Finally! A creator that found out how they got caught and made an informative video about this case. When this happened I was blown away and kept searching for updates to no avail. Then I heard they were arrested but couldn't find out what evidence they had. Thanks so much for this one!
And then the flip side is that they would have if not for those wives. I mean that's some really good methodical careful planning. They thought of so much that your typical criminal doesn't.
Yeah like Chris Watts who figured people would just stop looking for his family and he'd be able to move on with his mistress. Sure, this was planned better but they were the obvious suspects.
Look at them. The sort of trash who commit these crimes have little grey matter floating in their heads. It's all filled up with greed, hate and self interest. And it makes them fugly as Hell.
Imagine how the little girl will feel when she gets older. Learning her family massacred people for custody of her 😢 I hope she never feels guilty. This is just sad all around
But her mom Hannah loved her that much. She was a true mama bear not wanting her with this evil family & would rather be dead.💜🙏💜 She needs therapy now bc she would act out being with Wagners. Still can hear her crying for MOMMY!
@@bestboy138 The little girl is innocent in the whole thing. She didn't ask to be born into the family. But the mom was trying to protect her daughter and not let her be around these people. It's nobodys fault but the PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY MURDERED the others. Not the baby. 😒😒🙄🙄
@@bestboy138 Just like it's your fault your Mom and Dad (who ironically are also your Aunt and Uncle), gave birth to an Alien looking baby with one eye, three legs and a hump. Then your Dad/Uncle went out to get some milk and you haven't seen him since.
And the little baby that was either in the bed when her mom/parents were murdered or placed there by her/them afterwards...imagine when that baby learns that part...
Love how much information you give. I've seen a few videos about the murders, but yours had the most detail. And you never make the murderer your main focus. Kudos to you for all your hard work and dedication to the stories.
I can't imagine sitting around the dining room table planning to massacre an entire family. They didn't want custody of Sophia.; they wanted ownership of her.
Can you imagine the burden they put on that poor child’s shoulders, someday knowing that your father killed everyone to get ownership of you. Talk about a double whammy because she might live with guilt that is not hers, because she was the object of the deed. I was just thinking about that, not at all saying it was her fault, but like survivors guilt you wonder why you were allowed to live, her father selfishly put that burden on her shoulders. I pray she never ever thinks that about herself and knows as she grows up it was not her fault. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
These cases never make any sense to me because 98% of the time the child ends up being raised by grandparents or foster care. If you really care about your child, murdering people for custody is never the answer. My prayers go to that little girl, I hope she lives a wonderful life and makes her momma proud.
I thought the very same during OJ Simpsons trial; why didn't the Nicole's Akita attack or bark at the killer??? Cuz it knew him, that's why. And this was never and has never been brought up by anybody then or since. ??????
This happened like 30 minutes away from me and remember hearing about it everywhere for a few weeks and then never heard about it again. Thanks for the video.
This is seriously just as researched, detailed, and enthralling as anything I’ve ever just casually watched on Investigative Discovery. I hope you’re very proud of these videos because you should be. Thanks for another home run.
@@ktcooki276 can I? Yes. Do i want to? Nahhhh lol i get it on discovery plus….i this the one who carries it to stream. Screw cable or satellite bills! Plus I did really mean what I said here…you can watch ID 24/7 and it will suck for 23 straight hours until one good show comes on or you can just watch this. I choose the option that isn’t like paying a whole damn extra mortgage or car lease every month 😬🤣
Murdering the parents and family of small children while those children are with said victims… this is beyond monstrous. I hope that these children never blame themselves in any way as they grow up, and I hope that they’re able to cope and prosper. What a sad, horrific tragedy this was.
It was never about the child, its ALWAYS about control over the mother and thats a fact. They're disgusting human beings and hope they suffer tremendously in jail
Yes absolutely however Sophia needs to be made aware of that fact as she grows up. She is going to need counseling to deal with the events surrounding the death of her mother and family, at the hand of her father's family.
I’m honestly shocked with how “well” the massacre was put together. They don’t come across as the brightest bunch but the lengths they went to to conceal themselves were insane. I guess it just shows how horrific and selfish they were
don't underestimate people from these areas, they may not be book smart, but they are certainly street wise and cunning. I know, as I'm from a similar area.
@@colesmith7509 well, i meant more like street wise. there are some old folks with practical wisdom though. really, the point is that you can't underestimate hicks just because they aint got no book learnins obviously at the end of the day i realize they weren't wise in the normal sense of the word. Wise? no. Street wise? very.
It blows my mind how the whole family planned this out for months and everyone was ok with it. Like they were planning a vacation or something. Its scary to think so much evil was in one family
@@billtribble7197 both bill Wagner and Kenneth rhoden were involved in a big pot growing operation. Bet the sheriff was on the take receiving some of profits so he would turn a blind eye to that illegal pot growing operation. I have heard about the cornbread mafia being active in northeast Tennessee in the tri cities area.
It's a matter of culture. I'm not kidding. Clan Blood Feuds are rare but when its on there is usually nobody spared. The most-famous one in American History was the Hatfields &,McCoys in the 1800s - they basically turned the peaceful mountainside into an early form of guerilla warfare. The Clan system (the patriarch presents a big decision, everyone says their piece, then everyone - traditionally the males - vote) is an extremely unique culture. It's basically what the Irish and Scottish were on prior to the Feudal Family system (Patriarch makes all the decisions and the children and mother are expected to obey until they build their own family). When I mean "prior to" I mean that the English directly recognized the Clan systems as being the reason they could not fully control the regions. They literally went hill by hill and hall by hall to evict, deport, or kill anyone there. There were no more rebellions from the Scottish or the Irish (until the formation of the IRA and the Sinn Fein nationalist movement).
I live in this town. I remember the day it happened, my school went into partial lockdown because they didn’t know what else was going to happen. Everyone was freaking out. It hits a lot more because of how small our town is, less than 5k people.
Many years ago I lived where a serial killer was active for a few years. It's one thing to read about this kind of situation. It's a whole other thing to have it happen around you. It leaves you with a terrible feeling that the world is not safe. It takes time to get that peace back again.
@@exiled-2006 the sheriff office was even telling people in the area to arm themselves. I was visiting family in Portsmouth when this happened. So sad😢
Just another example of why having babies outside of wedlock is a horrible thing to do. Not only do you end up with single m0thers raising tons of dysfunctional children it causes tons of issues between parents. It is insanely selfish and bad all around for the child.
