@elviracheeks3552. Happy belated birthday! No 70 is not old, however many don’t make it. Especially these younger people they’re killing each other rapidly b/c “They not like us” I’m turning 75 in October! Bless you Elvira.❤
Vanessa Bryant's mother filed a lawsuit against her. I saw an interview with Vanessa's mother, who claimed that Vanessa attempted to reclaim the house and cars that Kobe had bought for her, even though Vanessa doesn't need the money. If she's capable of doing this to her own mother, it's not shocking what she did to Kobe's.
@@Iridescent602 Her mother was mad greedy though. Right after Kobe died, her mother was doing interviews about how she was promised this and that and never got what she wanted. Call me crazy, but I'd expect parents to be a comfort for their child at a time like that, not come trying to collect what they can.
@@Iridescent602 she literally got like 16M because the cop shared pictures of the deceased. I think she was justified but 16M is insane. Most rich people will sue for 1$ to make a point, that the lawsuit is about the principle and not an attempt to get money. For example, Gwenyth Paltrow
Agreed. Losing Kobe clearly took its toll. VB attitude has been a thorn in the side of that family from the git go from the very beginning. It's sad. She could have matured and risen above the mess after all the years and even before Kobe died. Oh well, he pissed away his nuclear family. He's gone now, now the patriarch with the family name is gone. What a tragic story. Was hoping Joe and his wife Pam and the sisters would have done a documentary and a book, don't know why they didn't !
@@kimwalter8753 The whole family seems to be a bit of a mess. It’s been said that the sisters aren’t that close to the parents either…and Vanessa has issues with her mom. It’s very strange. All that outward success yet all this family turmoil.
He wasn’t just Kobe’s father; he was their children’s grandfather. It was disgusting on how Vanessa didn’t even let his parents speak at his memorial service. She’s trifling. Kobe was their son. I felt so bad for his parents during this time. The only person who even acknowledged his parents at the memorial was Shaquille O’Neal. Pure disrespect from everyone towards them. I pray God rest their soul 🙏🏿
If you don't have anything good to say, SAY LESS, it appeared heartless to me, it wouldn't surprise me about Irv, I agree with you, the way he talked about Ashanti was crazy 😮
I never knew all this about Kobe's Dad. I can believe he could have died from a broken heart. Thats crazy now two widows. She really should bond with his Mom. She lost her son and husband 😢😢😢
Aww, Kobe. I still 😭😭 thinking about when my youngest told me he passed. One of those days you remember where you were. Plus his beautiful baby. RIP the Bryant’s. Heartbreaking again 🙏🏽
You know what? Kobe Bryant parents shouldn’t be struggling financially, because they were probably working so hard to make their son’ dream came true. For her to treat them that way, personally, I found it too harsh. Now, you are enjoying your lifestyle, knowing well that you can afford to support them. God doesn’t like ugly.
They shouldn’t be struggling because Kobe’s Dad was in the NBA and had his own money….your kids shouldn’t be expected to take care of you, it’s the other way around. They did their job. Why do they have their hands out?
@@TDoubleYuYour exactly right he'll you can't take it with you all them millions and want even help out his parents shame Shame on her I just couldn't have all that money and not help out his family !!
@@TDoubleYuyes!!! I hate that mentality that some parents have. People don’t realize the added pressure of a young adult child that has to take on that burden when the parents could’ve prepared themselves financially to care for themselves. That’s a very selfish mindset.
@@honeywest39j95 They said the dad helped him to get where he was in the NBA but im going to say this if they were struggling i would never let mine struggle whether they put up a nest egg or not. Smh
It's never too late to make things right Vanessa Bryant. Pam could certainly use your authentic support both spiritually and financially. Karma is real
That lil witch wont do it cause she still upset cause his parents never approved of her cause for 1 she was underage 2 she was latina and 3 she was a video girl…
SMDH Vanessa could had been a bit more compassion regardless of who or what the situation could be! After all if it wasn't for Joe & his wife Vanessa wouldn't be enjoying the lifestyles that she is living & family over everything. Do better Vanessa
They treated her like shit their entire marriage and urged kobe not to marry her, cutting off people that don’t wish you well should be practiced more. The delusion yall live in is nuts
@@honeybqweenbut so did Kobe didn't he cheat on her the entire marriage she just wanted that bag and she got it thanks to her mother because she was going to divorce him during the rape case because she found out right after the press conference he had another girl on the side her mother told her to stay pass the ten years mark and he still cheated so she should have that same energy to Kobe as she do his parents
It's so good to see you back in the studio Kempire. The camera looks great! The statement from Vanessa feels like it should be for an Uncle of Kobe instead of his father but it just confirms they didn't have a close relationship. I hope she and his mother can reconcile for the children's sake.
She could have left out though the times we spent together were few. Unnecessary. Just acknowledge his passing and express condolences. Without him there is no kobe. They gave him an exceptional, rare childhood for a black male.
I very clearly remember an interview in which Joe Bryant stated about his and his wife's estrangement from Kobe, "One day, he'll understand why we are doing this." It sounded clearly to be an admission that his parents pulled away from him. Not the other way around. The details and specificities have never been spoken of in-depth publicly; but, so many people have criticized Vanessa and even Kobe when his parents were also rather imperfect individuals.
Thank you. The commenters act as if all in laws are wonderful people. Why is it Vanessa’s responsibility to have a relationship Kobe didn’t have when he was living?
I would back away from my son if he was dating a minor while he was 23 years old. 🤷🏾♀️ Vanessa’s mother tried to get him in trouble for rape but decided that them getting married would be more profitable……why wouldn’t his parents have a problem with that?
@@jasmineartis5754 They were married for almost 20 years and had 4 children. Everything you stated was irrelevant. Kobe was a grown man and made a choice.
We all know Kobe was no saint. If he wanted his wife to be close to his parents, he would've made it happen. They both have f%cked up relationships with their family.
Why is she horrible? Didn’t Kobe himself cut his parents off? He held a press conference about his parents stealing his memorabilia. That’s all Kobe. If he himself cut them off why are we expecting his wife to all of a sudden have a relationship with them that he didn’t have. Kobe never seemed like someone who could be manipulated. He chose to go straight to the NBA, get married at a young age, unfortunately made the choice to cheat on his wife when he did. That’s all Kobe! So why is Vanessa being blamed for decisions Kobe made.
