Do you know how crazy it is to talk to someone who saw Biggie & PAC’s come up and also experienced the whole vibe with them from the jump! Big up Ed Lover. Love from London, UK 🇬🇧
i'm a londoner. i saw tupac in the new york club with them brooklyn ones the night it all went left. biggie had the best flow. tupac the goat of all goats.
Same here. Im from Howard Beach Queens. In the 80's-90's we weren't only known as the most Cosa Nosa members living on the same neighborhood at one time in the America it was known for killing non whites who even tried to come into the neighborhood so for Me a huge Hip Hop head I had to order every single and album special until the whole neighborhood got into it also into around 95 the dudes who worked in the store spent the next 25 years thanking me for putting them onto all the music too. Anyway recording Yo at least once a week then constantly rebumpin it was the Thing to, as well as Video music box!
True bro, Man ed lover is a PAC hater, look at the interviews with PAC and him and ed lover and biggie, he always makes PAC sound like he was just making things up
Because Puffy and the Crips didn't make Pac jump out the window and attack Orlando. He did that on his own. Now if Puffy was in attendance and Puff got stomped out by Pac n crew - you might have a case but Pac dug his own grave n crashed out all on his own Freeing Puff from any wrong doing
He was becoming something I’ve never seem in hip hop. Him and Biggie both. So wondering if a little rivalry or if Pac was mad Biggie wouldn’t choose sides. Pac did say loyalty was everything.
Im from Cali. Graduated HS in 95. I never even went to NY until I was in my 30's mainly because of the East vs West "Beef" but oddly enough when I finally went to Brooklyn it felt just like back home. 2 of the greatest artist of all time RIP. We owe it to ourselves to put together what "They" tore apart. The powers that be took that opportunity to divide a nation of young black ppl who were unifying through music. Literally 20 yrs later, still talked about like it was yesterday. ✌🏾❤️🩹 #Time2Heal
What do you mean by they ? White people ? Jews ? Who ? Don't be scary now put some bass in your voice and say it. Black people have been robbing and murdering each other long before rap. It's time yall stop blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your own actions. That's what a real man does. A lot of yall are grown but still sit around crying like babies blaming all your problems on the white man. Its pathetic and yall should be embarrassed. " they say it's the white man I should fear. But it's my OWN kind that's doing all the KILLING here " Tupac - Only God Can Judge Me
Well, let’s put it like this. After Pac got shot, Bad Boy/Live Squad were hanging and/or attending events from the one who called the shots on Pac. Not to mention how he was connected to other NY rappers at the moment. Now, Biggie & Puffy did their part for the problem to escalate like it did. And that was just Death Row & Bad Boy beefing, now other NY MC’s did throw some slick lines on their records directed at Pac and not Death Row, so it was something going on that most of people forget to mention when this topic comes out. Now, remember that Suge’s homie got killer in that JD Party and he blamed Puffy for it.
Ed bodied this interview!!! Real NY OG’s dropping science always gets my utmost attention!!! Peace and blessings Math to you and your team!!! Good look on the RFK Jr joint as well!!! Another great piece!!! BK do or die!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Ed lover wrong. Snoop was definitely dissing big at one point and biggie called the radio station thinking Pac was at snoop video shoot which led to the video trailer getting shot up. Biggie played his part and so did snoop. And I know stretch was they friend but he did some sheisty shit.
@@chemistryrussell and all these old school niggas do that when it comes to this. East Coast is never did nothing and is innocent saints n Pac them in the wrong. Same bullshit narrative.
Absolutely everybody did at that time in hip hop snoop dogg was jealous of pac and biggie period he trying to change the narrative on everything remember he was the hottest rapper at one point in the game although pac already was a superstar but when he did me against the world and biggie did ready to die they both changed hip hop especially pac forever when pac went to deathrow records he basically took snoop shine everybody was sneak dissing
That was on Angie Martinez show, I remember bein a kid listening to this, to be clear BIG did say go see them but Angie clarified "musically" and BIG was like yea musically no violence blah blah blah...take that info as you will
ED LOVER PLAYED UNBELIEVEABLE EVERY SINGLE MORNIN’ ON THE RADIO AT THE EXACT TIME. WHEN MY ALARM CLOCK WENT OFF, BIG WAS PLAYIN. EVERY FUCKIN MORNIN. THAT WAS MY ALARM CLOCK. RIP TO THE GREATEST. DAS BIG👑🗽
@@3rdGenerationCancer it ain’t nigga i Been following all this Pac shit for YEARS. An the real story from the people ACTUALLY THERE. Pac never accused big. And big didn’t walk out with the gun that night he got it a few days later.
They’re still bitter about Pac and hit em up, I’ve been saying that for years and Sean bigga showed NYC’s weirdo “gangsters” true feelings about pac when he got in his feelings 😂🤣
@@jamallewilson6100 Y'all don't know what biased actually is Ed knew both sides and spoke favorably about both. You dudes just can't take hearing any criticism of the rapper u idolize . Ed knew Pac and is speaking from an informed pov... Y'all stans who weren't even there but taking sides are biased
He’s not. NY dudes always try to make BiG seem like he was such an Angel. He got Snoop Dogg trailer shot up in NY and he was mad disrespectful to Tupac on Sway show right before he was killed himself
I was in my 20s when they both got murdered I always and still am a big fan of both BIG and Pac. But I always said Big died because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. and in both shootings, I feel Pac knew who was responsible for his shooting he just didn't say anything. And when Pac got killed in Vegas he messed with the wrong people when they jumped Orlando Anderson. How the police did not put 2 and 2 together is beyond me. And, just because the police were not doing their job BiG got killed. It was crazy the day BIG died I was driving to work had to pull my car over and lost it I didn't listen to hip hop for 2 years because of that mess. RIP to both Big and Pac.
Your last few sentences really hit it on the head for me. I was only in the third grade when they both died and I remember when "Missing You" was all over the charts after BIG's murder. That whole period just seemed so dark and eerie and it turned ME off of hip-hop for a while myself, but I remember it being damn near impossible to escape. (being a kid who obviously only has so much say over the radio also didn't help). Everywhere you turned the media was talking about these two tragedies or it was their music on repeat. Every fucking car that drove by, every business you walked into, every cookout: BIG or Pac. I remember subsequent records from other artists got a little darker too around that time. Shit was lowkey eerie for a minute. From the point of view of a child, hip-hop went from being this fun funky music to some shit that the actual stars themselves were dying over. It took almost until I was high school for me to really come back around to hip-hop voluntarily.
Correction: JUICE came out in 1992 and was filmed in Harlem in 1991. PAC was a star when BIG meet him and this has been confirmed by multiple sources close to BIG including Junior Mafia! Ed Lover my guy but he got that wrong..
Ny nighas was dissing the west coast and the south since day one. Y’all nighas didn’t give the other coast credit. New York has this mentality like they’re kings and they run shit we don’t play that down south and the west coast don’t play that either. That’s why New Yorkers get beat up whenever they leave New York and be disrespectful. Tim Dawg and all them.
