The driver on the engine In the Great train Robbery in 1963 was Jack Mills, . I fired for Jack Mills in the 1950s at Crewe sheds. He had his regular fireman , but he was sick or on holiday , I did only fire for him a couple of trips, I got on with him alright.,I left the railway in 1954, and I never saw Jack again, very sad after all his hard work in his experience on steam to be treated terrible and never recovered to work again. It could have been my father in the 49 years my father was at Crewe sheds, fireman and eventually the driver. It was unusual for this type of offences on the steam engines, but life has changed so much since the 1950s.
I was involved in the Great Train Robbery indirectly. I was only three years old but the tomato sauce bottle in our house had my prints all over it. Also, I have been on a train. I am available for interviews on the subject.
I remember these guys being heroes to us............this man was the most wanted in Britain...........they stuck up two fingers at the establishment! Shame about the driver though they never intended to do that.
I met Bruce on a couple of occasions when he was living in East Croydon. I was a plumber and I went to his flat, it was owned by some organisation at church organisation , i done some work there, he gave me a book he’d had written and signed it for me, he might have been a criminal, but he was a gentleman, still have the book, and still have great memories of the times I was there.
This is all nice,good criminals,almost Robin Hood,but they were all caught ,had to do heavy time,left as many evidence as for two books...at the end,they gave best years of their lives ,enjoyed maybe 2 weeks until they were all in all the newspapers.
Bruce Reynolds was treated with respect and looked like an intellectual, unlike Ronnie Biggs who spent 35 years on the run, was like a cheekie chappie, and treated with contempt, as though he was a child killer danger to society. Reynolds managed to evade capture for five years before his arrest in Torquay in November 1968.
Superb upload as always Liam, How longer can Hollywood keep ignoring you, Take Care, Mike Gray (Author, The Ronnie Biggs Quiz Book & The Great Train Robbery Quiz Book).
Reynolds was the leader of the gang. Biggs almost a non-entity. When Reynolds died it was nothing like the major news story that the death of Biggs is. It is ludicrous that a man who had such a tiny role in this crime, including being nowhere near the train when the driver was attacked, should have received the same sentence as the rest, and even then, thirty years for the gang was far more than what rapists would have got, and there were no guns involved in this raid. I believe the Establishment cared far more about the gang making off with over two million pounds than the attack on Jack Mills. Is it any wonder that Biggs escaped, and then proceeded to cock a snook at the UK establishment? You don't have to admire Biggs for being part of this crime, but if his sentence had been proportionate, I doubt he would have escaped, and he would be a tiny, virtually forgotten, footnote in history
No a non entity is people like you who read about the train robbery and have opions on it you was not there i call that a non entity Biggs got an equal share of the money so how can that make him a nothing you need to learn your history.
john chrysostomou There was never any evidence that Biggs was near the driver - the worst part of this crime - nor that he was some sort of criminal mastermind. I also haven't defended the crime. You're the one that needs a history lesson.
well my dad and his dad were both hard working dockers .never had a day of there work in there life's.paid there taxes and were men real men ..men that am proud to be from .WTF is this about .
garrygold123 Got to hand it to you mate ,you had me on the floor with that one ,.I recall when as a boy our house full of bananas when the banana boats came in and coffee we never ran out lol ..however was perks of the job lol
Haha every docker in them days robbed and taking a bar of chocolate or going for a bigger prize is know different in morrals. Thing is with crime people do burglarys because there smack eds and get hardly no jail. But Rob of the government or do a big job get 30 year there is a saying gentleman theife and this man was that. RIP BRUCE
My dad was also an honest hard working man who paid his taxes and never took a day off sick even when he was genuinely ill as a result he died at the age of 64 stoking a boiler when he still had the flu (RIP dad) he left my mum me and my brothers with nothing; that's why I drifted into crime as a youth. This stuck me as totally unfair that after a lifetimes work a man's family had nothing to show for I've grown up now but as a youth I was resentful of society and saw nothing wrong with doing whatever it took to make money so that if I died my family wouldn't be left in the same situation
@@hujjesb it was the perks that made being a docker such a great without the dockers and the black market poor people would never have survived the rationing and shortages of the war they done more to raise morale than all of Churchill's speeches or anything the King did or said
Lovely human beings, sometimes things have to be done but they have paid the price, they the crime and the time,good luck to them, hope they enjoyed the good times,take my hat off to them 💯👌😄🌟🌟🌞
Why are they legends? What they did had no noble purpose. They were greedy, liked the thrill of the act and couldn't do honest work to earn their way in the world. The only reason you say this is because of the scale and "ingenious" with which they got the money and the following onslaught of praise from the press that over time turned them into roguish anti-heroes, Al Capone style.
