Matamp GT120 vs Orange OR120 Doom Metal Amp Shootout
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Gear Used for this lesson:
Green Matamp GT120 - reverb.grsm.io/Matamp
Orange OR120 Overdrive - reverb.grsm.io/OrangeOR120
Two Notes Torpedo Captor - amzn.to/2JPvyYX
First Act Custom Shop Double Cut DC-6
C Standard Tuning: C - F - A# - D# - G - C
Strings: Ernie Ball Burly Slinky
String Gauge: 11 - 14 - 18p - 30 - 42 - 52
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Green Matamp GT120 MV: Input - 1st Gain Stage - Depth / FAC - Gain Knob - 2nd Gain Stage - Bax EQ - PI - MV - Presence
Orange OR120 Overdrive: Input - 1st Gain Stage - Bax EQ - Gain Knob - 2nd Gain Stage - Depth / FAC - PI - MV - Presence
In this video we’re going to be comparing a Green Matamp GT120 and an Orange OR120 Overdrive. Both amps have a factory Post Phase Invertor MV control with a gain knob to adjust the amount of preamp gain, both amps feature a Depth or FAC control-this control is a variable high pass filter, adjusting the knob changes the lower cutoff frequency of the filter impacting the amount of low frequency bass signal we are allowing to pass through it. Both amps feature a 2-band Baxandall EQ along with a presence control, and both amps put out 120w RMS clean power.
The circuit elements between the two are very similar with one notable difference, which is the location of the Depth / FAC knob and the EQ sections in the signal path.
With the Matamp we have our input, followed by our first gain stage, followed by our Depth / FAC control, followed by the gain control, which leads into the 2nd gain stage before hitting the two band Bax EQ and heading into the Phase invertor and the power amp section.
With the Orange, we have our input, followed by our first gain stage, followed by our two band Bax EQ, followed by the gain control, which leads into the 2nd gain stage before hitting the Depth / FAC control and heading into the Phase invertor and the power amp section.
So essentially the Depth / FAC and EQ sections are swapped between the two amps. In the Matamp we hit the Depth knob early and EQ late, in the Orange we hit the EQ early and the FAC knob late.
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Hi Steve, the Orange design gives the amp far more clarity in the mids. I have a reissue Orange Overdrive but the original Matamp vs the Original Orange overdrive (I’ve owed about 5 of those) is really interesting. I’ve done some amp comparison videos on my channel but they don’t do as well because so many people have switched to modelers these days and many of them have never played through a tube amp! Well done comparison!
Thanks so much for watching, Rick! I’ve always wanted to get my hands on an original white faced Matamp GT100 to do the comparison. Hopefully someday. Amp demos tend to do relatively well with the doom crowd, so if people like this comparison style vid I will definitely do more. 🐐🤘🏻
What makes this song great, doom mini series would be lovely
Roaring crunching barking mids are great but it's always easier to take away than it is to add tho right? May be times where the orange cant get as brutal and crushing of a deep fuzz tone as the matamp due to that, I dunno. Btw your channel is one of my favs @Rick Beato, especially loved the professional practice methods tips for guitar, but also literally any topic you cover is always a good time. Like that swervedriver live stream! Or all the various industry insight when it comes to the mainstream. Cheers and thanks for contributing to the greater good 💪👍👍👍
Great taste in music btw rick, your love of radiohead, deftones, allan holdsworth, swervedriver, all the music history knowledge, the non-corny "djent" that's out there, and apparently doom/sludge (as you're here) is proof of that
@@drlogic5854 I would be genuinely curious to hear Rick's (and anyone else's) analysis of Earth. Like maybe Bees Made Honey in the Lions Skull. They're one of my favorite bands but I genuinely don't know what makes their songs great. Every time I think about that question I'm like, "on paper, this should be terrible" but it's just the opposite and I have no idea why. I know I should just let it go and enjoy, which I mostly do, but there's a code there and I'd love to crack it. Same with Sunn0))).
And this is coming from someone who has been writing punk, hardcore and doom for 20 years.
