Support me on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek Equipment used for this image: Cooled camera: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCYVzdb Celestron C6: bit.ly/3ocePVs Celestron C6 Hood: amzn.to/43ZB807 (Currently cheaper!) or bit.ly/3BWQHZW Hyperstar C6: starizona.com/products/hyperstar-6 Mini Computer (newer version): amzn.to/3LQTgTJ and amzn.to/3K6x2vy Antlia ALP-T highspeed filter: bit.ly/42RBR2e iOptron CEM70: bit.ly/431Ii2U (successor of the mount actually used, the CEM60)
Cuiv, if it were not for you I probobly wouldn't have gotten into this hobby. I live under the Los Angeles sky and would have figured that precluded me from the hobby. But the amazing images you are getting in Tokyo has been an inspiration. Thanks!
Same, I'm so glad I discovered his channel. I'm lucky enough to live under a Bortle 4 sky, but I'm still unlucky enough to have a street lamp directly beside our balcony, so I still have to haul my gear to a better location 😅
Hi Cuiv, Thanks for the video. I think one of the biggest lesson from you is that you have to be brave and try stuff and do it as often as possible even if the conditions are not optimal: 5 minutes exposures in Bortle 9? bahh, the target is low and there's haze?? bahh, full moon (on other videos)?? bahh
Another great image Cuiv. Just think, 15 - 20 years ago if you would show such an image, no one would have believed you did this with amateur equipment. The hardware and software available today is fantastic and improving almost daily.
That's a very nice image from Tokyo in a single night, gives us Bortle 7-8 imagers hope 👍 On a different topic I've been watching past TAIC a lot lately and every time they mention wanting more presenters I think of you and your battle against light pollution and having to manually do things, not sure if you'd be interested in being a presenter on that show but I would certainly enjoy hearing a longer and more in depth breakdown of some of your strategies and techniques for automated imaging in the heart of a major city, especially since I am in nearly the same situation being at the edge of a major city and having finally put together but not yet optimized my automated rig. Cheers for the work you put in informing the community and sharing your experiences.
Great image and great video, Cuiv! With your purchase of the Celestron dew shield, your Hyperstar rig is looking more and more like mine! It's fun to watch what you are able to achieve with it. Clear skies!
This video has inspired me to image the eagle nebula during my trip to a bortle 2 site that I’m leaving for in 6 hours as of this comment. I love your videos! Hopefully my 80mm fpl51 ED scope can do me justice 🤞
Hi Cuiv, couple of things; how about flocking the body of the camera (the outside of the barrel)? For the dreaded doughnut? The other thing was you inspired me to have a go at M16 the other night. Complete disaster, as the tracking kept dropping, destroying all but one single 90 second image. Amazingly, having used my Antlia dual band, narrowband filter, I was able to get my first image of the nebula ever, and it was so satisfying!
Well done on your image!! Even though a single exposure :-) I've thought about flocking but didn't want to harm cooling capability... With the dew shield it seems to be fixed so I won't touch it anymore :)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for taking the time to reply. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it :) For me, it would just be another tech challenge to work on. Maybe even coat the wires in glue, and cover in flocking powder (incredibly messy, but very effective). Last night I got another 80 or so 90s images, and once the caffeine kicks in, will start stacking.
Hi Cuiv. You gave me inspiration to point at this target while watching your live stream. Thank you so much. Did it from dark skies, using 8HD and L-Ultimate on EQ6R Pro. Although 10min exposures😂. It is an amazing object to photograph and the Pillars showed up great already with the first exposure. EDITING TIP: It would be great if you show your result at the end of the video with some panning, zooming and music to appreciate the beauty of the final result.😊
Cuiv, great job, love the work, I want to ask about the re-sampling process apply to reduce the drizzled image to 1x, do you loose a lot of resolution and detail? I will try it. Thanks
Have you tried Paulyman Astro's ForaxxPaletteUtility script for PI? I really like how it handles dual channel and SHO data, especially for the stars in dual channel narrowband data. For this image I would probably use that script to get stars for the image and just use SPCC without mucking with it too much beyond some saturation.. Guess I like those reds :)
Great video and I'm glad to see your c6 out again 👍 I'm in the works of designing and printing my own dew shield for the c6/hyperstar. What length is the celestron one? My first prototype will be around 25cm and I guess thats closer to your other one riding the newt?
Very nice!! Surprised at the detail considering such a low target. I was thinking of shooting the eagle but I never did because of that. After seeing this, I will have to give it a go, so thanks for shooting low!😆
Domo arigato for your informative videos Cuiv... how do you manage the cables from your camera through the aluminum dew shield? Aren't the power/data cables from the camera supposed to cross the light path in a kind of arc, thereby requiring two exit points on the dew shield where it has only one cable exit point? Anyway, would love to hear how you work around this situation.
