My first time hearing this band....and definitely not the last. I absolutely love songs with haunting melody's and vocals. This song surely brings it. Thank you Dave !!!
Still gives me chills 20 years later - the original obviously included. So glad you did this David, not sure if the original will give you the same vibes BUT SOMEONE REQUEST IT ANYWAY
The live version extended solo version. A treat for us who’ve listened to This song a thousand times. Great reaction and good to see you get it and feel it in your soul. Great vocal melody and lyrics. Thanks for doing this
Come on David, you get the insta thumbs up. You have great reactions and always seem genuine and that's important. Plus the band and song are amazing so how wouldn't this be worth a insta thumbs up?
This song is about being there to take his mom off life support...such a powerful line : "Give me one more medicated peaceful moment". I still get chills.
wtf are you talking about?!? The name of this song is a reference to a Greek myth. Orestes is the son of Agamemnon and Clytemnestra. While he is away, his mother kills his father. Later on, Orestes comes back to avenge his father, killing his mother and her lover, Aegisthus. However, breaking family ties is a terrible offense to the Erinyes, the Furies that even gods fear. They pursue Orestes around Greece, and he finds salvation in Athena’s temple, where the goddess makes a trial and acquits Orestes.
@@SpeedOfThought1111 Hey, man. Came in a little bit hard, but you brought facts, which I respect. Every thing you said is correct, but I would like to focus on three words you said: "killing his mother". The song is more than likely a metaphor using the Orestes myth to describe the narrator's own feelings about the choice to end their mother's life. On a purely literal level, you are correct. It does refer to the Greek myth. But consider this: Maynard James Keenan's mother suffered an aneurysm when he was 11 years old and she was paralyzed for the rest of her life. He has used it as inspiration for numerous songs such as Jimmy, 10,000 days, and another song on this album, Judith. Judith's health would have been declining by the time he wrote these lyrics (she had been paralyzed over 30 years at that point), although she lived until 2003. You may know all this so I'm sorry if I'm over-explaining, but I just want to stress how much her struggle and his feelings on the subject matter affects his writing. Maynard has said that most of the songs he writes have a literal meaning and if you want to dig deeper, the depth is there. (paraphrased) Lyrically, the song starts with the words "Metaphor for a missing moment" which could indicate that the song is a stand-in for something else. I would back up the metaphor interpretation because while Orestes doubts his will to perform the act of revenge on his mother, I don't believe either he or his mother are "medicated" as the song states. I would also question if Orestes ever felt "overwhelming hostility" at the situation as he only sought to kill them at the Oracle's and Electra's behest. Also, there wouldn't be a reason to "almost hear you scream" since Electra had quieted the choir to hear Clytemnestra's death and Orestes would be able to hear his mother's cries. Also consider that the song doesn't tie in to most of the Orestes tale. Specifically, it uses "womb" and "umbilical residue that's keeping me from killing you" to refer to one specific moment of the story: the act of killing one's own mother. It isn't difficult to imagine the lyrics applying to being at a loved one's hospital bed side and feeling the self-doubt, anger, and guilt at having to make a decision to end their life...especially if they are the one that brought you into this world. This creates a "perfect circle". Perhaps in hindsight I should have worded my comment as "Many people believe the song is a metaphor comparing the myth surrounding Orestes (who killed his mother) and a semi - autobiographical narrator contemplating the strength to take their mother off of life support." I don't normally comment on videos, but I just threw a comment up there very quickly since I really love the song. I knew David isn't typically a "lyrics guy" so I just wanted to give a little personal context to one line that I truly appreciate. So to make what I'm saying clear: You are 100% correct and I appreciate your comment. It does add the historical and literary context of the song. But I also believe it is the author's intent to create a song that works on two levels. Feel free to disagree, you are definitely spot-on with the literal references! The beautiful thing about art at this level, is that it's open for interpretation!
@@chrisdunlap5482 That was a very thoughtful and insightful analysis. My mistake. I've never heard this before. I knew about his mother's health issue but didn't know the details of taking her off life support. For some reason I thought she passed naturally as she had already been suffering for so long it seems a little strange to me that he didn't do it earlier I guess but I can understand the struggle.
The solo is way longer in the live version than in the album, (because this is Billy Howerdale´s band, he needs a little bit of spotlight) but the vocals are amazing in the live version. Maynard is the best lead singer ever.
