A GTA or Iroc would be perfect! You called it haha. They are tough to find in good shape and be affordable. The market on those went way up the last few years.
As usual brother, you're on top of you game!! Now I can't say I was a formula fan, but I love how you dived into the issues that the unit had. You really made it interesting. As always, blessings. Can't wait to see what's next!
I will someday own a 1987 Trans Am 5.0L TPI 5 speed t-top car. Last year of the bird on the hood, first year of the TPI + manual gearbox. Thanks for the content on this car. At the end of the day you're right, an automatic TPI car that isn't the 5.7 isn't one to keep but would still make many very happy to own. Hope to see some more of these on your channel, subbed.
Thanks for checking the videos out in the series. It was a neat car that was very clean. Like you said, at the end of the day it's just not a keeper. Maybe it'll be worth more in 20 years. Good luck on your hunt. That's a good combo to be looking for.
Hate to see it go especially after that wash but you made the right choice. Looking forward to the ceramic video. Next car, maybe a 4th gen Formula if you can find it?
It sure cleaned up nice haha. I actually had second thoughts when I was filming it after the bath. Thing shined right up after all the work. Ceramic coating soon. Been vette shopping actually. Shh..... lol
Nice Tutorial buddy.. I just purchased a 97 firebird loaded with grey pewter interior. I bought this car just for the interior swap to my project 94 Trans am. The firebird I bought is a California car with 16000. Miles and a female owned it. It's a v6 3.8 liter. I'm going to use the ttops out of it for my 94 trans am. I'm debating if I'm going to keep it for a daily driver or sell it after I swap interior and dash board... Have a safe 4th of July my friend...👍🤙....
You probably already know this but it would be wise to measure the pinion angle of the rear end with the factory torque arm installed before you install the adjustable TA. Pinion angle can be a real pain to dial-in. Good luck!
Hi, I'm a 3rd Gen F-Body fan! My first car was an '84 Z-28 Camaro when I turn 17 and I loved it! But being a full time HS senior and working part time back in 1990 I had to trade it in for a more economical car...I know I should've stored it somewhere but I really need the money to put toward college. Now I'm a ripe old age of 47 and I have the money to do a project like you do. Can you point me in the right direction on where I can look to find 3rd Gen F-Body? Camaro or Firebird? I enjoy your TH-cam videos, Thank you.
Facebook marketplace is the best place to find a third gen nowadays. Craigslist used to be pretty good but that's all but dead now. Best of luck on your hunt!
Thanks bud. Hard to sell it so quick as I really do like thirdgens. Have a big soft spot for them. Doesnt suck getting your money back and then some though
a guy in my area buys and flips f-bodys. I think he started doing for parts, but I think he has 8-12 f-bodies on any given day. for a build I kinda wanna do an lf3 swap or lfx swap but they cost way more than an ls and make less power.
Actually, the new owners (in my opinion) are getting a "deal" at $3,500. Now they can put the tires of their choice, and some sweat equity father / son quality time into the front nose and its a win / win. Beautiful car in amazing condition. (not big on the Red frankly BUT, T tops!)
Good video, and keep em coming Thanks! I loved my 30th anniversary 97 Lt1 6 speed Z28, but I think a cool Lt1 Ws6 project car would look awesome next to the Ls1 pewter Ws6.
I wish I did! That car probably was the first hard top Z28 that year, vin was 00012 and was driven by a GM executive. Regret selling it, but I always wanted and finally got my 02 black Ws6 6 speed. I’ll look forward to seeing your next project. Thanks again!
Yes, I probably would have still sold it. Automatics just aren't as fun to drive when they don't make a bunch of power lol. If it was a 5spd car I would have been more inclined to keep it.
This one was cheap, and nice. They arent all this killer of a deal but they are 100% still out there and affordable. What's your point? You can flip one too if you'd just try and not naysay lol. I did it all right there on camera for you. No tricks. You are telling me I didnt do it? Haha *edit* I bought another one like a year later haha 😆😆
I just got a 1995 Trans am LT1 6 speed. It's been parked about 12 years. A rat chewed up alot of the wiring in the engine bay. Do you know who I could contact to get replacement wiring?
