Francis Doesn't Believe Spider is Going to Split His $25k with Megan Makin Money like He Promised

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  • @HulkLogan69
    @HulkLogan69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    God KFC doesn’t stfu. I never watch this show and now I know I’ll never watch it lmao. Is he always like this?

    • @bucktrucker5173
      @bucktrucker5173 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Everyday, and today was an off day of only doing it 87 times minimum

  • @TheGRTiger
    @TheGRTiger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The way Francis weaves together sincerity, self deprecating pretentiousness, and comedic drama is captivating. Legend.

    • @NoNameJ1622
      @NoNameJ1622 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Francis glaze is embarrassing and concerning in equal measure.

  • @scobelverse
    @scobelverse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    If KFC took a month off from this show it would be the best show on barstool

    • @messyglass4606
      @messyglass4606 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Show will be so good when they are doing surviving barstool

  • @user-nw4bp8sb4v
    @user-nw4bp8sb4v 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    It is is infuriating listening to KFC just interrupt everybody, how does no one get annoyed lol

  • @kcpmp3
    @kcpmp3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    There is zero chance she would have gave Spider a dime. He did what he had to do to win. That’s the game.

    • @kevbriguy
      @kevbriguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yah n she didn’t promise him half up dingus…are you actually that stupid???

    • @MisterRawgers
      @MisterRawgers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even watching the finale & her initial reactions you could tell she was ungrateful

  • @seraphimvulture
    @seraphimvulture 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The host does nothing but interrupt the guests the whole time. Why is he hosting?

  • @jessehutchinson7539
    @jessehutchinson7539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    KFC interrupting Francis answering KFC's question was all time. When he did it again it became epic. Now I just want drive off a bridge

  • @damiendemarco-sutton4157
    @damiendemarco-sutton4157 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    I love KFC but I’ll never understand why he try’s to talk for people that are literally on the show. Just let them say their own point

    • @StartxRunin
      @StartxRunin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t love kfc he’s fucking annoying

    • @sabrossi9995
      @sabrossi9995 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This show is a fucking joke just cancel it already and fire kfc

    • @jwill294
      @jwill294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      KFC would be just unbearable to try and speak with

    • @reellifeoutdoors2905
      @reellifeoutdoors2905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      "I love KFC" is something ive never seen

    • @hawhaw4240
      @hawhaw4240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "except for the essence of his personality, I love KFC!"

  • @JJones07
    @JJones07 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Every time the camera pans to KFC I can’t help but look for Gia staring directly at the camera everyday

    • @TheEasyLifee
      @TheEasyLifee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya she wants to be in the convo so bad, I loved the other day when she tried forcing her way into the Kelly / Taylor swift convo just to try and show she's a psycho just like most of Swifts fans and KFC shut her shit down fast.

  • @__Jah__
    @__Jah__ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Francis's speech was some of the best writing anywhere on Barstool in a long time. Eloquent, Passionate, Unhinged, and Fucking Hilarious.
    and tbh his rant wasn't entirely wrong: it was insane that Rudy was like "it's just a game" after they were literally snuggling in the mattress firm mattress hours before he double-crossed him.
    Rudy knew everyone was voting for Francis and could easily not have voted for him. Rudy chose to be rat fuck; Francis's reaction was pretty justified.
    Edit to get into the game theory weeds of it all: Rudys decision is also completely justified, not saying otherwise, but I think he ends up with much better odds to win in the end if he doesn’t vote out Francis that night and eliminates Megan instead of Grace after the eating contest. Being the “trustworthy” player is only valuable if you’re setting yourself up for votes at the ends, and Rudy forsook end votes for small mid game “trust” which is hidden behind the anonymity of voting and is practically worthless given Spider and Megan’s pre-game alliance (Dana had to ask him straight up because he wasn’t sure if it was spider or Rudy who defended him night 1)

  • @meeraaudio
    @meeraaudio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Francis was the star of the whole show

