Hi friends! While we are focusing on drums in this video, this practice method can be used for all instruments. For personal guidance with practice session designs please join me on the lesson site! www.pmlessons.philmaturano.com/join-us/ Initially developed at PIT in its peak years with all the greatest legendary players around, this was part of the main practice routines for all instruments. I perfected it and made modifications you see here to maximize efficiency. It can be applied to any instrument by using scales, arpeggios or whatever task you are working on in the in the 15 minute segments of the method. Enjoy and thank you for watching :-)
On the 29th January 2023 I started to write down every bit of drumming that I do in a notebook, whether that's pad work, kit practice, rehearsal, play alongs or gigging. I log how long I spend doing each thing and then I keep an overall hourly/weekly/monthly log. It's definitely been addictive for me (more than drumming already was!) and I've been a lot less aimless in my drumming and I have definitely seen great results from it so far in terms of how I perform live. However, I have had the nagging feeling that I have also been missing something, and that what I am doing is a well intentioned but ultimately half baked step in the right direction. I think that you've just provided me with an answer that I knew I was looking for, but didn't know what question to ask. I can't thank you enough Phil. Your channel is a wealth of gold standard information and I am spreading the word to anybody who will listen. See you on the lesson site in the new year. Peace and goodwill to you.
Man that is awesome bro! The dedication you have is something very special and I hope you know that! Looking forward to seeing you playing all the material from the site very soon! Big hugs from Bali!
@@philmaturanodrums I spent my youth aimlessly messing around and I don't have any particular talent on drums, but I do have a talent for dedicating myself to improvement, and that's what I tell people. Any improvement that you can make is never too little and never too late if you're in it for the love of it. If you want to see my playing now I have a couple of videos from a gig I did with my prog band earlier this year, I won't hijack your thread by posting them here without your permission though.
Hey Phil, Hi from South Africa! Thank you for the clear and helpful guidance which has influenced my practice significantly. I would like to say your playing in between is superb, simply beautiful and a delight to my ears! Keep on Rollin''!
Excellent as always! I appreciate the old school writing. BTW - I open and close the markers constantly when I use them. Too funny. I’ve used a practice journal system for decades and recommend it to my students. “Continue on” (chuckle). And the journey continues…..
It's similar to how I'm doing things, I used to have a white board. But now i have set routines that cover a lot of ground and are a fixed list,it's to give a lot of repetition in set sub sets that covers variations of similar shared moves . My next issue is to spend more time linking the sub sections of practice as some of them are becoming good in isolation but I haven't been mixing them up enough, triplet limb permutations running in and out of 16th permutations of limbs. I'm having to build a new subgroup practice to cover that linking up problem. There are a bunch of moves that don't link well into each other as it's several limb hits in a row or flipping to left lead as the outcome. Ways of escaping these situations is an art in its self . I've always been aware that the mass of stuff to practice is vast . Mike mangine goes into this topic and expanded it to cover time per week and month planing to where fit practice realistically around your life . Then went into the combinations of what to practice( but way too vast as some combinations of limbs never happen musically ) Thomas lang also used a practice diary for years . I wasted a lot of early years practicing totally random stuff because honestly I was lost with what to do , in the 80s there wasn't anything available outside of a few books records and seeing local players that were often worse than I was . All my practice would be heading in the wrong direction without a center of time that's In myself. As a kid I'd put the center of time on the drum set ,eg hammering the hi hat was my time grid ,so you hear this type of drummer who falls to pieces in any gaps of silence. I took the time grid and placed it in to internal counting. That totally changes how you center in music. It's a mental distancing from playing rather than physically stuck to it . Great video topic this will help people for their full playing life .
