yea I like that team too. but.. may take another year for them. Gordon.. the suspension.. Manziel questions... theyre a toss up for this season but an any given sunday nightmare. Joe Haden is a nightmare.
I know people don't like the redskins but cmon is it really hard to see the skins as a legitimate threat I mean even colin kaepernick gives seattle a good run and healthy rg3 is way better then him and more productive as an individual player I mean anybody can lead the niners to the playoffs but not everybody can lead the skins there. didn't a braced 75% rg3 scored 14 pts back to back on the LOB before he got knock out of bounds to 33% cease changing his game entirely the rest of the way leading to that horrible acl tear? not even to mention garcon was also not 100% and there wasn't even a Reed, Roberts or Jackson there at the time as well as no o-line which has been revamped. also can Sherman even cover Djax? im just saying rg3 will be better then 2013 he will be more 2012 if not better and have a more polished oline and def more weapons and a real coach. let's just see
Jay Black true you right but I do think this will be the best defense in the rg3 era adding hatcher and clark to the defense also Crawford and Thomas who showed out in preseason in 2013 got injured and now healthy and will show out in my opinion and the d will improve like to top 17 at least. as for Sherman he really good but the wrs he faced dez bryant- 4.52 larry fitzgerald- 4.63 micheal crabtree- 4.54 steve smtih- 4.39 julio jones- 4.39 roddy white- 4.47 all couldn't beat Sherman but one Megatron who runs faster then them all 4.35 and Sherman did nothing with him and Jackson also runs a 4.35 so it'll be a exciting matchup :).
hey guys I want you to think about the conversation are we saying the redskins a contender to win the super bowl or just to will the NFC East. when we talk about defense please note that the team that won the NFC east had the 29th defense in the NFL the Philadelphia Eagles and the redskins was ranked 18th so I think that in this division its about offense the eagles was ranked number 2 redskins number 9 and with the lost of djax it going to really hurt the eagles because now you can load the box and focus on stopping lesean McCoy and nick foles will be under a lot more pressure and the redskins will be very dynamic with garcon and djax
Jay Black vs denver.. dhall actually picked manning twice. once for six. problem was.. our offense couldnt stay on the field.. if you give denver that many chances and cant put up points your in trouble. and seattle? lol theyre lucky rg took himself out of we woulda beat them in.that 12 wildcard we jumped out 14 0 st quarter theyre lucky. rematch this season..
Yes, it is hard to see the Redskins as a legitimate threat. The 49ers and Seahawks didn't turn their teams around overnight. The Redskins should take advantage of the weak division this year and take a playoff berth as a blessing, then sell their souls to Satan for a chance into the second round. Lets face it, The Redskins probably won't get a first round bye this decade.
I just don't know about Jay Gruden, and I hope I'm wrong. He's never "wowed" anyone in the NFL, just did a solid job. I hope that's enough. I hope I'm underestimating him. And I hope and pray RG3 is back 100% healthy physically and mentally and it translates to the field this year. HTTR
If the Redskins can get a solid defense then I can see where Gruden is coming from. They got the fire power thats for sure! Picking up DeSean Jackson in the off season was huge since you add him with Garcon and Morgan. You also got to remember that Grudens family memeber is the coach of the Skins now. HTTR!
Understand 1 thing, coming from a huge skins fan; the Redskins are the best preseason NFL team of the last 20 years. The regular season....epic disaster. We still have the worst special teams unit in modern football. The skins special team's unit gives up more points than half of the NFL teams can score on offense.
Morgan? That guy is terrible. You mean Andre Roberts, Aldrick, Ryan Grant. Anyways, I dono though... I have my doubts about the pass defense as well as RG3's first year as a true pocket passer.
He never said that he thinks they may be, he simply stated that any team could be and the Redskins happened to be the team they were talking about. Fix your title bud.
Agree, all it was, was one division in the the conference that "could" possibly be the sleeper. All of us can make predictions on a season. Im a die hard Seahawks fan, but with the rest of the league my sleepers from last season was the Chiefs and Dolphins from the AFC, and the Eagles and the Cardinals in the NFC. Almost got to 3-4 Cards made it to 10-6 w/o a playoff appearance. But that's what I love about the NFL and the salary cap, theres always a balance. Every team has gone through there bad years and they have their good years, no team in the NFL is an automatic.