Comment section need to chill. 4real let them dudes rest in peace it’s over and done let’s not make the same mistakes and sadly these younger artists made this tradition of rap beef worse
No I’m not going to let them rest in peace Biggie was on some real fuckery acting like he wanted no part of it meanwhile he was dropping subliminals left and right and got Dogg pounds trailer shot up piggie
@antionejohnson-cd5sj, absolutely you are entitled to your own opinion, but it's not contributing to anything positive. We should cherish their memories more than that stupid beef. They were young! And also, we have never heard anyone stepping to the late Afeni Shakur or Ms. Voletta Wallace to express their opinion so I think we should have more respect. Both of those mothers embraced each other live on television with love. Let Tupac and Biggie rest in peace. Its been 26 to 27 years. My opinion on that brotha.
Juice came out Jan 1992 Pac was only 20. We all forget how young they were. But all because Suge came at Puffy does not mean he came at a whole coast. All rap beefs come to an end this beef never got a chance to end. Rip Pac Rip Big!
@@Jason-lv4uuBruh Ice Cube/Tupac were riding on the East. Hell even Snoop was banging on them before he got scared. The East took shots at the West Coast rappers for years so that tension was always there media aside.
Facts and it was released literally right after PAC had just got sent to Prison & had the #1 Album at the Time on the charts (Me Against The World) , yet nobody sees that. Smh
I can’t believe this ninja got old. I grew up to this man along with dr Dre, lisa. Hot 97 mornings was legendary. Ay yo who remember the morning freestyles - or the movies whos da man? So many memories- I even remember when ed lover came out to south Huntington Long Island ny before banks moved out there. He came out to a basketball game that turn into a big brawl between south Huntington and Huntington station. Yo forever loved🫶🏾!!!
Ppl saying snoop was neutral but now that the biggie diss song snoop did with Pac, nobody coming back to say oh that’s y Pac felt a way about snoop switching his tone with the “oh biggie my homeboy” interview.
He did. He blamed biggie for turning his back on him. They didn’t even mentioned Pac got locked up for the guns that were left in his room. Pac said they were junior mafias guns and he took that case.
I feel u ed when u say big ain't had nothing to do with it but why he take credit for it then on long kiss goodnight bragging boy having pac killed him n puff then go to l.a. and rap that live on the radio ....ultimate disrespect... so why say he ain't play a role?? Puff had a million dollar hit on him n suge u think biggie ain't know?
@@tipanu6554 right they chose to turn a blind eye to a lot of shit Big did. It was easy to blame Pac because he was so outspoken and angry about being betrayed.
@@jamalj6973 On the contrary it's easy to take Pacs side and run with it because Big wouldn't acknowledge the drama publicly. So when y'all point to stuff like Long kiss goodnight y'all really reaching based off some shit Pac said amping up the beef. That's was wrong for Pac not only to publicly smear Big but to polarize the fans who didn't know any better
@@hiphoprbloverjon9180 That don`t mean Bad Boy had anything to do with Pac`s death. Also Pac`s death look like a inside job to me. Baby Lane who Pac assualted at the MGM Gram and was apart of the rival gang to Suges Blood gang. He tried to help Suge beat his court case in which Suge was being charged with assaulting him. And he also sued Pac estate but never sued Suge even though both of them assaulted him. And Suge lied about getting shot when he was in the car with Pac , his cut came from glass or debris. If that don`t look like a inside job as far as Pac`s death then idk what to tell you.
All ain't heard the Sway n Pac interview... he told u what happened n how he felt, but y'all wanna listen to the 3rd party instead of the man who actually lived it smh... 😂
Why would the big homie lie on the Lil homie.... pac was telling the truth... jealousy hate and ask that bs is real.... big was screaming thug life big was being allowed to rap at pac shows big was a dam character smh its sad when people can't see the real. Tbh it's disrespectful to compare them in any way pac is a whole nother level. Historic background but hey it is what it is
That’s funny because when you go over to Bomb 1st or Art of Dialogue it’s a whole bunch of 3rd party talk yet the Tupac apologists never complain about that.
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone actually telling the truth!!!! Pac and Jimmy was arguing before he went to meet up with Lil Shawn, Pac crew even asked Pac who are arguing with? Pac said Jimmy Hecnhman. Pac crew told Pac that's not someone you play with, we better strap up. Which is why Pac had his gun on him going to the studio that night.They went to quad and Jimmy goons were waiting on him. Which is exactly what Clark Kent meant, when he said Pac knew Biggie had nothing to do with it, and that Pac lied! Now you will have Pac fans scream about how Pac never said Big set him up, but that he was mad that Big didn't tell him where it came from? Why the hell does Big have to tell you where it came from when you already knew!!! When Big tried to tell Pac the first time to watch out for the cats he was running with because they from his borough of Brooklyn and everyone knows how they get down. Hell even Mike Tyson told him the same shit. We all know Pac was a hot head and hard headed and he refused to listen. Know one never talks about how Pac went back and told Jimmy Henchman and Jack that Big warned him about hanging with them. What happens a few weeks later? Big gets robbed by Jimmy goons, so in reality Pac got Big lined up, when Big was doing what any real friend would do. Then after Pac gets shot, he wants to act like Big ain't warn him. Then he wants to blame Big for how shit went down, come on man stop it. If you my man and from outta and town and you don't know how cats move in the city that you hanging with and I give you a heads up on some shit and you don't wanna listen to what I'm telling you, and some shit ends up popping of! Then that's on you!
@@youngbloodpriest1644 Big couldn't control when Puff chose to release his tracks, that's on Puff. Plus who shot ya was aimed at LL Cool J, not Pac. But let me ask you this..... Why Pac ain't go at LL Cool J the way he went at Big? LL Cool J released I Shot Ya the same exact year that who shot ya was released. 1995!!!
As a loyal Tupac fan, I would say that he pushed his beef with Biggie too far and all of his issues resulted in multiple preventable strained friendships and even deaths. Like maybe Kadafi would still be here, his friendship with Stretch, hell, even Snoop would of been intact. Also, once he attacked Orlando Anderson, the Crips was going to be on him in his own “territory.” It was only a matter of time. PAC should have been protected from getting involved in the Las Vegas incident because he was the biggest star in the company.
NAHHH BIG WAS THROWING ROCKS AND HIDING HIS HANDS ALL HIS SNEAK DISSING….Snoop was Sneak dissing then showing Fake Love…BIGGIE GO TO CALI AND SPIT THAT FREESTYLE ON THE Radio BIG brought his death on himself And as far as the Crip They was payed to get Tupac but Puffy But ppl these days Want to Keep big name Clean And Really Blame everything onTupac and that. The sad Part notice they Never bring up That Mill puff put on Tupac and that’s because they want to keep Puff And Big name Clear
He didn’t “pushed” the beef there was a lot of shit going on between the media and a lot of these other east coast rappers that was speaking this shit that ain’t had nothing to do with them. And it’s like in their minds Pac is the one that created all of this shit, and it’s not true. Ni99as just can’t be real enough to say that they don’t like Pac, but instead they’ll say he started a “narrative” of this of shit which is once again not true. It’s just crazy how mofos just make it seem like Pac was responsible for this east coast vs west coast and Biggie and Puff didn’t contribute to any of it.