This crime is absolutely beyond horrific, but their extreme planning and attention to detail was almost the perfect murder. Especially leaving little to no evidence at the crime scene. I think they would have gotten away with it if the 2 girlfriends hadn’t fled and most likely talked. Even if they were charged and tried (if the girlfriends hadn’t talked), I don’t think a jury would have been able to find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You run your mouth, you get caught. And thank God, they did just that! 🙏🏽
Was there evidence of the custody battle or phone/text/electronic records that might show motive? They slaughtered anyone in her family that may directly or indirectly be granted or petition for custody of the baby. Thats beyond a reasonable doubt for me at least (Still in the intro ads of the video as I type, so if they address it in this vid, my bad)
I'd like to thank the narrator of the "Beyond Evil" series, Jason Forbis, for the excellent job he has done. In my opinion, Jason is one of the three top narrators in the true crime series field. The other two very talented narrators are Peter Thomas and Bill Kurtis. These three men are simply excellent narrators! Many thanks to all three of these men. And a special thanks to Jason Forbis for always expressing his sympathy to the families of the victims in each episode.
This case always reminds me of the Anderson family massacre on Christmas Eve 2007, in Carnation, WA. A retired couple, their son and daughter-in-law, and their two small children, were gunned down over the Christmas holiday by the adult daughter (& her boyfriend) because she claimed her brother owed her money, and her parents treated her "unfairly." I will simply NEVER be able to fathom how someone (or multiple someones) can decimate people's lives, much less multiple generations of a family, without even a second thought.
The pure evil of that family is unmatched. They, as a family, sat down and hatched a plan to murder another family. Not one of them sane enough to see how crazy that was. SMH!!
I’m from Pike County… I knew them… chris jr was my brothers friends in school… this haunts me… they lived down the street from brothers wife’s house. Thank you for covering this story.. this hits close to home…
I have asked many channels to cover this story, but to date they haven't. I came across your story on this, so thank you for covering it. This massacre happened very close to home and it stills haunts many of us to this day. This is the worst case in Ohio history. Thanks again for putting it out there. The Rhoden Family needs to be remembered.
They couldn't cover the story when the active investigation was going on. Right now George Wagner IV is on trial on youtube Law and crime and wcpo 9 you can see all the evidence there this week we should see how BCI actually did their investigation and how they found the weapons and linked it all
This was such a horrific crime. So many died and for what? At least the little ones were spared. May they not remember anything about this crime. Thanks for another video this fine Thursday!! See you guys next week and have a great weekend 🥰
Imagine knowing that you were at a crime scene, while all around you were murdered. Sofia's little sister, was 4 days old and was the baby in bed with Hannah, when she was shot, Jake repositioned Hannah's dead body, so the baby could continue to feed. And how awful for Frankie and Hannah's child, in bed with them, when they were executed!! Terrible for all children . I don't know if Frankie's other child was actually in the room. It said he was sleeping on the floor, so I am guessing he was. Still asleep at the time.
@@kenn1936 he was asleep on the living room couch 😔😔 I think he had the most trauma of all the kids because he was aware that something was wrong. Poor guy, I hope he grows up with no memory of it
I'm pretty sure Russell Archey is the ravon look it up he has a youtube video on here somewhere I believe this is someone different I could be wrong though
I love your videos, they are very well put-together, and the narrator’s voice is perfect too. Beyond Evil and Explore With Us/EWU Crime Storytime are my two favourite true crime channels BY FAR!
I married into a very rich very narcissistic family like this. The wealthy mother-in-law was the master manipulator and control freak. What a nightmare for any woman having a child in a family like this and watching what they do to the children.
Don’t forget about the other half of victims . The men. My nightmare is also similar , except society has more trouble seeing he women like this , and they may do more damage to the children
Yes Exactly Shows The Depths Of Evil These Narcissistic People will go to Just to have their way And these People Didn't have the Wealth Many Narcissistic People Do Pure Evil 😈
That was my thought. They murdered all of those people and then just went on like nothing happened. They are truly psychopaths. I hope they have nightmares of crying babies every night.
Hell even the mothers of the parents were arrested for helping with the forgery. This was truly a horrifying family event. The narcissism must run thick through that family.
The only word to describe this is diabolical. It's difficult to imagine that many cold-blooded killers being a part of one family. They evidently loved that little girl in their own sick, twisted way if they were willing to kill eight people to get custody of her so I wonder how they feel realizing she probably she will grow up to hate them for what they did to the other side of her family. Unbelievable! And for what? They will spend decades, if not their entire lives, behind bars and will very likely never even see her again. It amazes me not only how evil people can be but how bone stupid they can be.
That is something that had always puzzled me about these types of cases as well, I mean did they honestly think that after murdering 8 people that they would actually get custody of the child? Are they really that cut off from reality, or just stupid? You’re gonna either get the chair or spend the rest of your life behind bars, you will never see your child again you absolute moron
Also, the older adults ruined the life of their younger son, Jake. Not that he bore no responsibility, but his older family members bear even more responsibility, and they had already lived most of their adult lives in freedom. His entire adulthood will be spent incarcerated. They accomplished nothing but devastation.
I live about 20 minutes away from Pike County. Still hard to believe that all of this happened the way that it did. Very very good coverage on your part.
This was so tragic, I watched their trial, all these people killed over the custody of a child. What kind of people orchestrate such murders and want to be called a family !
Undercover & etc should be opted out but not killers. Frustrating to not hear Jake but learn how he defends his mom who taught him control & abuse not LOVE. Sons dont know how love feels just control. Angela never gave her boys a chance of happiness but I hear Jake was so cold on the stand. Sofia wouldve been better with a loving family & I wonder if they killed bc of witnesses or they could get custody.
How ABSOLUTLEY evil, horrific and cowardly. They should ALL have received the death penalty. It's disgusting how criminals try worm their way out by trying to cut deals. It's not through remorse for their victims, it's for their own selfish, cowardly reasons. My heart breaks for the victims, their families, and the poor babies that have to face life without their beautiful mothers. Thank-you again for being so respectful and caring in the way the show is narrated and showing sympathy and love for the victims and families of these horrific, unspeakable crimes. May they all R.I.P. And hopefully their loved ones can find peace, someday. 💞
This ppl disgust me so much. When the story first came out I was like no cartel would do this, this had to be personal. My heart goes out to the kids, I lost my mom 2 yrs ago because of cancer and I’m still grieving, imagine this babies so little without mommy. Just breaks my heart😢 I pray they grow to have healthy lives and recover from this with therapy and much love from the family.
@@KDiamond666 Umm a drug cartel would definitely do this. They will either kill everyone including the children and pets OR they will spare the other children. That's what the other family was counting on and it worked for a while.
First time viewer. This was done very well! One complaint, yall told us who was arrested and the murderers quickly on the video without a buildup! Some of us have never heard of the case and it coulda waited a bit.
Yeh i know & the same goes for dudes that kill some guy because he’s jealous about his girlfriend or ex or whatever?. It’s like well now you killed a guy & your gonna be in prison for life, well now she’s gonna move on & find a new guy whilst you die in prison 😳 so it was basically pointless doing what you did..
Ive followed this case since the day it broke. Thank you so much for covering it so well. Beyond senseless and evil. Left 3 babies alive w murdered parents. Completely soulless. Not to mention Dana's family were accused and interrogated beyond😢. This family is so evil and heartless.