@Wordplay80 this is before all of that When he was going to go professional, it was a very long time ago, but I remember his parents wanted him to focus on his game and also be with a black woman to create a black family.Vanessa was a video girl
Horrible statement! That man is still her father in law, and granddad to her late husband kids! Not surprised since they weren’t acknowledged at their own sons’s funeral!
@@ralphangel561 we will never know the true status of Kobe and his parents relationship but at the end of the day Kobe is gone and now his dad is too. The same energy and effort it too to write that message could have been used to write something more tasteful IMO!
That statement was giving, ignorant, arrogant, and out of touch. She needs to do right by his family and make amends with his mother. You only got one life to live, make it right. Prayers to the Kobe Family.
@@arteshaLeAnn sad thing she don't mess with her mother either! Guess what she has daughters and they are learning to minimize and be dismissive of your parents! Soooo when they repeat what she taught them.....
@Jerome-hk1np. This resonate with me too. I thought I saw reports, alleged of course, that Vanessa was not being kind to her MIL. 😢 she also had alleged cutthroat behavior with wives of the other Lakers players. I don’t know but it would be not cool if she’s being petty to his parents. These sports legends need to setup a Trust to protect their parents or children financially just in case.
The statement seemed appropriate to me. They didn’t have a relationship and she was respectful of their hurt. Having children with someone doesn’t mean you’re close to their family. People often want to rewrite history when someone dies. I respect her statement.
Snow Bunny which Dr Umar talks about. She’s been very unkind to those parents since his death even just out of decency she could have done better than what has been reported.
@@TDoubleYu who said it was about her race? Who would want their adult child who was on the rise in their career to be with a high schooler? Many level headed people would object to that. They didn’t know the family and they didn’t know her.
Vanessa was always arrogant and greedy. Kobe bless her with a blissful and happy life. A real wife would have fix it before he departed this earth. The children have two sets of grandparents. I am still mad that Vanessa did not let his parents speak at the celebration. So sad. God please lift up his wife and sisters.❤
So sad to hear about Kobe's dad, my heart goes out to his wife, daughter & grandkids. I'm not going paint Kobe's parents as villains in Vanessa's story just because she didn't get along with them. She's his widow so I'll keep it cute but she was not a sweet innocence, angel when he was alive.
I came here to write this. That was her out. She's lucky he offered to do that and not just kick her out from wherever they were. (And really - did she think he flew her out there to talk about her car's warranty?)
Same. I wonder aboutthe context. Because if she was a video girl for example that could be problematic cause she would have been labeled hard to work with
Yeah, Vanessa's statement is... telling.😬 Seems something happened long ago. But I know from personal experience that relationships between in-laws can start rocky & just get worse. It is what it is.
If he was nice, everything they were together, what was the issue with the children not visiting the grandparents? Then we have folks saying Vanessa gets alone with the sister. Why wrong with the children visiting the grandparents?
@@lovegodschild1430He was surrounded by nothing but white folks in high school. And Kobe NEVER said he was too good for black women. He was dating Brandy and he was rumored to be dating Tyra Banks too I think
Honestly, that Vanessa isn't close to his family is really Kobe's fault. It was his responsibility to ensure that his family was tight with his wife and (or at least) kids. He clearly didn't foster that relationship, so why would Vanessa try after Kobe's death? Just my two cents.
It says a lot about her character. She should have insisted. I have known women who were not particularly close to their in-laws but they made sure that the kids had a relationship with them. When you are gone, the kids will know they have a family that they already know and can be around.
@@elle535 The fact is, you don't know that she didn't insist. You don't know what happened between them; none of us do. At the end of the day, an individual is the one responsible for bridging relationships between their parents and their children, it's not their spouse's job to do that.
My profound condolences to Mrs. Bryant, Kobe's sisters, his children, and the remaining family members. I will light a candle and say a special prayer for Mr. Bryant when I go to mass. May God grant eternal rest to Mr. Joe Bryant. Let us see if Vanessa will encourage her children to attend their grandfather's funeral mass. What many of Kobe's fans do know is that he was in the process of divorcing Vanessa when he tragically died. The lesson here is always be on top of your will preparation, regardless of how busy you are. Any man who is divorcing a woman never plans to giving her all of his assets. Rest in power Mr. Joe Bryant.
Vanessa and her family BENEFITTED the most from that man's heritage and hard work, she's darn near a billionaire thanks to him and his wife, and has been feeling herself ever since. Dr Umar talks bad about her, she does not care tho
RIP Joe jellybean Bryant were from my neck of the woods , we were in high school the same time & yes 69 is young. Without Joe & Pam there would not be a Kobe, Vanessa should be a shame of herself. As a parent they felt that he should not have gotten married so young, most parents feel that way .
Yes that statement is cold as hell that's why i wanted to hear what Vanessa own mother had to say about her ass in her in tell all book but we will never know since she paid off her own mother stop her from spilling her secret to the whole world people Vanessa ain't innocent if you all would have heard what her stepdad said how her mother groom her to get with Kobe and dump the boy that she was already dating innocent you just don't pay someone off not to do a tell all book about you if you are innocent
I hear she was still seeing that boy and he crash Kobe expensive car and Kobe still married her after that and people be mad his parents didn't like her I wouldn't have as well no matter what color she was Kobe use to date nice educated women before Vanessa that got along fine with his parents just sad all the way around
Im gonna need for yall to remember that Kobe had fell out with his parents before he passed. She made the statement for her children so we’ll leave it at that. Its not up to Vanessa to do anything but she did for her children.
Like really didn't like her like I thought he & his parents MUTUALLY disowned each other. V should've given both his parents & her parents @ least 30 mil each just because she would make that back in interest in a few years. She inherited a 600000 million dollar estate successfully sued Nike & the LAPD I hope his dad's passing had nothing to do with healthcare costs cuz that would just be DEAD WRONG!
@@Itsmesnitches123That money isn’t hers. It’s in trust. Vanessa and the girls receive payments from the trust to support their lifestyle. When Vanessa dies, the trust will dissolve and an equal share of the funds will be released to each of the surviving daughters.
Kobe dad try to like her for his grandkids and Kobe mom loved gigi but when they sold the memorabilia that Kobe and Vanessa said they didn't want they was not allowed to see his kids anymore sad because Kobe couldn't take them sluts or the money or memorabilia with him when he left her so non of it mattered
The idea that Vanessa needs to be more concerned with Kobe's parents than he was when he was alive is ludicrous! He fell out with his parents ages ago because they didn't agree with his marriage to Vanessa. Kobe's parents never apologized for their behavior or reconciled with their son before his passing. IMO, what Vanessa was more than enough. Had she said nothing, the public would have dragged her. In the public's eye, she is wrong no matter what she does. It's sad that the public doesn't hold Kobe's parents to the same standard.