@@bossplayermfs5972 he did push it to be fair but it went too far and at some point it wasn't really about no beef it was just about selling records so that the greedy record labels get all they can get. They played a dangerous game tho which made it easier for whoever wanted to do away with them and ride off into the night without a trace.
I'm loving this interview with Ed Lover. He has so much knowledge of the Hip Hop community is crazy. He is probably the best guest on here. I always listened to Ed and Dre on the radio when I was in NYC. This is taking me back to all of the good rap I grew up on. Way better than this bullshit they play now.
sometimes i cant even think about how the game would b like if pac & big was still here... like can yall even imagine that??? just makes u wanna cry at times
I remember when it was announced that pac died in a concert on the east coast the crowd was cheering. It was ED Lover who grabbed the mic and demanded respect for his fallen friend.
Pac told us everything we need to know ..plus he said some info about Stretch ..on the way to Quad ..Stretch ask to hold Pac’s heat …and he never like holding a heat thats why ..HOLLA AT ME IS FOR STRETCH ..Cant listen to these NY dudes
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate i can tell media miss inform your p*nk *ss just like them them Ny cats cause Pac never accuse biggie of setting him up ..he never did but ya ignorant still sayin he did smh
i remember living in the south when this beef kicked off...southern cats was screaming west side just because they hated new york...meanwhile nobody from new york was studying the south or even talking about them.
Thank You! Nobody was dissing "the south" The biggest acts were like the 69 boys and whoop there it is booty shaking music like that. Even ppl in the south knows that shit was fun but the lyrics were wack abc123. That was the most we knew about Atlanta til OutKast and theres a big difference most ppl from NY agree Kast was dope. Same with the west coast. You can't convince NYers that Eazy E was a good rapper 😂 I don't care what records he was a part of. But mostly everybody from NY respects Ice Cube - cause cube had actual talent. We have a right not to like somebody raps, it doesn't mean we're hating or bias against an entire region. NY never hated on the south or the west - we were too busy focused on us to hate others and so they called us arrogant
Math really out here puttin the culture on his back! I'm proud of this nigga like I know him! Crown Heights stand all the way tf up! 11225!! Thank y'all for what y'all doin!
Ed is wrong saying Snoop wasnt in it like that and was neautral. He is on a bunch of tracks dissing Big and shih, he played both sides and is even now to this day trying to rewrite history. Thats why he was ishing on himself on the jet when Pac ignored him bc Pac heard him saying he likes everyone at Bad Boy and wants to make music with them. Thats when Suge, Tupac and the rest of Death Row fully realized Snoop is a snake not a dog. Doggystyle is a masterpiece and I liked alot of both R 'n' G (Rythym 'n' Gangsta) and Blue Carpet Treatment but every other album is trash except the occasional ok track. He shreds on some features tho I'll give him that. I wonder if Master P is happy he bought him from Tha Row bc imho his run on No Limit was 99% trash the other 1% was that track with C-Murda, that instrumental is insane!Murda slayed Snoop on it tho
99% trash wtf. Bro I know you lyin west coast bad boyz was raw asf. Fam all of no limit shit was selling. They music was for drug dealers that’s why they shit was sellin every rip and they put out albums every other month is you serious.
The issue with Pac and Biggie is that Pac wasn't in a position to get payback on the guys he knew had him shot (Henchman), so Pac decided to attack the little guy (Biggie). It's like when you got beef with the biggest bully on the block... Instead of fighting the bully, you beat up the nerd standing next to him.
Going back to Cali was low-key a diss record also who shot ya? Lol bad timing ,Big was Hella subbing. I’m from LA so I pretty much know a lot about the situation and it honestly started over a female that suge took from puff but they used to all be cool partying together and sharing women etc
Anything can be taken as an insult if you're already mad. Big gave Cali nothing but Love on that song imo but it was already up and the result was a man got killed over PERCEIVED slights smh🤦🏿♂️ never raised a hand or gun to anyone never outward disrespect... Just accusations and innuendos... Damn
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate if all that was true, why would he still drop that disrespectful song who shot ya? You know dam well if that was you, you would’ve thought it was about you too even if it wasn’t about pac , hella bad timing bro really bad timing and if puffy‘s bodyguard is lying why doesn’t he ever say anything about it? It’s been so many years he even talks about how puffy got biggie, murdered, do your research bro it’s all out there. But to each its own I’m not going to waste my time responding anymore.
As a LA dude, Biggie's death was the saddest moment in the history of the culture. Mind you, I was at the Fresh Fest in 86 when LB Insanes tore up the venue; the beef between Cube and NWA; death of JMJ; Big Pun; and Tupac. As Jeru said, Big was Hip Hop.
@@Kenny-Alpha Not saying that at all. I'm sure there were people talking shit. There's some ignant people out here! Dj Quik talked shit after. But for true lovers of Hip Hop, this was the loss of all losses.
I'm nine months late, but I have to correct Ed Lover here. Biggie was invisible outside of NY, before 94. By 94, Pac was already widely known throughout the world. Maybe not strictly for his music, but he was a more recognisable name a few years before Biggie. There was never a time where Biggie was bigger than Pac. Not when they were alive and certainly not after they passed.
These dudes have terrible memory smh pac was already a global phenomenon!! He dropped 3 albums before big dropped his first one. He did 3 movies before big droped his first album. PAC was global. He was the top selling rapper. He was outselling LL cool J..stop all this disgusting behavior man smh non bias. I’m from Ny, biggie was never as big as PAC. Pac was going platinum in two weeks. It took big 3 months to go platinum. These are facts man. Sorry but pac put big on before puff! He gave big his first show. Let him open up for him on the strictly for my ninjas tour.. disappointed in Ed lover man. If you don’t remember just say you don’t remember. There’s stories from more valid ppl than Ed they say puff got pac killed. The streets n body guards say it. Those murders are 100% connected. N snoop did a whole video knocking down the train towers in the heat of the beef which aired after the source awards. Snoop diss Ny n then tucked his tail.
You being from NY don't make what you say valid dude... You want a cookie or something for being from NY and going against what Ed and others have said? 🍪 Lol Hopefully all the NY and Biggie haters in the comments send u a nice post card for being "non bias" 🤡 All jokes aside ur just wrong - Pac had two albums out before Ready to Die and neither were doing large numbers internationally. Matter fact Thug life vol 1 came out later the same month as ready to die and didn't sell as well as Bigs first album. So all this global phenom and top selling rapper talk is bullshit. Pac was doing shows paying niggas $50 dollars a night, he was in no position to put anybody on Also Big was signed to Uptown records in 1992 under Puffy and Pac had nothing to do with that. So how did Pac put Big on again?