The Matamp definitely has that dirty fuzz feel, the orange had more clarity, Either way, I say we’re all winners hearing these amazing amps.
Orange maintains more clarity for sure.
CahLassicSteve , I think the dream setup would be to have both. Green saturation on the left, Orange clarity on the right, and an ear doctor visit at the end of the week.
I’ve got a reissue or80 and I know it’s cliche, but it really does something magical when you push the master volume. This demo kept it at noon. It’s not just a mind trick with a loud volume. It really gets amazing even with an attenuator on the amp output.
Run a guitar cable splitter into both amps. Fuzz the Green and let the Orange run a little cleaner.. drive at like 10am... then you'll have heavy but note clarity. :)
@@caseycbenn this is why I need a good second amp. Sounds like FUN
Green like the weed of course
Green was fuzzier and bassier, Orange was clearer and middier. I feel great results would happen if you bi-amped them together!
And you would be very correct! Might make a cool demo...
@@DoesItDoom One fuzzed out mid scooped bass heavy amp with a sizzling presence and a slightly dulled upper mid-treble attack, blended with a slightly lower gain, raunchy crunchy roaring-mids-only rock n roll tone = big sludge, big crunch, dooms so hard...
@@DoesItDoom Its all the bite and clarity and thinned out bottom end from one amp, and all the crushing sludgy fuzz thunder from another. Works like a charm, all that gain but your pick attack still shines through, plus a tiny bit of added chord clarity....gotta get the gain on the biting/crunchy amp to be at that nice sweetspot where its the minimum gain it can be while still not sticking out like a sore thumb against the backdrop of maximum gain wall crumbling destruction, when it comes to that
I'll do this and get the big fat high gain scoopy sound out of fuzzes into a SS amp (but still girthy and snarling, just scooped enough to be that classic massive wall of sound thing, you know what i mean )- and then i get the raunchy crunch from my mesa with no gain pedals run into it, so my board is split into two signal flows (and this mesa i have is really like a marshall not a mesa)
Added benefit of pedals like the hm-2 and fz-2 sounding better with a non-pedal-affected amp running alongside em
Biamping Green with Orange would lead to the collapse of the observable Universe.
This reminds me of the cover of Cuda’s only EP Hellfire. It’s a fine stoner gem for those who don’t know it.
Both gnarly but in different ways. The Matamp made me want to pack a bong. The Orange made me want to drink whiskey straight from the bottle
I really wanna dip my feet in Matamp waters, but they're crazy expensive.
Not really more expensive than an Orange. Considering the Matamps are hand built in the UK and you get to decide how it's voiced if you buy new, I'd say they're very good value. Buying used is also an option of course, I got a 1224 in perfect condition (literally not a speck of dust to be found) with a flight case for 1300 (which is a typical price). Also keep in mind that if you buy new, shipping is included in the price.
I’m an Orange owner and supporter 100%, IMO for the riff and tuning being played I prefer the Matamp. It has a warmer, bigger tone for the vibe, but it seems to stay in that ballpark indefinitely, whereas the Orange is able to dip into that waist deep but also expand out of that arena too.
Very well put!
You just realised an old dream of mine thanks.
That orange has more clarity but i like the way the green purrs. It has a warm fuzz quality that's just fantastic.
Amazing video Steve! Really appreciate you taking the time to do this!
Thanks for watching bro!
The Matamp gives me the chills, nostalgic feels, and some rad thrills 😭😭❤️❤️
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Great video! Finally, an actual apples to apples comparison on these amps. Really appreciated your diagram for how the signal paths in the amps differ. It's incredible just how much different they sound. I love them both, probably going to have to get a couple of each. ;)
Did my best to be accurate with it.
When you turn the bass all the way up on the green amp that sounded wonderful
Thanks for this, Steve. I love your channel.
while i'm not in the market for a tube amp (my Sunn 300T made sure of that for me), i have owned and loved them and it's super-fun to hear and see a direct comparison like this.
Always thought those 300T’s were awesome. What’s it like?
