Lorewise this was a catastrophic loss for the Raven Guard. The Militia just need like a week to recruit that many infantry, and just need to empty an alley or 2 of their many Hive Cities. While the Raven Guard's going to need like a decade or 2 to replenish those marines. Great game though, glad you could save the footage, this was a ton of fun to watch.
In my head it’s the artillery that did it mainly. And explains why the marines like shock and awe. They get bogged down by heavy ordinance they are done son. They need to hit the enemy fast and rough and hard before the heavy ordinance looks at them.
I just love that there is so much militia on the table it was physically impossible for the Ravens to flank the army. The first turn: "oh that was some brutal shooting!" Then the camera pans up and shows you the other 7 1/2 feet of militia that are untouched.
Easily one of the best Deployment zones I've seen in over 20 years of Warhammer. Love Gaunt's Ghosts I main Raven Guard in HH. This is one of the greatest batreps I've ever repped. Keep up the great work, guys!
Was chuckling to myself about the absurdity of the militia army as they were being explained, let out a full on belly laugh when I saw the deployment zone! Brilliant stuff guys, was like a renaissance painting.
A few weeks back, when you last played James March of War, I commented that he never half arses anything, he full arses everything. This battle report and that Imperial Militia absolutely vindicate me. Holy. CRAP! Sultan, you really are a legend. I am beyond excited to see this battle play out!
I normally root for Winters and against Imperial Guard, but James is such a relaxed and fun player, and his army was so satisfyingly flimsy, that I found my self really conflicted.
It's Sunday, I need to clean the house, I need something entertaining to watch and listen to while I do so. Over the hill, like the coming of dawn, strides Winters with a 2 hour Horus Heresy battle report. I grasp my sponge, all is well.
Seeing the swarm of Imperialis Malitia has gotten me to pick up my paint brush and start on my Guardsmen again. Cheers! Got 50 of 330 infantrymen painted. Also I cheered at 1:19:00 when 15 seconds after saying "Im going to beat him with a stick," said levy then beat a space marine to death with several pointy sticks.
"One of the greatest games of Warhammer, I've ever Warhammed." 😄😄😄😄😄(Having watched it, I agree with Winters that this is a great game) Well done, Sultan, on helping an old man out with his shaky hands. The stabilization works well. That Guard Army looks great en masse; cool models with a really effective paint job. 55:00 A cavalry charge against artillery? I think Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote about that. 1:36:00 The Dark Furies atop the ruin, "Caw-caw! Caw-caw! Caw-caw!"
Best game I've ever seen - such a feeling of Astartes super-soldiers smashing puny humans left, right, and centre. It also feels so correct that hubris would mean they didnt bother bringing artificer armour.
The heavy support squads should've been able to reroll armour saves against the blasts due to having the heavy unit type. Either way, still a fantastic game.
Narratively the "mistake" makes more sense than the rule anyway. Cataphractii shrugging off blasts cos "heavy" makes sense, but when you're heavy due to big guns not tons of armour, it doesn't really figure.
Imperialis militia is the most fun ive ever had while playing a wargame. Their rules are complete bananas. Get yourself a buddy and give it a go on TTS. Amazing time. My tyrant general shot his remaining bodyguard and was the eviscerated by Kurze. Perfection. Thank you so much for this.
Excellent game! Heads up on your Heavy Weapon Squads, though - they have Heavy, so get to re-roll armour saves against blast weapons! It was cathartic, as a blast-heavy militia player myself, to see them actually out down those pesky Autocannon squads even so!
Ok, that was epic, so glad the footage was usable. Felt like a proper guard army doing what proper guard do facing down the terror of astartes. Even though it was HH, that was very very enojoyable.
Certainly one of the best battle report I ever seen, so much fun, so much artillery, so much troops ^^ A costly victory for the raven guard, for sure, but victory none the less. Thanks for the video :)
This Imperial Militia army is absolutely beautiful. They look like the jumped out of a grim dark graphic novel to become alive. Amazing paintjob! Hope to see them again. Tons of kudo to @Marchofwar for this army and to Sultan for rescueing this juwel of a battle report.
This was an absolute wonder to watch! If James wants to bring the militia back out once he has the tanks and things, the Death Guard would be such a great matchup too I suspect
Wow, hats off to sultan for sorting out the visuals and hats off to march of war for running a malitia army. I did once and won't be doing it again in a hurry 😂
Yeah militia are rough to play. The army isnt just bad, its shockingly bad. Idk who thought it was a good idea to make the battlecannon a small blast with ap4 on a 120 point tank. Not to mention 3rd line turning all glances into pens on it.
