11 Recent Thai BL scandals you need to know about!!!
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I wish they stop this whole fan service business with Thai BL, so unnecessary and pointless
Seriously this is too much they’re doing anything for money.
Agree
@@BLFANEDITS spot on
Unfortunately, it increases popularity and profits. It's still a business after all
I like the fan service. What I don't like is how sensitive and mean people are about every little word that comes out of their mouths. To me, it's ridiculous.
It's amazing to see that so many actors who were never allies to the communities but were actually bullies to members of the community in the past are now working in the lgbtq industry and profiting and surviving off the same people they considered lesser than.
Its really such a sad state of affairs 😞
@@BLFANEDITS Absolutely! I totally agree with your critique but this isn’t just about teenage behavior scandals it’s an ongoing problem. The cynicism in the BL industry especially especially Thailand is breathtaking and I’m sure some of them wake up everyday and realize they’ve sold their souls for financial gain not just for themselves but even more so for the production companies. I was appalled by Mews cruel statements. I found the safe house episode particularly disturbing and I’m glad that Tay didn’t laugh because he has seems like a decent guy.
I watch a lot of Korean Taiwanese and Japanese BL these days because I realized that I was complicit in supporting a system that I knew was dysfunctional and wouldn’t tolerate in other areas of my life.
@@Girl-so7yk @BL FAN EDITS What is also highly annoying is that in their apologies they don't seem to actually be remorseful about the content of their homophobic etc statements. As far as I can tell, they don't apologize for being homophobic or racist or prejudiced and don't say that the contents of their statements were actually wrong. They only apologize for upsetting people or causing discomfort to their fans.
@@00thyella00 absolutely. Their apologies are totally self serving and hollow
Why we need more gay or bi actors playing these rolls...They are more comfortable with kissing men, know how to kiss men, aren't going to bash co-workers...And I think we would get more real couples out of all these ships. Win Win for everyone. Once there are more gays in the BLs, less likely they will get picked on as they won't be such a minority in the business anymore. Strength in numbers 😉
let’s be real, most these apologies really just mean “I’m sorry I got caught” - I don’t like cancel culture but some of these guys deserve to get cancelled!
I agree so much !! Some of them are having bad words/attitude for too many years repetitively for them to feel sorry of anything Ohm, Foei, White... Lovesick was out in 2014, it's gonna be ten years and they are still the same
Gmmtv is filled with such actors oops sorry got caught, the lgbt community is ever forgiving still letting them exist
What do u expect? You want them to completely change their personality to make fans feel good? Of course it won't happen. They are ordinary people which work is acting. People need to chill out. Fans created this cancel culture to have powe rover artists but when they realize that it actually doesn't work and only makes artists lie more and give all these formal apologies, fans get furious.
@@rosewiththorns4664 I m sorry you don't have to be gay to act as a gay character for sure, but homophobic people making a career in LGBT or Bl movies should be punished. You can't spit in on the people feeding you, and I m not speaking about the fan but about the coworkers !
So many apologists here. It's gross.
Honestly if Phuwin's friend accepted the apology long ago, then there is no point on dragging it. He realized his mistake immediately and apologized on the spot.
and we all know that we ourselves while playing online games get angry at our friends but its between them and it has got nothing to do with us.
ikr man ppl will do anything for drama its annoying
12:24 The part about Gulf "focusing on his career instead of beefing with fans on a random Tuesday," had me cracking up. I love your sense of humor! 😂❤
Hahah 😂
Y3ss... Indeed Gulf is such a calm man ever since he debuted i never came across any of his controversy
It's the truth. Gulf is living his life like it should be lived. If Mew would come back down a peg or two he'll be ok.
I absolutely loved that, instead of following what everybody else was doing, and not getting caught in all the BS. Gulf took the "High Road" and chose to not disrespect nobody etc, because he knew what that would do to him and his career. Wise decision Gulf👏👏.
Gulf is abelist and used to make fun of his effeminate male classmates
I disagree with including First with the other boys in this. He was the victim of the r@pe jokes that White was making. It looked to me like he was just laughing because he was uncomfortable and afraid, not because he found it funny. He kept looking at Tay and whispering to Tay and he looked very uncomfortable. Now Chimon and Foei laughed very hard at it and that is definitely wrong.
I think so too actually, he looked afraid. And I think this joke was disgusting and disturbing and I feel bad for First!
@@oliwiaburczyk4624When the "joke" was made, First did not laugh but was uncomfortable, I saw the post with a translation on Twitter... this is how you make others have a bad opinion about an actor as unproblematic as First 😭
@@Anna7emfk Oh, my point was, that First was uncomfortable and not enjoying those kinds of jokes... I don't believe he would be laughing at something like that. From the video I saw him being scared, and it made me sad tbh
Pond naravit was 12 yrs old that time, i will never understand people holding an adult accountable for what they did when they were literally a kid. Its good that he educated himself as he grew up.
true! me being an open gay person, I still remember, once saying a homophobic joke to one of my classmate, when I was at grade 6. the society is very heteronormic and that is what we learnt while growing up, we had that mentality unconsciously but how you build yourself as an grown adult is totally unto you.
I'm a pond fan too but need to say 12 years old means they can probably understand what bad jokes are.
@@strawberrymiku1237 not everyone understands at the same age, its like cancelling an adult for hitting someone as a baby
Honestly, Zee and nuneww are going to regret this heavy fan service.
It's too much and completely not necessary.
They are literally out Idk what is this person even talking About … The whole thai industry knows About them
@@everydaydreamer1 i truly hope so-how do you know they're out if you could enlighten us who aren't sure
@@girsharma2076 they came out in interview .. no nobody is gonna tell me it wasn’t clear cos they stated it clearly and after that interview … Thai media went berserk and people were congratulating them back and forth … plus after that they have confirmed it several times… plus when u see the relationship of their parents and family towards them you can clearly see they are in serious relationship… I have a Thai friend who is completely unbiased and doesn’t watch BL and she told me she can clearly see from the language they use and other cultural stuff that they are dating…
@@nimjoon5333 Mewgulf never said they are more than phinongs or that they are khoorak… u clearly aren’t Thai and know nothing about the language they use for each other nor know their story … if they weren’t clear then why several Thai media and Thai people have congratulated them on their relationship after it ?! Can u explain that ?!
@@everydaydreamer1 I one hundred percent agree with the way they are-I really wish somebody caught them when they were not aware of cameras and see how Zee looks after NuNew. I think it would be terribly sick if they've gone so far for fan service that i find unhealthy unless they do it in a way that aligns with their shows and performance and not for views or money. Money is never a great incentive- I and i am sure many would lose hope in love and demonstrating it if they are fake after going so far. I in my heart without any judgement think they are real and hope they appreciate each other especially in a world where sincerity in anything is flawed. I hope the application of American reality (fake-ness) shows doesn't influence the sincerity and innocence of East. Thank you for replying.
I hate the fan service and that's why I love ships that promote good friendships and a strong bond. These people are actors and this is a job!
Absolutely! It’s a job and I don’t like everyone I work with and it’s not a secret that some of them can’t stand each other.
Exactly. Calling themselves a couple or lovers is unnecessary and invites all type of extreme behaviours from fans. Both fans and the actors should know where to stop. If they did the environment would be much less toxic than what we have to deal with nowadays. It really takes away from enjoying the shows and fan life in general.
I don't like fan service either (at least what it is now). I don't see the harm in fanservice if there is a clear line drawn between reality and acting. Like call eachother by your character names when you want to do fanservice, so people know it's not real. If you call eachother by your real names/actor names that means it's real. If you call eachother by your character names it means you're doing fanservice. Simple. Actors like Perth Nakhun have said (on his channel) that at the end of the day acting is their job. BUT he also said that most of the time the actors DO develop real life relationships (friendships not romantic stuff) with eachother. It's more than just a job a lot of the times. But that's like a lot of normal jobs too. When you go to your job, you might end up developing some real life relationships (friendships) with some co-workers and also you might dislike some of your co-workers too. So it's normal and natural for you to develop good and close friendships with your co-workers/co-stars.
