The Counterattack of the division was definitely a disappointment for sure, but even if it had been successful I believe the other beaches could have been held by the Allies till more reinforcements arrived thus making any sort of counterattack useless for the amount of casualties. I would like to see a video about the actions of the 12th SS Panzer for sure.
Hans von Luck discusses in his book Panzer Commander the fury he and other commanders of the 21st Panzer division felt b/cthey weren't permitted by higher HQ to immediately attack the British 6th airborne div forces trying to seize the Orne bridges. The delay was fatal.
@@nastypiglosi1788 If the 21st was properly supported in a coordinated counterattack they could have rolled up more than one beach but the utter indecision at HHQ's was fatal. Doesn't matter anyway, Germany and all of western Europe were saved by D-Day since if it failed the Red Army would have rolled all the way to the Bay of Biscay.
@@bluerock4456 Wow are you ignorant of the tenuous situation of the allied beaches 24-48 hrs after D-Day. Did you even read Von Luck's book or are you yet another sad lonely internet troll on these forums? A coordinated attack that supported the 21st which made it all the way to the sea on its own certainly could have rolled up two beaches. The man wrote a fascinating book try reading it.
@@maciejniedzielski7496 Absolutely. Airpower is a projection force, you hit him before he can hit you. And it's a form of asymetrical warfare. You don't use armor to stop his armor. You use aircraft with bombs and rockets.
Given the crushing air and naval artillery power of the allies any counterattack by un supported German land forces were always doomed. Imagine they did push the fighting to the beaches, battleships would have closed in and annihilated any exposed German tanks and infantry trying to attack.
The Commonwealth beaches certainly took the brunt of German counter attacks on Hitler’s personal orders. This helped tie down most of the German armoured divisions away from the US positions which would allow them to advance towards Cherbourg.
Conversely the US 1st Army giving up on St Lo in June (a June 15th objective), applying little to no pressure there, kept all the panzer divisions in the Caen sector through that entire month, including those newly arrived. This made taking Caen much more difficult.
Monty planned the Battle of Normandy. His strategy was to draw the German armour onto the British & Canadian forces & subject them to a grinding war of attrition. The Poles were also invaluable in this successful endeavour.
In Salerno a counterattack was thwarted because of naval gunfire support. In Sicily his stopped even Tigers.The Germans simply could not match that firepower. At Normandy the Allied fleet should have been driven away by the Luftwaffe to clear the beachhead but because of allied air and naval supremacy all they could was try to contain the beachhead just like at Anzio but the terrain was not favorable just like the odds against them
Canadians I believe, they never get respect due for Normandy and rest of WW2 , the Royal Canadian Navy contributed enormously to defeat of U Boats in North Atlantic
Of all the videos re Normandy apart from being ad nauseum in number all prove one thing: Rommel was the only commander who was proven right in his assessment. Additionally the Luftwaffe would have had to at least attempt to achieve local air parity and target the ships supporting the landing. The other option would have been to blanket the landings with V2 rockets if they were operational at that time. However Rommel‘s strategy was still the most hopeful for if sufficient forces were available close to the landings in the first 24 hours then at least a repeat of the Anzio landings could have been achieved, and at best, thrown back into the sea. This would have only delayed the inevitable as the Western allies would have landed in the south ( Dragoon ) while the bulk of German forces dealt with Normandy.
Another wonderful historical coverage shared by an excellent ( war academy)of that whole disappointed military situation of German defensives during overlord operations of alliance against Axis power's ...I think Germans 21 th Panzer division failed in its counterattack because it's not reached its objectives..while it's notable that Panzer division was suffered from lacks of decisive firepowers in several kings of weapons ( Artillery- air defense machine guns and tanks numbers)...that meant the task was much heavier than what found below theirs hands rather than Lowftwafa absent in that decisive moments....thank you (war academy) channel ....good luck and best wishes for you and your wonderful channel 8:55
I'm not disappointed by the attack. In fact I'm ecstatic that this was the best they could do. Would you rather they had been better organised, better equipped and successful in isolating Sword Beach. Because, you know, the war would have cost more lives and the camps would have killed more people.