No free lunch. Just watch the interviews. Blokes a cabbage in prison. Most of this It are skint, nothing to show for a life behind bars. A benefit gig to raise Ronnie's medical costs.
My mum's ex boyfriend worked with Ronnie here in Melbourne at channel 9 (he told me he almost died of shock when he found out who he really was lol) He said that he was a bit of a scallywag but was absolutely fantastic company. RIP Ronnie, you will be missed mate. And the very same to you Bruce, you seem like a thorough gent to me fella...
I would have thought that was bleeding obvious . Courtney is only worshipped by wannabes , old school crims would even mention his name much less tolerate his company .
If you win the birth lottery and are born/raised with wealth, then life is fantastic, you have a life where anything is possible and people fall over themselves to help you, if you don't then life is varying degrees of hard. It's decision time! These were just normal guys born without a silver spoon who decided why should some be born to live out their every desire and others a life of work, work and a bit more fucking work with nothing to show for it other than getting older/fading away. We are only here the once so they went for it and they did it in a manner without the extreme violence exhibited today for just looking at someone in the wrong way, huge amount of stabbings in the country right now and acid attacks of all things. Hats off to them, they went for it and gave two fingers to the establishment who were born lucky. The lions share of the rich haven't earned it, it's inherited wealth/power, upper class halfwits who if they did have to survive would struggle. Toffs like the Royal family. How being born/marrying into a certain family makes someone special is beyond me, just what world do we live in?? Go back far enough and most wealth/power is through ill gotten gains and using people/staff as little more than slaves or out right slaves breaking their backs for others to prosper or even worse waging war and sending millions of unfortunate poor to an early grave. Mr Reynolds lived a life by his rules, how many of us can say that?
Can’t believe all the absolute crap written in the comments below. The train robbers were all low-level, small time crooks that got caught due to their lack of brains & ability. They were mugs, pure and simple. RIP, all of them.
Ronnie Biggs was brought in because he had been working at the retired train drivers house during his work as a Carpenter. On the night of the robbery the driver couldn't get the train to move. Biggs was told to take the old driver and wait in the land rover and take care of him which he did. He was not in the cab when Jack Mills was coshed .
Which one of you guys, bought a small holing nr mansfeild, I wo 8 years old and I saw one a you guys, my mum.n dad would not beleive me,,,, I read the book, on the robbery, and one a the.guys, lived in mansfield, pilsley, area,
The robbery itself was executed swiftly, cleanly, effectively. Then it seems all the participants experienced brain drain by treating their 'safehouse' with extreme reckless abandon with no thought of legal consequences, like leaving bags used in the robbery, leaving fingerprints for anyone to find, leaving the place in a horrific mess. All the investigators had to do was peer through any window to see something was seriously amiss; not long afterwards numerous men were caught. The idea was great. The overall execution was egregious.
They paid someone to burn down the property after they left but he betrayed them , took the money and ran , leaving the whole barn filled with evidence and that’s how they were caught. If it went to plan they’d of got away with it.