  • @__Jah__
    @__Jah__ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    It’s still shocking that Francis was fired all those years ago over bad timing of a joke blog.
    Dave never should have allowed him to be caged; he is now untethered and his content generation will know no bounds.
    Long live the Ginger God

  • @bucktrucker5173
    @bucktrucker5173 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    My takeaways….KFC interrupted 18 times and I’m so confused on why he is the host because he is awful, Spider is cheap as F, and Francis is a legend

  • @jessehutchinson7539
    @jessehutchinson7539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I wish KFC was electrocuted every single "I think" utterance

  • @scobelverse
    @scobelverse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Francis at 40:35 “I might just kill KFC on my way out”

  • @bulldogsforeva
    @bulldogsforeva 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Francis’s biggest downfall wasn’t not trusting people, it was him not realizing he was the heavy favorite to win. He would have unanimously won if he made it to the finale

  • @holdenb8501
    @holdenb8501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    KFC being salty about them needing to take time off to watch the NFL during surviving barstool while pardon my take simultaneously keeps the majority of the nyc office employed is delusion like you read about

    • @drugaddictwithknowledge9603
      @drugaddictwithknowledge9603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why can’t they just watch the nfl in the office what do they need the time off for? Or is the time off watching the games? If so KFC just bitching to bitch while his podcast that he overtalks and cuts people off on while his lapdog laughs at everything has massively grown his ego. He hasn’t been apart of real content since cheating on his pregnant wife. Before that the kfc vs Dave stuff was kinda entertaining I’m not gonna lie I enjoyed it. Ever since not so much can’t stand him this was even hard to get though I only did it in pieces because of the cutting people off I just wanted to see what the finalists had to say

  • @joshuahutton2142
    @joshuahutton2142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    KFC sucks. Let people talk.

  • @Shizzle7111
    @Shizzle7111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The idea that Spider "screwed Megan out of the win" is complete non sense.... Its just simple Game Theory...If Spider votes the way they agreed, he loses...So he did the correct game theory optimal play...he votes in a way that he wins...but then splits the money. Spider did literally the most ethical and smart play he could in the situation.

  • @annblythbailey4874
    @annblythbailey4874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Clearly John is the only one who understands what it's like to have su*c*dal thoughts. The fact that Kevin and Pat were so flippant about it was crazy to me. Kevin saying, "let's have a group vote if we should show it".. Really Kevin? John doesn't go against the grain often but I really respect him for speaking up here.

  • @ThePeabody20
    @ThePeabody20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Now Pat loves talking over callers awesome! It’s contagious

  • @JJones07
    @JJones07 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So if Spider votes for Megan it’s a tie and then he might lose… there is a 0% chance Megan splits the money with Spider based off her reaction. Why are we acting like Megan is owed money she didn’t win?

    • @drugaddictwithknowledge9603
      @drugaddictwithknowledge9603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly I think spider just felt like she played a better game(counter point can’t really say that if she lost though) and wouldn’t of won without her plus she’s hot and simped while she has 2 kids. Personally I’m not splitting shit I won that’s the game if you ain’t first your last. So I wouldn’t be splitting it and I think spider got caught up in the moment like Francis said he did with his unhinged and mind frame. It’s like when Dana beers got 100k from Dave for selling all the zillion beers merch in 2 weeks and donated it all. Caught up in the moment and not seeing fucking reality. He shouldn’t of said split at most toss her a rack or 2 and call it a day if you felt she was so influential. She’s not getting 12,500 though like I said I’m taking it all and saving towards a new place to live

    • @88xclaxerxc88
      @88xclaxerxc88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She didn’t play a better game though when his game is what won it for him…

  • @no1raniuk854
    @no1raniuk854 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For a comedian Francis has so many times where he takes things very literal.

  • @bennraxx7908
    @bennraxx7908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KFC is the worst. He’s only there because he’s grandfathered in.

