@@gulpingulpin3910 Oh yeah, it's totally that. I think it's even in the same order (besides the extra ones like head, body, and skin). Which if it is, I think the next one would probably be "no eyes" and/or "no mind/brain".
What would be actual worst is if there WAS a random secret controller message in the mystery man room but there's a further 1 in x chance for it to display.
Imagine if Toby had just casually dropped the ENTIRE CANON LORE for the Mystery Man and his followers inside of that "No Controller Connected" screen. Seems like a fitting reward for the astronomical amount of effort required to reach it.
@@gamingcookiereal Wingdings, in a font that's too hard to read. Translated through 70 different languages, and written backwards just for good measure. The result? "This single character has literally no importance to the lore of Undertale whatsoever."
@@turking25 Sadly I don't think it would work as it just outputs the data to the pixels that are available. *HOWEVER*, if someone has a screen that has a strange aspect ratio, being taller than wide, or a just square, this may actually work. (Makes me think of the 5:4 lcd monitors that were common in office spaces 20 years ago) This is untested however and I don't know if the xbox accept monitors with aspect ratios other than 16:9 16:10 which is the most common ratios of standard monitors and TVs
If I had to guess, I'd expect "eyes", which is "me" (アイズ or め) or soul which is "tamashi" (ソール or 魂). There are other words with similar meanings to "soul" so you might wanna check those out.
Hm.... "eyes" is probably on the list somewhere, but it doesn't seem to be the next word, as the "イ" in アイズ should clip and thus be visible. "me" (either め or メ) both clip as well, and they're only 1 character long, when it needs to be at least 3. Unless this is one of those cases where the "イ" is a half-width kana? But I haven't seen him do that for any of the other letters, so it'd be a combo breaker. "ソール" So-ru (soul) could work though! The letters are short enough, and the spacing fits. It'd be a surprising way to write "soul" but not impossible.
ソール is just "soru", though, not "tamashi" (and iirc the 魂 kanji is only read as "tama" in modern Japanese, and as tamashii historically, as in た-ま-し-い, four symbols). And eyes would be most likely written as メ or め, not "aizu". the message doesn't seem to be complicating things, it only uses kana and Japanese words. I just booted up Undertale and "soul" is consistently spelled as タマシイ (four characters) in the game, at least by Flowey in the first interaction, and the library book in Snowdin (saves I had easily accessible).
I feel like in True Toby fashion, having there be a unique message would only draw further attention to the mysteryman, when its obscurity is sort of its priority, right?
Yeah, and having easy to find but random and barely connected little bits really fits the whole theme with mystery man and/or gaster better than any one big lore dump as well.
The missing controller messages could have so many weird secrets still hidden, for example, if one needed you to be in a room long enough, or in a specific route. I whonder, if the "no mouth connected" line, that was edited in at 3:28 was pure coincidence, or if it was edited after the japanese extra line was discovered by hbc. This channel will always be a highlight of the day for me.
I had that moment mid-video editing where I deeply wanted to put the Japanese discovery in that part of the video, but it would have broken up the script in a way that required a lot of extra work and time to fix, so I got the energy out indirectly by sneaking that in there. 🤣
@@normanclatcher i have no idea what to put here to show how i feel about this comment in text, but all i can say right now is i like how you randomly sneaked that there.
Explaining to my gf why bread uses TTS and she said to me “maybe they’re a celebrity. Like maybe they’re scarjo” and now I can’t stop thinking of Scarlet Johansson sitting down and logging into the half bread chaos TH-cam channel to make undertale and deltarune theories
4:44 this video popped up in my subscription box right above a video titled “playing undertale until I find gaster day 82” and it added a layer of comedy to this entire section of the video
It would’ve been funny if it just said something like “The mystery man is not Gaster”, or “he’s not you think he is” yes to deconfirm that theory in the most anticlimactic, comedic way possible.
@@-Teague- Toby removed the Gaster tarot card from the official tarot card deck specifically because the design was based off Mystery Man. Either Mystery Man isn't Gaster the way we think he is or he's not Gaster at all
@@softsounds8453 what if it’s because our perception of Gaster is wrong. Like, to put him on the card would show exactly what he looks like, and I personally wouldn’t want to straight up tell people what the MYSTERY MAN looks like if I were Toby, especially if it is noticeable different than what the community thinks.
3:25 So apparently they finally managed to datamine the Xbox version, and after "No face is connected" it says _No mouth is connected._ _No heart is connected._ _No teeth are connected._ _No heart is connected._ (yes apparently the "No heart is connected." is actually there twice, which is... _interesting_ to say the least, it seems to be intentional since this also applies to the Japanese version)
There's also an unused message in the controller code: * (It's a picture of a dog juggling several balls.) * (You feel satisfaction that your hard work reverse engineering the encryption of the Xbox One has finally paid off.)
The very obscure things this channels finds is crazy and very interesting at the same time. Idk how a simple controller disconnected Easter egg can become a rabbit hole.
Imagine this happened instead. *Finally gets the gray door* *Disconnects controller next to the door* only for a normal message* *Goes inside the Gaster room and disconnects controller for the same result* *Talks to Gaster, waits for him to completely disappear, and disconnects controller* "No Controller Connected." "Never gonna give you up."
