@@occultvisuals is that game time played or just time spent loading up a match lol 😅. Same here bro. I got home from work yesterday and before I knew it it was 1030 pm.
@@yashpatel1460 The trader limit screws it up, people just buy out the max amount each reset and sell it for triple. If you try to lower the price by a decent bit then people buy that out and simply resell it for more. I spent 20mil messing around with it and while some ppl follow the flow and undercut just to undercut, the masses will just resell it for a profit. If they removed the supply limit it would reduce the demand and cause the price to stay closer to the trader value.
@@clevername1349 Yes but they need to increase the stocks. Player base has exponentially grown in the last month but the stocks have stayed the same, you can see the issue.
Ony reason (imo) to use tracers is as mag indicators. For example: loading your last 5 rounds in a 30 round mag to be tracers. That way you know to reload without checking, potentially saving you from getting shot at while checking
this would be more usable if you could reload "templates" of rounds that you can bind to keys as a macro kinda thing. Could even do ammo ratios in mags (50/50 pen/dmg) if you want to do something like that.
YbJQ or you’re broke and they have certain tracers have good pen and are cheaper than non tracer variants (5.45 BT, the 7n61t and m856a1 all are budget rounds which have decent pen but are tracers
Ammo is the "invisible" gold sink of Tarkov. It can be SO expensive and it's so risky running high-tier ammo considering you can just get 1 tapped ANYWAY and lose 3-4 mags worth a few hundred K ... I try to stay mid-range in ammo, buying the "2nd best" mostly since the price difference is sometimes 4x or more. But i am just poor, so that's that.
I'm still grinding to lvl 5. I'm only 2 weeks into the game, but am excited to access the flea market and start getting decent ammo. Love the videos man. Appreciate it.
Cheers Pestily! I havent played Tarkov since 0.4 and ive forgotten alot of stuff since then and reading is totally different to having someone explaining it. Much appreciated!!
Love the videos man. I love your dedication to educating others on this game, it’s actually inspired me to make a video series charting my progress as I learn the game and start getting better in the hopes of showing people that if you just stick to it and keep learning you can have fun playing this game
Great video! I reckon to make these types of guide even better, you should contextualise every piece of advice relative to player levels/parts of the game. Like, we can all see that the high-tier ammo is better than the low tier ammo, but what's alot more difficult to determine as a newer player is what ammo types are cost effective at each level range. It would be great to hear things like: "At level 1-10, you're only gonna have L1 traders, so i would recommend running 5.45 guns or shotguns because..." "You should then be prioritising this trader because once you get to levels 10-15 you can switch over to 5.56 with the ADAR and get the m885 round.." "Once you reach level 20 you have the option to switch over to M80 rounds with ... " Etc etc. (Note I just made up these examples and are obviously inaccurate, but I hope you get the idea! Contextualising this information relative to how far a player has progressed is more important than going over every single ammunition type in isolation. By the time a player unlocks alot of these high-tier ammo types they probably know most of this stuff anyway!! :)
the ASh-12 seriously needs a rework, honestly all of the "meta" rounds need to be reworked because controlling the amount you can purchase just sucks and doesn't stop price hikes
Pestily you have really overlooked the SP-5 round, it is a hidden gem. Yes its the "worst" pen'ing of the 9x39 ammo, but it is still an excellent round: penetrates like BT, damage on par with 9mm blue tip. Its stupid cheap at 142r and its unlocked at Prapor 2 so almost everyone can buy it at the trader price in unlimited quantities. On top of that you get to use it from a great budget platform, VSS is around 40k including the suppressor. VSS + SP5 is the best poor mans kit by a mile imo. To put it in perspective a suppressed smg with AP6.3x120 will cost ~140k, a VSS with SP5x120 will cost ~60k. The SP5 will cut through level 4 armor like butter and is still "ok" vs level 5, meanwhile 9mm must go for headshots.
I, a humble noob, dedicate my next "In-Raid" death in honour of your continued guidance and entertainment. A sacrifice that surely won't take lo........
M80 doesn't one tap in the chest anymore since it's been nerfed. Bullets incur damage reduction as they penetrate armor. Even lvl 3 armor is enough to stop it from one-tapping, since m80 does exactly 80 damage, if the armor stops 0.1 damage you're gonna do 79.9 damage and you're not going to oneshot.