Hearing this live version reminds me why I love A Perfect Circle and have done ever since I first heard Magdalena in 2001. I think the first album is a classic album and for me better than Tool (who I love) Maynard has 3 fantastic bands most artists struggle to have 1 good band on the go. Orestes is a fantastic song, nuff said
To me this is one of the most Beautiful songs I've ever heard just because of Vocals listen to the studio version as well. The reaction is only one a true musician can give.
Listening to live songs, there's always the chance the band's gonna go an extra mile in their hits. But, if you paid good money to be there in the audience, you are NOT gonna complain about more Howerdel guitar lol! Even in the shadows, Maynard's harmonies still dominate, but Billy's WAYYYY underrated as a song writer. And Jeff Friedl (who also plays with Maynard in Puscifer) on drums needs FAR more recognition for his talents! Damn near every track off the album this song's from, Mer de Noms, is amazingly beautiful.
APC has a lot of good songs, with this one being one of my personal favorites of them or any band. Melancholic instruments with vocals and lyrics to match push my fun buttons, plus the lyrics feel personal to me. "Gotta cut away, clear away, snip away and sever this umbilical residue keeping me from killing you." Maynard had to have some reason to write lyrics this personal to him that resonates so well with fans.
I actually think that solo went a few measures longer than it does on the album. So listening to that version may alleviate the length issue you had. Dont you worry the raw emotion is still very evident in the vocals. P.s. chills all day from this song!
The drummer is none other than the legendary Josh mfkn Freese of...at this point it may be easier to list who he HASN'T played with....Vandals, Suicidal Tendencies, Guns N Roses, Devo, Sting, Nine Inch Nails, Weezer, Danny Elfman...to name a few. Dude's amazing. And Maynard and Billy's voices complement each other's like very few duos can.
Holy crap it is CRAZY how many APC virgins there are here. WELCOME. Check out the Mer De Noms version too. One of their early demos was Orestes so if you look it up you can see where this “came from”
Would the score change if I point out the song isn’t in D? Billy tunes to C# standard. 😉 Everything else was on point though. Some of the best melody and harmony work you will find. And Billy‘a guitar tone is always amazing.
I watched a few of your reviews on Pumpkins songs. I figured I would watch this to see if you were impressed. If you weren’t impressed I was going to move on as there is nothing we could do for you.
My first time hearing this band....and definitely not the last. I absolutely love songs with haunting melody's and vocals. This song surely brings it. Thank you Dave !!!
You have to listen to the whole album! You're welcome 😊
Also the other albums, my favorite is 13th Step.
@@pablerry Me too!! 😁
@@pablerry me too!!!!😊
This entire show they were totally on their game. This performance of Orestes is better than the studio version, incredible stuff.
You're definitely one of my favorite reactors. I always get so stoked when i see a new video from you reacting to a band I love
FEELIN' YOU Chaz!!!
The drummer is Josh Freeze, arguably the best all around player in rock/pop music today. He is a BEAST. A damn machine.
🤘Solid, we need more. Awesome review/reaction DH
I believe that solo was extended the actual studio one is shorter
Yeah this was an extended version
Loving these reactions to live versions of APC and Puscifer. Thanks for the entertainment!
Exactly right score. Love.
Love it! I'm tearing 😢 up!! This song gets to me too!!! 😍
Great reaction! It’s was great to share that journey with you. If you dig into the lyrics , the chills multiply 🤘🏽
I knew you'd like this one. Gives me goosebumps every time. Vocals are crazy. Love the instruments too. Great reaction vid as always ✌🏼
Still gives me chills 20 years later - the original obviously included. So glad you did this David, not sure if the original will give you the same vibes BUT SOMEONE REQUEST IT ANYWAY
Watching some old videos by you and this is the first time I've heard you ask for more vocals😂 great song
The live version extended solo version. A treat for us who’ve listened to
This song a thousand times. Great reaction and good to see you get it and feel it in your soul. Great vocal melody and lyrics. Thanks for doing this
That was fun listening to one of my favs with you mate!
I’m feeling it!
Come on David, you get the insta thumbs up. You have great reactions and always seem genuine and that's important. Plus the band and song are amazing so how wouldn't this be worth a insta thumbs up?