@@flare5282 i think something like "No Controller Connected. Was there ever a controller?" or something similar would be kinda cool, it would fit in with Goner Kid's dialogue
NO EYE NO EAR NO NOSE NO HAND NO BODY NO MIND NO SHAPE NO SHAPE this is the "lyrics" of Yoshimitsu's fight music in Tekken Tag Tournament. though it is taken, with mild modification, from a line in the buddhist heart sutra: "Śāriputra, therefore, in emptiness there is no form, no feeling, no perception, no formations, no consciousness, no eye, no ear, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind, no form, no sound, no smell, no taste, no texture, and no mental object." so obviously the True Lab thing isn't quite a quote from either, but it seems… inspired to me. and the music pretty fun.
....hm. that actually reminds me vaguely of a part of Earthbound. It's been a while since I've played, so I'm not certain, but it sounds very familiar.
The off-screen body part may be the "ココロ" (mind/heart). I believe that the mind is the most important part of a person's being a person. I think it makes sense to lose it last. (Translated from Japanese to English using DeepL translation. Sorry if any of the words are strange.)
Your sentence mostly makes sense though the part where you mentioned “the most important part of a person’s being a person” is a bit odd sounding. The sentence would have sounded better I imagine if it was “I believe that the mind of a person is the most important part of them.” instead
Xbox finally got dumped, and the full message reads: No head is connected. No body is connected. No arms are connected. No legs are connected. No skin is connected. No ears are connected. No face is connected No mouth is connected. No heart is connected. No teeth are connected. No heart is connected. yes, heart is repeated twice. There's also an unused message in the code that says: * (It's a picture of a dog juggling several balls.) * (You feel satisfaction that your hard work reverse engineering the encryption of the Xbox One has finally paid off.)
The disconnected body parts might be a reference to the meditation scene in Earthbound, where Poo is instructed to meditate on a peak and a spirit basically took away his body piece by piece. It ended with the spirit taking away his mind.
Minor correction at 5:46, Pirouette doesn't use RNG at all, it's actually coded to always do a certain thing on a certain number turn, you can see this on the wiki
Yep! Hence the note at the top that says "turn 6 always heals." I suppose that was a bit obscure of me though, I was attempting to reference the Deltarune Anniversary Stream in which Toby says "all chaos is ordered." I probably could have made the reference more obvious if I'd used the clip said stream instead of random Jevil footage. Ah well, hindsight's 20/20. At least I managed to stop myself last minute from using the "golf" game when illustrating the concept behind RNG manipulation.
Actually that's a funny story. It was *always* in the game, but it was bugged and never showed up. Except in the xbox version, due to a gamemaker update, something changed about the execution order and this text started showing up again.
i feel like the No Controller Connected message at the lab is a way to say something with our connection between the Player and the Character, since No Controller is connected, there's no control over the Character from the Player at the moment.
To me it seems like the true lab disconnected message kinda draws some parallel to the Survey Program where you make the vessel or whatever it was called?
I feel like he could've just turned it into wing dings in that room. It's the same message, it doesn't spoil anything, but there's at least a cool detail in there.
Knowing Toby, the disconnection message in the True Lab is definitely a callback to that "Moo" training in Earthbound with similarly eerie dialogue. Poor Poo.
I don't have friends that know much about deltarune/ut but I do like to talk about it to them every now and then (i especially enjoy telling them out of context things about it) And this is the type of video that makes me think that if I ever tried to explain this to them (like how you can tell rng by the wiggles of the letters) they would think I'm absolutely insane. (That being said I really enjoy this type of content, it's just a good fun time, keep up the good work)
Hey I know this is completely off-topic regarding the topic of the video but I've wanted to tell you something regarding Elemental Pairs. I think, and this is really only vaguely supported by the game, that Fire and Light element pairs together. That is to say, Fire produces Lights so it would sort of make sense. Following the logic the opposite would also be true. Water would pair up with Dark, because Water diffuses Light. The ocean is very Dark, with no Light in there, so that logic makes sense to me. I'm bringing this up because in the game Dark can be somewhat associated with Water/Ocean. From Kris hearing an Ocean sound when first going into a Dark World, the Song from the Ocean that Onionsan has heard but does not remember and Riverperson - someone who works around Water - also knowing said song, and Riverperson being a somewhat 'dark' figure that knows a lot about strange things like for example Gaster. Jevil also says "Hells's roars bubbles from the depths" the usage of the word bubble could be to infer that Dark behaves liquid-like in some capacity. This is just some food for thought that I thought it would be nice to let you know.
@@FroststormFrenzy However that line is referring to the elements the sky mantle protects against, holy/electric, to my knowledge light isn't even an element.
@@pineappleudh6561 Noelle and Ralsei's Healing Prayer reads as a "Heavenly Light" and while there is no enemy that uses the Light element yet, I think It'd even weird if Light wasn't an actual element in the game all things considered.
Imagine if there WAS a secret message, but it just had a low chance of appearing. Like it replaces the "No Controlli is Conoli" message. And it might just be as simple as Controller disconected from the universe please reconnect to the universe.
