How to sharpen a chainsaw with a HAND FILE -
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- Sometimes the old ways are the best ways. Up in Northern Wisconsin with Ken talking about and showing how to hand file and sharpen a chainsaw chain on the tailgate of his Silverado.
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G’morning Chris. Nice to see. Ken really knows his way around a saw ! Goodnightirene
You got that right!
Thanks for all the info. Lessons you learned the hard way can help someone else before they have to learn that same lesson the expensive way.
Very true!
The Guru of chain sharpening!
I'll have to try that armpit headlock.
Nice
Yup, Ken does it right!
600 videos, amazing persistence keep up the work👍
Thanks Peter, I am shooting for 1000!
Ken is such a bada$$ he doesn't even need a file handle to file up three or four chainsaws! Quality content for folks learning to hand file. The dremel is faster, but the file can be used anywhere and anytime.
I agree with all that!
It’s fun to watch the fluidity of experience
Thanks for watching!
Well done Ken! When your not at a bench with a vise, it is really valuable to know how to hand file. Combination of sight, feel and sound. The file will tell you when the tooth is sharp as it just stops digging. I'd rather spend a few minutes touching up a chain that just ain't quite right than try to fight a dull saw. GNI
Larry, your last sentence nailed it!!!
Good morning Chris and Kenny!!!
Nothing more satisfying than having all the saws ready to go for the next day.
Take care my friends!!😀😀
Logger Al
You got that right! You can shut off winter any time now Al!!!
@@InTheWoodyard I'm trying buddy!!🤣🤣
I did give you a nice Sunday though.
I can't believe you haven't converted Kenny to the Dremel for touchups. I have always hand filed (or machine for a really rocked chain) but after watching you I have gone to the Dremel for everyday touchups.... I like it!
Not yet, he is great with the file!
I glad that Kenny explained the optometrist appointment before he showed his glasses. That was funny.
Yup, they looked pretty bad!
Kenny cool from Glen in Ms I watch every day
Thanks Glen, we appreciate it!
Hey guys. Great how to video, I'm a hand filer myself. On my XP's there is a small hole, dime size that I can close for the winter to prevent the snow getting into the filter. It's just to remember to do it in the fall.
Thanks Ian!
I learn over my saw to file.. I also touch up every time I fill up just to keep it sharp..
As usual another good video Chris.😁👍
Thanks Daniel!
Sharp and to the point
Liked the pre focus mark 🎯 . At the start of vid the add was for Still equipment UK . I think your Husky vids have them worried 🤣
Cool, thanks for watching Marty!
The camera you used to zoom in is amazing! 😀👍
Thanks! 😀 It is a new canon g50 I think.
The chainsaw dealerships do well in Wisconsin!! Good to see men with power toys!!!
Yes, we have trees!
Congrats on #600.
Woo Hoo !
Thanks Jim!
Nice and sharp good job guys!👍👍
Yup, thanks!
Morning Fellas, the five saws all lined up, nice and sharp, I’d say you have a full-house or Royal flush! Like hearing Kens experiences out in the woods, he probably saved a few guys saws from burning up talking about cutting in heavy snow. See you tomorrow
Thanks for watching Mike!
Awesome video as always this information sharing on how to sharpen chains has been extremely helpful to me I cut a lot of wood I use a steel 500 I and a Easton May 20 228 but just never got familiar with sharpening chains thanks to you and the EZ Doo i’ve started sharpening my own chains and made a big difference in my operation thank you thank you thank you
Great to hear Dan!
Ken used the word "titch" at 2:57 and 3:45. Sounds as if a titch is similar to a "hair," as in the rakers need to be taken down a hair. Six- hundred videos and going strong! Keep up the great work.
Yup, titch, smidge, scoach ,tick, hair, nip, bit, all the same!
Well he can’t be crazy everyday lol. Good info right there thank you once again.
You got that right!
When is Ken going to start his channel? He’s so comfortable in front of the camera now. Well done. Good to see the brothers at it again👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Beer will do that! He does not want to do a channel, I will have him on as much as I can.
@@InTheWoodyard Beer is how I started my channel🤣🤣
He's a great guest correspondent
@@ledzepcleo he’s a good one
Yup
great info from you guys ken from kent england
Thanks Ken!
And congratulations on surpassing 16,000 subscribers you deserve it.
Thank you so much Ed!
Ken, good tips on the hand filing and also liked how you held the saw under your arm. I do have a stump vise which makes it nice. i bet that heated saw is really nice in the area you and Chris are in! Now i know i have to get a Husqvarna if i want a heated saw. Stihl only have those in Canada and Overseas. I do like the ease of getting to the airfilter and their design of the air filter as well! Nice video Chris!
Thanks Craig, how is the 880 coming along?
@@InTheWoodyard, just waiting for the piston. I got really lucky. Not going to cost me as much. I teally liked your 592 xp.