He sings nightmares like lullabies. Telling you the most the horrible aspects of the human soul in the most beautiful way.
A soundtrack to the duality of man.
AMAZING REQUEST!!!! Such an underrated song and performance🔥
After all these years I still get chills from this song every damn time
Goosebumps for sure. APC does that a lot.
Was hoping you'd start the song over again. I do appreciate your review format and analysis 🤘
Maynard it's best of the best👍💯
I felt it... chills are multiplying. this is my first listen but not my last 🔥💯
This song is APC at the top of their game. An absolute masterpiece.
During that solo the other instruments were doing some pretty magic stuff too though... the whole song is magic... sad but magic
Great song and a great reaction..... One of Maynards best vocal performance right there!
im so excited for this. cant wait.
its O-rest-tes
orestes killed his mother.
lol. you saying you want to hear more vocals. me knowing whats coming lol.
This song is about being there to take his mom off life support...such a powerful line : "Give me one more medicated peaceful moment". I still get chills.
wtf are you talking about?!? The name of this song is a reference to a Greek myth. Orestes is the son of Agamemnon and Clytemnestra. While he is away, his mother kills his father. Later on, Orestes comes back to avenge his father, killing his mother and her lover, Aegisthus.
However, breaking family ties is a terrible offense to the Erinyes, the Furies that even gods fear. They pursue Orestes around Greece, and he finds salvation in Athena’s temple, where the goddess makes a trial and acquits Orestes.
@@SpeedOfThought1111 Hey, man. Came in a little bit hard, but you brought facts, which I respect. Every thing you said is correct, but I would like to focus on three words you said: "killing his mother". The song is more than likely a metaphor using the Orestes myth to describe the narrator's own feelings about the choice to end their mother's life. On a purely literal level, you are correct. It does refer to the Greek myth. But consider this:
Maynard James Keenan's mother suffered an aneurysm when he was 11 years old and she was paralyzed for the rest of her life. He has used it as inspiration for numerous songs such as Jimmy, 10,000 days, and another song on this album, Judith. Judith's health would have been declining by the time he wrote these lyrics (she had been paralyzed over 30 years at that point), although she lived until 2003. You may know all this so I'm sorry if I'm over-explaining, but I just want to stress how much her struggle and his feelings on the subject matter affects his writing. Maynard has said that most of the songs he writes have a literal meaning and if you want to dig deeper, the depth is there. (paraphrased)
Lyrically, the song starts with the words "Metaphor for a missing moment" which could indicate that the song is a stand-in for something else. I would back up the metaphor interpretation because while Orestes doubts his will to perform the act of revenge on his mother, I don't believe either he or his mother are "medicated" as the song states. I would also question if Orestes ever felt "overwhelming hostility" at the situation as he only sought to kill them at the Oracle's and Electra's behest. Also, there wouldn't be a reason to "almost hear you scream" since Electra had quieted the choir to hear Clytemnestra's death and Orestes would be able to hear his mother's cries.
Also consider that the song doesn't tie in to most of the Orestes tale. Specifically, it uses "womb" and "umbilical residue that's keeping me from killing you" to refer to one specific moment of the story: the act of killing one's own mother. It isn't difficult to imagine the lyrics applying to being at a loved one's hospital bed side and feeling the self-doubt, anger, and guilt at having to make a decision to end their life...especially if they are the one that brought you into this world. This creates a "perfect circle".
Perhaps in hindsight I should have worded my comment as "Many people believe the song is a metaphor comparing the myth surrounding Orestes (who killed his mother) and a semi - autobiographical narrator contemplating the strength to take their mother off of life support." I don't normally comment on videos, but I just threw a comment up there very quickly since I really love the song. I knew David isn't typically a "lyrics guy" so I just wanted to give a little personal context to one line that I truly appreciate.
So to make what I'm saying clear: You are 100% correct and I appreciate your comment. It does add the historical and literary context of the song. But I also believe it is the author's intent to create a song that works on two levels. Feel free to disagree, you are definitely spot-on with the literal references! The beautiful thing about art at this level, is that it's open for interpretation!
@@chrisdunlap5482 That was a very thoughtful and insightful analysis. My mistake. I've never heard this before. I knew about his mother's health issue but didn't know the details of taking her off life support. For some reason I thought she passed naturally as she had already been suffering for so long it seems a little strange to me that he didn't do it earlier I guess but I can understand the struggle.