I kinda wish that in the mystery room the disconnect message was in wingdings, and then when translated just said the normal "No controller is connected" tbh
You deserve a huge applause. I've been watching your videos for a while now, and this here is just absolutely insane. The fact that you really didn't give up on trying to figure out a solution for something so crazy... Is completely impressive. Bravo, I'm definitely subscribing, can't wait to watch your future content :)
Hey HalfBread, I’m not sure if need or want more video ideas, but here are some things I think it would be interesting to see: -An analysis on how Kris’s friend group seems to correspond to the five stages of grief (Berdly = Denial, Susie = Anger, Kris = Bargaining, Noelle = Depression, and Ralsei = Acceptance) and speculation on what it could mean for these characters’ in future chapters and in their backstories if this correlation is intentional. -Various analyses on Undertale and Deltarune’s narrators on things like: evidence for and against Chara being the narrator, how Chara could have become the narrator (personally I think it is due to Chara’s soul being destroyed from being in Asriel when he died, which normally can’t happen to human soul because they persist after death, but I don’t have any evidence for that), and on patterns in the Deltarune narration and who the narrator or narrators could be. -An analysis on who Suzy could be. (Assuming Suzy isn’t just a reference to Susie, but refers to a different character we meet in Chapter 1)
ive seen av good analysis on who the deltarune narrator is by andrew cunningham (iirc his conclusion was that in deltarune the narrator is not meant to be an in game character like chara was for undertale. itsjust a narrator)
The disconnection message in the True Lab makes me think of the vessel creation sequence in Chapter 1 of Deltarune. Where, in Deltarune, we were prompted to choose different body parts from a selection of them, this speaks of a possible reversion of that theme, where the disconnection of the Player is an inverse to the "connection" we were building in that sequence. That, and the vessel in particular being shown to have no face (further enforced by Kris and Susie's interactions with the Angel doll in Rudy's hospital room), makes the idea of the reference even more chilling. It's like it's enforcing how terrible and inhuman that vessel is by pointing out how it has no ears or face or mouth. Like how it's existence is fully dependent on the Player for a sense of true identity, and without any connection, it's nothing but a hollow, blank slate. To tie it back to Undertale, since Chara is our narrator, and assuming this is Chara speaking during this instance, they feel a similar sense of dissociation during this sequence, since they too are tied inexorably to the Player's direction and sense of identity, as shown by how their behavior shifts and changes depending on our actions. This only enforces the underlying narrative ties between Undertale and Deltarune for me.
9:17 Let's be honest. When you see how the fandom is crazy enought to dig into game and its most absurd details endlessly, Toby COULD allow himself to put crazy easter eggs at terribles places and timong that would be hell to get. And he could trust us to find it one day because we WILL think about it.
I've been trying every idea I can think of for that missing Japanese word and I've got nothing better than Koyubi to show for it. Eyes, hair, tongue, shoulder, fingernail, teeth, forehead, nose, brain. Nothing lends itself to a three-character word using the allowed letters. .....or maybe not. I just found one as I was typing this. Heart -> Kokoro -> ココロ After that much process of elimination, and between Pinky Finger and Heart? I think I may have just found our answer. Also important to note: In Japanese, Heart and Mind are often interchangable, and Kokoro can mean any of heart/mind/spirit easily. And I can honestly see any of those three being the missing word here. But considering the existing pattern, I believe Heart to be the most likely of the three.
How is it that still, after all these years I find out about stuff about this game I haven't known about yet. The controller easter egg completely went over my head for years. I still wonder if Toby left more weird stuff in the console versions of the game since he'd know we can't dig through those easily.
Not sure if this is any help, but aside from “skin,” it seems to be saying the body parts in the same order you’d say them in hangman. That is to say, hang *man* …
There should be one for Sans' fight, where it asks something along the lines of "Running..? I guess you could try." or "Running..?" or "Trying to run are you?" or "You can't run after what you did." There there should be one for when you go back to see Asriel after his fight. Then there should be one just after when Asriel transforms into his taller form and Hope and Dreams starts playing, where it says "Aww! But it was just getting good!" or "And it was just getting good!" or "Really? Now?! It was just getting to the good part!" Then another while talking to Chara that probably says "=)". Then if you try to unplug it while Chara's attacking you or right after, then the death message that appears after (if there is one) will say "Nice try, but you can't escape this." Then if you do it after Chara goes to destroy a new world and waiting for more text it'll s say "You'd lose control just to see something, anything, huh?" Then if you do it after striking sans for the last time and right before it presses it on it's own, it should say "Return to your false control."
Hello, fellow semi-Japanese speaker here! I may have spent too much time overthinking the last question about the cut off True Lab text LOL but anyways the only thing I could come up with that's actually plausible is possibly kokoro (ココロ) which translates to heart and would probably make the most sense, although kokoro usually refers to heart in the metaphorical sense and not the literal sense (which would be shinzou, or シンゾウ). I did consider tamashii and/or soul in katakana since that's what the Japanese translation of the game refers to the soul as I think, but tamashii (タマシイ) is four characters and soul (ソウル) has the ウ that would stick out so it's probably not those two.