@Pestily Yesss. more testing video's :) but he's right Pest, the m80 round being 80damage and only 41 pen (down from 45) really did hurt the round from one tapping PMC's. Most low effective durability class 3's will still have a highest chance at one tapping but the armor to test will be the Zhuk-3 Press which has the highest effective durability for class three since using Ultrahighweight polyethylene material. (Ultrapoly) Test the M80 round vs Class 4 trooper armor (highest effective durability class 4) and it will reduce the m80 damage vs a full 70/70 trooper by about 25-30 damage. If you would like to know more, I have a quick table to show the effective material durability modifiers linked below. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l__L9OKMgaQwYgSstwvARAO7vifvKMquWmM21f7_dXk Fort and Redut T5 Armor received a solid nerf recently due to combined materials modifier changing from 0.50 to 0.65... no idea why but it pretty much makes Killa's class 5 armor one of the best in the game. One round you could test with a few others is the 7BT1 ammo, one round blacks out a leg or arm..the remaining damage reduces all limbs\chest by about 3-4 points. This means if you do black out a leg or arm, the next round can one tap the chest even if they have full 68/68 gen4 assault. The round being 78 flesh and 59 pen makes it one of the most underrated rounds for destroying players currently in EFT at close or long range. So many players don't heal the chest to full 80 after taking some damage which makes the 7BT1 shine even more. totally understand if this is too long didn't read. ;)
Well it's pretty simple... If you open a trader that has just reset, and he's already out of stock of X ammo type, then you know, that's the ammo you want to buy. On the fleamarket for a 300% markup xD
Now that we are in a different patch and new ammo is added do you think its possible to do another one of these guides? Also possible to do a new armor guide unless you still stand by your old one? I love this guide and love your content!
I don't know about when this video was made but frag chance definitely matters now. The majority of my deaths are from fragmentation. I had a guy shoot me in the arm with a slug and it one tapped me because it fragged.
For me a beginner, I find hunter+ M80 and Aks + PS 7.62 the most success. Personally, I find 7.62 ammo better than 5.56 in the early games . However It domes comes with more recoil, I just tap fire.
i use the best rounds like m955 and m61 but i craft them in my hideout only which makes them like 40-50% cheaper then flea market. workbench lvl 3 doesnt take too long so id recommend getting it sooner than later
For 5.45x39 i would always go with BT over BP. The price isn't really an issue since you can find 120 pcs. BT ammo packs on reserve quite easily and if you put nothing into your gamma besides the ammo, you'll leave with almost 500 rounds per raid.
bs seems to be the over all best round, but idk about pricing. i've played the game for quite a while so prices are mute to me, but i do remember the struggle.
@@Dante_S550_Turbo I'm strictly talking about BT vs. BP here. BS is the best overall performance but very expensive. If you want to go for budget runs without sacrificing too much performance BT is the best choice since you can get heaps of it pretty much for free.
I feel 9x19 RIP and CCI are underrated, especially with how high the price of AP6.3 is getting. Run them through something with a high rate of fire like an MP-9N, and you can shred people. Been having tons of fun and success on factory with them recently. Leg meta like the good old days.
cci was so much better pre 12.0. It seems like armor dmg % has become wonky. CCI use to be better if you were fighting high tier armor no 9x19 ammo could pen because cci would break it before 6.3 ap could. now it takes 1-2 bullets more for cci to break armor vs 6.3 and the charts never changed so i have no fkn clue wtf happened. I think they went from armor dmg values to % values and that fucked it up maybe? or maybe frag chance was working on armor idk.
I want to see a PPSH in the game it fires the 7.62x25mm round and it has an extremely high fire rate Pestily@ maybe that was the full auto gun you thought was coming into the game, love your vids keep them up they really help.
One thing that i would have liked to hear in the beginning of this video was why you made a new ammo video. Did they change stuff in .2 or did you just want to make a new vid for ammo since you havent done that in a while?
id say theres an obvious difference between sp6 and spp. spp has quite a bit more flesh dmg which makes a difference. ofc sp6 is still a good round and cheaper but it really isnt THAT much cheaper. bp isnt worth it though
When making these type of videos, would you be able to put images of the gun that the caliber of the ammo it uses with it? It makes visualizing which ammo goes with with specific gun easier.
Yep I'll add to my to do list to get a screen shot of every gun in the game saved for this in the future (i'm starting to build a database for this reason)
@@connors5543 I have seen that, but in most cases I still like to check with the dealer prices and compare since the market can fluctuate with the players not knowing they are charging more than dealers. Always good to do a quick check.
