How To Re-string A Floyd Rose
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Thank you so much, Phil! You just completely cured me of ever wanting a guitar with a Floyd Rose. \m/
Its not difficult at all, people make it sound harder than it is. It takes only 10 min if you are used to it. Perfect tuning stability and I even use a Floyd Rose Special, which people say sucks haha. Its all about a correct set up!
@@MG-ln1yw definitely. I've had a Schaller Floyd, licensed, and Special, and I never had an issue with either of them. Setup IS key, as you stated. A spacific set of strings, will almost always ensure near perfect bridge return also.
I found it easier too, during the winding step. I string up all the strings, with no string slack, do the "tune o matic," string tie at the key. While the bridge is down, and after I string up all the strings, I found it easier than a block, to wind each string in sets of twos. Both Es at the same time, A and B, then D and G little bits at a time, until the bridge plate goes back to flush with top. I discovered, that almost always, when the bridge is flush, the tuning goes back to the previous tuning. I skip the string stretch, and dip and raise the bar a few times for strerching. Tune with the keys again, stretch with the trem, tune again, until the tuning stays in tune. Believe it or not, it will stay in tune once they've stretched enough. That's when I lock and fine tune. But that worked for me, so far I haven't seen anyone else do it. But the springs and strings and adding tension, is sort of like bolting a flange for heavy steal piping, and or tightening bolts on your tire. Generally you would use a star method of tightening, so that one side of a flange doesn't leak and adds equal pressure around the flange, like your tire. Same with the Floyd, little bits of tension two strings at a time helps bring the bridge back where it was.
Here is the trade. Take all the time you spend tuning and retuning your fixed bridge guitar, total all that up over the course of a year and it will be way longer than the time to properly set up your floyd rose. Change one string at a time and its easy. The only time it's hard is if you completely remove the floyd and the claw underneath. Changing guage strings also causes a headache. But I've used the same guage for 20 years. As Guitarists we get very set in our ways like an old mechanic... "Carburetors are way easier and better than fuel injection!''... Nope you just have to learn it.
Once the guitar is tuned and the springs are in balance and if you never change gauges, brand or tuning, you can have a lot of fun with the FR. ;-)
Philip, thanks again. I've been playing Floyds since 1983. Jacksons, Kramers and custom V. Some floating some to the body ala Eddie. I prefer the one at a time method. With the floating bridge it should be level with the body and once the new string is stretched out and tuned to pitched the bridge will be level again. I love changing strings and my friends guitars too. Installing strings on new build can be more difficult and time consuming. Look forward to all your videos.
@ 3:58
Phil: you dont always have to use your ear, use your other senses.
Me: starts violently licking the strings
Just restrung my son's floyd guitar. (squier contemporary) -- B/c of your teaching, bought the tremblock and followed your instructions. So much easier than before. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
I might buy a Floyd rose guitar now, I feel less intimidated, your videos are great!
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I felt a litttle guilty about saying that as well. Lol
Their precision screwdrivers with all sizes of hex heads is pretty handy for RC and Guitar and a lot of their stuff is fine for light to medium duty if your not a pro who uses the tools all day every day.
Harbor Freight doesn't sell the greatest tools, but if you can't afford snapon or kobalt, it's the place to go.
Plus a lot of their stuff has a lifetime warranty so you really can't lose.
I used a Harbor Freight chainsaw sharpener wheel for 2 seasons as a full time climber. I had a coupon, think it was $25 out the door. Sold it on Craigs for 30 bucks when I got a real one. I probably sharpened 25 chains with it, and they are big Stihl pro saws. Also got their soldering gun kit that I've used exclusively for guitars, cords and I fixed a TS9 with it...ten bucks. HF is okay if ya know what to get and its not critical.
Definiely a big help for those with limited experience. Well done Phil.
I literally spent all morning dealing with this nonsense! I just finished 20 minutes before I saw this video! lol! Such good advice!
All my Floyds are non floating. Makes it easier to deal with. Awesome Phillip!
Same here Johnny! Less grief and more playing!
How is that possible?
I knew the theory behind this but spent a morning getting my Ibanez FR adjusted/intonated correctly. To adjust the height and intonation, I just removed the strings on the back which took the tension off and so could increase/decrease the pivot screw height and the saddles back and forth. Putting the springs back should get the guitar nearly back in tune. You definitely need to do this a few times and then you get a "feel" and become one with the Floyd. It's a challenge but one well worth it :)
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I use the backplate that covers the cavity the springs are in. Works the same way.
No shit. He literally used junk mail to show you can use anything
Damn. I just set up my floyd from scratch using your method. Cool vid. Worked perfect. When I was a teen i literally thought i broke my guitar after changing strings and sold it for 60 dollars. If I only knew then. Took this long to try a floyd again.
