Yes it's pretty meh, if your Into rock crawling you may love it but imho it should have been a standalone and not associated with Mud Runner or Snow Runner.
@@jacobhaussmann90 no SR physics are shit comapred to MR not to mention ST which has better physics than MR, gear shift is shit in SR(well basically SR is worse in every aspect compared to MR and ST other than graphics, map size and the variety of tasks
Physics in Mudrunner is still better than all of this... from Snowrunner you cant feel the weight of the trucks and suspensions are so bouncy that looks like toys lol
Yeah but it's still alot of fun, Racing down that 1 to the right of the tunnel in the dam map was so much fun, bout to buy mudrunner now so i can experience both slow realism and wacky snowrunner glitches and high speed death matches.
In addition to that, I have the impression that vehicles become unstable at high speed e.g. in that racing centered DLC and in the mod map Highway Hauling.
Its worth mentioning when spin tires came out it there was really nothing else with such good mud physics and simulation out there it really was next gen feeling. Glad to see it carried on.
as somebody who played through the mudrunner and most of snowrunner i think the one thing its missing is any form of life in the towns, no movement, no people and over time it feels lonely. I think I'm missing out on playing online with a co op group. and I think the music is like that on purpose. its really hard to pick an energy or a type of music that caters to everybody and i think its a budget thing. i have friends that snowrun and each have a different ethos about how they play.
I played all of them recently and they've all been enjoyable. I'd say MudRunner has the best physics, SpinTires provides the most satisfying driving experience (animations/sounds) and Expeditions has the most beautiful maps. SnowRunner is also number one for me due to the sheer amount of content it has. I just love open-world games in general and I don't really care if I'm driving a KOLOB or something like the DON 71.
Don't listen to people who say; "The exploration side of Snorunner was the most fun" these people mostly played not more than 30 hours. What we need is a fully fletched Logistics game with gigantic 64bit precision maps with highways mixed in. Let us shift to sixth gear at least once...
Spintires and the original (old) MR has much better physics, certainly more realistic than SR and ExpeditionsMR. With SR they changed game engine for more colorful but with degraded physics. It feels to me like if they changed from real car physic to RC toy car physics. When SR was released I made a comparison video.
@@LeonardoBruno54if i understood it correctly, they"downgraded" the physics because of the game rendering the interactions from every session participant. So basically to not overload the netcode
@latyak2531 What do you mean by "old" mudrunner? Is there an older, original version? I'm looking at getting MR after playing snowrunner because of the more realistic physics, but I thought there was only one version.
@@beverlybrock8871 Release dates: Spintires: 2014 Mudrunner: 2017 Snowrunner: 2020 Expeditions: A MudRunner Game :2024 So, "old" Mudrunner: I meant the game from 2017.
This series forgot what is most important in these games.. Physics, and snowrunner and expeditions have stupid arcade physics, only mudrunner in spintires give fun.
Yea I completed MR and now playing SR. SR has more to do like 6 pack of beer. But MR is like a single malt scotch. Not really a drinker but best example I could think of.
Thank you for creating this video. Expeditions is my first game of this genre coming from 20+ years of FPS, RPG, and RTS games, and I'm fu@k1ng loving it. I'm on PC, and I turned the in-game music off at day 1 (no hate) while listening to my personal music (for the win). Expeditions is challenging enough, but I wish there is a way to mod the game so the upgrade spawns are randomized to extend the game replayability. You twisted my arm (not) to grab Snowrunner. I was already downloading it from Steam before your video review of it ended, lol.
Nailed it I think that snowrunner just needs to implement the subtle nuances that mudrunner had like more variations of trailers and personally I loved the smoke and sparks a worn engine would spit out in mudrunner that snowrunner didn't use. Thats about it. Great vid
Great video man! Love all the time and details given in this review. Ended up enjoying American Truck Sim and wanted something more. Picked up all three on the Steam Winter sale. Debating on which one to start first. Thanks again :)
Do please Remember, that Spin Tires was done by a small studio, that had its roots in simulator sound stuff, as their first game. All the other games were done by Sabre after they basically poached the main dev/programmer. That sparked a whole host of law suits between the original studio and sabre wich seems to have lead the original studio to basically collapsing. That seems to be why Spin Tires was removed from steam to begin with. The biggest issues I've had with the progression of the game is the multiplayer system. A match making system vs the lobby list system the original spin tires had was their biggest mistake and how the game almost penalizes you for not using the roads/paths now vs finding your own path. Another Snow Runner issue is its weird Desync issues where a truck with expandable things (Like Crane stabilizer feet) will be always extended when the actual player has them packed and can just catapult you if they hit you on their screen.