He had to choose between his family or his wife and her family it’s so on so many levels, Vanessa is so full of it smh 🤦🏾♀️… He took care of Vanessa whole entire family… And left his’s out to dry because of her… It’s a lot of layers to this story…
Everyone blaming Vanessa , need to blame Kobe tbh , the way he treated his parents is the way Vanessa continued to treat his parents. Its that simple if he made sure his parents were priority, she would have no choice but to make his parents priority. Kobe had a tumultuous relationship with his parents too
Vanessa statement isn’t sincere at all. The backstory on Kobe’s relationship with his parents stems from Vanessa being underage and Vanessa’s mother was trying to blackmail Kobe and forced Kobe to marry Vanessa with them being so young. And that is why Kobe and his parents have a strain relationship they were just trying to protect him. Let’s be clear Kobe cheated on Vanessa with the alleged woman that he raped in Colorado and it was settled out of court (victim was paid off) and Kobe bought Vanessa 1M ring during the trail because Vanessa was going to clean him dry because he cheated. I don’t trust Vanessa whatsoever and Vanessa’s mother created the conflict with Kobe and his parents
Damn irv can’t catch a break, first Ashanti has her second baby shower now this? Irv looks like the type!!! The way he went in on him and Ashanti physical relationship made me cringe
This tension didn’t start after Kobe died. We heard about this years ago when they first got married. If they didn’t get along no need for her act otherwise 🤷🏽♀️
As a Kobe fan, I've never liked Vanessa. This statement demonstrates that I was right. Who gives a shady post about one of your children’s grandparents after they passed away? Just tacky
@kempire , Kobe had a very strained relationship with his parents so although he may have loved his father, they were not very close for many years including up until his death, as a result of his parents not wanting him to get married to Vanessa because they were both very young. There was also drama regarding his parents being upset that Kobe wasn’t financially supporting them in the way they expected. In fact, his Dad Joe actually sold Kobe’s first championship ring and many other very valuable and one of a kind memorabilia soon after his death. Now Vanessa, is a fellow Taurus and one thing about us Taurus is we are loyal to a fault so I can understand why her statement may have seemed cold to someone who is not familiar with the situation. She stood by her husband’s decision to have limited contact/relationship with her in-laws and as you know, just because folks may be “family,” doesn’t mean you are close or need to put up appearances for the public. I mean, sis cut off her own mother for trying to extort money from her daughters after her husband died - Vanessa don’t play!
Kobe didn't invite his wife to his sister wedding he cheated a lot in that marriage he was just trying to protect his family images because that what his agent told him if he lose his family images he will lose money and fans
No Kemure.. it was the part you said Vsnessa said ".. Sad that things have ended the way they did between us" .. or didnt rnd well.. something to those affects
Kobe was estranged from his parents both emotionally and financially long b4 he died in the crash. They did not approve of his marriage and did not attend the wedding.I can only imagine what was said b4 and since then that would have caused this.
If she would have said nothing, y’all would have had something to say. She said, what she said. Let’s remember we know nothing about these people and their lives.
Irv is a creep, the predatory behaviour he bragged about and bitterness of the end results he had in that interview when in reality ashanti was19-22 and irv was 37 and married.
I still think she could have done better without his parents there wouldn't have been a kobe .respect your elders are yall familiar with that phrase !!
Sorry, but Vanessa's statement was fair to me. I don't find anything cold about it. Personally, I wouldn't say anything about a person dying that I wasn't speaking with. There have been family members that have died and we weren't speaking. I didn't say anything and I didn't attend the funeral but I did have closure. I did forgive. Maybe she should have kept quiet but still the public would've dragged her. She can't win
@lynne709 You would think that, huh? That's why Nike wanted to partner with her after he passed away. They dumped her immediately. Kobe was the star. She was just a gold digging 304 that came between him and his parents, but go off sis
RIP Jellybean💛 I know we should be focusing on Jellybean's life, but it is just so sad how their relationship was damaged because of Vanessa and she not only caused it, she encouraged it! I used to temporarily live near his paternal grandparents' home where they lived and died and the street and living conditions were deplorable to have Kobe as a grandson. The whole block (street) had mostly condemned homes. It used to hurt me to go past that neighborhood and know that the people that truly loved and invested into helping Kobe become who he was the most, wasn't even able to have a decent relationship with Kobe and his family or even get anything in return monetary from their love and support. My husband grew up a couple blocks away from Jellybean and saw him bring Kobe as a young child into the neighborhood to play basketball once they moved back to the Philly area in Lower Merion, PA after living with his dad in Italy where he played professional basketball, that's how Kobe became fluent in Italian. And I know there will be some that say well that's not Kobe's fault. Well, you're right, it isn't but he made sure he took care of Vanessa's mother and extended family very well when he was alive. Look how Vanessa totally cut them off once he died, there is definitely something to her character which is a facade to me‼️
Sometimes the parents always say that they want the best for their children and neglect themselves which I think is wrong, you should never be disappointed with them because if you do not go beyond the call of duty and they do it themselves, you would not feel bad but when you give it your all for them to be so ungrateful, it hurts as a human being.
yes is was she did the same thing when Kobe died Gigi was very close with his parents and she act like everything is all about her and like her kids are just robots she controls
Kempire, the rumors are true. Kobe did not hide the fact that he and his parents had a contentious relationship. His parents did not want him to marry Vanessa so young, and they advised him not to marry her without a prenup. They famously did not attend Kobe's wedding. Kobe told that story several times in interviews. Kobe bought the parents a house and his mother didn't like it. Kobe said she thought the house was too cheap. Also, Kobe said that his parents tried to sell his high school memorabilia. He got his lawyers involved to stop the sale. The parents ended up selling it after Kobe died. They got less than a million dollars for it. I always felt bad for Kobe because he said, after winning one of his championships, that the only thing better than the trophy would be having his dad beside him. I wish they could have worked things out before Kobe died. I am not sure, but I think I heard that they did not come to Kobe's memorial service either.
There are pictures of Kobe and his father right by his side after winning championships. Come on. Unlike you, l read both sides to this story from all angles.
@@Strawberry-co2iiHe wasn’t there when Kobe won all of his championships. He wasn’t there for Kobe’s last game either or when his jerseys were retired. They were estranged.