@@DoesItDoom the 300T, paired with an 8x10, was more than enough to drown out everyone else in the band with clarity- and we ran with a Model T and a Musicman tube amp of some sort at the same time. many years ago! i miss the amp, it was super-fun to live and play with. i can only hope that the Fender reissues are as solid.
Man they both get down so well it's hard to choose I want them both thanks for sharing the gear
Thanks for watching man!
Great video Steve!!! I liked both amps, they have their differences, but both sounded really cool. Thanks for all your hard work brother!!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Thanks, Chris!
Clearly, you must have both simultaneously for maximum results. The mid-range cut and top-end clarity from the Orange combined with the enormous low end and wooly saturation of the Matamp are a match made in tone heaven. For Fog Giant, I get pretty close with my Belov Matamp GTO 200w clone set for maximum depth and girth added to either my Orange AD140 or OR50 set heavily towards mids and highs and lower gain.
Very nice! They do sound awesome in a bi-amped setup for the reasons you mention.
Quality content - once again! Keep up good work man!
Thanks so much!
Damn they both sound really good to me. Luv your demos!! Thanks
Thanks for watching man!
The Matamp wins imo, I may be biased cuz it will always be my dream amp, but I just prefer it over the orange
Nice. Thanks for watching!
YES YES YES YES YES FINALLY WOOHOO !!!! I don't why I'm so excited
Finally is right. Not sure why I put this one off for so long.
I've wanted to see thos for a loooooong time. Thanks!
Sorry it took me so long to get around to it! Thanks for watching.
Radio Marko thanks so much for watching!
I think when demoing a solo instrument your ear naturally prefers the one that is fuller or more balanced across the whole frequency range(the green?). However that full range tone is often lost or muddies up the mix, when competing with other instruments. I would want to hear how they compare in the mix as well before I decided. Cool amps!
I think you have a very fair point that is indeed true based on how I see people react to much of the demo work done here on the channel.
Was looking for another tube head the Green Matamp has the lows Steve it will be a must have soon on my list great video bro keep them coming
If nothing else, the Matamp has the quality of being made of unobtanium and collectable as hell.
Try www.matamp.co.uk
We need to get a Green vs Orange vs Model T shootout!!!!
Yes we do!
That matamp sounds amazing with all that fuzzy goodness
It’s pretty unique.
For that Pike sound def the Orange, but I also love the fuzz from the Green⚔️
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Thanks dude! I've been waiting for this EXACT comparison! The debate has been strong for years...and I still like both equally. :( Also, one closer to 666 thumbs up now.
Glad you liked it! Was long overdue for sure.
Dang, for being such a similar circuit, they do sound wildly different! I liked the Matamp because it sounded fuller and maybe like it had a bit more gain, but I also liked the Orange because it sounded clearer and more articulate. I guess the answer is to just run them in stereo or dual mono!
Crazy right? They sound awesome running in stereo.
Great demo video and comparison. They sound similar but each amp has their differences as well. The green is darker sounding and has a fat fuzzy low end where the orange is a bit brighter and has more treble. Can’t go wrong with either
Both great for sure! Thanks for watching.
Green is my dream amp. Pike's Green Matamp tone is my all time favorite tone.
Both amps sound great! Never played a Green , but i have a Or-120m from 77', this amp sounds so awesome, Keep it up, Great Comparsion!
Thanks!
I’ve waited a long time for this
Hope it delivered!
Awesome video! That Green sounds nasty! Love it!
Thanks man! 💚💚
Nice lesson! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Both are great, but I love that Green! You've given me a new goal, Steve! ;)
Great Video, makes me appreciate my OR even more. The Green sound awesome though. If you ever have the possibility to A/B vintage 70' OR vs. Vintage MatAmp I would love that.
I would love that as well! Thanks for watching.
Both are awesome! It is tough to choose.
For sure.
I wonder what they would sound like double tracked with one of each.
I prefered the Green, but I'm also a fan of Orange. I would love to have either one. Thanks for this vid!
🧡💚 Thanks for watching!