I like Expeditions. I like the drone, which really helps route planning. The difficulty spike in Snowrunner was insane. I will admit, Expeditions has given me the itch to revisit Snowrunner. Expeditions has definitely improved my skill set.
having played them all.. I guess it all comes down to what you want...Mudrunner has better physics, better sound, better REAL night atmosphere... Snowrunner is way more arcadey in comparsion
13:13 Playing Snowrunner last night and that statement couldn’t be more true. Tried to move some cargo up the wrong trail and rolled my truck… 3 separate times.
I really liked snowrunner but, I feel like I played it too much. Got burnt out on the constant crawling threw swamps and lakes. Feels like every map is the same old, same old.
MUD Got into the series with Mudrunner as I didn't have a pc to play Spintires on. Got hooked on it immediately and managed to eventually beat every challenge and beat every main game map and dlc map on hardcore difficulty. Of course later on I pre-ordered Snowrunner and I've been doing much of the same, 100% completeing the game and challenges like a mad man. Listwned to this video while playing Snowrunner as well funny enough. Sitting at 1709 hours played, all achievements unlocked, and when current DLCs I'm sitting at about 94% game completion. I love this series and I can't wait to see what else they do with it in the future
I really enjoyed your video and I agree with everything you said. One thing to add, and I think the main reason that spin tires and mudrunner gained such a following was because of the mods. Custom vehicles and full maps you could download took the games from a logging simulator to an offroad driving game.
Mud. Thanks to you I decided to get Snowrunner just over a week ago. Already put 80 hours in 7 days lol. Didn't even know my friend group had it and now there's 5 of us yelling and screaming at each other lol.
@@sephbox negative, just had 5 friends get into it. Even tho it's only 4 max. It was fun to have a full server for a while.... However I usually play alone now... Everyone else disappeared and I like to over load and there's sync issues that mess with my transport.
I know spintires seems like a bad game, because it is without mods, but spintires was and still will be the only game in this series with great rock crawling the mods were by far better than the game
Snowrunner has 13 new regions in dlc by april 2025 will be 16. Always a sale on dlc. Free mods for console and pc giving you almost 1000 new trucks and OP vehicles to use. Vanilla trucks are fun for the challenge but mod trucks gives you better upgrades for Vanilla trucks. Free money, lifted amazing trucks, OP trucks for those wanting less struggle on the dlc maps or Vanilla maps. Or trailers thar can haul 8 cargo points and not slide around. The community is massive on console and pc both. The dlc maps is what makes snowrunner that much better. And for noobs wanting better trucks at the start of the game mods may suit you better.
MUD!! I like how you referred to the games as ‘Snowrunners’ and ‘Mudrunners’… gave me a chuckle… love the video! Although I think Mudrunner is better than Expeditions, otherwise I agree!
You missed the most important part... Mudrunner seems to be the last of the series to fully support that wonderful FFB for steering wheels. Snowrunner was at best pathetic on that regard, and what made me refund it 15min into gameplay. The shifting as well is ridiculous.
I've only played snowrunner but it's such a great game. I stopped playing for a few months because Amur broke me but I've come back revitalized and I've almost completed Amur.
I've been playing the Spintires franchise since the original game was still a tech demo. That gives me some authority to say that arguing that Expeditions is the second to best game in the franchise rivals the belief that you should put milk in the bowl before the cereal.
Snowrunner set the bar for play. Mudrunner set the bar for realistic mud physics. Platinumed Mudrunner in 26 hours with full stars in all challenges. It’s not a long game. However the multiplayer community still plays and is quite fun without drops, unlike Snowrunner where the servers don’t ever work correctly in multiplayer. I’ve got over 2500 hours in Snowrunner my go to when not at work and still haven’t completed the entire game with all the DLCs. Platinumed the base game. Expeditions is good as a more Arcade approach with quick missions. Expeditions shines with the “expedition” mindset where there are no roads and you have to figure out routes. Expeditions is great. However you can’t carry the snowrunner mindset with Expeditions. Mudrunner is older but still good and graphics are better then some games even today. Snowrunner is like the ETS2/ATS of the off-road games.
Normal tip for all Game except Expedition: Spintires:if you are driving on a flat Surface try to not use The All Wheels it will Just take your Fuel. Mudrunner:go slow on some locations Snowrunner:Try to Upgrade mostly like Suspension, Diff lock and All wheel drive, engine For Spintires,mudrunner:If your Truck only has Diff lock use Low gear on Mud roads
Mud!!! I feel the same way about the menus in Expeditions, to much going on..should have just left it alone! Snow runners is definitely the best one!! Great video 👍🏽
I hate the vehicle models in SR, the look nothing like the real thing, the game feels very stiff with bad controls, I like that in MR if you hit the gas it just goes, in SR it keeps changing the RPM to get more grip, I don't want traction control while doing off road
Yea I wish it’s auto shift was more refined, too often it tries to shift to the next gear but then has to downshift again cuz it can’t continue in the next gear. Ik we have manual mode but it’s too annoying to use that normally and then constantly switching between that and auto.