@@lynne709 He raised him and supported him at games since he was a child and an adult. He would not have been at all championships since there were periods of estrangement. He told Kobe that even if he fails at basketball, he will still love him regardless. There is a clip of Kobe saying this. But guess who would not have loved a broke Kobe?
I feel like by now, if Vanessa really did anything that was that terrible to warrant alienation from her in-laws, we would’ve heard it. Personally, unless it was something serious like an insane amount of disrespect, or they were a criminal. There isn’t much of anything you could do to alienate me from my child, their spouse and their kids. Your children are people who make their own decisions. They don’t need to choose a spouse that appeases you. The only thing a child owes you is to go out there and live their life on their own terms.
The fact that Vanessa has a good relationship with Kobe’s sister is telling. If you have beef with my parents, you have beef with me too. If Kobe’s sister is able to get along with Vanessa, she must not think Vanessa is responsible for the estrangement.
I’m so glad you mentioned Ashanti because he has been obsessed with her and bashing her in the press for years and he was very loud when she was with Nelly the first time. Plus I don’t know if you ever watched Growing Up Hip Hop New York but the way both he and his ex wife talked about her and the way the ex wife blamed her for their divorce and for leaving during the federal trial was very weird. Plus I think Ashanti has said herself that Irv would force her to do certain things for her music so this is not surprising to me at all. The way he talks in public I’m sure there’s a lot more with him that we don’t know.
Not surprised about Irv because Ashanti was still so young, very controlling and a creep. I think he was also using a lot of drugs bragged about xtc with Ashanti.
He died from a broken heart still!
Yes, that's is young. I turned 70 on the 8th of this month. God Bless the Bryant family. ❤❤❤
@elviracheeks3552. Happy belated birthday! No 70 is not old, however many don’t make it. Especially these younger people they’re killing each other rapidly b/c “They not like us” I’m turning 75 in October! Bless you Elvira.❤
@@elviriacheeks3552 Belated Happy Birthday and many more!
Yes, Kempire 69yrs old is young. I'll turn 60 this year and l refuse to say that's old. RIP Joe Bryant! Love your reporting ❤❤❤❤
Happy 60th early Birthday 🎂 🎉I hope you have a wonderful day
@@olikiahill260 Thank you so much
Very well said.
I'm 35 and I feel old 😂 I guess I'm not old then 😁 Happy early birthday 🎂
@@JesusisKing03 Thank you and you're a baby.
Vanessa Bryant's mother filed a lawsuit against her. I saw an interview with Vanessa's mother, who claimed that Vanessa attempted to reclaim the house and cars that Kobe had bought for her, even though Vanessa doesn't need the money. If she's capable of doing this to her own mother, it's not shocking what she did to Kobe's.
Bingo
@@Iridescent602 Her mother was mad greedy though. Right after Kobe died, her mother was doing interviews about how she was promised this and that and never got what she wanted. Call me crazy, but I'd expect parents to be a comfort for their child at a time like that, not come trying to collect what they can.
@@Iridescent602 she literally got like 16M because the cop shared pictures of the deceased. I think she was justified but 16M is insane. Most rich people will sue for 1$ to make a point, that the lawsuit is about the principle and not an attempt to get money. For example, Gwenyth Paltrow
@@HighMaintenanceMinimalist exactly, who goes on an interview and bashes your own daughter, and file a lawsuit.
@@Iridescent602 u have to ask what her mother has done to her in order for her to take these actions. I don't think her mother has been kind to her.
Losing a child takes years off of your life
🎯 I'm sure Kobe's very sudden death took a toll on his father. A 💔 can take you on out of this world.
Agreed. Losing Kobe clearly took its toll. VB attitude has been a thorn in the side of that family from the git go from the very beginning. It's sad. She could have matured and risen above the mess after all the years and even before Kobe died. Oh well, he pissed away his nuclear family. He's gone now, now the patriarch with the family name is gone. What a tragic story. Was hoping Joe and his wife Pam and the sisters would have done a documentary and a book, don't know why they didn't !
@@kimwalter8753 The whole family seems to be a bit of a mess. It’s been said that the sisters aren’t that close to the parents either…and Vanessa has issues with her mom. It’s very strange. All that outward success yet all this family turmoil.
I believe this about Irv based on his behavior towards Ashanti
Creepy af!
100%
Yup
His is done. 50cent will finish him.....😂
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R.I.P Mr. Bryant 🫶🏾🙏🏾😢
Rest in Heaven Joe Jellybean Bryant. Blessings to the family 🙏🏾
He wasn’t just Kobe’s father; he was their children’s grandfather. It was disgusting on how Vanessa didn’t even let his parents speak at his memorial service. She’s trifling. Kobe was their son. I felt so bad for his parents during this time. The only person who even acknowledged his parents at the memorial was Shaquille O’Neal. Pure disrespect from everyone towards them. I pray God rest their soul 🙏🏿
If you don't have anything good to say, SAY LESS, it appeared heartless to me, it wouldn't surprise me about Irv, I agree with you, the way he talked about Ashanti was crazy 😮
If she said nothing people still would have said she was heartless. You usually can’t win.
And I just got to the part where kemp read the statement. It seemed fine 🤷🏾♀️
I agree statement is cold. Sometimes it's best to not say anything
Cold and uncaring.
@@p.s.706yes what you said .
Rest in peace Joe Bryant
Kobe didn't love her parents enough to make sure they didn't struggle, but he made sure vanessa mother was well taken care of.
Paul, I Ephesians said honor your Father and Mother , so that it may go well with you may enjoy life on earth. Too bad his child
I never knew all this about Kobe's Dad. I can believe he could have died from a broken heart. Thats crazy now two widows. She really should bond with his Mom. She lost her son and husband 😢😢😢
Even if she has nothing to do with his folks, the children should have a relationship with them.
The mother lost her son and husband. I'm sure she is going through it.
Vanessa doesn't deal with her own family Vanessa mom Sued her daughter
his mom doesn't need the fake energy
Aww, Kobe. I still 😭😭 thinking about when my youngest told me he passed. One of those days you remember where you were. Plus his beautiful baby. RIP the Bryant’s. Heartbreaking again 🙏🏽
Honor thy father and mother
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True Kobe Parent's Are NOT Vanessa Parent's She Need To Made Peace W.Her Morher
You know what? Kobe Bryant parents shouldn’t be struggling financially, because they were probably working so hard to make their son’ dream came true. For her to treat them that way, personally, I found it too harsh. Now, you are enjoying your lifestyle, knowing well that you can afford to support them. God doesn’t like ugly.
