If you use a Leica lens on a Sony A7riv body using an Voigtlander adapter what are the disadvantages? Do you use loose image quality as using an adapter changes the distance from of the lens from the sensor?
The images were o.k that's all. The Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 image looked great, how does that Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 look adapted to the Eos R (especially in the purple fringe department) ?
Can you use this lens the M Mount version on the Leica SL2-S ? I tryed but it's looks like a 75 mm :-( strange. Or maybe it is better to use the L mount
I suppose you could adapt the m-mount of this lens to any other mirrorless, but you will, of course, get whatever comes with adapting to a cropped sensor. 7artisans has other offerings for mirrorless which are quite reasonable and have been well received as well.. trying not to use this term that's been over quoted, but you really do get quite a lot of bang for your buck.
Gustavo Ibarra take a look at the Canon 50mm f1.4 LTM in eBay. It’s just a bit dreamy at f1.4 and pretty damn sharp from f2.8 downward. If you want dreamy the 50mm f1.2 LTM will make you really happy.
All of these have been used through all those years, and to find 2 samples of them that work identically you would have to look a lot.. What I mean is that Minolta MD is like ~30-40 years old and I am sure it wasnt laying 30 years in some safe house somewhere.. It was used and even if you find one in a mint condition it means that it was used anyway at some point.. And just consider the fact that after so many years, there will be dust, fungus and oil separation marks, the coatings wont be in perfect condition etc.. And they go for what, like 400-800usd these days. This one is new, it comes with warranty of some sort, it has better coatings (most likely) it has 12 aperture blades, while most of the fast glass has 8 or 6, pretty common, as far as I know only canon LTM 50m 1,2f and 50mm 0,95 dream lens, and noctilux fast fifties have ~12 or 15 aperture blades. All others ~6-8 so when you stop them down, even to 1,8f or 2f the highlights wont be round anymore and turn in to hexagonal shape.. Which might not be problem at 2,8 or 3,5f, but with these fast lenses you get it 1,8f or 2f.. Rendering is also a big things if you consider between these lenses, this one looks like it has some strange busy looking bokeh wide open and it gets smooth when you stop it down a little.
All the time you say is insane 365$....Coz the leica lenses is so expensive is not insane 365$ for chinese manual lens!! Is just a good deal for people who can take a good pictures without spend 11k$
I`m glad the Chinese are getting into the lens market,the only way is up for them. I own the 7Art fisheye I use on my Fuji,it`s great value and I`ll have to say very good at what it does. Nice review mate.
Watched it, bought it! It’ll be here tomorrow on Amazon Prime and I’ll use it on my M8. I’ll also try it on my A9 but this feels like it belongs on a Leica, even its a little on the old side...
Be carefull, use this lens only with a Leica M and not the SL2. This lens dont work with the SL2 the lens touches the black surrounding just in front of the SL2 sensor.
Interesting about the SL2, it will however work on the original SL, the Type 601 with very nice results. Now some of these, maybe the earliest versions (not coded) do not always index or lock on the Leica M4
Gin Kenvin I have never used both cameras. Hasselblad X1D ii is a ‘medium format’ camera with a sensor size of 44x33mm, which is comparable to Fuji GFX and Leica S systems. Leica SL2 is a full frame camera. In my opinion, it depends if you love Leica SL or Hasselblad X native lenses. Your best option may be to lend both cameras from your friends or rent them from a camera shop to try them out.
image quality is subjective. or else people wont be paying thousands for old movie lenses. clinical sharp lenses with zero spherical abberation is pretty boring imho
Yeung Marvin to a degree it is subjective though it really depends on what you are imaging and what your looking to achieve with your camera's optics. A good example would be astro, spherical aberration is one of the most detrimental characteristics in a refraction based optical system (lens, or telescope) to an astrophotographer. It's not as noticeable in other forms of photography and may even be desirable to some people like yourself. Most people like myself purchase old glass because the glass in allot of the older lenses is superior to newer stuff on the market and it's less expensive comparatively. Photography is an art form and anything goes, no one can really say one way or another. Whatever gets you off and produces the effect your looking for is whats right for you. I do think most photographers in general find a high degree of spherical and chromatic aberration undesirable though.
well no glass itself is good enough for deepsky imaging. we use a field flattener anyways and even a newtonian can shoot amazing images. Just saying, people especially beginners get too caught up with sharpness and abberation correction, while the best lenses just let them flow. i only replied because you said hes better off with a pentax as it has better image quality, and now you say whatever floats ur boat, so yea, i agree with ur latter comment
@@passcomcompass2623 reflectors are in my opinion better for deep sky because of this. Thus the RC astrographs with hyperboluc mirrors with near perfect imaging charachterists
There are also a few manufacturers offering ed apo with flat fields now as well. But as you are propably already aware these simply have a 4th element built into the refractor that corrects the field
Even if this lens was as good as the zeiss or leica equivalent, and most people probably couldn't tell the difference anyway, people will will still shell out 10k for the leica.