4:32 Playing the game a thousand times would still only land you with a ~63% chance of getting the door. 2000 times is an ~86% chance. 3000 times is a ~95% chance. 4603 times is the lowest amount of attempts to get a better than 99% chance. 6905 attempts is when you reverse the odds (meaning if you attempt this many times, the odds of getting the door are the same as NOT getting the door in a single attempt).
What I find most interesting about the console-exclusive stuff is that it seems to be canon-the alarm clock dialogue confirms that Mad Mew Mew is, well, herself, and that the Holiday family existed in the Undertale universe. In other words, if the Waterfall door had any new dialogue, the Undertale theorist group would upend itself.
Off topic, but I find it weird that people disregard great content creators for using text to speech, like it's inherently a bad thing. Here in latin america if you use TTS/Loquendo you become based and recieve respect instantly.
BOUNDARY BREAK!? What do you guys think!? HalfBreadChaos, there's a video on Shesez's channel about him spreading the view of the screen out. Maybe if you find a way to manipulate it on Xbox, then you can see the whole message?
Im gonna start making predictions as to what the Katakana could be. (Wild predictions) こきゅ - Breathing てくび - Wrist せなか - Back おしり ... まぶた - Eyelids こぶし - Fist おなか - Stomach かかと - Heels ちょう - Intestines I'm not the greatest Japanese speaker but if I think of more I'll edit this comment. :)
ココロ（mind）がせつぞくされていません。 テアシ（hands and feet）がせつぞくされていません。 アンヨ（feet, old way of saying in Japanese ）がせつぞくされていません。 I'm Japanese, but All I came up with which match the rules are them. テクビ（hands）（in this case,”ク” is visible.） コエ（voice）（the numbers don't match.） These are the other things I thought. However, I think "ココロ" is correct. I am sorry that my English is not good.
Just started watching the video and got to the Nintendo switch clam girl part. Which actually reminded me of a theory I have. What if gaster is from deltarune? And not from Undertale at all. And all of the goners and gaster followers we see in Undertale are actually their deltarune counterparts. What if gaster’s creation is deltarune? And he, and some of the monsters in the town of deltarune, “fall into his creation”? All of the goners and gaster followers have a deltarune counterpart. The goner kid could be a childlike piece of monster kid, or Toby hadn’t decided to age up MK at that time in development for deltarune and assumed he would keep MK looking the same in both games. And clam girl switching into a goner form could be because that piece of her from deltarune found her Undertale counterpart and attached herself to it, waiting for the right time to show herself and warn the player. Perhaps the roaring is the true incident that shatters gaster. Perhaps we’re looking at this all wrong.
I think the final line of Japanese text when parts are disconnected is a 2 character word. The " in ぞ (zo) It doesn't align with all the other lines and every line is centered. I think it's のう, ノウ or nou, or in English: brain
Fun fact: I got the mystery man door and hallway on my first playthrough and was very confused. I wish it would happen again but I guess dream luck only happens once.
I feel like if I were Tobyand I DID put an easter egg there, it’d have to be Entry 17. It’s not technically a new easter egg thus the risk of alienating fans goes away, AND the fans get confirmation that the Mysteryman is Gaster
I kind of wonder if this is an Earthbound reference? During the Mu training in Dalaam, the spirit of Poo's ancestors comes to him in a meditative trance and, one by one, takes away his legs, his arms, his ears, his eyes, and his mind - and by extension, his feelings. Looking at the Japanese version, it appears the word used here is こころ - or, in katakana, ココロ, which has already been speculated elsewhere.
im no expert on japanese, but maybe "No eye is connected"? Edit: forgot to clarify that I was talking about the Japanese text right below "No mouth detected" Second edit: just read some of the comments, the word "Eye" or "Eyes" were ruled out, sorry!
If you can get the game files of the XBox version of Undertale on a PC, there *should* be no need to decompile it in order to be able to read text strings in the game's code files. If you open a binary file in a hex editor, you could search for the beginning of the text we are looking for (this would have to be attempted in several encodings though, bc who knows, it could be ASCII, UTF-8 or even UTF-16) anyways great video as always!
It's not "little finger" because ゆ pokes over the top. ゅ isn't the same, it comes after certain characters to change the sound (e.g. し/shi + ゅ/little yu = "shu") and doesn't stand on its own. In katakana, it works, but I still think "little finger" is unlikely lol. The issue with this is that ALL the body parts are spelled in katakana regardless of whether it's normally spelled with hiragana or not--except for body, "どうたい". This means it's likely a normally-hiragana word spelled in katakana, or a katakana word. Some possibilities are: テアシ (teashi; hands and feet) ファー (faa; fur) ココロ (kokoro; mind/heart/spirit)
The disconnection message in the True Lab should be taken as an illustration of what it _feels like to be an amalgamate._
I thought it was a earthbound reference to when poo meditates
@@gulpingulpin3910it can be both
@@gulpingulpin3910 Oh yeah, it's totally that. I think it's even in the same order (besides the extra ones like head, body, and skin). Which if it is, I think the next one would probably be "no eyes" and/or "no mind/brain".
that was my first thought actually!
i thought it was a referenceto flowey but i guess he is similar to amalgamates
What would be actual worst is if there WAS a random secret controller message in the mystery man room but there's a further 1 in x chance for it to display.
Sup skawo
@@TheRealSuperKirby Hello.