Friendship relationships are not romantic relationships though. But in most cases these BL actors end up either forming good close friendship relationships with eachother after acting with eachother, or they part ways. So I think 99.9% of all BL actors do not have true romantic feelings for eachother. But I think that at least 80% of all BL actors end up developing close friendships with eachother after working together. Most of the time, I don't think they just act together and develop no relationship with eachother afterward. At least according to the things people have said.
@@kiramakishima7836actually you are way off statistically. Don’t assume or define any relationship that isn’t your own in any context this is also true here co workers? And bl ones? More pairings are real then you think, but in the end unless they chose to make it public and even then doesn’t make it your business to comment on the double doctorate holder in me is saying ship the characters respect the real actors and THEIR relationships whatever they are. I’ve met professionally many of them and many whom are in my personal life as well, some I’ve met as my husband is a well known entertainment attorney and I’m a well known double Dr, and profiler. Many have real friendships that then go bad or develop into more and that’s their right to do so without anyone else saying different.
@@Dr.S_G We as fans will never know what the truth is unless they officially come and declare it. It's up to the actors themselves. They should be allowed to be with whoever they want to be with. But the whole fanservice thing is very confusing for many fans. I know it's part of the ET business where they are required to do fanservice. But if they do it, I think they should state that they are doing it to avoid backlash from fans. All these scandals, stress and everything that's been going on over the past few years is based off fanservice vs real feelings. If they were clear from the start that they are going to do fanservice, I think things would be better. I do think that there is a potential for romantic feelings to develop too. But many seem to just do it for fanservice. Again, this is just my impression, I don't know if this is correct or not. But one thing I don't really like is actors saying they have real feelings for eachother and then backtracking later and saying "it was just fanservice". Why can't they just tell the truth? If fans are real fans, they should be able to accept the truth from the actors they support.
Do you know why they allow this fanservice stuff to go so far? It becomes extremely hard to tell if the actors have real feelings for eachother or if they are just lying and doing fanservice.
Ohm had already been punished and the bullied person has already moved past it. I don't see where other people feel like they need an apology. Ohm was punished back then and the offended party wants people to drop it already. People do things they regret when young and people can change. I also find it funny that the account who brought up the the old stories of Phuwin and Pond was a Prom fan account as if they were trying to use Pond and Phuwin to bury Prom's scandal. I'm glad Pond and Phuwin apologized so that this can be put behind them, I'll still be supporting them.
Spot on
Yeah, I'm not gonna cancel people for things they did when they were middle schoolers.
@@dgaller06 agree
There is not only this bullying case with Ohm and he still said bad comment after acting in BL. I remember at this time they were all very keen on showing they weren't "part of the gays" even if they acted in BL, which is homophobic, you don't have to lookdown on people to show your heterosexuality
@@rosaliesappy413 he was never kinn about it he only once left a comment on his friend post saying something like no homo but he was 16 like he apolgized already
I agree that fans take fan service too seriously, but I think Mew has no-one to blame but himself. With his on-screen partners he goes all out with fan service and acts very suggestively and implies they are in a serious relationship, and when he doesn't need them anymore he drops them like a hot rock.
Exactly!! 👏🏼
@@BLFANEDITS spot on
Oh please. Both men acted out the fan service. Not just Mew. But just Mew got harassed for "leaving" his partner. Seriously do you know how many videos I STILL see with people whining that they "hold out hope" they will get back together? Straight or gay, real couple (who broke up) or fake (who got tired of faking it).... they have a right to say NO MORE and not be attacked for it.
@@kleek2217 true they both acted for fan service but mew moore his partner in the series keept education acted mature wasnt in scandals and in so much public light so mew problems are by his own making and i agree some toxic bl series fans get obssed but that problem also exist with other actors and idols and straight series actors and celebritys it is price that public figures of industry pay for fame best wishes
@@deborahboulet6830 agree gulf handled better for me it is max and tul who dragged me in bl world with series manner of death it was masterpiece and i became addicted to bl series
I find it interesting that Zee and NuNew seem to be in the same boat that Mew and Gulf were once in. They're giving heavy, heavy fanservice and interviews to the point that fans think their relationship is real. Let's be honest. Fanservice is nothing but an illusion. It's not real.
That being said, I agree that the Step By Step writers went too far and they could have made their point in a different way without calling anyone out.
The fact that people think they're actually together when there's no legit evidence shows. 😂 They're like family towards one another.
@@otashu26 unfortunately a lot of people believe that ZeeNunew themselves admitted that they are lovers but the reality is they didn't even say they are. They did admit though that they are special to each other, more than phinong, and it doesn't really necessarily mean it's romantic.
@@silynita Everyone believes they are real based on the interview they had with Woody where that stated they are a couple. Two things can be true at once. They could be real and do fan service. It's possible. I have my doubts but it doesn't make a difference to me either way.
Maybe I’m oblivious, but when I watched that Step-by-Step episode, I didn’t make a connection that they were specifically calling out ZeeNew. It just seemed like two separate things where they were stating a true fact and promoting a famous pair in the same scene.
Ok with those 2 till today I confused here is why I once saw vedios of them with both parents not once but multiple times which I don’t know if parents will also be partaking in fs well I don’t know but nothing is really in Asian industry anyways, all of them just know how to pretend which I hate soo much and funny the really gays don’t do much of that they kinda work and go home am lying 😂😂
I hope Zeenunew know what they're doing with the whole fanservice shenanigans. It's gonna be a blood bath once they follow Mewgulf's footsteps.
I've been wondering about that myself. I don't really care if they are a couple or not - (I will just kind of love Zee for the rest of my life whatever he does and that's just how it is) - but the way they carry on whenever there's a camera around makes me kind of hopeful that they are for everyone's sake (plus their respective families have said things about them so at the very least they involved their parents and if they aren't together, yikes). So yeah, I kind of hope they are together and that they're both deep in love with each other and stay that way because if not, f***ing Christ that's going to go down harder than the Hindenburg and set off a worse reaction than Chernobyl.
Y’all know that not all relationships last forever, right? ZNN have stated they are partners/lovers (depending on translation) and their parents have certainly implied that as well. However, it doesn’t mean that the relationship will continue “forever.” NuNew is young…and with time, his feelings (and Zee as well) might change. It happens. I just like to see them enjoy their lives and they definitely complete the other (where one excels, the other often struggles so they balance each other well). This might not always be the case as everyone grows and changes.
I love BL but I just don’t get fan service. I’m a international fan and it’s hard to understand. The BL fan service and K-pop fan are so extreme. I also think the BL industry is toxic to keep making or pushing these guys to act like real couple outside of the screen. I think in the long run it can really mess with their psyche. But these companies are only doing what the fan service wants. I believe other countries don’t have fan service (not 100% sure) UK, Korea, USA, Japan, shows like Young Royals, HeartStopper, Gameboy, History 1-3, Semantics Error and Cherry Magic. When I see them do interviews they’re talking about the acting, script not if they like each other. Get rid of fan service and let these guys do their job just be actors
YES, I've been saying the same thing. Totally agree!
I find fan service so cringe also,,,I thought of another thing ,since Bl fandom also has very very young fans could they be the majority who go delulu over this and somewhat demand it?also I think the managers &production companies are predators coercing actors to do this shit for their benefit knowing “it sells” ..and yes only in BK where the madness ignites
@@ambrostasia Yes! I see people justifying it saying oh this is how they get sponsorships. Well then that needs to change. Their acting abilities should get them sponsorship not whether they can pretend to be in a fake relationship for the rest of their lives to fulfill people's perversions. Ugh! It makes me so mad because hetero actors are not being asked to do this crap.
@@ambrostasia good point 👍🏽
@@alilake1 YES!!!! YES !!!