Thanks! I’ve watched a bunch of other videos on this subject and not knowing anything I could see they were over complicating things. Thanks for this simple fix. I need to find someone who can 3D print a block or spacer to restrict the bridge when not needed.
Thanks for another great instructional video, Phil. After watching this video, I'm thinking how much I really love my Bigsby.
Love that paint swirl👍
Hydro dipping, it does some neat effects.
@@TheRealReTox yeah it does. I've been thinking about trying it. I build some custom guitars and basses, just as a hobby. I might give it a try. Soon but I've building a bound Tele bass short scale right now.
@@j_freed LOL washbum. You know the best sounding acoustic guitar I ever heard was an old 12 string Washburn. It was piano loud too.
@@UncleDanBand64 I've been daring myself to try it with and older guitar I got. It "looks" easy enough to do but we know how that goes.
@@TheRealReTox yeah man go for it. All you need is a Squire a barrel some water and paint. I've got a ton of Bronco bass bodies. All I use is the necks from them. I might just give it a try on one. I've got a stack of them.
Wow. I had an LTD Kirk Hammett that was so awesome I could remove all the strings, all the blocks, the locking nut and all the strings. Restring put blocks back, tune, replace nut, and shred without even touching the springs and the floyd stayed perfectly floating every time with no issues....swear to God it took less then 10 minutes to change the strings with no problems during or after...lol.
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Great video Phill, and very helpful for those struggling changing there strings on a floyd, Cheers
Man. Tiny pieces you can easily lose and break. All this setting up. Floyd rose is such a nightmare
Wow, that made sense, even to me! Thanks for that...you rock, Phil!
I think a 59 Les Paul in perfect condition would be scarier to restring but that's just me
I know a lot of players that dont cut the ball and of the string off they string it through the tuning peg.I have never tried that but they swear by it.
This was very helpful. You know, you'd think that they could include a built-in spring/string relief mechanism, like a bolt that slides and locks from either direction in the body to hold the block in place just so.
*_THE SPOOKIENESS INTENSIFIES_*
Philip, I'm thankful that you, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Nuno, George Lynch and many others aren't afraid of Floyds like a lot of your viewers. Great tip on the little blocks , stretching and being easy.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, wait a sec there Phil.................Harbor Freight coupons are NOT "junk" mail!! 😝
Not that anyone care,..... but I string my guitar the other way. I leave the ball on the string, and tread it from the neck and down to the bridge... I don't see no reason to string it like an old Fender when I have Floyd Rose. I also leave 2-3 warps on the machine head, just in case string breaks while playing live, I just give it "more string" from the machine head. I don't need to change the string.
That's how I do it too...
I've been stringing my Floyds like that for years. I see it as a poor mans locking tuner. I have one guitar that I don't even use the locking nut, because I don't drop the bar enough to make the strings go slack, but the ball in the tuner prevents the string from slipping.
I do the same thing, Tony.
Using the "One for One" replacement method has been the fastest for me when the goal is to get back to a stable and tuned instrument as quick as possible. While the technique shown here may be faster to physically replace the strings, the re-tuning takes much longer (in my experience) as the strings stretch unevenly all at once. Still, Floyds are easy compared to those pin-ended Bigsby's that are strung over a floating bridge! I fear for my safety every time I change my Gretsch strings.
I always loaded the ball end at the tuning key, no slip no problem
I did too. I used D'Addario strings, so I had pretty colors on the headstock. lol!
this video is perfect!
Thank you 🙏
You should give a try at the Billy Edwards Finger tile Locking nut. Pretty sweat.
I wonder if anyone else uses the same method I do. I always switch all strings at once (I like to clean the neck and polish/oil if needed). Then using a poly tune I start to tune the strings towards pitch, tuning half a turn before jumping to the next string. Quickly it will be in tune. Stretch, play lots of bends, retune a few times, lock, done.
The key is the polytune, makes it go quite fast.
Imagine, if you will, a world where 12 string guitars have Floyd Rose locking bridges.
A floyd rose is like a good woman.
It takes some work, but in the end it's worth it.
Awesome! I bought a sweet, used Jem 7WH and I'm terrified to change strings or even tune it, to be honest. So I'm always super-appreciative for these vids re: floating bridge.
omfg what a pain in the fuckin ASSSSSS. Why would ANYONE wants this?!?
That's a babe of a guitar.
Thank you again for taking the stigma away from someone working on a Floyd Rose.
Exactly how I have been restringing my guitars with that set up for years using the Trem Lock and never had an issue.
Great job! This makes a Floyd far less intimidating and pairs well with Uncle Ben's video. I'm going to have to get a lefty now.