Im lvl 22 I dont have load sof spare cash in tarkov so blowing 100-200k per raid on ammo alone just isnt an option. I always tend to run AK 74 (can get the plum one from prapor for less than 10k worth of bog roll and toothpaste) with modest mods; rubber but, polymer handguard, lvl 2 skier muzzle device and a pk06 filled with PP ammo. Nobody ever seems to mention PP, but when I look at the tables the pen value and damage seem ok and it's very cheap. Just over 100R from prapor IIRC. Most of the time when I get killed its not in a straight one on one fight and I'm happy enough dumping full mags of pp into people as that's only 3-4kRub. Can any experienced players elaborate as to whether I'm doing something that makes sense or not.
@@MeatbagTTV Oh, you're right. Thanks for clarifying. Now I'm interested in the details on ricochet mechanics too... Guess I better stop being lazy and look it up.
When you buy a drum mag for the pistol of that caliber (the PM maybe ?) it's indicated in the dexcription that it's for PM and PPSH, so I think there is a good chance that it's added in the futur
How does the damage work in regards to penetrating armour? For example say i have 5.45x39mm BS ammunition going against a class 4 armour. Will it do the whole damage amount (40dmg) or reduced slightly from the armour? Also, the armor damage % in the table, does that mean that it will do 57% of the damage value to the armour?
@@dungang4100 ricochet is the round hitting and deflecting. AFAIK this does not damage you. Fragmentation chance is only when the bullet has already penetrated and is supposed to simulate the chance for the bullet to fragment into smaller parts or tumble on it's axis, both cause increased flesh damage.
I’ve had really good experiences with the Flucette or fucking whatever. In 3 raids about 1.3 million doubles worth of stuff just from factory. Never went in with armor or anything.
Tarkov made me look at guns like swords when it comes to ammo. The gun is your swords hilt and handle but the thing your doing damage with is the swords blade or rather your guns bullets. You wouldnt want to take on monster with a dull blade right?
I agree ammo is the key. Once I've played as a scav and had some sniper rifle - I tried to kill another scav player shooting at him from distance using scope like 7-8 times and ques what? - nothing!!! Then he killed me when he finally realized where I am...
Wish they woulda made m995 atleast 800 a round not 1000 so it’s balanced where people who want to use it can’t feel that bad and those who like 500 and under ammo won’t use it
@@rusduderus it sure is I mix most my magazines now since ammo is so scarce and expensive For 60 rounder mags you could do 10 of each round e.g. (10 m855a1 and then 10 995 , 10x855a1, 10xm995, etc.) Just remember that ammo you put in last will be the first to feed in the gun
I load 9x19 RIP in my mp5 and i f'ing wrecks everything that comes in my way even though it has almost zero pen... and i also noticed it became more expensive every time i buy a stack of it...
im confused, the chart shows SNB having better pen against higher level armor than 7N1, so why is 7N1 still considered meta for a bolt action sniper, but SNB for semi auto. So shouldn't the higher pen be more optimized for any scenario of this caliber? Especially if trying to get through decent levell armor and face shields, if someone is able to explain why 7N1 is more meta I'd appreciate it a lot. Just trying to figure out what ammo to be running, while getting the most bang for my buck.
I run SNB no matter what especially late game. Even if I dont 1 tap with SNB my targets armor is trashed and they are not feeling like returning fire because they took serious damage. 7N1 shooting an armored target may not pen enough and your target is more likely to stand and fight back sooner. So, if anything SNB in bolt guns and 7N1 in SVD.
how does flechette 28 pen have more armour effectiveness then the ap20? am i missing something? or is it like each round that it fires do that amount like x7
For me best 12 gauge is Magnum buckshot. Its shreds armor to peaces. One tap scavs in cheest or long headshot. Ap-20 was disaster for. It doesnt one tap scav. May be its going through hands first.... I dont know.
was in a fight with a guy with a SVD thermals, and eventually he pushed me and we traded shots face to face and he hit me in my altyn around 3 times and i dropped him, turns out he had 7n37.....70 pen and didnt manage to pen
Now you would have to ask NoFAM about this but there would be a chance to ricochet each shot off your helmet / face shield. I don't know if ammos have an internal equation to increase the chance of this, that is something you would have to ask NoFAM but i guess if there is a % of 3x ricochet then he got extremely unlucky
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12 gauge: 4:00
20 gauge: 6:12
9x18mm: 6:45
7.62x25mm: 7:42
9x19mm: 8:13
9x21mm: 9:09
5.7x28mm: 9:19
4.6x30mm: 10:10
9x39mm: 11:08
.366: 11:51
5.45x39mm: 12:20
5.56x45mm: 14:11
7.62x39mm: 15:17
7.62x51mm: 16:09
7.62x54r: 17:53
12.7x55mm: 19:42
GET THIS TO TOP !
The real hero of Tarkov
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@@Pestily Thanks for everything man. You've built a wonderful community. Just doing my part to give back a little bit :)
Hero stuff right here.