No autofocus (unless you use the TechArt adapter/AF gizmo). But you can focus manually via the EVF with magnification. The lens is sharp enough when stopped down, but the classic wide aperture Sonnar character is the reason for using it. Other lenses are better suited for the “sharp at wide apertures” thing.
New? Isnt it already selling for more than a year? I get, that you are making money through the affiliate link, but dont pretend like it just came out.
I would prefer the Voigtlaender Nokton VM 50 1.2 instead of this lens. Voigtlaender does the control quality in their own house and doesn't transfer it to the customer.
For Sony owners, the Zeiss 55 f/1.8 or 50 /1.4 makes more sense to own. For fun, what is $369 in camera world? Again, take it for what it’s worth and keep in mind that you get what you paid for.
Soft, non-contrasty, lacking pop! What do you expect? You get what you paid for. C’mon now, you have to come in with zero expectations. Otherwise, you’ll be disappointed.
The Noctilux is also very soft wide open and it's 10k dollars lens, not much sharper than this cheap lens. However, I only own the latest 0.95 edition, can't say for other predesessors.
Not too bad doesn't cut it, and considering you maybe don't want to take advantage of workers making this lens in low wage country's, it also gives a taste to it, you might want to avoid?
Please take a look at the 7artisans 35mm f2.
Could you please review the 7artisans 75mm f/1.25 Leica M-mount lens? Thanks!
Compare it with voigtlander please
If you use a Leica lens on a Sony A7riv body using an Voigtlander adapter what are the disadvantages? Do you use loose image quality as using an adapter changes the distance from of the lens from the sensor?
The images were o.k that's all.
The Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 image looked great, how does that Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 look adapted to the Eos R (especially in the purple fringe department) ?
how about compare to Voigtlander 50mm f1.1
Can you use this lens the M Mount version on the Leica SL2-S ? I tryed but it's looks like a 75 mm :-( strange. Or maybe it is better to use the L mount
is the focus shift happening at the change of the apertures or is it introduced by handheld movement?
Will it work with the SL with an adapter? Looks like a cool fun lens to own!
Can't wait for the full review, this is one of the lenses on my list to buy.
How would this lens work on a Leica 246 Monochrome?
i love black and white photo
lol random, but are you downtown phoenix in the art district ?
Did u try this Lens on a medium format camera?
i'm a bit put off by having to calibrate it to my rangefinder
Nice, I have been curious about this lens.
I suppose you could adapt the m-mount of this lens to any other mirrorless, but you will, of course, get whatever comes with adapting to a cropped sensor. 7artisans has other offerings for mirrorless which are quite reasonable and have been well received as well.. trying not to use this term that's been over quoted, but you really do get quite a lot of bang for your buck.
Do you think it is “better” wide open than a Minolta 50 md 1.2 or canon Fd 50 1.2?. I’m thinking on buy this lens to use it on a7iii+techartpro ...
Gustavo Ibarra take a look at the Canon 50mm f1.4 LTM in eBay. It’s just a bit dreamy at f1.4 and pretty damn sharp from f2.8 downward. If you want dreamy the 50mm f1.2 LTM will make you really happy.
All of these have been used through all those years, and to find 2 samples of them that work identically you would have to look a lot.. What I mean is that Minolta MD is like ~30-40 years old and I am sure it wasnt laying 30 years in some safe house somewhere.. It was used and even if you find one in a mint condition it means that it was used anyway at some point.. And just consider the fact that after so many years, there will be dust, fungus and oil separation marks, the coatings wont be in perfect condition etc..
And they go for what, like 400-800usd these days. This one is new, it comes with warranty of some sort, it has better coatings (most likely) it has 12 aperture blades, while most of the fast glass has 8 or 6, pretty common, as far as I know only canon LTM 50m 1,2f and 50mm 0,95 dream lens, and noctilux fast fifties have ~12 or 15 aperture blades. All others ~6-8 so when you stop them down, even to 1,8f or 2f the highlights wont be round anymore and turn in to hexagonal shape.. Which might not be problem at 2,8 or 3,5f, but with these fast lenses you get it 1,8f or 2f..