The actions taken by Goring were simply ridiculous, this guy was sleeping in his boots? Even if his fighters were 1:3 in numbers against allies it would have matter to distract them in fighting german armour. Also it seems they didn't have a proper plan to repell allies. Probably the french wine was their real enemy. They were all drunk and couldn't put up a proper plan
Well it’s easier for armchair warrior to bash Goring and his Luftwaffe for their inaction during Normandy landing. They didn’t do diddly squat because they couldn’t, not because they were lazy or being cowards
@@aps125 The army is as it's leader not more not less. They lost faith in Goring, it wasn't a general anymore but a person interested in art collections, hunting and eating, war was of secondary imprtance to him. I wonder why he hadn't been dismissed since 42 when it was obvious the man had other hobbies.
My friend, PC game is one, but real life is always different. Imagine: you are a german comander and you dont know what was happened and where to attack. From this point of view, I will attack british flanks, but that not mean I will win the battle. Because, that is just one way what to do on the front.
Morning ch of failure of German Panzer Divisions can be attributed to lack of the second Panzer Battalion of Panthers, at Kursk none of 3 SS Psnzer Divs had their Panther Battslion the only one of Mk 3 and 4s , same for 21st Panzer at Normandy as their second Battalion was in Germany collecting their Panthers
Erwin Rommel's original intent was that all available armoured units were to attack at once, thus making Allied attempts at blocking his assault, more difficult. Hitler's interference, made this impossible.
Panzer divisions responded to counterattacked furiously. They had not sufficient logistical supporters ?and had Lowftwafa coverage and air support? ... 9:07
Rubbish. Starting from early 1945. Yeah maybe. But in June 1944 the Wehrmacht was stil a very powerful fighting force with enough battle hardened veterans and enough experience.
General Speidel sent Rommel home to Brithday for his wife and immediately sabotaged the defense! Speidel was as british spy! When Rommel returned to Normandy he allieds had landed and everything was lost.
While I do appreciate your content and it is informative, I urge you to use proper army designations on your maps to various types of armed forces, such as Armour, infantry, engineers, etc...
The Japanese were smarter. They knew defence of the beach was difficult. So in oikanawa they used a different tactic. They allowed the Allies to land ,let them think there were no Japanese soldiers. Then when a huge number of troops accumulated and entered the kill zones they attacked from all sides
KG Rauch should have attacked Sword from the rear once they reached the coast and attacked the landings as this would have disrupted the resupply of the beaches this would have as they should have already known stopped the landings fortunately KG Rauch did not take the initiative for even a small resistance with tanks would have stopped the invasion!
The other thing I would note on this is I believe the Germans were dealing with the Bocage. And what happened to them was a portent of what was to come for the allies across the front. Narrow lanes hemmed in by huge hedgerows. If you went into the fields you had to exit at choke points, if you stayed in the lanes there was no room for manoeuvre or deployment and there was an ambush at every corner.
Edgar freutanger who was in Paris on the drink , Iv actually got a small wooden box inscribed 21st panzer division happy birthday Edgar freutenger , all for Germany , the story goes this box was found in Caen in a loft not sure when
At this point in the war, the Red Army already kicked Hitlers ass in spades. Not to downplay or dismiss the fighting that the US, British and Canadian troops had to endure to conclude the war, but the Red Army would have steam rolled the Nazi's into the sea at Normandy given enough time to finish the job. The main reason Stalin wanted the Invasion in the West was because his people had already suffered enough defeating the Nazi's and just wanted some help.
Bollocks. The logistical support provided to the Soviets by their Western Allies helped turn the tide. Thousands of sailors died on the convoys and you dismiss their sacrifice like it was nothing.
Nope. The Germans deployed the densest concentration of armour they ever sent anywhere in WW2. 7 panzer divisions and 3 Tiger battalions just around Caen. The Red Army never had to face 7 panzer divisions just to get to one town. Circa 2,500 German tanks, assault guns and tank were deployed to Normandy in a very restrictive area of frontage. In contrast they only deployed around 1,300 in Operation Bagration which took place over a far larger area of frontage. The Soviets would have fared worse in Normandy, with far higher casualties. Even when defending at Kursk they still lost 4 times as many tanks as the Germans.