@sturm9087 I agree! I've played IG for decades and was hoping to use them in 30k. Sadly it's just is horribly unbalanced and weak. I had dreams of Solar Auxilia getting Vulture and Vendetta as a way to make them unique and more mobile, that won't likely happen. Instead our main transport gets hit with a weaker gun and most of the weird/fun choices removed. Heck they removed the weapon from the shuttle!
@@newtpondskipper definitely recommend you check out the panoptica fan patch for militia and solar auxilia. It makes the army so much more viable and fun to play, I know 3 militia players and they all use it for their armies. I wouldnt play my militia without it. Check out liber panoptica for the patch rules for the official militia stuff and liber imperatus for the rules for the rest of the imperial guard vehicles and equipment. It gives solar auxilia and militia access to valkyries and I think the other aircraft as well. They have different names but the stats and weapon loadouts are the same when you match them up.
Could just picture guardsmen being melted by the jet bike doing a skid turn in the arch, make an excellent art print! Holding the flag in the background on the bunker, someone with skills pls...
When I first made my guard army I had basilisks and infantry, I added mortars and autocannons and 1 lascannon because it fit my lore but there's so many cool models
Two things re: this battle. 1) Up until now, I have always believed that whoever rolls the most dice per turn, wins. Now, . . . 2) I have a little portable table I use for rolling dice on, to prevent knocking over terrain and rerolling dice sitting sideways. I can now add No Space Due To Models to my list.
Great batrep. I love my Militia, pain in the arse for events but otherwive I love them ❤ wish there was more batreps with militia out there. Only thing is I think the Las cannon rapiers are not able to make shooting reactions.
Fun little note about this video - if you watch closely enough you can see everything stretching when the camera moves. Nice work on cleaning it up Sultan - to get it this far is pretty amazing. Can't imagine how bad it was before.
Gotta get a pair of traitor armies vs this army with the goal being whichever traitor legion gets more points from killing the guardsmen wins. Would be hella cool.
Amazing militia army, these are all the valour korps, right? Did you scrape off all the -V- shapes on the helmets etc? that was always the thing keeping me from printing an army of them. No second providence is a waste though, why did you decide to do that? It's not like they are op.
If we do get the 3.0/2.5 edition update next year, I do hope they get the armies closer in balance. I’m never looking for 1 to 1 balance, but they can get a lot closer than they currently are. Making the legions closer and making SA, Militia, and Mechanicum able to actually go up against astartes and have a chance without only able to play a very specific list and that’s your only option. Give guard and solar and knight players a chance. I know Mechanicum can win, but it seems you have to run more specific units all the time. It just limits the list options. Great game though. I know Lore Reasons, but it’s also a game and we should want as many different players and armies and combos as possible. Here’s hoping.
@@jamesmarch7824 Units containing one or more models with the artillery subtype can't run, declare or make charges, or make Reactions. It's one of the bullet points of the Artillery subtype.
I'm not sure if you've changed the settings on your camera winters, but you've got a weird warping effect on this video and the one with the eldar where the farground seems to get warped. It's causing me to feel motion sick when watching, haha. I always love your videos so this is a new undesirable challenge!
Playing anything non-marine is already playing hard mode. This is just 'chef's kiss'
Sultan, you absolute legend. Not only did you help out Winters but you've come through for his viewers as well! Thanks for being awesome!
❤
Glorious Sultan Plays
Sultan for MVP.
@@SultanPlays40k Thank you for the hard work! This report is making my day!
Lorewise this was a catastrophic loss for the Raven Guard. The Militia just need like a week to recruit that many infantry, and just need to empty an alley or 2 of their many Hive Cities. While the Raven Guard's going to need like a decade or 2 to replenish those marines.
Great game though, glad you could save the footage, this was a ton of fun to watch.
This is the reason they were nearly completely wiped out during the hersey. To many battle woth my miltita lol
In my head it’s the artillery that did it mainly. And explains why the marines like shock and awe. They get bogged down by heavy ordinance they are done son. They need to hit the enemy fast and rough and hard before the heavy ordinance looks at them.
The contemptor alone is worth every loss they took.
I just love that there is so much militia on the table it was physically impossible for the Ravens to flank the army.
The first turn: "oh that was some brutal shooting!"
Then the camera pans up and shows you the other 7 1/2 feet of militia that are untouched.
Easily one of the best Deployment zones I've seen in over 20 years of Warhammer.
Love Gaunt's Ghosts
I main Raven Guard in HH.
This is one of the greatest batreps I've ever repped.