Another fantastic video of a different setup as most youtuber. TLDR: Are 6inch SCTs good for imaging with reducers on 1inch mono sensor? You might be able to answer a question about the C6, since you're the only one that seems to be using one for imaging on TH-cam: I'm doing the budgetting for my next years in the hobby building around one of the cooled 533 mono cameras (after Lukomaticos video of the new Player One 533 probably that one) and the ZWO AM3 so that I can have good portability. For smaller targets I was considering a Meade 6 ACF SCT or a C6 since they seem pretty portable and the 1500mm focal length and with a x0,63 (950mm) and the starizona night owl (x0,4 = 600mm, once it release again) and with a barlow I can even try some planetary. In your first video with the C6 you said you weren't concerned about it not being an Edge HD wince you were going to be using the Hyperstar but since I plan to shoot mono i will need a filterwheel I can find no reviews for the Meade 6 or the C6 with that configuration. Thanks so much.
I would go Celestron, personally. Celestron let's you use the high quality reducers/flatteners made by Starizona (there's not just Hyperstar). Even an ACF will have trouble (coma is just one problem that's fixed)
I dropped my 6se secondary mirror while dedusting so what a better excuse to get a hyperstar 6 v4 I hope its as awesome as I feel it might be, Thanks for your videos!!!
Nice video Cuiv, helps. want to setup anti-dew for Celestron Edge 8? A few questions if you can advise please:
1. Is the Celestron dew shield still needed, if I setup the Celestron Dew Heater Ring?
2. If both are necessary i.e Dew shield and dew heater ring, will the dew shield sit securely on the tube? I am asking because the dew heater ring comes with strip attached on the rim, that holds the power sockets. I am not sure if that would hinder the shield securely sitting on it?
3. There are different tempareture regulators. One is the Celestron Dewheater power controller. But there are cheaper solutions like the svbony dewstrap power cable. Would anything work?
4. The regulation of power is imporant as I read; if we dont use the regulator, the standard 12v-3amp/5amp powers can cause optical aberrations / distortions in the images is what some have expressed. Any pointers on this please?
Hi Cuiv. I would be very happy with an image like that. I live in a supposedly bortle 5 area. It is true that the milky way is just visible when Cygnus is overhead. However there is a massive industrial complex ( mostly Airbus UK ) regional airport and retail park about a kilometre from my house to the North through NE which throws up a huge white curtain of light pollution. Polaris is barely visible as are most circumpolar constallations when at this altitude or lower. But I still managed to get my best ever image the other week (the North America Nebula) with Cygnus still pretty low down, also this was around full moon and at 53° N there was not a lot of darkness anyway. It wouldn't win any prizes but so what. Like you I do this for fun.
You should spray the inside of your 3d printed dew shield with "black 3.0" paint or flock it, the PLA material is reflective and might contribute to your issues. 😊
When you started using this dew shield did you have to stop using that "D" shaped 3d-printed part that routes your cables such that there are no diffraction spikes? I couldn't get the celestron dew shield on my C8 with the "D" cable guide, so I'd be very curious to see how you pulled it off if in fact you did :-)
Nice video Cuiv thanks 😊 What do you mean by the dithering was not good ? 3px/frames, do you mean that it should have been dithering less than 3px/frame ?
I believe he stated actual dither motions every 3 frames, which means that it doesn't shift the frame by a couple pixels until each third capture. This means that his effective dithered frame count is in the neighborhood of 10-20, not really enough for effective drizzling
I paused at 1:12 just to say that I'm bommed, I really though you would make a comparison video on single night hyperstar vs the fast newtonian... man please do something like that in a faint target please, I have a C8 and have been wondering if it is worth all trhe trouble to get a hyperstar for it... so expensive, so tricky... it's a project for the future but with a fast newtonian at f4 I wonder if it is worth it... I'm also under Bortle8-9 probably a bit better than you but bad anyways... please do a comparison, would be nice to be in the same night so the seeing and other conditions are the same. Now I will resume watching, just wanted to share my frustration hahahah!
Adding to that requests, the Antlia filter is 9nm and is suitable for f2, I imagine this is the best filter fro that as I recall you testing others too... so that against the Fast Newtoninan at f3.45 paired with the best 3nm duo band filter and similar camera, I believe you have a 533 sensor camera right? maybe the 533 cropped camera on the hyperstar and the 2600 sensor on the Newtonian would get you a closer FOV on the 2 images... anyway, would be a nice comparison on the best specs possible for both systems and what you can get from both in the best conditions possible
I understand why Japan would levy high tariffs for electronics but you would think that science & educational tools could have an exception carved out. We need a better nerd lobby.