I'm from Southern California and I remember this west/east coast beef vividly. I agree that the media had a lot to do with the hype but the egos between artists were wild too. I remember Pac's song that which he mentioned he slept with Faith Evans and the look-alike he had in his video. Crazy and sad time back then and senseless to lose 2 great and talented rappers.
BIG shouldn't have had 6 Tupac Diss Tracks on Life After Death. My team in Marine Blue - Long Kiss Goodnight His team of South Side Crips ( they wear Mariners Hats for the S )
STFU PAC wasn't the demise for biggies death that was puffy and everybody knows it was over some other shit. Biggie shouldn't have never went back to Cali if he had beef
My childhood friend in Houston rapped under Dr Dre. Then we found out about dude in World Class Wreckin Crew and he changed it to Doc D. That name probably wasn't that rare lol
Do you know how crazy it is to talk to someone who saw Biggie & PAC’s come up and also experienced the whole vibe with them from the jump! Big up Ed Lover. Love from London, UK 🇬🇧
I’m from the states, but the best hip-hop comes out of the UK. Y’all definitely hold the culture of hip-hop to the highest level.💯
@@newera5238 Appreciate the love bro👊🏾♥️. We eat and breathe hip hop over here. No games, no gimmicks just straight bars.
Top comment right here. UK 🇬🇧 stand up.
i'm a londoner. i saw tupac in the new york club with them brooklyn ones the night it all went left.
biggie had the best flow.
tupac the goat of all goats.
Ed Lover and Dr Dre are my childhood heros Yo mtv Raps meant everything to me
Same here. Im from Howard Beach Queens. In the 80's-90's we weren't only known as the most Cosa Nosa members living on the same neighborhood at one time in the America it was known for killing non whites who even tried to come into the neighborhood so for Me a huge Hip Hop head I had to order every single and album special until the whole neighborhood got into it also into around 95 the dudes who worked in the store spent the next 25 years thanking me for putting them onto all the music too. Anyway recording Yo at least once a week then constantly rebumpin it was the Thing to, as well as Video music box!
Special actually made me cry😢 especially when you heard flavor Flav wraps the people realize how talented he really was!
You would literally have nothing to talk about in school the next day if you missed an episode! MTV Raps was IT!!!
If those were your childhood heroes your childhood sucked 😂😂😂😂
I felt that way about Rapcity ) especially the Basement
Ed Lover is probably as close to a living encyclopedia of Hip Hop that we have. The things he's seen and experienced.... wow....
T K Kirkland is like that too.
for sure
Son. Ralph McDaniels.
Yes but not that accurate though
KRS 1 too
Always love Ed Lover’s interviews. He’s always curt, straight-forward and never talks off the side of his mouth, unlike most rappers these days.
Look up the definition curt, you're not using it correctly.
Them boys wasn’t looking for a problem but got snoops trailor shot.
Bingo
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Bro! They seem to always conveniently leave that part out
Yeah cause Biggie got on the radio & said what he said… smh.
They were shooting a diss song/video
Ed Lover is a legend. I used to do the Ed lover dance when I was a kid.
Orlando and the Crips were associated with Puffy. Why are they leaving out that out!
Me and you are associated with juneteenth thr we go to together luv 🌈😍💯
@@ZYaKnoe248okay Jalen
Exactly
True bro, Man ed lover is a PAC hater, look at the interviews with PAC and him and ed lover and biggie, he always makes PAC sound like he was just making things up
Because Puffy and the Crips didn't make Pac jump out the window and attack Orlando. He did that on his own. Now if Puffy was in attendance and Puff got stomped out by Pac n crew - you might have a case but Pac dug his own grave n crashed out all on his own
Freeing Puff from any wrong doing
Even as an 11 year old growing up in Cali, when big died. We just knew that was revenge for 2pac. We all felt that . Streets knew it
Same!!!!!
And sadly I began not like Pac As Much until I grew up, and saw how the media does things and the powers that be twist things!!!
Damn
I agree, we lost the two greatest- it was very painful 😣 because I appreciate, admire and loved 🥰 both of them...
Puff should of never had Big go to Cali especially a year after pacs death fcking snake🐍
@@marcusanthony6225PAC gave the media that fuel to make the fire bigger
Tupac was getting better and better with each album and movie he did. Can’t even imagine what he would have been!
We saw that with the makaveli album
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Moving this Country the right way for SURE…!
fucKILLuminati!
Don't forget Big as well
He was becoming something I’ve never seem in hip hop. Him and Biggie both. So wondering if a little rivalry or if Pac was mad Biggie wouldn’t choose sides. Pac did say loyalty was everything.
My take away is that masta ace needs to be on the show
1 of the coldest on the mic ever
Facts
Brownsville legend
I'm from Harlem. Let me tell you something. New York is organize crime influenced. Puffy is connected and the people pac had problems with are no joke
Im from Cali. Graduated HS in 95. I never even went to NY until I was in my 30's mainly because of the East vs West "Beef" but oddly enough when I finally went to Brooklyn it felt just like back home. 2 of the greatest artist of all time RIP. We owe it to ourselves to put together what "They" tore apart. The powers that be took that opportunity to divide a nation of young black ppl who were unifying through music. Literally 20 yrs later, still talked about like it was yesterday. ✌🏾❤️🩹 #Time2Heal
What do you mean by they ? White people ? Jews ? Who ? Don't be scary now put some bass in your voice and say it.
Black people have been robbing and murdering each other long before rap.
It's time yall stop blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your own actions. That's what a real man does.
A lot of yall are grown but still sit around crying like babies blaming all your problems on the white man. Its pathetic and yall should be embarrassed.
" they say it's the white man I should fear. But it's my OWN kind that's doing all the KILLING here " Tupac - Only God Can Judge Me
This episode is Legendary…Ed Lover is a hip hop landmark
Well, let’s put it like this.
After Pac got shot, Bad Boy/Live Squad were hanging and/or attending events from the one who called the shots on Pac.
Not to mention how he was connected to other NY rappers at the moment.
Now, Biggie & Puffy did their part for the problem to escalate like it did.
And that was just Death Row & Bad Boy beefing, now other NY MC’s did throw some slick lines on their records directed at Pac and not Death Row, so it was something going on that most of people forget to mention when this topic comes out.
Now, remember that Suge’s homie got killer in that JD Party and he blamed Puffy for it.
Remember Tim Dogg Started the East coast West Coast Beef 😂not pac like these frauds tryna make it seem to rewrite ourstory
@@darkmanxxx8810Very valid point.
@@darkmanxxx8810yup that part too . Way before PAC & Big was beefing.
SPOT TF ON, CUZ THESE FOLKS TRIPPIN
Big was always cool wit Live Squad & so was Nas
Ed bodied this interview!!! Real NY OG’s dropping science always gets my utmost attention!!! Peace and blessings Math to you and your team!!! Good look on the RFK Jr joint as well!!! Another great piece!!! BK do or die!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Agreed. Great comment right here.
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@@Tannay786 damn bro you wrote a dissertation in the comments 😂😂😂 you ain't all the way wrong though
They completely ignoring the NY NY shooting. Snoop and they was pissed and we’re definitely dissing Biggie.