That's one very evil family. I feel so bad for those kids and remaining family members. To think little Sophia has to grow up without her mama and other members of her extended family because her father helped murder them all. I pray that the children will continue to be protected and raised in q loving environment.
I live in the next town over. It was such a horrific crime it shook everyone in the surrounding towns. The 2 boys were arrested in Chillicothe Ohio, which is where I live.
I lived in pike county/waverly and knew the Rhodens… Chris jr was my brothers friend and my brothers now wife was next door neighbors and my sister in laws dad was friends with Chris Sr
Thank you for pronouncing Appalachia correctly. For someone who was born and raised around the area this means a lot to me. Most folks pronounce it as “Appalashia”.
Thanks for covering this. I'm from Ohio originally and thought when this happened that it must have been a drug gang killing. Mindblowing that it turned out to be over custody.
Every one that knew any the rhodens expected it to be over drugs aswell because they had been stepping on toes they shouldn’t have because they thought they were invincible
I have literally been looking to see if anyone would report on this- it happened a little time ago and couldn’t understand why no one was speaking on it. Thank you for reporting on it.
I live in Ohio & I knew at the time with the number of defendants it would take the prosecutors longer than usual & then Covid slowed down the trials. The trials are on TH-cam. The man who found his family members, oh my, so hard to listen to his testimony.
@@saradavis6505 I am from Ohio too! I hope one day they make a docu on Netflix or something similar. With all the people involved & a script Hollywood couldn't even dream up, hell, it could easily be 10 episodes or more!! They really went over the top with their scheming & dreaming. Still blows my mind that the Wagner's thought they could get away with it, but that's what you get with a family full of Sociopaths.
@@pisces_chick2511 Do you really think Hollyweird could make an accurate movie about this? They would be sure to make it entertaining so as to rake in the 💰💰💰💰
I live and grew up in a nearby county. Let me tell you this has been a crazy case and situation. I am glad that justice has been served in this case, however you wouldn't believe how many times something like this happens in these areas.
My family owns a weekend property in the backwoods near where this happened. After this happened, we all felt super uneasy about ever staying down there. I always imagined the area to be so peaceful and a very nice place to be able to get away from the stress and noise of the city. We never imagined something like this could happen in a place like this. I can't imagine how the people felt that lived in that area their whole life. A super tragic story.
I live very very close to here. It was so ghastly seeing them pull all the mobile homes out to bring them to storage for evidence. Our town was shut down, schools where on lock down because 8 people where dead and they didn't know if there was an active shooter. Our town was rocked with media for weeks. Nothing happens here, but when this did our lives in this small town where never the same. Dana's sister used to come into my work. She hasn't been right since she came upon this scene.
I lived here and I remember the days after this incident, I was forced to stay inside for days. Shit was crazy because of how few people actually live here. Everyone was on edge. My heart still breaks for the victims of this horrible tragedy, along with the people who once called the victims their friends. So glad justice was finally served.
This family had a wicked streak in their entire blood line. The entire blood line, not one of them refused, or stepped away from that kind of hate, plans, and vindictiveness.
@@tmak4699 I have great grand children, have children from four women, and two legit wives. I would never try to take a child from their mother, I still had good relations, I just let them be with their mom, when they got old enough they came to me,..no need to murder over them.
Thanks for this, I've been trying to find a decent telling of this story, but I only learned about it this week and I just keep finding current court footage with no background information.
@buzzardbeatnicks there's a yt channel that I have heard recommended a lot The Pink Moon Murders The Pike County Massacre, I believe it's 3 episodes. I haven't watched it yet but have it added to my list of things to do. I live close to Piketon and have followed this case from the beginning. This is a good video on it. There is one thing that caught my attention @BeyongEvil that I hadn't heard that Billy and Angela had ever divorced as reported in this video. It was Chris Sr and Dana that had divorced but remained on good terms. So I guess that shows ya that you can watch all sorts of documentarys on a subject and still pick up something new along the way. Thanks!
I've seen several videos about this particular case. However most were made awhile back- after the family was arrested but before Jake spilled his guts- so they may not have the same level of detail when it comes to the crime itself simply because that info wasn't available then.
Listen I worked on this case when it was happening and it was just pure Insanity and I have never seen so many grown men so destroyed by this as those officers were while dealing with all of this
@@gogators5762 Well I am an Ohio Bureau Of Investigations photographer and crime scene cleanup officer so what I do is go in after the forensics agents are finished and have cleared the scene and have gotten all of their evidence they feel that they're going to need and I go in and take more pictures just in case anything has been missed and I take very up close and intricate pictures of blood pools and spatters and then just before they either open the crime scene back up to the family or they decide to keep it a close crime scene until Court once they get ready to open the crime scene to the family we go in and clean as much as we can not just blood the other bodily fluids tissues and put them on slides for later on down the road for when the prosecutor and or defense attorney need better photographic evidence for there original motions of discovery for court
@@kd3283 well I'm glad you think that you know a. Who I am b. What you think you know about me and my life c. When it's you that don't know shit an are full of shit yourself
Exactly!!! Don't see where it's right. Everyone else was ok to be seen live but these 2 don't wanna show thier faces for everyone to see what low life's they are but everyone knows what they are.
Are you aware of what a plea deal is and how it can successfully effect the outcome of the case? It's almost a guarantee that nobody walks over "technicalities".
My home town. I knew most of the family, my family was friends with some of their family. My brother was the same age as Chris Jr. , they went to the same school. I had just gave Hanna’s mom Dana clothes for her newborn a month or so before this happened. It’s terrifying. Talk about shaking up a whole town. 💔❤️
Jake is on the stand this week against his brother George, but because Ohio has a rule that is being wrongly interpreted, Jake has opted not to appear on camera or audio. According to people in the courthouse, he is smiling and chuckling at very inappropriate times. I used to live close to Piketon. I'm glad that I never met this rubbish family.
I just happened upon this channel & I’m glad I did. This was a very interesting, insightful & detail-oriented take on this horrific crime. I can definitely understand why Hannah did all she could to keep her child away from that paternal side. This was sheer evil & absolutely disgusting! May they all Rest In Peace.🥀💔🕊
this case is pretty local to me, about 30 mins from where i live now. i remember when this first happened and how much everyone talked about it. everything about this case is so bizarre, from the way they were shot to it being across multiple properties AND members of the same family. just strange. i’ve been keeping up with the trial here and there between the Waukesha and Parkland trials. i’m happy they were able to figure this out. this was genuinely shocking.
You guys are absolutely killing the true crime genre/format. I put you all in the same category and league as EWU Crew/That Chapter, MrBallen and Coffeehouse Crime. You all are the big 5
What a crock that the sheriff's office takes all the Glory for finding the killer's. But 2 young lady's solved the case for them. RIP to all the victims and their family and friends 🙏
Used to go visit my father-in-law when he lived in a town nearby where this happened in the mid to late 90's. Have other in--laws who were posting on FB when this happened and was on the news. Scary that one family did this to another family over a custody battle. Listening to the wiretaps of the trial, today, and wow, the way this family talked to each other like its normal is something else.