Nice work the car came out beautiful. I still find it impossible to believe you only paid two grand for that car when you acquired it. I bought an 89 formula with 45000 original miles and I paid almost 10 grand for it. These 3rd gen's have become collectibles, they are antiques now and becoming very hard to find one that would have low mileage and are in excellent condition regardless of whether it has a 350 or 305 a TPI or a TBI. I was really never a fan of the cars that they started putting airbags in and I'm really not a fan of the fourth Generations, not because they're not great performance-wise because they are, it's because they designed those vehicles to appeal to women, basically feminized them because they realized that the market share was greater coming from the female populace. (I know because I worked for General Motors at the time) third Generations were much more masculine although at the time they really weren't offering powerful power plants other than the 87 GTA with the 5.7 with 245 horsepower which is plenty for the street. Anyway if you get another vehicle like that for two grand you don't have to do a thing do it you can flip it to me and I'll give you a grand on top of it Without You lifting a finger.
Wow wow wow. Ok, $1700 purchase, $2K invested, and sold for $3500. I’m did stay at a holiday in express last night and still can’t figure out the profit margin math here. lol.
If I ever found a third gen in that condition for 3500 bucks, my pants would catch on fire from me whipping my wallet out so fast. I honestly don't know how you find these screaming deals.
He sold this car cause to have. T tops from 90-92 it had to be a 305 and most all were automatics… if this car was a 5 speed the 305 would be worth it cause the engine is 10 hp less than a 350.. cause it had the 350cam (5 speed cars only) now with it having t tops it might have been a auto only gig and couldn’t get g92- performance axel and n10 dual cats with it..these cars had so many tricky can do’s and can’t do packages … almost All t top cars are crappy geared .. the hard tops usually are the performance ones with better gearing and g92..
@@Greenlightfilming I’m thinking about buying one because my mom had one back in the day. The one I’m looking at is on Street side Classics website. It’s a 1991 Pontiac Firebird GTA. He wants 21K. Do you think it’s worth it? I’ve seen some floating around around 12k
Impossible here to find a ‘91 Formula. Any Bird with a stick. I had an 02 TA black on black. Found an 02 ‘Hawk black on black with a stick. My wife gave me the green light but I said nahhh. Idiot. Gone through 3 Birds, two Camaros. Closing shop now with a forced air Challenger. With a stick. I would buy a 91 TPI Bird with a stick
It does seem to be a tall order to get a 5.0 TPI Formula with at T-5. I don't know why, but I presume it's because Pontiac was more of a "luxury" F-Body compared to the Camaro of the day. If I had to guess there might have been more Pontiacs ordered with automatics than Chevrolets. Idk for sure though.
Congrats to Christon on winning the scan tool! This is the last upload of the third gen. Should I find another to flip?
Have a safe happy 4th of July my friend.. keep on rockin in a free world....👍🤙
Loved what you did with the Formula dude! I would love to see another 3rd gen GTA or Iroc!
A GTA or Iroc would be perfect! You called it haha. They are tough to find in good shape and be affordable. The market on those went way up the last few years.
you should look into picking up a 6 speed LT car man it would be bad ass to see a LT and LS 4th gen in that garage
That would be awesome. Not to mention it would help me a lot to follow along when he works on it
That's a good idea! I could definitely see a 6spd Z28/SS next to it. I'll keep my eye out for something like that.
As usual brother, you're on top of you game!! Now I can't say I was a formula fan, but I love how you dived into the issues that the unit had. You really made it interesting. As always, blessings. Can't wait to see what's next!
Always found that working smarter, not harder can make any project pretty easy. Glad it was entertaining!
Very happy with your videos man. Huge thumbs up that you’re not just focusing on what’s under the hood. Love T-Top repairs.
Thanks bud, welcome to the channel btw. I saw you commented a few times here now. Gotta make the car nice as a "total package" IMO.