Hey boo ❤
@@ZYaKnoe248okay Jalenn
Maybe that was in response to what happened the night before at the Deathrow Christmas Party on December 15th 1995.
@@erfbgu2643all of that happened months before the Christmas party dude
They always ignore that shit they make it seem like new York was victims
Ed lover wrong. Snoop was definitely dissing big at one point and biggie called the radio station thinking Pac was at snoop video shoot which led to the video trailer getting shot up. Biggie played his part and so did snoop. And I know stretch was they friend but he did some sheisty shit.
Yep. He's trying to sanitize NY's role in the coastal beef. Tim Dog's Step to Me was definitely a shot.
@@chemistryrussell and all these old school niggas do that when it comes to this. East Coast is never did nothing and is innocent saints n Pac them in the wrong. Same bullshit narrative.
Absolutely everybody did at that time in hip hop snoop dogg was jealous of pac and biggie period he trying to change the narrative on everything remember he was the hottest rapper at one point in the game although pac already was a superstar but when he did me against the world and biggie did ready to die they both changed hip hop especially pac forever when pac went to deathrow records he basically took snoop shine everybody was sneak dissing
That was on Angie Martinez show, I remember bein a kid listening to this, to be clear BIG did say go see them but Angie clarified "musically" and BIG was like yea musically no violence blah blah blah...take that info as you will
@@chemistryrussellMC Hammer took a shot at Run DMC in the Let's Get It Started video first
Pac name gotta come up in every single interview everywhere. 🐐
Love!
2pac = 🐐
Right
Los angeles still killin rappers man they move different.
As a kid from Queens this brings me warm feelings. 👊🏽
That's because Pac was from NYC!
Snoop got scared... When he realized shit done hit the fan...😂
JUICE came out in 1992 Ed!! 💯
You're absolutely right. I said this too, but of course after 30 years, memories tend to be sketchy at times.
And TUPAC WAS BUBBLING 💯💯💯
He downplay PAC’S FAME, LOST CREDIBILITY
Naw I want my money
If he ever fall he got me.. ..
Same thing I said.
ED LOVER PLAYED UNBELIEVEABLE EVERY SINGLE MORNIN’ ON THE RADIO AT THE EXACT TIME. WHEN MY ALARM CLOCK WENT OFF, BIG WAS PLAYIN. EVERY FUCKIN MORNIN. THAT WAS MY ALARM CLOCK. RIP TO THE GREATEST. DAS BIG👑🗽
how would he know what Pacs motivation was.
Awesome interview from a Legend from Legendary times. Brings me back.
U need Big Gene on there ASAP..might be a 2 hr. show. That's the episode we need to see too..Ed Lover..great stories❤
Big Gene is a clout chasing Bubba Gump sounding fool
When that who shot ya was released that was when things started turning
Ed lover be saying a lot of cap when it comes to the Tupac situation I didn’t even watch the video yet
You right bro. He is biased and I love Ed Lover
2pac fanboys🤦🏾♂
@@3rdGenerationCancer it ain’t nigga i Been following all this Pac shit for YEARS. An the real story from the people ACTUALLY THERE. Pac never accused big. And big didn’t walk out with the gun that night he got it a few days later.
They’re still bitter about Pac and hit em up, I’ve been saying that for years and Sean bigga showed NYC’s weirdo “gangsters” true feelings about pac when he got in his feelings 😂🤣
@@jamallewilson6100
Y'all don't know what biased actually is
Ed knew both sides and spoke favorably about both. You dudes just can't take hearing any criticism of the rapper u idolize . Ed knew Pac and is speaking from an informed pov... Y'all stans who weren't even there but taking sides are biased
Finally somebody telling the truth 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Nah he's lying too much east coast bias. BIG was doing too much on the radio in LA. He wasn't humble at all
Doing too much? He’s promoting his album spitting lyrics nobody heard yet, and on top of that they young
He’s not. NY dudes always try to make BiG seem like he was such an Angel. He got Snoop Dogg trailer shot up in NY and he was mad disrespectful to Tupac on Sway show right before he was killed himself
I was in my 20s when they both got murdered I always and still am a big fan of both BIG and Pac. But I always said Big died because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. and in both shootings, I feel Pac knew who was responsible for his shooting he just didn't say anything. And when Pac got killed in Vegas he messed with the wrong people when they jumped Orlando Anderson. How the police did not put 2 and 2 together is beyond me. And, just because the police were not doing their job BiG got killed. It was crazy the day BIG died I was driving to work had to pull my car over and lost it I didn't listen to hip hop for 2 years because of that mess. RIP to both Big and Pac.
Everything you said bro, I was the same way!!!!
Your last few sentences really hit it on the head for me. I was only in the third grade when they both died and I remember when "Missing You" was all over the charts after BIG's murder. That whole period just seemed so dark and eerie and it turned ME off of hip-hop for a while myself, but I remember it being damn near impossible to escape. (being a kid who obviously only has so much say over the radio also didn't help). Everywhere you turned the media was talking about these two tragedies or it was their music on repeat. Every fucking car that drove by, every business you walked into, every cookout: BIG or Pac. I remember subsequent records from other artists got a little darker too around that time. Shit was lowkey eerie for a minute. From the point of view of a child, hip-hop went from being this fun funky music to some shit that the actual stars themselves were dying over. It took almost until I was high school for me to really come back around to hip-hop voluntarily.
BIG died for rapping Long Kiss Goodnight
BS🥱🤣
Correction: JUICE came out in 1992 and was filmed in Harlem in 1991. PAC was a star when BIG meet him and this has been confirmed by multiple sources close to BIG including Junior Mafia! Ed Lover my guy but he got that wrong..
Juice didn’t make PAC a star,it was nice movie though
They lied on Biggie the whole time. From quad studio shooting to las vagas mayhem. He was innocent from day one.
Ny nighas was dissing the west coast and the south since day one. Y’all nighas didn’t give the other coast credit. New York has this mentality like they’re kings and they run shit we don’t play that down south and the west coast don’t play that either. That’s why New Yorkers get beat up whenever they leave New York and be disrespectful. Tim Dawg and all them.
Yes, but then biggie was so mad about the I f**ked your wife line in his diss track that it led him to be so disrespectful in LA about Pac's death
Sad thing is that people in PAC camp knew BIG ain't have nothing to do with it.
@@darrellalston2103 exactly
Innocent from day one? Listen to biggie’s lyrics on long kiss goodnight….even he refused to be innocent and those bars got him killed unfortunately 😢
Comment section need to chill. 4real let them dudes rest in peace it’s over and done let’s not make the same mistakes and sadly these younger artists made this tradition of rap beef worse
No I’m not going to let them rest in peace Biggie was on some real fuckery acting like he wanted no part of it meanwhile he was dropping subliminals left and right and got Dogg pounds trailer shot up piggie
Facts
But everyone is entitled to thier own opinions just like you are
too many emotional ninjas out there for real
@antionejohnson-cd5sj, absolutely you are entitled to your own opinion, but it's not contributing to anything positive. We should cherish their memories more than that stupid beef. They were young! And also, we have never heard anyone stepping to the late Afeni Shakur or Ms. Voletta Wallace to express their opinion so I think we should have more respect. Both of those mothers embraced each other live on television with love. Let Tupac and Biggie rest in peace. Its been 26 to 27 years. My opinion on that brotha.