I bought this game 3 weeks ago.
It has taken over life.
Coffee Fresh same ice put in 190 hours in 3 and half weeks
@@occultvisuals is that game time played or just time spent loading up a match lol 😅.
Same here bro. I got home from work yesterday and before I knew it it was 1030 pm.
not even jokin dude im in the same postion, cannot stop playing it.
I am in a similar situation, it's been about 3 weeks and literally 8+ hours a day when I can but that's not all in-raid time
Preach boys, we all need a Tarkov rehab!
12g 3:45
20g 6:16
9x18 6:49
7.62x25mm 7:41
9x19 8:14
9x21 9:10
5.7x28mm 9:18
4.6x30mm 10:10
9x39mm 11:07
.366 11:51
5.45x39mm 12:21
5.56x45mm 14:11
7.62x39mm 15:18
7.62x51mm 16:11
7.62x54R 17:50
12.7x55mm 19:38
12g - 3:46
20g - 6:17
9x18 - 6:48
7.62x25mm -7:50
9x19 - 8:13
5.7x28mm - 9:19
4.6x30mm - 10:14
9x39mm - 11:13
.366 - 11:51
5.45x39mm - 12:22
5.56x45mm - 14:24
7.62x39mm - 15:31
7.62x51mm - 16:11
7.62x54R - 17:49
12.7x55mm - 19:38
Gods work
Can't wait to buy this ammo at 3x the price tomorrow!
Rad its such a shame that people have 100mil + money and still cant lower the ammo price.
m855a1 is stupid expensive because of people exploiting skier lvl 4 price. People buy it for 200~ a round and re sell for 700~
@@yashpatel1460 The trader limit screws it up, people just buy out the max amount each reset and sell it for triple. If you try to lower the price by a decent bit then people buy that out and simply resell it for more. I spent 20mil messing around with it and while some ppl follow the flow and undercut just to undercut, the masses will just resell it for a profit. If they removed the supply limit it would reduce the demand and cause the price to stay closer to the trader value.
@@Deviant-Blades Then there would be no point in "lower level" ammo. Supply limit is what actually allows for an economy for higher tier ammo.
@@clevername1349 Yes but they need to increase the stocks. Player base has exponentially grown in the last month but the stocks have stayed the same, you can see the issue.
Ony reason (imo) to use tracers is as mag indicators. For example: loading your last 5 rounds in a 30 round mag to be tracers. That way you know to reload without checking, potentially saving you from getting shot at while checking
this would be more usable if you could reload "templates" of rounds that you can bind to keys as a macro kinda thing.
Could even do ammo ratios in mags (50/50 pen/dmg) if you want to do something like that.
YbJQ or you’re broke and they have certain tracers have good pen and are cheaper than non tracer variants (5.45 BT, the 7n61t and m856a1 all are budget rounds which have decent pen but are tracers
That's what I do, first I load some tracers as "mag empty"-indicators, a few flesh dmg rounds and a whole heap of BP or what ever else with high pen.
Dexstrat you and the point are in different time zones
andrew sheng no they aren’t, he’s saying the only reason to use tracers. ONLY. I’m stating another reason.
Man I would be so lost in this game without you guys doing all that research. Thank you for all the works and great guides!
Ammo is the "invisible" gold sink of Tarkov. It can be SO expensive and it's so risky running high-tier ammo considering you can just get 1 tapped ANYWAY and lose 3-4 mags worth a few hundred K ...
I try to stay mid-range in ammo, buying the "2nd best" mostly since the price difference is sometimes 4x or more. But i am just poor, so that's that.
I'm still grinding to lvl 5. I'm only 2 weeks into the game, but am excited to access the flea market and start getting decent ammo. Love the videos man. Appreciate it.
Two weeks into the game and not level 5? How much do you get to play per week?
Dude you do so much for the community and you seem like you try your best to help new players get into the game. You need more subs.
Your better than Google for tarkov advice. Please keep the videos coming
Cheers Pestily! I havent played Tarkov since 0.4 and ive forgotten alot of stuff since then and reading is totally different to having someone explaining it. Much appreciated!!
Love the videos man. I love your dedication to educating others on this game, it’s actually inspired me to make a video series charting my progress as I learn the game and start getting better in the hopes of showing people that if you just stick to it and keep learning you can have fun playing this game
Great video! I reckon to make these types of guide even better, you should contextualise every piece of advice relative to player levels/parts of the game.
Like, we can all see that the high-tier ammo is better than the low tier ammo, but what's alot more difficult to determine as a newer player is what ammo types are cost effective at each level range.