They shouldn’t be struggling because Kobe’s Dad was in the NBA and had his own money….your kids shouldn’t be expected to take care of you, it’s the other way around. They did their job. Why do they have their hands out?
That part 💯 correct
@@TDoubleYuYour exactly right he'll you can't take it with you all them millions and want even help out his parents shame Shame on her I just couldn't have all that money and not help out his family !!
@@TDoubleYuyes!!! I hate that mentality that some parents have. People don’t realize the added pressure of a young adult child that has to take on that burden when the parents could’ve prepared themselves financially to care for themselves. That’s a very selfish mindset.
@@honeywest39j95 They said the dad helped him to get where he was in the NBA but im going to say this if they were struggling i would never let mine struggle whether they put up a nest egg or not. Smh
It's never too late to make things right Vanessa Bryant. Pam could certainly use your authentic support both spiritually and financially. Karma is real
She s evil AF
Karma is real
Say that again!! She has lost both of the men in her life!! I would have taken this time to go lift that woman up
@@michelet1287EXACTLY!!!
@@michelet1287 absolutely!!!
That lil witch wont do it cause she still upset cause his parents never approved of her cause for 1 she was underage 2 she was latina and 3 she was a video girl…
In the end, Vanessa Bryant will be left holding a bag full of money with no family or friends left to enjoy it with. "If greed was a person"... 😡
Lol her kids still love her
Amen ❤
@@travishylton6976did her kids tell you that ?
It’s possible they would’ve been fine if she had said nothing
No. She needed to kepp the message short.
SMDH Vanessa could had been a bit more compassion regardless of who or what the situation could be! After all if it wasn't for Joe & his wife Vanessa wouldn't be enjoying the lifestyles that she is living & family over everything. Do better Vanessa
They treated her like shit their entire marriage and urged kobe not to marry her, cutting off people that don’t wish you well should be practiced more. The delusion yall live in is nuts
@@honeybqweenbut so did Kobe didn't he cheat on her the entire marriage she just wanted that bag and she got it thanks to her mother because she was going to divorce him during the rape case because she found out right after the press conference he had another girl on the side her mother told her to stay pass the ten years mark and he still cheated so she should have that same energy to Kobe as she do his parents
It's so good to see you back in the studio Kempire. The camera looks great! The statement from Vanessa feels like it should be for an Uncle of Kobe instead of his father but it just confirms they didn't have a close relationship. I hope she and his mother can reconcile for the children's sake.
They won't
No statement would’ve been better then what she made
I agree….
💯
She could have left out though the times we spent together were few. Unnecessary. Just acknowledge his passing and express condolences. Without him there is no kobe. They gave him an exceptional, rare childhood for a black male.
Just petty and evil on her part. A complete B
Irv gives off creepy vibes!!🤢
He gives off mentally ill to me
Always.
And super aggressive
Rest in Peace Joe “Jellybean” Bryant 🙏🏽🕊️🏀
I very clearly remember an interview in which Joe Bryant stated about his and his wife's estrangement from Kobe, "One day, he'll understand why we are doing this." It sounded clearly to be an admission that his parents pulled away from him. Not the other way around. The details and specificities have never been spoken of in-depth publicly; but, so many people have criticized Vanessa and even Kobe when his parents were also rather imperfect individuals.
Thank you. The commenters act as if all in laws are wonderful people. Why is it Vanessa’s responsibility to have a relationship Kobe didn’t have when he was living?
I would back away from my son if he was dating a minor while he was 23 years old. 🤷🏾♀️ Vanessa’s mother tried to get him in trouble for rape but decided that them getting married would be more profitable……why wouldn’t his parents have a problem with that?
@@jasmineartis5754 They were married for almost 20 years and had 4 children. Everything you stated was irrelevant. Kobe was a grown man and made a choice.
She took their son away and the highest power took her daughter away. She’s been WARNED already.
How Kobe was a grown man
I agree, Kobe allowed it though
vanessa is cold.and greedy.
H.mmmmm....
It shows.
Spouse comes first
Vanessa has no obligation
@@ralphangel561she should’ve never said anything then tf
Vanessa is a horrible person yall need to Wake up
Yep! She's responsible for much worse and people have no idea SMH.
We all know Kobe was no saint. If he wanted his wife to be close to his parents, he would've made it happen. They both have f%cked up relationships with their family.
Why is she horrible? Didn’t Kobe himself cut his parents off? He held a press conference about his parents stealing his memorabilia. That’s all Kobe. If he himself cut them off why are we expecting his wife to all of a sudden have a relationship with them that he didn’t have. Kobe never seemed like someone who could be manipulated. He chose to go straight to the NBA, get married at a young age, unfortunately made the choice to cheat on his wife when he did. That’s all Kobe! So why is Vanessa being blamed for decisions Kobe made.
@@okletstalk1372 team Vanessa
@Wordplay80 this is before all of that When he was going to go professional, it was a very long time ago, but I remember his parents wanted him to focus on his game and also be with a black woman to create a black family.Vanessa was a video girl
Horrible statement! That man is still her father in law, and granddad to her late husband kids! Not surprised since they weren’t acknowledged at their own sons’s funeral!
Kobe didn't have a good relationship with his parents so why should she??
@@ralphangel561 we will never know the true status of Kobe and his parents relationship but at the end of the day Kobe is gone and now his dad is too. The same energy and effort it too to write that message could have been used to write something more tasteful IMO!
I Agree 💯; Vanessa Bryant should try to make Amends with Kobes Family, Life is too short ; Condolences to Joe Bryant's Family 🙏❤🙏💐🙏
Parents Should Has Made Peace W. Vanessa Gradkids
Remember Ashanti said she took a break from Music because of him. I can imagine the abuse from dealing with him. SMH...
That statement was giving, ignorant, arrogant, and out of touch. She needs to do right by his family and make amends with his mother. You only got one life to live, make it right. Prayers to the Kobe Family.
@@arteshaLeAnn sad thing she don't mess with her mother either! Guess what she has daughters and they are learning to minimize and be dismissive of your parents! Soooo when they repeat what she taught them.....
@@michelet1287 it’s really disappointing and unfortunate.
It’s not Vanessa’s responsibility to do what Kobe refused to do when he was alive. He kept his parents at arms length for a reason.