That would be such a Toby Fox thing to do
or you have to disconnect it at the EXACT moment he starts to disappear or something
toby wouldnt do that he was born with a SOUL
The message when you unplug during papyrus’s date is the funniest for me
It sounds like Papyrus is saying it
true, i mean why wouldnt u get excited hanging out/dating a cool skeleton
imagine you get the gray door and unplug your controller and it just says "please go touch grass"
I think that is great.
He would omg
Or say "Don't you have anything better to do?"
@@cdmilky
OMG FLOWEY?!?!?!?
xD
Beautiful
Immagine if the controller disconnecting screen was the biggest piece of the puzzle piece of gaster lore ever lmao
what if gaster WAS the controller
@@maskitoad no
@@darltrash what if *you’re* the controller
@@maskitoad undertale but you play as the controller as gaster
no gaster connected
please connect a gaster
Imagine if Toby had just casually dropped the ENTIRE CANON LORE for the Mystery Man and his followers inside of that "No Controller Connected" screen.
Seems like a fitting reward for the astronomical amount of effort required to reach it.
the best part about that is anyone who shows it off has a big chance of getting called a liar and it would cause so much discourse in the fandom
@@iceflame248 Toby Fox Drops Gaster Lore That Turns The Undertale Fandom Into World War III: The Experience
*_GUYS I DID IT! THERE'S FINALLY GASTER LORE!_*
(Unplugs controller)
"He just a silly little guy. A skrunkly. A scrimbo, one might even say."
...
but it's in a font too small to read
@@gamingcookiereal Wingdings, in a font that's too hard to read. Translated through 70 different languages, and written backwards just for good measure.
The result?
"This single character has literally no importance to the lore of Undertale whatsoever."
If you could somehow monitor the memory of the console while the game is running, you may be able to obtain the text that is off screen.
yea, by jailbreaking it.
@@modmaniamadness good luck jailbreaking an Xbox
if you could somehow monitor the monitor of the console while the game is running, you may be able to obtain the text that is on screen.
@@turking25 Sadly I don't think it would work as it just outputs the data to the pixels that are available.
*HOWEVER*, if someone has a screen that has a strange aspect ratio, being taller than wide, or a just square, this may actually work. (Makes me think of the 5:4 lcd monitors that were common in office spaces 20 years ago)
This is untested however and I don't know if the xbox accept monitors with aspect ratios other than 16:9 16:10 which is the most common ratios of standard monitors and TVs
@@AlbySilly I think they were making a joke
Chaos always bringing the best conclusions to questions nobody asked but always wanted to know
what
Why did I read the word chaos in Jevil’s voice?
If I had to guess, I'd expect "eyes", which is "me" (アイズ or め) or soul which is "tamashi" (ソール or 魂). There are other words with similar meanings to "soul" so you might wanna check those out.
no soul connected sounds about right
When I saw no ears, the next thing I thought of is that there has to be one for eyes
combining this with the other comment thread about it doubling as an earthbound reference, "eyes" seems like the most likely option.
Hm.... "eyes" is probably on the list somewhere, but it doesn't seem to be the next word, as the "イ" in アイズ should clip and thus be visible. "me" (either め or メ) both clip as well, and they're only 1 character long, when it needs to be at least 3.
Unless this is one of those cases where the "イ" is a half-width kana? But I haven't seen him do that for any of the other letters, so it'd be a combo breaker.
"ソール" So-ru (soul) could work though! The letters are short enough, and the spacing fits. It'd be a surprising way to write "soul" but not impossible.
ソール is just "soru", though, not "tamashi"
(and iirc the 魂 kanji is only read as "tama" in modern Japanese, and as tamashii historically, as in た-ま-し-い, four symbols). And eyes would be most likely written as メ or め, not "aizu". the message doesn't seem to be complicating things, it only uses kana and Japanese words. I just booted up Undertale and "soul" is consistently spelled as タマシイ (four characters) in the game, at least by Flowey in the first interaction, and the library book in Snowdin (saves I had easily accessible).
I feel like in True Toby fashion, having there be a unique message would only draw further attention to the mysteryman, when its obscurity is sort of its priority, right?
Yeah, and having easy to find but random and barely connected little bits really fits the whole theme with mystery man and/or gaster better than any one big lore dump as well.
Wasn't Mystery Man already famous by the time of the Xbox port, though?
@MetaKaios Yeah, but only by the nature of the internet and fandom. Toby Fox himself does his best to keep him an obscurity.
@@Chowder_T tarot card.
@@generallyunimportant made by a second party, changed by toby. the gaster card isn't in the official deck.
The missing controller messages could have so many weird secrets still hidden, for example, if one needed you to be in a room long enough, or in a specific route. I whonder, if the "no mouth connected" line, that was edited in at 3:28 was pure coincidence, or if it was edited after the japanese extra line was discovered by hbc. This channel will always be a highlight of the day for me.
"I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream"
I had that moment mid-video editing where I deeply wanted to put the Japanese discovery in that part of the video, but it would have broken up the script in a way that required a lot of extra work and time to fix, so I got the energy out indirectly by sneaking that in there. 🤣
@@normanclatcher i have no idea what to put here to show how i feel about this comment in text, but all i can say right now is i like how you randomly sneaked that there.