Our defense isn't horrible. We're not as good as the Hawks defense but we have a lot of weapons. Rak,Kerrigan, Porter, Hall etc. With Fletcher retiring I can see why you guys would say that but look how great our defense will be this season.
Portiz26 I see you point but that team is better this year than last years team. The WRs are way better and that was the seahawks weakest position last year.
I'm born and raised in Seattle and have seen my Hawks through the highs and lows, but I don't see how they're considered "clearly" better. Anybody heard of the 49ers? Even AZ beat us in our own house! Hoping for another great year. GO HAWKS!!
As a Redskin fan they're not ready to go up against the Seahawks right now, Sherman may just cover the left side of the field bu they'd just blitz right through the swiss cheese O-line and get to Rob before Djax can get 5 yards down the field. Also with how quickly they can pick apart the O-line they'll get Morris on the ground for maybe 3 yards.
nice to hear from a Seahawks fans who is trolling a Redskins site disguised as a Skins fan. you have quite the imagination. Redskins not ready to go up against Seattle???? Last time the Skins were ahead 14-0 before a cheap shot hit really hurt RG3 and after the first quarter he was clearly not the same and limping on one leg. Now that he is healthy the Seahawks will stand no chance.
look do you remember when the O-line was consistent and could pass protect well that last 7-8 game stretch 2 seasons ago. That was the best run they've had since 07 after Sean Taylor tragically passed. RG3 is on his own in the pocket most of the time and without him being comfortable back there they need more pieces there and less on the skill side(along with some better safeties). My bad if it sounded like Seahawks bandwagoner I didn't see all the FA's the Seacocks lost. But RG3 as a messiah to the franchise is a wrong step in faith, he has everything but an O-line and defense, if the skins improve up front more often and find a Sean Taylor like player soon they'll be SB champs, but now with that offense they'll score 30 points a game, but end up losing 30-33 or 30-37 I don't like Hasslett and the 3-4 implemented so terribly
Okay so you are a real Redskins fan I can see that. But you are worried for nothing. We start this season with FOUR different players on defense and a whole new defensive philosophy which was the real problem Plus the Skins should not lose the turnover battle in this years opening game We'll beat Houston and then take it one game at a time. Relax my friend and enjoy a winning season because this schedule and this team is so much better.
Man i can see where you are coming from, but remember the redskins d needs to be entirely reshaped to even be considered to challenge the seahawks or the 49ers.
Charles West I don't think it needs much reshaping. With Jenkins, Hatcher, and Baker as the front three, they'll be getting a lot of pressure, then you add Orakpo and Kerrigan, that's going to be a lot for any O-line to handle. With that front five and the pressure they will bring, you'll be able to put six out in coverage, so the secondary doesn't have to be great. That plays into Hall's strength of jumping routes, and makes up for Clarks lack of speed. That defense will be a top 10 defense this year, and unless they really get hit my the injury bug, they have the best chance at winning the division.
Let me fix an obvious typo on your part: You accidentally put Atlanta to win the South over the Saints. Just wanted to point that out so you can fix it
OOHH! the Deadskins..SMH!! so creative never heard that one..It's all just opinion's..and nothing more..Even in a 3 win season RG3 still accumulated 3,203 three yards more then 2012..Add a healthy Jordon Reed,D-Jax,Andre Roberts.Garcon,Moss,Alfred,J Hatcher..= More win's
As a Redskins fan I will say we will be no where NEAR the seahawks from last year, but I do truly believe we will win the NFC East just because the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants just aren't good enough to have a better record a better defense and healthy RG3
What? Rotfl every team in the east is chasing the eagles. ALL OF YALL. Eagles have the best team in the nfc east by a wide margin on both sides if the ball.u know nothing about football fool
l Tee Jay l The Eagels Secondary is no better then the Redskins, the Redskins have better linebackers, and their D-lines are about the same. The Eagles O-line is better, both run games are great, the Redskins passing game is better than the Eagles, so yeah I'd say the Redskins have a pretty good chance at winning the NFC East
Are you high? Redskins lost london fletcher. The only lb that is good is orakpo. But orakpo cant cover and neither can kerrigan. ALL of our lbs can cover and pass rush. Eagles had a top 10 rush defense and the only reasons our defense looked bad stat wise is cause they were on the field more than any other team by a lot of minutes. We also held our last 11 opponents to under 21 points.(excluding the viking game) the eagles had a mediocre wr corp last year right? Nobody called desean an elite wr they just said deep threat now we have 3 bigger fast wrs who can beat man cov something djax couldn't do.the redskins may have talent on offense but that doesnt mean they have a chance.it takes a team to win and right now they are just a bunch of players not a tram
l Tee Jay l Ryan Kerrigan is a two time pro bowler and he has only been in the nfl 3 years. So I would consider him good and so would common sense. London fletcher was worse than ray Lewis was his last year in the league slow and short he can be easily replaced on the field, maybe not leadership wise but definetly football wise. Everybody has a shot in the nfc east this year. And the eagles still didn't replace desean Jackson deep threat speed.
