Great review, thanks! I bought my SB4.5 earlier in the summer and cannot believe what an amazingly stable bike it is on the downhill and it climbs beautifully, too. That said, your comment about the bottle in the main triangle killed me, as I had an issue with that when I was looking to purchase. I'm glad I went with the Yeti and have a pretty decent Camelback that I actually like a lot as I can carry a bunch of xtras that I wouldn't normally think to carry. The 2019s have addressed it, but I LOVE my 4.5!
New camera settings? There seems to be a lot more crispness and detail in this video, picking out stuff on the trail is nicer and sharper. Excellent review. As someone who's ridden a lot with a fanny pack; waterbottle inside the triangle is getting to be a must for me. Especially now you can get all the different "enduro" straps for multi-tools, plugs, chain links etc.
I've told many people that for us that ride in the rockies that water bottle is not for water, its for carrying bear spray in a place I could get to it fast. It is needed 100% or no buy. We use what is called a Bearcozy that holds the spray inside it.
Super vid Jason! You’re spot on! Like what your friend said - like to see more rear travel and 150 - fox 36 in the front = sb130. Can’t wait man! Good stuff, keep it up! 🤘
Always enjoy your trail tests of these bikes, especially using the same trail for more accurate comparison and evaluation. I wish you had illustrated the seat post discussion a little better; I felt left out.
hum, Yeah... Tyler was just saying how he wished he had a 150mm dropper seat post on the sb100 so it could go a little lower and be more out of the way... the Beti we rode had a 125mm dropper post... the problem for us shorter guys is where the seat is so low already to accommodate our shorter legs, the rear tire comes so close to where our back-side is when the seat is dropped and we're off the back of the bike..
Love these comparison videos with your friend’s comments. Do you make a distinction between technical climbing and climbing efficiency? For examole my sc ht is reasonably efficient climbing, but took a bit of messing around with the rear shock to get good technical climbing traction (ended up going with a dvo)
Unfortunately, there's not a lot of really techy climbs in my area... some loose traction sections but that's more a point of momentum/speed and good tires. Mostly I'm talking about efficiency. Good point Bill, thx!
Great vid! So many great bikes, what do you think you would pick out sb100, new pivot 429 and RM instinct? Looking to sort of size down from my specialized Enduro as I think it’s just too much bike for my local trails.
Yeah, any of those bikes would be in my opinion much better than a spesh enduro haha sorry to say it ;) Of the 3 you mentioned, the Pivot Trail 429 would be my pick! (not to be confused with the previous Mach 429 Trail... hard pass on that bike)
Are you able to get your hands on any Commencal bikes? I was looking at the meta tr 27 but not much reviews on them. Look good for the money though. Anyone else in the comments have any time on these bikes?
Yeah, after spedings an entire week on the 100 it's safe to say that it's the replacement bike for the 4.5 and Yeti will be coming out with the SB130 in the next few weeks... I filmed this video over a month ago before I knew about the sb130
I was just gonna ask you about SB100 vs SB4.5/SB120(?) for 2019 in the other video. Glad I waited lol This video is perfection lol. I'll probably wait for the SB"120" too.Hopefully it's 120R/140F or 150 in LR
Did they confirm the sb130 or are you leaking us some info? *Evil smile*. I feel like the sb100 is more of a replacement for ASR, and the 4.5 will get upsized to a 120 or even 130mm rear to have better product differential. Now that I think about it... 130mm makes more sense for their product line. But as you have realized in this video/2 weeks, the modern geometry really does make the shocks ride like a longer travel bike. So I personally feel 120/140 would've been perfect. Each to their own though. Mock product line for 29er? XC+ - SB100 Trail - SB130 (130R/150F)... although I still would've preferred a 120r/140f w/150LR Enduro - SB150
haha, no I don't think I'm leaking anything haha it's out there.. should be official on the 10th of Sept. If it's a 120/140 bike you're after, go check out my Pivot Trail 429 video... I've been loving that bike. Rode it this morning!