It would be great to hear things like:
"At level 1-10, you're only gonna have L1 traders, so i would recommend running 5.45 guns or shotguns because..."
"You should then be prioritising this trader because once you get to levels 10-15 you can switch over to 5.56 with the ADAR and get the m885 round.."
"Once you reach level 20 you have the option to switch over to M80 rounds with ... "
Etc etc.
(Note I just made up these examples and are obviously inaccurate, but I hope you get the idea! Contextualising this information relative to how far a player has progressed is more important than going over every single ammunition type in isolation. By the time a player unlocks alot of these high-tier ammo types they probably know most of this stuff anyway!!
:)
That's the 1-40 gear guide which is on my to do list to update. I go over which gear to use at which level with which ammo. It's coming soon!
@@Pestily Hell yes! Look forward to it.
Every French person cringing when Pestily says "fleshetty"
Every normal person cringing when he says that
guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud
For those wondering, we call that "Fleshett" rounds in French :) (that's how we say it, not how we write it)
Don't worry bud we're used to it by now :)
Say it as Fletch-et
the ASh-12 seriously needs a rework, honestly all of the "meta" rounds need to be reworked because controlling the amount you can purchase just sucks and doesn't stop price hikes
Pestily you have really overlooked the SP-5 round, it is a hidden gem. Yes its the "worst" pen'ing of the 9x39 ammo, but it is still an excellent round: penetrates like BT, damage on par with 9mm blue tip. Its stupid cheap at 142r and its unlocked at Prapor 2 so almost everyone can buy it at the trader price in unlimited quantities. On top of that you get to use it from a great budget platform, VSS is around 40k including the suppressor. VSS + SP5 is the best poor mans kit by a mile imo.
To put it in perspective a suppressed smg with AP6.3x120 will cost ~140k, a VSS with SP5x120 will cost ~60k. The SP5 will cut through level 4 armor like butter and is still "ok" vs level 5, meanwhile 9mm must go for headshots.
New to tarkov, thought prs was good, this explains why i did a 30-mag dump into a geared dude and it didnt phase him. Lol
kILlz0n35017 _Bruh_
I, a humble noob, dedicate my next "In-Raid" death in honour of your continued guidance and entertainment.
A sacrifice that surely won't take lo........
M80 doesn't one tap in the chest anymore since it's been nerfed. Bullets incur damage reduction as they penetrate armor. Even lvl 3 armor is enough to stop it from one-tapping, since m80 does exactly 80 damage, if the armor stops 0.1 damage you're gonna do 79.9 damage and you're not going to oneshot.
I'll test this tomorrow on stream, fairly confident it'll have no dramas 1 tapping class 3's and some class 4's
@Pestily Yesss. more testing video's :) but he's right Pest, the m80 round being 80damage and only 41 pen (down from 45) really did hurt the round from one tapping PMC's.
Most low effective durability class 3's will still have a highest chance at one tapping but the armor to test will be the Zhuk-3 Press which has the highest effective durability for class three since using Ultrahighweight polyethylene material. (Ultrapoly)
Test the M80 round vs Class 4 trooper armor (highest effective durability class 4) and it will reduce the m80 damage vs a full 70/70 trooper by about 25-30 damage.
If you would like to know more, I have a quick table to show the effective material durability modifiers linked below. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l__L9OKMgaQwYgSstwvARAO7vifvKMquWmM21f7_dXk
Fort and Redut T5 Armor received a solid nerf recently due to combined materials modifier changing from 0.50 to 0.65... no idea why but it pretty much makes Killa's class 5 armor one of the best in the game.
One round you could test with a few others is the 7BT1 ammo, one round blacks out a leg or arm..the remaining damage reduces all limbs\chest by about 3-4 points. This means if you do black out a leg or arm, the next round can one tap the chest even if they have full 68/68 gen4 assault. The round being 78 flesh and 59 pen makes it one of the most underrated rounds for destroying players currently in EFT at close or long range. So many players don't heal the chest to full 80 after taking some damage which makes the 7BT1 shine even more.
totally understand if this is too long didn't read. ;)
The cost of these rounds are going to get higher somehow
Cheers for making this great game even better man, love the vids!
Thank you so much for this video guide, and explaining the reasoning behind it all! Really appreciate the information!
It's worth mentioning for people trying to run the kedr that PMM rounds do not work in that gun, If you want to run PMM you have to get a klin.
Well it's pretty simple...