Good point about the fine tuners Phil \m/
Great tips. I've been having a little bit of difficulty getting one of the strings to lock in on my '92 Jackson Dinky XL. I just checked and, yep, the block is cracked into two pieces. Looks like I've been tightening them too much. Thanks.
What I don't understand is why you can't just use the TremBlock to keep the bridge level even if you have all strings off?
Thanks Phil. I am currently doing my first guitar build. I would like to use a Floyd Rose trem. This video helped me a great deal. Thanks so much for being such a great guy. Thanks again.
Good video! Two of my guitars have the FR tremolo, although I put a Tremol-No on one of them. I use the one string at a time method when replacing the strings and stretch them as I go. If I tune the low E to pitch it is an E flat by the time I get down to the high E string. Anyone else experience this? Does this imply there's something wrong with the guitars setup?
Thank you sir!
Tone vise looks cool. And floyd rose really arent that bad to deal with just gotta know what ur doing. Junk mail line was pretty funny and u dont gotta buy a special tool lol
I feel like patience is important. Probably worth it Long term
Am I the only one to notice the Nuno Bettencourt signature on the back?
Philip i have a shecter hellraiser hybrid c1 fr that badly needs sharpening please take it and sharpen it 😢
Dude, I just became a fan! Awesome videos. I just subscribed and gonna have a watchathon! Lol
Thanks brother.
Ty! I have an Ibanez but I have a Tremsetter. Cud you help explain a lil to make it easier on tuning? Thank you, Jim
Is that an N4? OMG the swirl!
I've had my Trem-lock since the '90s. A few years ago I wanted to gift one to a friend and I looked all over the internet for days and could not find one, I figured they just stopped making them. So.....who's selling these now?
i broke my saddle when i changed string
Don’t you need to let the strings settle before locking the nut down?
I'm soooo jealous of the autographed N4
I wish I had one of these real Floyd Roses. My beloved 80's MIJ Strat has the Fender System 1 trem and it drives me insane. Even with locking tuners, roller bridge, and trem-setter, it is still super finicky. Have you ever played with a System 1? Would love to see some tips about it.
That is the coolest N4 I've ever seen!! Wow!!
I saw the video i went like "N4 LETS GO"
I like the concept of the Floyd Rose tremolo system but I hate the execution. Everything is hold together by tension, pieces of metal pressing on the strings. I don't like having to cut the ball end of the string and keep it in place with a small metal piece, why is that a good idea?. isn't that the whole purpose of the ball end?
Thank you so much for this. I've been playing a couple years now and wanted a floyd rose but all my freinds brought up the fact they're a b**** to work with but this definitely has brought my hopes up lol🤘
Been struggling with string changes on my floyd for ages. This video has been my saviour! Thank you
Oh man I love that guitar!!! Great Nuno signature!! I I absolutely love his solo work....
lol thx for the video i’ve been struggling so much with my floyd rose on my jackson until i watched this video
Wow that guitar is freakin amazing🔥⚡
I have never seen an N4 as crazy as this one. Would love to know when they made these.
Thanks phil this video really helps i ve bin struggling with my dkmg jackson's flyod and now its alot easier thanks agian
Good vid. I started putting a Tremol-NO on all my floating Floyd’s. Make this much faster and easier.
A beginner question: I've been thinking of buying the Tremol-No, so when installed, can we restring the guitar like a fixed bridge(I know I'm dumb😂)
@@eshaandaksh2968 exactly
Hey Phil. Thank you for the super usefull tech tips. I have the dumbest question EVER... How do HOLD floyd rose springs on the tremolo side? Not on the "spring plate" side. They keep jumping all the time! Aren't those supposed to hold on a balance? On my ibanez Lo Trs trem II they have some sort of a little hole that holds the spring, because it locks there. But on my Ibanez Jem Jr. Tremolo they keep jumping! Thanks in advance
Had an Ibanez S470 back in the late 90's. Loved the guitar - ended up hating the Floyd Rose after a while so I sold it. Hard tail all the way ever since! :-) This video would have probably saved me some frustration. Great video Phil!
I prefer adding tension to the springs until a block falls out, don't have to fiddle with getting stuff out from behind the springs.
Hey man, for you wich is better, fr special or fr original 1000 korea?
I love how in your videos you always have some nice little tool for the job, but then you're immediately like "Or you can just use some random junk from around the house so you don't have to spend money."
This method works, But I just leave the ball end on(don't cut it off) and run it through the tuning key and cut it at the tail of the Floyd Rose bridge. Gives you a perfect two-half wraps and your not fumbling trying to held the string in place while you turn the turner.
yep. i just restrung my floyd rosed schecter banshee for the first time and it took 2 and a half hours.but afterwards i played some EVH licks and it is all worthy:)))
Have a Washburn with a Floyd Rose, is about 25 years old, hated it ever since I changed the first set of strings. After watching the video, I'm convinced that the only thing it has going for it is it's going on Craigslist.