For those that don’t know, a gun with a suppressor is still extremely loud. Even being .22LR with a suppressor it still would’ve been very loud. It’s surprising no one woke up.
To the entire crew Thank u the work u put in really shows how hard all of u work 2 bring these cases 2 our knowledge I Really enjoy ur narrating your voice is so on point with every video ☆ Thank u all ☆
Finally! A creator that found out how they got caught and made an informative video about this case. When this happened I was blown away and kept searching for updates to no avail. Then I heard they were arrested but couldn't find out what evidence they had. Thanks so much for this one!
Yes
Follow the trial too.its all there.
What is the evidence that leads to arrest them ?
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Law and Crime and WCPO 9 are covering the George Wagner IV trial right now
It’s just incredible that they thought they would get away with something of this magnitude.
People get so dumb they are not capable of knowing just how brain dead they are.
And then the flip side is that they would have if not for those wives. I mean that's some really good methodical careful planning. They thought of so much that your typical criminal doesn't.
Yeah like Chris Watts who figured people would just stop looking for his family and he'd be able to move on with his mistress. Sure, this was planned better but they were the obvious suspects.
Look at them. The sort of trash who commit these crimes have little grey matter floating in their heads. It's all filled up with greed, hate and self interest. And it makes them fugly as Hell.
They almost did
5:55 this man has lost so much and he is still showing strength by going to court to help get justice for his fallen family! Much respect!
But why was he wearing gloves when he testified?
@@VivaSepulchre He had a catalytic converter to steal at 3pm, and court was at 2pm.
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It was the subpoena that gave him the inner strength to testify.
Imagine how the little girl will feel when she gets older. Learning her family massacred people for custody of her 😢 I hope she never feels guilty. This is just sad all around
But her mom Hannah loved her that much. She was a true mama bear not wanting her with this evil family & would rather be dead.💜🙏💜 She needs therapy now bc she would act out being with Wagners. Still can hear her crying for MOMMY!
@@bestboy138 The little girl is innocent in the whole thing. She didn't ask to be born into the family. But the mom was trying to protect her daughter and not let her be around these people. It's nobodys fault but the PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY MURDERED the others. Not the baby. 😒😒🙄🙄
@@bestboy138 sad troll, man. Sad troll.
@@bestboy138 Just like it's your fault your Mom and Dad (who ironically are also your Aunt and Uncle), gave birth to an Alien looking baby with one eye, three legs and a hump. Then your Dad/Uncle went out to get some milk and you haven't seen him since.
And the little baby that was either in the bed when her mom/parents were murdered or placed there by her/them afterwards...imagine when that baby learns that part...
THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THESE IS INSANE. Thank you.
True!!! Grateful
What's that on your nose?
No.
@@cosmosadorabilis7677 u didnt like the video?
700k a year sweetie, good money
Imagine pulling the trigger on a mother with a child in her arms? Where was your soul?
He has no soul, it's missing.
It's the mindset. He knew he was going to do that before he did it. Emotion doesn;t come into. There is none.
It has been settled for years and years. Turner v Driver is the landmark case. Smith V Cumming and Glik v Cuniffe are others.
No soul, just pure evil.
demons
So heartbreaking to hear that after Hannah was shot in the head her baby was found still attempting to breastfeed😭
Heartbreaking
After Jake shot her her body moved so he repositioned the baby close to her breast. But the baby was not suckling when they found them.
That’s the saddest part for me 😭😭😭
He said he moved her body after he shot her, so that the baby could breastfeed. Not sure how that works when the mother is dead.
@@TawnyC_ that’s so fucking gross man. super freakin sad
Love how much information you give. I've seen a few videos about the murders, but yours had the most detail. And you never make the murderer your main focus. Kudos to you for all your hard work and dedication to the stories.
That poor newborn baby found still trying to feed off her dead mommy is one of the most heartbreaking things I ever heard 😢 💔 😞
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You should not speculate
grow up. that's nothing in this realm.
@@fuckTH-camBringBackDislikes cringe reply
Atleast it won’t remember
I can't imagine sitting around the dining room table planning to massacre an entire family. They didn't want custody of Sophia.; they wanted ownership of her.
I want to know did the child have ownership of the land and property or something
Can you imagine the burden they put on that poor child’s shoulders, someday knowing that your father killed everyone to get ownership of you. Talk about a double whammy because she might live with guilt that is not hers, because she was the object of the deed. I was just thinking about that, not at all saying it was her fault, but like survivors guilt you wonder why you were allowed to live, her father selfishly put that burden on her shoulders. I pray she never ever thinks that about herself and knows as she grows up it was not her fault. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
Mind your own business
@@Keyboard_warri0or you're replying to a 2 year old comment champ. Now I'm giving you the attention you apparently aren't getting from your mom
This resembles a Hatfield and McCoys hillbilly situation. That was in Appalachia too.
These cases never make any sense to me because 98% of the time the child ends up being raised by grandparents or foster care. If you really care about your child, murdering people for custody is never the answer. My prayers go to that little girl, I hope she lives a wonderful life and makes her momma proud.
They are to low iq to realize that they are not like me and you
I think in these cases its more about power and control than the actual child.. Maybe that makes it even more sad.😔
Why do you think these murderers are thinking straight ? None of it makes sense , so you can’t make it make sense unfortunately
... And It All Starts Again, On and On... Not in my back Yard mentally maybe 3:54
The dogs not barking was a subtle red flag. Means the dogs had been around them.
Yep, that was my first thought.
Thought that too
I thought the very same during OJ Simpsons trial; why didn't the Nicole's Akita attack or bark at the killer??? Cuz it knew him, that's why. And this was never and has never been brought up by anybody then or since. ??????
@@CARDINAL701 mans ain’t do it
@@CARDINAL701 Isn't this about the Pike muders the fuck O.J name came up focus.
I feel bad for that guy who found the body and while he was testifying, he was also crying. Can’t imagine what they’ve been through. R.I.P.
That hurt my heart. Something about a grown man crying kills me.
Me too. They were obviously close.
It was 2 relatives who found them. A guy and his wife.
That clip really got to me also. Seeing the trauma and pain while trying to testify is just heartbreaking.
Donald Stone I think is his name.
This happened like 30 minutes away from me and remember hearing about it everywhere for a few weeks and then never heard about it again. Thanks for the video.
I am lost for words to describe this evil. Truly beyond evil. May their souls rest in peace.
This is seriously just as researched, detailed, and enthralling as anything I’ve ever just casually watched on Investigative Discovery. I hope you’re very proud of these videos because you should be. Thanks for another home run.