@philmaturanodrums you know in the waves of the Instagram type one min of maximum flashy stuff posts the fundamentals of drums are going missing, there is a severe lack of a bridge to get people playing in the middle ground to the next steps up, it's either edited god mode solos or a few learn this beat type videos . A hell of a lot of lessons that dont seem to have any use. I found a lot of books like that too. Don't get me started on 90s "VHS drum instruction" There is very very little info being passed on about the amount of repetition needed to absorb material, I don't think people can handle being told that this could be 6 months till any of it will surface in your playing. Also missing is actual positive feed back , positive feedback to a student can really be a force for progression. I had a conversation with Marco minnemann in 1997 where he explained what it feels like to be a "high level" player. He said its like sitting on top of a pyramid of everything you have built up in layers over time. the bottom layer is the biggest level to construct but the next level is easier because you have a lot of foundation material, each level is built from the levels below it and takes a little less effort to construct and by the time you get to the top layers you can pick up things very quickly because of the huge foundation and things don't take long to grasp . It seems like magic or being incredibly gifted but he's sat on a huge pyramid of development, he then joked about how much of a bitch that first layer is to put down without flaws in it . I find what players say more helpful at times than what I see them playing. How to move around the drum set and not get tangled up, playing with a band, its a vanishing art. It is making me wonder lately about what is going to be left behind by this era ? . The days of many land mark records have gone. A lot is being recorded but like with pop music it's a flood of disposable segments, actually I'd day it's" the era of segments " sound bites . I was listening to Peter Erskine the other day and he was talking for about an hour and playing very little, it was all conveying his role in music and a lot of his own errors and early choices . He said he did a lot of things at 18 that he wishes he didn't but learnt that its OK because its the type of things you do at 18 .it's a journey. you grow out of who you were back then. A lot of my early playing must have sounded like a cymbal and snare in a washing machine, I was just trying to fill everything with hip stuff . I was playing to tracks so had no pissed off band members to pull me in line . Love the video approach , it's all great honest stuff . I need that 15 million but I don't think they are going to give me it .
What a simple, methodical, and brilliant approach to practicing drums. I was resistant, because 1st and foremost, my biggest concern with formal instruction is for drumming to become like work, rather than pure fun. This will work though. Do you see any drawbacks to these circles being drawn, and tracked, in an electronic format, as opposed to pen & paper?
Hi bratha! I am very happy you liked it. It's an amazing process that has worked for thousands of drummers around the world. No problem with the electronic version as long as you are happy :-)
All depends on your drumming goals but...With this system you can reach a point where you can do things everyday and not burnout! Thats the beauty of it. :-)
I have even become overwhelmed by the amount off new material I am creating......Knowing that drumming is an infinite subject with no real end in sight, the combinations of stickings, rudiments, accents and taps, music styles, drum tones and more,......all we can do is isolate one idea at a time and internalize it. After a while, it will stick and become a useable concept....or not. Recently [ during the pandemic] I have written over 7500 new rhythmic combinations [ over 1000 pages] which all have a beautiful "flow" to them. If NO FLOW, it is a NO GO. Life is too short for stuff that simply does not flow and feel "musical." I don't need any motivation because drumming is only as boring as the level of rhythm that is being studied. If an idea is a total turn on musically and you can find a way to use it in context to a groove, it is worth repeating and folding into your bag of rhythms to be able to use. Composing music is the key to making any rhythm have some kind of usage.Simply write some music using your favorite phrases. Those rhythms will be part of your themes in your composition.
This is where I've missed it, I need to get out my notebook paper and get the circles going. Phil, if I do one circle for hand technique, and another for grooves & independence, can I alternate these two maybe every other day, or is it better to do both 1 hour circles on the same day? Any thoughts as to the scheduling of these 1 hour learning modules? Thanks Phil!!