Rendering is also a big things if you consider between these lenses, this one looks like it has some strange busy looking bokeh wide open and it gets smooth when you stop it down a little.
I give it a try....I didn't really like it. I'm waiting the voigtlander 58 1.4 Sl II that it cost 100 more only...but your points are very valid.
Have it since it was introduced, great piece of glass for the money, wish 7A comes up with a whole range of M lenses
nice consider checking it out, suggestion on a a good M to E adapter? thnx
Attach that to a Techart adapter and you'll have autofocus on it with a Sony camera.
The Emo Emu if it is not too heavy ...
I was waiting your review, thank you! Now I can convince my wife about it :)
What microphone did you use to record this? It sounds very clear.
It's just a rode video mic pro. Thanks!
the 7 artisan lenses are amazing considering there price
Doesn't it hurt the sensor when you keep pointing the lens towards the sun?
Malte Maas it can cook it
All the time you say is insane 365$....Coz the leica lenses is so expensive is not insane 365$ for chinese manual lens!! Is just a good deal for people who can take a good pictures without spend 11k$
...I love that Voigländer 40mm F1.2 :D ...
I’m not a fan of that lens necessarily but in the right light it returns a nice draw. Pretty expensive though.
I`m glad the Chinese are getting into the lens market,the only way is up for them.
I own the 7Art fisheye I use on my Fuji,it`s great value and I`ll have to say very good at what it does.
Nice review mate.
same with the company yungnuo, they have the same stuff as canon's lens line
cheaper things are coming and I am happy with it
Does anyone else have trouble with the lens coming up as "uncoded" on the Leica M240?
My 240 doesn't recognize any "adapted" or hand painted coding. The 7 Artisans comes out as "lens not selected" so it's not recognized.
i´m not a big fan of ultra fast lenses with my rangefinder camera. i use those lenses with my slr´s.
Whats the name of your sunglasses - i like them!
Johny Woodman brand
Watched it, bought it! It’ll be here tomorrow on Amazon Prime and I’ll use it on my M8. I’ll also try it on my A9 but this feels like it belongs on a Leica, even its a little on the old side...
Robert Pearson any feedback:). I have a7iii and techart
@@charruaporelmundo I have a7rv and Leica Mount. But I better like it with my Leica 10P.
Be carefull, use this lens only with a Leica M and not the SL2. This lens dont work with the SL2 the lens touches the black surrounding just in front of the SL2 sensor.
Interesting about the SL2, it will however work on the original SL, the Type 601 with very nice results. Now some of these, maybe the earliest versions (not coded) do not always index or lock on the Leica M4
Does it fit on the SL2 ?
Yes. This lens is Leica M mount. You just need to use a Leica M to L adaptor to mount on SL2
Vince Chu I am still not sure between an Hasselblad X1D ii or a Leica Sl 2. Witch one i am gona buy.
Gin Kenvin I have never used both cameras. Hasselblad X1D ii is a ‘medium format’ camera with a sensor size of 44x33mm, which is comparable to Fuji GFX and Leica S systems. Leica SL2 is a full frame camera. In my opinion, it depends if you love Leica SL or Hasselblad X native lenses. Your best option may be to lend both cameras from your friends or rent them from a camera shop to try them out.
Now I'm inspired to take out my 50/1.5 for a shoot. Oh, and remember 4/29 is international pin hole photography day.
just for the people considering it, silver version is really easy to scratch, but does look cool
Moonraker Deep scratches look cool
Wow !
your better off adapting a $100 Pentax screw mount 50mm f1.4, Ill take image quality over aperture any day of the week!
image quality is subjective. or else people wont be paying thousands for old movie lenses. clinical sharp lenses with zero spherical abberation is pretty boring imho
Yeung Marvin to a degree it is subjective though it really depends on what you are imaging and what your looking to achieve with your camera's optics. A good example would be astro, spherical aberration is one of the most detrimental characteristics in a refraction based optical system (lens, or telescope) to an astrophotographer. It's not as noticeable in other forms of photography and may even be desirable to some people like yourself. Most people like myself purchase old glass because the glass in allot of the older lenses is superior to newer stuff on the market and it's less expensive comparatively. Photography is an art form and anything goes, no one can really say one way or another. Whatever gets you off and produces the effect your looking for is whats right for you. I do think most photographers in general find a high degree of spherical and chromatic aberration undesirable though.
well no glass itself is good enough for deepsky imaging. we use a field flattener anyways and even a newtonian can shoot amazing images. Just saying, people especially beginners get too caught up with sharpness and abberation correction, while the best lenses just let them flow. i only replied because you said hes better off with a pentax as it has better image quality, and now you say whatever floats ur boat, so yea, i agree with ur latter comment
@@passcomcompass2623 reflectors are in my opinion better for deep sky because of this. Thus the RC astrographs with hyperboluc mirrors with near perfect imaging charachterists
There are also a few manufacturers offering ed apo with flat fields now as well. But as you are propably already aware these simply have a 4th element built into the refractor that corrects the field
Looks super soft wide open, and the focus shift seems sketchy. Voigtlander is worth 10 times as much to me personally.