Just have to say one this as far as the recovery the way they have it on expeditions right now I like it but the way it is on snowrunner wouldn't work for expeditions because expeditions maps you have more outpost to recover to so you have to pick one on the map that you wanna go to and on snowrunner you have 1 garage on the map and sometime no garage at all on said map so it would force you to recover to the previous map but over great game so far and can't wait for more vehicles and multiplayer really can't wait to see if they bring in jeeps
I know absolutely nothing about gaming. But I’m interested in getting one of these. Do they work with a steering wheel & pedals please. Many thanks Valerie
its a shame that all games basically have good things that others need or would benefit heavily. There is not just "oh this game has nothing from this one and its horrible". Besides Expeditions since that's kind of a new take on the series.
Mud I played a lot of spintires/mudrunner and snowrunner. Somehow expeditions never clicked with me. I guess you outlined why :) Personally for the next game I want it to be snowrunner in a post apocalyptic setting!
i was looking for a podcast game after i got sick of monster hunter rise, and i hit the bullseye with this one. I'd like a nice combination of the new games exploration and good old cargo missions
I played snowrunner first and then got mudrunner when it was on a deal, snowrunner is the better game BUT engine/winch sounds etc are far superior in mudrunner.
Expeditions may not be the best in the franchise. But people gotta respect saber for listening to players since a lot of people said that they want a game like snowrunner. But only driving smal cars and explore insted of heavy hauling.
I've put over 1500 hours into Snowrunner. By far my most favorite game ever. I'm still no where near finished as the dlc content is huge and it's the only game Ive ever wanted all the dlc for. The only drawback is the farming missions. If I wanted a farming sim there are plenty of already good ones out there, I didn't enjoy ploughing fields. Overall though top game. Mud is awesome. Mud Mud mud.
I played this games at 2016 first time. And I am following the franchise since. You need to plan ahead, be patient use your intelligence to complete the game. And that will take a lot of your time. This are well designed games. In 2025 there will be a new one little bit different than the previous. Road craft 😉
The next game should have it all in one like having the sunniest day ever then then bam down pour thunder and lightning and maybe have support vehicle missions where u get stuck in snow and a plow has to pull u out and maybe the additions of care package so u don’t have to map it to am I gonna make it to next gas point where u can spend in game currency instead and it gives you enough to your next checkpoint or to finish the mission
No way you ranked expeditions second. My personal ranking would be: Snowrunner at the top due to the diversity of trucks, maps and tasks which does overlap the lack of physics in spintires and mudrunner Spintires comes in second since it started the franchise, has interesting DLCs, the Chinese and Chernobyl maps are very cool, the trucks keep the original appeal and have tyre pressure, something not to be seen again until expeditions Mudrunner even though it is the third is a great game, you get your first taste of American trucks and maps, plus a tractor and a car. The mods are insane (someone made a jeep with an actual interior) but nonetheless, either I'm biased or the Spintires maps are better. Expedition is the last and definitely the worst of the bunch. DLCs feel like p2w, has the least amount of maps and trucks most of them being taken from snowrunner, maps are noteworthy but they get overlapped by the bad stuff, you get disposable winch which just makes everything way easier, you get the DLC trucks right from the start and the physics are a bit better than snowrunner, yes but still cannot compare to mudrunner, not to mention nobody cares about it
Tbh i love all the games but the physics and mud are definitely downgraded in the series the trucks in snow runner feel like rc trucks moving around where spintires and mudrunner feel more heavy and sturdy why driving threw stuff it just felt better back than not saying snow runner is bad at all its just not what the game use to be.
Snow runner muti player invite 4 frinds to help cross platform, too. Players join you withal trucks in their garage, including any dlc and upgrades 😮 I have over 1k hrs playing on it
The same physics solver + different generation of shader = spintire, mudrunner, and snowrunner. Expeditions? It is just a DLC of snowrunner, and the rendering quality is worse. I think what I really want is more realistic physics + some heavy and slow trucking + good image quality + bigger maps. Snowrunner is what the can do at most with current phsyics solver. Milking more game out of the old code doesn't make sense to me.