I sometimes feel so good that some of the Bl actors refrain themselves from doing such extreme fanservices or smartly and politely refuse to do so....like brightwin - they share good friendship and colleague behaviour and mind their own career and goals. I believe now a days "offgun" also have toned down a lot (it's my perception, not anything personal)
For me the whole BL industry is base on queer baiting , they are happy to use the LGBTQA money , but behind the scene they are way to many actor/producer/director with an history of LGBTQA hate . The fan service is completely crazy and toxic . People need to understand that this is fiction , but i think the whole industry is responsible for the toxic fan service by really pushing people to believe completely fake relationship .They are pushing straight actor to fake a whole relationship and are surprised when people believe in it (sharing physical intimacy , spending way to much time together , going to diner like a couple ,etc ...... )
Hear hear! Your spot on
You said it right!!!
sorry but I think delusional fans are responsible for a lot of the issues. I am often shocked at the innuendos and suggestions fans make about very innocuous actions and activities of BL CPs. The CPs that release their own videos of "personal" interactions only make it worse. Mew was right... some of these folks are really out of control. That is the part of things in BL that make me tired of BL.
@@kleek2217 i totally agree with you but i thinks this a larger problem not just bl problem , nowday all fandom are way to toxic , way to intrusive , way to creepy , they stalk /follow idol/actor . this is way to crazy . I don't know why or when fandom became so toxic , but for me the industry ( music,film , entertainment ) is partially responsible , they feed fan lie and create some sort of parasocial relationships between fan and actor, they need to create boundaries and hard consequences . Actor /Singer/Dancer are here to entertain us nothing more . Mew was right but honestly for me what is was doing was borderline queer baiting and uneccessary and sometimes strange , the main cutie pie couple is going in the same direction ( STOP PRETENDING to be in relationship or being vague when ask question about it , you're two straight actor that played gay role. and its ok ) .
@@mCk2297 I can’t think of another entertainment genre that takes it to these extremes. K Pop comes second but BL is in a league of its own
I actually needed to see this video because fans were really starting to get to me. I was recently rewatching cutiepie and these days since I've gotten older lost the ability to see the appeal of shipping videos. when watching an ep I was reading through the comments and ppl were saying they confirmed the relationship and i usually ignore it but so many people were saying it that I actually thought it was true cuz I felt no way this mass of people are taking something the wrong way but precisely. BL fans do it best reading too deep into any and everything. It remined me of when I watched Perth's video answering the questions of fans and he was responding to a fan service question. He was saying that fans seem to think they are body language experts and that most of the time they are wrong and overanalyze suff. Anyway nice video keep up the good work!!!!
Zee and Nunew are in a real relationship, they have said it many times.
@@danatomlinson3774 they actually haven't confirmed it but they haven't really denied it either
The first case 1:20 refers to Zee and New being reel. The actors talked about themselves as a couple and their company also confirmed their relationship. So yes it’s confirmed. It will be nice to stop having this kind of debate from now on cause they can’t not confirm it more at this point.
@@faynuexunqi4042they did and the company confirmed it too 1:20
I have to admit I'm surprised about Mew. I never believed for an instant they were dating, but I did get duped into thinking they were close as friends. They seemed to genuinely respect and care for each other other, despite all the fake flirting. But since Mew flatly says they haven't spoken in 2 years, I guess not. Wow, that seems incredibly cold-hearted and cynical to cozy up to someone like that and then be like "what, I was faking, y'all ur crazy thanks for the cash buh bye". Actors give you trust issues sometimes...
They could’ve been close lol. People grow apart. Also it’s a job, they both know what they signed up for
About the whole, "Mew could've been gentler about this with his fans." Remeber when he said he was in a relationship with someone, people still hoped that Gulf was the one he was with. And the reply to the tweet, "is it the one who plays football?" He replied, "sorry but no." People still insisted it was him, EVEN AFTER he said it wasn't. They couldn't take that as an answer. The whole thing about a hired detective stalking both Mew and Gulf for 2 YEARS mind you, was enough for Mew to blow a fuse. Imagine having someone stalk you for 2 years cause they couldn't accept that you weren't with that person, any sane person would react the same way as him, or even worse for that matter. Now anyone that says he should've been nicer should just let that man be unhinged for once. He doesn't deserve to hide away or be quiet about everything to cater to their feelings. He's human too, respect it.
Yes, I agree. Mew is a problematic person in certain ways, but this was not the problem.
Also, I have to call out the OP here. Gulf is also DEEPLY problematic. He's made ableist and homophobic remarks as well.
@@sallygreenfield2123 What homophobic remarks Gulf made?? I never heard of it
My personal opinion is quite simple...although Mew said a few things that were kinda mean (uneducated and mental health issues), he is completely correct. Far too many fans cannot separate reality from fiction. Sure, it's so great when two actors in a BL get along so well and can play up their onscreen relationship offscreen as well. However, he also pushed it as far as he did with Gulf.
As for the ZeeNew scene in Step by Step, seriously??? Come on! They are two actors who play LGBTQIA+ roles in some BL shows. And they were certainly asked and probably paid (pretty sure) to have their faces appear in that episode in the board room. But reality is reality. They are actors (gay or not doesn't matter) who portray gay characters to make money. The dialog used in this scene is correct. It is factually true. Many BL actors are doing these series for fame and money. Sure, some are supportive of the LGBTQIA+ community, but that doesn't mean that they live and breathe gay. They are human beings with their own dreams and desires. I agree that seeing actual BL actors was not necessary to tell this part of the story. But it is all still true in how the BL world works. Obsessive fans are just pissed because their dream ship was accused of something within a BL series (its not even a twitter or IG post) that is probably true! This takes us right back to my first paragraph about what Mew said...fans need to let go and just enjoy the series and see them at fan events, without this need to get all these couples married!
I watched Step by Step (the scene in question) and I just said to myself "oh cool, those two agreed to be part of the episode" and then continued to watch the story unfold.
We have recently seen the outcome of obsessive fanning (Build suing those slanderers). Nobody is stopping anyone from having their personal fantasies about these guys. But just keep it to yourself at home in your bedroom. These studios need to stop telling their actors to do excessive fan service and the interviewers also need to stop these stupid BL games (Pocky) etc. Just interview them. Ask them questions about their relationships, sure! But they are two actors paid to perform a role. Daniel Craig (007) does not run around the world shooting everyone and blowing up buildings, nor banging every single woman who passes his way. He is given a script that he performs as per the director's requests. And at the end of the filming, he goes back to his own life.
Yes but the difference with Mew is He tried to convince everyone it really was real. Now that he is famous he is saying just fan service...
@@mithrandir858 Yes. However, everyone knows Mew is bisexual. I do believe he wanted it to be true when it was all happening. But clearly, Gulf is not gay/bi. So now, Mew has switched back and is dating some girl. Which is fine...it is his choice. Unless we actually are in his mind, we do not know his reasoning for doing or saying things. And keep in mind that these film companies were forcing many of their artists to "ACT" in love on and offscreen. It was part of their contracts. But that is slowly changing due to situations like this. Artists (just like any one of us) wants our own lives outside of work. This is also why this crap never happens in western shows/movies/series. Because you cannot contract someone to stay away from their own partner/wive/husband and pretend to be dating someone else. Especially in the 21st century.
Putting all that aside, I still like Mew's acting. But I don't think we will be seeing too much of him in the near future. Certainly in BL's anyway. He seems to be doing everything he can to distance himself from it all.