I think browns are the sleeper. They have been building a team and had some good picks this year
Not without Gordon. I also thought they would've been something until I heard Gordon was out for the season.
XXkirboeXX Oh damn, I didn't hear about that lol yeah that might become an issue
joshua Pollard browns could be 8-8 this season and make the playoffs the next
yea I like that team too. but.. may take another year for them. Gordon.. the suspension.. Manziel questions... theyre a toss up for this season but an any given sunday nightmare. Joe Haden is a nightmare.
joshua Pollard Yea Gordon is suspend for the whole season.
Seahawks' schedule is brutal.
They managed through it, no doubt.
We'll see, no one really thought we would go above 9-7 from our last schedule. Seahawks just need to fight harder and grind the season out.
Back to back Superbowl champions. Go Hawks!!!
Jon Gruden, you never lie.
He wasn't lying, he was just WRONG.
I know people don't like the redskins but cmon is it really hard to see the skins as a legitimate threat I mean even colin kaepernick gives seattle a good run and healthy rg3 is way better then him and more productive as an individual player I mean anybody can lead the niners to the playoffs but not everybody can lead the skins there. didn't a braced 75% rg3 scored 14 pts back to back on the LOB before he got knock out of bounds to 33% cease changing his game entirely the rest of the way leading to that horrible acl tear? not even to mention garcon was also not 100% and there wasn't even a Reed, Roberts or Jackson there at the time as well as no o-line which has been revamped. also can Sherman even cover Djax? im just saying rg3 will be better then 2013 he will be more 2012 if not better and have a more polished oline and def more weapons and a real coach. let's just see
Jay Black true you right but I do think this will be the best defense in the rg3 era adding hatcher and clark to the defense also Crawford and Thomas who showed out in preseason in 2013 got injured and now healthy and will show out in my opinion and the d will improve like to top 17 at least. as for Sherman he really good but the wrs he faced dez bryant- 4.52 larry fitzgerald- 4.63 micheal crabtree- 4.54 steve smtih- 4.39 julio jones- 4.39 roddy white- 4.47 all couldn't beat Sherman but one Megatron who runs faster then them all 4.35 and Sherman did nothing with him and Jackson also runs a 4.35 so it'll be a exciting matchup :).
hey guys I want you to think about the conversation are we saying the redskins a contender to win the super bowl or just to will the NFC East. when we talk about defense please note that the team that won the NFC east had the 29th defense in the NFL the Philadelphia Eagles and the redskins was ranked 18th so I think that in this division its about offense the eagles was ranked number 2 redskins number 9 and with the lost of djax it going to really hurt the eagles because now you can load the box and focus on stopping lesean McCoy and nick foles will be under a lot more pressure and the redskins will be very dynamic with garcon and djax
Jay Black vs denver.. dhall actually picked manning twice. once for six. problem was.. our offense couldnt stay on the field.. if you give denver that many chances and cant put up points your in trouble. and seattle? lol theyre lucky rg took himself out of we woulda beat them in.that 12 wildcard we jumped out 14 0 st quarter theyre lucky. rematch this season..
Yes, it is hard to see the Redskins as a legitimate threat. The 49ers and Seahawks didn't turn their teams around overnight. The Redskins should take advantage of the weak division this year and take a playoff berth as a blessing, then sell their souls to Satan for a chance into the second round. Lets face it, The Redskins probably won't get a first round bye this decade.
No way they can go far w that secondary.
I just don't know about Jay Gruden, and I hope I'm wrong. He's never "wowed" anyone in the NFL, just did a solid job. I hope that's enough. I hope I'm underestimating him. And I hope and pray RG3 is back 100% healthy physically and mentally and it translates to the field this year.
HTTR
If Jay is anything like Jon, they will be a force....