Snowrunners is fun and I like it but it’s unplayable in the beginning or it was for me the first truck you get is so bad and always gets stuck in the mud somehow even on flat terrain so i stopped but I think I should give it another try
Best thing to do (gonna sound counter intuitive like a MF) is get the MK38 from Pedro Bay Alaska map. Diff lock and AWD is always on and it's really not all that hard to get (have to fix a few things along the route but you can drive around other obstacles such as holes and rock falls) just bring some fuel and parts, fix it enough where you can hop in it and recover it. Doing that helped me ALOT, also there's a decent amount of good trucks just chilling around on the maps that you get of you recover them. Should look into a YT video on that of you don't mind a few spoilers (truck locations).
SnowRunner is the best among the series. Realistic physics with detailed, fast vehicles, customisations and addons, many mission and tasks, decent graphics and alot of dlcs.
not sure I'd call the overly bouncy physics and lack of feeling of weight realistic. I wish we could have the mudrunner physics with the Snowrunner content
Yeah... my disappointment about Expeditions is that it's only scouts you play. I don't play either Mudrunner or Snowrunner for the scouts, oh no. So, I'm not a fan of it. Hope they don't flop on Roadcraft.
I thought Mudrunner was excellent. I really enjoyed getting the platinum trophy and one staring all the single player missions on hardcore was a great way to waste a lot of time. I love mud and logging =D
imo snowrunner and ets2 are on a pedestal when it comes to driving game and spintires and mudrunner are all way better than expeditions id put it as expeditions mudrunner spintires and for the first snowrunner
i personally like mudrunner more than snow runner , i can,t seem to get into the game play as much as i did in mudrunner ,theres to much going on in snow runner, off road hauling logs is better , which was developed by one person
Expeditions should have been a dlc for snowrunner
Instead of the one with the off road racing :-D
Yes it's pretty meh, if your Into rock crawling you may love it but imho it should have been a standalone and not associated with Mud Runner or Snow Runner.
Just discovered snow runner, yes very late to the party. Wow, am addicted. Game too a while to click but wow, now love it.
Same bro. Just bought it a month ago
Need someone to play with on ps5. Beat the 1st 5 maps lol still like 10 more maps lol
SR may be a better overall "game" but ST/MR are superior simulations from an off-road standpoint.
How? The physics are the same
@@jacobhaussmann90 its not snowrunner is childsplay compare to ST/MR
@@jacobhaussmann90 no SR physics are shit comapred to MR not to mention ST which has better physics than MR, gear shift is shit in SR(well basically SR is worse in every aspect compared to MR and ST other than graphics, map size and the variety of tasks
They are not the fucking same physics. SR and EX are little kiddy crap. @@jacobhaussmann90
I struggled starting out with these games, but I have grown to love them. The slow pace is just so cathartic.
Physics in Mudrunner is still better than all of this... from Snowrunner you cant feel the weight of the trucks and suspensions are so bouncy that looks like toys lol
Yeah but it's still alot of fun, Racing down that 1 to the right of the tunnel in the dam map was so much fun, bout to buy mudrunner now so i can experience both slow realism and wacky snowrunner glitches and high speed death matches.
In addition to that, I have the impression that vehicles become unstable at high speed e.g. in that racing centered DLC and in the mod map Highway Hauling.
Its worth mentioning when spin tires came out it there was really nothing else with such good mud physics and simulation out there it really was next gen feeling. Glad to see it carried on.
as somebody who played through the mudrunner and most of snowrunner i think the one thing its missing is any form of life in the towns, no movement, no people and over time it feels lonely. I think I'm missing out on playing online with a co op group. and I think the music is like that on purpose. its really hard to pick an energy or a type of music that caters to everybody and i think its a budget thing. i have friends that snowrun and each have a different ethos about how they play.
I played all of them recently and they've all been enjoyable. I'd say MudRunner has the best physics, SpinTires provides the most satisfying driving experience (animations/sounds) and Expeditions has the most beautiful maps. SnowRunner is also number one for me due to the sheer amount of content it has. I just love open-world games in general and I don't really care if I'm driving a KOLOB or something like the DON 71.
Azov of course 💪💪💪
Snow runner with a few mods. Definitely my favorite.
Kojima is glad to see strand-likes caught on
Lmao
Spin tires came before death stranding
@@sgtmcindian506 don't ruin my fun :(
Don't listen to people who say; "The exploration side of Snorunner was the most fun" these people mostly played not more than 30 hours. What we need is a fully fletched Logistics game with gigantic 64bit precision maps with highways mixed in. Let us shift to sixth gear at least once...
Ikr
I bet the optimization would be great... yeah...
You can upshift manually in snowrunner bro, i have 200h+ in each i can confirm. Snowrunner is def the best
It's these whiners is why Expeditions was made meh AF. Should be a standalone and not associated with the other two games.