Juice came out Jan 1992 Pac was only 20. We all forget how young they were. But all because Suge came at Puffy does not mean he came at a whole coast. All rap beefs come to an end this beef never got a chance to end. Rip Pac Rip Big!
Yeah media hyped things up so they played a part in it.
@@Jason-lv4uuBruh Ice Cube/Tupac were riding on the East. Hell even Snoop was banging on them before he got scared. The East took shots at the West Coast rappers for years so that tension was always there media aside.
@@DontDrinkthatstufftrue story. When tim dogg dropped f**k Compton, it was on it that point..
@@DontDrinkthatstuff
What shots was the east taking at West Coast
Be specific
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate look up the diss song by Tim Dogg f**k compton
This is the best interview you've had!!!!!!!!! Man I miss Yo! MTV Rap days!!!!!
East coast artist been talking slick since the late 80's ,. 2 live crew whooped Run DMC ass behind the disrespect
😮 I don’t remember this
No they didn’t lol he just threatened them
Post up proof or ur mother definitely drank old English when she was pregnant
Who shot ya! Is how it got started. Released that song for attention and sales while Tupac was locked up
Aren't all songs released for attention and sales?🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@mistermay7986Bang Bang
Facts and it was released literally right after PAC had just got sent to Prison & had the #1 Album at the Time on the charts (Me Against The World) , yet nobody sees that. Smh
Dumb man
Ed a LEGEND. Can't wait till the full interview
Rest in peace to both soldiers
Juice 🎬 came out in 1992.
Ed Lover wasn’t even there, he’s basing it off shit Stretch told him (a man that said Pac never got shot and was only pistol whipped).
Where u?? 😂😂😂😂😂 all u know is what u saw on social media 😂😂😂
🤥 Lies
@@flamtap4455nigga he wasn’t there. He himself said it.
@@flamtap4455nigga he wasn’t at Quad and he literally says he minded his business in THIS video lol
The same nigga pac said Dropped like a Sack of potatoes 😂
Lil Shawn was the one who hid the racket
I can’t believe this ninja got old. I grew up to this man along with dr Dre, lisa.
Hot 97 mornings was legendary. Ay yo who remember the morning freestyles - or the movies whos da man?
So many memories- I even remember when ed lover came out to south Huntington Long Island ny before banks moved out there. He came out to a basketball game that turn into a big brawl between south Huntington and Huntington station. Yo forever loved🫶🏾!!!
Ppl saying snoop was neutral but now that the biggie diss song snoop did with Pac, nobody coming back to say oh that’s y Pac felt a way about snoop switching his tone with the “oh biggie my homeboy” interview.
Tupac never blamed Biggie, wtf..
He did. He blamed biggie for turning his back on him. They didn’t even mentioned Pac got locked up for the guns that were left in his room. Pac said they were junior mafias guns and he took that case.
I don't blame you for helping me work on my form luv 😘💯
A bunch of Pac interview saying that yet they still going with a lie
He knew who had him lined up. He did the beef shit to sell records.
To sell records he was already making? Pac was already outselling Biggie.. y’all need a better narrative
Ed Lover is a legend. He's funny without even trying to be funny. Salute to the OG 😂😂😂💪💪
11:25 That was hell of accurate big impersonation 😂😂😂
I feel u ed when u say big ain't had nothing to do with it but why he take credit for it then on long kiss goodnight bragging boy having pac killed him n puff then go to l.a. and rap that live on the radio ....ultimate disrespect... so why say he ain't play a role?? Puff had a million dollar hit on him n suge u think biggie ain't know?
And how could biggie be hurt to his core after plotting to step on pac then lyrically celebrating his death
@@tipanu6554 right they chose to turn a blind eye to a lot of shit Big did. It was easy to blame Pac because he was so outspoken and angry about being betrayed.
@@jamalj6973 right big definitely wasn't innocent it's just a sad situation he was in
@@tipanu6554 Pac said he was going to murder people children. Pac made himself a foe, so why shouldn't Big respond?
@@jamalj6973
On the contrary it's easy to take Pacs side and run with it because Big wouldn't acknowledge the drama publicly. So when y'all point to stuff like Long kiss goodnight y'all really reaching based off some shit Pac said amping up the beef. That's was wrong for Pac not only to publicly smear Big but to polarize the fans who didn't know any better
Pac didn’t know who was responsible, so he lashed out, but he found out eventually. The beef should have stop then
It may have been called a "East coast/West coast beef" but West coast dudes killed both of them.
Crazy nobody says that tho
East coast guy tried to kill Pac first
Bad Boy was cool with Pac's killers though.
@@hiphoprbloverjon9180 That don`t mean Bad Boy had anything to do with Pac`s death. Also Pac`s death look like a inside job to me. Baby Lane who Pac assualted at the MGM Gram and was apart of the rival gang to Suges Blood gang. He tried to help Suge beat his court case in which Suge was being charged with assaulting him. And he also sued Pac estate but never sued Suge even though both of them assaulted him. And Suge lied about getting shot when he was in the car with Pac , his cut came from glass or debris. If that don`t look like a inside job as far as Pac`s death then idk what to tell you.
And ICE-T and Hammer were taking shots at East coast artists in the 80s
Listened to Ed lover every day his show was very entertaining.
I can’t stand when ppl try an speak for ppl
Same
"Fuck Compton" by Tim Dog was years before Tupac vs Big
Ed Lovers vocal impressions of BIG is crazy! 💯🫡🙏🏽
All ain't heard the Sway n Pac interview... he told u what happened n how he felt, but y'all wanna listen to the 3rd party instead of the man who actually lived it smh... 😂
But that was PAC’s truth. Big had his too.
Facts
Why would the big homie lie on the Lil homie.... pac was telling the truth... jealousy hate and ask that bs is real.... big was screaming thug life big was being allowed to rap at pac shows big was a dam character smh its sad when people can't see the real. Tbh it's disrespectful to compare them in any way pac is a whole nother level. Historic background but hey it is what it is
8ig Facts
That’s funny because when you go over to Bomb 1st or Art of Dialogue it’s a whole bunch of 3rd party talk yet the Tupac apologists never complain about that.
Can’t wait for this episode!!! The Legend Ed Lover!!!