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iOptron CEM70: bit.ly/431Ii2U (successor of the mount actually used, the CEM60)
Which filter drawer do you use with hyperstar?
@@starwatcher the one from Starizona, to make sure I have the right backspacing
I take a shot of Tequilla every time Cuiv says Tokyo so this was a good episode 🎉
Tokyo!!!! Here's a freebie for you lol
@@CuivTheLazyGeek🤣🤣 I too now have another reason to watch.
Great image Cuiv 👍
Thank you!
Fabulous image Cuiv. Your masterful processing skills also added to making the great image as well as the equipment. Cheers Kurt
Cuiv, if it were not for you I probobly wouldn't have gotten into this hobby. I live under the Los Angeles sky and would have figured that precluded me from the hobby. But the amazing images you are getting in Tokyo has been an inspiration.
Thanks!
Oh wow, I'm so glad I was able to inspire you!! Los Angeles is at least as bad as Tokyo, so respect!
Same, I'm so glad I discovered his channel. I'm lucky enough to live under a Bortle 4 sky, but I'm still unlucky enough to have a street lamp directly beside our balcony, so I still have to haul my gear to a better location 😅
Dave was here 😛 Happy you got the Celestron Aluminum Dew shield and glad it fixed you DoD issue 👍 Thanks for the video and clear skies!
Thanks as ever Dave!
Superb image from such a location with great processing
Thank you!!
Yes! Multiple rigs! I love running multiple rigs. Plenty of data to get you through the dry spells.
Exactly!!
Hi Cuiv,
Thanks for the video.
I think one of the biggest lesson from you is that you have to be brave and try stuff and do it as often as possible even if the conditions are not optimal: 5 minutes exposures in Bortle 9? bahh, the target is low and there's haze?? bahh, full moon (on other videos)?? bahh
Hahaha exactly! Just throw stuff at the heavens and see what sticks!
Another great image Cuiv. Just think, 15 - 20 years ago if you would show such an image, no one would have believed you did this with amateur equipment. The hardware and software available today is fantastic and improving almost daily.
Absolutely right, crazy how tech has improved!
Thank flocking news that you are still using the 3D printed Dew Sheild
Very nice Cuiv.... from Tokyo, unbelievable results. 👍👍
Thank you!!
That's a very nice image from Tokyo in a single night, gives us Bortle 7-8 imagers hope 👍
On a different topic I've been watching past TAIC a lot lately and every time they mention wanting more presenters I think of you and your battle against light pollution and having to manually do things, not sure if you'd be interested in being a presenter on that show but I would certainly enjoy hearing a longer and more in depth breakdown of some of your strategies and techniques for automated imaging in the heart of a major city, especially since I am in nearly the same situation being at the edge of a major city and having finally put together but not yet optimized my automated rig.
Cheers for the work you put in informing the community and sharing your experiences.
Thanks Harley! Btw I've been on TAIC talking about LP in the past! Can't remember when though!
Interesting! I'll have to go and dig through their past broadcasts and have a look!
Always inspiring and educating - thank you Cuiv!
My pleasure!
Awesome presentation, sir! Bravo!
Super impressive Cuiv
Great image and great video, Cuiv! With your purchase of the Celestron dew shield, your Hyperstar rig is looking more and more like mine! It's fun to watch what you are able to achieve with it. Clear skies!
Estabrook, I’ve seen your work on Astrobin while researching c6 + Hyperstar, nice work and prolific too.
Thanks so much!!
This video has inspired me to image the eagle nebula during my trip to a bortle 2 site that I’m leaving for in 6 hours as of this comment. I love your videos! Hopefully my 80mm fpl51 ED scope can do me justice 🤞
I hope you had a good trip, enjoy the imaging!
Very well done with such a low target Cuiv it is a great image
Thank you!!
Hi Cuiv, couple of things; how about flocking the body of the camera (the outside of the barrel)? For the dreaded doughnut? The other thing was you inspired me to have a go at M16 the other night. Complete disaster, as the tracking kept dropping, destroying all but one single 90 second image. Amazingly, having used my Antlia dual band, narrowband filter, I was able to get my first image of the nebula ever, and it was so satisfying!