Kenny sharpens the exact same way I do except I kind of lean over the saw but basically the exact same way great video I love when you visit your brothers wood yard
Thanks Adam, lots more to come over the next couple weeks!
Another Great Sharpening video!! It goes to show us Amateurs, that if we keep up the maintenance of our saws, we too can have great cuts. Have a Safe Day
I learned not long ago, thanks to Chris, on when to stop cutting/recognize when the chain is too dull to cut. That has probably saved me at least one saw or a bar in the past year from burning up.
Yes, practice and doing it a lot is what helps!
Yup, if the saw is not cutting great....stop!
Kenny is a pro at the tailgate sharpening, I hate doing it. I am hoping that dremel will help me out this year.
It makes sharpening a lot easier!
Good on you Chris ..a 24" bar is spot on for a 6' man
Yes, I think so too!
Hiya Chris/Kenny, good video! For years I was in the timber game, mainly saw milling with a bit of felling now and again! I was never that good with a file! However Kenny you make it look so damn easy, all the ‘rookies’ out there will think it’s easy! I see you pay ole Leroy in beer and logs! Good way to deal! However, don’t every let Chris use him as he will get water and one of Chris’s old overcoats to take home 😂! Thanks gents, take care!! Len (Devon 🇬🇧)
Ha! Thanks Len, that water is an artesian well, at least thats what I call it!
good vid!! learned a lot as usual! i need an air filter for my jonsered 2163 and it looks the same as the g model! I can see ken is not afraid of hitting the rakers!! haha he must like an agressive saw like me! let the saw do the work!!
Yes, we like the saw a little mean!
I start everyday off In the Woodyard and with a couple cups of coffee ☕☕.
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Thanks for watching, it is a good way to end the day also but with a cold one!
@@InTheWoodyard 🍻Cheers!!
I use the 12volt grinder, clips to the truck battery with a extension cord to the tail gate. When I am hand filing, I have several files that I zip the rat tail off and thread a die on for a few threads and thread a small nut on. 50 years ago I run the rat tail of the file into my hand , to this day I remember it and still feel the pain.
That is a great idea Ed!
Thanks, for the how to do
Any time Larry!
You make that look easy... I can hand file one side perfect but the other side I have a problem with..
Yup, Ken is good at it!
Hey Kenny, the "G" is for Gucci...😎 My 395 had the same "Screw Loose" issue due to the previous owner running her till a bunch of her fillings fell out!
3 of the four recoil cover screws were basically held in by mild friction. The air box screws were only still present due to gravity! My solution was to have my friend
(mil. spec. aviation machinist) professionally install heli-coil inserts and I replaced the old screws with new O.E. fasteners, coated with blue LocTite.
Hoping she cooperates with said repair! So, Chris, I'm surprised you had the patience to wait for Kenny to sharpen those chains with that archaic tool! LOL
Bless'ns to ya's, Tedd
I have since lock tighed the recoil screws in also
Ken is good with the file and his saws cut great! Gucci! HA! We found out it is actually for... generator.
@@InTheWoodyard Aye Chris, Ken and I subscribe to the same logic of frequent filing. However, I may get a Dremel for sharpening work saws. Our crews seem to be willing to tolerate a dull chain much longer than I will!
Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
@@sawsurgeon you. Must be paying them by the hour if they are being paid piece work they would step up a lot
@@kennethcarlson8713 :: Unfortunately it’s landscape crews and oftentimes they’re flush cutting ornamental trees @ ground level... Most of them have no business even looking at a saw, let alone operating one!
I’m just the fix-it guy🤬
I like hand filing. But I also like a handle on my file. Looks like Ken goes without a handle. He is very proficient at filing.
Yes he is good at it for sure!
Excellent demo on tailgate sharpening and a little pre-cutting maintenance. Does Kenny ever modify his tooth sharpening angle for specific species or cutting conditions? I’ve heard some loggers do. I like the temporary fix on the 👓
Have a pair I epoxied the lens and stripped out screw into 😆. I’ve also messed up some gear by staying too long on the job…too stupid to go home. Work doesn’t finish itself…get er done boys.
I do not think he does, I never do, just the same all the time.
Thanks Chris! Does Ken run Seafoam in his saws? Saw the bottle on the fridge.
Not that I know of.
No woodyard work today for rehab exercise. I hate the ice and snow. Wonder how jealous Kenny is of the 592xp?
He will get to try it out soon!
There's just some satisfaction in hand filing, makes you feel like you got full control and touch. When your in a hurry, just dig out the dremel.. 😉
So true!
Wow, cutting in 20 to 30 below zero or was that the windchill? For the average firewood cutter, does it make any sense to have a saw with heated grips or is it more of a professional logger feature?
That was actual temps, heated saws are nice for pros who cut in cold for long times.