You have to take your hat off to the whole operation, but at the same time , wonder why they got a cleaner to take care of the forensic evidence who was completely out of his depth, Bruce Reynolds was the brains and the organiser, but its just a pity he chose a solicitor to do the clean up job, in stead of an arsonist.
Come to South Africa and look at real crime. This was soft compared to rape, murder , home invasions and and and in this now soiled Country. Thank you.
malc jow .... the replies on this thread are interesting.... you all sound as though you know what you're talking about. But I'd like to know more about Bruce Reynolds.... it's all about Ronnie.
Same with the Tonbridge Securitas depot robbery. Two large criminal gangs involved, the Kent boys made silly errors and that was their downfall. Too many cooks really do spoil the broth in a heist!
@ramsey robert The Kent boys still made a load of basic errors, that's a fact. perfect example, Stuart Royle hiring a van in his own name. You couldn't make it up.
@@colindant3410 Thanks, Colin, I'll take a look. I'm interested in the psyche of thieves - not meaning to sound patronising. For example, do thieves spend half their time looking over their shoulders and watching their backs? It's a high price to pay - how can they truly enjoy life..
why the hell didn't he leave one behind and burn it too the ground... Can't believe he'd trust someone he didn't know with their liberty... Total madness. I'd have waited till the night when the lads had gone plastered it in fuel and burned it to the ground.. Then the bill couldn't have falsified any evidence... Once anyone gives their dabs its easy to "Lift them". And plant them wherever you want....
I admire the train robbers .also the job they did .buy he was on the job .so he got 30 .the same as the rest .they r not going 2 give him .10 just because he played a minor part .Next thing u no .they will be dishing out .7 s 10 s 15s 2 different members .depending on the role they played .the up set the hierarchy. And had 2 be made an example off .any 1 who attacks some 1 wearing the queen's symbol .postman .prison warder etc .can expect jail .if u thump a screw outside charges r bought in .if u clout a postman .then nick hid bad .u can expect jail .
Yes, they were legends other than the coshing of driver Mills. Not that bright either tho' - left their dabs at the farm, Biggs got a (steam) train driver, no plan to launder the money (they expected £40,000 each, got £147,000), all bad lads and known to the police, last one out didn't torch the farm. Ridiculous to think used bank notes were transported to be incinerated ! The sentences were over the top as a result of the Profumo affair and the Tories didn't get back into power anyway.
If you read the accounts of Biggs' condition towards the last decade of his life, you'd know it was hanging by a thread for its entirety. Would have died sooner in Brazil.
@@hellepost1439 That's a lie. Jack died of Leukaemia and Pneumonia, the coroner said there was no connection between his death and the assault by the train robbers.
LET US NOT GLORIFY THESE VIOLENT CRIMINALS. The innocent driver of the train was beaten so badly that he was never the same again and died not long after. Where was the glory in that? These people were/are thugs. Stop glorifying these monsters.
I am not glorifying anyone - re Bruce Reynolds he master minded the robbery & was not involved with the incident with train driver. I just film events & interesting people - it is up to the viewer to decide their viewpoint on whoever is filmed & I welcome all comments - thanks for watching
@@davidfelix2594 I think James hussey said it was him before he died though has been revealed he may just have done that to take the questions off the others ect.. Apparently GG and Reynolds son both know though it's a real grey area at the end of the day they're robbers and we can choose to believe them or not
@@samcullum5527 You may be right Sam, i just can't recall the fella's name, but like you say he could have just said that to deflect the blame, personally i don't believe that the coshing caused the driver's death some 7 years later, didn't the driver have an illness like a brain tumour or something? Just looked it up, he died from leukaemia.
@@davidfelix2594 yes leukaemia and something else related I think obviously there would be the shock ect that would mentally stay with him though I don't believe the hit would've participated towards his death though I can't say for certain.
Biggs shouldn't have got the 'best medical care' he was an escaped con, had paid SFA into the system for years and should have stayed in South America!