If the Redskins can get a solid defense then I can see where Gruden is coming from. They got the fire power thats for sure! Picking up DeSean Jackson in the off season was huge since you add him with Garcon and Morgan. You also got to remember that Grudens family memeber is the coach of the Skins now. HTTR!
Understand 1 thing, coming from a huge skins fan; the Redskins are the best preseason NFL team of the last 20 years. The regular season....epic disaster. We still have the worst special teams unit in modern football. The skins special team's unit gives up more points than half of the NFL teams can score on offense.
Morgan? That guy is terrible. You mean Andre Roberts, Aldrick, Ryan Grant. Anyways, I dono though... I have my doubts about the pass defense as well as RG3's first year as a true pocket passer.
He never said that he thinks they may be, he simply stated that any team could be and the Redskins happened to be the team they were talking about. Fix your title bud.
Agree, all it was, was one division in the the conference that "could" possibly be the sleeper. All of us can make predictions on a season. Im a die hard Seahawks fan, but with the rest of the league my sleepers from last season was the Chiefs and Dolphins from the AFC, and the Eagles and the Cardinals in the NFC. Almost got to 3-4 Cards made it to 10-6 w/o a playoff appearance. But that's what I love about the NFL and the salary cap, theres always a balance. Every team has gone through there bad years and they have their good years, no team in the NFL is an automatic.
The Redskins and Eagles are going to tear up the league this year and the NFC championship game may just be the NFC EAST CHAMPIONSHIP game.
Our defense isn't horrible. We're not as good as the Hawks defense but we have a lot of weapons. Rak,Kerrigan, Porter, Hall etc. With Fletcher retiring I can see why you guys would say that but look how great our defense will be this season.
Gruden in this was a year early
seahawks will be the first back to back champs since the pats. No way that team doesnt win it again if they stay healthy, they are too good
Portiz26 I see you point but that team is better this year than last years team. The WRs are way better and that was the seahawks weakest position last year.
It's funny how he almost got everything wrong 😂😂😂
He was one year early
I'm born and raised in Seattle and have seen my Hawks through the highs and lows, but I don't see how they're considered "clearly" better. Anybody heard of the 49ers? Even AZ beat us in our own house!
Hoping for another great year.
GO HAWKS!!
Keep telling yourself you a hawk fan
Wow, there are Seahawks fans who live in reality. I learned something new today
I am a Redskins fan and that is a ludicrous statement. They will never win consistently or see a Superbowl with Dan Snyder as an owner.
Not a single mention of the Saints. The intentional disrespect is amazing. They literally had to try their best to not mention them
Cuz they suck
Gruden knew we would be good because he knew Kirk would be starting :)
Oh jon, you'll say anything to get more air time... I still love ya!
As a Redskin fan they're not ready to go up against the Seahawks right now, Sherman may just cover the left side of the field bu they'd just blitz right through the swiss cheese O-line and get to Rob before Djax can get 5 yards down the field. Also with how quickly they can pick apart the O-line they'll get Morris on the ground for maybe 3 yards.
nice to hear from a Seahawks fans who is trolling a Redskins site disguised as a Skins fan. you have quite the imagination. Redskins not ready to go up against Seattle???? Last time the Skins were ahead 14-0 before a cheap shot hit really hurt RG3 and after the first quarter he was clearly not the same and limping on one leg. Now that he is healthy the Seahawks will stand no chance.
look do you remember when the O-line was consistent and could pass protect well that last 7-8 game stretch 2 seasons ago. That was the best run they've had since 07 after Sean Taylor tragically passed. RG3 is on his own in the pocket most of the time and without him being comfortable back there they need more pieces there and less on the skill side(along with some better safeties). My bad if it sounded like Seahawks bandwagoner I didn't see all the FA's the Seacocks lost. But RG3 as a messiah to the franchise is a wrong step in faith, he has everything but an O-line and defense, if the skins improve up front more often and find a Sean Taylor like player soon they'll be SB champs, but now with that offense they'll score 30 points a game, but end up losing 30-33 or 30-37 I don't like Hasslett and the 3-4 implemented so terribly
Okay so you are a real Redskins fan I can see that. But you are worried for nothing. We start this season with FOUR different players on defense and a whole new defensive philosophy which was the real problem Plus the Skins should not lose the turnover battle in this years opening game We'll beat Houston and then take it one game at a time. Relax my friend and enjoy a winning season because this schedule and this team is so much better.