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone actually telling the truth!!!! Pac and Jimmy was arguing before he went to meet up with Lil Shawn, Pac crew even asked Pac who are arguing with? Pac said Jimmy Hecnhman. Pac crew told Pac that's not someone you play with, we better strap up. Which is why Pac had his gun on him going to the studio that night.They went to quad and Jimmy goons were waiting on him. Which is exactly what Clark Kent meant, when he said Pac knew Biggie had nothing to do with it, and that Pac lied! Now you will have Pac fans scream about how Pac never said Big set him up, but that he was mad that Big didn't tell him where it came from? Why the hell does Big have to tell you where it came from when you already knew!!! When Big tried to tell Pac the first time to watch out for the cats he was running with because they from his borough of Brooklyn and everyone knows how they get down. Hell even Mike Tyson told him the same shit. We all know Pac was a hot head and hard headed and he refused to listen. Know one never talks about how Pac went back and told Jimmy Henchman and Jack that Big warned him about hanging with them. What happens a few weeks later? Big gets robbed by Jimmy goons, so in reality Pac got Big lined up, when Big was doing what any real friend would do. Then after Pac gets shot, he wants to act like Big ain't warn him. Then he wants to blame Big for how shit went down, come on man stop it. If you my man and from outta and town and you don't know how cats move in the city that you hanging with and I give you a heads up on some shit and you don't wanna listen to what I'm telling you, and some shit ends up popping of! Then that's on you!
Now that’s the Real Story The Real Truth. Yet and still people will try to defend Pac. Stop It.
Okay. Still shouldn't have released who shot ya. Cmon fam.
@@youngbloodpriest1644 Big couldn't control when Puff chose to release his tracks, that's on Puff. Plus who shot ya was aimed at LL Cool J, not Pac. But let me ask you this..... Why Pac ain't go at LL Cool J the way he went at Big? LL Cool J released I Shot Ya the same exact year that who shot ya was released. 1995!!!
As a loyal Tupac fan, I would say that he pushed his beef with Biggie too far and all of his issues resulted in multiple preventable strained friendships and even deaths. Like maybe Kadafi would still be here, his friendship with Stretch, hell, even Snoop would of been intact. Also, once he attacked Orlando Anderson, the Crips was going to be on him in his own “territory.” It was only a matter of time. PAC should have been protected from getting involved in the Las Vegas incident because he was the biggest star in the company.
Yep. Someone at DR had something to do with it and they didn't do Jack to protect him all they did is facilitate the bs.
NAHHH BIG WAS THROWING ROCKS AND HIDING HIS HANDS ALL HIS SNEAK DISSING….Snoop was Sneak dissing then showing Fake Love…BIGGIE GO TO CALI AND SPIT THAT FREESTYLE ON THE Radio BIG brought his death on himself And as far as the Crip They was payed to get Tupac but Puffy But ppl these days Want to Keep big name Clean And Really Blame everything onTupac and that. The sad Part notice they Never bring up That Mill puff put on Tupac and that’s because they want to keep Puff And Big name Clear
Big facts and I’m a PAC fan as well , he went overboard and it cost him his life
He didn’t “pushed” the beef there was a lot of shit going on between the media and a lot of these other east coast rappers that was speaking this shit that ain’t had nothing to do with them. And it’s like in their minds Pac is the one that created all of this shit, and it’s not true. Ni99as just can’t be real enough to say that they don’t like Pac, but instead they’ll say he started a “narrative” of this of shit which is once again not true. It’s just crazy how mofos just make it seem like Pac was responsible for this east coast vs west coast and Biggie and Puff didn’t contribute to any of it.
@@bossplayermfs5972 he did push it to be fair but it went too far and at some point it wasn't really about no beef it was just about selling records so that the greedy record labels get all they can get. They played a dangerous game tho which made it easier for whoever wanted to do away with them and ride off into the night without a trace.
I lived in Atlanta when Chris Luva Luva was on the radio with Poon Daddy.....I can't tell y'all how dope Atlanta was in the 90s!
I'm loving this interview with Ed Lover. He has so much knowledge of the Hip Hop community is crazy. He is probably the best guest on here. I always listened to Ed and Dre on the radio when I was in NYC. This is taking me back to all of the good rap I grew up on. Way better than this bullshit they play now.
Stepping over the fact BIG dissed 2pac on the radio station in L.A. before he got killed. Big freestyled Long Kiss Goodnight, a Pac diss.
I remember being in the Army and after PT we would head straight to the dayroom for YO MTV Rap. We looked at Ed Lover like he was family.
sometimes i cant even think about how the game would b like if pac & big was still here... like can yall even imagine that??? just makes u wanna cry at times
Absolutely
FACTS!!!!!!
Stretch from the Live Squad needs more recognition. Dope rapper and producer. Worked with Big, Pac, and Nas.
I remember when it was announced that pac died in a concert on the east coast the crowd was cheering. It was ED Lover who grabbed the mic and demanded respect for his fallen friend.
13:13 what about when BIG spit "Long Kiss Goodbye" on the radio? After Pac died and the week BIG died. RIP Pac n BIG
Pac told us everything we need to know ..plus he said some info about Stretch ..on the way to Quad ..Stretch ask to hold Pac’s heat …and he never like holding a heat thats why ..HOLLA AT ME IS FOR STRETCH ..Cant listen to these NY dudes
Pac misinformed y'all and you ran with it like a naive child
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate i can tell media miss inform your p*nk *ss just like them them Ny cats cause Pac never accuse biggie of setting him up ..he never did but ya ignorant still sayin he did smh
Damn! The game he's putting out there I hope the kids out there are listening to knowledge he dropping!!!
Pac never blamed big and big was dissing pac after death they really wanted puffy but got biggie
Mopreme said that 2pac did think Big and them were involved. 2pac did and said things that made it seem that this is what he felt.
Pac said Big knew about it and didn’t warn him. That’s the same thing as saying he was involved.
No it’s not ^^^
and Pac dissed Stretch after he died. Oh well.
Thanks for this interview... real talk.
Ed Lover isn't a Fan of pac 😂 only the real know this.... why yall be asking mfs who didn't like pac when he was alive about him ?💀
Man…💯💯💯
And u know this how?
Rest in Perfection to those young brothers in Thugz Mansion.
i remember living in the south when this beef kicked off...southern cats was screaming west side just because they hated new york...meanwhile nobody from new york was studying the south or even talking about them.
Thank You! Nobody was dissing "the south"
The biggest acts were like the 69 boys and whoop there it is booty shaking music like that. Even ppl in the south knows that shit was fun but the lyrics were wack abc123. That was the most we knew about Atlanta til OutKast and theres a big difference most ppl from NY agree Kast was dope. Same with the west coast. You can't convince NYers that Eazy E was a good rapper 😂 I don't care what records he was a part of. But mostly everybody from NY respects Ice Cube - cause cube had actual talent. We have a right not to like somebody raps, it doesn't mean we're hating or bias against an entire region. NY never hated on the south or the west - we were too busy focused on us to hate others and so they called us arrogant
Math really out here puttin the culture on his back! I'm proud of this nigga like I know him! Crown Heights stand all the way tf up! 11225!! Thank y'all for what y'all doin!
The King O.G. of Radio Ed Lover!
Ed is wrong saying Snoop wasnt in it like that and was neautral.
He is on a bunch of tracks dissing Big and shih, he played both sides and is even now to this day trying to rewrite history.