If you open a trader that has just reset, and he's already out of stock of X ammo type, then you know, that's the ammo you want to buy. On the fleamarket for a 300% markup xD
Thanks for making the content man. Love it and its helped my game immensely
Now that we are in a different patch and new ammo is added do you think its possible to do another one of these guides? Also possible to do a new armor guide unless you still stand by your old one? I love this guide and love your content!
Thank you so much I made a list of all the ammos so I know what to use and what to absolutely not use
I don't know about when this video was made but frag chance definitely matters now. The majority of my deaths are from fragmentation. I had a guy shoot me in the arm with a slug and it one tapped me because it fragged.
Lets crack straight into it
For me a beginner, I find hunter+ M80 and Aks + PS 7.62 the most success. Personally, I find 7.62 ammo better than 5.56 in the early games . However It domes comes with more recoil, I just tap fire.
you should add the types of weapons that use each ammo type below the chart that would help newer players alot
i use the best rounds like m955 and m61 but i craft them in my hideout only which makes them like 40-50% cheaper then flea market. workbench lvl 3 doesnt take too long so id recommend getting it sooner than later
Never seen a man look so tired :') Love you Pest
Hey man love ur videos, keep creating more awesome content! 👍
For 5.45x39 i would always go with BT over BP. The price isn't really an issue since you can find 120 pcs. BT ammo packs on reserve quite easily and if you put nothing into your gamma besides the ammo, you'll leave with almost 500 rounds per raid.
bs seems to be the over all best round, but idk about pricing. i've played the game for quite a while so prices are mute to me, but i do remember the struggle.
@@Dante_S550_Turbo I'm strictly talking about BT vs. BP here. BS is the best overall performance but very expensive. If you want to go for budget runs without sacrificing too much performance BT is the best choice since you can get heaps of it pretty much for free.
I feel 9x19 RIP and CCI are underrated, especially with how high the price of AP6.3 is getting. Run them through something with a high rate of fire like an MP-9N, and you can shred people. Been having tons of fun and success on factory with them recently. Leg meta like the good old days.
Drum mag on a MP5 is one my favorite guns, absolutely shreds factory with CQB
cci was so much better pre 12.0. It seems like armor dmg % has become wonky. CCI use to be better if you were fighting high tier armor no 9x19 ammo could pen because cci would break it before 6.3 ap could. now it takes 1-2 bullets more for cci to break armor vs 6.3 and the charts never changed so i have no fkn clue wtf happened. I think they went from armor dmg values to % values and that fucked it up maybe? or maybe frag chance was working on armor idk.
Ppsh is 7.62x25 so that would be dope
Imagine the makarov/ppsh drum mag on a ppsh with full sp7 ammo, rip legs.
I want to see a PPSH in the game it fires the 7.62x25mm round and it has an extremely high fire rate
Pestily@ maybe that was the full auto gun you thought was coming into the game, love your vids keep them up they really help.
Thanks, P-Funk. I need all the help I can get.
Good shit pestily, keep at it!
Id argue that SX ammo has value on the MP7 if your hellbent on shredding scavs and undergeared players, due to the fact that it has a 50% frag chance.
One thing that i would have liked to hear in the beginning of this video was why you made a new ammo video. Did they change stuff in .2 or did you just want to make a new vid for ammo since you havent done that in a while?
The previous video was made in 11.7 so there were new ammunition added and changes to multiple rounds
good ammo values about to shoot up
Yup lol
id say theres an obvious difference between sp6 and spp. spp has quite a bit more flesh dmg which makes a difference. ofc sp6 is still a good round and cheaper but it really isnt THAT much cheaper. bp isnt worth it though
Thanks for all your hard work pest. Enjoy Europe!
When making these type of videos, would you be able to put images of the gun that the caliber of the ammo it uses with it? It makes visualizing which ammo goes with with specific gun easier.
Yep I'll add to my to do list to get a screen shot of every gun in the game saved for this in the future (i'm starting to build a database for this reason)
Just got my first kappa container today :)
Ukko congrats
IRL PKM uses 7.62x54R (Rimmed) and RPK uses 7.62x39mm (rimless).
3:02 tracers, so which color of suicide do you want?
the fully auto 7.62x25 gun should be PPSH-41,as I remember.
The peepeeshaw
@@ryanvandoren1519 HAHA,should be a very effective SMG for the leg meta
I wish one of these spreadsheets also included the dealers that sell them and at what level (i.e. Mechanic 1)
Most people are buying off the flea market until they level traders. Even when they are you can get bullets cheaper on the market sometimes as well.
@@connors5543 I have seen that, but in most cases I still like to check with the dealer prices and compare since the market can fluctuate with the players not knowing they are charging more than dealers. Always good to do a quick check.
