CORRECTION: The mesoamericans had domesticated Turkeys, as well. I'm gonna do a little Roman plushie soon! Be sure to be a cool gamer and get one 😎 www.reddit.com/r/DJ_Peach_Cobbler/comments/14lwwkp/whats_under_the_toga/
Get yourself a Kyle. Kyles have been known to punch drywall. Just give that Kyle a few cans of monster and leave him alone in your house for a hour or two. He will scare the federal agents/skinwalker/rats/ and whatever is in your walls out of your house.
Fun fact, Italy's red white and green flag means, tomato, mozzarella and basil. I can confirm I am Italian, and many of my compatriots agree. The Italian flag is just a big Caprese.
This man is so bizarre, he'll go from explaining BioShock's fatal mistake to talking about the failed secret government operation to change society forever
It would be funnier to imagine that the reason the dog who ran away and came back was "plump" was because it was, in fact, pregnant and Diaz was simply too dense to realize the dog had been female all along. Because, as everyone knows, dogs are male whereas it is cats who are female.
It's sad to think that that one dog may have been responsible for the deaths of many of the native ones. Sadly, American dogs ended up being hit far harder than the people by disease
It can also be just getting plump in "target rich environment" the dog is basically a apex predator in a place where nobody expects it. It pobably didnt eat that well and get that much exrercise in a ship
@@Ganbalf I'm a history buff and FNV is one of my favorite games, and a friend of mine who is also a big history buff also loves FNV... well damn, maybe you're onto something.
Pretty sure he has studied it. Mayhaps one could say he'd have a degree in it. Magic mirror on the wall, does DJ Cobbler hold a PhD about the invasion of Gaul?
@@Ganbalf I want to say "correlation ≠ causation" but damn it, Fallout New Vegas literally got me into Roman history (I was always interested in history, but never cared about the ancient era nor classical antiquity or anything before or even after).
Fun fact about the Aztecs, they're not actually called Aztecs they called themselves Mexicas. Aztecs is sort of like Byzantine, that term was only used later
The Aztec empire was the union of 3 great cities Texcoco, Tlacopan and Tenochtitlan, the later became the capital, and it's people, the mexica, are most associated with the empire but they were not the only ones, it was the Triple Alliance
@@breakerdawn8429 It wasn't most of Mexico, if you search "Aztec Empire map" you will see it wasn't that big, modern Mexico is bigger. And just kinda the other tribes were little, at least the tlaxcalans were never conquered by the aztecs, and even there was a tlatoani of texcoco, Ixtlilxóchitl, who wanted the mexica to fall. He later took the name of Hernan Cortez, so he became Hernando Cortés Ixtlilxóchitl
I do writeups and work with various history and archeology channels with their content on Mesoamerica (The Aztec, Maya, etc), so I wanted to give some clarification and corrections on some stuff here (I also previously left a comment on Cobbler's "What did the Romans think of the Greeks?" video about Aztec stereotypes/views of other Mesoamerican civilizations). Firstly, while all the examples from Bernal Diaz's accounts that Cobbler happens to brings up seem fine/reliable,, I want to further emphasize the issues of bias and unreliability that Bernal Diaz has as a source in other cases: Beyond the obvious problems you'd expect regarding him writing to justify and glorify his own actions, he was also writing many, many decades after the events of the expeditions, which introduces issues with memory, and he was clearly adopting information present in other accounts published in the interim, even when that info was wrong or invented (While Diaz was writing in part to counter accounts such as those published by Gomara, who embellished from Cortes's letters, Diaz actually works in some of those embellishments in his own account), including information that Bernal Diaz wasn't even present for to know. Some researchers go as far as to claim that Diaz wasn't even a part of the Cortes expedition at all, though I wouldn't personally go that far and i'm not sure that assertion would be applicable to the 1517 and 1518 expeditions Cobbler focuses on here. That's not to say I discourage people from reading his account ("The True History of the Conquest of New Spain") but I do think that one should read companion works written by modern historians which analyze the contradictions between different accounts alongside it (or Cortes's letters, the Anonymous Conquerer's account, Tapia's, etc). "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest" and "When Montezuma Met Cortes", both by Matthew Restall, are good suggestions for that: The former is more a generalized breakdown of common myths and misconceptions, while the latter is more focused on the contradictions and historiography/the ways it has been written about over time for Cortes's meeting with Moctezuma II and stay in Tenochtitlan (The Aztec capital) specifically, as well as the different political factions and dynamics and motivations both on the Spanish and Mesoamerican side. The latter i think is more interesting, especially regarding those competing political interests with different Spanish officials, Conquistadors, Mesoamerican kings, etc all variously using each other against the others, but for somebody not already super familiar with the subject matter, the former is probably more required reading. Additionally, I'd specifically suggest the "History of the Conquest of New Spain" translation by Davíd Carrasco for reading Diaz's account (or the unabridged 1908 AP Maudsley translation if you can find it), as many other printings and translations exclude the campaigns against Maya states in Guatemala and just ends stuff after the fall of Tenochtitlan. Secondly, It should be noted that a lot of the images used here aren't accurate. Some of this is pedantic (the Morion style helmet wasn't used by Conquistadors in these early 16th century expeditions), but when it comes to depictions of Mesoamerican things, they are VERY off to the point of not being visually representative at all. (The thumbnail actually depicts Spanish expeditions in Southeast Asia!) This isn't really Cobbler's fault, since unless you're already a Mesoamerican history nerd who knows the best modern artists tackling the subject who allow their art in videos, or where to get scans of actual Aztec manuscripts (and Cobbler, if you want, I can hook you up with both!); then your only obvious royalty free image options are many century old paintings and sketches made by Medieval, Victorian, etc artists who had never seen anything related to Mesoamerica. But the bottom line is that actual Mesoamerican art, architectural, fashion, etc aesthetics, especially for the Aztec, is almost NOTHING like what those sorts of historical art or most pop culture depictions look like. As an example, the painting at 0:32 depictions Aztec and other Mesoamerican people basically naked in loincloths and Tenochtitlan full of grey, drab buildings cramped together with European style architectural conventions. In reality, men would have worn cloaks/mantles a bit like Greco-roman togas, while women wore baggy blouses (actual accurate art of Aztec noblewomen with their distinctive hair buns and flowy huipil blouses i've seen people mistake for Japanese Geisha) with nobles having them in a variety of colors and with different geometric, floral, animal, and mythological designs and jade, gold, turquoise, and fine feather jewelry and ornaments All of the monumental large scale structures would have been covered in smooth gleaming white stucco, and then painted and accented with murals, reliefs, sculptural facedes, etc. The actual Aztec (and Teotihuacano, to a lesser extent Mixtec, etc) architectural style is, if anything, closer to Minoan palaces at places like Knossos more then anything else (just without multiple stacked floors/stories in most cases) with palaces having square geometric style rooms with flat roofs, and patios with columns surrounding open courtyards, geometric roof trim accents, etc.Tenochtitlan had most of it's temples, palaces, ball courts, etc arranged in a quasi grid layout spaced out around large open plazas (with many botanical gardens, aviaries, zoos, etc built in palace courtyards or around them) with the outskirts being grids of artificial islands housing both commoner homes and acting hydroponic farms with Venice like canals between them. If people want good visual examples of this all, i'd recommend the paintings of Aztec cityscapes by Scott and Stuart Gentling, depictions of Mesoamerican clothing by Kamazotz/Zotzcomic/Daniel Parada, Rafael Mena, OHS688 (some of his art is furry, but the fashion is all accurate), etc. This ties into the third point I want to cover, which is that "Tribe", "Chief", etc really aren't the applicable terms here: Again, we're talking not about drab looking grey temples surrounded by a few huts or jungle, and people naked with feather headdresses, but rather stuff like Minoan Venice x the Hanging gardens of Babylon. These were city-states, kingdoms, and empires, and they had kings, senators (yes, a few Mesoamerican states were republics with senates!), etc, and that had been the case for a long time: Cities, writing etc going back 2500+ years before the Spanish arrived. There were dozens of major civilizations and hundreds of kingdoms and empires that rose and fell before the Aztec even became a thing. Now, again, the video here is talking about the 1517 and 1518 expeditions which included travel to areas in the Caribbean which did have less organized tribal societies (In fact, some of the Spanish accounts in those expeditions excitedly talk about how the natives on the mainland actually...wore clothes!) but most of the places that got mentioned were in Veracruz, Tabasco, the Yucatan, etc, which were inside Mesoamerica. Next, to be clear, the "Axes" that got mentioned here wouldn't have been like actual full hatchets, but rather thin, axehead shaped objects variously made of copper or bronze (yes, Mesoamerica smelted bronze!) known as axe-monies which were used as a standard medium of exchange (not quite a formalized "currency", but close enough). There WERE actual functional metal axes/hatchets too, as well as adzes, but those would have actually had wooden handles/shafts, which the Axe-monies didn't, despite the visual mockups in the video show. (There's additional complications here in that a lot of photos online will show axe monies as if they were functional axeheads, and if metal axes were actually used in warfare as implied in some visual manuscripts or were purely used in domestic/labor contexts is a subject of debate) Regarding animal domestication, there were other domesticated animals in the Americas beyond Alpaca/llamas, Guinea Pigs, and dogs (by the way, I highly suggest people look up the Mesoamerican dog ceramics from Colima): The Maya and I think some groups in West Mexico had domesticated bees used for honey production, and Turkeys were also domesticated in Mesoamerica, used for food. There were also tamed hares/rabbits and deer kept in nature preserves and parks, but they weren't fully domesticated. So the Mesoamericans definitely had access to meats and eggs, though eating meat wasn't as common as it was in Eurasia. On the note of Deer, there's quite a few other reactions we have by Mesoamericans of Spanish things and vis versa. I'm already almost at TH-cam's character limit, so sadly I can't give an in depth list of descriptions like I did with Aztec stereotypes/descriptions of other local civilizations, but for example, the Mesoamericans talked about horses as being "large deer", and part of the reason they were so keen on getting Spanish beads is that blue-green stones like turquoise and jade were the most valuable material substances above gold and silver (and fine feathers, though some featherwork art pieces would have been more valuable then even jade/turquoise: Look up the mesoamerican made iridescent feather mosaic paintings produced for the Spanish in the early colonial period to get a sense of how Aztec warsuits, shields, feather blankets/tapestries, etc would have looked!), so blue or green glass beads were seen as similarly valuable. The Mesoamericans called large Spanish boats "floating houses", while you can read Spanish accounts describing rattlesnakes, quetzals, corn, vanilla, chocolate, etc for the first time in their own words. Anyways, i'll probably shoot Dj Cobbler an email so if he does a follow up video as the ending implies he will, I can maybe send some resources for that!
While Spain and its conquests are the topic I’m also gonna plug Matthew Restall and Florine Asselbergs ‘Invading Guatemala’. It’s a compendium and commentary on Spanish, Mayan, and Nahua accounts of the extremely long conquest of Guatemala and the surrounding region, which wasn’t a simple 6 year long war as we might assume but an extremely long process and struggle that took over one-hundred years. Mayan kingdoms in the Peten Basin kicked around for a very long time, the final city being captured by Spain in 1697, several generations after the first Spanish conquests and landings. Genuinely a very good read that isn’t super dry or boring either.
Tomatoes were originally served on pewter plates... and the acid dissolved some of the pewter chemicals which were then eaten. So it was literally poisonous. But nobody suspected it was the plates so they assumed all tomatoes were bad.
@@crampusmaximus8849 Why? The term "mad hatter" literally exists because in the 1800s hatters would go insane from heavy metal poisoning as they worked with lead...
I like that oranges story. It shows a small period of peace, understanding, and legitimate sharing of new things amongst different peoples. It help shows that not every interaction between different groups ends in violence or some scheme. And probably why it stuck out in Diaz’s mind is a combination of that sense of peace and probably a bit of pride as well. That he introduced something that was liked and respected by the natives well enough for them to take care of them and likely spread them further.
I agree that little anecdote about the orange trees was incredible. Here you have a man who went with the spearhead of the discovery of a new world and partook inthe destruction of it. Always knowing that defeat would mean beeing sacrificied by your enemies, in the most hostile land for an eurpoean at the time and yet what haunts him the most as he is writting his memory of the events is that some fucking scrawny ass, library worm nerds will go "actually this is not very relevant to the conquest of the new world☝️🤓". That element is such a human aspect that I love, no matter the grandious events of old there is always an underlying current of humanity, being it wackiness, doubt, insecurity, agendas or the own life of the author bleeding into the pages. Is what makes history great you get to connect on a human level with the past.
@@OrgusDinyou're the Elephant's Foot of Hitler particles. The only way you can have a positive contribution to this planet is by removing yourself from it. Think on this.
Glad you’re shifting gears a bit from classical history onto other periods. The early conquest of the Americas and the first contact stories with the natives are some of my favorite historical topics to read about, and deserve plenty of attention.
Sir , I for the last year was fascinated by precolumbian america nad it's history going from 1000 ad to 1900 ad , and seeing you bring that history in your format is a great joy for me , hats off to you and I will be waiting with the up most impataince for the next material . ( apologies for any grammar mistakes I have made ; I'm not a native speaker )
We are all so ready to remember the conquest, plague and death of uncounted masses. That this small, human moment of an old man recaling a time he planted some orange trees in a new land but to grow self concious and erase it hits a lil different. I like this story too, even history's legends were some kind of people. With emotions and memories. Maybe even dreams. Not too far from our own.
I did think it was funny, in the last video he was talking about the Aztec death whistle and how thats a culture he'd like to know more about, and now we're going down the rabbit hole with him
Loving the 4am uploads, this is the way. Also I think you’d love TES 3 Morrowind. Sure it’s old but it’s not too hard and the atmosphere and design goes hard and really contains something that Skyrim and Oblivion lost when Todd watched Lord of the Rings. There is also an ungodly amount of room for your story telling style to build off of narratives in there.
I kinda wanna make him play Xenoblade. It is really good after all. And the existential crisis of him possibly liking an anime game would be hilarious to watch.
Hay varias historias que son interesantes y fascinantes. Una de mis favoritas es la de la republica de Honduras, en el proceso de formación de una identidad nacional, símbolos nacionales y "mitos" de su origen describen un "cacique" indígena llamado "Lempira". "Lempira" era líder de la tribu "Lenca", descrito como bravo, obstinado, con destacable sentido de liderazgo y astucia. La presencia de los españoles unió a los nativos en una alianza con Lempira como su líder. La historia que Antonio de Herrera y Tordesillas cuenta es una historia donde Lempira es traicionado en un acuerdo de paz con los españoles, un soldado español estaba oculto en un arbusto y con un "arcabuz"(Arquebus) disparo a Lempira matándolo al instante. Esta historia fue literalmente tomada por los fundadores de la nación, Lempira se convirtió en un "Héroe nacional", símbolo de rebeldía contra España, la moneda local de la nación es el "Lempira", uno de sus billetes porta el rostro de Lempira, una provincia de la nación es llamada Lempira. Sin embargo, muchos años después (O mejor dicho recientemente) en México se descubren las escrituras de Rodrigo Ruíz, militar Español que participo en la conquista de Honduras. En ella Rodrigo Ruíz describe como combatió a Lempira y lo mato en combate, no hay mención de acuerdos de paz, ni de traición, ni de haber usado un arcabuz para matar a Lempira no solo eso sino que también se descubre que "Lempira" es un titulo no un nombre "El señor de la sierra" lo que significa que cualquier líder Lenca se puede llamar Lempira.