10,000 years is the GOD riff, i dont think i ever heard high gain amp test video without it 100%
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Hi Steve,
great comparison, thanks a lot!
I got a Laney la30bl and i am quite happy with it. But somehow i feel the itch for a gt120. I know you got an old Supergroup. How does it compare to the Matamp? Is it worth having both? (I know... stupid question, it always is...)
Cheers Andi
I have an orange or15 hooked up to my custom zilla virtual cab 2x vintage 30’s and I thought 💭 that sounds fuzzy until I heard that green baby go. It’s one dirty beast 👏
I love that Matamp...like it just sounds so gnarly
Ive been using a Peavey Classic 20 MH thru a 12inch Sub, and it sounds glorious! It takes pedals really well, and gets LOUD (or loud enough to get the cops called)...pairs really well with a Rangemaster and some P90s
Awesome!
Great vid! I’m not versed in either of these amps and have never played through one. I liked the Mata better as it was done. However we get all our gain from pedals. Which one do you think is the better pedal platform?
Neither amp is very clean as you can hear but as a general platform I think the orange fairs a little better. With either I tend to run pedals into the Low input with the preamp gain dialed back and the bass boost set around setting 4.
Great demo! Both amps are iconic. The orange of the amp has brighter mids. What cabinet was used for the demo? And which cabinets, in your opinion, reveal the potential of green amp more?
A bit more sludgey sound from the Matamp but both sound incredible so I recon play both together, keep up the great work 👍👍
👍🏻👍🏻thanks for watching
Which amp had the better tone? Drop your thoughts down below in the comments!
Green...hands down.
I like both. I like the upper midrange of the orange. I like the fuzz of the green. If I could afford both, I'd mix them. If I could afford only one, I'd add an eq and a couple pedals.
orange, and it would be cool to compare green with the original 70's or120
Both amazing amps! I have a tech question about your videos. It says that you are using the Captor. I just picked one up and I was curious about if you have ever had any issues running these high wattage amps into it. I have read about the Matamp GT120 spiking higher than 120 watts when it is hit with a fuzz pedal or other boost, and I would think that would fry the Captor. Also, do you use the same impulse responses for the videos you use the Captor with or do you mix it up?
You’ll notice that I rarely run the MV above much above 1/2 way, that is to keep the power output below the 100W rating of the captor. If I ran the OR or GT at full on the MV, I assume it would fry the captor and potentially an output transformer in the process. Typically I use the onboard cabsim on the captor, but you can get great results using their Wall of Sound software, it just takes more time and I like having the consistency of using the same cab sim all the time. I will probably upgrade to the Captor X once it hits the used markets.
Thanks for the reply! I figured that was the case. My main amp is an early 70s Ampeg V4, and I have to be careful about the wattage of the speakers I’m running it into. I’ve used the Torpedo Cab before and have a bunch of IRs that I dig, but I always love the tones you get so I thought I would ask. Thanks again!
I think the Green Amp sounds a bit brighter? They both sound awesome. You're lucky you have both of them and don't have to choose one or the other. :)
Both sound great. Glad to have them for sure.
Just sold my Orange TH30 and got myself a Matamp GT-120 Custom Shop from 2006 in nearly mint condition..still love the Orange though! Would love to own both one day.
Badass!
The Green has a much more distorted tone. Sounds like a square-wave breakup.
Many great amps are one trick ponies, imho.
Love both dearly, the orange is to my taste. Thank you for sharing :)
Great amps!
Loved the drive on the matamp, I'm thinking the orange may take pedals slightly better though?
mikowl I think so.
This is going to sound wild since I know neither used either amp but the Matamp sounds kinda like Kyuss tone and the Orange sounds like QOTSA tone. both very cool and i love how the amps esp. the matamp starts to fart out almost like a fuzz pedal when cranked.
is the green both a bass and guitar amp? ive seen it used with both instruments. sorry if that's a noobish question, im still getting in to amps
Typically people go with the higher wattage versions when wanting to use it for bass (GT150, GT200, etc.)
both blended together!!
Yes!
I come back to this video almost every year to see what i think about it.