Restringing a Floyd Rose easily and quickly... just lock down the block in the back lol, jk, ty for the video.
Thank You Phillip, I just ordered my first Floyd Rose guitar from Sweetwater, cant wait to get it lol
I know this video is old, but I’m having trouble getting the thick E-string to sit in the tremolo, it keeps popping out as I tune it, and that obviously means I can’t use the whammy bar should I get it to sit, any advice on this?
Thanks in advance
@phillip McKnight what is the story behind the guitar? Did you buy it like that or you customized it? I digg it..do the rest of you guys digg it?
When I re strung my guitar, it went above level and I don’t know how to fix that
tighten the screws in the back. if it goes above level that means the springs are too loose. after youdo that retune the guitar and repeat if necessary
So glad I've never had any urge to buy a guitar with a Floyd Rose :)
They're really not as bad as they look. My first guitar had a Floyd Rose. Now I've got two with and two without.
nowI know why all my cheap Ibanez guitars cracked at the headstock when I was a teenager
I made the mistake of taking all the strings out so bringing the tremolo back up to stable position. I I have to use a set of strings that I didn’t mind messing up to get it right. All because I was in a hurry. 😒
Dude I have a B.S. In Physics and a Master s in Computer Modeling and I'm confused. I need to watch this a few times.
Oh man & I just happen to have a theoretical B.S. degree in Quantum Mechanics?...Either way, I ditched those Floyd Rose based headaches at 13, when my little 2 year old bull of a brother, did me the favor, of stomping the headstock off of my lazily placed goldenish 86' Ibanez, a neck through coil tapped pro line 2250 guitar, though the resulting Floyd Rose, allen wrenched balancing act high wire high action war with tunability resulted in based deep seated Trauma's, which decades later, has me effected as I'm obsessing over exclusively hardtail Fender strats. & In just these events, I scientifically vouch for and recommend, if not openly control freakishly compel, everyone in my particular chosen field, to immediately get associated, exclusively, with a solid state fixed bridge, as who could ever argue that the vibrations of life are not all too short, to be all self willingly getting off the rails, and tangled up in the weeds and Floyd Rose bushes ? Just get comfortable with dive bombing on whammy pedal, if you must?...LoL...8)
It’s really not hard once you get the hang of it. If you get a Floyd Rose right they play better than any solid bridge guitar. Also the floating bridge cancels out minor out of tuneness than compared to a fix bridge.
Vanessa Koh it’s funny people with all these $60,000 degrees can’t seem figure out how to get a Floyd rose setup ...
That's a fine looking guitar over there :)
So I am supposed to cut the ball off the string? Is that a Floyd Rose thing or are "Licensed by" Floyd Roses different?
I just replace the tuners with locking tuners and get rid of the locking nuts, and tune it using the tuner and the spring claws. It takes a bit longer, but eventually it gets in tune and the bridge is flush.
Hi Phillip, is it alright to adjust the action on a double locking tremolo with the the strings loosened? I just finished setting up my 7 string Edge Zero 2 and it took ages because I opted to remove the bridge to minimize the damage on the knife edges and posts because i wasn't sure of how durable the bridge was. What's your take on floyd action adjustment?
If you change one string at a time do you put something like junkmail under the tremelo with each string change and take it out as you tune each string?
A Floyd is not as scary as the truss rod. For most, they have no idea what it does, how it works or how to adjust it properly. That would be a good video to make.
Not gonna lie,
I'm still going to feel really stupid if I ever have to do this myself.
I just can't, that's too much, it makes me feel stupid looking at it, how am i supposed to be confident on this without breaking my shit lolol
i was planing to buy an hss strat with a floyd rose from the new player serier but fuck it its not worth going to all this trouble just so i can say that i have a beautiful guitar
Just buy a new guitar every month. EasyClap
Phillip you are a master in so many areas! I only play Floyd Rose guitars, and although it can take time to master a setup and re-string, this video makes it very easy! Thank you my friend for sharing your many skills with us! Your new guitar looks fantastic! Will you have other color or graphics options eventually?
restringing a floyd rose is way harder than it looks. Been playing guitar for 10 years and can't restring em :(
Thanks for the awesome video Phillip, glad I made the right choice in returning my floyd rose equipped guitar. Thanks
Hey can you make a video sharpen my axe on a amazon dean 1977 mlx or something similar
Great... Came to see if I don't know something about restringing Floyds and now I have to buy this MULTI-TASK LADDER... It's only $109.99!