@@darrenhales6094 I thought Gulf was gay
Thank God your opinion is just SIMPLE, which ended up writing an ESSAY. What if it was complicated!!!!.......🤣🤣🤣
@@makeamoment2428 Complicated = A single sentence! haha
I don't hate fan service because I see it for what it is. Would I stand in the airport and wait hours for their arrival? No! Would I go to a fan service event? No! I think they get weird and cringy when I watch these things online. When I first started watching BLs, I thought "this is soooo cute", especially OffGun. However, I have never thought that ALL of these actors are a couple and dating each other. How ridiculous! Some actors have chemistry and it works when they do multiple shows together. Some have no chemistry and should move on after they finish their show (i.e All the actors from Love Syndrome..lol). For me, fan service is just another way for them to make money. If they were being paid enough for the shows they did; they wouldn't have to and wouldn't choose to do fan service. Mew is definitely wrong here but maybe his partner is forcing him to say this so they don't get hate when they marry. Look at the hate idols get when they accidentally or intentionally admit to dating someone. They get hate and their partner get hate. All of the idiots toting anti-gay speech; they should just shut their mouths. How are you biting the hand that feeds you? You addressed this is another video when the Ohm scandal started and I do agree; why are people surprise about these boys doing those things when they were young? We were all brought up with the "boys will be boys" crap. And yes they did have license to do these things knowing that when they became men they would have a clean slate. It's sad that all the victims had to suffer through these things but every time another allegation is brought up, I guarantee the conversations starts with "how old were you? ...Oh, you were too young to know better" 🤨 Stop looking at these actors ( and I mean all actors all over the world) as role models. Enjoy their craft, enjoy how you feel when you watch their shows and move on to the next. OMG! Sorry it was so long...😬😌 Love the video, as usual! 😘
I want to pin this comment so bad 🙌
Unlike Kdramas lots of thai blseries don't make that much money from drama views because they are showed on TH-cam. That's why they have to do product placements, fan meetings, fan service etc. I see lots of international fans don't understand these things and always blaming bl industry.
All of your complaints will be fixed if they stream these on paid services instead of youtube. But then how many of you can or be willing to pay for subscriptions.
I personally think bl as a industry is still on it's early stages as time goes on lots of thing will change for the best. In meantime as fans we should be supportive and understanding instead hating everything they do. We can guide this industry to become one of the best through constructive criticism and positive attitude.
I agree with you about the permanent pairings. It should stop. It leaves no mystery to the end couple in shows and limits the actors.
First was the victim of that r*p* joke in safehouse. It isn't right to include him in the same context as white and foei. First and Tay didn't even laugh at the joke becoz both of them were confused and didn't understand the "joke".
The Zee / New issue is interesting to me. Whether they are / are not a "real" couple is not the issue to me. The fact is they do indeed capitalize on their relationship in many marketing and money raising events. And isn't that what the show was pointing out? After all, ZN release a lot of video they have posed for/made that feed the fandom's shippers. That's not just living their lives, that's promotion. So they are not entirely innocent, IMO.
It's not just Thai actors capitalizing from their fans but even straight couples do it. Whether they're real couple or not at least they had the guts to say their feelings. Other couples doing fs just kept mum about their real relationship. Real cp or not other ppl already judged znn so even if they get married ppl will still say it's fs.
if zeenunew are just a fan service.. damn, they deserve an oscar for their amazing preformance! 👏🏻👏🏻
To be honest, none of them shock me. The average age and maturity level (and, I’m assuming cultural acceptance of LGBTQ+ lifestyles) of the actors we’re taking about here is probably rather low. Add to that pack thinking or past actions and, well frontal cortex engagement goes out the window. Does that excuse their behavior? No, absolutely not, but I don’t find it shocking at all. I also don’t find it surprising that the companies don’t do anything about it unless it rises to a certain level of attention. Mew, on the other hand, is old enough to know better and should just shut up. Thanks for the video ❤
Thanks for watching amy 🙏🏻💖
Mew has always been a drama queen lol
"Mew, on the other hand" Bwahaha. He keeps me entertained. On and off screen. lol
It brings back the scandal of MewArt, where everyone was shitting so hard on Art while he was crying his heart out, and Mew in the other hand all relaxed and chill and the ppl prefered to attack on the one whos crying, like wasnt it obvious who was more hurt?
When art explained his discomfort and stayed true, mew was neutral. Now mew is telling his fans to get mental help with gulf. But still art took the most hit, mew told his fans about reality only after he got monetary strong fame.
I would just like to repeat that in the Safe House portion, First didn't do anything wrong. I don't speak Thai so maybe I'm missing something, but even in this small video he is visibly uncomfortable and from what I have heard/seen, he didn't even understand what the joke *was* and when he did he got very quiet and uncomfortable. I'm genuinely irritated that you're blaming First at all, here.
There's a reason that those guys are being made to apologize *to* First, ffs. There's also a reason that *First* wasn't made to apologize. And I hate it because even if they mean it (which I doubt), now we all have to pretend everything is forgiven. Because they did a quick image apology on camera.
Some of these things are also just kind of ridiculous, the kind of stupid crap that a lot of kids say because they're dumb teenagers. It's not that I think that bullies shouldn't be held accountable - especially when the bullying is physical - but when we're coming after a dude because when he was what, thirteen at most he made a couple of shitty comments and turning him into a villain, I think we're going a little far. At least let these guys prove that they haven't grown out of that kind of thing first - I'm more than happy to write Foei off, for instance. The man is old enough to know better and clearly refuses to learn. But we have no indication about some of the others.
You misinterpreted some parts of the Foei, White, First - Safe House scandal.
First and Tay were seen confused, not knowing about the joke.
Gemini and Fourth were seen laughing at the joke (fourth especially roared in laughter).
I think you are completely correct . Most of the actors are not gay and some even hate gay people , I remember Joong when he was asked about being gay his response was , I am a man., but yet he is always cuddling Dunk doing fan service to try to stay popular .And recent one is Gemini and Fourth when Fourth said he is the most popular boy in his school everyone loves him , Gemini s response was but they are all boys . And it’s clear that Gemini tries to not do fan service , he is always pushing Fourth away .He is very talented and doing these series is what he needs to help his career but for me you can see he is definitely not gay . I’m all for the excessive fan service to stop it only causes problems for themselves further on , and the dillusions of toxic fans believing every on screen couple is together in real life and gay in real life . They are actors
as someone who's new to bl and recently found out abt these things i feel like if the actors r close there is no need for fanservice becuz everything comes off naturally. there is no need to act like a couple if you r not. u can just be like bestfriends. doing all the stuffs and then calling it fanservice feels insincere to me. i would rather appreciate their closeness as friends than couple
eg. brightwin everyone is well aware they r not a couple. they hve healthy relation and hve been friends for a long time. this is also the reason why ppl still love & support them till date cuz they r genuine. its not just fanservice but actual close friends.
Mew is one of the reasons that I only believe that an actor is in a relationship with another person when that actor says and proves it.
For example: Porsche and Arm; Both and Newyear; Gus Korawit and Pea.
They all have post many videos and photos together.
All the others I just believe they are hetero until each one of them says he isn't.
To be honest, I have not gone through the previous comments in this or any of your already posted videos, but I got to say that your level objectivity and expression towards the topics is outstanding and worthy of applause. Keep doing what you are doing and Inlook forward to more of your content. One of the things that you mentioned about the REAL nature of the bl shipping from both sides, from the production industrys as well as from the fandom stance already make me very much sense. Again thank you and bye for now.
Thankyou ❤️❤️
Mew really out here trying to gaslight his fans.
Nothing is shocking here. We all do stupid things in our youth. Unfortunately, we don't learn from it until we are adults, especially if there is no one in your life to check you on it. Some people act like celebrities aren't human. It's okay for them to have a conversation about anything and everything. It's okay to comfort someone about a past mistake. It's okay for them to get upset about constantly being attacked by strangers. It's unfortunate for them because of who they are that they can't express themselves because someone will always have a camera pointed at them. All these concerned netizens that are coming out of the woodwork to right the wrongs of celebrities, please share how you're tackling racism and homophobic behavior among your own family members, your community, your closest friends. What about the hatred you're spreading yourself? Are you checking yourself?