Gonna be honest my man. I watched almost every video you made in one go. Your videos are art. They offer information in a brutally humorous style I used to love from backseat "historians" with wonderful production quality and you are entertaining in a genuine way that is lost in nearly all modern artistic endeavors. Thank you for your channel my man.
I love this channel, im so excited for my new hit of wifi straight into the vein as i go insane listening about how games failed or suceeded, rome, and general finances.
There was something very beautiful about the orange tree story. It's those little moments, man. Also, that exit song activated memories I had forgotten were there
Quick question, what was your major, if you had one? Because you've taught me more about history than the Texas A&M History Department has in the past four years.
Been watching for about a year and a half and it's become a ritual that I watch the cobbler more than any other TH-camr, bro you deserve so much more recognition for your work it's amazing
Thank you for posting a new video, I can’t get off to the old ones like I used to. Overtime the same recordings of a voice lose their luster after so much… use.
8:45 reminds me of when here in Australia we turned a Rottnest island internment camp, in which many people were tortured and killed, into a cheap motel where tourists can sleep in the former cells in which many experienced their last moments on Earth!
I watched this earlier via phone with my limited data plan so I had to lower the quality to 144p. I just noticed the thumbnail that you used depicts the Battle of Mactan in the Philippines.
Love the style you are going for. Making a crt tv inside a hi def 3d model is so dumb and yet so brilliant. beautifully rendered border connected to a bitscape version of a classical painting with the classic cobbler face in...that blew me away! Love everything that you do!
Cobbler, every video I flip flop between pure joy and morbid intrigue. And then without fail hits a unusually genuine moment, like the reflection on Diaz writing about oranges. That was my favourite part of the video. Thanks DJPC
Kinda funny that the thumbnail pic does not depict an event in the Americas but in south east asia, The Philippines. Specifically when Magellan was killed by a warrior from Mactan. Another lesser known fact I guess.
This is a great channel and I am happy to watch it, wherever it may go. This donation was not, I repeat, not done because the plush I orders is presenting me with mutilated animals and will not stop unless I donate.
Just want you to know - I subscribed when I discovered you're military (via "DD214" name drop in older video). As a Vet myself, I'm happy to support a brother. I love your videos and the historical direction they've taken, so please keep up the great work! What branch, if I may be so bold? I'd say, you're too smart to be Army, and you're nose isn't brown enough to be Air Force. However, I can see you being "pissed off" enough to be Marines (Ooh Rah), but you made whole videos about Romans and... Greeks. Go Navy! (Unless of course you were Coast Guard... I wouldn't know how to feel if you were Coast Guard.) Jokes aside, your efforts are appreciated, and I wish you the best. If you're ever in Tennessee, I'd be happy to buy you a drink.
I really loved this video. It clearly took a lot of work, and I really enjoy the way you handled cobbler's presentation: The chair, The globe and The stories. Clearly a deliberate way of representing the very situation of Cortez: He was a man, who traveled the globe and had something to tell. I really like when you take time to add these little things that enhance the way we interact with your narration. And as to Cortez' stories, is great to know that someone like him wrote. More of us should, it might not be as flashy and rethoric as the "Scholars" but it is what you know. That's honesty.
Yes, bring me all the historical takes. The finest of unhinged ramblings and ultra coherent informative deep dives. This is the future I was promised, and demand.
13:01 I find it very sweet that even if he was still somewhat joking, that somebody out there truly appreciated the orange story that señor Diaz thought would have been stupid and unimportant
The siege of tenochtitlan has a funny trebuchet and cavalry charge on flagstones stories which as far as I am aware are largely based in fact. This account from Bernal seems fun to read. I will see if I can find a copy of the original online.
@@concept5631 I have heard of crossbows being used as they pierced sand bags in Stalingrad. And modern tests prove that arrows indeed pierce sandbags where bullets don't. So I would not be too surprized to hear there were T-34s in Technotitlan or obsidian weapons in Stalingrad but history once again failed to record it. /j
You are right: the "guns" part makes no sense until the later half of the 17th century. Still, it's not that wrong either, since the key part of the "glory" revolves more around shipping than national prestige, and it was cannons that enabled both reliable expansion, and defense.
Also because the Spanish were never a unitary entity. You would have people like Hernan Cortez or Pizarro or Diego de Almagro who were conquistadores, who had not much to do with the spanish crown. And in the case of Pizarro, he fought Diego de Almagro and his lands and people, to then throwing hands with the Spanish crown who intervened and its even why the Spanish managed to take control over the Incan territories. The crown itself was very pro-indigenous going as far back as Isabella la Catolica making decrees and stating how she wanted to protect the natives from abuses. That’s why laws like Las leyes de burgos or las leyes nuevas de 1542 came to fruition. But then there were viceroys like Viceroy Toledo who forced historians and chronists to write excuses as to why the spanish should be taking direct control of the Incan lands. Then after he was gone the chronists who would arrive after would write all sorts of slanders and criticisms of Toledo’s approach and friars would often be the ones who advocated for the wellbeing of the natives. And yet Even within the friars, there was no unity, people like francisco de Vitoria would be openly critical of other friars like Bartolome de Las Casas who did frankly wrote a lot of baloney and deserved the criticism. The whole thing with regards to the Spanish in the americas given how many different factions there were could totally work as multiple game of thrones type series honestly.
That eyewitness theme :) nostalgic. anyway, please do the story justice, because most people get this shit really wrong. It seems people don't even really understand what the aztec empire even was - much less the existing geopolitical situation surrounding them that the spanish were able to exploit. people just see victim "tribes" that joined cortes because they were so afraid of aztec sacrifices or whatever, which is so far from the truth. There were no tribes anywhere near the aztecs, only rival or subject states and empires. The Tlaxcalans being the big important ones during the conquest, who had already fought multiple major defensive wars against the aztecs (wars meant to conquer, not flower wars). They did not join the spanish because of aztec sacrifice - they, along with practically everyone in mesoamerica, sacrificed as well - if you believe what the natives said about the flower wars in the spanish accounts, they agreed to the flower wars specifically for this purpose. They did not really "join" the spanish at all - it would be more accurate to say the spanish joined their long lasting war against the aztecs. They had judged the spanish worthy after fighting them (diaz' account here is pretty interesting because he portrays it as if the tlaxcalans could have easily killed all the spanish - he attributes them sparing the conquistadors to divine intervention). And from there, many of the tributary states (tributary only in resources, not in sacrifices - the aztec empire was fairly hands-off as an empire, it basically just demanded tribute and military support from a bunch of smaller city states) joined against the aztecs seeing which direction the wind was blowing, eventually even including Texcoco, one of the three in the triple alliance that was the aztec empire. The other part that bothers me so much is that the tlaxcalans didnt just give themselves up to the spanish - they saw the spanish as independent allies and gave them tenochtitlan and were treated as such by the spanish as well for a long time, before they were eventually absorbed after their population was essentially gone from disease. The whole story is one big tragedy - but honestly, not as tragic as the conquest of the andes.
So basically it started out how most normal diplomatic wars start out. Rival kingdoms find Allie’s who help them and they become the new power as a result. The only real difference is the disease getting involved. That actually leads me to wonder what it would be like if disease hadn’t played a role, because I think a timeline were outside of a few ports and some territorial conquests the Europeans and natives essentially saw and treated each other as trade partners, Allie’s, and rivals on a scale similar to how Europe treated fellow kingsdom and empires like the ottomans would be fascinating
The Spaniards were so comically greedy it’s hilarious. I know a story where they searched for gold and found platinum, and they threw tonnes of it into the sea because it wasn’t gold.