I will someday own a 1987 Trans Am 5.0L TPI 5 speed t-top car. Last year of the bird on the hood, first year of the TPI + manual gearbox. Thanks for the content on this car. At the end of the day you're right, an automatic TPI car that isn't the 5.7 isn't one to keep but would still make many very happy to own. Hope to see some more of these on your channel, subbed.
Thanks for checking the videos out in the series. It was a neat car that was very clean. Like you said, at the end of the day it's just not a keeper. Maybe it'll be worth more in 20 years.
Good luck on your hunt. That's a good combo to be looking for.
I have a 91 gta thats been stored in the garage for about 20 years. Ive been having fun learning engine repair with it
Hate to see it go especially after that wash but you made the right choice. Looking forward to the ceramic video. Next car, maybe a 4th gen Formula if you can find it?
It sure cleaned up nice haha. I actually had second thoughts when I was filming it after the bath. Thing shined right up after all the work.
Ceramic coating soon. Been vette shopping actually. Shh..... lol
Nice Tutorial buddy.. I just purchased a 97 firebird loaded with grey pewter interior. I bought this car just for the interior swap to my project 94 Trans am. The firebird I bought is a California car with 16000. Miles and a female owned it. It's a v6 3.8 liter. I'm going to use the ttops out of it for my 94 trans am. I'm debating if I'm going to keep it for a daily driver or sell it after I swap interior and dash board... Have a safe 4th of July my friend...👍🤙....
Sounds like you made a nice find with your new car! Best if luck either way you go on it. These cars are fun to work on. Best of luck and happy 4th.
@@Greenlightfilming thanks my friend hope you had a safe 4th of July 🇺🇲
You probably already know this but it would be wise to measure the pinion angle of the rear end with the factory torque arm installed before you install the adjustable TA. Pinion angle can be a real pain to dial-in. Good luck!
Good call. I'll definitely measure it before I swap it. Itll be a dedicated video. Hoping for a good product for you guys when I'm done.
It was a beautiful car , was hoping you were gonna build it, a pair of heads, cam and exhaust with a t56 swap and she would be a blast.
I know! I would have loved to keep it too. It was leading towards my purchase of the C6Z. I'll get another Third Gen someday here. I love the cars.
Hi, I'm a 3rd Gen F-Body fan! My first car was an '84 Z-28 Camaro when I turn 17 and I loved it! But being a full time HS senior and working part time back in 1990 I had to trade it in for a more economical car...I know I should've stored it somewhere but I really need the money to put toward college. Now I'm a ripe old age of 47 and I have the money to do a project like you do. Can you point me in the right direction on where I can look to find 3rd Gen F-Body? Camaro or Firebird? I enjoy your TH-cam videos, Thank you.
Facebook marketplace is the best place to find a third gen nowadays. Craigslist used to be pretty good but that's all but dead now. Best of luck on your hunt!
Well done on the flip. Satisfied some 3rd gen urges, cleaned it up and made some cash. 👍🏻
Thanks bud. Hard to sell it so quick as I really do like thirdgens. Have a big soft spot for them. Doesnt suck getting your money back and then some though
Good work man! I'd definitely be keen to see more 3rd gen projects, GTA would be nice!
Lucky for you, I just picked up a 1986 Iroc-Z! th-cam.com/video/4IUUQwKvJeY/w-d-xo.html
Nice work, you really know your stuff. Keep up the good work.
Thanks bud, appreciate it! Trying to bring more content with each upload instead of 100 pointless videos lol
great video's on the 1991 Firebird. Just bought one, same color but a 5 speed TPI stock. This will help!
Sweet! Lucky you found a 5 speed! If this car was a stick car, I probably would have kept it.
a guy in my area buys and flips f-bodys. I think he started doing for parts, but I think he has 8-12 f-bodies on any given day.
for a build I kinda wanna do an lf3 swap or lfx swap but they cost way more than an ls and make less power.
I could see becoming that guy one day haha
@@Greenlightfilming he must do well. He started with a 2 stall garage. Now he has a 6 stall, tall ceilings.