Fucking legend Fucking genius what a man rest in peace
Proper Working Class Hero 💪
A true gentleman and criminal mastermind, not like the wannabe gangsters of today!
@Ben Davison exactly 👍
@nick kent anyways since when has being a criminal become something to be praised for????
So whats your claim to fame ? Ah thats it , hiding behind your made up names. Pair of plastics.
@@imogenkent6183 exactly haha there just a bunch off losers... Better to be somebody for a day than no one for a lifetime
Here here .
Here here.week end plastic wanna be assholes
BR a True Working Class Hero 💪
Fantastic interview with a man who thinks before he speaks
What a very well educated individual and a villain my kind of man 👍
The driver on the engine In the Great train Robbery in 1963 was Jack Mills, . I fired for Jack Mills in the 1950s at Crewe sheds.
He had his regular fireman , but he was sick or on holiday , I did only fire for him a couple of trips, I got on with him alright.,I left the railway in 1954, and I never saw Jack again, very sad after all his hard work in his experience on steam to be treated terrible and never recovered to work again.
It could have been my father in the 49 years my father was at Crewe sheds, fireman and eventually the driver.
It was unusual for this type of offences on the steam engines, but life has changed so much since the 1950s.
it was a Class 45 diesel engine hauling the mail train, not a steam loco.
The Jayser no class 40
I was involved in the Great Train Robbery indirectly. I was only three years old but the tomato sauce bottle in our house had my prints all over it. Also, I have been on a train. I am available for interviews on the subject.
Tell me more dude 🤔
I remember these guys being heroes to us............this man was the most wanted in Britain...........they stuck up two fingers at the establishment! Shame about the driver though they never intended to do that.
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded‼️‼️‼️
I guess the sentences more personal then anything else
But they did do
They took an iron bar with them for that purpose.
I met Bruce on a couple of occasions when he was living in East Croydon. I was a plumber and I went to his flat, it was owned by some organisation at church organisation , i done some work there, he gave me a book he’d had written and signed it for me, he might have been a criminal, but he was a gentleman, still have the book, and still have great memories of the times I was there.
Lovely guy. RIP Bruce
Oh yes attacking a train driver in the great train robbery makes him nice .
@@09weenic it wasn’t him that coshed driver
There is loyalty and honor, amongst the most honoral and loyal of alternate livers of life.
A true gentlemen thief,One of the best criminal minds ever the robbery was not just about money,It was the challenge and the prestige.respect
This is all nice,good criminals,almost Robin Hood,but they were all caught ,had to do heavy time,left as many evidence as for two books...at the end,they gave best years of their lives ,enjoyed maybe 2 weeks until they were all in all the newspapers.
@@vatafakman nah mate boggs enjoyed more than 2 weeks mate
@@vatafakman shut up square
I wonder how the family of the railman who died as a result of injuries during the robbery
@@theofarmmanager267 He was assaulted & They were applauded ‼️‼️‼️
Mr Reynolds you was ahead of your time regarding the train robbery still humble top man done your time got on with it old school.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID BY BRUCE REYNOLDS.
This has really helped me in my project for english
Met Bruce a few times back in the day, immaculately dressed, carried himself very well.
Respect to those old time villains
Bruce Reynolds was treated with respect and looked like an intellectual, unlike Ronnie Biggs who spent 35 years on the run, was like a cheekie chappie, and treated with contempt, as though he was a child killer danger to society. Reynolds managed to evade capture for five years before his arrest in Torquay in November 1968.
True legend RIP
Proper villains, not plastic gangsters.
Legend ..... R.I.P Bruce .... we miss you !!!! No more gentlemen like you in to day world
When a few Blue collar guys dared to dream BIG,outlaw legends 🥃Rip Jack Mills 🙏
Superb upload as always Liam, How longer can Hollywood keep ignoring you, Take Care, Mike Gray (Author, The Ronnie Biggs Quiz Book & The Great Train Robbery Quiz Book).