Cortés was he tried to scam the others, when it was time to share the gold among his men he gave them shit, so lttle in fact a lot of them rejected it so they could get a better payment latter.
7:44 Honestly, while I know Diaz is biased, let’s be honest there isn’t one man on this earth who isn’t. But there’s something about him that makes me trust him. His entire goal in writing the book was to correct contemporary histories coming out, as you said he even had doubts about his abilities which made him consider not finishing it. But he still finished it for the sake of telling the truth. So, even if there may be things that he exaggerated or misunderstood, at a baseline, I still trust him.
Sometimes you got to appreciate the account from an old grunt, since it does give you a more grounded (or as grounded a few centuries old account can be) view of historical accounts. Like Xenophon's "Anabasis" (though he was more of a commander than grunt, but hey)
I wish colonies of the spanish empire would be refered to as provinces somewhere on the internet, like they were actually treated and refered of as in the real thing
But they weren't treated like provinces? Maybe Gran Colombia would be an exception. But these "provinces" were mostly overseas holdings, not governed directly, and only held so that Castille could exploit their resources to enrich themselves. That's a colony.
@@InnerDness no, thats just the copypasted explaination that applies only to the british empire. In the spanish empire far more infrastructure was created, to the point were these "colonies" have many cities and buildings considered world heritage, were in north ameica it was the wild west bevause it was only random underdeveloped towns everywere. Plus every person even natives was considered a citizen just the same as someone in the mainland, to the point were many went to spain to get education. Tell me what north american native went to the UK to study at a prestigious university
@@aguspuig6615 the answer is that north american natives didnt have to go to europe to study because european universities and whatnot went to the US instead. the US became an extension of European and particularly UK cultural practices and norms. if you're apache descendant and you want an advanced education, you'll go to one of the hundreds of american universiities and colleges. meanwhile, a brazilian or argentinian will have to go to portugal or spain or start learning english.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516you are half correct, Portugal did keep the universities in Europe, but Spain had built several universities across the viceroyalties, if you search in google “Universidades de Hispanoamerica” you will get even a map of them, though some of them were later closed with the expulsion of the jesuits.
Are you planning on only doing videos about the Spanish Conquest regarding Bernal Diaz book? because I think your history videos are great and hilarious, and I think it would be a shame to stick only to the Aztec part of the Spanish Conquest, specially having into account that this could be useful to teach people that usually wouldn't be bothered to look this up. I'm a Hispanic viewer myself and I think that would be great
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CORRECTION: The mesoamericans had domesticated Turkeys, as well.
I'm gonna do a little Roman plushie soon! Be sure to be a cool gamer and get one 😎 www.reddit.com/r/DJ_Peach_Cobbler/comments/14lwwkp/whats_under_the_toga/
Banana rama
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There are federal agents in my walls.
Put a dog in a lobster trap and they'll fall in it, they love killin dogs, the sickos.
Banana rama
My neighbour is ex ATF and I hear him dive for cover every time my dog barks
@@700killerkidbanana rama
Get yourself a Kyle.
Kyles have been known to punch drywall. Just give that Kyle a few cans of monster and leave him alone in your house for a hour or two. He will scare the federal agents/skinwalker/rats/ and whatever is in your walls out of your house.
Fun fact, Italy's red white and green flag means, tomato, mozzarella and basil. I can confirm I am Italian, and many of my compatriots agree. The Italian flag is just a big Caprese.
Margherita*
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* Youz can't hear me. I'm a speakin' a witha my hands ova here.
@@illman8876 Giustamente, non hai tutti I torti.
Caprese is delicious
@@henrypaleveda7760 Amen.
This man is so bizarre, he'll go from explaining BioShock's fatal mistake to talking about the failed secret government operation to change society forever
Life is a game.
He's basically unhinged Vsauce, I love him.
How does content with this level of quality not give this man a million subs
That's exactly why we watch him. He talks about what he's genuinely interested in.
He is a mad man and this is why i fucking love him, he literally thinks out of the box
‘Rapidly sine waving between ‘everyone is stupid’ and ‘I am stupid’.”
I have never felt more represented by an author. I know the feel, Señor Diaz.
Diaz nuts
@@nionashborn7626 This is the perfect example of the what he was talking about: a perfectly smart/stupid joke. Well played.
Truly a thread to connect us throughout the ages.
cobbler never disappoints, he is the human incarnation of “let him cook”
Bake....you bake a pie, you don't cook it. Let him bake.
@@Palemagpie banana rama
hahahaha that sums it up perfectly
U are so right in so many levels give this man a true
@@Palemagpiei love pie 🤤
It would be funnier to imagine that the reason the dog who ran away and came back was "plump" was because it was, in fact, pregnant and Diaz was simply too dense to realize the dog had been female all along. Because, as everyone knows, dogs are male whereas it is cats who are female.
Interesting
It's sad to think that that one dog may have been responsible for the deaths of many of the native ones. Sadly, American dogs ended up being hit far harder than the people by disease
What the dog doin?
It can also be just getting plump in "target rich environment" the dog is basically a apex predator in a place where nobody expects it. It pobably didnt eat that well and get that much exrercise in a ship
Lmao
First Rome, now Spain? Damn Cobbler's a bigger history buff than I thought. Hats off man!
To be fair, i don't think i have seen anyone who loves Fallout New Vegas who are not at least some level of history buff
@@Ganbalf I'm a history buff and FNV is one of my favorite games, and a friend of mine who is also a big history buff also loves FNV... well damn, maybe you're onto something.
Pretty sure he has studied it.
Mayhaps one could say he'd have a degree in it.
Magic mirror on the wall, does DJ Cobbler hold a PhD about the invasion of Gaul?
yep!... your going on the rape list!
@@Ganbalf I want to say "correlation ≠ causation" but damn it, Fallout New Vegas literally got me into Roman history (I was always interested in history, but never cared about the ancient era nor classical antiquity or anything before or even after).
Imagine the state of Spanish women in the 1500s that as a man you’re willing to travel across the world to find a wife
You can Say that the love of british and spanish for exploring and conquering land is the only thing that they agreed on😂
Our ancestors were the original "passport bros". Let that sink the fuck in.
@@pablo_giustiniani the more things change, the more things stay the same
You clearly don't know how shity Extremadura is (Is the region of spain where a lot of conquistadores came from)
I love ruining my sleep schedule to hear ramblings about something ill forget after, its like a real school
Schizophrenic ramblings
He just like me for real.
@@MsjetawayDude. Why are you spamming?
@@FictionHubZA banana rama?
@@FictionHubZA Banana rama has a point
"Is it still Ireland without potatoes?"
Bruh a pretty large chunk of Irish identity is based around a specific and acute LACK of potatoes, so...
You can only miss something if you had it in the first place
@@inigo137that’s one of the saddest comments I’ve ever seen.
@@inigo137 I feel like r9k and wizardchan both disprove this
@@shawndonq135 why?