J, may not be ideal for ya but check out king cage stem mount for water bottle....I use it on my yeti and love it.....once you get use to having a water bottle that close you will never go back....👍
MTB yumyum it is, at first I thought man that just looks odd, until I realized how great it was to be able to grab the bottle so quick. I find myself drinking a little more with it so close.
haha yep.... I filmed this about a month ago before I new any of the details of the 130. Sounds like a bigger bike to me and the 100 is the replacement for the 4.5
Smuggler is not really a competitor--that bike is more similar to the SB130. Id be interested in the Blur TR--but really this bike is a Tallboy competitor.
Nice review. I would agree that the SB100 descends surprisingly well. I also got a chance to ride the Yeti SB100 earlier this year back-to-back with the Yeti SB 4.5, Santa Cruz Tallboy, and Pivot Trail 429. My ride impressions are posted at: www.dirtmerchantbikes.com/special-events/2018/11/27/mid-travel-29er-trail-bike-comparison-test-pivot-trail-429-santa-cruz-tallboy-yeti-sb-45-yeti-sb100
jason, lately you have been reviewing the equivalent to top of the line Mercedes or BMW's.. How about reviewing some bikes that you don't have to be a Hedge fund exec to afford..
If you are worried about a water bottle just get a bottle with a long strap that you can put around your neck. Kinda like how a women carries her purse. I like this better because when I am riding really hard I do not want my water bottle to fly out and get lost. When I had a water bottle cage, every time I would pop off of something I would lose my bottle.
Great review, thanks! I bought my SB4.5 earlier in the summer and cannot believe what an amazingly stable bike it is on the downhill and it climbs beautifully, too. That said, your comment about the bottle in the main triangle killed me, as I had an issue with that when I was looking to purchase. I'm glad I went with the Yeti and have a pretty decent Camelback that I actually like a lot as I can carry a bunch of xtras that I wouldn't normally think to carry. The 2019s have addressed it, but I LOVE my 4.5!
Nice, congrats on the new bike.
Appreciate that you acknowledge the importance of having a water bottle in the main triangle. At least Yeti is making the change with their new bikes.
Word has it the new 2019 bikes will have lifetime warranty, including the SB 100 that we’re released earlier. Nice to see Yeti stepping that up!
Yeah, I saw that... good step in the right direction for sure!
word is they're going direct buy in December and this came from very good sources
Steven Goggans ......really?? Will they pass along the savings?
It's true. We picked up 2 yeti 2019 bikes today, both with lifetime warranty.
Brigita Taure nice! Have fun
Can’t wait to see you test the SB130 and SB150 Jay. Great time to be alive 😜👍🏼
Seriously, I can't wait to ride those bike... the numbers look bang on! Honestly though, I really liked that 100
Just when ya think you might drop the coin on a 4.5 they hit the ground with the SB130. Can't wait to see your review of it.
About the "pushing you forward", the rebound was probably set more open/faster on the sb100 vs his 4.5.
New camera settings? There seems to be a lot more crispness and detail in this video, picking out stuff on the trail is nicer and sharper. Excellent review. As someone who's ridden a lot with a fanny pack; waterbottle inside the triangle is getting to be a must for me. Especially now you can get all the different "enduro" straps for multi-tools, plugs, chain links etc.
Thanks! Yeah, water bottle in the triangle is a big deal for me!
I've told many people that for us that ride in the rockies that water bottle is not for water, its for carrying bear spray in a place I could get to it fast. It is needed 100% or no buy. We use what is called a Bearcozy that holds the spray inside it.
Super vid Jason! You’re spot on! Like what your friend said - like to see more rear travel and 150 - fox 36 in the front = sb130. Can’t wait man! Good stuff, keep it up! 🤘
haha yeah, that's going to be a sick bike for sure!
Can't wait till you drop in on the new SB150! But $8600?!?!?! OUCH! Thanks for your reviews, Jason! You and I are the exact same size and weight.
Outback Wack yep.. That's how Yeti rolls with their pricing!
Would be rad if you could demo an Esker Cycles Elkat at Outerbike Moab in fall! Sadly, there arenˋt any demos where I live.. Great video!
Always enjoy your trail tests of these bikes, especially using the same trail for more accurate comparison and evaluation. I wish you had illustrated the seat post discussion a little better; I felt left out.
hum, Yeah... Tyler was just saying how he wished he had a 150mm dropper seat post on the sb100 so it could go a little lower and be more out of the way... the Beti we rode had a 125mm dropper post... the problem for us shorter guys is where the seat is so low already to accommodate our shorter legs, the rear tire comes so close to where our back-side is when the seat is dropped and we're off the back of the bike..