@@lynne709Kobe cheating on Vanessa for a reason to he was not perfect as y'all make him out to be the Bible say put no one over your parents
@@lynne709She already received 1 warning from the man upstairs.
69 is young! Condolences to the family ❤
I think a lot of these industry men behave that way. The environment seems to foster it and protect them.
I do believe the statement was very cold and Vanessa should make things right between her and the rest of Kobe's family life is too short
She has that KOBE money and they say money is the root of all evil and hate. She probably doesn’t share nothing! 😂
We don't know what happened. It doesn't matter if those are her children's grandparents. They might not be good people.
Those people may have told her they wish it was her instead of her son. We should stay out of it. May father & son rest in peace
I think Vanessa still have a relationship with his sisters. She just bought one of Kobe sisters a car.
@Jerome-hk1np. This resonate with me too. I thought I saw reports, alleged of course, that Vanessa was not being kind to her MIL. 😢 she also had alleged cutthroat behavior with wives of the other Lakers players. I don’t know but it would be not cool if she’s being petty to his parents. These sports legends need to setup a Trust to protect their parents or children financially just in case.
The statement seemed appropriate to me. They didn’t have a relationship and she was respectful of their hurt. Having children with someone doesn’t mean you’re close to their family. People often want to rewrite history when someone dies. I respect her statement.
69 is young
I think Vanessa acts like a real B!!
Exactly!! She better remember her kids will be married one day. Karma is a bitch
Snow Bunny which Dr Umar talks about. She’s been very unkind to those parents since his death even just out of decency she could have done better than what has been reported.
I think she is. N I wish the black community take their support from her
@@MakingKihappyhopefully she won’t be like Kobe’s parents and judge her kid’s partners by their race…
@@TDoubleYu who said it was about her race? Who would want their adult child who was on the rise in their career to be with a high schooler? Many level headed people would object to that. They didn’t know the family and they didn’t know her.
That statement was super impersonal and very blahzay, like sorry you’re dead🙃 it was cold
Vanessa, save all the fakeness. I wouldn't dare let her any where near the funeral.
@@bm9275 she probably doesn’t want to go
@@lynne709she gives me jodie arias vibes
Vanessa was always arrogant and greedy. Kobe bless her with a blissful and happy life. A real wife would have fix it before he departed this earth. The children have two sets of grandparents. I am still mad that Vanessa did not let his parents speak at the celebration. So sad. God please lift up his wife and sisters.❤
At the end of the dsy he is still her children's grandfather. Do better Vanessa or stay quiet, this statement ain't it. IMO
Oh well she said it and ain’t nobody gone do nothing about it.
Who the hell are you to tell someone what to say about THEIR situation? Social media has really made people delusional
I don’t think those children really know them. Sadly, Kobe and his parents had been estranged for many years. 🤷🏽♀️
@@TDoubleYugirl shut up 😂
So sad to hear about Kobe's dad, my heart goes out to his wife, daughter & grandkids. I'm not going paint Kobe's parents as villains in Vanessa's story just because she didn't get along with them. She's his widow so I'll keep it cute but she was not a sweet innocence, angel when he was alive.
If she didnt have sex with him , he would send her home!! Why wouldnt she just go home?? He gave her that choice.
I came here to write this. That was her out. She's lucky he offered to do that and not just kick her out from wherever they were. (And really - did she think he flew her out there to talk about her car's warranty?)
You hit the nail on the head! I was coming to type this very comment.
Exactly
Same. I wonder aboutthe context. Because if she was a video girl for example that could be problematic cause she would have been labeled hard to work with
@@hao9508And???
Yeah, Vanessa's statement is... telling.😬 Seems something happened long ago. But I know from personal experience that relationships between in-laws can start rocky & just get worse. It is what it is.
Wow Vanessa, you would think after losing a child and spouse her heart would be softened.
If he was nice, everything they were together, what was the issue with the children not visiting the grandparents? Then we have folks saying Vanessa gets alone with the sister. Why wrong with the children visiting the grandparents?
That part sis! I never under this. But I put that on Kobe!
S.I.P JOE BRYANT
Kobes family wanted him to marry a black woman To create a strong black family
Yes, perhaps, but they got over it. When asked by the media, Joe said it is Kobe's life to live how he wants.
all his sisters listened but him I guess he felt he was to good to be with a black woman he had plenty in highschool it's just sad
Or at least give him a strong (and tall) Black son to carry his NBA legacy.
@@lovegodschild1430He was surrounded by nothing but white folks in high school. And Kobe NEVER said he was too good for black women. He was dating Brandy and he was rumored to be dating Tyra Banks too I think
Honestly, that Vanessa isn't close to his family is really Kobe's fault. It was his responsibility to ensure that his family was tight with his wife and (or at least) kids. He clearly didn't foster that relationship, so why would Vanessa try after Kobe's death? Just my two cents.
It says a lot about her character. She should have insisted. I have known women who were not particularly close to their in-laws but they made sure that the kids had a relationship with them. When you are gone, the kids will know they have a family that they already know and can be around.
@@elle535 The fact is, you don't know that she didn't insist. You don't know what happened between them; none of us do. At the end of the day, an individual is the one responsible for bridging relationships between their parents and their children, it's not their spouse's job to do that.
Very cold , and it’s really confirms the state of their relationship or lack thereof
My profound condolences to Mrs. Bryant, Kobe's sisters, his children, and the remaining family members. I will light a candle and say a special prayer for Mr. Bryant when I go to mass. May God grant eternal rest to Mr. Joe Bryant. Let us see if Vanessa will encourage her children to attend their grandfather's funeral mass. What many of Kobe's fans do know is that he was in the process of divorcing Vanessa when he tragically died. The lesson here is always be on top of your will preparation, regardless of how busy you are. Any man who is divorcing a woman never plans to giving her all of his assets. Rest in power Mr. Joe Bryant.
No he wasn't.
Thanks Rae, appreciate it.
Kobe's parents were against him marrying her. Kobe had a falling out over this far awhile. The statement is true. What do you want.
Kobe taught Vanessa how to treat his parents. This was his doing thats the sad part!
Vanessa and her family BENEFITTED the most from that man's heritage and hard work, she's darn near a billionaire thanks to him and his wife, and has been feeling herself ever since. Dr Umar talks bad about her, she does not care tho
RIP Joe jellybean Bryant were from my neck of the woods , we were in high school the same time & yes 69 is young. Without Joe & Pam there would not be a Kobe, Vanessa should be a shame of herself. As a parent they felt that he should not have gotten married so young, most parents feel that way .