@@TrinSpin not gonna lie, I have no clue about what you are talking about
Fun fact about the Aztecs, they're not actually called Aztecs they called themselves Mexicas. Aztecs is sort of like Byzantine, that term was only used later
The Aztec empire was the union of 3 great cities Texcoco, Tlacopan and Tenochtitlan, the later became the capital, and it's people, the mexica, are most associated with the empire but they were not the only ones, it was the Triple Alliance
@@LSK947Wait so 3 big tribes get together to control most of Mexico and somehow the little tribes hate being pushed around amd ally with the Spanish
@@breakerdawn8429 It wasn't most of Mexico, if you search "Aztec Empire map" you will see it wasn't that big, modern Mexico is bigger. And just kinda the other tribes were little, at least the tlaxcalans were never conquered by the aztecs, and even there was a tlatoani of texcoco, Ixtlilxóchitl, who wanted the mexica to fall. He later took the name of Hernan Cortez, so he became Hernando Cortés Ixtlilxóchitl
Damn near every culture has called or still calls themselves something different than what foreigners named them
@@MisterCynic18 Right it's such a stupid complaint I am not required to call Germany Deutschland because some German is pissy
I do writeups and work with various history and archeology channels with their content on Mesoamerica (The Aztec, Maya, etc), so I wanted to give some clarification and corrections on some stuff here (I also previously left a comment on Cobbler's "What did the Romans think of the Greeks?" video about Aztec stereotypes/views of other Mesoamerican civilizations). Firstly, while all the examples from Bernal Diaz's accounts that Cobbler happens to brings up seem fine/reliable,, I want to further emphasize the issues of bias and unreliability that Bernal Diaz has as a source in other cases: Beyond the obvious problems you'd expect regarding him writing to justify and glorify his own actions, he was also writing many, many decades after the events of the expeditions, which introduces issues with memory, and he was clearly adopting information present in other accounts published in the interim, even when that info was wrong or invented (While Diaz was writing in part to counter accounts such as those published by Gomara, who embellished from Cortes's letters, Diaz actually works in some of those embellishments in his own account), including information that Bernal Diaz wasn't even present for to know. Some researchers go as far as to claim that Diaz wasn't even a part of the Cortes expedition at all, though I wouldn't personally go that far and i'm not sure that assertion would be applicable to the 1517 and 1518 expeditions Cobbler focuses on here.
That's not to say I discourage people from reading his account ("The True History of the Conquest of New Spain") but I do think that one should read companion works written by modern historians which analyze the contradictions between different accounts alongside it (or Cortes's letters, the Anonymous Conquerer's account, Tapia's, etc). "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest" and "When Montezuma Met Cortes", both by Matthew Restall, are good suggestions for that: The former is more a generalized breakdown of common myths and misconceptions, while the latter is more focused on the contradictions and historiography/the ways it has been written about over time for Cortes's meeting with Moctezuma II and stay in Tenochtitlan (The Aztec capital) specifically, as well as the different political factions and dynamics and motivations both on the Spanish and Mesoamerican side. The latter i think is more interesting, especially regarding those competing political interests with different Spanish officials, Conquistadors, Mesoamerican kings, etc all variously using each other against the others, but for somebody not already super familiar with the subject matter, the former is probably more required reading. Additionally, I'd specifically suggest the "History of the Conquest of New Spain" translation by Davíd Carrasco for reading Diaz's account (or the unabridged 1908 AP Maudsley translation if you can find it), as many other printings and translations exclude the campaigns against Maya states in Guatemala and just ends stuff after the fall of Tenochtitlan.
Secondly, It should be noted that a lot of the images used here aren't accurate. Some of this is pedantic (the Morion style helmet wasn't used by Conquistadors in these early 16th century expeditions), but when it comes to depictions of Mesoamerican things, they are VERY off to the point of not being visually representative at all. (The thumbnail actually depicts Spanish expeditions in Southeast Asia!) This isn't really Cobbler's fault, since unless you're already a Mesoamerican history nerd who knows the best modern artists tackling the subject who allow their art in videos, or where to get scans of actual Aztec manuscripts (and Cobbler, if you want, I can hook you up with both!); then your only obvious royalty free image options are many century old paintings and sketches made by Medieval, Victorian, etc artists who had never seen anything related to Mesoamerica. But the bottom line is that actual Mesoamerican art, architectural, fashion, etc aesthetics, especially for the Aztec, is almost NOTHING like what those sorts of historical art or most pop culture depictions look like.
As an example, the painting at 0:32 depictions Aztec and other Mesoamerican people basically naked in loincloths and Tenochtitlan full of grey, drab buildings cramped together with European style architectural conventions. In reality, men would have worn cloaks/mantles a bit like Greco-roman togas, while women wore baggy blouses (actual accurate art of Aztec noblewomen with their distinctive hair buns and flowy huipil blouses i've seen people mistake for Japanese Geisha) with nobles having them in a variety of colors and with different geometric, floral, animal, and mythological designs and jade, gold, turquoise, and fine feather jewelry and ornaments All of the monumental large scale structures would have been covered in smooth gleaming white stucco, and then painted and accented with murals, reliefs, sculptural facedes, etc. The actual Aztec (and Teotihuacano, to a lesser extent Mixtec, etc) architectural style is, if anything, closer to Minoan palaces at places like Knossos more then anything else (just without multiple stacked floors/stories in most cases) with palaces having square geometric style rooms with flat roofs, and patios with columns surrounding open courtyards, geometric roof trim accents, etc.Tenochtitlan had most of it's temples, palaces, ball courts, etc arranged in a quasi grid layout spaced out around large open plazas (with many botanical gardens, aviaries, zoos, etc built in palace courtyards or around them) with the outskirts being grids of artificial islands housing both commoner homes and acting hydroponic farms with Venice like canals between them. If people want good visual examples of this all, i'd recommend the paintings of Aztec cityscapes by Scott and Stuart Gentling, depictions of Mesoamerican clothing by Kamazotz/Zotzcomic/Daniel Parada, Rafael Mena, OHS688 (some of his art is furry, but the fashion is all accurate), etc.
This ties into the third point I want to cover, which is that "Tribe", "Chief", etc really aren't the applicable terms here: Again, we're talking not about drab looking grey temples surrounded by a few huts or jungle, and people naked with feather headdresses, but rather stuff like Minoan Venice x the Hanging gardens of Babylon. These were city-states, kingdoms, and empires, and they had kings, senators (yes, a few Mesoamerican states were republics with senates!), etc, and that had been the case for a long time: Cities, writing etc going back 2500+ years before the Spanish arrived. There were dozens of major civilizations and hundreds of kingdoms and empires that rose and fell before the Aztec even became a thing. Now, again, the video here is talking about the 1517 and 1518 expeditions which included travel to areas in the Caribbean which did have less organized tribal societies (In fact, some of the Spanish accounts in those expeditions excitedly talk about how the natives on the mainland actually...wore clothes!) but most of the places that got mentioned were in Veracruz, Tabasco, the Yucatan, etc, which were inside Mesoamerica.
Next, to be clear, the "Axes" that got mentioned here wouldn't have been like actual full hatchets, but rather thin, axehead shaped objects variously made of copper or bronze (yes, Mesoamerica smelted bronze!) known as axe-monies which were used as a standard medium of exchange (not quite a formalized "currency", but close enough). There WERE actual functional metal axes/hatchets too, as well as adzes, but those would have actually had wooden handles/shafts, which the Axe-monies didn't, despite the visual mockups in the video show. (There's additional complications here in that a lot of photos online will show axe monies as if they were functional axeheads, and if metal axes were actually used in warfare as implied in some visual manuscripts or were purely used in domestic/labor contexts is a subject of debate)
Regarding animal domestication, there were other domesticated animals in the Americas beyond Alpaca/llamas, Guinea Pigs, and dogs (by the way, I highly suggest people look up the Mesoamerican dog ceramics from Colima): The Maya and I think some groups in West Mexico had domesticated bees used for honey production, and Turkeys were also domesticated in Mesoamerica, used for food. There were also tamed hares/rabbits and deer kept in nature preserves and parks, but they weren't fully domesticated. So the Mesoamericans definitely had access to meats and eggs, though eating meat wasn't as common as it was in Eurasia.