Stalin asked for help? What help did Stalin give Britain in 1939 to June 1941, by the way? You know, when British towns and cities were being bombed by the Luftwaffe and German U-boats were trying to cut Britain off at sea.
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The Counterattack of the division was definitely a disappointment for sure, but even if it had been successful I believe the other beaches could have been held by the Allies till more reinforcements arrived thus making any sort of counterattack useless for the amount of casualties. I would like to see a video about the actions of the 12th SS Panzer for sure.
Nah mate half were ruskies
Hans von Luck discusses in his book Panzer Commander the fury he and other commanders of the 21st Panzer division felt b/cthey weren't permitted by higher HQ to immediately attack the British 6th airborne div forces trying to seize the Orne bridges. The delay was fatal.
Retaking one of the five beaches would have only delayed the Allied victory.
@@nastypiglosi1788 yep it could be 6th june 1945 end of the war
@@nastypiglosi1788 If the 21st was properly supported in a coordinated counterattack they could have rolled up more than one beach but the utter indecision at HHQ's was fatal. Doesn't matter anyway, Germany and all of western Europe were saved by D-Day since if it failed the Red Army would have rolled all the way to the Bay of Biscay.
@@alexfromboston8303'rolled up more than one beach'? Hahahahahahaha, no.
@@bluerock4456 Wow are you ignorant of the tenuous situation of the allied beaches 24-48 hrs after D-Day. Did you even read Von Luck's book or are you yet another sad lonely internet troll on these forums? A coordinated attack that supported the 21st which made it all the way to the sea on its own certainly could have rolled up two beaches. The man wrote a fascinating book try reading it.
Yes please make a video on the 12 SS Devision and the actions of the 21st division was underwhelming
The failure of the 21 panzer division to repel the British allowed the build up of allied troops and helped to guarantee Overlords success.....
@WarvAcademy your maps included in video help a lot understanding situation in Normandy
PLEASE do a video on the Fallschirm-Panzer Division Hermann Göring that would be amazing!!!
I doubt a single panzer division, no matter how well equipped, could have stopped the Allied landings and their advance into the French countryside.
That's right. Airpower was on allied side.
@@maciejniedzielski7496 Absolutely. Airpower is a projection force, you hit him before he can hit you. And it's a form of asymetrical warfare. You don't use armor to stop his armor. You use aircraft with bombs and rockets.
Naval power too - German panzer veterans talk about the devastating and accurate Naval fire the Allies would call in.
@@chrisschultz8598 Just as in North Africa you don't use tanks to charge Flak 88's, you use artillery and air power.
And boy did the Americans learn that at Kassarine.
Given the crushing air and naval artillery power of the allies any counterattack by un supported German land forces were always doomed.
Imagine they did push the fighting to the beaches, battleships would have closed in and annihilated any exposed German tanks and infantry trying to attack.
I enjoyed the part where the German commander made his own 'assault' in Paris. Hope she was worth it.
The Commonwealth beaches certainly took the brunt of German counter attacks on Hitler’s personal orders. This helped tie down most of the German armoured divisions away from the US positions which would allow them to advance towards Cherbourg.
Conversely the US 1st Army giving up on St Lo in June (a June 15th objective), applying little to no pressure there, kept all the panzer divisions in the Caen sector through that entire month, including those newly arrived. This made taking Caen much more difficult.
Monty planned the Battle of Normandy. His strategy was to draw the German armour onto the British & Canadian forces & subject them to a grinding war of attrition. The Poles were also invaluable in this successful endeavour.
@@bluerock4456 Yes, the poles played a pivotal role in closing the Falaise Pocket against over a dozen German divisions.
Great work thanks!!!
In Salerno a counterattack was thwarted because of naval gunfire support. In Sicily his stopped even Tigers.The Germans simply could not match that firepower. At Normandy the Allied fleet should have been driven away by the Luftwaffe to clear the beachhead but because of allied air and naval supremacy all they could was try to contain the beachhead just like at Anzio but the terrain was not favorable just like the odds against them
the brits ambushed them and won a significant victory!