Bruce was a inspiration to me and many other criminals rest easy Bruce you have earned it rip
And you’re self snitching on yourself Adrian ? 😅 why would you call yourself a criminal ?
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 💯😂😂
Scrote
The fuck
Pathetic 😂
Reynolds was the leader of the gang. Biggs almost a non-entity. When Reynolds died it was nothing like the major news story that the death of Biggs is. It is ludicrous that a man who had such a tiny role in this crime, including being nowhere near the train when the driver was attacked, should have received the same sentence as the rest, and even then, thirty years for the gang was far more than what rapists would have got, and there were no guns involved in this raid.
I believe the Establishment cared far more about the gang making off with over two million pounds than the attack on Jack Mills.
Is it any wonder that Biggs escaped, and then proceeded to cock a snook at the UK establishment? You don't have to admire Biggs for being part of this crime, but if his sentence had been proportionate, I doubt he would have escaped, and he would be a tiny, virtually forgotten, footnote in history
No a non entity is people like you who read about the train robbery and have opions on it you was not there i call that a non entity Biggs got an equal share of the money so how can that make him a nothing you need to learn your history.
john chrysostomou biggs blew gordon goody up and the prick bigs was no wear to be seen when the fukin train got robbed read bigs fukin b book
john chrysostomou
There was never any evidence that Biggs was near the driver - the worst part of this crime - nor that he was some sort of criminal mastermind. I also haven't defended the crime.
You're the one that needs a history lesson.
Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was illegal to leave your wife. The list of the man's crimes amaze me.
cbak12sg His wife had an afair anyway with one of his mates as well so he was fee to leave her plus all she done is moan
Martin Scorsese should make a movie about this uno
My uncles wifes best friends second cousin doesn't know anyone who took part in the robbery either.
You should write a book about the train robbery people who knew the Krays much less than you know the train robbers have done it
you gotta love this guy.
RIP what a geezer
well my dad and his dad were both hard working dockers .never had a day of there work in there life's.paid there taxes and were men real men ..men that am proud to be from .WTF is this about .
and they did not steal a thing in there life lol
garrygold123 Got to hand it to you mate ,you had me on the floor with that one ,.I recall when as a boy our house full of bananas when the banana boats came in and coffee we never ran out lol ..however was perks of the job lol
Haha every docker in them days robbed and taking a bar of chocolate or going for a bigger prize is know different in morrals. Thing is with crime people do burglarys because there smack eds and get hardly no jail. But Rob of the government or do a big job get 30 year there is a saying gentleman theife and this man was that. RIP BRUCE
My dad was also an honest hard working man who paid his taxes and never took a day off sick even when he was genuinely ill as a result he died at the age of 64 stoking a boiler when he still had the flu (RIP dad) he left my mum me and my brothers with nothing; that's why I drifted into crime as a youth. This stuck me as totally unfair that after a lifetimes work a man's family had nothing to show for I've grown up now but as a youth I was resentful of society and saw nothing wrong with doing whatever it took to make money so that if I died my family wouldn't be left in the same situation
@@hujjesb it was the perks that made being a docker such a great without the dockers and the black market poor people would never have survived the rationing and shortages of the war they done more to raise morale than all of Churchill's speeches or anything the King did or said
Love it. Ronnie was a nice guy and a lovable rogue. Bet the poor train driver never thought that after geeting coshed.
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded‼️‼️‼️
RIP Bruce.. Mastermind.
Rest in peace the great train robber even though he died 5 years ago
Read his book .what a man .a true gentlemen also a superb planner .the airport robbery and the train .fair play to u Bruce .respect .rip .
He was a proper bell end 🛎
niceto see some one that does not call them not slagging off another person respect
Lovely human beings, sometimes things have to be done but they have paid the price, they the crime and the time,good luck to them, hope they enjoyed the good times,take my hat off to them 💯👌😄🌟🌟🌞
Yeah, lovely the way they battered the train driver.....
