HE OUTSMARTED EVERYONE!! Shōgun episode 10 FINALE REACTION
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- I can’t believe it is over!! It was an unforgettable show, thank you so much for keeping me company while watching it! Please, stick around for more reactions and drop in the comments your show recommendations! Also, tell me what you thought of the finale! If you enjoyed my reaction, please consider subscribing to my channel and liking this video for more!
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03:58 Reaction
32:16 Discussion
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Yes, Toranaga always wanted to be Shogun. That was his secret heart, that's why he tells everyone else it's not what he wanted. He never wanted anyone to know it because (as Mariko said) that would risk his life. Even with Yabushige close to death, Toranaga still would not admit this, although he implied it enough that Yabushige could guess it was probably true.
There is a haiku that expresses the personality of Tokugawa Ieyasu, who was the model for Toranaga, and that is this haiku.
If the Cuckoo does not sing, wait until it does.
This means strategizing and winning before it becomes a direct battle.
Hideyoshi is
If the Cuckoo does not sing, force it to sing.
Nobunaga is
If the Cuckoo does not sing, kill it.
So just to clarify as I've seen a lot of people get tripped up on it: The sequence involving an elderly Blackthorn at the start and interspersed through the episode was the 'dream within a dream.' It wasn't a flash forwards of the future but rather John fantasising on what a life returned to living in England would be like. Growing old and miserable regretting over what could have been. Weighing the options of that 'dream' and giving his life for something altruistic and good (saving the village from persecution), he chose to let go of the dream of leaving Japan and instead hold to what Mariko had been trying to say to him. That in death your life can have meaning. And through that action, he showed Toranaga that he had the will and mettle to be counted on as his Hatamoto.
Really!? That’s very interesting, because truly it makes sense… that’s why the “older self” still has the cross and that also aligns with toranaga saying he is not meant to ever leave Japan! Thank you so much for clarifying! 🙏🏼❤️
@@laidareacts
He never left Japan.
The historical model for the novel was the experiences of the English navigator William Adams, who reached the coast of Japan in 1600 in the service of a Dutch trading expedition and died as a samurai in 1620.
@@laidareacts Tbf, the priest had many such crosses to give away to potential converts. Maybe Blackthorne and the priest did become friends and maybe he did give him a cross like Mariko's.
I like to believe Blackthorne made it back like the crew of Adam Williams. The historical Anjin and the Anjin of the books never left Japan. The Dream of the Dream could be the old man dreaming the young man or vice versa. A famous Eastern paradox about the butterfly dreaming says we can never know who is dreaming the dream. Who is dreaming who is ambiguous.
@@JimBarcelonato be honest I thought the dream title referred to Toranaga, because he even mention something about his dream becoming true! but also, I like the idea of Anjin staying forever in Japan, I think he has more connections there now, than anywhere else…
William Adams actually had two children. So it's not him returning to England but stayed in Japan and these children shown are raised in Japan as well
Thank you for your interest in talking about Japanese culture. I am very happy.
As Japanese people living in modern times, we do not wish to live in the Sengoku period, but that spirit is still alive.
For example, if a traffic light is red when no one is looking, many Japanese will obey it.
Also, we have a spirit of "OMOTENASHI" towards everyone, even foreigners.
I hope that you will come to Japan and feel the same way in your heart as Anjin (Black Zone).
Japan today is one of the safest countries in the world.
I sincerely welcome you to come to Japan.
It is seriously MY DREAM to come to Japan! I love Japanese culture and I have been saving for such a long time to make my dream come true, I hope it will happen soon!! Thank you for your sweet wishes!!
@@laidareacts
Thank you for your reply!!
That's wonderful and makes me very happy. (^o^)v
If you come to Japan, please contact me.
Please let me guide you.
I would like you to see the daily life of Japanese people.
@@makhdiy5981thank you so much! 🙏🏼🥹
William Adams was never allowed to return to England. He died in Japan in 1620 where he served the Tokugawa Shogunate. The ''Old Blackthorne'' scenes were the dream of a dream that could have been.
I don't think Yabu is necessarily a traitor. He is certainly not loyal, but he did what most of us would have done. Why commit seppuku surrendering for the losing side? (Which is ironic as he chose the wrong side in the end).
The daughter of Tadaoki Hosokawa (Buntaro) and Gracia Hosokawa (Mariko) is the ancestor of the Japanese Emperor.
at 20:42, he is not just a samurai... he also speaks his language.