Canadians I believe, they never get respect due for Normandy and rest of WW2 , the Royal Canadian Navy contributed enormously to defeat of U Boats in North Atlantic
Of all the videos re Normandy apart from being ad nauseum in number all prove one thing: Rommel was the only commander who was proven right in his assessment.
Additionally the Luftwaffe would have had to at least attempt to achieve local air parity and target the ships supporting the landing.
The other option would have been to blanket the landings with V2 rockets if they were operational at that time.
However Rommel‘s strategy was still the most hopeful for if sufficient forces were available close to the landings in the first 24 hours then at least a repeat of the Anzio landings could have been achieved, and at best, thrown back into the sea.
This would have only delayed the inevitable as the Western allies would have landed in the south ( Dragoon ) while the bulk of German forces dealt with Normandy.
Good history Channel
12thSS kept it open for a long time
They were tougher than tough.
@@hansgruber650 They were fanatics who could not hold their own.
@@davidhoward4715 Someone steered you wrong son.
The struggle between 12 SS and 3rd Canadian Infantry around Caen was epic.
@@hansgruber650They lost, however, to the citizen-soldiers of the Allies.
Another wonderful historical coverage shared by an excellent ( war academy)of that whole disappointed military situation of German defensives during overlord operations of alliance against Axis power's ...I think Germans 21 th Panzer division failed in its counterattack because it's not reached its objectives..while it's notable that Panzer division was suffered from lacks of decisive firepowers in several kings of weapons ( Artillery- air defense machine guns and tanks numbers)...that meant the task was much heavier than what found below theirs hands rather than Lowftwafa absent in that decisive moments....thank you (war academy) channel ....good luck and best wishes for you and your wonderful channel 8:55
I'm not disappointed by the attack. In fact I'm ecstatic that this was the best they could do. Would you rather they had been better organised, better equipped and successful in isolating Sword Beach. Because, you know, the war would have cost more lives and the camps would have killed more people.
To be fair, he used the word in quotation. I think he meant disappointing from the German point of view
Yes
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The actions taken by Goring were simply ridiculous, this guy was sleeping in his boots? Even if his fighters were 1:3 in numbers against allies it would have matter to distract them in fighting german armour. Also it seems they didn't have a proper plan to repell allies. Probably the french wine was their real enemy. They were all drunk and couldn't put up a proper plan
Well it’s easier for armchair warrior to bash Goring and his Luftwaffe for their inaction during Normandy landing. They didn’t do diddly squat because they couldn’t, not because they were lazy or being cowards
@@aps125 The army is as it's leader not more not less. They lost faith in Goring, it wasn't a general anymore but a person interested in art collections, hunting and eating, war was of secondary imprtance to him. I wonder why he hadn't been dismissed since 42 when it was obvious the man had other hobbies.
I do believe that Goering was pooping in his boots, because he ate so dang much that all of his waste had to go somewhere
5.00 "thus" :D
Yes sir I would, I believe that they could and they were uncoordinated to do what they needed to do.
I won this battle time and time again on hell let loose, I can’t believe they couldn’t do it!
XD
U talking Utah or Omaha? These were yankee's not tommy's
@@mika500 I was joking but I was thinking of Omaha
My friend, PC game is one, but real life is always different. Imagine: you are a german comander and you dont know what was happened and where to attack. From this point of view, I will attack british flanks, but that not mean I will win the battle. Because, that is just one way what to do on the front.
@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh it’s a joke hilfsfolk
Von Luck's book is a good read. He describes what happened to the German armour.
My grandad was is this unit as a private ,he surrended to the British ,at the age of 20
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Morning ch of failure of German Panzer Divisions can be attributed to lack of the second Panzer Battalion of Panthers, at Kursk none of 3 SS Psnzer Divs had their Panther Battslion the only one of Mk 3 and 4s , same for 21st Panzer at Normandy as their second Battalion was in Germany collecting their Panthers
Erwin Rommel's original intent was that all available armoured units were to attack at once, thus making Allied attempts at blocking his assault, more difficult. Hitler's interference, made this impossible.
Certainly without any air support.