Funnily I now favor the Orange's more clear and crunchy tone as compared to 2 years ago when I couldnt get enough of the Matamp. I still love the Matamp and would kill to own one, but the clarity and note definition of the OR120 is great.
That green works amazing for this tune, i prefer the orange by a hair since i prefer clarity, but neither are weak by any means
👍🏻thanks for watching!
Great Job Steve! They both have some tonal similarities, but the Green has this round low end I like. The Orange definitely puts out more treble tones and retains a bit more clarity than the Green does. I think the EQ placement in the amp makes quite the difference. With the Orange, you're EQing before you drive it. Whereas the Green is being driven and then EQ'd. The FAC controller in the chain is also an interesting variable. Personally, I like that big blown out sound the Green puts out. The Orange is still great, but as I love the Dopesmoker tone - Green wins in my book. Cheers!
Very much in agreement with your thoughts here.
Been a while since ive popped in to the channel as ive been busy loving my own gear (and trying to kick my youtube addiction LOL)
awesome vid. Its great to have a guy doin' it right, instead of these unscientific bozo's recording with their cellphone from a vid that was uploaded in 2012 lol
I prefer the sound of the matamp. Much more body to the sound, and i prefer the way the gain behaves. I know the orange has that midrange crunch thing going on, but, if you absolutely needed that for a section of a song, i bet if you hit the matamp with a Klon or Tubescreamer type pedal you could easily get it sounding similar to the orange, with a cut low end and thus pronouncing the mids in turn (as its all relative when it comes to EQ) But damn thats an expensive preference lol. Luckily, i get a similar sound out of my SS 120w crate 2x12 combo amp ahah, hey no hate, Kurt Ballou of Converge (love that dude) just put out a (300$ o.O ...pass) signature pedal that is literally just a clone of a crate's preamp circuit in a pedal format, i blame the shitty out of tune Enter Sandman and Nirvana riffs played through their cheaper amps, all throughout the 90s and 2000s, for their tonal reputation lol (and another part of their bad reputation - their crap build quality - admittedly, even the case with their high end stuff - all plastic junk that falls apart, knobs and jacks soldered direct to the circuit board which means one day the amp will simply cease to function until you go and reflow those solder joints, or god forbid the board cracks lol. But, to me, thats all a GOOD thing, if you can find a working one, cause that means the - good - crate stuff is also cheap af now by association, and if yours breaks after only a year of use, well, at least it was only 100$ and you can get another lol)
Thanks so much. I do my best to make the comparison meaningful.
@@DoesItDoom Righteous af 👍
I wish to see a mini matamp green like the orange ones because I can't afford a green like the one the video, I love this demo, thanks
Which would win volume wise. Matamp gt200 or Ampeg svt 300????????
Great video...what speakers are you running this through?Thanks...
Both amps are being recorded through a Two Notes Torpedo Captor reactive load box.
I really love the looks of the Green amp. It’s awesome.
Both sound brutal, but the orange more articulate. Something that a pedal or two could fix.
I need to buy a green amp.
I first came across Green Matamps watching Liverpool's amazing Conan live and feeling my teeth loosen. Watching this video I now understand why. I agree, Green all the way.
thanks for this! what’s your favorite reasonably priced practice amp for at home? say under $800?
Checkout the Orange OR15, EHX MIG50, Laney AOR series heads and combos. $800 and you should be able to put together a cool little head and cab rig.
@@DoesItDoom would all those work alright for lowish volume? I just am not able to crank it very often :( , the OR15 looks awesome. any thoughts on the Super Crush 100?
@@danielcarter3928 I would definitely get one of the amps I mentioned over any of the orange crush / super crush stuff. I don’t really see not being able to crank them as an issue personally.
@@DoesItDoom thank you! any cab suggestions?
Both are fantastic really
Agreed.
I have an OR120(M) - you can pretty much get the OR sounding the same as the GT provided you eq the amp properly and you fiddle with your guitar pickups and tone dials - in fact, there are parts where he's playing the GT and mixing the eqs and it sounds identical to the OR to me
Hey are uk matamp reliable now? I live in the uk but have only heard bad (usually biased with the whole us vs uk division)
Mine has had no reliably issues and I’ve had it since 2017 or so.