You can afford ID?!!😆 GAWD, I wish I could lol!!😊
@@ktcooki276 can I? Yes. Do i want to? Nahhhh lol i get it on discovery plus….i this the one who carries it to stream. Screw cable or satellite bills! Plus I did really mean what I said here…you can watch ID 24/7 and it will suck for 23 straight hours until one good show comes on or you can just watch this. I choose the option that isn’t like paying a whole damn extra mortgage or car lease every month 😬🤣
Murdering the parents and family of small children while those children are with said victims… this is beyond monstrous. I hope that these children never blame themselves in any way as they grow up, and I hope that they’re able to cope and prosper. What a sad, horrific tragedy this was.
It was never about the child, its ALWAYS about control over the mother and thats a fact. They're disgusting human beings and hope they suffer tremendously in jail
I agree with you 💯
Facts.
Agreed
Yes absolutely however Sophia needs to be made aware of that fact as she grows up. She is going to need counseling to deal with the events surrounding the death of her mother and family, at the hand of her father's family.
Statistically more women do this type of crime than men. Just saying, it goes both ways.
I’m honestly shocked with how “well” the massacre was put together. They don’t come across as the brightest bunch but the lengths they went to to conceal themselves were insane. I guess it just shows how horrific and selfish they were
I think the mother who wanted the child came up with the plan and the dumb males all went along with it.
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don't underestimate people from these areas, they may not be book smart, but they are certainly street wise and cunning. I know, as I'm from a similar area.
@@Xenotypic Cunning? Yes. Wise? Absolutely not in their case
@@colesmith7509 well, i meant more like street wise. there are some old folks with practical wisdom though. really, the point is that you can't underestimate hicks just because they aint got no book learnins
obviously at the end of the day i realize they weren't wise in the normal sense of the word. Wise? no. Street wise? very.
It blows my mind how the whole family planned this out for months and everyone was ok with it. Like they were planning a vacation or something. Its scary to think so much evil was in one family
alot of citizens think the local sheriff was deeply involved. he stole money to pay gambling debts
@@billtribble7197 both bill Wagner and Kenneth rhoden were involved in a big pot growing operation. Bet the sheriff was on the take receiving some of profits so he would turn a blind eye to that illegal pot growing operation.
I have heard about the cornbread mafia being active in northeast Tennessee in the tri cities area.
It's a matter of culture.
I'm not kidding.
Clan Blood Feuds are rare but when its on there is usually nobody spared.
The most-famous one in American History was the Hatfields &,McCoys in the 1800s - they basically turned the peaceful mountainside into an early form of guerilla warfare.
The Clan system (the patriarch presents a big decision, everyone says their piece, then everyone - traditionally the males - vote) is an extremely unique culture. It's basically what the Irish and Scottish were on prior to the Feudal Family system (Patriarch makes all the decisions and the children and mother are expected to obey until they build their own family).
When I mean "prior to" I mean that the English directly recognized the Clan systems as being the reason they could not fully control the regions.
They literally went hill by hill and hall by hall to evict, deport, or kill anyone there. There were no more rebellions from the Scottish or the Irish (until the formation of the IRA and the Sinn Fein nationalist movement).
I live in this town. I remember the day it happened, my school went into partial lockdown because they didn’t know what else was going to happen. Everyone was freaking out. It hits a lot more because of how small our town is, less than 5k people.
I am so sorry you have been going through this. The trial has been horrific. I hope your community finds peace.
it is such a beautiful place and look so peaceful. Pity some evil people spoil everything luckily they were caught.
I live in Cincinnati a few counties west and I was armed once I heard it. It rocked The entire area for sure!!
Many years ago I lived where a serial killer was active for a few years. It's one thing to read about this kind of situation. It's a whole other thing to have it happen around you. It leaves you with a terrible feeling that the world is not safe. It takes time to get that peace back again.
@@exiled-2006 the sheriff office was even telling people in the area to arm themselves. I was visiting family in Portsmouth when this happened. So sad😢
Eight people lost their young lives over a custody strife. Babies are supposed to bring people together, not tear them apart.
They forgot about that part 😭
Lots of stuff shouldn’t be how it is but, ya know, people suck
Just another example of why having babies outside of wedlock is a horrible thing to do. Not only do you end up with single m0thers raising tons of dysfunctional children it causes tons of issues between parents. It is insanely selfish and bad all around for the child.
Which is why teenage morons should not have kids. Get married, be over 25, and pass some basic goddamn psychiatric tests! THEN have children.
@@TheRationalist. There was a time that I thought differently about that but with age and time, I have found that in MOST cases...that's correct.
This crime is absolutely beyond horrific, but their extreme planning and attention to detail was almost the perfect murder. Especially leaving little to no evidence at the crime scene. I think they would have gotten away with it if the 2 girlfriends hadn’t fled and most likely talked. Even if they were charged and tried (if the girlfriends hadn’t talked), I don’t think a jury would have been able to find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You run your mouth, you get caught. And thank God, they did just that! 🙏🏽
Was there evidence of the custody battle or phone/text/electronic records that might show motive? They slaughtered anyone in her family that may directly or indirectly be granted or petition for custody of the baby. Thats beyond a reasonable doubt for me at least
(Still in the intro ads of the video as I type, so if they address it in this vid, my bad)
No it wasn't. They're a bunch of retarded hillbilly trash. The dumb hillbillies ultimately got caught.
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using the murder weapons for target practice was not great planning
yeah, pretty fucking stupid, huh? Let The Mexican Cartel take the blame so we can create more divide in the country? Wake up!
I'd like to thank the narrator of the "Beyond Evil" series, Jason Forbis, for the excellent job he has done. In my opinion, Jason is one of the three top narrators in the true crime series field. The other two very talented narrators are Peter Thomas and Bill Kurtis. These three men are simply excellent narrators! Many thanks to all three of these men. And a special thanks to Jason Forbis for always expressing his sympathy to the families of the victims in each episode.
Been watching true crime for a while and shout to those 3 guys thank you for shining light upon them
This case always reminds me of the Anderson family massacre on Christmas Eve 2007, in Carnation, WA. A retired couple, their son and daughter-in-law, and their two small children, were gunned down over the Christmas holiday by the adult daughter (& her boyfriend) because she claimed her brother owed her money, and her parents treated her "unfairly."
I will simply NEVER be able to fathom how someone (or multiple someones) can decimate people's lives, much less multiple generations of a family, without even a second thought.
Oh goodness yes the sister and her bf killed them all then waited on her brother his wife and kids. So senseless so sad
This is why I don't mind not having kids.
This story reminded me of that too. I don't live far from Carnation..
@@crystalhendry5607 yep, I'm in Bothell, so I followed it closely.
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. I'm in Monroe
The pure evil of that family is unmatched. They, as a family, sat down and hatched a plan to murder another family. Not one of them sane enough to see how crazy that was. SMH!!
The Wagners were all perfectly and sanely aware of what they were about to commit.
They are not crazy.