Well done on your image!! Even though a single exposure :-) I've thought about flocking but didn't want to harm cooling capability... With the dew shield it seems to be fixed so I won't touch it anymore :)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for taking the time to reply. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it :) For me, it would just be another tech challenge to work on. Maybe even coat the wires in glue, and cover in flocking powder (incredibly messy, but very effective). Last night I got another 80 or so 90s images, and once the caffeine kicks in, will start stacking.
You are making that OSC camera sing, man! This is extremely impressive.
Thank you!
Hi Cuiv. You gave me inspiration to point at this target while watching your live stream. Thank you so much. Did it from dark skies, using 8HD and L-Ultimate on EQ6R Pro. Although 10min exposures😂. It is an amazing object to photograph and the Pillars showed up great already with the first exposure. EDITING TIP: It would be great if you show your result at the end of the video with some panning, zooming and music to appreciate the beauty of the final result.😊
Glad I could motivate you Lubo, and thanks for the tip!!
Cuiv, great job, love the work, I want to ask about the re-sampling process apply to reduce the drizzled image to 1x, do you loose a lot of resolution and detail? I will try it. Thanks
You lose a lot of resolution and maybe some details, but gain SNR!
Have you tried Paulyman Astro's ForaxxPaletteUtility script for PI? I really like how it handles dual channel and SHO data, especially for the stars in dual channel narrowband data. For this image I would probably use that script to get stars for the image and just use SPCC without mucking with it too much beyond some saturation.. Guess I like those reds :)
I haven't! But then I've used the Foraxx palette quite a bit - I prefer the results I get with Bill's processes, so it's all a matter of taste!
Thank you, always awesome content Cuiv.
The Antlia ALP-T 48mm is £398 in the UK from FLO.
I think i'll stick with the IDAS NBZ...
That's not cheap for sure!
Great video and I'm glad to see your c6 out again 👍
I'm in the works of designing and printing my own dew shield for the c6/hyperstar. What length is the celestron one? My first prototype will be around 25cm and I guess thats closer to your other one riding the newt?
Very nice!! Surprised at the detail considering such a low target. I was thinking of shooting the eagle but I never did because of that. After seeing this, I will have to give it a go, so thanks for shooting low!😆
Good luck with your imaging!
Domo arigato for your informative videos Cuiv... how do you manage the cables from your camera through the aluminum dew shield? Aren't the power/data cables from the camera supposed to cross the light path in a kind of arc, thereby requiring two exit points on the dew shield where it has only one cable exit point? Anyway, would love to hear how you work around this situation.
I have the same dew shield for my orange 6" Schmidt Cassegrain. $89, no shipping fee. Wish the dew shield was orange.
Another fantastic video of a different setup as most youtuber.
TLDR: Are 6inch SCTs good for imaging with reducers on 1inch mono sensor?
You might be able to answer a question about the C6, since you're the only one that seems to be using one for imaging on TH-cam: I'm doing the budgetting for my next years in the hobby building around one of the cooled 533 mono cameras (after Lukomaticos video of the new Player One 533 probably that one) and the ZWO AM3 so that I can have good portability.
For smaller targets I was considering a Meade 6 ACF SCT or a C6 since they seem pretty portable and the 1500mm focal length and with a x0,63 (950mm) and the starizona night owl (x0,4 = 600mm, once it release again) and with a barlow I can even try some planetary.
In your first video with the C6 you said you weren't concerned about it not being an Edge HD wince you were going to be using the Hyperstar but since I plan to shoot mono i will need a filterwheel I can find no reviews for the Meade 6 or the C6 with that configuration.
Thanks so much.
I would go Celestron, personally. Celestron let's you use the high quality reducers/flatteners made by Starizona (there's not just Hyperstar). Even an ACF will have trouble (coma is just one problem that's fixed)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thanks! Maybe in the time I wait to get the money celestron release a c6 HD xD
I dropped my 6se secondary mirror while dedusting so what a better excuse to get a hyperstar 6 v4 I hope its as awesome as I feel it might be, Thanks for your videos!!!
Nice video Cuiv, helps.
want to setup anti-dew for Celestron Edge 8?
A few questions if you can advise please:
1. Is the Celestron dew shield still needed, if I setup the Celestron Dew Heater Ring?
2. If both are necessary i.e Dew shield and dew heater ring, will the dew shield sit securely on the tube? I am asking because the dew heater ring comes with strip attached on the rim, that holds the power sockets. I am not sure if that would hinder the shield securely sitting on it?
3. There are different tempareture regulators. One is the Celestron Dewheater power controller. But there are cheaper solutions like the svbony dewstrap power cable. Would anything work?
4. The regulation of power is imporant as I read; if we dont use the regulator, the standard 12v-3amp/5amp powers can cause optical aberrations / distortions in the images is what some have expressed. Any pointers on this please?