Love these comparison videos with your friend’s comments. Do you make a distinction between technical climbing and climbing efficiency? For examole my sc ht is reasonably efficient climbing, but took a bit of messing around with the rear shock to get good technical climbing traction (ended up going with a dvo)
Unfortunately, there's not a lot of really techy climbs in my area... some loose traction sections but that's more a point of momentum/speed and good tires. Mostly I'm talking about efficiency. Good point Bill, thx!
Could you do a demo of a Yeti SB5 2019? And have you demo’d the Diamond Back 5C?
Would love to see what you think of the 5C compared to other bikes.
I already demo'd and reviewed the Yeti SB5... check it out on my channel
are you going to review the mach 6 on your usual trails? It seemed like moab wasn't the best place to test it.
Great vid! So many great bikes, what do you think you would pick out sb100, new pivot 429 and RM instinct? Looking to sort of size down from my specialized Enduro as I think it’s just too much bike for my local trails.
SC Tallboy too
Yeah, any of those bikes would be in my opinion much better than a spesh enduro haha sorry to say it ;) Of the 3 you mentioned, the Pivot Trail 429 would be my pick! (not to be confused with the previous Mach 429 Trail... hard pass on that bike)
MTB yumyum haha don’t even worry about it man the things a pig!!! And yeah that bike looks sweet
Are you able to get your hands on any Commencal bikes? I was looking at the meta tr 27 but not much reviews on them. Look good for the money though. Anyone else in the comments have any time on these bikes?
Great review. What wheel set was he rocking on the 4.5? You need to come out to Colorado where they design these bikes and ride. :-)
I'd love to come ride CO some time... Grand Junction looks particularly awesome!
Thanks for the review. I have the 4.5 and I’ve toyed with selling it and going for the SB100. Great information and comparison.
Yeah, after spedings an entire week on the 100 it's safe to say that it's the replacement bike for the 4.5 and Yeti will be coming out with the SB130 in the next few weeks... I filmed this video over a month ago before I knew about the sb130
I was just gonna ask you about SB100 vs SB4.5/SB120(?) for 2019 in the other video. Glad I waited lol This video is perfection lol. I'll probably wait for the SB"120" too.Hopefully it's 120R/140F or 150 in LR
The replacement for the 4.5 is the sb100... there's a new bike called the sb130. 130mm rear, 150mm front
Did they confirm the sb130 or are you leaking us some info? *Evil smile*. I feel like the sb100 is more of a replacement for ASR, and the 4.5 will get upsized to a 120 or even 130mm rear to have better product differential. Now that I think about it... 130mm makes more sense for their product line. But as you have realized in this video/2 weeks, the modern geometry really does make the shocks ride like a longer travel bike. So I personally feel 120/140 would've been perfect. Each to their own though.
Mock product line for 29er?
XC+ - SB100
Trail - SB130 (130R/150F)... although I still would've preferred a 120r/140f w/150LR
Enduro - SB150
It's definitely a thing that's coming. Yeti even leaked it on their own website last night, but have since taken it down.
that explains why they have a random empty space on their bike page haha. If it's the 130, ill probably go sb100 then
haha, no I don't think I'm leaking anything haha it's out there.. should be official on the 10th of Sept. If it's a 120/140 bike you're after, go check out my Pivot Trail 429 video... I've been loving that bike. Rode it this morning!
J, may not be ideal for ya but check out king cage stem mount for water bottle....I use it on my yeti and love it.....once you get use to having a water bottle that close you will never go back....👍
interesting, I've never seen that before...
MTB yumyum it is, at first I thought man that just looks odd, until I realized how great it was to be able to grab the bottle so quick. I find myself drinking a little more with it so close.
SB 4.5 @‘a discount in 2019 worth it ? Under 3k ridden 4 xs
yeah, if that's the budget you're in... loved that bike for sure!
Yeti 5.5 or ibis ripmo - which one do you prefer? And which one climbs better
SB4.5 is not offered in 2019. Only SB100 and 150. Nice comparison!
well, they also have new sb5 and sb6 's
SB 130 coming soon ...