Does anyone follow the news on everyday citizens around the world? Grown adults on social media bullying children, encouraging self harm. M*rderers, p*dophiles, r*pists, thieves!!! Can we all come together and go after these people?
I just don't understand waiting to report a person childhood behavior once the person becomes famous. What is the intention? "I was called names or had food thrown at me when we were children, now that he's famous, I choose at this present time to use my keyboard to get back at him and gather(likes)while I publicly destroy his career". Is that it? Jeez!
No none of the things you said are okay. This sort of "Celebrities are human too" sort of opinions are used by fans who are unable to come to terms with the fact that their actors are being called out. You want to deter from the fact that this is a whole system and industry. When society decides to make stars out of individuals, you have to set a certain standard because "stardom" is such an enormous position of privilege and power over the masses, over society... Why does someone deserve to be a star? Your comment is somehow saying being kind is the moral thing to do. The stars themselves are immoral. They deserve all the hate they get. You cant commit a crime and be like its okay coz I dint see it. This seems to be the Asian attitude - just accept things the way they are.
@@akshayachandrasekar1752
Who pissed in your cheerios this morning? Go sit down.
Build and Poi, this is messy and very toxic and in the public eye. So embarrassing!! And fake abortion story very low.
Mew & Gulf another shocker. I think it’s crazy that artist play along or even create these love stories and then get offended when people get invested. (Although some fans take it too far)
Bl or non bl actors and artists do this all the time but I wonder how much money they get paid to play along!! So sad as everyone will like the story if it’s good, no need to keep up the facade.
True
@@BLFANEDITS spot on
Oh boy. It must be hard being in the limelight and having hordes of “perfect” people pick you apart. Humans ALL make mistakes. It seems to me that those who are so eager to attack those who make mistakes are bullies in their own right.
Stan BrightWin for 0 fanservice but a true friendship.That prom incident was truly disgusting as a fan i was really shocked and disappointed fans need to stop pampering and supporting actors based on their characters in drama no one knows what's their true face in reality.And i feel like most of the bl actors are homophobic and problematic in real life so i only watch drama and never sewrch for their real name i am afraid of shipping them😂.
Mew is damn honest recently.
And yes step by step calling out is necessary bc fanservice is going to hurt fans as well actors. They are playing with fire.
I love Art so much, so sad that he suffered so much because of Mew and his toxic fans..
I feel like most of the apologies aren't heartfelt or neither is it apologetic. Many people say that they did it when they were high schoolers or so. But just think, being a bully at that age is because they had a privilege and that privilege only increases with their career, fame and money. Mew in his tweet blantantly told the toxic fans to take help, he could have been more polite. But I think, he was so confident because he already has a very strong hold in the industry. And Foei's case it is repeating mistake. Consider Prom's case where he bullied and already threatened the people not to make the allegations public. What kind of a behavior is that? Along queerbaiting and bullying even bodyshaming happens.
The fan service is out of control now smh 🙄
And zeenewnew is NOT a real couple ,they just have a very good working relationship. Most bl actors are straight.
Yess
YES.
Tell that to the delulu fans 😂
@@otashu26 yes i agree it's the fans who can't tell fiction/fantasy from reality, but some blame also goes to the actors who put on the fan service in order to get sponsors and deals etc
Earthmixx
Brightwin
Geminifouth
Zeenew
None of these are real couples, one or both actors are probably straight and have no interest in being gay, but they pretend for the pay.
Yes thank you. Everyone kept saying they confirmed it in an interview and I watched said interview and nowhere in it did they say "yes we are boyfriends"
I mean, I gotta admit, Mew had a point. Could he have said it in a gentler way? Maybe. But it seems like he was going for shock value in order to put that final nail in the coffin.
And yet at the end of the day all these BL fans are still supportive of these Artists anyway, so i guess it doesn't bother them at all. End of story.
Very true
I have to disagree with you. I will never watch anything the actor from Bad Buddy was in again.
This is why I only follow Thai actors on social media who I know have come out to avoid being part of the toxic shipping.
Best thing to do 👍🏻
@@BLFANEDITS I’m just surprised there haven’t been more queer actors in bl at least ones who are out. I’m starting to think the whole they look specially for straight actors is true.
And you know what those real gay actors are hardly casted that’s something I don’t understand and when they are they don’t do this crazy fs at all .
@@Missy552 Yeah only one that has gotten consistent work is Fluke and that’s probably because they liked to have him work with that other actor.
I don’t watch fan service events anymore (if I can sift through the rubble) but I do watch videos in which my favorite actors enjoy their friendship without forcing things. Nuff said.
You know what i think I belive that if men don't wanna be tied down to men when working in the bl industry then don't work in that field of acting because no matter what you do if its a good show there are gonna be fans who can't look past that no matter what movie or shows you act in now it doesn't make it right but its just like becoming famous you have to deal with being in the spotlight 24/7 once you sign that contract you have no choice but to accept everything with it. its sad but true 🤷♀🤷♀
I know right this fanservice thing is getting out of hand like this normally like the fans are taking it way too serious right now I mean it just acting it not like it real or something 😂
For real 😅
i think its perfectly okay to use zeenunew because it perfectly gets across the point. and just like you said the actors are doing their role and it was the screen writier's decision..and the whole promotion thing is on different teams..so it's okay i guess... im happy that the discussion at least has started and it would be amazing if production houses started calling out each other like this..then this whole phenomenon would be in check.
It's not ok as bec they singled out a particular cp. Did you even see the mocking and insulting comments towards them bc of what that series did? Why not use other couples? Or more so why use real ppl's name. It's very hypocritical of the series to say bl actors are profiting from lgbtq when they are doing the exact same thing.
Absolutely agree with the Mew part. It's just so funny that he calls his own fans disturbing and rude remarks for keep shipping him with Gulf while it looks like he's actually the one overdid the shipping agenda and was so eager to make fans believe that they're actually dating.
Thank you for more information on Build-Poi. Also, I wonder what caused Mew to start speaking out again? The fiance? The fact that there are new videos stating that Mew & Gulf are truly together.I don't get it. Sometimes, a duck is a duck. If the fans can't tell the difference then they need to look to themselves as to why they have a problem with the dreams not being reality in a whole bunch of cases.
Fan service does a large disservice to the actors and can even come across as an insult to the writers and production team. I will support those actors that I support. People, sometimes, have to mess up to learn and to grow.
If ZNN say they're just friends, ppl will say they're doing fs. If they admit they're "khoorak" (lovers) they'll still say it's fanservice. Basically ppl already judged them so whatever znn say is useless. I'm just glad that both Zee and NuNew have separate works, Zee with 3 dramas and Nunew with his singing career. At the same time they also have cp works, their upcoming movie and series.
What step by step did is wrong. Even if they used another bl couple, it's still wrong to use real names. They all work in the same industry and yet they had the nerve to call out others for fanservice and profiteering from the lgbtq community when they're doing the exact same thing. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Now I'm realising that all were just fan service- Even when they say we are real or something like that
I feel like stupid in believing those fan services 🤦
BL Resolution - watch only bl series and leave it just there and then itself do not watch any Behind the scenes or service videos 😔😔
I think of fan service as actors acting offstage. If they’re really good at it, people begin to think it’s not an act. The actors are actively trying to make people believe in the act though, so it’s annoying to hear them attack fans for doing exactly what they originally wanted them to do in the first place. If it’s going to be a problem, actors should either stop acting like lovers for a crowd or take the fans belief in the fictional relationship that they (the actors) created as a compliment to how well they act.
I adore you and your content. Now that that is out of the way...
1. Step by Step - I agree with your opinion that names didn't need to be said at all. I also think it's typical toxic fans that made the issue huge because how dare anyone suggest their couple isn't a real couple. The moment anyone says "none of them are" though...Yoon and Tor come out as a couple and the whole wishful thinking happens again. The one thing I got from War of Y is they're all having sex with each other just like we think they are lol I also think people get high brow and claim they don't care for fan service. Lies. In my world, everyone is gay until they have to come out as straight. I like fan service and I like when shipped couples have events promoting brands ( because they make more money ). I also hope we can move past actors only being able to work with one person. That would alleviate a lot of the toxic part of fan service where the actors have to lie to get Brand work and fans won't be heartbroken when they find out they aren't really in love.