Keep up the great work, guys!
Was chuckling to myself about the absurdity of the militia army as they were being explained, let out a full on belly laugh when I saw the deployment zone! Brilliant stuff guys, was like a renaissance painting.
Cheers man, the deployment is daft isn't it
A few weeks back, when you last played James March of War, I commented that he never half arses anything, he full arses everything. This battle report and that Imperial Militia absolutely vindicate me. Holy. CRAP! Sultan, you really are a legend. I am beyond excited to see this battle play out!
I normally root for Winters and against Imperial Guard, but James is such a relaxed and fun player, and his army was so satisfyingly flimsy, that I found my self really conflicted.
@euansmith3699 I'm a guard player in 40k, so my allegiance is also split haha. Either way, this battle rep is utterly glorious!
@euansmith3699 cheers man, I find my self routing for winters aswell lol
It's Sunday, I need to clean the house, I need something entertaining to watch and listen to while I do so. Over the hill, like the coming of dawn, strides Winters with a 2 hour Horus Heresy battle report. I grasp my sponge, all is well.
I'm decorating and watching this for the 2nd time
*wipes tear*
Perfect. Another great quality militia bat rep. Absolutely love militia, but it's too hard to find one. Keep it up man
Now that's a proper guard army! I love it!
Cheers dude
Seeing the swarm of Imperialis Malitia has gotten me to pick up my paint brush and start on my Guardsmen again. Cheers! Got 50 of 330 infantrymen painted.
Also I cheered at 1:19:00 when 15 seconds after saying "Im going to beat him with a stick," said levy then beat a space marine to death with several pointy sticks.
I love the zoom, feels like you’re part of the story and much more intimate.
Yep!! I cannot watch any other battle reports I don’t know what is what, here winters takes us to every battle
This BatRep ist the good type of insanity. Thank you very much for the work to both of you. 🙂
"One of the greatest games of Warhammer, I've ever Warhammed." 😄😄😄😄😄(Having watched it, I agree with Winters that this is a great game)
Well done, Sultan, on helping an old man out with his shaky hands. The stabilization works well.
That Guard Army looks great en masse; cool models with a really effective paint job.
55:00 A cavalry charge against artillery? I think Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote about that.
1:36:00 The Dark Furies atop the ruin, "Caw-caw! Caw-caw! Caw-caw!"
Thank you!
Caw caw caw I'm a crow, bag I'm dead lol
Literally laughed out loud when the camera scanned over the deployment - epic work
14:00 "Brother what're you doing?"
*"I fly better backwards brother!"*
Absolutely amazing battle report! Watching hoard militia fight against near god-like astartes makes me want to start my own hoard militia.
James is an absolute madman! Its taken me about 5 months to paint 3 infantry models and he's painted over 500?!? What a legend.
Love your Heresy games Mr Winters. Watching your videos helped me learned how to play HH. Looking forward to watching this!
This humble guardsman salutes you
Returns salute
Shoehorned into the deployment zone, what a sight .. stunning.
Nice salvage Sultan. So enjoyable, thanks guys.
Best game I've ever seen - such a feeling of Astartes super-soldiers smashing puny humans left, right, and centre. It also feels so correct that hubris would mean they didnt bother bringing artificer armour.
It's soooo downheartening going against 2plus saves especially when they have a fnp included lol
@@jamesmarch7824 yeah, but you kicked a space marine to death with a bunch of levied grocers 😀
@finnmaccool3721 yeah we did. That's the way hahaha
The heavy support squads should've been able to reroll armour saves against the blasts due to having the heavy unit type. Either way, still a fantastic game.
Cheers dude
Narratively the "mistake" makes more sense than the rule anyway. Cataphractii shrugging off blasts cos "heavy" makes sense, but when you're heavy due to big guns not tons of armour, it doesn't really figure.
@@dominicskelton3031so true😂
It’s such a situational and small rule subtype change that it’s pretty common to just outright forget it
So awesome! I really hope we see more games with James' militia
53:25 is so wholesome. Interactions like that are a true hallmark of excellent sportsmanship and the true heart of the game. Well done!
Imperialis militia is the most fun ive ever had while playing a wargame. Their rules are complete bananas.
Get yourself a buddy and give it a go on TTS. Amazing time.
My tyrant general shot his remaining bodyguard and was the eviscerated by Kurze.
Perfection.
Thank you so much for this.
They are ace fun to play.
Well done Sultan on saving the day. Glad to see this video made it to the channel.
The title does not lie. This was dope
I'm excited to see more games with militia!