  • @hockeyalexthe8
    @hockeyalexthe8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is the funniest Francis has been

  • @krenbenz6991
    @krenbenz6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Francis doesn't even realize that he was the best at playing the game. That's why they all wanted him out. Francis played flawlessly, but flawless will still lose a game like this.

  • @foodisfuel
    @foodisfuel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why are there spoilers in the thumbnail and title? C'mon man

  • @colemurphy8966
    @colemurphy8966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why is spider splitting the money after screwing Megan a big deal? Voting for Rudy is how he won. So him splitting it with her makes sense

    • @ohyeaaaa1
      @ohyeaaaa1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't screw Megan. She tried to screw him by accepting Rudy's triangle pact vote. Should've been honest and said me and Spider are voting for each other. Rudy you have to decide between us. Then she would have got Spider's vote. Instead she was greedy. She screwed herself. If Rudy had said the triangle pact the other way and that he would vote for Spider there's no way Megan would've voted for Spider also and just gift him the extra vote. Crazy people don't see this.

  • @Rb43091
    @Rb43091 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    KFC is the Bert Kreischer of barstool

    • @holdenb8501
      @holdenb8501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats a bad thing i assume? idk who that is

    • @Rb43091
      @Rb43091 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@holdenb8501 bad thing. Quite bad.

  • @tropx8995
    @tropx8995 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    KFC never stops talking. JFC shut up for awhile.

  • @TonyToniTone81
    @TonyToniTone81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why was Meghan complaining about eating the bugs when she didn’t even eat anything?

  • @TheSmith1490
    @TheSmith1490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You gotta tell Gia to stop looking like a creep all show, just starring in the background

  • @jamesd3412
    @jamesd3412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Spider fucking better keep that money.

  • @JohnSmith-tg4bd
    @JohnSmith-tg4bd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t understand why spider feels so compelled to give Megan half because lying and changing your vote last minute to win the game… is literally the POINT of the game to do stuff like that! Smh

  • @adamkempa5522
    @adamkempa5522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Whose idea was it to put this RIGHT above the finale video in the TH-cam feed? I haven't watched yet but this basically spoils the ending with the title. I won't worry about watching either video now, thanks for saving 2 hours+ of my time

  • @blackbottlez3660
    @blackbottlez3660 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve had multiple comments about Rudy being soft deleted. Who’s gonna call who out here?? Spider-man meme!!!! 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @molliemaemedlock
    @molliemaemedlock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am in love w Francis 😂 why am I just now discovering him

  • @L4COMBE
    @L4COMBE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for that spoiler title.

  • @carsonstauning7987
    @carsonstauning7987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Less than 24 hours after the game show airs we got spoilers in the title

  • @TheColeWerner
    @TheColeWerner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Francis saying he doesn’t care if Spider pays Megan the money or not is so obviously a lie.. you can tell he cares soooo much for some weird reason

  • @JosephDesigner
    @JosephDesigner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would Megan have split the winnings with Spider had she won? Dead ass would she have or no?

  • @LatinKing113
    @LatinKing113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:04 start

  • @SGTFunko
    @SGTFunko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francis is the GOAT

  • @erinnewton5807
    @erinnewton5807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can’t deal with this new set up and where the couch is placed lol, makes it visually look messy. Pivot it against the wall or windows and make the pod area more cozy barstool theme, everyone just looks awkward all the time now

  • @infinintrest
    @infinintrest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean the facts are - Spider won fair and square within the rules of the game. Megan lost. Trust no one. Spider was caught up in the moment. If Francis couldn’t think straight, neither could spider. If she gets anything it’s because spider is generous. Otherwise, who would want to give money to someone who’s talking shit about you lol.

  • @Cali2Kyushu
    @Cali2Kyushu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i feel bad for Francis

  • @taylorcoughlin1714
    @taylorcoughlin1714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the point of people participating in the epic surviving if they are going to immerse themselves? Pull out and have someone else participate.