2. Prom - I think we need to be really careful how we throw around the accusation of pedophilia. It's proven the more you hear or see a word the more we are desensitized to it. Unless you are saying that Prom looked at preschoolers and became sexually aroused by looking at them you don't understand the definition or the seriousness of the charge. He didn't say that or convey that at all. I listened to his interview a couple times because the first time I was so furious that his seniors in the business would allow this very young man to sabotage his career while just laughing about it. Are they so dumb that they didn't understand the ramifications? White hasn't experienced enough damage or did he want company on that toxic bench he always finds himself sitting on? Where was Prom's manager? Men who like men don't like boobs. I know that the fan base is primarily women but sorry to say... gay men aren't sexually attracted to women.
3. Phuwin and Pond - toxic fans like Zee and Nu's fans deciding someone is going to pay because their favorite was embarrassed. Prom should be embarrassed. Zee and Nu should be embarrassed if their fans riot because someone suggested they aren't real if they really aren't real. Yoon and Tor didn't have a problem saying they are real. Phuwin and Pond's response should be studied and copied by all actors or singers in this industry. It will be someone else's turn next exactly like what Mark said. Pond and Phuwin's response was so good and so sincere. We are all human with flaws but thank God no one knows us so we will never have to publicly apologize for bad behavior when we were 12 years old. ( Ohm )
4. Foie hasn't shown me that he is an empathetic nice person so any asshole thing he does I pretty much expect it. I don't look for his work. If I watch him, it's because he is in something that someone else I like is in.
5. Noeul isn't dating Milk. You're repeating crap tweets from accounts that have tweeted rotten lies about Noeul. There isn't a difference between you saying Mew and Gulf are dating from Noeul and Milk are dating or Noeul and Boss are dating or Fort and Pavel are dating or Nunew and Max are dating. Mew AND Gulf are responsible for allowing fans to really think they were more than just a work couple. I think too the producers of TharnType benefitted from fans thinking they were more than a work couple so even if Mew and Gulf wanted to tone it down they were encouraged to keep it up.
@Amelia Sorokina did you mean to comment on a different post?? Or are you replying to a comment that was deleted?
None of this is surprising.
1. Fan service is dumb. Ship fictional characters, not real people. They are actors, after all. Their job is to make people believe them.🤔
2. Fans don't know any of these actors in real life. We only see what they want us to, so when allegations happen it's not surprising. Some are false and some are real.🤷♀️ Most don't get hired for their acting ability or real characters. We all know that had some of the guys been less attractive they definitely wouldn't be popular.
3. Build and Poi was a hot mess. They are an example of "Be careful with who you date", because you never know how that can screw you over in the future.
4. At the end of the day fans need to remember BL is a business. Every producer, director,actor,and manager is their to make money. It's that simple.
lol Mew just can’t help but cause problems for himself.
What shock me the most is the story of Mew about his fan service with Gulf. I feel that Mew is always looking for press attention. He should concentrate on his private life and don’t be so much on social media. I believe it’s sad for the actors in Thailand. Why are the Thai fan like this? Are we dealing with lonely people? What’s their issue’s?
Fan service should only be at events only it shouldn't be used on Twitter TikTok or Facebook. Where people are so assuming that they are a gay couple Shippers go too overboard and then they get upset when they find out that they are not a real couple
Don't mind fan service to generate income, but if your doing casual shipping for products etc, great, but if you go all out, spend all time together on videos and outside work, expect fans to think they are together. Don't cry about it... When ship ends for whatever reason, make if publicly clear if your just friends, or part ways with a wave and a smile, thanking fans for supporting them.
I love Bong, and I wanna be his friend! he is so much fun, sincere, and out there,,, the episode was amazingly informative in a respectful way,, well done,, I am liking this series more and more,, keep the good work.
Such a different perspective when fans ship the stars together. I am used to the star needing to stay single for the fans that envision and hope that they can become or, believe that they can become their loved one. I have to admit I loved when I found out that Earth Mix was real. They got along so well in 1000 stars that it made me happy that they are still together. Same with the couple from Semantic Error. Love them.
earthmix are not real and neither are the semantic error couple. they are just co actors and friends
Thank you for you work :)
The safe house scandal - honestly people say that kind of stuff all the time. There are always the people who laugh. Then there are the people like myself who either get uncomfortable or just don't get involved. The world hasn't changed much really. 🤷♀️
Personally I think First got uncomfortable that's why he laughed otherwise he seems like he's really scared 😢
@@user-wx5eb2dx9t at the end of the day he is the one that needed the apology. Poor first 😢
@@user-wx5eb2dx9t First didn't laugh at the r@pe joke... the video is not put together in order and poorly misinterpreted ......at the start of the video when first is laughing with others including Tay, everyone was just having fun and talking on the table at that time r@pe joke was not made ......
when the r@pe joke was made First and Tay were confused as they didn't understood the joke and clearly looked uncomfortable awkwardly smiling ........others on the table understood the joke and laughed out loud including Chimon Forth and others
The BL industry is itself the reason for making fans a "delulu" and now these actors are asking us to seek help , how ironic 😂
Honestly, Mew's fans needed that wake up call. He only spoke the truth, not so much about the mental health thing, but definitely about everything else. Queer baiting is not the same as fan service. We should all know fan service is NOT REAL. Queer baiting is when they make you think they are and you can't tell if they are or not and they give you hope that they are gonna be real. Fans need to know the difference.
At the end of the day I feel they are all great actors. The series are well made and entertaining ❤
I 100% agree with you about the Mew/Gulf controversy. You are spot on 💯. It's like you read my mind
Just enjoy the series don't fall for fan service
I wonder what demons people are behind their smiles. We believe what we see and they're good at acting. People sold their souls to make money. Occasionally these controversies help us come out of our bubbles and face the reality. It's sad everything is a lie and everything is nothing but business strategies for people to make money out of fans.
Idk y'all, it's just so odd to me that a lot of these actors have bullied people in the past or "were/are" straight up homophobic. And I am not saying we should hold people accountable forever for the mistakes they made when they were younger, but at this point I am wondering who the heck didn't have a history of bullying anyone in this bl industry. Is it a must have criteria that's supposed to be in their resumé when they apply for a role🤔🙄
As for the whole fan service situation, I think that's just unnecessary and does more harm than good. I've never seen this outside of Thailand, and if I ever have it's probably so subtle I couldn't even tell it was fan service.
Also actors should be able to be get paired up with other actors for different projects. Isn't that how acting works 😅
That's what I really like about Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese bl's.
one disturbing trend i notice is that actors take bl as a gateway to their acting carriers i have seen this in kdramas as well..like one new actor gains popularity doing bl and then wont ever take lgbtq roles and the mainstream actors mostly wont take up gay roles but its not true for the lesbian roles..i have seen famous actors taking up lesbian or queer roles and i think this shows that how being gay apparently is a matter of masculinity . this is totally my opinion and in no way im claiming it to be objectively true. So as fans we need to be more careful i guess considering the grim situation of how these very bl actors are not lgbtq friendly and mostly just profit off of them and are disrespectful. fans made bl what it is today so if all of us starts to educate new fans not to fall for the onscreen couple's offline baiting we might have a better chance at this. but the fab service they do is beyond me istg,,hyporitical and double standards all the way. but in the positive light bl industry and its growth does have somewhat a positive role in the lgbtq spectrum like it has a larger audience now and actual members of the community are comfortable abd are working in the back ground, eg the directors and a lot of actors also. but again i think they are very limited to bl industry only...if someone is actually gay they just stay where they are while closseted or straight actors gets bigger oppurtunity which at the end of the day brings us back to square one. its sad. like all the actors who acted in a homophobic way never faces real consequences and are usually back in a couple of years. new actors are encouraged to fan service and make a fandom off of queer baiting. its disgusting. so if i had to have a solution for this matter i would look for the authenticity of the actors if i were to follow them other than the character they play. extreme queer baiting is a red flag and i would not be a advocate of their fabricated ship and have fights unless they actually come out and represent lgbtq community.