Even if this lens was as good as the zeiss or leica equivalent, and most people probably couldn't tell the difference anyway, people will will still shell out 10k for the leica.
How much does it cost? I don't think you mentioned the price...
Adam G. Manning it is mentioned within the first minute
😂since we trolling😂
Haha!... so I'm not the only one who noticed...?! :-)
That’s what happened when you skip around 😬
That little groove between huffs eyes look like a urethra and his dome head like a glans. Once you see it you can't un-see it. Lens looks good though.
Coding doesn’t work on my M240 :(.
are you sure this lens is sharp? can it use autofocus on A7III?
No autofocus (unless you use the TechArt adapter/AF gizmo). But you can focus manually via the EVF with magnification.
The lens is sharp enough when stopped down, but the classic wide aperture Sonnar character is the reason for using it. Other lenses are better suited for the “sharp at wide apertures” thing.
David Kieltyka lens seems really soft
Lucky Never at f1.4 or slower its a knife.
if you're printing your photos at very large sizes or if you're more worried about pixel peeping that making beautiful photos this lens isn't for you.
I just checked another reviewer , his piece is very soft for any uses
: D I saw BROKEN :D
Some fantastic graffiti on that bottom step....
Isn't putting this lens on an M10 like putting really cheap tires on a Porsche 911? I do understand the concept. You images look really good though.
If you get the cheap tires ‘cuz you like the way they squeal when you turn or brake hard, then yeah. :)
With glass its really not that simple. Good glass can be super cheap. Just take a look at a voigtländer, crazy quality good price.
Tim Leica is expensive because they make limmited amounts
Nice, but an adapted old Nikon 50mm 1.8 pancake is just as good and way cheaper
Richard Seekins not rangefinder coupled though. And of course way slower. But for cameras with live view and in brighter light I totally agree.
Hi Mattias, I'm commenting from a Sony A6000 point of view. Adapting old lenses to it has proven really fun :)
Why tf are you shooting through windows
New? Isnt it already selling for more than a year?
I get, that you are making money through the affiliate link, but dont pretend like it just came out.
I would prefer the Voigtlaender Nokton VM 50 1.2 instead of this lens. Voigtlaender does the control quality in their own house and doesn't transfer it to the customer.
But at more than twice the price. It is a fantastic lens though (the Voigtlander)
That's cheap. In Europe it costs approx. $ 610. Trump must have twist the arm of some chinese export bureau member.
Photographyandcoffee.com what about voiggtlander
Is it just me? I feel perplexed and a bit upset
For Sony owners, the Zeiss 55 f/1.8 or 50 /1.4 makes more sense to own. For fun, what is $369 in camera world? Again, take it for what it’s worth and keep in mind that you get what you paid for.
Now they don't. Don't weigh in on gear you don't own.
Have you used the 7artisans lens? You may be right, but unless you’ve actually used it, opinions like yours are just BS.
86BBUB Just saying and telling the truth.
Josh I don’t plan to own one. Their lenses are for enthusiasts and for play, not for work. I’d rather spend my $370 something else.
You're armchair "truth". I own them all; how about you?
Soft, non-contrasty, lacking pop! What do you expect? You get what you paid for. C’mon now, you have to come in with zero expectations. Otherwise, you’ll be disappointed.
The Noctilux is also very soft wide open and it's 10k dollars lens, not much sharper than this cheap lens. However, I only own the latest 0.95 edition, can't say for other predesessors.
Not too bad doesn't cut it, and considering you maybe don't want to take advantage of workers making this lens in low wage country's, it also gives a taste to it, you might want to avoid?
I don't know why anyone purchases a $4000/ Leica body and use a $400/ lens on that body.
Good things aren’t cheap.
LEGIN 6 Your life probably belongs in the bargin bin
How many times did you say $369.00. So boring!
Those Chinese are so good at reverse engineering and steeling the genius of others.
waste of money