Love your reaction to last episode! 😢. I have just become a new subscriber. I’ll go back and watch your other videos. Great work! ❤
thank you so much! 🙏🏼❤️ hope you enjoy the rest of the reactions too
@@laidareactsYour sadness at Mariko’s death was one of the most genuine things I’ve ever seen!! Nearly made me cry.
It may sound silly, but after two and a half months of waiting and following the adventures of these complex characters i'm going to kind of miss them, i haven't been so immersed in a story for a long time and that's thanks to the script, performances, music and production. Will read the novel as soon as i finish my current reading, i´m eager to know more about my beloved characters. Toranaga respected Mariko and even admired her, but he's not a man to show emotions.
If you like historical dramas (i do), please consider this suggestion, you should watch and react to Black Sails. It's a "prequel" to Treasure Island, set during the golden age of piracy. You'll find it's a great series and has a great fan base. There are 4 seasons in total. Shogun reminded me of it in many ways: its complex, ambiguous characters, its fascinating story and setting, the betrayals, alliances and love affairs.
PS: I've already subscribed.
PS2: Do you speak Spanish?
Thank you so much for the recommendation, I will definitely check that out! I have the same feelings as you, I will truly miss them, so I am in need of another similar good show!
I am Greek but I lived 3 years in Madrid so yeah, hablo español 😉
@@laidareacts Thank you for your prompt response, saludos desde el norte de América del Sur.
What impressed me strongly in the last episode was that Toranaga wished to give birth to a lot of children when he returned the hawk to nature.
In the death second of Yabushige's seppuku, I thought that a man who couldn't handle a sword would make him suffer, so he made this role myself.
Toranaga was the best character with both determination and kindness to become a general. And was a wonderful story that was moved by all the characters.
10:48
Because Toranaga believed that women are the ones who can save the world.
You might also like Six Flying Dragons (SFD). Besides the obvious differences-one is a K-drama, the other an American production, and one has 50 episodes and the other 10-there are many similarities. Both are about the rise of authoritarian leaders. Like Shogun, SFD is very well written and acted out, and there is a mix of real-life and fictional characters.
This was a fantastic show; thank you for sharing your reactions with us all.
On a side note - can't wait until the novelization comes out. Oh, wait. . . . 😀
El Anjin nunca se fue de Japón.
Sí, lo entendí de los comentarios, pero desafortunadamente no lo di cuenta al ver el episodio
Warrior is also a great show, different story to shogun but it's also a period drama with a majority Asian cast ,it also has great action
Hey! What about reacting to "Euphoria"? Thank you for your sweet reactions!
By the way: The battle still happened and Toranaga won it. There is a cruel fate for Ishido that is left out. The real battle is the one of Segikahara. Maybe the show didn't do the best job in explaining this part. What was is trying to tell is: he didn't won the battle because of the actions that happend on the battlefield, but because of the intelligent trickery before.
Thank YOU for watching and recommending! I have actually watched the first season, but not the second and the 2(I think it was 2) episodes between the seasons, so yeah… perhaps I should watch them and react!
@@laidareacts oh ..first of all: Jules special episode is amazingly authentic. She is actually mentioned as co-screenwriter here.
And Euphoria S2E4 has one of the best scenes underlined with music, so one of the best music supervision, I ever experienced... Sinead O'Connor's Drink before the war... don't spoil yourself with youtube videos. It's a blessing to see and hear it for the first time within the full context.
@@Beorninger77 you truly make it sound amazing, you got me hyped! thank you so much! so yeah, I will watch it as soon as I finish baby reindeer that I will post soon 🙏🏼
No battle at all? Yes, there will be a battle (there was). But without the support of the Heir's army or the other regents, Ishido is no rival for Toranaga.
Japanese style and aesthetics is to not allow it to be completely digested.
細川ガラシャを主人公にした小説は無い、とのコメントがありましたが、
いやいや
永井路子や三浦綾子、といった代表的な女性作家が彼女を描いてます。
特に後者は日本人では少数派のクリスチャン(新教徒、プロテスタント)で、その視点が興味深いです。
Are you having a nice day?
Based on historical facts, if the final battle were to be filmed, it could not very well be completed in a single episode. So many things happened that a whole drama could be made. However, with the death of Garasha (Mariko), the victory of the Eastern Army was 70 percent decided. So it was a great decision to end it before the battle. There are many novels and dramas in Japan featuring women of this period, but none of them focus on her. So I would like to express my deep appreciation to the author and the people involved in the drama.