Panzer divisions responded to counterattacked furiously. They had not sufficient logistical supporters ?and had Lowftwafa coverage and air support? ... 9:07
90 tanks to one sector?? not to mention the other beaches talk about a suicide March
Most of the Germans were children.
Rubbish. Starting from early 1945. Yeah maybe. But in June 1944 the Wehrmacht was stil a very powerful fighting force with enough battle hardened veterans and enough experience.
@Trust-m12th ss was mostly 17 and 18yrs old.
Where was the German Air Force? The Germans were toast when the Allied Air Forces attacked them.
General Speidel sent Rommel home to Brithday for his wife and immediately sabotaged the defense! Speidel was as british spy! When Rommel returned to Normandy he allieds had landed and everything was lost.
Rommel's wife was born much earlier in the year. Rommel went home to plot.
While I do appreciate your content and it is informative, I urge you to use proper army designations on your maps to various types of armed forces, such as Armour, infantry, engineers, etc...
Um, the maps are in Spanish.
This is AI slop content, I wouldn’t hold your breath for it improving.
The Japanese were smarter. They knew defence of the beach was difficult. So in oikanawa they used a different tactic. They allowed the Allies to land ,let them think there were no Japanese soldiers. Then when a huge number of troops accumulated and entered the kill zones they attacked from all sides
KG Rauch should have attacked Sword from the rear once they reached the coast and attacked the landings as this would have disrupted the resupply of the beaches this would have as they should have already known stopped the landings fortunately KG Rauch did not take the initiative for even a small resistance with tanks would have stopped the invasion!
by this stage of war germany was scared of own shadow, incapable of taking initiative, seems crazy they go to coast only to turn around again.
The other thing I would note on this is I believe the Germans were dealing with the Bocage. And what happened to them was a portent of what was to come for the allies across the front. Narrow lanes hemmed in by huge hedgerows. If you went into the fields you had to exit at choke points, if you stayed in the lanes there was no room for manoeuvre or deployment and there was an ambush at every corner.
RIP heiliges Deutschland ❤
Another selfish idiot who wants all of the language in anglosajón. All of the languages are correct to explain the situation
Lip sync issues are disheartening
Lip sync? What are you on about?
@@davidhoward4715 Your physical audio words don’t match your visual mouth movements. To me, it always seems “off”. Drives me crazy. Sorry.
Edgar freutanger who was in Paris on the drink , Iv actually got a small wooden box inscribed 21st panzer division happy birthday Edgar freutenger , all for Germany , the story goes this box was found in Caen in a loft not sure when
It's depressing that we (the English) murdered our German brothers, knowing they were right
You fucking what ?
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too late to the show
At this point in the war, the Red Army already kicked Hitlers ass in spades. Not to downplay or dismiss the fighting that the US, British and Canadian troops had to endure to conclude the war, but the Red Army would have steam rolled the Nazi's into the sea at Normandy given enough time to finish the job. The main reason Stalin wanted the Invasion in the West was because his people had already suffered enough defeating the Nazi's and just wanted some help.
Bollocks. The logistical support provided to the Soviets by their Western Allies helped turn the tide. Thousands of sailors died on the convoys and you dismiss their sacrifice like it was nothing.
Nope. The Germans deployed the densest concentration of armour they ever sent anywhere in WW2. 7 panzer divisions and 3 Tiger battalions just around Caen. The Red Army never had to face 7 panzer divisions just to get to one town.
Circa 2,500 German tanks, assault guns and tank were deployed to Normandy in a very restrictive area of frontage.
In contrast they only deployed around 1,300 in Operation Bagration which took place over a far larger area of frontage.
The Soviets would have fared worse in Normandy, with far higher casualties.
Even when defending at Kursk they still lost 4 times as many tanks as the Germans.
Stalin asked for help? What help did Stalin give Britain in 1939 to June 1941, by the way? You know, when British towns and cities were being bombed by the Luftwaffe and German U-boats were trying to cut Britain off at sea.
@@lyndoncmp5751 If they deployed so many tanks why they didn't win? Perhaps they were drunk with french wine?
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Because the allies had even more tanks, could easily replace their losses and had air superiority.