On the note of Deer, there's quite a few other reactions we have by Mesoamericans of Spanish things and vis versa. I'm already almost at TH-cam's character limit, so sadly I can't give an in depth list of descriptions like I did with Aztec stereotypes/descriptions of other local civilizations, but for example, the Mesoamericans talked about horses as being "large deer", and part of the reason they were so keen on getting Spanish beads is that blue-green stones like turquoise and jade were the most valuable material substances above gold and silver (and fine feathers, though some featherwork art pieces would have been more valuable then even jade/turquoise: Look up the mesoamerican made iridescent feather mosaic paintings produced for the Spanish in the early colonial period to get a sense of how Aztec warsuits, shields, feather blankets/tapestries, etc would have looked!), so blue or green glass beads were seen as similarly valuable. The Mesoamericans called large Spanish boats "floating houses", while you can read Spanish accounts describing rattlesnakes, quetzals, corn, vanilla, chocolate, etc for the first time in their own words.
Anyways, i'll probably shoot Dj Cobbler an email so if he does a follow up video as the ending implies he will, I can maybe send some resources for that!
thank you for your accont, will check the other comment!
Thank you for this write up!
While Spain and its conquests are the topic I’m also gonna plug Matthew Restall and Florine Asselbergs ‘Invading Guatemala’. It’s a compendium and commentary on Spanish, Mayan, and Nahua accounts of the extremely long conquest of Guatemala and the surrounding region, which wasn’t a simple 6 year long war as we might assume but an extremely long process and struggle that took over one-hundred years. Mayan kingdoms in the Peten Basin kicked around for a very long time, the final city being captured by Spain in 1697, several generations after the first Spanish conquests and landings. Genuinely a very good read that isn’t super dry or boring either.
I'm not reading all of that, and you're better off snortong adderal than wasting my time
not reading allat 💯
The editing on this is absolutely flawless, worth the 5 time redo I'd say
Banana rama
@@Msjetaway rambanahanaba
@@acidmonster banana rama?
@@Msjetaway Banana Rama 🤝
@@acidmonsterbanana rama❤
Tomatoes were originally served on pewter plates... and the acid dissolved some of the pewter chemicals which were then eaten. So it was literally poisonous. But nobody suspected it was the plates so they assumed all tomatoes were bad.
Theres a theory that this is why Denethor in Lord of the Rings went insane. because of the acidic interaction
@@housefullofransackery3505#WormtoungeDinduNuffin
@@housefullofransackery3505 That is stupid
It was lead that was released
@@crampusmaximus8849 Why? The term "mad hatter" literally exists because in the 1800s hatters would go insane from heavy metal poisoning as they worked with lead...
I like that oranges story. It shows a small period of peace, understanding, and legitimate sharing of new things amongst different peoples.
It help shows that not every interaction between different groups ends in violence or some scheme.
And probably why it stuck out in Diaz’s mind is a combination of that sense of peace and probably a bit of pride as well. That he introduced something that was liked and respected by the natives well enough for them to take care of them and likely spread them further.
OH BOY! I sure do love learning wacky facts about Spanish COLONIZATION!
Pov: you are a spanish soldier landing in south america (The dozens of death whistles are creating a cacophony resembling the souls of the damned)
I sure do love Spanish COLONIZATION
I agree that little anecdote about the orange trees was incredible. Here you have a man who went with the spearhead of the discovery of a new world and partook inthe destruction of it. Always knowing that defeat would mean beeing sacrificied by your enemies, in the most hostile land for an eurpoean at the time and yet what haunts him the most as he is writting his memory of the events is that some fucking scrawny ass, library worm nerds will go "actually this is not very relevant to the conquest of the new world☝️🤓".
That element is such a human aspect that I love, no matter the grandious events of old there is always an underlying current of humanity, being it wackiness, doubt, insecurity, agendas or the own life of the author bleeding into the pages. Is what makes history great you get to connect on a human level with the past.
The error was the enemies were left in some capacity around to continue to act like absolute stone age primitives to this very day.
As someone who studies history these are the moments that are sometimes the most internet in understanding the thought processes of people in the past
@@OrgusDinkys
@@OrgusDinyou're the Elephant's Foot of Hitler particles. The only way you can have a positive contribution to this planet is by removing yourself from it. Think on this.
@@izaya65 no u
Glad you’re shifting gears a bit from classical history onto other periods. The early conquest of the Americas and the first contact stories with the natives are some of my favorite historical topics to read about, and deserve plenty of attention.
Shoutout to all the channels out there making intelligently written, well articulated videos that nobody watches.
cobbler is very good, but a lot of people saying how incredible some videos are haven’t experienced life.
Sir , I for the last year was fascinated by precolumbian america nad it's history going from 1000 ad to 1900 ad , and seeing you bring that history in your format is a great joy for me , hats off to you and I will be waiting with the up most impataince for the next material . ( apologies for any grammar mistakes I have made ; I'm not a native speaker )
He was wrong on indigenous domestication some tribes still have alligators, birds and monkeys mainly in the Amazon
This man is the definition of intrusive thoughts winning, but somehow educating people while letting them take over.
We are all so ready to remember the conquest, plague and death of uncounted masses.
That this small, human moment of an old man recaling a time he planted some orange trees in a new land but to grow self concious and erase it hits a lil different.
I like this story too, even history's legends were some kind of people.
With emotions and memories. Maybe even dreams.
Not too far from our own.
Number 2 made me cry. That was beautiful, and the way you contextualized it made me feel so much
Im just glad that the Paella stayed in their little Paella world
MAN this series fucking rocks, what a rollercoaster!
I did think it was funny, in the last video he was talking about the Aztec death whistle and how thats a culture he'd like to know more about, and now we're going down the rabbit hole with him
Finally. Cobbler talks about my country's history. I've been waiting for this...
Banana rama
It’s 3 am for me and he’s still dropping history bangers love this guy
Loving the 4am uploads, this is the way.
Also I think you’d love TES 3 Morrowind. Sure it’s old but it’s not too hard and the atmosphere and design goes hard and really contains something that Skyrim and Oblivion lost when Todd watched Lord of the Rings. There is also an ungodly amount of room for your story telling style to build off of narratives in there.
sure but the combat is UNHOLY. Really shit. but messing around with alteration magic is pretty fun
@@mattie286he tends to focus on environments, especially in TES like games.
@@mattie286banana rama
@@MLJFireDragon747banana rama
I kinda wanna make him play Xenoblade. It is really good after all. And the existential crisis of him possibly liking an anime game would be hilarious to watch.
Holy moly that outro shot a blast of nostalgia through my brain
Name? I cannot remember it
Hay varias historias que son interesantes y fascinantes. Una de mis favoritas es la de la republica de Honduras, en el proceso de formación de una identidad nacional, símbolos nacionales y "mitos" de su origen describen un "cacique" indígena llamado "Lempira".
"Lempira" era líder de la tribu "Lenca", descrito como bravo, obstinado, con destacable sentido de liderazgo y astucia. La presencia de los españoles unió a los nativos en una alianza con Lempira como su líder. La historia que Antonio de Herrera y Tordesillas cuenta es una historia donde Lempira es traicionado en un acuerdo de paz con los españoles, un soldado español estaba oculto en un arbusto y con un "arcabuz"(Arquebus) disparo a Lempira matándolo al instante. Esta historia fue literalmente tomada por los fundadores de la nación, Lempira se convirtió en un "Héroe nacional", símbolo de rebeldía contra España, la moneda local de la nación es el "Lempira", uno de sus billetes porta el rostro de Lempira, una provincia de la nación es llamada Lempira.
Sin embargo, muchos años después (O mejor dicho recientemente) en México se descubren las escrituras de Rodrigo Ruíz, militar Español que participo en la conquista de Honduras. En ella Rodrigo Ruíz describe como combatió a Lempira y lo mato en combate, no hay mención de acuerdos de paz, ni de traición, ni de haber usado un arcabuz para matar a Lempira no solo eso sino que también se descubre que "Lempira" es un titulo no un nombre "El señor de la sierra" lo que significa que cualquier líder Lenca se puede llamar Lempira.
And a Mayonnaise sinking to you too, friend!