@@normanclatcher why does that sound canon
@@HalfBreadChaos Honestly, those were some interesting odds! Might consider getting a lottery ticket lol
Explaining to my gf why bread uses TTS and she said to me “maybe they’re a celebrity. Like maybe they’re scarjo” and now I can’t stop thinking of Scarlet Johansson sitting down and logging into the half bread chaos TH-cam channel to make undertale and deltarune theories
"My name is Scarlett Johansson and this is why in deltarune chapter 5 Susie will die."
4:44 this video popped up in my subscription box right above a video titled “playing undertale until I find gaster day 82” and it added a layer of comedy to this entire section of the video
It's crazy how there is still more secrets that are waiting to be unfolded on the Xbox one.
i see you everywhere
You know you’re in deep when you see the title of this video and instantly know exactly why the question is worth asking.
It would’ve been funny if it just said something like “The mystery man is not Gaster”, or “he’s not you think he is” yes to deconfirm that theory in the most anticlimactic, comedic way possible.
Idk, it not being Gaster just leads to a whole nother host of questions
@@-Teague- Toby removed the Gaster tarot card from the official tarot card deck specifically because the design was based off Mystery Man. Either Mystery Man isn't Gaster the way we think he is or he's not Gaster at all
@@softsounds8453 did he say that was the reason?
@@softsounds8453 what if it’s because our perception of Gaster is wrong. Like, to put him on the card would show exactly what he looks like, and I personally wouldn’t want to straight up tell people what the MYSTERY MAN looks like if I were Toby, especially if it is noticeable different than what the community thinks.
@@softsounds8453 He said he didnt want other sources to reveal the game lore. He didnt say any of that.
3:25 So apparently they finally managed to datamine the Xbox version, and after "No face is connected" it says
_No mouth is connected._
_No heart is connected._
_No teeth are connected._
_No heart is connected._
(yes apparently the "No heart is connected." is actually there twice, which is... _interesting_ to say the least, it seems to be intentional since this also applies to the Japanese version)
youre doing the lords work
Shoutout to InvoxiPlayGames, danielah05, and Vultumast for dumping the game :)
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There's also an unused message in the controller code:
* (It's a picture of a dog juggling several balls.) * (You feel satisfaction that your hard work reverse engineering the encryption of the Xbox One has finally paid off.)
The very obscure things this channels finds is crazy and very interesting at the same time. Idk how a simple controller disconnected Easter egg can become a rabbit hole.
Imagine this happened instead.
*Finally gets the gray door*
*Disconnects controller next to the door* only for a normal message*
*Goes inside the Gaster room and disconnects controller for the same result*
*Talks to Gaster, waits for him to completely disappear, and disconnects controller*
"No Controller Connected."
"Never gonna give you up."
or "the truth is you got played, nerd"
With the second part being first put through three different ciphers before finally being converted to Wingdings, of course!
@@flare5282 that's literally a comic sans serif reference, oh my god
"The cake is a lie"
@@Rudxain "Hoopie the Hoop is underrated as fuck"
This is one of the questions that I would never think of.
You know what would be the worst? If people have been wondering over the Mystery Man room and it turned out one of the OTHER fun events had dialog.
the goner kid umbrella event lmao
We already checked all of those.
@@flare5282 i think something like "No Controller Connected. Was there ever a controller?" or something similar would be kinda cool, it would fit in with Goner Kid's dialogue
NO EYE
NO EAR
NO NOSE
NO HAND
NO BODY
NO MIND
NO SHAPE
NO SHAPE
this is the "lyrics" of Yoshimitsu's fight music in Tekken Tag Tournament. though it is taken, with mild modification, from a line in the buddhist heart sutra: "Śāriputra, therefore, in emptiness there is no form, no feeling, no perception, no formations, no consciousness, no eye, no ear, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind, no form, no sound, no smell, no taste, no texture, and no mental object."
so obviously the True Lab thing isn't quite a quote from either, but it seems… inspired to me. and the music pretty fun.
....hm. that actually reminds me vaguely of a part of Earthbound. It's been a while since I've played, so I'm not certain, but it sounds very familiar.
Toby is gradually perfecting the art of making hard to find easter eggs and he has the most videogame-secret-hungry fanbase to use as guinea pigs
The off-screen body part may be the "ココロ" (mind/heart).
I believe that the mind is the most important part of a person's being a person. I think it makes sense to lose it last.
(Translated from Japanese to English using DeepL translation. Sorry if any of the words are strange.)
Your sentence mostly makes sense though the part where you mentioned “the most important part of a person’s being a person” is a bit odd sounding.
The sentence would have sounded better I imagine if it was “I believe that the mind of a person is the most important part of them.” instead
That would line up with the earthbound Poo "i will take away your [X]" segment
Well, you were right! The next line is "No heart is connected."
Xbox finally got dumped, and the full message reads:
No head is connected.
No body is connected.
No arms are connected.
No legs are connected.
No skin is connected.
No ears are connected.
No face is connected
No mouth is connected.
No heart is connected.
No teeth are connected.
No heart is connected.
yes, heart is repeated twice. There's also an unused message in the code that says:
* (It's a picture of a dog juggling several balls.) * (You feel satisfaction that your hard work reverse engineering the encryption of the Xbox One has finally paid off.)