The information about Mark's incident is wrong. The person who said all that about people will forget was Mae Yui, one of GMMTV's artiste manager and Mark just agreed with her - I believe he just said one word which was "yes". You need to correct this please.
louder, girl louder!!! applause! 💖
“Mew Suppasit, the Controversy King!” If I have to go to hell for cackling at this, Ima book my tickets right now.
I personally love fan service, but with the way it intrudes into the actors lives, I think we would probably be better off without it. It is interesting to me how much this is uniquely a Thai problem. I’ve only done the one Taiwanese BL event with couples (History 5, with some of H3 and H4 cameos) and the one Japan BL event (My Beautiful Man movie). At the Taiwanese event, there was some typically shippy stuff, but what was interesting was that they used the names of the show characters, not the real actors. So, it was not Sean Chang and Linus Wang, but Tai Che Ni and Hai Yi, also known by the characters couple name Dahai. I thought that was a really interesting way to keep the fan service, but separate it from the actors. The MBM event was honestly just like a regular interview. I am sure Thailand has got this way for sales, which also applies to the abundance of product placement that does not appear in that way in Taiwan or Japan. Not familiar enough with Thailand to guess if keeping ships together actually makes a massive difference in the sales though. I am not someone bound by ships, as I signed up to see both Krist and Sam Lin without their legendary partners, just quickly as I signed up to see Bright and Win and Gemini and Fourth together, so I definitely can not go on my opinion alone.
PS, this video dropped in the early morning in Japan, and I seriously considered being late for work so I could watch it.
I Love that approach to shipping, keep the characters names! Or I sometimes thought that maybe Thai actors should have a stage name that everyone knows is a stage name. Like an added, clearly defined level of performance. When using the stage name, don’t take anything as real and assume it’s all performative for the audience’s enjoyment.
History series from Taiwan have been great, especially Crossing the Line from History 2. Both lead actors are now happily married with a kid each. The thing is Taiwan actors move on to other projects and move on to bigger screen / drama series roles and they don't label themselves as BL actors. They are "merely" actors.
Whereas Thai actors are labelled or label themselves as BL actors and milk out of a successful ship till the last drop. I guess it may have to do with how contracts are formed up in Thailand --- I have heard before that each project may even have fan service listed out for a period such as 6 months, 1 year, etc.
Why do they have to issue an apology for things they said and did as children. That's ridiculous! Children say and do some pretty cruel things because they truly don't understand the scope of life. As they get older and learn more, they understand better, and they do better, we all do. I think the fans need to issue an apology to the actors. They need to recognize them as actors, appreciate the entertainment they provide, and STOP BULLYING THE ACTORS!!!!!!
I agree -- this persecution of adults based on what they did as minors (i.e., of high school age or even younger) is plainly wrong and unjust. These bullying fans do need to apologize to the actors and stop it once and for all.
I don't care about things they did as children but I do care about how they are as adults and some of them do need to be reprimanded for their actions if they still have the same ideology and behavior.
@@BLFANEDITS I agree, which is why we ought to be very specific about whose present behaviors we are reprimanding and why. It does not not help to bully groups of actors as if they still all behave incorrectly into adulthood.
Let's start with the case of Ohm Pawat, only because I am most familiar with it. As far as I can tell, he has behaved in a very exemplary manner since his professional acting debut seven years ago at the age of sixteen. He has not demonstrated any traces of his reported bullying behavior from much earlier in childhood. He appears to be consistently polite, courteous, and respectful to strangers, admirers, and workmates. In conclusion, there is no basis for reprimanding him for any inappropriate behaviors in the present day.
If the above is reasonable, we should go down the line and examine the next case.
GMMTV is always being hated. I know the actors, crews, and creative team preserve the image of the actor and draws a line between acting and human being
Everybody has a past good/bad that just being human, you grow and change from it. Everyone has opinions whether we agree with them or not, the freedom to express it should always be allowed.
Whoa! That first Pond and Phuwin pic is from Thai Festival in Tokyo on Saturday! I was there!!!
I think I am more forgiving of most of these than your average BL fan. First of all, I have been living in Japan for 14 years so I have gotten used to Asia drawing lines in very different places than the West. Secondly, I work in a high school and all high schoolers are idiots. Just this Sunday, one of our idiots pulled an emergency lever, shuttering half the school and triggering an emergency response. A specialist company had to be called in to unshutter the school. Pretty sure if kiddo had not been a minor, there would have been legal charges.
It’s not just now that I am an adult that high schoolers are idiots either. High schoolers were idiots when I was in school too. I legit have no idea what I was doing wrong, because I happily lived in my own friend bubble and was really unobservant about these sort of things. I am 41, and just a couple years back a friend told me that one of our really bright, friendly classmate bullied him for years. I was shocked because, again, I was super unobservant in school. For myself, I know I absolutely did not mean to bully anyone, and I have the sort of personality where I am always all smiles and loud and cackling - kind of like that stock character in BL that turns up for laughs, but is super over-the-top with the comedy and half of the audience loves them and half can’t stand them. So, I think it is unlikely that anyone saw me as a bully, but I imagine there are lots of people who could not handle me if you paid them. But no one ever says it to my face, since I am also the type of person who pokes her nose in everywhere and ends up in charge of the class, even to the point that I am headlining the 25-year reunion. Lol. That said, I am absolutely sure that I made jokes that are now considered off-colour and I most definitely laughed at tons of them, even when I was uncomfortable. High schoolers will go with the flow into some stupid azz ish. Even I, a person who is relatively immune to peer pressure, got dragged along. Particularly in respect to gayness, the Caribbean is still very anti-gay and was way more anti-gay 30 years ago. Mind you, my island was teased by the other islands for being the gay-friendly one (ie, you would not get beat up for walking around looking flagrantly gay) and we still would not pass the test in 2023. In retrospect, I now know that one of the guys in my class and outer circle of friends is gay, so he must have heard a ton of crap at school. We are not super close, so I have no idea how he feels about this now. Another guy who I am closer to does not consider himself gay, but does enjoy the occasional activity with a guy. He always talks about how something is wrong with him, and that is probably a result of our tone deafness about gayness.
None of that to say that it is acceptable to do stupid ish, but just that it is common, and I do not know who among us has not said or done something that we should not. Also, celebrities are raked through a fine tooth comb almost 24 hours a day. Which of us only says politically correct stuff all day every day? And actually, so much of comedy is rooted in pain and often nice to someone, even if it is your own self. I feel like we risk losing the ability to laugh if we police words too much. By, “I feel”, what I mean here in super-polite Japan, we laugh about 1% as much as we laugh in my super inappropriate home island. And then we also have to factor in that acceptability changes across times and cultures. So, for me, it is natural that these issues pop up. Apart from what I consider the most serious -like that one BL murder, for example - it is way more important that people sincerely reflect on their actions, apologies and make actual changes. Of course, clamoring for apologies means we are less likely to get sincerity and more likely to get people apologizing so they can stay in their job, so…
Dang, Sorry. I always write an essay.
Spot on verry nice and mature comment even me who was bullied a lot in school every day without reason just becouce i wasnt slim and had glassed and problems with eyesight sametimes almost joined bullying i didnt bully anybody but i didnt stop bullying it just went with flow and regret it now i cnow how such actions and words hurt even after menny years and public and fans are sametimes unforgiving and actors are prople with time they change mature and learn from their mistakes we cant judge them for they did when they were children and verry young
Agreed
@@martakavaliauskaite4566 I am sorry you had to go through that. And I am glad you made it through that to becomewho you are today and interact with us in this community. Always glad to see your comments.