@@tankeruber1337 Lmao, i'm from Spain and a filthy european btw,
Me voy a mudar a la sierra. Me llamaran Lempira o no abrire la puerta.
@@tankeruber1337what means en Spanish
@@AC-hj9tv he just said "good video" i think
Gonna be honest my man. I watched almost every video you made in one go.
Your videos are art.
They offer information in a brutally humorous style I used to love from backseat "historians" with wonderful production quality and you are entertaining in a genuine way that is lost in nearly all modern artistic endeavors.
Thank you for your channel my man.
Man this video definitely started something
I love this channel, im so excited for my new hit of wifi straight into the vein as i go insane listening about how games failed or suceeded, rome, and general finances.
“Why do you Spaniards like gold so much?”
“I dunno why do you aztecs like glass beads?”
“Touché”
“Where’d you learn that french?”
“What’s french?”
Drip was eternal gold was temporary to us natives
15:52 bro the quote of the century
Oh you know I'm in for a treat if cobbler is covering my country's history
Banana rama 12:55
There was something very beautiful about the orange tree story. It's those little moments, man.
Also, that exit song activated memories I had forgotten were there
For those who in need I FOUND THE OUTRO MUSIC!!!!!
OUTRO MUSIC IS:
EYEWITNESS | Intro Opening Theme
Quick question, what was your major, if you had one? Because you've taught me more about history than the Texas A&M History Department has in the past four years.
Major Pain in My Ass
Then you fucking drank for four years if what, like 8 hrs of content, out did all of your learning?
Don't want to be over dramatic about it but thanks for the video man; I really needed this this morning.
Big fan.
"There used to be horses in the Americas during the ice age but unfortunately they were delicious."
😂
Eurasian steppes also had delicious horses. There were just way too many of them to be eaten into extinction by humans.
Been watching for about a year and a half and it's become a ritual that I watch the cobbler more than any other TH-camr, bro you deserve so much more recognition for your work it's amazing
Fun fact about Roman garum, it was a kind of precursor of and probably was very similar to Worcestershire sauce
That story of Diaz planting the orange trees really got me good, I don't know why, but it did.
I wish we could go back in time and tell Bernal Diaz how much we like his orange story 😢
Cobbler has an innate ability to take something I never thought I’d really care to look into and make it fascinating. Truly a master of his craft.
Thank you for posting a new video, I can’t get off to the old ones like I used to. Overtime the same recordings of a voice lose their luster after so much… use.
As always, the ending of these videos envoke a subtle sense of dread and ponder.
Never change Cobbler
Tq for sharing the story of the Oranges.
A really good reminder, these people in history were people.
Easy to forget that sometimes.
8:45 reminds me of when here in Australia we turned a Rottnest island internment camp, in which many people were tortured and killed, into a cheap motel where tourists can sleep in the former cells in which many experienced their last moments on Earth!
thank you for adding a place to visit to my bucket list
Definitely did not expect to hear the eye witness intro at the end there. Excellent work, herr cobbler
Ahhh sweet memories from my childhood
Damn, that's fascinating. Cobbler is officially my favorite history TH-camr and that feels kinda weird to say.
I watched this earlier via phone with my limited data plan so I had to lower the quality to 144p. I just noticed the thumbnail that you used depicts the Battle of Mactan in the Philippines.
Love the style you are going for. Making a crt tv inside a hi def 3d model is so dumb and yet so brilliant. beautifully rendered border connected to a bitscape version of a classical painting with the classic cobbler face in...that blew me away! Love everything that you do!
Cobbler, every video I flip flop between pure joy and morbid intrigue.
And then without fail hits a unusually genuine moment, like the reflection on Diaz writing about oranges. That was my favourite part of the video. Thanks DJPC
I love Spanish colonization. Easily in my top 5 colonizations of all time. They really set the bar.
well sadly nobody follows that bar :/ (tougth the french where decent in America)
Great pacing and choice of topics
Kinda funny that the thumbnail pic does not depict an event in the Americas but in south east asia, The Philippines. Specifically when Magellan was killed by a warrior from Mactan. Another lesser known fact I guess.
That Eyewitness title sequence took me back to being 7 years old watching a VHS at primary school during a science “lesson”
I've been one of your subscribers for a while and I just wanted to let you know that your videos are a pleasure to watch.
An excellent entry.
Theres something very relaxing about the seperate episodic tales.
Ahhh my favorite history channel ❤
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@@Msjetaway orange-o-rama
@@callmeishmael5742 BANANA RAMA!
This is a great channel and I am happy to watch it, wherever it may go. This donation was not, I repeat, not done because the plush I orders is presenting me with mutilated animals and will not stop unless I donate.
Just want you to know - I subscribed when I discovered you're military (via "DD214" name drop in older video). As a Vet myself, I'm happy to support a brother. I love your videos and the historical direction they've taken, so please keep up the great work!
What branch, if I may be so bold? I'd say, you're too smart to be Army, and you're nose isn't brown enough to be Air Force. However, I can see you being "pissed off" enough to be Marines (Ooh Rah), but you made whole videos about Romans and... Greeks. Go Navy!
(Unless of course you were Coast Guard... I wouldn't know how to feel if you were Coast Guard.)
Jokes aside, your efforts are appreciated, and I wish you the best. If you're ever in Tennessee, I'd be happy to buy you a drink.
As an air force vet I take personally lol
IIRC, he said he had a desk job in the Air Force at some point in the past.
Yeah he was Air Force my guy
I really loved this video. It clearly took a lot of work, and I really enjoy the way you handled cobbler's presentation: The chair, The globe and The stories. Clearly a deliberate way of representing the very situation of Cortez: He was a man, who traveled the globe and had something to tell. I really like when you take time to add these little things that enhance the way we interact with your narration. And as to Cortez' stories, is great to know that someone like him wrote. More of us should, it might not be as flashy and rethoric as the "Scholars" but it is what you know. That's honesty.
I was expecting the story from your thumbnail, Lapu Lapu killing Magellan.
But those were damn good stories anyway…hehe, axes 🪓 😆
Can you imagine being a historian in 2300 and you cite DJ Peach Cobbler as your source?
Yes, bring me all the historical takes. The finest of unhinged ramblings and ultra coherent informative deep dives. This is the future I was promised, and demand.
The way you respect history is something I love.
Cobbler, do one on King Leopold II/Congo next PLEASE! Great video btw.
Cobbler has clearly cracked, thinking there is any value in history between the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the release of Doom 2016.
Banana rama 4:02
The Orange story is absolutely adorable. I kinda want to get his book now.
As a proud Colombian this is a Classic.
Banana rama 2:23
13:01 I find it very sweet that even if he was still somewhat joking, that somebody out there truly appreciated the orange story that señor Diaz thought would have been stupid and unimportant
The siege of tenochtitlan has a funny trebuchet and cavalry charge on flagstones stories which as far as I am aware are largely based in fact. This account from Bernal seems fun to read. I will see if I can find a copy of the original online.
I've heard the Siege of Tenochtitlan being called the pre-modern Stalingrad.
@@concept5631 I heard of trebuchets firing onto themselves and cavalry charges running off hills
@@guillemsaldo Just like Stalingrad /j
@@concept5631 I have heard of crossbows being used as they pierced sand bags in Stalingrad. And modern tests prove that arrows indeed pierce sandbags where bullets don't. So I would not be too surprized to hear there were T-34s in Technotitlan or obsidian weapons in Stalingrad but history once again failed to record it. /j
@@guillemsaldo Arrows fired at bows are actually pretty effective in penetrating kevlar.
The ending song is just chefs kiss honestly plz don't ever stop
Mmmmmmm.... Small correction. Silk isn't worm barf... I'm fairly sure it comes from their sexual organs which means... Yes it's worse than worm barf.