Thats why he was ishing on himself on the jet when Pac ignored him bc Pac heard him saying he likes everyone at Bad Boy and wants to make music with them.
Thats when Suge, Tupac and the rest of Death Row fully realized Snoop is a snake not a dog.
Doggystyle is a masterpiece and I liked alot of both R 'n' G (Rythym 'n' Gangsta) and Blue Carpet Treatment but every other album is trash except the occasional ok track.
He shreds on some features tho I'll give him that.
I wonder if Master P is happy he bought him from Tha Row bc imho his run on No Limit was 99% trash the other 1% was that track with C-Murda, that instrumental is insane!Murda slayed Snoop on it tho
What are the names of those track???
99% trash wtf. Bro I know you lyin west coast bad boyz was raw asf. Fam all of no limit shit was selling. They music was for drug dealers that’s why they shit was sellin every rip and they put out albums every other month is you serious.
NY 87 & Keep It Real
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@@telldetruth9259 thank you brother!
The issue with Pac and Biggie is that Pac wasn't in a position to get payback on the guys he knew had him shot (Henchman), so Pac decided to attack the little guy (Biggie). It's like when you got beef with the biggest bully on the block... Instead of fighting the bully, you beat up the nerd standing next to him.
Perfectly explained
Yep, that's about right.
I luv ed lover I grew up off him but someone with so much knowledge should give us more ..he owe it to the youth while he still here ijs #DopeMath💪
Excellent interview
Going back to Cali was low-key a diss record also who shot ya? Lol bad timing ,Big was Hella subbing. I’m from LA so I pretty much know a lot about the situation and it honestly started over a female that suge took from puff but they used to all be cool partying together and sharing women etc
Anything can be taken as an insult if you're already mad. Big gave Cali nothing but Love on that song imo but it was already up and the result was a man got killed over PERCEIVED slights smh🤦🏿♂️ never raised a hand or gun to anyone never outward disrespect... Just accusations and innuendos... Damn
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate if all that was true, why would he still drop that disrespectful song who shot ya? You know dam well if that was you, you would’ve thought it was about you too even if it wasn’t about pac , hella bad timing bro really bad timing and if puffy‘s bodyguard is lying why doesn’t he ever say anything about it? It’s been so many years he even talks about how puffy got biggie, murdered, do your research bro it’s all out there. But to each its own I’m not going to waste my time responding anymore.
My favorite interview. 💪🏽🙌🏽
Love this , Ed Lover is a pioneer in the culture
Good interview. Damn good interview.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🫡💯💯
I said that 30 years ago the media hyped that east coast vs west coast conflict.
Great interview.
Ed lover The spot on with the Biggie impersonation
As a LA dude, Biggie's death was the saddest moment in the history of the culture. Mind you, I was at the Fresh Fest in 86 when LB Insanes tore up the venue; the beef between Cube and NWA; death of JMJ; Big Pun; and Tupac. As Jeru said, Big was Hip Hop.
So it's a lie then what Ed Lover said, that ppl in LA were on the radio talking 💩? You saying that wasn't true?
THANKYOU!!!!!! IT WAS
@@Kenny-Alpha Not saying that at all. I'm sure there were people talking shit. There's some ignant people out here! Dj Quik talked shit after. But for true lovers of Hip Hop, this was the loss of all losses.
I miss watching Ed lover on on Yo MTV….
Yo Ed Lovers Biggie impersonation was dope 🔥🔥🔥
I'm nine months late, but I have to correct Ed Lover here. Biggie was invisible outside of NY, before 94. By 94, Pac was already widely known throughout the world. Maybe not strictly for his music, but he was a more recognisable name a few years before Biggie. There was never a time where Biggie was bigger than Pac. Not when they were alive and certainly not after they passed.
These dudes have terrible memory smh pac was already a global phenomenon!! He dropped 3 albums before big dropped his first one. He did 3 movies before big droped his first album. PAC was global. He was the top selling rapper. He was outselling LL cool J..stop all this disgusting behavior man smh non bias. I’m from Ny, biggie was never as big as PAC. Pac was going platinum in two weeks. It took big 3 months to go platinum. These are facts man. Sorry but pac put big on before puff! He gave big his first show. Let him open up for him on the strictly for my ninjas tour.. disappointed in Ed lover man. If you don’t remember just say you don’t remember. There’s stories from more valid ppl than Ed they say puff got pac killed. The streets n body guards say it. Those murders are 100% connected. N snoop did a whole video knocking down the train towers in the heat of the beef which aired after the source awards. Snoop diss Ny n then tucked his tail.
Bruh Pac's albums wasn't selling until he got shot and went to Prison. 😂 🙏🏾
NYC dudes are still bitter about hit em up
You being from NY don't make what you say valid dude... You want a cookie or something for being from NY and going against what Ed and others have said? 🍪 Lol
Hopefully all the NY and Biggie haters in the comments send u a nice post card for being "non bias" 🤡
All jokes aside ur just wrong - Pac had two albums out before Ready to Die and neither were doing large numbers internationally. Matter fact Thug life vol 1 came out later the same month as ready to die and didn't sell as well as Bigs first album. So all this global phenom and top selling rapper talk is bullshit. Pac was doing shows paying niggas $50 dollars a night, he was in no position to put anybody on
Also Big was signed to Uptown records in 1992 under Puffy and Pac had nothing to do with that. So how did Pac put Big on again?
Yeah, you're young. Afeni did a brilliant job in turning 2Pac in the icon he is today.
She doesn't get enough credit for that.
@@blackjesus6433 gen z has entered the chat
Wow Ed said Alabama Slamma... Damn that was my drink back in 89/90! Great Interview
Finally someone else said suge and diddy. Now add the fact when diddy body guard got hemmed up in atl boom
Classic interview🔥
I'm from Southern California and I remember this west/east coast beef vividly. I agree that the media had a lot to do with the hype but the egos between artists were wild too. I remember Pac's song that which he mentioned he slept with Faith Evans and the look-alike he had in his video. Crazy and sad time back then and senseless to lose 2 great and talented rappers.
I'm bout to go back watch Juice, just to see Ed lover's cameo 😊
Pac is the reason for his demise and Biggies fate...Pac had a big mouth and was his own worst energy nobody wants to say that...
Absolutely right
wtf u talking about man
BIG shouldn't have had 6 Tupac Diss Tracks on Life After Death.
My team in Marine Blue - Long Kiss Goodnight
His team of South Side Crips ( they wear Mariners Hats for the S )
STFU PAC wasn't the demise for biggies death that was puffy and everybody knows it was over some other shit. Biggie shouldn't have never went back to Cali if he had beef
Just looking back at this now.... and thinking and looking at champ here...smh. Crazy.
Sad bc i was 10 and thinking i wish i could stop this beef!!!! I want Biggie to rest in peace as well as Pac, how real is that- Shawn Carter
My childhood friend in Houston rapped under Dr Dre. Then we found out about dude in World Class Wreckin Crew and he changed it to Doc D. That name probably wasn't that rare lol