Please do more third gen. Thanks
There's a whole new series on an Iroc-Z here! th-cam.com/play/PLhZHM8Pmq_9Z_GpT4f6O2zaR0qRv3Wb2k.html
Keep the vids coming! Love the trim tip!
That SEM black is a KILLER finish in a can for these cars. You can do wiper arms, hatch trim, T-tops etc. It's a perfect finish.
Great job on flipping the Formula. I agree with Strike95. Find a IROC to flip.
Thanks man. I knew it wouldn't be a popular choice to sell it, but it made financial sense.
I'm sad now I was loving the videos on this car. Good sale tho nice channel f body brother
Thanks man, ideally I'll find another. It made sense financially to sell it. Fun cars to work on!
This was great! I just picked up an 89 firebird formula yesterday
Actually, the new owners (in my opinion) are getting a "deal" at $3,500. Now they can put the tires of their choice, and some sweat equity father / son quality time into the front nose and its a win / win. Beautiful car in amazing condition. (not big on the Red frankly BUT, T tops!)
This car looks to be in good shape 1700 did it have 230,000 miles?
Good video, and keep em coming Thanks! I loved my 30th anniversary 97 Lt1 6 speed Z28, but I think a cool Lt1 Ws6 project car would look awesome next to the Ls1 pewter Ws6.
Thanks man, appreciate the feedback. Still have the Z28?
I've got something special in the chamber to part next to the WS6. Stay tuned...... lol
I wish I did! That car probably was the first hard top Z28 that year, vin was 00012 and was driven by a GM executive. Regret selling it, but I always wanted and finally got my 02 black Ws6 6 speed. I’ll look forward to seeing your next project. Thanks again!
I have a 86 Pontiac TA WS6 Red silver trim. A nice car for resto. Also have 86 IROC and a 92 RS v6.
That's the color ls1 Trans Am I would buy or paint silver also. NICE
You mean the pewter car?
@@Greenlightfilming Now that you said it that way. Nope mine would be silver. I had some nice 3rd gens I'll show you some time.
About to buy almost the same car as my first project car. Looking forward to it
They are great cars!
Had a 92 z28 25th anniversary in high school 10 years ago, gonna have to be my next car after the trans am is done lol
That's a solid car to look for! Love a 91/92 Z28. Good luck on your search!
ProjectFarm is the best, real thorough and unbiased.
Yep, I agree. Found myself mentioning his channel quite a few times lately haha. It's the best
How could i purchase a vehicle from you I love the 3rd gens
Great video! Had this been a 5.7L 350 engine, would you still have sold it?
Yes, I probably would have still sold it. Automatics just aren't as fun to drive when they don't make a bunch of power lol. If it was a 5spd car I would have been more inclined to keep it.
@@Greenlightfilming if you got that same car but 5 speed, they sometimes came with a performance package that made them quite a bit more fast.
If the car was a 5 speed it would have been a LOT more appealing lol. I pretty much bought the car as a flipper.
@@Greenlightfilming great choice for one since people don't want too much for the automatics yet they still will sell if you clean them up.
For what it is worth I like the 3rd Gen Firebirds so I wouldn't mind seeing another one.
Love how you made it sound like they are still so plentiful and cheap enough that you could easily just go right out and get another one to flip.
This one was cheap, and nice. They arent all this killer of a deal but they are 100% still out there and affordable. What's your point? You can flip one too if you'd just try and not naysay lol.
I did it all right there on camera for you. No tricks. You are telling me I didnt do it? Haha
*edit*
I bought another one like a year later haha 😆😆
I just got a 1995 Trans am LT1 6 speed. It's been parked about 12 years. A rat chewed up alot of the wiring in the engine bay. Do you know who I could contact to get replacement wiring?
Ouch, that sucks. You might have the best luck finding a parts car on craigslist/FB Marketplace or a junkyard. Also check out hawks third gen online.
I almost want to send you one of my third gen Camaro’s to make vids of.
Haha I'm listening!!.....
The tv cable is easy to adjust
👍👍👍👍
Looks like the filter hasn't been changed in a while!