They are ABSOLUTE EVIL INCARNATE 👹
I’m from Pike County… I knew them… chris jr was my brothers friends in school… this haunts me… they lived down the street from brothers wife’s house. Thank you for covering this story.. this hits close to home…
Very comprehensive video. Havent seen this case covered much. Good work
I have asked many channels to cover this story, but to date they haven't. I came across your story on this, so thank you for covering it. This massacre happened very close to home and it stills haunts many of us to this day. This is the worst case in Ohio history. Thanks again for putting it out there. The Rhoden Family needs to be remembered.
They couldn't cover the story when the active investigation was going on. Right now George Wagner IV is on trial on youtube Law and crime and wcpo 9 you can see all the evidence there this week we should see how BCI actually did their investigation and how they found the weapons and linked it all
George Wagner IV was found guilty of all 22 charges on Nov 30, 2022
Thank you for that update. 😘
Wow your a genius
@@jaimehutchings836They can probably even spell “you’re”. That’s how smart they are.
This was such a horrific crime. So many died and for what? At least the little ones were spared. May they not remember anything about this crime. Thanks for another video this fine Thursday!! See you guys next week and have a great weekend 🥰
So Angela could have control over Sofia. She never thought what was best for the kids just for herself. Look how her 2 sons turned out.
Imagine knowing that you were at a crime scene, while all around you were murdered. Sofia's little sister, was 4 days old and was the baby in bed with Hannah, when she was shot,
Jake repositioned Hannah's dead body, so the baby could continue to feed. And how awful for Frankie and Hannah's child, in bed with them, when they were executed!!
Terrible for all children . I don't know if Frankie's other child was actually in the room. It said he was sleeping on the floor, so I am guessing he was. Still asleep at the time.
@@kenn1936 he was asleep on the living room couch 😔😔 I think he had the most trauma of all the kids because he was aware that something was wrong. Poor guy, I hope he grows up with no memory of it
Apples rarely fall far from the tree
Sure blame the drugs and not the "victims" 🖕
This is absolutely one of the most heartbreaking and evil cases I’ve ever heard of!
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Superb narration, video production, research & story telling! Kudos sir, you’ve earned a new sub!
The narrator's voice is so perfect.... keep up the good work. This story is a real tragedy
The narrator name is the Raven
This is the raven as well ? I thought he only did explore with us ?
@@brianalaundrie6192 omg I thought your name said Brian laundrie at first lol
I'm pretty sure Russell Archey is the ravon look it up he has a youtube video on here somewhere I believe this is someone different I could be wrong though
@@THATDAMSPORTSHOW I don’t think it’s him, I took a quick listen and didn’t hear anything similar..
I love your videos, they are very well put-together, and the narrator’s voice is perfect too. Beyond Evil and Explore With Us/EWU Crime Storytime are my two favourite true crime channels BY FAR!
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I was thinking he sounds alot like the ewu guy. I just found this channel... another good one is dire trip.
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Only in Ohio 💀
Well made video👍🏻 Finally cleared up some confusion I had in regards to this case.
I married into a very rich very narcissistic family like this. The wealthy mother-in-law was the master manipulator and control freak. What a nightmare for any woman having a child in a family like this and watching what they do to the children.
Don’t forget about the other half of victims . The men. My nightmare is also similar , except society has more trouble seeing he women like this , and they may do more damage to the children
Yes Exactly
Shows The Depths
Of Evil These Narcissistic
People will go to
Just to have their way
And these People
Didn't have the Wealth
Many Narcissistic People
Do
Pure Evil 😈
@@iWantToBelieve... and a bunch of men were victims too. Show a little respect
@@LilyElkind But not in this scenario.
This family wasn't rich like that. They were just hard working middle class.
to so calmly and fully plan and commit 8 murders all to get custody is just mind boggling.... that poor child, i hope she manages a happy life :(
They could have just sued for joint custody! Ohio likes both parents to be involved
That was my thought. They murdered all of those people and then just went on like nothing happened. They are truly psychopaths. I hope they have nightmares of crying babies every night.
Hell even the mothers of the parents were arrested for helping with the forgery. This was truly a horrifying family event. The narcissism must run thick through that family.
Part of their culture
@@ogfullmelt ok nigga 😂
@@CODCritic101 I'm not but okay fragile white male
The entire world is diagnosing narcissism on every criminal. American pop psychology is getting tedious.
The only word to describe this is diabolical. It's difficult to imagine that many cold-blooded killers being a part of one family. They evidently loved that little girl in their own sick, twisted way if they were willing to kill eight people to get custody of her so I wonder how they feel realizing she probably she will grow up to hate them for what they did to the other side of her family. Unbelievable! And for what? They will spend decades, if not their entire lives, behind bars and will very likely never even see her again. It amazes me not only how evil people can be but how bone stupid they can be.
That is something that had always puzzled me about these types of cases as well, I mean did they honestly think that after murdering 8 people that they would actually get custody of the child? Are they really that cut off from reality, or just stupid? You’re gonna either get the chair or spend the rest of your life behind bars, you will never see your child again you absolute moron
Kinda like the Hatfield's & McCoy's... js'in
Its not love its control.
Also, the older adults ruined the life of their younger son, Jake. Not that he bore no responsibility, but his older family members bear even more responsibility, and they had already lived most of their adult lives in freedom. His entire adulthood will be spent incarcerated. They accomplished nothing but devastation.
@@Reudze Yes, I agree. She wasn't a child, she was a possession. Sad.
I live about 20 minutes away from Pike County. Still hard to believe that all of this happened the way that it did.
Very very good coverage on your part.
I live 15 minutes away
@@NunYaaBizz I would ask where since we’re so close to one another but your username says it all. haha
I lived in waverly 20 mins from pike county my brother was friends with Chris jr.
I swear, effective birth control would eliminate half of all true crime stories.
Exactly
I just subscribed. You did a great job on this case and your voice is outstanding! ❤️
The number of hearses carrying bodies is terribly sad. I live 2 counties away, this awful situation shook us all. Massacre indeed.
There should never be that many hursts at one time😢… I also live a couple counties away.. Warren
Guys it's hearse
@@darknesskingsized8996 thx😊
@@darknesskingsized8996 oops
These are my cousins. Thanks for this video.
This was so tragic, I watched their trial, all these people killed over the custody of a child. What kind of people orchestrate such murders and want to be called a family !
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I think I saw this family in a Rob Zombie movie
Undercover & etc should be opted out but not killers. Frustrating to not hear Jake but learn how he defends his mom who taught him control & abuse not LOVE. Sons dont know how love feels just control. Angela never gave her boys a chance of happiness but I hear Jake was so cold on the stand. Sofia wouldve been better with a loving family & I wonder if they killed bc of witnesses or they could get custody.