The disconnected body parts might be a reference to the meditation scene in Earthbound, where Poo is instructed to meditate on a peak and a spirit basically took away his body piece by piece. It ended with the spirit taking away his mind.
I was playing true lab when it came out on the Xbox and I went to grab a snack and I was freaking out when I saw the disconnected controller message
Okay, but what if you disconnect the controller during the Sound Test fun event while Gaster's Theme is playing?
"Bro this is good music why the heck did you interrupt it"
Minor correction at 5:46, Pirouette doesn't use RNG at all, it's actually coded to always do a certain thing on a certain number turn, you can see this on the wiki
I think that was the point of showing a clip of it during the discussion of there being no such thing as "true RNG".
Yep! Hence the note at the top that says "turn 6 always heals."
I suppose that was a bit obscure of me though, I was attempting to reference the Deltarune Anniversary Stream in which Toby says "all chaos is ordered." I probably could have made the reference more obvious if I'd used the clip said stream instead of random Jevil footage. Ah well, hindsight's 20/20.
At least I managed to stop myself last minute from using the "golf" game when illustrating the concept behind RNG manipulation.
Mettaton's encouragement of dancing isn't "Bits and Pieces" exclusive? i didn't know... which version added this?
Xbox.
Actually that's a funny story. It was *always* in the game, but it was bugged and never showed up. Except in the xbox version, due to a gamemaker update, something changed about the execution order and this text started showing up again.
@@jfb- ok. can you explain when it changes if it changes and overall how it works?
What's Mettaton's encouragement of dancing?
@@Quasarel this text at the bottom that tells you to dance with him
I love in-depth videos about incredibly specific UTDR things, haha. You always make my day whenever you upload!
i feel like the No Controller Connected message at the lab is a way to say something with our connection between the Player and the Character, since No Controller is connected, there's no control over the Character from the Player at the moment.
To me it seems like the true lab disconnected message kinda draws some parallel to the Survey Program where you make the vessel or whatever it was called?
I noticed that too. It started listing other things, but at first it was almost identical. Creepy.
Bless you for all the pain that went into getting there just to test it out 🤣
10:09 I never noticed the back of Goner Kid's head looks like a socket.
Werewire undertale confirmed!?!?!?
@@unreactivecontent nah its for those plugs in the mansion basement clearly
undercable
Could you IMAGINE if Toby just dropped a "Very interesting." as a disconnect message in that room? Move over, Steve, we've got a new Twitter breaker.
I feel like he could've just turned it into wing dings in that room. It's the same message, it doesn't spoil anything, but there's at least a cool detail in there.
IT MAKES GASTER TWERK OH MY GOD
...no it doesn't
@@TheMarshmallowMushroom it's a joke
It doesn't, but for a brief moment, this bought to mind the image of Gaster twerking. Thus, you win, I suppose :D
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in the recent update toby actually changed it to the gaster rap
Toby looks at this and laughs...
Knowing Toby, the disconnection message in the True Lab is definitely a callback to that "Moo" training in Earthbound with similarly eerie dialogue. Poor Poo.
I don't have friends that know much about deltarune/ut but I do like to talk about it to them every now and then (i especially enjoy telling them out of context things about it)
And this is the type of video that makes me think that if I ever tried to explain this to them (like how you can tell rng by the wiggles of the letters) they would think I'm absolutely insane.
(That being said I really enjoy this type of content, it's just a good fun time, keep up the good work)
That true lab text is fascinating, enough that I actually want to figure it out (Even though I don't speak a word of Japanese)
Hey I know this is completely off-topic regarding the topic of the video but I've wanted to tell you something regarding Elemental Pairs.
I think, and this is really only vaguely supported by the game, that Fire and Light element pairs together. That is to say, Fire produces Lights so it would sort of make sense.
Following the logic the opposite would also be true. Water would pair up with Dark, because Water diffuses Light. The ocean is very Dark, with no Light in there, so that logic makes sense to me.
I'm bringing this up because in the game Dark can be somewhat associated with Water/Ocean.
From Kris hearing an Ocean sound when first going into a Dark World, the Song from the Ocean that Onionsan has heard but does not remember and Riverperson - someone who works around Water - also knowing said song, and Riverperson being a somewhat 'dark' figure that knows a lot about strange things like for example Gaster. Jevil also says "Hells's roars bubbles from the depths" the usage of the word bubble could be to infer that Dark behaves liquid-like in some capacity.
This is just some food for thought that I thought it would be nice to let you know.
Moving your comment to the top so Chaos sees it.
Light's pair is already known. According to Spamton, Light is paired with Thunder
@@FroststormFrenzy
However that line is referring to the elements the sky mantle protects against, holy/electric, to my knowledge light isn't even an element.
@@pineappleudh6561 Noelle and Ralsei's Healing Prayer reads as a "Heavenly Light" and while there is no enemy that uses the Light element yet, I think It'd even weird if Light wasn't an actual element in the game all things considered.
@@synthwaverider
I suppose, still feel like the fact spamton equated holy to light implies we aren't going to also get a light element.
Damn, sorry about the results...but still, what a great video :D
All data is good data, even null data.