Man i can see where you are coming from, but remember the redskins d needs to be entirely reshaped to even be considered to challenge the seahawks or the 49ers.
Charles West I don't think it needs much reshaping. With Jenkins, Hatcher, and Baker as the front three, they'll be getting a lot of pressure, then you add Orakpo and Kerrigan, that's going to be a lot for any O-line to handle. With that front five and the pressure they will bring, you'll be able to put six out in coverage, so the secondary doesn't have to be great. That plays into Hall's strength of jumping routes, and makes up for Clarks lack of speed. That defense will be a top 10 defense this year, and unless they really get hit my the injury bug, they have the best chance at winning the division.
If U A Redskins Fan They Gone Hate!!
Btw. This never happened. 8-15-19. Comment.
In fact, they lost so much they even lost their team name.
"two corners i thought were really good......carlos rogers......"
#HTTR!!!!!
My predictions: AFC; North-4Ravens South-3Texans East- 1Patriots West- 2Broncos Wildcards- 6Bengals and 5Colts NFC; North-3Packers South-2Falcons East- 4Eagles West- 1Seahawks Wildcards-5Cards and 6Saints.
Let me fix an obvious typo on your part: You accidentally put Atlanta to win the South over the Saints. Just wanted to point that out so you can fix it
Trent Rez they both sucked
Funny how long stupid shit people say stays around to haunt them.
49ers will finish 3rd in the NFC West.
This made me laugh. Even as a washinton skins fan.
Hi I’m From the future and the redskins and Seahawks are actually very similar on being very average teams
Wow, Im impressed. Was Skip not feeling well or something? Because he usually talks out of his ass. Or did I miss something?
Lmao! What!? The deadskins?
***** you've GOT to be kidding me.. please.. tell me you are..
OOHH! the Deadskins..SMH!! so creative never heard that one..It's all just opinion's..and nothing more..Even in a 3 win season RG3 still accumulated 3,203 three yards more then 2012..Add a healthy Jordon Reed,D-Jax,Andre Roberts.Garcon,Moss,Alfred,J Hatcher..= More win's
SKiNZ LOOKiN GOOD!
god damn HE NEVER ONCE SAID REDSKINS R SEAHAWKS
More like the next LA Clippers. How about the Washington Blackskins? More offensive and more apt.
While we are throwing out random teams how about the cleveland browns or the jets? Oh wait maybe the Jaguars?
Justin C
LMAO....Ravens...that was a good one.
Red skins a threat
The browns are still a year or 2 away
LOFL, yeah that's what people have been saying for 40 years.
SEAHAWKS!!!!
potato cam ftw
As a Redskins fan I will say we will be no where NEAR the seahawks from last year, but I do truly believe we will win the NFC East just because the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants just aren't good enough to have a better record a better defense and healthy RG3
What? Rotfl every team in the east is chasing the eagles. ALL OF YALL. Eagles have the best team in the nfc east by a wide margin on both sides if the ball.u know nothing about football fool
l Tee Jay l The Eagels Secondary is no better then the Redskins, the Redskins have better linebackers, and their D-lines are about the same. The Eagles O-line is better, both run games are great, the Redskins passing game is better than the Eagles, so yeah I'd say the Redskins have a pretty good chance at winning the NFC East
Are you high? Redskins lost london fletcher. The only lb that is good is orakpo. But orakpo cant cover and neither can kerrigan. ALL of our lbs can cover and pass rush. Eagles had a top 10 rush defense and the only reasons our defense looked bad stat wise is cause they were on the field more than any other team by a lot of minutes. We also held our last 11 opponents to under 21 points.(excluding the viking game) the eagles had a mediocre wr corp last year right? Nobody called desean an elite wr they just said deep threat now we have 3 bigger fast wrs who can beat man cov something djax couldn't do.the redskins may have talent on offense but that doesnt mean they have a chance.it takes a team to win and right now they are just a bunch of players not a tram
l Tee Jay l Ryan Kerrigan is a two time pro bowler and he has only been in the nfl 3 years. So I would consider him good and so would common sense. London fletcher was worse than ray Lewis was his last year in the league slow and short he can be easily replaced on the field, maybe not leadership wise but definetly football wise. Everybody has a shot in the nfc east this year. And the eagles still didn't replace desean Jackson deep threat speed.
Benjamin Butler at least one person knows what they're talking about lol
Nope