Really great class! I like the idea of three W’s vs Lunar. Really good point about the Co2 retention on skip breathing. The music on this video is legit!
I agree. The number of people that get tripped up on lunar in regular practice environments leads me to believe the 3 w’s which are already pretty universal outside firefighting, would be a better option so people have to think less in the moment when an emergency does happen.
I would only change the order and start with where. The same reasoning we were taught L comes first in LUNAR. If your comms get cut, or stepped on, or anything else at the very least your last known location has been broadcast
@@Justinmoon81 you're probably just confusing Wheel breathing with a different technique. MSA SCBAs use a bell for an audible low pressure alarm located on the bottle connector or first stage regulator. They work differently and turning the bottle on and off will not save you any air on anything but a pack with Vibe alert.
Great info on calling mayday, As an alternative may I suggest the L.I.P. method, Same but different. Either way great info. LIP is L - location. I identity(who you are ) , P-Problem
Basically when you are in a situation that requires help, the best thing you can do is "easy breathing" meaning to focus on slowing your breathing and conserve your bottle.
Yo soy bombero aqui en Butler NJ y nuestros packs son de 30 mins o 45 mins. Depende de cuanto oxygeno uses y que tan rapido te lo acabes. Aqui en mi estacion somos voluntarios y la academia es de 200 horas de entrenamiento. Durante el ano tambien entrena mos en la estacion de bomberos pero si el promedio es de 30 minutos a 45 minutos.
I like the idea, of the 3 W's as this makes it easy however, IMO your first W should we Where as if things go bad real quick at least your where is know
many departments have moved away from the (slightly) more complex lunar acronym for the 3 w's due to simplicity and getting the most important info out during the first radio transmission.
SCBA training three victims two story house I entered with three man team I'm searching right on thermal Scott site pack found one victim extricated return to search notified team members my thermal went down blackout couldn't find my team members or see them now! the search carried on two more victims to recover fire attack team at stairway we checked air level as a team and continue upstairs 22% on bottle so flashing red search team continued search found no other victims fire team staged at stairway to exit as a team I just stepped out of the building air pack was depleted. Was a good training event for me I went to two Mayday conditions yet pressed on and now I understand don't step past Mayday conditions I should have exited the building when thermal went down but relied on Old School search techniques and carried on with the recovery do you think I should have discontinued the search or stayed in my course
Someone must have yelled that in your face when you were a probie. Nobody cares. Call it a bottle, a cylinder, an air tank, a pack, we all know what they mean. It’s like calling the circ saw a k-saw even though it’s a husky, just get the damn saw haha
Gentlemen outstanding video, I appreciate you all for taking the time and most of all for passing this know!!!
Great video! Thank you for sharing it, great soundtrack and editing!
Really great class! I like the idea of three W’s vs Lunar. Really good point about the Co2 retention on skip breathing. The music on this video is legit!
I agree. The number of people that get tripped up on lunar in regular practice environments leads me to believe the 3 w’s which are already pretty universal outside firefighting, would be a better option so people have to think less in the moment when an emergency does happen.
I would only change the order and start with where. The same reasoning we were taught L comes first in LUNAR. If your comms get cut, or stepped on, or anything else at the very least your last known location has been broadcast
Thank you!, clear and concise! Well done!
Great music!
I like the Wheel breathing technique but it should be mentioned that it will only work on Scott brand SCBAs with the VibeAlert
@@leviputter7645 😂 "Industry standard" yeah Ok 👍
We trained on this technique with my dept. It does work on MSA scba's.
@@Justinmoon81 you're probably just confusing Wheel breathing with a different technique. MSA SCBAs use a bell for an audible low pressure alarm located on the bottle connector or first stage regulator. They work differently and turning the bottle on and off will not save you any air on anything but a pack with Vibe alert.
@@arizonajostal4522My dept uses MSA packs. Do you know how the low pressure bell is activated? Is is just electronic?
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You know it’s a good bud when they start playing primus music when they talk about being out of air
Great info on calling mayday, As an alternative may I suggest the L.I.P. method, Same but different. Either way great info. LIP is L - location.
I identity(who you are ) , P-Problem
I like that. seems logical and simple
Location first is what I have been taught. Which makes sense if you don’t get a chance to say anything else
Thanks.
what does "easy breathing" mean?
Basically when you are in a situation that requires help, the best thing you can do is "easy breathing" meaning to focus on slowing your breathing and conserve your bottle.
This is a Good Video especially when you are Fire Fighting especially when someone is a Firefighter Man or Woman-Men&Women.
Wtf are you trying to say
Disculpe cuanta duración tiene el equipo de aire que usan
Yo soy bombero aqui en Butler NJ y nuestros packs son de 30 mins o 45 mins. Depende de cuanto oxygeno uses y que tan rapido te lo acabes. Aqui en mi estacion somos voluntarios y la academia es de 200 horas de entrenamiento. Durante el ano tambien entrena mos en la estacion de bomberos pero si el promedio es de 30 minutos a 45 minutos.
Is this aurora in Illinois?
Colorado
I thought they want location first just incase your radio cuts
LCAN
I like the idea, of the 3 W's as this makes it easy however, IMO your first W should we Where as if things go bad real quick at least your where is know
For the W's, that was my thought aswell.
It is now LUNAR
Location
Unit
Name
Assignment
Resources
many departments have moved away from the (slightly) more complex lunar acronym for the 3 w's due to simplicity and getting the most important info out during the first radio transmission.
@@ryannelson8918 yeah in my area and in the state test currently is still LUNAR
Have a nice day
When in doubt, Mayday out!!!
SCBA training three victims two story house I entered with three man team I'm searching right on thermal Scott site pack found one victim extricated return to search notified team members my thermal went down blackout couldn't find my team members or see them now! the search carried on two more victims to recover fire attack team at stairway we checked air level as a team and continue upstairs 22% on bottle so flashing red search team continued search found no other victims fire team staged at stairway to exit as a team I just stepped out of the building air pack was depleted. Was a good training event for me I went to two Mayday conditions yet pressed on and now I understand don't step past Mayday conditions I should have exited the building when thermal went down but relied on Old School search techniques and carried on with the recovery do you think I should have discontinued the search or stayed in my course
Who you are makes no difference to me. I don’t care who you are I want to know where you are. We are coming regardless of what your name is.
Babies use bottles. Firefighters use cylinders. Great video. Thank yall
Someone must have yelled that in your face when you were a probie. Nobody cares. Call it a bottle, a cylinder, an air tank, a pack, we all know what they mean. It’s like calling the circ saw a k-saw even though it’s a husky, just get the damn saw haha
Bottles are for babies tanks are for the military cylinders are for men
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