Excellent game! Heads up on your Heavy Weapon Squads, though - they have Heavy, so get to re-roll armour saves against blast weapons!
It was cathartic, as a blast-heavy militia player myself, to see them actually out down those pesky Autocannon squads even so!
Yeah, keep forgetting to remember there heavy
Ok, that was epic, so glad the footage was usable. Felt like a proper guard army doing what proper guard do facing down the terror of astartes. Even though it was HH, that was very very enojoyable.
Awesome battle report and that Militia army is just insane!
That was everything I wished my games looked like. Gorgeous example of the hobby.
Thx. God I would love to spend some times with wolesome guys like you! Cheers!
Sultans such a good egg. Main reason I've not missed one of his video just going on a year now since I subscribed to his channel.
I appreciate you
Brilliant game! The Guard needs some more oomph, but gave a the ravenguard a hell of a time!
Certainly one of the best battle report I ever seen, so much fun, so much artillery, so much troops ^^
A costly victory for the raven guard, for sure, but victory none the less.
Thanks for the video :)
Cheers dude
What a brilliant game. Really enjoyed watching, thank you.
Thank you too
Was alot of fun cheers
I need to reread Gaunt’s Ghosts again. That part of Only in Death legitimately gave me chills when I first read it.
Soooo good
Supportbubblesultan! He was there when all was shit! Oh best thumbnail ever! Top tier stuff dudelings!
That was incredible!
Now thats a hoard! That has to be the beautiful thing I've ever seen on a tabletop
Good effort Sultan.
Batrep was still a lot of fun.
This Imperial Militia army is absolutely beautiful. They look like the jumped out of a grim dark graphic novel to become alive. Amazing paintjob! Hope to see them again. Tons of kudo to @Marchofwar for this army and to Sultan for rescueing this juwel of a battle report.
Cheers mate
This was an absolute wonder to watch! If James wants to bring the militia back out once he has the tanks and things, the Death Guard would be such a great matchup too I suspect
They are defo coming back
Gotta love the massed flashlights doing their job and blinding the Raven Guard that forgot to turn off their night vision.
Thank you, winters and March of war, for this amazing and funny game
Cheers mate
Awesome Battle Report.
It rained, and it rained, and it rained steel all day long.
So. Many. Models. Glorious!
Winters, don’t forget Hammer of Wrath for your jump pack guys on the charge!
That James chap really is the most awesome of War Marching
Awww cheers matey.
6:33 100p you get 50p and they are Expendable! Luv IT!
Timestamps with Rounds would be great!
21:00 ROUND 1
34:00 78 Shots hitting on 5s^^
Loved this!
Incredible militia army 10/10
i like this new close up view for the minis!
Winters said its a banger. That means its a banger.
Truth!
Incredible…really brought to life the Warhammer artwork I love so much 👍
Cheers
Wow, hats off to sultan for sorting out the visuals and hats off to march of war for running a malitia army. I did once and won't be doing it again in a hurry 😂
If you use the panoptica fan patch for militia they actually become semi viable and are waaaay more fun to play
This was glorious!
This was an amazing game to watch.
In Dedicato Imperatum Ultra Articulo Mortis 🔥💀🔥
That was awesome! The militia have to return
Booked in, I'm painting tanks ready
Woo hoo! Love your work!
I'm 7 minutes in and this is insane. The guard are beautiful as well as numerous.
This has convinced me to try the Horus Heresy rules.
Welcome to the game. Its fast becoming one of my all time favorite tabletop games rulesets
This was a banger!
What a beautiful imperial army.
Nice match
Greetings form germany! :)
Hello Germany
I have nothing but respect for anyone who plays either militia or Solar Auxilia this edition. The nerf hammer hit them hard.
Yeah militia are rough to play. The army isnt just bad, its shockingly bad. Idk who thought it was a good idea to make the battlecannon a small blast with ap4 on a 120 point tank. Not to mention 3rd line turning all glances into pens on it.
@sturm9087 I agree! I've played IG for decades and was hoping to use them in 30k. Sadly it's just is horribly unbalanced and weak. I had dreams of Solar Auxilia getting Vulture and Vendetta as a way to make them unique and more mobile, that won't likely happen. Instead our main transport gets hit with a weaker gun and most of the weird/fun choices removed. Heck they removed the weapon from the shuttle!
@@newtpondskipper definitely recommend you check out the panoptica fan patch for militia and solar auxilia. It makes the army so much more viable and fun to play, I know 3 militia players and they all use it for their armies. I wouldnt play my militia without it. Check out liber panoptica for the patch rules for the official militia stuff and liber imperatus for the rules for the rest of the imperial guard vehicles and equipment.