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded‼️‼️‼️
@@il9237 Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded‼️‼️‼️
Legends the lot of them.
Legends dont get caught..
Why are they legends? What they did had no noble purpose. They were greedy, liked the thrill of the act and couldn't do honest work to earn their way in the world. The only reason you say this is because of the scale and "ingenious" with which they got the money and the following onslaught of praise from the press that over time turned them into roguish anti-heroes, Al Capone style.
Cunts, the lot of them
No free lunch. Just watch the interviews.
Blokes a cabbage in prison.
Most of this
It are skint, nothing to show for a life behind bars. A benefit gig to raise Ronnie's medical costs.
@@judyhopps9380 Watch your language!
Best job ever
I met this bloke in the pub who said he'd seen a thing on tele about Ronnie Biggs. Straight up.
We all had fun that night out on Leatherslade Farm
My mum's ex boyfriend worked with Ronnie here in Melbourne at channel 9 (he told me he almost died of shock when he found out who he really was lol) He said that he was a bit of a scallywag but was absolutely fantastic company. RIP Ronnie, you will be missed mate. And the very same to you Bruce, you seem like a thorough gent to me fella...
Rip to The Great Train Robbers 👌💯🌟😄
Good riddance to them.
Why was Dave Courtney refused entry at Bruce Reynolds funeral? It's not like you have to have an invite to a funeral to pay respects is it?
I would have thought that was bleeding obvious . Courtney is only worshipped by wannabes , old school crims would even mention his name much less tolerate his company .
Legends!
If you win the birth lottery and are born/raised with wealth, then life is fantastic, you have a life where anything is possible and people fall over themselves to help you, if you don't then life is varying degrees of hard. It's decision time!
These were just normal guys born without a silver spoon who decided why should some be born to live out their every desire and others a life of work, work and a bit more fucking work with nothing to show for it other than getting older/fading away. We are only here the once so they went for it and they did it in a manner without the extreme violence exhibited today for just looking at someone in the wrong way, huge amount of stabbings in the country right now and acid attacks of all things.
Hats off to them, they went for it and gave two fingers to the establishment who were born lucky. The lions share of the rich haven't earned it, it's inherited wealth/power, upper class halfwits who if they did have to survive would struggle. Toffs like the Royal family. How being born/marrying into a certain family makes someone special is beyond me, just what world do we live in?? Go back far enough and most wealth/power is through ill gotten gains and using people/staff as little more than slaves or out right slaves breaking their backs for others to prosper or even worse waging war and sending millions of unfortunate poor to an early grave.
Mr Reynolds lived a life by his rules, how many of us can say that?
Life isn't always fantastic if yo're rich.
@@Sirdiggar true but you have a much better chance. You have options which poor people don't
Well said 👍
Legend rip bruce
fair play biggs never moaned about the 30 he got even though he played a small role.
He did a bit more than just complain about it he fkn escaped from it
Was you there with him all those years then? 🤡🙄🥱
RIP Bruce, RIP Ronnie
Can’t believe all the absolute crap written in the comments below. The train robbers were all low-level, small time crooks that got caught due to their lack of brains & ability. They were mugs, pure and simple. RIP, all of them.
Ronnie Biggs was brought in because he had been working at the retired train drivers house during his work as a Carpenter. On the night of the robbery the driver couldn't get the train to move. Biggs was told to take the old driver and wait in the land rover and take care of him which he did. He was not in the cab when Jack Mills was coshed .
Meanwhile, The Establishment is the biggest bunch of criminals, yet they are never held to account. RIP Bruce, Ronnie, Jack.
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They were applauded‼️‼️‼️‼️
Agreed
Absolutely inhumane sentencing.
If you play with fire, you get burned.
Met his son what a lovely lad he is to long a sentence for Ronnie especially the bad things that are happening to day
When is the next train ?
Looked after Ronnie at Belmash prison
Dingy
Bruce & the others who were sentenced to 30 years never committed another crime cos they knew they would have to serve the full term if they did.