Spintires and the original (old) MR has much better physics, certainly more realistic than SR and ExpeditionsMR. With SR they changed game engine for more colorful but with degraded physics. It feels to me like if they changed from real car physic to RC toy car physics. When SR was released I made a comparison video.
EXACTLY. The way the trucks bounce and are so stiff makes it feel like they're RC cars and not real, heavy trucks.
@@LeonardoBruno54if i understood it correctly, they"downgraded" the physics because of the game rendering the interactions from every session participant. So basically to not overload the netcode
@latyak2531 What do you mean by "old" mudrunner? Is there an older, original version? I'm looking at getting MR after playing snowrunner because of the more realistic physics, but I thought there was only one version.
@@beverlybrock8871 ye mudrunner is the spinoff of the original game; spintires which is even better in terms off sim
@@beverlybrock8871
Release dates:
Spintires: 2014
Mudrunner: 2017
Snowrunner: 2020
Expeditions: A MudRunner Game :2024
So, "old" Mudrunner: I meant the game from 2017.
This series forgot what is most important in these games.. Physics, and snowrunner and expeditions have stupid arcade physics, only mudrunner in spintires give fun.
Yea I completed MR and now playing SR. SR has more to do like 6 pack of beer. But MR is like a single malt scotch. Not really a drinker but best example I could think of.
Its to make game more mainstream and accessible to all.
I dont know how jumpig up from every stone is more accesible, its looks like shit, maybe its optimisation for coop or just bad physics settings.
Yes you are right but mudrunner is grey snowrunner is more colourful
I prefer snowrunner
@@KlNGkhaled You can adjust the brightness and contrast in mudrunner under options to make it alot better.
Thank you for creating this video. Expeditions is my first game of this genre coming from 20+ years of FPS, RPG, and RTS games, and I'm fu@k1ng loving it. I'm on PC, and I turned the in-game music off at day 1 (no hate) while listening to my personal music (for the win). Expeditions is challenging enough, but I wish there is a way to mod the game so the upgrade spawns are randomized to extend the game replayability. You twisted my arm (not) to grab Snowrunner. I was already downloading it from Steam before your video review of it ended, lol.
snowrunner with their mod community makes it amazing. There are so many good looking trucks
Nailed it I think that snowrunner just needs to implement the subtle nuances that mudrunner had like more variations of trailers and personally I loved the smoke and sparks a worn engine would spit out in mudrunner that snowrunner didn't use. Thats about it. Great vid
Snowrunner is one of the few games I will never delete from my hard drive.
Great video man! Love all the time and details given in this review. Ended up enjoying American Truck Sim and wanted something more. Picked up all three on the Steam Winter sale. Debating on which one to start first. Thanks again :)
Do please Remember, that Spin Tires was done by a small studio, that had its roots in simulator sound stuff, as their first game. All the other games were done by Sabre after they basically poached the main dev/programmer. That sparked a whole host of law suits between the original studio and sabre wich seems to have lead the original studio to basically collapsing. That seems to be why Spin Tires was removed from steam to begin with. The biggest issues I've had with the progression of the game is the multiplayer system. A match making system vs the lobby list system the original spin tires had was their biggest mistake and how the game almost penalizes you for not using the roads/paths now vs finding your own path. Another Snow Runner issue is its weird Desync issues where a truck with expandable things (Like Crane stabilizer feet) will be always extended when the actual player has them packed and can just catapult you if they hit you on their screen.
Great video and review! I am hooked on Snowrunner Co-Op with 3 friends and it is such a blast.
You should do your personal favorite games of all time video
I wish they do a mod where you play as one of the great 3 and do those top gear specials Bolivia and Burma
I like Expeditions. I like the drone, which really helps route planning. The difficulty spike in Snowrunner was insane. I will admit, Expeditions has given me the itch to revisit Snowrunner. Expeditions has definitely improved my skill set.
Mudrunner>>
My first was Snowrunner and love it, I bought Expeditions...I dislike it.
mudrunner is the best try that if you haven't played it.
me to
having played them all.. I guess it all comes down to what you want...Mudrunner has better physics, better sound, better REAL night atmosphere... Snowrunner is way more arcadey in comparsion
Every video you make has the phrase "this game" about a thousand times.
13:13 Playing Snowrunner last night and that statement couldn’t be more true. Tried to move some cargo up the wrong trail and rolled my truck… 3 separate times.
Thank you for talking about the off-roading game
My name is Mud 🎵
Great Video, thank You for making my choice which one to buy a Lot easier and i will go with snowrunner First and then try the other ones
I really liked snowrunner but, I feel like I played it too much. Got burnt out on the constant crawling threw swamps and lakes. Feels like every map is the same old, same old.