  • @carnesf3
    @carnesf3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great headline for the people that haven’t been able to watch the episode yet. Another thing KFC ruined at barstool

  • @dfuhst
    @dfuhst 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Try being a Hispanic mailman in South Dakota.” 😂😂😂😂

  • @liamscott2511
    @liamscott2511 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this

  • @tjdalyiv
    @tjdalyiv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DONT PAY MEGAN

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm afraid to work or live Oakland...rob me once

  • @josiericaro3347
    @josiericaro3347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Splitting the money such a bitch move. I hope he keeps it all.

    • @IBuhZerK
      @IBuhZerK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a bitch move because you have no code of morals or ethics 🤣 a bitch move would be him NOT giving her half after he already said we would

  • @ThePeabody20
    @ThePeabody20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also Pat trying to tell Megan take a lower amount every 5mins

  • @mf73tastucker3
    @mf73tastucker3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    KFC texted looking like high school gossip girl 💯❌

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not enough Teal.

  • @andrewrodgers1025
    @andrewrodgers1025 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please have Francis or Rudy when Tommy is in Chicago.

  • @kyleabrell4394
    @kyleabrell4394 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All in all, what a bunch of babies. They had cots and a decently stable structure to stay in for what, 4 nights? It's not as if they were in a monsoon in tents on the ground staving off wildlife. They act like they just returned from war

  • @NoNameJ1622
    @NoNameJ1622 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Megan didn’t deserve the win AT ALL

  • @Youngbull20
    @Youngbull20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Love how Sas took everything on the chin last season and Francis takes everything so personal this season… who’s really more mature

    • @IBuhZerK
      @IBuhZerK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Did you even listen to this or are you just talking to talk?

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can Joke.

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not enough Harvard.....Franics...Get SPF 50

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They let Francis into Harvard?

  • @lukasmorrill2957
    @lukasmorrill2957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KFC sucks not watching

  • @justincox2479
    @justincox2479 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shouldn’t of fired all the good producers barstool production has taken a nose dive since Dave took over

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wHWhich trail.. road less traveled

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not enough teal

  • @ethangallup565
    @ethangallup565 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francis is the best

  • @R.A.A.A.F.
    @R.A.A.A.F. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Francis is clueless. Dude put Rudy in a horrible position. In helping Rudy win the challenge, he outed a very threatening alliance and put targets on their backs. Rudy's only way to regain the trust of the group was to turn on Francis. It's a shame Tommy wasn't there to analyze the gameplay for these morons.

    • @user-ez9oy2oy2k
      @user-ez9oy2oy2k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rudy is the worst. Have you ever laughed at something this person has said? Yikes

    • @R.A.A.A.F.
      @R.A.A.A.F. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@user-ez9oy2oy2k I don’t find Rudy particularly funny either, but I don’t really see how that’s relevant. It’s a game of strategy. Francis made a cliche rookie mistake that every survivor fan has seen a million times and fucked them both. However smart he claims he is, it’s clear that he did not understand the game.

  • @Ineedfwns
    @Ineedfwns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There’s really no reason for Pat to be on this show. Adds nothing.

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    spiders vs gingers tbd

  • @lowlandgrub88
    @lowlandgrub88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i really dont fucking like how they are making light of how francis said he was going to kill himself. obvs no one there has lost anyone to suicide

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Red Head and harvard are to reconcile

  • @user-ez9oy2oy2k
    @user-ez9oy2oy2k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Rudy has always been so pathetic and worthless. 100% on Francis side; I wish he wasn’t joking about it. The “biggest leach, never done anything, makes everything he’s in worse” Rudy should be lambasted. Go Francis Go

  • @PaydayPlaysYT
    @PaydayPlaysYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RUDY WITH THE LOWER DECKY LIP PILLOWS BEFORE FRANCIS COMES ON 🐐🐐

  • @chrisdongu9477
    @chrisdongu9477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terrible caption I was just about to watch the last episode 😤

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im nit willing to die fort he state of Califnonina

  • @saifmahmood9022
    @saifmahmood9022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kevin is literally a cancer to the success of this show, anytime they are about to talk about something remotely interesting he jumps in and starts rambling

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francis brings a lot to the the table...but it aint views

  • @mf73tastucker3
    @mf73tastucker3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KFC with his pillow and way fidgets 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Editing a different shirt.