Hi! Can you do I bike review of the new yeti SB 150...
Great video! You may need to do a follow-up when the SB130 comes out to replace the 4.5. ;)
haha yep.... I filmed this about a month ago before I new any of the details of the 130. Sounds like a bigger bike to me and the 100 is the replacement for the 4.5
@@mtbyumyum 48 and Ohh! Congrats😁 and thanks for the Vids.
Have you ever accidentally met someone new, and said “Hey my name is Jason and I’m 5’8”” haha. Good vid :)
haha that's funny... I guess I've sort of developed some "go to" word tracks on the bike... I'll have to be more aware of that in future video's haha!
MTB yumyum lol just yanking your chain. It’s actually super relevant for fitment! Keep rocking dude! :)
So which would would make the best light trail bike ?
I guess it all depends on your terrain and riding style.... I could probably get by with that SB100 and be pretty happy!
@@mtbyumyum that's what I am thinking thanks for the reply
Do the new 2019 Trek Remedy 9.9!
I've got it on the list... maybe end of September
Grate review there Jason sound good bike ;0)
Jason, you mentioned the 4.5 has a lighter wheelset on it. Which wheelset is being used on the SB4.5?
Reynolds back label trail wheels
Vs Intense Sniper??
Funny you mention that... the guy in the video, Tyler, just ordered a Sniper frame to build up!!!
@@mtbyumyum apparently similar to SB100 but quite a bit cheaper?? been enjoying your vids, keep up the good work. 🖖🏿💦💦💦
Or the 2019 Primer!
Ride the carbon transition smuggler and the santa Cruz blur
Smuggler is not really a competitor--that bike is more similar to the SB130. Id be interested in the Blur TR--but really this bike is a Tallboy competitor.
@@erikjorgenson9826. I was asking for him to test the smuggler and blur separately dude. Think you misinterpreted what I meant
Can I put a 2 cycle motor on it
Hey J Did you see the new SB150?
dude, looks money!!! Can't wait to ride it!
@@mtbyumyum SB130 would be what your friend talked about. The prophecy became reality!
what is the lumbar hydration pack your bud has?
It's just a home made jobber.... my other buddy has a really nice pack that I'll be featuring on the channel soon...
Are all the infinity fox systems the same on each bike
no they've recently switch things up... pun intended ;)
@@mtbyumyum Ok I've just ordered a sb4.5 2018 so looking forward to it 👍
Really hear that hub......is it a CK?
I9
Does anyone offer a rear plastic 'skid-fender' with a Teflon underside so if you do go a bit too low you don't emasculate yourself?
Your boy looks like Neil from GMBN
haha yeah, he sort of does.. funny!
What tires on sb4.5 ?
DHR II 2.3 front Minnion SS rear
Yup but no mid travel 29 er.
sb130 coming Sept. 10th
Nice review. I would agree that the SB100 descends surprisingly well. I also got a chance to ride the Yeti SB100 earlier this year back-to-back with the Yeti SB 4.5, Santa Cruz Tallboy, and Pivot Trail 429. My ride impressions are posted at: www.dirtmerchantbikes.com/special-events/2018/11/27/mid-travel-29er-trail-bike-comparison-test-pivot-trail-429-santa-cruz-tallboy-yeti-sb-45-yeti-sb100
Rad, thanks Jeff... I'll check it out
what tire / rim combo on that 4.5?
Reynolds carbon wheels, DHR II 2.3 front Minion SS rear
I know you’re busy and all but, SB130. :))
haha yep, working on it!
what are does hubs? i9's?
👍
19’ specialized epic evo ... lifetime always and carbon lifetime wheels too ✊🏻 & why does yeti make bikes with no water bottle holder ... 🤨🤯
No more yeti 4.5....
yeah, too bad. It was a great bike!
jason, lately you have been reviewing the equivalent to top of the line Mercedes or BMW's.. How about reviewing some bikes that you don't have to be a Hedge fund exec to afford..
hahaha, yes, you're right. It's just the bikes I've had access too...
If you are worried about a water bottle just get a bottle with a long strap that you can put around your neck. Kinda like how a women carries her purse. I like this better because when I am riding really hard I do not want my water bottle to fly out and get lost. When I had a water bottle cage, every time I would pop off of something I would lose my bottle.