MUD
Got into the series with Mudrunner as I didn't have a pc to play Spintires on. Got hooked on it immediately and managed to eventually beat every challenge and beat every main game map and dlc map on hardcore difficulty. Of course later on I pre-ordered Snowrunner and I've been doing much of the same, 100% completeing the game and challenges like a mad man. Listwned to this video while playing Snowrunner as well funny enough. Sitting at 1709 hours played, all achievements unlocked, and when current DLCs I'm sitting at about 94% game completion. I love this series and I can't wait to see what else they do with it in the future
I really enjoyed your video and I agree with everything you said. One thing to add, and I think the main reason that spin tires and mudrunner gained such a following was because of the mods. Custom vehicles and full maps you could download took the games from a logging simulator to an offroad driving game.
Mud. Thanks to you I decided to get Snowrunner just over a week ago. Already put 80 hours in 7 days lol. Didn't even know my friend group had it and now there's 5 of us yelling and screaming at each other lol.
5 at once? afaik max players is 4 in multiplayer. Is there a mod for more players?
@@sephbox negative, just had 5 friends get into it. Even tho it's only 4 max. It was fun to have a full server for a while.... However I usually play alone now... Everyone else disappeared and I like to over load and there's sync issues that mess with my transport.
i my opinion spintires was the best game... it is just not as big as the newer games
I know spintires seems like a bad game, because it is without mods, but spintires was and still will be the only game in this series with great rock crawling the mods were by far better than the game
Snowrunner has 13 new regions in dlc by april 2025 will be 16. Always a sale on dlc. Free mods for console and pc giving you almost 1000 new trucks and OP vehicles to use. Vanilla trucks are fun for the challenge but mod trucks gives you better upgrades for Vanilla trucks. Free money, lifted amazing trucks, OP trucks for those wanting less struggle on the dlc maps or Vanilla maps. Or trailers thar can haul 8 cargo points and not slide around. The community is massive on console and pc both. The dlc maps is what makes snowrunner that much better. And for noobs wanting better trucks at the start of the game mods may suit you better.
MUD!!
I like how you referred to the games as ‘Snowrunners’ and ‘Mudrunners’… gave me a chuckle… love the video! Although I think Mudrunner is better than Expeditions, otherwise I agree!
You missed the most important part...
Mudrunner seems to be the last of the series to fully support that wonderful FFB for steering wheels.
Snowrunner was at best pathetic on that regard, and what made me refund it 15min into gameplay.
The shifting as well is ridiculous.
The mod support for the original spintires is unprecedented. Endless maps and vehicles. Although the camera was the bane of original game.
I've only played snowrunner but it's such a great game. I stopped playing for a few months because Amur broke me but I've come back revitalized and I've almost completed Amur.
I've been playing the Spintires franchise since the original game was still a tech demo. That gives me some authority to say that arguing that Expeditions is the second to best game in the franchise rivals the belief that you should put milk in the bowl before the cereal.
Snowrunner set the bar for play. Mudrunner set the bar for realistic mud physics.
Platinumed Mudrunner in 26 hours with full stars in all challenges. It’s not a long game. However the multiplayer community still plays and is quite fun without drops, unlike Snowrunner where the servers don’t ever work correctly in multiplayer.
I’ve got over 2500 hours in Snowrunner my go to when not at work and still haven’t completed the entire game with all the DLCs. Platinumed the base game.
Expeditions is good as a more Arcade approach with quick missions. Expeditions shines with the “expedition” mindset where there are no roads and you have to figure out routes. Expeditions is great. However you can’t carry the snowrunner mindset with Expeditions.
Mudrunner is older but still good and graphics are better then some games even today.
Snowrunner is like the ETS2/ATS of the off-road games.
“Where we’re going we don’t have roads.” -Doc Brown probably
Just diff locks, winch and hope that there's always a solid anchor point for it :-D
Does Snowrunner feature MAN Kat and Unimog trucks?
Normal tip for all Game except Expedition: Spintires:if you are driving on a flat Surface try to not use The All Wheels it will Just take your Fuel. Mudrunner:go slow on some locations
Snowrunner:Try to Upgrade mostly like Suspension, Diff lock and All wheel drive, engine
For Spintires,mudrunner:If your Truck only has Diff lock use Low gear on Mud roads
ok
To anyone still playing the original spin tires, big ups to th OG's. Personally spin tires is still the better of the bunch.