No it had not!
Great music btw
Any idea on what band it is?
Would you another t top ws6 1991 model . Been modified make a great race car.
I would do another one for sure. They are a great value these days if you find a deal on one.
Nice work the car came out beautiful. I still find it impossible to believe you only paid two grand for that car when you acquired it. I bought an 89 formula with 45000 original miles and I paid almost 10 grand for it. These 3rd gen's have become collectibles, they are antiques now and becoming very hard to find one that would have low mileage and are in excellent condition regardless of whether it has a 350 or 305 a TPI or a TBI. I was really never a fan of the cars that they started putting airbags in and I'm really not a fan of the fourth Generations, not because they're not great performance-wise because they are, it's because they designed those vehicles to appeal to women, basically feminized them because they realized that the market share was greater coming from the female populace. (I know because I worked for General Motors at the time) third Generations were much more masculine although at the time they really weren't offering powerful power plants other than the 87 GTA with the 5.7 with 245 horsepower which is plenty for the street. Anyway if you get another vehicle like that for two grand you don't have to do a thing do it you can flip it to me and I'll give you a grand on top of it Without You lifting a finger.
LT 4th gen camaro
I can get behind this. They are pretty affordable nowadays
Wow wow wow. Ok, $1700 purchase, $2K invested, and sold for $3500. I’m did stay at a holiday in express last night and still can’t figure out the profit margin math here. lol.
$1700 purchase + $300 in repairs = $2000.... sold for $3500.... math.
I probably didnt explain it clearly enough lol. This is all just rambling. Theres no script or anything.
Lol....i had to think for a min too Lucky Goose.
Lol sorry guys!! I ran over it too quick. Could have rephrased it.
When I'm talking it all just comes out. No real plan...
Snag a 4th gen SS Camaro
If i find a deal on one I would scoop it up for sure.
If I ever found a third gen in that condition for 3500 bucks, my pants would catch on fire from me whipping my wallet out so fast. I honestly don't know how you find these screaming deals.
It's a lot of looking, a lot of wasted time, and a lot of luck. Probably looked at 500 cars online and a couple in person before buying that Firebird.
He sold this car cause to have. T tops from 90-92 it had to be a 305 and most all were automatics… if this car was a 5 speed the 305 would be worth it cause the engine is 10 hp less than a 350.. cause it had the 350cam (5 speed cars only) now with it having t tops it might have been a auto only gig and couldn’t get g92- performance axel and n10 dual cats with it..these cars had so many tricky can do’s and can’t do packages … almost All t top cars are crappy geared .. the hard tops usually are the performance ones with better gearing and g92..
I would have kept the third gen and dumped the fourth gen.
Should have kept it and made a Firehawk clone with a LS swap :(
Sorry! I am working on the Iroc-Z now. That will probably be an LS swap candidate.
Why are people selling them for over 20K?
Crack is an epidemic in the thirdgen community.
Unless it's a real R7U or 1LE car. Then I get it lol.
@@Greenlightfilming I’m thinking about buying one because my mom had one back in the day. The one I’m looking at is on Street side Classics website. It’s a 1991 Pontiac Firebird GTA. He wants 21K. Do you think it’s worth it? I’ve seen some floating around around 12k
Impossible here to find a ‘91 Formula. Any Bird with a stick. I had an 02 TA black on black. Found an 02 ‘Hawk black on black with a stick. My wife gave me the green light but I said nahhh. Idiot. Gone through 3 Birds, two Camaros. Closing shop now with a forced air Challenger. With a stick. I would buy a 91 TPI Bird with a stick
It does seem to be a tall order to get a 5.0 TPI Formula with at T-5. I don't know why, but I presume it's because Pontiac was more of a "luxury" F-Body compared to the Camaro of the day. If I had to guess there might have been more Pontiacs ordered with automatics than Chevrolets. Idk for sure though.
Funny enough, the guy you sold this to last year will probably make more money than you did if he sold it now.
Hope so. Win win for everyone
These cars are NOT cheap anymore