I really love this solo, but it's extended here, it's a lot shorter on the album version. It's insanely good
the longer is by far better...^^
9,4 👍👍👍
This song makes me cry 🥺 great song
The solo is way longer in the live version than in the album, (because this is Billy Howerdale´s band, he needs a little bit of spotlight) but the vocals are amazing in the live version. Maynard is the best lead singer ever.
Love Billy!
Their best song...to me.
i prefer one of their best...^^
Hearing this live version reminds me why I love A Perfect Circle and have done ever since I first heard Magdalena in 2001. I think the first album is a classic album and for me better than Tool (who I love) Maynard has 3 fantastic bands most artists struggle to have 1 good band on the go. Orestes is a fantastic song, nuff said
Magdalena. Yeah.
To me this is one of the most Beautiful songs I've ever heard just because of Vocals listen to the studio version as well. The reaction is only one a true musician can give.
Great job
This song is a masterpiece.
Listening to live songs, there's always the chance the band's gonna go an extra mile in their hits. But, if you paid good money to be there in the audience, you are NOT gonna complain about more Howerdel guitar lol! Even in the shadows, Maynard's harmonies still dominate, but Billy's WAYYYY underrated as a song writer. And Jeff Friedl (who also plays with Maynard in Puscifer) on drums needs FAR more recognition for his talents! Damn near every track off the album this song's from, Mer de Noms, is amazingly beautiful.
As incredible as this version is, I still feel like the album version is the best version. It is truly a masterpiece.
APC has a lot of good songs, with this one being one of my personal favorites of them or any band. Melancholic instruments with vocals and lyrics to match push my fun buttons, plus the lyrics feel personal to me. "Gotta cut away, clear away, snip away and sever this umbilical residue keeping me from killing you." Maynard had to have some reason to write lyrics this personal to him that resonates so well with fans.
Maynard’s vocal ability, no matter what band he’s fronting, is pure greatness! He doesn’t get enough credit, but then again, he wouldn’t want it …
Bro I have seen over 30 or so live singers and nobody compares to maynard live he sounds better live than on a record he is just unbelievable
It'd be so sick if you watched this entire show and reacted to it. Would probably be a hella long video but so awesome.
React ti the studio version, the last part (vocal) Will blow your mind
👏👏👏👏
What about the second listening? Some new feelings or comments?
I forgot, I'm on my 8th or 9th now. Still feels about the same.
@@THEDavidHeretic btw there is another "Thirteenth Step" albums song called "Blue". With nice harmonies
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I actually think that solo went a few measures longer than it does on the album. So listening to that version may alleviate the length issue you had. Dont you worry the raw emotion is still very evident in the vocals. P.s. chills all day from this song!
The drummer is none other than the legendary Josh mfkn Freese of...at this point it may be easier to list who he HASN'T played with....Vandals, Suicidal Tendencies, Guns N Roses, Devo, Sting, Nine Inch Nails, Weezer, Danny Elfman...to name a few. Dude's amazing.
And Maynard and Billy's voices complement each other's like very few duos can.
Jeff Friedl on this performance. Josh wrote the drum parts though.
...wait 'till you know the story behind the song; they're doing a damn-great job with the song structure and the harmonization. Emotional indeed...
Holy crap it is CRAZY how many APC virgins there are here. WELCOME. Check out the Mer De Noms version too. One of their early demos was Orestes so if you look it up you can see where this “came from”
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one of my favorites. nice shirt.
Maynard goes down and Billy goes up. Their great together
It's a live performance! Gimme that lengthy guitar solo!
Would the score change if I point out the song isn’t in D? Billy tunes to C# standard. 😉
Everything else was on point though. Some of the best melody and harmony work you will find. And Billy‘a guitar tone is always amazing.
Maynard is not human
I watched a few of your reviews on Pumpkins songs. I figured I would watch this to see if you were impressed. If you weren’t impressed I was going to move on as there is nothing we could do for you.
Yeah the guitar solo is a live version; it's much shorter on the album.
He milked the solo for Red Rocks. Studio version is more what you’re looking for
The solo went long? You must HATE Comfortably Numb... LOL..