Mud!!! I feel the same way about the menus in Expeditions, to much going on..should have just left it alone! Snow runners is definitely the best one!! Great video 👍🏽
I hate the vehicle models in SR, the look nothing like the real thing, the game feels very stiff with bad controls, I like that in MR if you hit the gas it just goes, in SR it keeps changing the RPM to get more grip, I don't want traction control while doing off road
Yea I wish it’s auto shift was more refined, too often it tries to shift to the next gear but then has to downshift again cuz it can’t continue in the next gear. Ik we have manual mode but it’s too annoying to use that normally and then constantly switching between that and auto.
Just have to say one this as far as the recovery the way they have it on expeditions right now I like it but the way it is on snowrunner wouldn't work for expeditions because expeditions maps you have more outpost to recover to so you have to pick one on the map that you wanna go to and on snowrunner you have 1 garage on the map and sometime no garage at all on said map so it would force you to recover to the previous map but over great game so far and can't wait for more vehicles and multiplayer really can't wait to see if they bring in jeeps
I know absolutely nothing about gaming. But I’m interested in getting one of these. Do they work with a steering wheel & pedals please. Many thanks Valerie
Yes I know Snowrunner works with a wheel and pedals
@@kojolaingthank you
its a shame that all games basically have good things that others need or would benefit heavily. There is not just "oh this game has nothing from this one and its horrible". Besides Expeditions since that's kind of a new take on the series.
Are any or all of these games compatible with the Logitech G29 wheel and pedals?
I know snowrunner and mudrunner are im not sure about the others .
@@jusmac3 Thank you for the reply, appreciate it. In your opinion which do you prefer.
@@66lwmorgan Snow runner you can customize the vehicles and it looks better, but I find myself always going back to mud Runner
@@jusmac3 Thank you, appreciate your help.
I found it a pain to play with a wheel because the winch function is hard to use
SPINTIRES IS THE BEST of all 4 games
Mudrunner on switch is the best. Snowrunner and expeditions are completely inferior to the og mudrunner.
Nah snowrunner has way more content and variety
@@sugarflame1833and that's it
I was looking to know which game is the best and you did a great job with explaining each games benefits and drawbacks. MUD!😉
Mud
I played a lot of spintires/mudrunner and snowrunner.
Somehow expeditions never clicked with me. I guess you outlined why :)
Personally for the next game I want it to be snowrunner in a post apocalyptic setting!
i was looking for a podcast game after i got sick of monster hunter rise, and i hit the bullseye with this one. I'd like a nice combination of the new games exploration and good old cargo missions
I like how the majority of these games are basically just stick it in high gear and try to maintain.
I played snowrunner first and then got mudrunner when it was on a deal, snowrunner is the better game BUT engine/winch sounds etc are far superior in mudrunner.
Expeditions may not be the best in the franchise. But people gotta respect saber for listening to players since a lot of people said that they want a game like snowrunner. But only driving smal cars and explore insted of heavy hauling.
Rank all of the zelda games pls
Update: MR then SR by a mile
Mud!!! But also a bit of snow. ^^
Definitely a Genre that could be a lots of fun for me. Maybe I will try that out.
The game should be called "a bit of snowrunner"
@@jafsterlordbib lol
Anyone remember snowrunner physics glitches at launch.. my gawd
The series is call spintires not muddrunrunner because all of the games have been funded and designed by spintires and saber interactive
I've put over 1500 hours into Snowrunner. By far my most favorite game ever. I'm still no where near finished as the dlc content is huge and it's the only game Ive ever wanted all the dlc for.
The only drawback is the farming missions. If I wanted a farming sim there are plenty of already good ones out there, I didn't enjoy ploughing fields. Overall though top game. Mud is awesome. Mud Mud mud.
I played this games at 2016 first time. And I am following the franchise since. You need to plan ahead, be patient use your intelligence to complete the game. And that will take a lot of your time. This are well designed games. In 2025 there will be a new one little bit different than the previous. Road craft 😉
14:03 what mountain climbing game are you referring to? couldnt understand it
@@AnKlMa it’s called jusant lol
"Godzilla: Unleashed" theme, nice.
Dayyyym i was not expecting this game to be this good. 1st proper session ended up going for 30hrs. Whoops. Had to restart 3 times. One at 20hrs in 😂
Snowrunner is in top 1? Lol it has the worst physics out of all 4 games. Mudrunner is still the king, Snowrunner is actually the worst one.
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And they still comes out with dlc because they know people love that game soo much.
And just as bad He put EXPEDITIONS as second!!!
The next game should have it all in one like having the sunniest day ever then then bam down pour thunder and lightning and maybe have support vehicle missions where u get stuck in snow and a plow has to pull u out and maybe the additions of care package so u don’t have to map it to am I gonna make it to next gas point where u can spend in game currency instead and it gives you enough to your next checkpoint or to finish the mission
No way you ranked expeditions second.