I fully understand what you are saying, that’s why I was a little bit worried in the idea they left the battle for the last episode! Battle scenes need time… But thankfully they knew what they were doing!
Also, yes, it the first time for me to see a Japanese women of this period being shown with so much depth
The way people lived during this period is a favorite of mine, and both women and men have their own dramas. Some samurai were homosexual and remained celibate all their lives, some women became daimyo (feudal lords) under male names, and the sister of the woman who served as the model for "Ochiba" married the son of the shogun and gave birth to the third shogun. Their mother was once forced into a political marriage, but her husband was killed by her brother for breaking an alliance; she remarried her brother's vassal, but he too became a traitor, and she refused to rescue him and chose death along with her husband.
We hope that the final battle will create a new drama. Thirty different military memoirs were written about this war by the 17th century. Since Japan had a high literacy rate and reading was a hobby of the common people, many books were published, but military memoirs were quite popular.@@laidareacts
Have you seen the movie Tarzan The Fearless 1933?
no, I don’t think so! should I check it out?
@@laidareacts Yes
@@laidareacts I think it's got an Olympic swimmer named Buster Crabbe in it as the Tarzan character. Tarzan is a jungle man who protects people from the dangers of the jungle
Зачем говорить о будущем с мертвецом?
16:23 Why ?
This is because there is no way that a person who has never used a Japan sword can behead.
「オーガは、彼が足元に花を押しつぶした瞬間に、彼の貴重な葉のない枝を失いました。結局のところ、姉妹」
“The Ogre lost his precious Leafless Branch the moment he crushed the Flower underfoot; sisters in the end, after all”
For the first time in the entire series, Ochiba sama looks directly to Ishido while talking to him; in all other episodes, she glances at him but looks away. That was the most subtle, passive-aggressive death stare I have seen on screen to date.🫣
Yabushige and Toranaga smirking at each other in the end was awesome, too. Yabushige got the best end he could have gotten, considering all he has done: realizing that whether he knew it or not, he has served his Lord Toranaga excellently. And maybe, just maybe, lightening the burden in his conscience a bit. Goodbye to our favourite sociopath.
Blackthorne kills a possible future version of himself-an old man, filled with regret, clutching on to Mariko’s crucifix-by mirroring Mariko (literally doing a ritual su!c!d3 like a woman [a blade through the heart] instead of seppuku [slicing his belly open] like a samurai would) in order to protect Ajiro: the first completely selfless thing he has done in the show; and also by letting that exact same crucifix go into the water along with the ashes of Fuji-sama’s family. And to think he did all those things mostly as an act of kindness to Fuji-sama… she deserves the best. 🥹🥹
Also, the fact that Anjin used the word 詰まらない【つまらない】 (tsumaranai) when he said “my war is small” can also be translated to “my wars are petty/trivial/silly/worthless” in reference to his ambitions and designs for England and his war against the Catholics. That was him letting go of his personal ambitions for something greater.
The setup to be in a position to win the final battle is mostly complete, and the broad strokes were revealed, but the details of the plan and how the battle ensued are still hidden.
So who is ready for a “new/separate” mini-series, titled “Sekigahara”?
Ohhh, and what was Toranaga holding in his left hand just before it cut to the title card?
That was a very good overview of the episode, but… REALLY? are they planning a mini series related to shogun??
@@laidareacts one can wish is all i can say. like i said, the show (and apparently the book which i will read now) is one big political setup to place Toranaga in a position where he could win in the battle of Sekigahara that has not come yet.
Question: if that show is being talked about in rooms and they are debating wether to greenlight it or not, would you be behind it? would your channel shout from the rooftops to hype it up? the wind has ears.
@@khaii13I guess all the reaction channels that reacted to this show, and start their video of the 10th episode with sadness that there will be no more, are a force to the producers to create more! and of course all the people that watched the show and enjoyed it this much!
@@laidareacts the show is complete in itself, ending where the book Clavelle wrote ended. but left enough meat on the bone to give it its logical continuation.
The only question that remains is, will this earn enough to make that continuation viable? And will channels like yours spread the gospel to boost the current show, and create a movement for the continuation? As they would have to write a fictionalized version of the battle of Sekigahara and the remaining time leading up to it that coincides with the narrative that the show (and the book) has presented.
10:50 Why daughters?
That's because the female lays eggs. Obviously.
horrible fantasy story lol