I am also not slim and had glasses, but somehow ended up "popular". I consider myself so lucky.
@@gogakushayemi thank you so much for your lovelly nice and warm comment and your kind words its nice to cnow that i wasnt alone who had problems in school i put that behind me and dont think abaut the past for me its the only way is too move forward and dont look back it took years to regain my self confidence and trust in humanity thanks to my lucky stars that i have amazing mother and good friends who helped me true the worst moments and also that i faund such lovelly warm and nice bl community where we can share our opinions abaut bl series and meet in internet such lovelly mature and smart people like you it is always verry nice to see your comments they are always are verry interesting best wishes and good luck to you
@@martakavaliauskaite4566 Thank you for the share Marta. You don't usually say much and I'm very glad you did.
The problem with BL GENRE in THAILAND now is growing and international people are now looking(they come with their own rules).
It takes away all Thailand traditional Bl genre and "ship couple" things.......
Actors who are acting in Bl genre 98% of them are straight but they are been forced by the fans to be in Real relationship which is hard and so many actors now when they act they move away quickly and it's better to act with different actors if you are in Bl drama ,like my Guy TALAY(from my ENGINEER) and YOON(UNFORGOTTEN night)....if you are stuck with one person the fans are brutal they will never let you live....
And now in Gmmtv NANON is removing himself from OHM(whatever happened to them) people were so forcing them to be even Nanon kept saying we are friends but still fans dont get it....
Mostly all Thai BL ACTORS support LGBTQ people even the homophobic ones......(I have seen this)......I think that scene there is very funny to me they had to do like that when infact they actors are doing the same on how they criticize.....
BEN is gay in real life as well.....
So the script writers, what were they trying to say?BL ACTORS in Thailand do support LGBTQ people..they are every where during the gay month or parade ......
And also I don't believe for a fact ZEE AND NUNEW are a couple, the bl actors are always like this....people(Fans) needs things like this and that OAF(the co owner of DOMUNDI)is conniving person .....
The only one who did not did too much fanservice is brightwin but still they are popular and people still consider them best friends for zeenunew it looks a little bit real i dont blame mew mame always makes their actors actors to do heavy fanservice take example of love in the Air
Hope Mew can handle not having to do fan service with his Korean co-star. I'm starting to think I liked him as Tharn more than I ever actually liked him.
Celebrity apologies all seem to follow the same script. I don't take them seriously at all, because they're just put out for damage control.
Prom's indiscretions bothered me the most. Pre-school girls? I know teenage boys are "curious" but that young is just...no (why would his friends be impressed with him peeping at them, anyway?). He's why it's advised not to let teenage boys babysit.
It also really bothered me that he targeted gay classmates for bullying, and now he wants to find fame as a BL actor (he's still young, so his bullying wasn't that long ago). If GMMTV wants to keep him, he needs to stay a background character -- he doesn't deserve a ship
I love fan service but see it for what it is. These lads are actors after all!! Some better than others. Some go overboard!! I believe in some of the pairings and are platonic soulmates and it does show in the chemistry they produce when together such as jimmysea,firstkhao, yinwar, joongdunk etc. When u find someone youre at ease working with ,and are with day in day out of course you'll want to spend most of your time with them. They bring out the best in each other.It's also a protection blanket for each other as we know the industry itself isn't a healthy one in most cases. Fans need to see fan service for what it is...no more shipping them as romantic couples...just see the beautiful friendships these lads have with each other and their amazing acting abilities. ❤️
I swear its always something with the bl community i really wish they people actually respect the lgbtq society and not look at it as a joke 😒 and fan service does not help
💯agreed to you what you said about Those BL actors who don't do unnecessary fan service and still are successful and popular in industry. This whole fanservice theory is baseless. I mean it's fine if you just promote your projects, but sometimes actors are pressured by higher ups and creative or companies to gain attention. But I personally believe that if any couples are dating, then they should say so clearly rather than showing intimacy on camera.
Let just put it this way. Some of us did stupid things when we were very young. The only different is whether we owned the mistakes, accept punishment, apologized, moved on and try to be a better person OR you remain a bad person.
Please make more videos about what happening behind the scenes and with our favourite actors.
Queer batting through fan service has crossed the line in recent years. One once were the occasional harmless flirt or promotional reference to the series has turned into some companies making their actors shamelessly convince fans that they are actually a couple off screen. Of course it’s not all companies and there are actors who have said no, but the focus on queer batting for profit is alarming.
I'm disappointed in Foei. I mean come on a Tomi Lahren video?
Fanservice can also be harmful in the case of if some actors actually do have chemistry choose to be in a relationship together fans would be skeptical and it could also be harmful to their relationship 😕
My take on this is that those bullies/homophobes are either really jealous of that person especially if they are successful, or they are closeted and haven't accepted who they really are.... #RealTalk
heyyo i agree with you on a lot of aspect. the best part is you explained both the side of the contraversy so i have nothing much to say 🫠
what did you mean by tay tawan leaving ??
Tay Tawan left the safehouse for several episodes (for work, if I'm not mistaken.) It was planned, so they all knew he would be gone. The controversy occurred during the filming of the dinner the night before he was scheduled to be leaving.
@@KD-fv8mp ohhh thanks🫠 but Planned??!!! kinda confused😥
@@24-7SebongCarat I assume there was a schedule conflict between Safehouse filming and Tay Tawan's other work. Newie also had to leave after only a couple episodes.
@@KD-fv8mp ohhok thanks for sharing 🫡🥹
i meant he was leaving safe house 😁 and thankyou for liking the vide
OMG, even other actors are catching strays. I saw people talking about the Prom/Mark scandal, dragging Prom... but they were confusing them with 2 other actors named Prom/Mark - Prom Ratchapat Worrasarn and Mark Siwat Jumlongkul, and apparently YinWar stars got worried and started contacting classmates of YinWar and asking what they were like in school. Everyone they contacted said YinWar were just regular dudes in school. Even one time a girl that was built bigger than War had o carry boxes somewhere and War helped her carry the boxes even tho he's so tiny. LOL
anyway, this is all so interesting, t4p. I'm glad this is all cleared up, because I was really side-eyeing Prom (YinWar's friend Prom)
Yinwar and earthmix all four of the have never been problematic in their school and uni lives, all their classmates said they were kind and nice people 🥰
It was full interested video 👌
Thank you 😊🙏
Thankyou ❤️
this made me sad i happen to have fallen inlove with the BL genre im hoping that both actors and production people will be protected from any form of abuse and that fans will be more sensible in their indulgences when it comes to supporting their idols. be kind everyone!
Fascinating very interesting analysis of all of the scandals and conspiracy involving some of Thai BL Actors
Thankyou
You’re welcome
Know how to separate reality and fantasy. They do these things to earn money. That's why we should just ship the characters they portray not them in real life.
I never understood why so many fans fall for fanservice. Like have they never seen a couple in real life to not be able to tell the difference?even though every relationship is different, a real couple always looks and feels different. Its always the little things and not the overdose of PDA we are subjected to by fanservice couples. The classic e.g. is mewgulf. Seriously, i never understood why people fell for that. It was so obviously fanservice. I could tell that they were friends but i never once believed them to be real. I saw so many angry comments when the news broke out about mew having someone in his life and him basically telling it was all fanservice (although he didnt phrase is exactly like that but that is what he meant).
just my opinion on zeenunew i really like their sweet moments . But i don't think they are in a relationship they are doing fan service cause they have two more bl projects coming and to keep the fans more invested in them they have to do this heavy fan service for making the upcoming series popular . i don't how can fans assume that they have relationship when they keep it so vague about it . i know its their personal life i have no right to say anything about it but zeenunew fans also has no right to assume that they are in a relationship until they say it themselves without keeping it vague .