BOTH RONNIE BIGGS & BRUCE REYNOLDS ARE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERS. REMEMBER THERES MORE THAN ONE.
Which one of you guys, bought a small holing nr mansfeild, I wo 8 years old and I saw one a you guys, my mum.n dad would not beleive me,,,, I read the book, on the robbery, and one a the.guys, lived in mansfield, pilsley, area,
A Legend R.I.P Bruce
id say bruce, have more than 1 guy to burn the farm down, in case the other fella
doesnt show up., and you wont get caught
I've got DVD with this footage on
Yup that was on one of our Gangster Videos dvds - cheers
@@LiamGalvinFilmwhy did he commit suicide?? Buster Edward??
What a legend
A proper naughty boy.
Sentencing was absolutely correct. Stealing that much money required an adequate response. Ronnie Biggs knee what he was getting in to.
Legend
Agree100%
Wat els would u do whit it
Bruce Reynolds the general
Remember in those days .prisons were . The birch .and bread and water
Tbh given they planned the most daring robbery in history but also given the modern criminals are worse nowadays
Very clever man
This man is a genius
I wonder what Football team he supported
I expect it was Millwall him being a South Londoner
Charlton
The robbery itself was executed swiftly, cleanly, effectively. Then it seems all the participants experienced brain drain by treating their 'safehouse' with extreme reckless abandon with no thought of legal consequences, like leaving bags used in the robbery, leaving fingerprints for anyone to find, leaving the place in a horrific mess. All the investigators had to do was peer through any window to see something was seriously amiss; not long afterwards numerous men were caught. The idea was great. The overall execution was egregious.
They paid someone to burn down the property after they left but he betrayed them , took the money and ran , leaving the whole barn filled with evidence and that’s how they were caught. If it went to plan they’d of got away with it.
You have to take your hat off to the whole operation, but at the same time , wonder why they got a cleaner to take care of the forensic evidence who was completely out of his depth, Bruce Reynolds was the brains and the organiser, but its just a pity he chose a solicitor to do the clean up job, in stead of an arsonist.
Legends all!
He wrote a book about his life it's a great read
Luke Evans has let himself go
Come to South Africa and look at real crime. This was soft compared to rape, murder , home invasions and and and in this now soiled Country. Thank you.
He doesn't look like crime has payed
The train robbery was doomed from the start...too many links in the chain...plus London is full of grasses..
malc jow
.... the replies on this thread are interesting.... you all sound as though you know what you're talking about. But I'd like to know more about Bruce Reynolds.... it's all about Ronnie.
Same with the Tonbridge Securitas depot robbery. Two large criminal gangs involved, the Kent boys made silly errors and that was their downfall. Too many cooks really do spoil the broth in a heist!
@ramsey robert The Kent boys still made a load of basic errors, that's a fact. perfect example, Stuart Royle hiring a van in his own name. You couldn't make it up.
@@LettyK Read 'Autobiography of a thief'
@@colindant3410 Thanks, Colin, I'll take a look.
I'm interested in the psyche of thieves - not meaning to sound patronising. For example, do thieves spend half their time looking over their shoulders and watching their backs? It's a high price to pay - how can they truly enjoy life..
why the hell didn't he leave one behind and burn it too the ground...
Can't believe he'd trust someone he didn't know with their liberty...
Total madness. I'd have waited till the night when the lads had gone plastered it in fuel and burned it to the ground..
Then the bill couldn't have falsified any evidence...
Once anyone gives their dabs its easy to "Lift them". And plant them wherever you want....
Ronnie was on the blag .so he got the same as the rest .what did Bruce think he was gonna get community service
I admire the train robbers .also the job they did .buy he was on the job .so he got 30 .the same as the rest .they r not going 2 give him .10 just because he played a minor part .Next thing u no .they will be dishing out .7 s 10 s 15s 2 different members .depending on the role they played .the up set the hierarchy. And had 2 be made an example off .any 1 who attacks some 1 wearing the queen's symbol .postman .prison warder etc .can expect jail .if u thump a screw outside charges r bought in .if u clout a postman .then nick hid bad .u can expect jail .