I believe the g in xpg stand for generator which you need to create the power for the heated handle
Yup, we just found that out, thanks Jeff!
Great video. But got a question for Ken, wouldn't ether have a chance to cause a fire if a spark or something happened using it to spray the engine fins? I know what you mean in summer gotta keep them air fins clean but using ether, I just had to question that. Thanks.
Not when saw is hot or going to be used right away
Ken said it!
So.... Who's faster Kenny with the file or Chris with the Dremel?? Great video guys.
Good question!
Very good close up video-sharpening chain on tailgate, Liked extra light& close up. What brand & size file is your (1) choice.
No brand per say, we just buy them by the dozen in boxes at the logging convention.
Have you ever run the skip chains? 20 inch has 12 teeth a side and no drop off in cutting.
I never have and I know ken has tried it but did not like it, something about hard wood vs softwood??
Now that I see it, I'm going to try the underhand grip for my off side. For me hand filing is like trying to fillet a fish. Pretty good on one side, not worth a darn on the other.
It does take a lot of practice!
Way faster than with Dremel :D or Ken is just so high level pro?
HA! He does know what he is doing!
Kenny sure doesn't mess around. That was some fast sharpening! That file seems pretty big. Is it bigger than 7/32? Dave
7 32
@@kennethcarlson8713 - If you want any of those ported please email me! - about tab on my profile. I live in WI.
7/32
We talked about it a bit and we kind like the last remaining 50% of out hearing for now! Thanks for the offer Marcus!
@@InTheWoodyard thanks for considering! Appreciate it.
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Thanks!
G stands for generator, that's what G means. The generator powers the heat. The generator is behind the flywheel.
Now I know
Thanks Rick!
Flipping the chain inside out haha there is someone else that can do it!!
Cody! Shhhhh don't tell everyone! Good catch!
Hmmmm..I can never sharpen like that as there is too much give in the saw that way..I cut off a round then I put the saw on that and put my weight on the saw by putting my chest on it ..then I file with two hands one on the handle the other on the tip of the file .easy to guide and maneuver it that way..I can also put a sweater or something on the saw so it cushions having my weight on it ..that way I am also looking down on the chain from right on top of it..then I just switch hands to file the other side ..always seeing the chain from on top..works for me anyhow ..I guess whatever works ..always hand filed my saws ..I have a 372 and a 572 Husqvarna and run 3/8s Skip tooth...
As long as you can get the chain sharp, that is what matters.
Can you sharpen your blades if they are not on your saw
Yes with a disc (Oregon chain sharpener ) , but it is easier with a file if it is on the bar.
I picked up a Forester Chain Saw Filing Vise SCFV-20, clamps into my vise, looks like a small chain bar. If I accumulate a few dull chains, I use it to manually sharpen, esp if hit nail, metal, etc.
Ok , show us the trick of the inside out chain ,
He will some day!
Instead of relying on prescription glasses, the last time I went to the optometrist, I asked her about my prescription (and got 2 pairs of good classes), then I went to the dollar store and picked up some cheaters and cases for a couple of bucks a piece. Now I have cheater glasses in my tackle box, chainsaw box ( I also keep them in old peanut butter containers) and in the workshop. I don't have to worry about ruining a good pair of expensive glasses. I just need them because my arms are getting too short for my eyesight.
Yup, that is what I did too!
I think ken might be faster then the dremal.. might be a cool compitition of sharpening and how long they last... Just an idea for another video lol
Maybe so!
I put a hole in a gas can in the bed of my truck by forgetting my bar scabbard. It was a 20 something dollar lesson.
I have cut a lot of things with a saw chain accidentally including my hands and fingers!!
I noticed that Ken don't use the same amount of strokes on each tooth why is that? I know the teeth will wear down more than others that way.
Because when each tooth is sharp, it is....sharp. No matter if it takes 1 or 5 strokes.
No weenie saws allowed!!
Nope!!
5 Huskies and only 2 hands...Life really isn't fair some days!👍
Let em RIP, Fellers!
They all get used....a lot!
Novice here,
Do all of those have the exact configuration of teeth ?
Other y.t. vids make chain sharpening very complex and exact.
Are there different chains for different uses?
Same here, I was gifted a saw (Remington electric) trying to figure out what size file I need to use.
Yes there are a lot of different types and sizes, take your saw to a dealer and find out what you need to sharpen. Thanks for watching!
Look it up on google for the specs or go to a saw shop and find out what you need.
Thanks
If you were a nice person you would have given us tomorrow's video already! Making us wait is not nice, so I guess I'll see you then!
Ha! I do have 600 other videos on my channel, you can always go and watch them over and over...please! Thanks Michael!
@@InTheWoodyard You are 878 miles from my home. But I promise, one day, in the foreseeable future, I will be in your wood yard and I will reluctantly take your abuse first-hand!!! Can't wait!