DIRECTORS LOAN ACCOUNTS EXPLAINED (BASICS UK)

[@HeelanAssociates]

Other videos on this subject:
How to repay a loan account: th-cam.com/video/lfSFyrRzzXw/w-d-xo.html
How to start a loan account: th-cam.com/video/EfIgxZyHjZk/w-d-xo.html

[@keiranbaker3714]

Just having the error!! Awsome this made the video for me ❤

[@HeelanAssociates]

Glad it helped!

[@juanmiguel1144]

Thank you for this!
What about when the other scenario, the director pays for some business expenses and then adds them as DLA on the accounts as the company doesn’t have the funds to paid them back yet? Will it have any tax implications?
Loved your content, easy subscribe!
Thank you.

[@HeelanAssociates]

Glad you enjoyed! What you describe is one of the most common uses. It just means where they are funds you can be repaid. If the loan account is in your favour it’s all good.

[@detweiler]

Would it be possible to make a video on the step by step process on how to set up a director's loan? Both ways of me loaning money to the company and me borrowing money from the company would be cool

[@HeelanAssociates]

Hi Dakim,
Have you seen the other videos on this? The open/close/repay ones should help answer this for you.

[@detweiler]

@@HeelanAssociates yess I had actually found them by looking them up right after leaving this comment, thankk youu

[@mrmunawa2456]

Hello, love the way you explain things. So easy to follow.
I have no savings or capital but I want to start a limited company selling used cars. I was thinking of opening a limited company and then investing my salary into the limited company until there is enough for me to buy a couple of cars to start trading. This would be done using the salary money I’ve put into the limited company.
Is this possible?

[@HeelanAssociates]

Yes that sounds you opening your directors loan account with your salary!
As a side note, with second hand cars it’s easy to hit the vat threshold. When you do there is something called the second hand margin scheme that is the usual thing used. You may need support with that so worth factoring in with the costs of generally the year end accounts, any wider accounting costs in your initial plans.
Good luck!

[@mrmunawa2456]

@@HeelanAssociates thank you so much for replying.

[@mightyminisuk4295]

Hi there, dont know where else to ask.
Ive just registered a LTD Vat registered company as myself as sole director. I also have a completely seperate busines as a sole trader.
I was thinking of adding my wife as a director of the LTD.She also works a full time job.
So how would all that effect financials with HMRC?

[@HeelanAssociates]

If you don’t pay her anything, wouldn’t change the financials. She could be a director and not be paid. If you were to run a payroll and pay her, likely would have an effect on her tax.

[@jacobchapman5616]

Hi Dan, as the Director of a company. Say I loan my company £10k, to get it up and running. Assuming no interest on the loan is placed by myself the Director. At some point in the future say I take the £10k back assuming again no interest, is there any tax implications? As of course it would make sense to take your directors loans repaid in full before taking any dividends. Thanks for the video.

[@HeelanAssociates]

There should be no personal tax implications when repaying a Directors loan (up to the value you are owed) where you are just owed some money you put in.
The company may have had paid corporation tax on some of it as a side note (usually because you generated profits to repay it), but not always (could have investment that repays you loan for example).
As another side note, sometimes it could make sense to not take the directors loan over dividends, if you were to loose allowances or may have a need for provable income (like a mortgage) for example.

[@deanscott3357]

Hi i am in the process of purchasing a ltd company for a holiday let, basically the company owns the apartment (asset) and owes 120k on an existing bank loan. The current director loaned the company 150k 7 years ago to purchase the asset and furnish it. This still shows on the micro accounts. My question is, if i become director would he have any legal claim to request the 150k loan? He assures me he/ we will have a board meeting and record minutes to confirm the company is no longer liable to repay and this can be removed from the next set of accounts. Does this sound correct?

[@HeelanAssociates]

Sadly all comes down to documentation. If you buy a company with that debt it is still owed. Normally you would deal with it (find a way to write it off/clear it) before buying it; there are a few ways to do this depending on the scenario.

[@evaevika3327]

Wondering how i need to change: paid bills from own money, on xero should i use owners funds or it also must be directors loan account

[@HeelanAssociates]

If limited usually directors loan if the person who paid is a director. Owners funds for sole trade / self employed.