Ahh, that outro music transported me to my childhood, loved watching those DVDs
I thought the 3 gs were god,gold, and glory?
You are right: the "guns" part makes no sense until the later half of the 17th century.
Still, it's not that wrong either, since the key part of the "glory" revolves more around shipping than national prestige, and it was cannons that enabled both reliable expansion, and defense.
@@bubbasbigblast8563 oh ok thanks
Personally, i love those mid 90s, multimedia era graphics. Nostalgia.
I like how cortez was self aware of his greed. Unlike the anglos, the Spanish never hide their vices in that era.
Also because the Spanish were never a unitary entity. You would have people like Hernan Cortez or Pizarro or Diego de Almagro who were conquistadores, who had not much to do with the spanish crown. And in the case of Pizarro, he fought Diego de Almagro and his lands and people, to then throwing hands with the Spanish crown who intervened and its even why the Spanish managed to take control over the Incan territories. The crown itself was very pro-indigenous going as far back as Isabella la Catolica making decrees and stating how she wanted to protect the natives from abuses. That’s why laws like Las leyes de burgos or las leyes nuevas de 1542 came to fruition. But then there were viceroys like Viceroy Toledo who forced historians and chronists to write excuses as to why the spanish should be taking direct control of the Incan lands. Then after he was gone the chronists who would arrive after would write all sorts of slanders and criticisms of Toledo’s approach and friars would often be the ones who advocated for the wellbeing of the natives. And yet Even within the friars, there was no unity, people like francisco de Vitoria would be openly critical of other friars like Bartolome de Las Casas who did frankly wrote a lot of baloney and deserved the criticism. The whole thing with regards to the Spanish in the americas given how many different factions there were could totally work as multiple game of thrones type series honestly.
You are amazingly wise. I really enjoy your content. I love your interpretations of everything.
The human sacrifices will stop
Excellent video Señor Cobbler. Also, 13:14 Santiago de Cuba mentioned!!!
That eyewitness theme :) nostalgic.
anyway, please do the story justice, because most people get this shit really wrong. It seems people don't even really understand what the aztec empire even was - much less the existing geopolitical situation surrounding them that the spanish were able to exploit. people just see victim "tribes" that joined cortes because they were so afraid of aztec sacrifices or whatever, which is so far from the truth.
There were no tribes anywhere near the aztecs, only rival or subject states and empires. The Tlaxcalans being the big important ones during the conquest, who had already fought multiple major defensive wars against the aztecs (wars meant to conquer, not flower wars). They did not join the spanish because of aztec sacrifice - they, along with practically everyone in mesoamerica, sacrificed as well - if you believe what the natives said about the flower wars in the spanish accounts, they agreed to the flower wars specifically for this purpose. They did not really "join" the spanish at all - it would be more accurate to say the spanish joined their long lasting war against the aztecs. They had judged the spanish worthy after fighting them (diaz' account here is pretty interesting because he portrays it as if the tlaxcalans could have easily killed all the spanish - he attributes them sparing the conquistadors to divine intervention). And from there, many of the tributary states (tributary only in resources, not in sacrifices - the aztec empire was fairly hands-off as an empire, it basically just demanded tribute and military support from a bunch of smaller city states) joined against the aztecs seeing which direction the wind was blowing, eventually even including Texcoco, one of the three in the triple alliance that was the aztec empire.
The other part that bothers me so much is that the tlaxcalans didnt just give themselves up to the spanish - they saw the spanish as independent allies and gave them tenochtitlan and were treated as such by the spanish as well for a long time, before they were eventually absorbed after their population was essentially gone from disease.
The whole story is one big tragedy - but honestly, not as tragic as the conquest of the andes.
So basically it started out how most normal diplomatic wars start out. Rival kingdoms find Allie’s who help them and they become the new power as a result.
The only real difference is the disease getting involved.
That actually leads me to wonder what it would be like if disease hadn’t played a role, because I think a timeline were outside of a few ports and some territorial conquests the Europeans and natives essentially saw and treated each other as trade partners, Allie’s, and rivals on a scale similar to how Europe treated fellow kingsdom and empires like the ottomans would be fascinating
That's why gringos don't know about what happened in the Andes and Araucanía , they don't give a crap and only know about aztecs to glorify colonizers
Love the channel, great work, keep at it. The 8 bit sound effects in this video make just listening to it very jarring.
The Spaniards were so comically greedy it’s hilarious. I know a story where they searched for gold and found platinum, and they threw tonnes of it into the sea because it wasn’t gold.
Well, platinum didn't have many uses back then. It's basically silver, but with less luster
@@Hypogean7 true but the story is still funny.
Cortés was he tried to scam the others, when it was time to share the gold among his men he gave them shit, so lttle in fact a lot of them rejected it so they could get a better payment latter.
I was just watching your video on the tragedy of dark souls bosses, and this pops up in my recommendation, gotta say, you got a wide range of topics
7:44 Honestly, while I know Diaz is biased, let’s be honest there isn’t one man on this earth who isn’t. But there’s something about him that makes me trust him. His entire goal in writing the book was to correct contemporary histories coming out, as you said he even had doubts about his abilities which made him consider not finishing it. But he still finished it for the sake of telling the truth.
So, even if there may be things that he exaggerated or misunderstood, at a baseline, I still trust him.
Sometimes you got to appreciate the account from an old grunt, since it does give you a more grounded (or as grounded a few centuries old account can be) view of historical accounts. Like Xenophon's "Anabasis" (though he was more of a commander than grunt, but hey)
I wish colonies of the spanish empire would be refered to as provinces somewhere on the internet, like they were actually treated and refered of as in the real thing
But they weren't treated like provinces? Maybe Gran Colombia would be an exception. But these "provinces" were mostly overseas holdings, not governed directly, and only held so that Castille could exploit their resources to enrich themselves. That's a colony.
@@InnerDness Not really they were heavely taxed but so was Castille, the money mainly went to finance the empire's wars in Europe.
@@InnerDness no, thats just the copypasted explaination that applies only to the british empire. In the spanish empire far more infrastructure was created, to the point were these "colonies" have many cities and buildings considered world heritage, were in north ameica it was the wild west bevause it was only random underdeveloped towns everywere. Plus every person even natives was considered a citizen just the same as someone in the mainland, to the point were many went to spain to get education. Tell me what north american native went to the UK to study at a prestigious university
@@aguspuig6615 the answer is that north american natives didnt have to go to europe to study because european universities and whatnot went to the US instead. the US became an extension of European and particularly UK cultural practices and norms. if you're apache descendant and you want an advanced education, you'll go to one of the hundreds of american universiities and colleges.
meanwhile, a brazilian or argentinian will have to go to portugal or spain or start learning english.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516you are half correct, Portugal did keep the universities in Europe, but Spain had built several universities across the viceroyalties, if you search in google “Universidades de Hispanoamerica” you will get even a map of them, though some of them were later closed with the expulsion of the jesuits.
Wow im ducking speechless. One of your best vids yet.
Just saying if the Spanish hadn’t colonized the new world the Aztecs would still be carving peoples hearts out..
Progress Is something that exists.
Besides, that sounds metal asf
Imagine the aztecs carving someone's heart with a tiny chainsaw
There i go learning of Diez just a week ago and you done made a video about him. Thank you, imaginary dessert based voice
Are you planning on only doing videos about the Spanish Conquest regarding Bernal Diaz book? because I think your history videos are great and hilarious, and I think it would be a shame to stick only to the Aztec part of the Spanish Conquest, specially having into account that this could be useful to teach people that usually wouldn't be bothered to look this up. I'm a Hispanic viewer myself and I think that would be great
I really love this style of video
Obligatory as a Filipino post, thank you for putting us in thumbnail
Banana rama 5:15
Love ur content! Keep up
The good work Mr. Cobbler.