Hi friends! While we are focusing on drums in this video, this practice method can be used for all instruments. For personal guidance with practice session designs please join me on the lesson site! www.pmlessons.philmaturano.com/join-us/
Initially developed at PIT in its peak years with all the greatest legendary players around, this was part of the main practice routines for all instruments. I perfected it and made modifications you see here to maximize efficiency. It can be applied to any instrument by using scales, arpeggios or whatever task you are working on in the in the 15 minute segments of the method. Enjoy and thank you for watching :-)
On the 29th January 2023 I started to write down every bit of drumming that I do in a notebook, whether that's pad work, kit practice, rehearsal, play alongs or gigging. I log how long I spend doing each thing and then I keep an overall hourly/weekly/monthly log. It's definitely been addictive for me (more than drumming already was!) and I've been a lot less aimless in my drumming and I have definitely seen great results from it so far in terms of how I perform live. However, I have had the nagging feeling that I have also been missing something, and that what I am doing is a well intentioned but ultimately half baked step in the right direction. I think that you've just provided me with an answer that I knew I was looking for, but didn't know what question to ask. I can't thank you enough Phil. Your channel is a wealth of gold standard information and I am spreading the word to anybody who will listen. See you on the lesson site in the new year. Peace and goodwill to you.
Man that is awesome bro! The dedication you have is something very special and I hope you know that! Looking forward to seeing you playing all the material from the site very soon! Big hugs from Bali!
@@philmaturanodrums I spent my youth aimlessly messing around and I don't have any particular talent on drums, but I do have a talent for dedicating myself to improvement, and that's what I tell people. Any improvement that you can make is never too little and never too late if you're in it for the love of it. If you want to see my playing now I have a couple of videos from a gig I did with my prog band earlier this year, I won't hijack your thread by posting them here without your permission though.
@elvislegg8634 hahaha. Send the links to my email phil@philmaturano.com
Hey Phil, Hi from South Africa! Thank you for the clear and helpful guidance which has influenced my practice significantly. I would like to say your playing in between is superb, simply beautiful and a delight to my ears! Keep on Rollin''!
Thank you so much! It really means a lot to hear it's been helpful. And I truly appreciate the kind words about the playing.
Genius stuff Phil, big thanks to you man!!!
Right on bro. Many greetings to you :)
Excellent as always! I appreciate the old school writing. BTW - I open and close the markers constantly when I use them. Too funny. I’ve used a practice journal system for decades and recommend it to my students. “Continue on” (chuckle). And the journey continues…..
Haha! I do that too! The journey is never-ending, we are all just learning!
It's similar to how I'm doing things, I used to have a white board. But now i have set routines that cover a lot of ground and are a fixed list,it's to give a lot of repetition in set sub sets that covers variations of similar shared moves .
My next issue is to spend more time linking the sub sections of practice as some of them are becoming good in isolation but I haven't been mixing them up enough, triplet limb permutations running in and out of 16th permutations of limbs.
I'm having to build a new subgroup practice to cover that linking up problem.
There are a bunch of moves that don't link well into each other as it's several limb hits in a row or flipping to left lead as the outcome.
Ways of escaping these situations is an art in its self .
I've always been aware that the mass of stuff to practice is vast .
Mike mangine goes into this topic and expanded it to cover time per week and month planing to where fit practice realistically around your life .
Then went into the combinations of what to practice( but way too vast as some combinations of limbs never happen musically )
Thomas lang also used a practice diary for years .
I wasted a lot of early years practicing totally random stuff because honestly I was lost with what to do , in the 80s there wasn't anything available outside of a few books records and seeing local players that were often worse than I was .
All my practice would be heading in the wrong direction without a center of time that's In myself.
As a kid I'd put the center of time on the drum set ,eg hammering the hi hat was my time grid ,so you hear this type of drummer who falls to pieces in any gaps of silence.
I took the time grid and placed it in to internal counting. That totally changes how you center in music. It's a mental distancing from playing rather than physically stuck to it .
Great video topic this will help people for their full playing life .
great post bratha! Thank you for sharing your experience! Many greetings from beautiful Bali! :-)
@philmaturanodrums you know in the waves of the Instagram type one min of maximum flashy stuff posts the fundamentals of drums are going missing, there is a severe lack of a bridge to get people playing in the middle ground to the next steps up, it's either edited god mode solos or a few learn this beat type videos . A hell of a lot of lessons that dont seem to have any use.
I found a lot of books like that too. Don't get me started on 90s "VHS drum instruction"
There is very very little info being passed on about the amount of repetition needed to absorb material, I don't think people can handle being told that this could be 6 months till any of it will surface in your playing.