He died and didn’t even speak to his grandchildren that’s so sad
Yessss 🙏🏾😢♥️
you don't know that
Your father in law..she is full of it....KARMA WILL CATCH UP WITH HER.
RIP Joe Bryant. May he reunite with his son and granddaughter on the other side.
If there was no relationship, Vanessa could have kept her statement.
Yes that statement is cold as hell that's why i wanted to hear what Vanessa own mother had to say about her ass in her in tell all book but we will never know since she paid off her own mother stop her from spilling her secret to the whole world people Vanessa ain't innocent if you all would have heard what her stepdad said how her mother groom her to get with Kobe and dump the boy that she was already dating innocent you just don't pay someone off not to do a tell all book about you if you are innocent
I hear she was still seeing that boy and he crash Kobe expensive car and Kobe still married her after that and people be mad his parents didn't like her I wouldn't have as well no matter what color she was Kobe use to date nice educated women before Vanessa that got along fine with his parents just sad all the way around
Im gonna need for yall to remember that Kobe had fell out with his parents before he passed. She made the statement for her children so we’ll leave it at that. Its not up to Vanessa to do anything but she did for her children.
If he fell out with his parents what has that got to do with her?
She should’ve stayed quiet then
I believe when they first got married, the parents didn’t like her, so I don’t know how good a relationship they had with Vanessa
Like really didn't like her like I thought he & his parents MUTUALLY disowned each other. V should've given both his parents & her parents @ least 30 mil each just because she would make that back in interest in a few years. She inherited a 600000 million dollar estate successfully sued Nike & the LAPD I hope his dad's passing had nothing to do with healthcare costs cuz that would just be DEAD WRONG!
@@Itsmesnitches123That money isn’t hers. It’s in trust. Vanessa and the girls receive payments from the trust to support their lifestyle. When Vanessa dies, the trust will dissolve and an equal share of the funds will be released to each of the surviving daughters.
Kobe dad try to like her for his grandkids and Kobe mom loved gigi but when they sold the memorabilia that Kobe and Vanessa said they didn't want they was not allowed to see his kids anymore sad because Kobe couldn't take them sluts or the money or memorabilia with him when he left her so non of it mattered
The idea that Vanessa needs to be more concerned with Kobe's parents than he was when he was alive is ludicrous! He fell out with his parents ages ago because they didn't agree with his marriage to Vanessa. Kobe's parents never apologized for their behavior or reconciled with their son before his passing. IMO, what Vanessa was more than enough. Had she said nothing, the public would have dragged her. In the public's eye, she is wrong no matter what she does. It's sad that the public doesn't hold Kobe's parents to the same standard.
She is a known gold digger
R. I.P Mr. Bryant 🙏🏽🙏🏽😢
He had to choose between his family or his wife and her family it’s so on so many levels, Vanessa is so full of it smh 🤦🏾♀️… He took care of Vanessa whole entire family… And left his’s out to dry because of her… It’s a lot of layers to this story…
I agree. The statement is very cold.
Everyone blaming Vanessa , need to blame Kobe tbh , the way he treated his parents is the way Vanessa continued to treat his parents. Its that simple if he made sure his parents were priority, she would have no choice but to make his parents priority. Kobe had a tumultuous relationship with his parents too
Rest In Peace Mr. Bryant !
Vanessa statement isn’t sincere at all. The backstory on Kobe’s relationship with his parents stems from Vanessa being underage and Vanessa’s mother was trying to blackmail Kobe and forced Kobe to marry Vanessa with them being so young. And that is why Kobe and his parents have a strain relationship they were just trying to protect him. Let’s be clear Kobe cheated on Vanessa with the alleged woman that he raped in Colorado and it was settled out of court (victim was paid off) and Kobe bought Vanessa 1M ring during the trail because Vanessa was going to clean him dry because he cheated. I don’t trust Vanessa whatsoever and Vanessa’s mother created the conflict with Kobe and his parents
It's cold... and Kobe created that dynamics...... Kobe did and she continued it. The ego is real.....
Damn irv can’t catch a break, first Ashanti has her second baby shower now this? Irv looks like the type!!! The way he went in on him and Ashanti physical relationship made me cringe
People need to leave her alone. We have no idea how they treated her and Kobe. She’s being judged harshly with very little information
Grim Reaper working overtime.
RIP Joe Bryant and Jacoby Jones
This tension didn’t start after Kobe died. We heard about this years ago when they first got married. If they didn’t get along no need for her act otherwise 🤷🏽♀️
Yep it was a contentious relationship all round - sad !😔
but she act like she didn't have kids with this man to whom are his grandkids and they did have a relationship with his she is a lie human being
As a Kobe fan, I've never liked Vanessa. This statement demonstrates that I was right. Who gives a shady post about one of your children’s grandparents after they passed away? Just tacky
@kempire , Kobe had a very strained relationship with his parents so although he may have loved his father, they were not very close for many years including up until his death, as a result of his parents not wanting him to get married to Vanessa because they were both very young. There was also drama regarding his parents being upset that Kobe wasn’t financially supporting them in the way they expected. In fact, his Dad Joe actually sold Kobe’s first championship ring and many other very valuable and one of a kind memorabilia soon after his death.
Now Vanessa, is a fellow Taurus and one thing about us Taurus is we are loyal to a fault so I can understand why her statement may have seemed cold to someone who is not familiar with the situation. She stood by her husband’s decision to have limited contact/relationship with her in-laws and as you know, just because folks may be “family,” doesn’t mean you are close or need to put up appearances for the public. I mean, sis cut off her own mother for trying to extort money from her daughters after her husband died - Vanessa don’t play!
Taurus or not she sounds like a simple selfish control freak. By the sounds of it - it was her making that decision for her husband.
I believe Vanessa said enough. She didnt reallly know that man.
she set and ate at his table before Kobe decided to keep them separated to keep the peace
Kobe didn't invite his wife to his sister wedding he cheated a lot in that marriage he was just trying to protect his family images because that what his agent told him if he lose his family images he will lose money and fans
No Kemure.. it was the part you said Vsnessa said ".. Sad that things have ended the way they did between us" .. or didnt rnd well.. something to those affects
Kobe was estranged from his parents both emotionally and financially long b4 he died in the crash. They did not approve of his marriage and did not attend the wedding.I can only imagine what was said b4 and since then that would have caused this.
Shame that man died and that girl didn't acknowledge them. He made her his wife, though. I'm done with that one. 🙄. No kobe dad. No kobe.