Thanks
I'm thinking that part of the cause of your donuts of death is the reflection from your pretty blue camera. Maybe?
It's definitely possible! But I wasn't willing to paint it black or flock it!
Hi Cuiv. I would be very happy with an image like that. I live in a supposedly bortle 5 area. It is true that the milky way is just visible when Cygnus is overhead. However there is a massive industrial complex ( mostly Airbus UK ) regional airport and retail park about a kilometre from my house to the North through NE which throws up a huge white curtain of light pollution. Polaris is barely visible as are most circumpolar constallations when at this altitude or lower. But I still managed to get my best ever image the other week (the North America Nebula) with Cygnus still pretty low down, also this was around full moon and at 53° N there was not a lot of darkness anyway. It wouldn't win any prizes but so what. Like you I do this for fun.
Oh wow such a shame a beautiful Bortle 5 is destroyed by that airport :-(
You should spray the inside of your 3d printed dew shield with "black 3.0" paint or flock it, the PLA material is reflective and might contribute to your issues. 😊
I had already flocked it!!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek awesome! I had to do the same. 😊
Merci Cuiv !
Tout le plaisir est pour moi ;)
When you started using this dew shield did you have to stop using that "D" shaped 3d-printed part that routes your cables such that there are no diffraction spikes?
I couldn't get the celestron dew shield on my C8 with the "D" cable guide, so I'd be very curious to see how you pulled it off if in fact you did :-)
Cuiv, what is your verdict of this dew shield? I am shopping for one now. What do you think is the best dew shield for hyperstar setup?
Do you ever go to darker skies and take pictures? or do you stay close to home all the time?
I try to, and usually fail (weather, etc)
Bill Blanshan recommends not using SPCC with OSC Narrowband when using his HOO script. Also, unlinked stretch not linked stretch.
What an amazing image! Which star reduction method did you use before you used Bill Blanshans pixelmath script?
The EZ Star Reduction in the EZ processing script suite
It’s fun when you win.
Nice video Cuiv thanks 😊
What do you mean by the dithering was not good ? 3px/frames, do you mean that it should have been dithering less than 3px/frame ?
I believe he stated actual dither motions every 3 frames, which means that it doesn't shift the frame by a couple pixels until each third capture. This means that his effective dithered frame count is in the neighborhood of 10-20, not really enough for effective drizzling
Exactly explained there thank you!
Cuive you are so suuper!. How can I buy your cool T Shirt? Greetings from Hamburg
Thanks so much! The t-shirt should be available here: cuivthelazygeek.myspreadshop.com/
I paused at 1:12 just to say that I'm bommed, I really though you would make a comparison video on single night hyperstar vs the fast newtonian... man please do something like that in a faint target please, I have a C8 and have been wondering if it is worth all trhe trouble to get a hyperstar for it... so expensive, so tricky... it's a project for the future but with a fast newtonian at f4 I wonder if it is worth it... I'm also under Bortle8-9 probably a bit better than you but bad anyways... please do a comparison, would be nice to be in the same night so the seeing and other conditions are the same. Now I will resume watching, just wanted to share my frustration hahahah!
Adding to that requests, the Antlia filter is 9nm and is suitable for f2, I imagine this is the best filter fro that as I recall you testing others too... so that against the Fast Newtoninan at f3.45 paired with the best 3nm duo band filter and similar camera, I believe you have a 533 sensor camera right? maybe the 533 cropped camera on the hyperstar and the 2600 sensor on the Newtonian would get you a closer FOV on the 2 images... anyway, would be a nice comparison on the best specs possible for both systems and what you can get from both in the best conditions possible
I will at some point, be patient ;) the Antlia is 5nm bandpasses btw
@@CuivTheLazyGeek waiting patiently… nope that’s a lie, hahaha, waiting impatiently!!! That’s better!
I understand why Japan would levy high tariffs for electronics but you would think that science & educational tools could have an exception carved out. We need a better nerd lobby.
Yes that is for sure... Astro stuff here is expensive...
Something jumped out at me at 18:26.
That is a woman, sleeping.
I still don't see it!!
Oooo
Aaaaaaa :)
I can’t stop seeing the side of a face of a woman sleeping wearing a sleeping hat or a clown. Once seen it can’t be unseen. Sigh.
I absolutely have no idea how to see this so I'm glad I'm unable at this stage lol
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Oh most definitely. Don't try because, like I mentioned, once seen you can't unsee it. LOL.
it wasnt until now that I realised your username says "geek" and not "greek"... *facepalm*
Hahahaha you're not the first and likely not the last!