Also missing is actual positive feed back , positive feedback to a student can really be a force for progression.
I had a conversation with Marco minnemann in 1997 where he explained what it feels like to be a "high level" player. He said its like sitting on top of a pyramid of everything you have built up in layers over time.
the bottom layer is the biggest level to construct but the next level is easier because you have a lot of foundation material, each level is built from the levels below it and takes a little less effort to construct and by the time you get to the top layers you can pick up things very quickly because of the huge foundation and things don't take long to grasp . It seems like magic or being incredibly gifted but he's sat on a huge pyramid of development, he then joked about how much of a bitch that first layer is to put down without flaws in it .
I find what players say more helpful at times than what I see them playing.
How to move around the drum set and not get tangled up, playing with a band, its a vanishing art.
It is making me wonder lately about what is going to be left behind by this era ? . The days of many land mark records have gone.
A lot is being recorded but like with pop music it's a flood of disposable segments,
actually I'd day it's" the era of segments " sound bites . I was listening to Peter Erskine the other day and he was talking for about an hour and playing very little, it was all conveying his role in music and a lot of his own errors and early choices . He said he did a lot of things at 18 that he wishes he didn't but learnt that its OK because its the type of things you do at 18 .it's a journey.
you grow out of who you were back then.
A lot of my early playing must have sounded like a cymbal and snare in a washing machine, I was just trying to fill everything with hip stuff . I was playing to tracks so had no pissed off band members to pull me in line .
Love the video approach , it's all great honest stuff .
I need that 15 million but I don't think they are going to give me it .
Simply brilliant!
Thank you ma man:-)
Great Phil! I love it
Right on Jonas! Many greetings! :-)
now we need all the categories haha!
@@kimseniorb we sure do hahaha
What a simple, methodical, and brilliant approach to practicing drums. I was resistant, because 1st and foremost, my biggest concern with formal instruction is for drumming to become like work, rather than pure fun. This will work though. Do you see any drawbacks to these circles being drawn, and tracked, in an electronic format, as opposed to pen & paper?
Hi bratha! I am very happy you liked it. It's an amazing process that has worked for thousands of drummers around the world. No problem with the electronic version as long as you are happy :-)
How many days in a row do you tackle a certain subject?
All depends on your drumming goals but...With this system you can reach a point where you can do things everyday and not burnout! Thats the beauty of it. :-)
I have even become overwhelmed by the amount off new material I am creating......Knowing that drumming is an infinite subject with no real end in sight, the combinations of stickings, rudiments, accents and taps, music styles, drum tones and more,......all we can do is isolate one idea at a time and internalize it. After a while, it will stick and become a useable concept....or not.
Recently [ during the pandemic] I have written over 7500 new rhythmic combinations [ over 1000 pages] which all have a beautiful "flow" to them. If NO FLOW, it is a NO GO. Life is too short for stuff that simply does not flow and feel "musical."
I don't need any motivation because drumming is only as boring as the level of rhythm that is being studied. If an idea is a total turn on musically and you can find a way to use it in context to a groove, it is worth repeating and folding into your bag of rhythms to be able to use. Composing music is the key to making any rhythm have some kind of usage.Simply write some music using your favorite phrases. Those rhythms will be part of your themes in your composition.
Great post bratha Scott! I know you know what the deal is! Sending many big hugs from Bali! Miss you!
Backatcha bro!!
This is where I've missed it, I need to get out my notebook paper and get the circles going. Phil, if I do one circle for hand technique, and another for grooves & independence, can I alternate these two maybe every other day, or is it better to do both 1 hour circles on the same day? Any thoughts as to the scheduling of these 1 hour learning modules? Thanks Phil!!
Actually this method has been on the site for years LOL. You didn't see it?
@@philmaturanodrums Yes, I did see it, but I need to do it, not just hear about it. My bad!
@@johnmckenna1776 Hahaha. Looking forward to seeing your notes on this!
Where do i collect the 50 million? 😁
@@Bill-vy3fx that’s what I want to know hahaha