Who was the real Mr.big u probably never know
fingerprint on a sauce bottle sounds a bit dodgy I fancy they were grassed
david dingvean there’s a documentary on YT where a cop says the same thing and gives a name.🥃
@@richdoe6136 have u got link
david dingvean secret history the great train robbery.
Yes saw it defo grassed
david dingvean McVicar agrees 🥃
Yes, they were legends other than the coshing of driver Mills. Not that bright either tho' - left their dabs at the farm, Biggs got a (steam) train driver, no plan to launder the money (they expected £40,000 each, got £147,000), all bad lads and known to the police, last one out didn't torch the farm. Ridiculous to think used bank notes were transported to be incinerated ! The sentences were over the top as a result of the Profumo affair and the Tories didn't get back into power anyway.
Funny thing is, Reynolds helped get biggs back into the UK because he was dying, yet Biggs outlived reynolds. lol
If you read the accounts of Biggs' condition towards the last decade of his life, you'd know it was hanging by a thread for its entirety. Would have died sooner in Brazil.
They don't make them like Bruce Reynolds anymore. R.I.P
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded.‼️‼️‼️‼️
@@hellepost1439 That's a lie. Jack died of Leukaemia and Pneumonia, the coroner said there was no connection between his death and the assault by the train robbers.
What good old lad. They should have burnt that farm house down though
What a lovely well spoken Englishman crook
A proper Money getter, RIP. a true Legend..
Coshing the train driver didn't help their case one bit.
...nor endangering the railway and other trains by cutting telegraph wires
Jack Mills sustained severe brain damage. He never recovered and suffered until his death. He was assaulted and They are applauded‼️‼️‼️
LET US NOT GLORIFY THESE VIOLENT CRIMINALS. The innocent driver of the train was beaten so badly that he was never the same again and died not long after. Where was the glory in that? These people were/are thugs. Stop glorifying these monsters.
I am not glorifying anyone - re Bruce Reynolds he master minded the robbery & was not involved with the incident with train driver. I just film events & interesting people - it is up to the viewer to decide their viewpoint on whoever is filmed & I welcome all comments - thanks for watching
Criminals never deserve our respect. Ever.
@@RobinJ62the whole world is run by criminals.
Which of the gang coshed the train driver?
Tungsten Kid never was revealed. Most of them didn't even know because they were all dressed similar and had balaclavas on
it was revealed...can't recall the name off the top of my head but if you search the internet i'm sure it will be there.
@@davidfelix2594 I think James hussey said it was him before he died though has been revealed he may just have done that to take the questions off the others ect.. Apparently GG and Reynolds son both know though it's a real grey area at the end of the day they're robbers and we can choose to believe them or not
@@samcullum5527 You may be right Sam, i just can't recall the fella's name, but like you say he could have just said that to deflect the blame, personally i don't believe that the coshing caused the driver's death some 7 years later, didn't the driver have an illness like a brain tumour or something? Just looked it up, he died from leukaemia.
@@davidfelix2594 yes leukaemia and something else related I think obviously there would be the shock ect that would mentally stay with him though I don't believe the hit would've participated towards his death though I can't say for certain.
Sentences for TGTR was outragous .
Get work not jobs..
And not coloured tv s and social workers
Biggs shouldn't have got the 'best medical care' he was an escaped con, had paid SFA into the system for years and should have stayed in South America!
Yet immigrants can???? Bollox. He is English. The cunts here now are not and get the best. So wtf
A great bloke and old friend
Great film and a job I should have been on come and ask me on twitter @TheSafecracker_ safecracker.org.uk
A criminal
Criminals do not deserve our respect
Not now. Not ever.