It gives solar auxilia and militia access to valkyries and I think the other aircraft as well. They have different names but the stats and weapon loadouts are the same when you match them up.
Could just picture guardsmen being melted by the jet bike doing a skid turn in the arch, make an excellent art print! Holding the flag in the background on the bunker, someone with skills pls...
A "Veteran Crew" t shirt with some art from these guys on it would be badass. Great game
Winters: *Picking a unit to target* "I'm aiming here which unit is that"
James: "Fuck if I know"
As someone who owns 20 dark furies ..I'm looking forward to how they do in this battle
Hey mate crazy looking game loved it!
In 30k it’s infiltrate - sieze - scout moves.
Stay safe
My jaw was on the floor from the deployment. What an incredible game.
Wow that militia, what an army
Soooo many modles
When I first made my guard army I had basilisks and infantry, I added mortars and autocannons and 1 lascannon because it fit my lore but there's so many cool models
Two things re: this battle.
1) Up until now, I have always believed that whoever rolls the most dice per turn, wins. Now, . . .
2) I have a little portable table I use for rolling dice on, to prevent knocking over terrain and rerolling dice sitting sideways. I can now add No Space Due To Models to my list.
More of this please 🙏
Christ im only at the army showcase and i already know this gon be a B A N G E R
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I love a good game to listen to and watch as I am painting up my minis
Man winters, make a save haha. Awesome battle
11:32 OMG! THANKS FOR THIS ONE!
Great batrep. I love my Militia, pain in the arse for events but otherwive I love them ❤ wish there was more batreps with militia out there. Only thing is I think the Las cannon rapiers are not able to make shooting reactions.
Can you elaborate why rapiers wouldnt be able to make reactions?
@@sturm9087 Because they have the artillery sub-type. Artillery can not make reactions.
god, imagine if we had orks or tyranids with the kind of rules militia has. Great battle report!
Proper green tide
Fun little note about this video - if you watch closely enough you can see everything stretching when the camera moves. Nice work on cleaning it up Sultan - to get it this far is pretty amazing. Can't imagine how bad it was before.
I don’t even play/ understand HH but winged makes it look so close and scienmatic!!!
Hi where does James get his soldier's from ?
I was unprepared for the volume of meat for the grinder
ITS A BANGER!!!
Gotta get a pair of traitor armies vs this army with the goal being whichever traitor legion gets more points from killing the guardsmen wins. Would be hella cool.
That would be fun mission, I'd like to bring more but the deployment zone says no
@@jamesmarch7824 Hahaha
Where are these buildings from
Amazing militia army, these are all the valour korps, right? Did you scrape off all the -V- shapes on the helmets etc? that was always the thing keeping me from printing an army of them. No second providence is a waste though, why did you decide to do that? It's not like they are op.
If we do get the 3.0/2.5 edition update next year, I do hope they get the armies closer in balance. I’m never looking for 1 to 1 balance, but they can get a lot closer than they currently are. Making the legions closer and making SA, Militia, and Mechanicum able to actually go up against astartes and have a chance without only able to play a very specific list and that’s your only option. Give guard and solar and knight players a chance. I know Mechanicum can win, but it seems you have to run more specific units all the time. It just limits the list options. Great game though. I know Lore Reasons, but it’s also a game and we should want as many different players and armies and combos as possible. Here’s hoping.
Just.a friendly reminder that artillery cannot react in any phase. Loved the game!
Cheers matey, I've got that in my brain now, I filmed with say hi paul shortly after this so my artillery were overwatch in that aswell lol
Ouhou! Imperial milicia !
Artillery unit type cant ever react, something to remember for next time but really cool game regardless.
Is it that they can't react or that they can't fire indirectly, I thought they could if they have Los? Maybe
@@jamesmarch7824 Units containing one or more models with the artillery subtype can't run, declare or make charges, or make Reactions. It's one of the bullet points of the Artillery subtype.
That image stabilization was tripping me out during the army overview. Like the models were breathing
Anyone else have their jaw drop at 17:09?
WINTERS IS GOAT!
Yea Battle reporting is Winters domain, he is lord here.
I'm not sure if you've changed the settings on your camera winters, but you've got a weird warping effect on this video and the one with the eldar where the farground seems to get warped. It's causing me to feel motion sick when watching, haha. I always love your videos so this is a new undesirable challenge!
Note this is only when moving, from what I can tell
Those two videos were rescued from destruction using tech wizardry, hence the visual anomalies. No further videos have been affected.
@@wintersSEO amazing thanks for letting me know!