@@spicyirwin5835 Usually a man doesn’t want the woman to have the child because he doesn’t want to pay child support
It wasn't about the baby, it never is, it's about the control they wanted over her mother
How ABSOLUTLEY evil, horrific and cowardly. They should ALL have received the death penalty. It's disgusting how criminals try worm their way out by trying to cut deals. It's not through remorse for their victims, it's for their own selfish, cowardly reasons. My heart breaks for the victims, their families, and the poor babies that have to face life without their beautiful mothers. Thank-you again for being so respectful and caring in the way the show is narrated and showing sympathy and love for the victims and families of these horrific, unspeakable crimes. May they all R.I.P. And hopefully their loved ones can find peace, someday. 💞
Great comment
This should've all been prevented if the country charged the son with dating a minor..
Great job on all the information as always, I appreciate all the work that goes into making your videos.
OMG!! This is gruesome 😢 I’m grateful the babies were spared but they have no parents 😔
I know! That poor newborn trying to nurse from its dead mommy. Just awful.
This ppl disgust me so much. When the story first came out I was like no cartel would do this, this had to be personal. My heart goes out to the kids, I lost my mom 2 yrs ago because of cancer and I’m still grieving, imagine this babies so little without mommy. Just breaks my heart😢 I pray they grow to have healthy lives and recover from this with therapy and much love from the family.
@@Andreamom001 That hurt to the core.
@@KDiamond666 Umm a drug cartel would definitely do this. They will either kill everyone including the children and pets OR they will spare the other children. That's what the other family was counting on and it worked for a while.
@@KDiamond666 ive seen the cartel kill and torture whole families it is incomparable to a random spree killing
First time viewer. This was done very well! One complaint, yall told us who was arrested and the murderers quickly on the video without a buildup! Some of us have never heard of the case and it coulda waited a bit.
I like how he actually tells the whole thing from start to the trial and sentencing. Most TH-cam pages do not go that far.
One of the best episodes ever. Thank you man. Please keep it coming...
Sending condolences before starting is a very nice touch I've never seen before on a story like this. Very considerate and respectable.
The insanity of such a heinous act blows my mind.. An entire family!! They really thought they’d get away with it 🤦🏻♀️
I'm always amaze that people will kill someone in order to get a child. Like when you get caught you won't have said child 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Yup, unfortunately it’s the mindset “if I can’t have them, no one can”
Yeh i know & the same goes for dudes that kill some guy because he’s jealous about his girlfriend or ex or whatever?. It’s like well now you killed a guy & your gonna be in prison for life, well now she’s gonna move on & find a new guy whilst you die in prison 😳 so it was basically pointless doing what you did..
It's called, " Stuck on stupid. ".
I guess they either think they won't get caught or they don't care
Irony is the kid wasn’t even the guys, DNA proved otherwise. So 8 lives lost for nothing. Kinda hits home considering, I live a towns length away
Ive followed this case since the day it broke. Thank you so much for covering it so well. Beyond senseless and evil. Left 3 babies alive w murdered parents. Completely soulless. Not to mention Dana's family were accused and interrogated beyond😢. This family is so evil and heartless.
That's one very evil family. I feel so bad for those kids and remaining family members. To think little Sophia has to grow up without her mama and other members of her extended family because her father helped murder them all. I pray that the children will continue to be protected and raised in q loving environment.
I live in the next town over. It was such a horrific crime it shook everyone in the surrounding towns. The 2 boys were arrested in Chillicothe Ohio, which is where I live.
I lived in pike county/waverly and knew the Rhodens… Chris jr was my brothers friend and my brothers now wife was next door neighbors and my sister in laws dad was friends with Chris Sr
Thank you for pronouncing Appalachia correctly. For someone who was born and raised around the area this means a lot to me. Most folks pronounce it as “Appalashia”.
Thanks for covering this. I'm from Ohio originally and thought when this happened that it must have been a drug gang killing. Mindblowing that it turned out to be over custody.
It's way to personal for any business related stuff. You don't shoot them 8x in the head when its not personal.
Every one that knew any the rhodens expected it to be over drugs aswell because they had been stepping on toes they shouldn’t have because they thought they were invincible
I have nightmares of that intro song.... I love this channel!
Do u kno da name of da song?
This channel is great keep up the strong work 🎃
If they actually cared about that baby at all, they would not have done this. Horrific.
I have literally been looking to see if anyone would report on this- it happened a little time ago and couldn’t understand why no one was speaking on it. Thank you for reporting on it.
Finally someone is talking about this case!!
I saw it in many channels long time ago
I live in Ohio & I knew at the time with the number of defendants it would take the prosecutors longer than usual & then Covid slowed down the trials. The trials are on TH-cam. The man who found his family members, oh my, so hard to listen to his testimony.
@@saradavis6505 I am from Ohio too! I hope one day they make a docu on Netflix or something similar. With all the people involved & a script Hollywood couldn't even dream up, hell, it could easily be 10 episodes or more!! They really went over the top with their scheming & dreaming. Still blows my mind that the Wagner's thought they could get away with it, but that's what you get with a family full of Sociopaths.
@@pisces_chick2511 Do you really think Hollyweird could make an accurate movie about this? They would be sure to make it entertaining so as to rake in the 💰💰💰💰
@@dixonbidenzmouth4115 My point is Hollywood would never do it justice. You know the saying, The truth is stranger than fiction?
This video is so well 👍 done, ty for the work put into it.
Great coverage. You are at the very top of the true crime genre.
I live and grew up in a nearby county. Let me tell you this has been a crazy case and situation.
I am glad that justice has been served in this case, however you wouldn't believe how many times something like this happens in these areas.
Hey hello
My family owns a weekend property in the backwoods near where this happened. After this happened, we all felt super uneasy about ever staying down there. I always imagined the area to be so peaceful and a very nice place to be able to get away from the stress and noise of the city. We never imagined something like this could happen in a place like this. I can't imagine how the people felt that lived in that area their whole life. A super tragic story.
Truly an Excellent Channel.
Well Done.
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I live very very close to here. It was so ghastly seeing them pull all the mobile homes out to bring them to storage for evidence. Our town was shut down, schools where on lock down because 8 people where dead and they didn't know if there was an active shooter. Our town was rocked with media for weeks. Nothing happens here, but when this did our lives in this small town where never the same. Dana's sister used to come into my work. She hasn't been right since she came upon this scene.
Also the picture you showed of Bobbi Jo was actually Dana. Not Bobbi Jo.
Why was the guy who testified (in the blue wrangler shirt) wearing work gloves on the witness stand?
Not making fun.....just genuinely curious
@@cyfogens Yeah, I wondered, too. I have seen an electrician whose hands had been severely burned, who wore gloves, but tjose were tight-fitting.
I lived here and I remember the days after this incident, I was forced to stay inside for days. Shit was crazy because of how few people actually live here. Everyone was on edge. My heart still breaks for the victims of this horrible tragedy, along with the people who once called the victims their friends. So glad justice was finally served.
This family had a wicked streak in their entire blood line. The entire blood line, not one of them refused, or stepped away from that kind of hate, plans, and vindictiveness.