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DEm Eyebrows are
    ..

  • @TheEasyLifee
    @TheEasyLifee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the people in the comments bitching is hilarious😂 Not a single person at the NY office besides KFC could do this show. Hes the only one thats not scared to bring the drama and actually dive into the shit everyone else is too pussy to talk about or take sides on. Theres plenty of other barstool shows you can go watch, this show doesnt happen or work without KFC so get over it.

  • @iamjacquesbarjon
    @iamjacquesbarjon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spider's gonna pay her. That would be INSANE to not pay her after all that. He's gotta actually get the money and calculate how much he's getting post-tax. Everybody needs to relax.

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Given how excited they are about $25k, they probably make so little money that it’ll be taxed at 0%.

  • @commguy7331
    @commguy7331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meghan is petty.

  • @ryancallahan6412
    @ryancallahan6412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Spider didn’t give half the money. He STOLE half of her money!

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Teal doesnt suit you K

  • @andrewkoly
    @andrewkoly 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bad title

  • @Rickyreds
    @Rickyreds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stu killed Francis on the yak 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Poise716
    @Poise716 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Francis is a goat

  • @andrewrodgers1025
    @andrewrodgers1025 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One more thing if you weirdos hate Kevin so much, just stop watching/listening to Barstool Radio.

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you cros ur legs HARDER

  • @kielk3781
    @kielk3781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did Francis spoil the Writer Cup?

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tooo many gingers

  • @alexreichline
    @alexreichline 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stu is right. Francis’ parents did an absolutely terrible job raising him. For a grown man not to be able to handle himself in that situation is a complete failure by his mom and dad. Just awful. They should be ashamed.

    • @R.A.A.A.F.
      @R.A.A.A.F. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can I watch Stu’s take? 100% agree, entitled rich kid.

    • @alexreichline
      @alexreichline 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Todays Yak.

    • @dmauro100
      @dmauro100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WTF are you talking about? It was mostly performative and he went up to Rudy immediately after his speech to tell him so… did you even watch this episode? I don’t get how YOU don’t get his shtick at this point…

    • @alexreichline
      @alexreichline 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Calm down. It’s all schtick. Not sure how YOU don’t get that yet. But that shouldn’t take away from Stu’s point that Francis’ parents did a terrible job.

  • @Do.kenneth
    @Do.kenneth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    KFC

  • @johnstrom5910
    @johnstrom5910 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way both KFC and Feits laugh at every single word like it's the FUNNIEST THING they have EVER HEARD is so dang annoying. Everything can't be THAT FUNNY! They are the Bert Kreischer of Barstool. Just ANNOYING laughing SO HARD at EVERYTHING. No wonder they are friends with him...

    • @bucktrucker5173
      @bucktrucker5173 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feits laughs at everything and so loud - it’s almost as annoying as kfc interrupting

  • @ryanciero3160
    @ryanciero3160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ginger

  • @alexreichline
    @alexreichline 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francis is like after not going to bat for the guy and making sure he would never win 25k I immediately went over to him to let him know we were actually cool. Like what?

  • @louisloother301
    @louisloother301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rudy should've won; he clearly played the best game & carried Spider & Megan to the end 💯💯💯 Francis & the other contestants sounded like sensitive bitches; it was a terrible ending to a terrible season 😂😂😂 Grace, Dana Beers, & Megan should not be allowed back on a reality show.

    • @dmauro100
      @dmauro100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re an idiot… but I agree about Grace