[@MIKEorpse]

Hi,
If the company owes money to the director, so the DLA is in credit, can they take stock for personal use and just Dr the DLA?
If so, what would be the double entry for this?
Thanks

[@HeelanAssociates]

It maybe possible. You would have to consider any VaT implications if vat registered though.
The exact double entry depends on a lot of your ‘chart of accounts’ / nominal code set up.

[@user-gb2gq8lb3s]

Should I loan my company money about £10,000/-) from my personal account to buy a VAN for business as I can’t access business finance at the moment ? Is it a good idea ?

[@HeelanAssociates]

It’s normal to lend money to the company to get it going. I couldn’t say if it’s an overall good idea without knowing a lot more on your situation, which we couldn’t do here :)

[@user-gb2gq8lb3s]

@@HeelanAssociates thank you 🙏

[@amaraakhtar2968]

Are director loans paid back before or after tax?

[@HeelanAssociates]

Technically either, they are like any other company debt. In reality / practically you will usually pay after everything else including tax.

[@QasimAli-ir1zi]

Hi dan i have a question,
Lets say i have a personal debt of 5000 and i want to clear that as soon as possible. Could i take out a director's loan of 5000 lets say march of this year clear that debt, work another month or so earn 5000 through working for the company do i need to pay tax on that?

[@HeelanAssociates]

You’d likely pay corporation tax on the profit on the £5000, so you’d have to take that into consideration and any personal tax on the money you draw. But cash flow wise you can access the £5000 b

[@rodgerq]

Am I right in thinking if I take a 10k directors loan right at the start of the year, I'd have a year and 9 months to pay that back? Thanks.

[@HeelanAssociates]

Yes in terms of tax consequences for overdrawn loan accounts, if you took it out on day 1 of the company financial year.
You could take longer to pay it back but you’d incur tax charges.

[@rodgerq]

@@HeelanAssociates thank you.

[@jwilson1980]

I still have no idea what a directors loan is.

[@HeelanAssociates]

Hi John, would love to help. Can you expand a little for me, what’s your questions / not clear? May even do a vid to expand 🙂

[@proposalboxco]

Hi Dan, can you let me know whether this is correct. So I have a personal bill that I need to pay off quite urgently but do not have the funds to do so. Am I allowed to transfer an amount as small as £100 from my business bank account into my personal bank account to pay this. Then all I would have to do is reconcile this transaction as DLA. Then I just transfer it back with the minimum interest when I am able to before the end of the financial year and also mark this as a DLA? Would I additionally need evidence on what the loan was spent on. Or is it as long as it is paid back and correctly recorded in the DLA?

[@HeelanAssociates]

Hi Emily,
Yes in theory, in general, it’s as easy as paying to yourself and recording as DLA.
You would need to consider for ease repaying it to clear the directors loan account before year end to avoid any tax complications.
For just £100 you wouldn’t have to charge interest as you can have up to £10,000 loaned to you without that need (we have another video on that).
You might decide if you had enough profits not to repay it, and note salary or dividend on paper to counteract the amount you owe - this is a hard one to explain in a comment though.

[@matthewjones6848]

Hi there, would it be possible for me to bank transfer myself £10,000 instead of setting up a directors loan account? Also when it comes to paying interest, would only the interest payments be subject to tax, or the entire sum if over £10,000? Thanks!

[@HeelanAssociates]

You bank transferring yourself an amount of money that’s not salary dividend etc is basically opening a loan account.
Re interest are we talking about the company and tax or the director and their tax?

[@burropoco]

2:48 "...cake for the wife and kids" ahhh...for the wife and kids lol. Nicely explained video btw, thanks.

[@HeelanAssociates]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ky18238]

Hi Dan, in what situation is FRS 102 applicable?

[@HeelanAssociates]

FRs102 is an accounting standard. Normally in the Uk use tend to use FrS102a as it’s got slightly less ‘stuff’ in the accounts.
Micro companies can use 105.
So they are always in play for a limited, it’s just a matter of choice / what you are allowed to do.

[@laughinglikefuck297]

Is a director loan account a bank account that should be set up in your personal name in your personal banking?

[@HeelanAssociates]

No it’s effectively a theoretical place, in your accounts to keep track.

[@laughinglikefuck297]

@@HeelanAssociates perfect thank you 🙏 so a ledger basically.

[@user-gb2gq8lb3s]

@@HeelanAssociatesthis was the answer I was looking for too 😊