Children bring out very strong emotions..hopefully you are never put in that position, or if you are can learn to forgive. it can take 3 years or more
@@tmak4699 I have great grand children, have children from four women, and two legit wives. I would never try to take a child from their mother, I still had good relations, I just let them be with their mom, when they got old enough they came to me,..no need to murder over them.
@@rezkinginternational not all relations remain "good"..people use children as means to hurt others
all bad blood comes from in-breeding...no matter how far back
Thanks for this, I've been trying to find a decent telling of this story, but I only learned about it this week and I just keep finding current court footage with no background information.
@buzzardbeatnicks there's a yt channel that I have heard recommended a lot The Pink Moon Murders The Pike County Massacre, I believe it's 3 episodes. I haven't watched it yet but have it added to my list of things to do.
I live close to Piketon and have followed this case from the beginning. This is a good video on it. There is one thing that caught my attention @BeyongEvil that I hadn't heard that Billy and Angela had ever divorced as reported in this video. It was Chris Sr and Dana that had divorced but remained on good terms. So I guess that shows ya that you can watch all sorts of documentarys on a subject and still pick up something new along the way.
Thanks!
I've seen several videos about this particular case. However most were made awhile back- after the family was arrested but before Jake spilled his guts- so they may not have the same level of detail when it comes to the crime itself simply because that info wasn't available then.
Got a link on where someone can buy the “.22LR center fire autos” you showed? 🙄
Listen I worked on this case when it was happening and it was just pure Insanity and I have never seen so many grown men so destroyed by this as those officers were while dealing with all of this
What do you mean worked on it? Can you please share. Thank you kindly!!
Kayleigh is full of sh!t
@@gogators5762 Well I am an Ohio Bureau Of Investigations photographer and crime scene cleanup officer so what I do is go in after the forensics agents are finished and have cleared the scene and have gotten all of their evidence they feel that they're going to need and I go in and take more pictures just in case anything has been missed and I take very up close and intricate pictures of blood pools and spatters and then just before they either open the crime scene back up to the family or they decide to keep it a close crime scene until Court once they get ready to open the crime scene to the family we go in and clean as much as we can not just blood the other bodily fluids tissues and put them on slides for later on down the road for when the prosecutor and or defense attorney need better photographic evidence for there original motions of discovery for court
@@kd3283 well I'm glad you think that you know a. Who I am b. What you think you know about me and my life c. When it's you that don't know shit an are full of shit yourself
@@kayleighweber1016 There is no record of you working for them
Insane that Serial Killers have a choice to opt out of media coverage and more so allowed to make a plea deal !!
Exactly!!! Don't see where it's right. Everyone else was ok to be seen live but these 2 don't wanna show thier faces for everyone to see what low life's they are but everyone knows what they are.
Are you aware of what a plea deal is and how it can successfully effect the outcome of the case? It's almost a guarantee that nobody walks over "technicalities".
@@cincin4515 They gave up ALL their rights when they took anothers life
My home town. I knew most of the family, my family was friends with some of their family. My brother was the same age as Chris Jr. , they went to the same school. I had just gave Hanna’s mom Dana clothes for her newborn a month or so before this happened. It’s terrifying. Talk about shaking up a whole town. 💔❤️
Jake is on the stand this week against his brother George, but because Ohio has a rule that is being wrongly interpreted, Jake has opted not to appear on camera or audio. According to people in the courthouse, he is smiling and chuckling at very inappropriate times. I used to live close to Piketon. I'm glad that I never met this rubbish family.
The baby still trying to nurse broke my heart 😩
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Me too!! baby was hungry. Poor Baby and Everyone!!!
Tragic
So what lol
This is heartbreaking 💔 😢
Great details and information. Keep it up
Just wow
Im totally speechless.
Many prayers n much love to all the innocent that have to suffer from such horrible crimes💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
I just happened upon this channel & I’m glad I did. This was a very interesting, insightful & detail-oriented take on this horrific crime. I can definitely understand why Hannah did all she could to keep her child away from that paternal side. This was sheer evil & absolutely disgusting! May they all Rest In Peace.🥀💔🕊
Heartless, surprised this didn’t make bigger news 📰
this case is pretty local to me, about 30 mins from where i live now. i remember when this first happened and how much everyone talked about it. everything about this case is so bizarre, from the way they were shot to it being across multiple properties AND members of the same family. just strange. i’ve been keeping up with the trial here and there between the Waukesha and Parkland trials. i’m happy they were able to figure this out. this was genuinely shocking.
Yall some crazed rednecks
Ugh, I love your voice 🥰
what is the song at the intro. its very captivating.thanks
Families that have that unhealthy, unbreakable bond are scary
Sick in the head!
You guys are absolutely killing the true crime genre/format. I put you all in the same category and league as EWU Crew/That Chapter, MrBallen and Coffeehouse Crime. You all are the big 5
Isn’t this one of the same narrators for ewu?
WTF is with people who think that ABSOLUTELY in a sentence makes you sound smarter?? Illiterate knob.
"When you go to testify in court, wear your best shirt." "Alright, I got you."
How horrific… to know that a small group of people could conspire to destroy an entire family… 😢
How people can be so evil in their actions is beyond me, but thank God for the diligence of those in law enforcement who solved this horrific crime.
I like hearing anything from the Pike County Murders, it is only about 30 miles away from where I live. Thank you.
What a crock that the sheriff's office takes all the Glory for finding the killer's. But 2 young lady's solved the case for them.
RIP to all the victims and their family and friends 🙏
We need more🤔....but I do believe this bc that Sheriff was a crook 💯
28 THOUSAND? I didn't think it was that big! I have family there and they were freaking out when this happened.
@@Iwasnevermeanttobehere my family is in Bainbridge, I guess I didn't understand Pike County was that huge
I wouldn’t have thought that many, either, but I guess the whole area of the county is pretty large.
@@Iwasnevermeanttobehere hollidaysburg pa here
A bunch of nuts to move to Alaska then move back😳🥹
@@bonniejosavland3227 idk they're not that bad. Like a lot of right Qing nuts yeah but they were nice at least when I was a kid
Damn you got a sub here. Fantastic work
Used to go visit my father-in-law when he lived in a town nearby where this happened in the mid to late 90's. Have other in--laws who were posting on FB when this happened and was on the news. Scary that one family did this to another family over a custody battle. Listening to the wiretaps of the trial, today, and wow, the way this family talked to each other like its normal is something else.
For those that don’t know, a gun with a suppressor is still extremely loud. Even being .22LR with a suppressor it still would’ve been very loud. It’s surprising no one woke up.
To the entire crew Thank u the work u put in really shows how hard all of u work 2 bring these cases 2 our knowledge I Really enjoy ur narrating your voice is so on point with every video
☆ Thank u all ☆
So sad! May God watch over all the children who lost their families that night.
If God was real why would he let this happen at all.