Love your channel bro! Not nearly enough Doom Metal in the world!
Really appreciate it man. Thanks for watching.
This might be a dumb question..... but can the matamp still do classic rock stuff and clean pedal platform?
The GT120MV actually isn’t a very clean amp at all. It can do classic rock for sure.
The Matamp has a fuzzy scooped and low end heavy almost Dopethrone type sound which I prefer
Is Green (electric) amp USA still a thing or is it only the Matamps now?
Stay away from Electric Scamp! I’m not sure if they still try to run their fraudulent operation or not.
Does It Doom? Whoa! It’s not legit? I don’t think they do, I emailed and called but got no response.
Different but both sound good. I think I like the sound of the Orange a slightly more due to its enhenced clarity.
Genuine question for a newbie to Matamp, do these amps even do clean? Or are they just doom machines? I've read Peter Green used to play these amps, his tone was awesome, but I don't remember it being that out of control.
Peter’s Series 2000 was likely a cleaner amp than this GT120MV. I wouldn’t say this particular amp does cleans well at all tbh. Most of Peter’s classic FM tone is Fender stuff. To me his classic live tone is the ‘68 Fender Dual Showman Reverb which is basically endless clean headroom.
@@DoesItDoom thanks! That’s quite the informative response. My other question is, and sorry if this is a really dumb one, how loud is that Matamp in the room you were playing in? Is that thing peeling the paint off the wall or is it manageable? Im aware that the post phase inverter master volumes sometimes don’t do much. I have one on my amp, the type 3 or whatever it is, and it’s super sensitive up to “9:00” on the dial, and then it’s basically at full blast. I saw you had yours at “12:00,” which is why I ask.
Great video by the way. Not gonna lie, when you started talking at the beginning, I was thinking, “oh shit. This guy is going to talk instead of demo the amp.” But the information you covered was great. I only know a little bit about amp design, but I love how you broke down and explained the stages and the order of those stages within each of the amps. Lastly I’ll add that I liked the Matamp over the Orange. It sounded more “unique” to me. I felt like the orange sounded like a clean amp running a dirt pedal, where the Matamp sounded like the tone that pedal enthusiasts can only dream of. Relative to other amps, I’d say it’s still a close call between them. Great job again and thanks for the response.
I'd be quite curious to have a "does it doom" on a hayden amp, which a matamp engineer worked on
I was considering the GT120 for a long time, but Opted to go with an OR80 because it was available locally. I am not disappointed in my decision, especially since the 90's reissue Orange Overdrives are all built by Matamp! I love how doomy the Green gets, but the OR80/120 is the most colorful, articulate, and beautiful amplifier I have ever owned. I wouldn't mind having both though! The Orange dooms super hard too people. It takes pedals like a champion as well.
Great amps for sure. I’d say the orange is definitely more versatile.
@@DoesItDoom The matamp has that super Square wave fuzz thing going on though. I honestly don't think I have heard its likeness replicated by another amp.
John Yentes yep, that’s exactly the case! I’ve described it the same way in the past. The orange covers a wider spectrum of tones, but it doesn’t go where the Matamp goes.
Green is definitely sludgier! Love it
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I like more the Orange the mids are a bit clear and is not that fuzzy. I mean I like fuzz but the matamp it was just a bit too much. But both are killer amps, even for playing else than metal
More than anything I'm glad it's in a colour that isn't black or tweed.
It says C# tuning in the description, but you've got the notes for C standard listed
Typo. C standard. Fixed thanks.
@@DoesItDoom 👍
any opinions on the reissued gt120 (the whitefaced one)?
The guys at Matamp tell me it sounds basically the same as the MV version, except it won’t breakup until it’s pretty loud obviously. That’s all I’ve got.
@@DoesItDoom Thank you very much! I couldnt find any info haha
Muza Slucha no problem brother.