@@kwazzi9911 You do know that the traders show on the market right?
@@connors5543 I definitely forgot about that. Only played a few times. Once a week at the most.
Im lvl 22 I dont have load sof spare cash in tarkov so blowing 100-200k per raid on ammo alone just isnt an option. I always tend to run AK 74 (can get the plum one from prapor for less than 10k worth of bog roll and toothpaste) with modest mods; rubber but, polymer handguard, lvl 2 skier muzzle device and a pk06 filled with PP ammo. Nobody ever seems to mention PP, but when I look at the tables the pen value and damage seem ok and it's very cheap. Just over 100R from prapor IIRC.
Most of the time when I get killed its not in a straight one on one fight and I'm happy enough dumping full mags of pp into people as that's only 3-4kRub.
Can any experienced players elaborate as to whether I'm doing something that makes sense or not.
Next time explain projectile fragmentation mechanics, pretty please. Absurdly well done presentation all around! Keep at it.
He was saying that its busted rn he misspeaks and calls it ricochet chance tho
@@MeatbagTTV What would you say the proper term to be used in this case would be, if "fragmentation chance" is not?
@@Dedicated0 no fragmentation chance is right but in the video he calls it ricochet chance. Ricochet chance is a value for helmets not ammo :P
@@MeatbagTTV Oh, you're right. Thanks for clarifying.
Now I'm interested in the details on ricochet mechanics too... Guess I better stop being lazy and look it up.
Spent 30 mins sorting out my ammo
Got shot in raid 15 seconds after spawn
7:45 My mind immediately went to the ppsh-41, it uses 7.63x25, its fully automatic and if there's a mosin and an sks, why not add a ppsh-41
PPS 43 is also using 7.62x 25mm
Probably because if they added the PPSH, it would melt the servers and some clients due to the insane fire rate.
There is already a drum mag that fits a makarov and a ppsh, were only missing the ppsh :p
When you buy a drum mag for the pistol of that caliber (the PM maybe ?) it's indicated in the dexcription that it's for PM and PPSH, so I think there is a good chance that it's added in the futur
At last podcast, Nikita said that ppsh is coming
great vids my dude
How does the damage work in regards to penetrating armour? For example say i have 5.45x39mm BS ammunition going against a class 4 armour. Will it do the whole damage amount (40dmg) or reduced slightly from the armour? Also, the armor damage % in the table, does that mean that it will do 57% of the damage value to the armour?
I like loading my mags with some cheap "bad" ammo at the bottom such as ps, then bp, then at the top throw in some bs for the first few shots
I'm pretty sure by ricochet chance he meant fragmentation chance.
wildcamaro they are different things and fragment only gives bonus 50% compared to ricochet
@@dungang4100 ricochet is the round hitting and deflecting. AFAIK this does not damage you. Fragmentation chance is only when the bullet has already penetrated and is supposed to simulate the chance for the bullet to fragment into smaller parts or tumble on it's axis, both cause increased flesh damage.
M80 is recently nerfed so it doesn’t reliably one shot lvl4 in the thorax anymore :(
huh
I’ve had really good experiences with the Flucette or fucking whatever. In 3 raids about 1.3 million doubles worth of stuff just from factory. Never went in with armor or anything.
Snb rounds for 7.62x54r are easy to farm in reserve
Tarkov made me look at guns like swords when it comes to ammo. The gun is your swords hilt and handle but the thing your doing damage with is the swords blade or rather your guns bullets. You wouldnt want to take on monster with a dull blade right?
that depends. blunt bullets have more stopping power. but less penetration.
LETS CRACK STRAIGHT INTO IT
Ye boi
Where did the timestamps commment go?
Does it make sense to stack pen flesh pen flesh pen flesh in a mag?
Wash your hands and be mindful of what your touching and avoid crowded areas!
Thank you for the PSA in these trying times. Zombie apocalypse incoming...
Mosin for life!
very very helpful
What I don't understand is why PBM, whic is supposed to be armor-piercing, has lower penetration than PMM
Subsonic ammo is paired with a suppressor minimal sound. Sneeky cheeki brikee
Doesn't make any difference in Tarkov. I've tested this
I agree ammo is the key. Once I've played as a scav and had some sniper rifle - I tried to kill another scav player shooting at him from distance using scope like 7-8 times and ques what? - nothing!!! Then he killed me when he finally realized where I am...