If she would have said nothing, y’all would have had something to say. She said, what she said. Let’s remember we know nothing about these people and their lives.
I believe everything that's said about Irv
Irv is a creep, the predatory behaviour he bragged about and bitterness of the end results he had in that interview when in reality ashanti was19-22 and irv was 37 and married.
Rip Joseph Washington and Kobe Bean Bryant, you will be missed
They never liked Vanessa. Kobe & his parents weren’t getting along before he passed. What she did was more than enough
Exactly! They didn't like her so they weren't close
I still think she could have done better without his parents there wouldn't have been a kobe .respect your elders are yall familiar with that phrase !!
@@MichelleDavis-dc5pqThat’s bullshit. Some of these elders are disrespectful af. Sorry, I give the same energy you give.
@@MsRose00 I don't give a d**n you still surpose to respect your elders and that's how I was raised I'm sorry it's just facts
@@MsRose00💯
Sorry, but Vanessa's statement was fair to me. I don't find anything cold about it. Personally, I wouldn't say anything about a person dying that I wasn't speaking with. There have been family members that have died and we weren't speaking. I didn't say anything and I didn't attend the funeral but I did have closure. I did forgive. Maybe she should have kept quiet but still the public would've dragged her. She can't win
It not about her at all.
It was disgusting. Don't clout chase off somebody's dead
Oh, now he's your father-in-law girl. Your children have never met their grandchildren. For her to speak out is despicable 😒
@@oaklandbarbie8853She doesn’t need to clout chase. She’s the widow of one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
@lynne709 You would think that, huh? That's why Nike wanted to partner with her after he passed away. They dumped her immediately. Kobe was the star. She was just a gold digging 304 that came between him and his parents, but go off sis
RIP Jellybean💛 I know we should be focusing on Jellybean's life, but it is just so sad how their relationship was damaged because of Vanessa and she not only caused it, she encouraged it! I used to temporarily live near his paternal grandparents' home where they lived and died and the street and living conditions were deplorable to have Kobe as a grandson. The whole block (street) had mostly condemned homes. It used to hurt me to go past that neighborhood and know that the people that truly loved and invested into helping Kobe become who he was the most, wasn't even able to have a decent relationship with Kobe and his family or even get anything in return monetary from their love and support. My husband grew up a couple blocks away from Jellybean and saw him bring Kobe as a young child into the neighborhood to play basketball once they moved back to the Philly area in Lower Merion, PA after living with his dad in Italy where he played professional basketball, that's how Kobe became fluent in Italian. And I know there will be some that say well that's not Kobe's fault. Well, you're right, it isn't but he made sure he took care of Vanessa's mother and extended family very well when he was alive. Look how Vanessa totally cut them off once he died, there is definitely something to her character which is a facade to me‼️
Sometimes the parents always say that they want the best for their children and neglect themselves which I think is wrong, you should never be disappointed with them because if you do not go beyond the call of duty and they do it themselves, you would not feel bad but when you give it your all for them to be so ungrateful, it hurts as a human being.
Vanessa's statement wasn't cold. She was direct and shared her experiences.
I agree with you!!!!
It’s not about her.
yes is was she did the same thing when Kobe died Gigi was very close with his parents and she act like everything is all about her and like her kids are just robots she controls
Rest In Peace Joe don’t know what it’s like afterwards but hope you Kobe and your granddaughter get together, 8:34
Kempire, the rumors are true. Kobe did not hide the fact that he and his parents had a contentious relationship. His parents did not want him to marry Vanessa so young, and they advised him not to marry her without a prenup. They famously did not attend Kobe's wedding. Kobe told that story several times in interviews. Kobe bought the parents a house and his mother didn't like it. Kobe said she thought the house was too cheap. Also, Kobe said that his parents tried to sell his high school memorabilia. He got his lawyers involved to stop the sale. The parents ended up selling it after Kobe died. They got less than a million dollars for it. I always felt bad for Kobe because he said, after winning one of his championships, that the only thing better than the trophy would be having his dad beside him. I wish they could have worked things out before Kobe died. I am not sure, but I think I heard that they did not come to Kobe's memorial service either.
Please, do a proper internet search and get your facts right. It is really not that difficult.
There are pictures of Kobe and his father right by his side after winning championships. Come on. Unlike you, l read both sides to this story from all angles.
@@Strawberry-co2iiHe wasn’t there when Kobe won all of his championships. He wasn’t there for Kobe’s last game either or when his jerseys were retired. They were estranged.
@@lynne709 He raised him and supported him at games since he was a child and an adult. He would not have been at all championships since there were periods of estrangement. He told Kobe that even if he fails at basketball, he will still love him regardless. There is a clip of Kobe saying this. But guess who would not have loved a broke Kobe?
@@Strawberry-co2ii Kobe wouldn’t have loved Vanessa if she was ugly so I think they’re even
I feel like by now, if Vanessa really did anything that was that terrible to warrant alienation from her in-laws, we would’ve heard it. Personally, unless it was something serious like an insane amount of disrespect, or they were a criminal. There isn’t much of anything you could do to alienate me from my child, their spouse and their kids. Your children are people who make their own decisions. They don’t need to choose a spouse that appeases you.
The only thing a child owes you is to go out there and live their life on their own terms.
The fact that Vanessa has a good relationship with Kobe’s sister is telling. If you have beef with my parents, you have beef with me too. If Kobe’s sister is able to get along with Vanessa, she must not think Vanessa is responsible for the estrangement.
The statement from Vanessa is ice cold
Kobe’s parents didn’t fool with tht white lady at all but he chose her anyways. Her statement proves why. RIP Mr. Bryant
Rest in peace, Mr
Bryant your son and granddaughter are waiting for you😢
I’m so glad you mentioned Ashanti because he has been obsessed with her and bashing her in the press for years and he was very loud when she was with Nelly the first time. Plus I don’t know if you ever watched Growing Up Hip Hop New York but the way both he and his ex wife talked about her and the way the ex wife blamed her for their divorce and for leaving during the federal trial was very weird. Plus I think Ashanti has said herself that Irv would force her to do certain things for her music so this is not surprising to me at all. The way he talks in public I’m sure there’s a lot more with him that we don’t know.
Not surprised about Irv because Ashanti was still so young, very controlling and a creep. I think he was also using a lot of drugs bragged about xtc with Ashanti.
65 is young. In laws are a special folk. They feel entitled but they don't make you priority.