My personal ranking would be:
Snowrunner at the top due to the diversity of trucks, maps and tasks which does overlap the lack of physics in spintires and mudrunner
Spintires comes in second since it started the franchise, has interesting DLCs, the Chinese and Chernobyl maps are very cool, the trucks keep the original appeal and have tyre pressure, something not to be seen again until expeditions
Mudrunner even though it is the third is a great game, you get your first taste of American trucks and maps, plus a tractor and a car. The mods are insane (someone made a jeep with an actual interior) but nonetheless, either I'm biased or the Spintires maps are better.
Expedition is the last and definitely the worst of the bunch. DLCs feel like p2w, has the least amount of maps and trucks most of them being taken from snowrunner, maps are noteworthy but they get overlapped by the bad stuff, you get disposable winch which just makes everything way easier, you get the DLC trucks right from the start and the physics are a bit better than snowrunner, yes but still cannot compare to mudrunner, not to mention nobody cares about it
Yea expeditions shoulda been a standalone
Tbh i love all the games but the physics and mud are definitely downgraded in the series the trucks in snow runner feel like rc trucks moving around where spintires and mudrunner feel more heavy and sturdy why driving threw stuff it just felt better back than not saying snow runner is bad at all its just not what the game use to be.
Better names for snowrunner:
More mudrunner
Grindrunner
Pay-to-win-runner
Microtransactionsrunner
Snow runner muti player invite 4 frinds to help cross platform, too. Players join you withal trucks in their garage, including any dlc and upgrades 😮 I have over 1k hrs playing on it
Hell yeah 🤘 these games are awesome 🍻
i think spin tires and mudrunner has better dirt bc when you get stuck then low mode can get you out but snowrunner you have to use winch
whit a decent offroad car
Just Mudrunner. Not Mudrunners.
Yea, I had to be THAT guy in the comments.
The same physics solver + different generation of shader = spintire, mudrunner, and snowrunner. Expeditions? It is just a DLC of snowrunner, and the rendering quality is worse. I think what I really want is more realistic physics + some heavy and slow trucking + good image quality + bigger maps. Snowrunner is what the can do at most with current phsyics solver. Milking more game out of the old code doesn't make sense to me.
mud. I have over 2000 hours in snowrunner and still playing it :)
We have a new 1 called Road Craft coming using a new engine same 1 as 40,000 warhammer space marine 2
I wonder if the Snowrunner fans ever play Death Stranding. I view the games as scratching the same itch.
Snowrunners is fun and I like it but it’s unplayable in the beginning or it was for me the first truck you get is so bad and always gets stuck in the mud somehow even on flat terrain so i stopped but I think I should give it another try
Best thing to do (gonna sound counter intuitive like a MF) is get the MK38 from Pedro Bay Alaska map. Diff lock and AWD is always on and it's really not all that hard to get (have to fix a few things along the route but you can drive around other obstacles such as holes and rock falls) just bring some fuel and parts, fix it enough where you can hop in it and recover it. Doing that helped me ALOT, also there's a decent amount of good trucks just chilling around on the maps that you get of you recover them. Should look into a YT video on that of you don't mind a few spoilers (truck locations).
We all love some good mud
SnowRunner is the best among the series. Realistic physics with detailed, fast vehicles, customisations and addons, many mission and tasks, decent graphics and alot of dlcs.
not sure I'd call the overly bouncy physics and lack of feeling of weight realistic. I wish we could have the mudrunner physics with the Snowrunner content
What about mudrunner american wilds
I could listen to you forever
Expeditions is the closest thing to a Aussie off-roading game
A must have for the car nut
Yeah... my disappointment about Expeditions is that it's only scouts you play. I don't play either Mudrunner or Snowrunner for the scouts, oh no. So, I'm not a fan of it. Hope they don't flop on Roadcraft.
$75 for Snow Runner with all the DLC, and that's on sale. Hard pass.
So...the price of a new game for like 4-5 years worth of content realistically? Man y'all are some whiners
Been here since Spintires
I thought Mudrunner was excellent. I really enjoyed getting the platinum trophy and one staring all the single player missions on hardcore was a great way to waste a lot of time. I love mud and logging =D
imo snowrunner and ets2 are on a pedestal when it comes to driving game and spintires and mudrunner are all way better than expeditions id put it as expeditions mudrunner spintires and for the first snowrunner
Why does Mudrunner looks so grey
Because is not gay
Devs used a lot of fog to obfuscate the view, also so you won't notice how tiny the maps really are.
OG SpinTires is legendary
i personally like mudrunner more than snow runner , i can,t seem to get into the game play as much as i did in mudrunner ,theres to much going on in snow runner, off road hauling logs is better , which was developed by one person
Man do I love snowrunner