NoFoodAfterMidnights Ammo chart isnt working for me for some reason, its in a infinite loop of loading. Then it says its not available sometimes
Yeah. For me and my bud as well. Quite sometime ago it worked though
i want to thankyou for your service
sb193 drops like a fucking rock though. only good for short distances, and even then aim a bit higher than normal
honestly m995 is mega overated considering the fire rate of the m4a1 m856a1 is honestly a little bit more than enough
Wish they woulda made m995 atleast 800 a round not 1000 so it’s balanced where people who want to use it can’t feel that bad and those who like 500 and under ammo won’t use it
no link to the tarkov wiki ballistics page?
Your videos are helpful for a lvl 11 player with only 500k like me lol
so much info!!!
Just use PRS 5.45 ammo and You will always win
Polygon has a great guide on "walking tank", really recommend it 😂😂
@@Dynasty1818 Who is Polygon?
@@void8483 you are not a man of culture
@@ricomotions5416 I know it lol
Pizduk you are a man of culture
How do you even get ammo, sold out immediately and then sold at fleamarket for brutal prices
it is called Flechett because the e is silent.
Is it true that according to NoFoodAfterMidnight's ammo/armor table the Igolnik ammo destroys Zhuk-6 armor to 0% in 3 bullets?
Can't be sure but i think if we tested it that it would
It's plausible, zhuk6 is pretty fragile anyways, it's ceramic, only used to stop bullets with less than 60 pen
ok thanks, then its a good idea to top up the first 10 bullets of your mag with best ammo if you cant afford to buy a lot of it?
@@rusduderus it sure is
I mix most my magazines now since ammo is so scarce and expensive
For 60 rounder mags you could do 10 of each round e.g. (10 m855a1 and then 10 995 , 10x855a1, 10xm995, etc.)
Just remember that ammo you put in last will be the first to feed in the gun
@pestily, do you know how the leg kills system works? Or limbs in general? Is if you need enough damage to black both legs to kill?
sean metzger after you destroy one or both legs, any further damage will spread across the rest of the body, eventually killing the target.
sean metzger holy shit you don’t have to send the same comment 4 times for me to notice it xD
Well... yes, you need to do 435 points of damage
Fuck me dean Sean. Calm down
Danilablond idk y there’s 4 comments. TH-cam mobile blows
I load 9x19 RIP in my mp5 and i f'ing wrecks everything that comes in my way even though it has almost zero pen... and i also noticed it became more expensive every time i buy a stack of it...
im confused, the chart shows SNB having better pen against higher level armor than 7N1, so why is 7N1 still considered meta for a bolt action sniper, but SNB for semi auto. So shouldn't the higher pen be more optimized for any scenario of this caliber? Especially if trying to get through decent levell armor and face shields, if someone is able to explain why 7N1 is more meta I'd appreciate it a lot. Just trying to figure out what ammo to be running, while getting the most bang for my buck.
I run SNB no matter what especially late game. Even if I dont 1 tap with SNB my targets armor is trashed and they are not feeling like returning fire because they took serious damage. 7N1 shooting an armored target may not pen enough and your target is more likely to stand and fight back sooner. So, if anything SNB in bolt guns and 7N1 in SVD.
I've been watching your hardcore play through and really miss your epic mustache.
how does flechette 28 pen have more armour effectiveness then the ap20? am i missing something? or is it like each round that it fires do that amount like x7
For me best 12 gauge is Magnum buckshot. Its shreds armor to peaces. One tap scavs in cheest or long headshot. Ap-20 was disaster for. It doesnt one tap scav. May be its going through hands first.... I dont know.
Ty mr pestily can we get a barter trade one after?
hey the nofam ammo chart got taken down because it "violates googles TOS"
for the Sunmachine cheat sheet, it shows the TOZ under shotguns with 12g ammo, is that a joke?
was in a fight with a guy with a SVD thermals, and eventually he pushed me and we traded shots face to face and he hit me in my altyn around 3 times and i dropped him, turns out he had 7n37.....70 pen and didnt manage to pen
James Jinger u wot
Now you would have to ask NoFAM about this but there would be a chance to ricochet each shot off your helmet / face shield. I don't know if ammos have an internal equation to increase the chance of this, that is something you would have to ask NoFAM but i guess if there is a % of 3x ricochet then he got extremely unlucky
@@Pestily helmet was on 95/95, checked after and it was believe around 70~/95
I really appreciate the custom made excel file but already the first round is wrong
Flechtete should have 6654 and ap slug 6663
I use all bp,bt,bs, and 7n39 that i find and i have more than one ammo box filled these rounds
thank you! :)
Wtf happened to the comment with the timestamps? :( helped me out alot...
Loxon Gaming he loses money when people skip to the thing that they need vs. watching the whole video
Buckshot on his sweater already, moms flechette...