Dang. This is just Part 1, right? 6 minutes and you only scratched the surface. For the next videos of this shootout I suggest you cut to each amp after a setting has been changed. All the knob turning took away from the intended comparison/shoot out because that’s too much variation in tone to specifically remember the contrast between the Green and the Orange. I also suggest that you compare the power amps from low volume to high volume by using the return inputs with a clean preamp so that we can hear how that contributes to the overall tone of each amp. I love how this setup sounded. I’m looking forward to the future definitive 45 minute shootout (ha ha!) It’s gonna take A LOT of editing, but it would be a great archival resource.
Maybe!
Does It Doom? , I hope so, this was so good, I was greedy for much more.
Homme Dammn unfortunately a very long form video like that would not go over very well here on TH-cam. But it would still be cool.
@@DoesItDoom Doom and sludge don't need to bow to an algorithm. (But we don't need you dying from editing either.)
To my ears, the Green is a bit brighter and tighter in the low end, but the Orange was fatter and more mids. Imagine blending them together for maximum doom.
They do blend quite well in a bi-amp setup!
As an fan of Orange amps...
... i really need that GT120. I wasnt expecting to love more than the Orange but when the gain maxxed out and it sounded like a Big Muff on steroids i knew i needed one
The answer is yes. A two amp setup with one of each is the way to go.
Definitely.
Where can I buy that green amp? Really want one...
www.matamp.co.uk
@@DoesItDoom oh snap I didn't see they had a website. Thanks!
We need to get you an ab selector
That’s really not the issue. I have one. Gotta run them out of the same cab (or in this case load box) for a true comparison. I was moving the cable so people could more easily tell which amp was in use.
I have a 1977 Orange Overdrive and love it. To my ears, the Orange has a more colourful sound, more “crunch” and more of a classic rock feel. I would love to own a Green Matamp though if I could ever afford it. It has a mean, more “metal” sound and although the drive sounds a bit more “fuzzbox” to me and less smooth than the Orange, I bet that when it’s turned up loud it absolutely rips. Either one beats the pants off something like Marshall for me any day.
All very true imo!
I'm a year late in this showing up in my feed but --WOW!-- I'm surprised how much I prefer the Green.
The video I was waiting for. Hi five man!
Sorry it took me so long. Glad you dig it!
I like the Green better. It's smoother and less boxy than the Orange. Both could probably be tightened up with a boost pedal, but maybe that's a wasted thought here.
Great video man !!! Both of those amps are amazing I think you should try playing them at the same time and blend them according also just wanted to say long live orange amps !!!
Avery Tyler they sound great like that.
Does It Doom? I bet they do I would love to have a green matamp I would use a splitter and blend it with my orange cr120
Avery Tyler nice!
Were you to be looking for doomy sludge, go with the Matamp. The Orange will get you there but I think you can also squeak other sounds out of the Orange. It's all down to preference. Who doesn't dig the tolex, though? Both are awesome in appearance.
Well, shit...I guess I gotta buy a green amp now. That sounds amazing.
They both look so pretty ☺️
Right?
Both sound exactly like a 10w Crate practice amp with a few holes poked in the speaker cone.
Or you’re just deaf
@@joshuatyson1907 SERIOUSLY? In 2024?
Deaf-shaming?
@@johnroberts7018 Hardy hardy harr. 😐
Holy hell to get my hands on a green let a lone even see one
The Orange having pre-gain EQ and a loop makes it higher on my “would totally use” list.
I don’t use tubes anymore, though. Just not my vibe.
I’m about fuzzy fizzly, processed, direct to recording or a powered speaker, with some signal bypassing the analog speaker simulation.
My rack is like a ball of breeding snakes.
Does the FAC control have any interest ?
Not sure what you mean.
@@DoesItDoom The FAC button on the Orange Head, it's remove the low. Does this have any interest ? Who wanna remove low ends and make a sound thin ?
Orange wins for me, seems to have a bit more range than the Green. The Green gets fuzzed out too quick where the orange can still get to that territory if pushed but has a bit more versatility
🧡 so interesting to hear all the different perspectives.