Imagine if there WAS a secret message, but it just had a low chance of appearing. Like it replaces the "No Controlli is Conoli" message. And it might just be as simple as
Controller disconected from the universe
please reconnect to the universe.
"pleace"
the true lab's "no (body part) connected" reminds me of vessel building's "are we connected" but this may be coincidence.
I kinda wish that in the mystery room the disconnect message was in wingdings, and then when translated just said the normal "No controller is connected" tbh
Sans is a lightener, he has a dark yet darker treadmill world
10:00 Wait WHAT DID YOU SAY?!?!??
He said "aisak_vik"
@@lunarpillars I know
@@kaycee7738 then why'd you ask
@@lunarpillars the name was said in such a way that to the listener it sounded like "i suck d___"
You deserve a huge applause. I've been watching your videos for a while now, and this here is just absolutely insane. The fact that you really didn't give up on trying to figure out a solution for something so crazy... Is completely impressive. Bravo, I'm definitely subscribing, can't wait to watch your future content :)
No controller is connected
Mystery Man: Look like we both are disconnected from this world.
That massage would be very very interesting Easter egg.
Hey HalfBread, I’m not sure if need or want more video ideas, but here are some things I think it would be interesting to see:
-An analysis on how Kris’s friend group seems to correspond to the five stages of grief (Berdly = Denial, Susie = Anger, Kris = Bargaining, Noelle = Depression, and Ralsei = Acceptance) and speculation on what it could mean for these characters’ in future chapters and in their backstories if this correlation is intentional.
-Various analyses on Undertale and Deltarune’s narrators on things like: evidence for and against Chara being the narrator, how Chara could have become the narrator (personally I think it is due to Chara’s soul being destroyed from being in Asriel when he died, which normally can’t happen to human soul because they persist after death, but I don’t have any evidence for that), and on patterns in the Deltarune narration and who the narrator or narrators could be.
-An analysis on who Suzy could be. (Assuming Suzy isn’t just a reference to Susie, but refers to a different character we meet in Chapter 1)
ive seen av good analysis on who the deltarune narrator is by andrew cunningham (iirc his conclusion was that in deltarune the narrator is not meant to be an in game character like chara was for undertale. itsjust a narrator)
which one
This is actual insanity, my friend, and I love it. Keep going, funky little guy
The disconnection message in the True Lab makes me think of the vessel creation sequence in Chapter 1 of Deltarune. Where, in Deltarune, we were prompted to choose different body parts from a selection of them, this speaks of a possible reversion of that theme, where the disconnection of the Player is an inverse to the "connection" we were building in that sequence.
That, and the vessel in particular being shown to have no face (further enforced by Kris and Susie's interactions with the Angel doll in Rudy's hospital room), makes the idea of the reference even more chilling. It's like it's enforcing how terrible and inhuman that vessel is by pointing out how it has no ears or face or mouth. Like how it's existence is fully dependent on the Player for a sense of true identity, and without any connection, it's nothing but a hollow, blank slate.
To tie it back to Undertale, since Chara is our narrator, and assuming this is Chara speaking during this instance, they feel a similar sense of dissociation during this sequence, since they too are tied inexorably to the Player's direction and sense of identity, as shown by how their behavior shifts and changes depending on our actions. This only enforces the underlying narrative ties between Undertale and Deltarune for me.
9:17
Let's be honest. When you see how the fandom is crazy enought to dig into game and its most absurd details endlessly, Toby COULD allow himself to put crazy easter eggs at terribles places and timong that would be hell to get. And he could trust us to find it one day because we WILL think about it.
I've been trying every idea I can think of for that missing Japanese word and I've got nothing better than Koyubi to show for it. Eyes, hair, tongue, shoulder, fingernail, teeth, forehead, nose, brain. Nothing lends itself to a three-character word using the allowed letters.
.....or maybe not. I just found one as I was typing this.
Heart -> Kokoro -> ココロ
After that much process of elimination, and between Pinky Finger and Heart? I think I may have just found our answer. Also important to note: In Japanese, Heart and Mind are often interchangable, and Kokoro can mean any of heart/mind/spirit easily. And I can honestly see any of those three being the missing word here. But considering the existing pattern, I believe Heart to be the most likely of the three.
Considering souls are represented as hearts in Undertale, that makes sense.
This is the only really valid one that avoids the clipping I’ve seen so far and it would make sense.
I think it'd probably use shinzou for heart here instead of kokoro, but that's the first thing I thought of, too. Still seems possible.
I almost want to propose the idea of the last one being “ジブン”.
“Self not detected”.
No awareness.
How is it that still, after all these years I find out about stuff about this game I haven't known about yet. The controller easter egg completely went over my head for years. I still wonder if Toby left more weird stuff in the console versions of the game since he'd know we can't dig through those easily.
Not sure if this is any help, but aside from “skin,” it seems to be saying the body parts in the same order you’d say them in hangman. That is to say, hang *man* …
There is a man in the tree.
That got dark fast
@@TheRealSuperKirby Oooo, I didn't even think of that!
Fascinating
@@TheRealSuperKirby for someone who has "kirby" in their name you really don't think as jolly as i'd imagine you to.
also, what the FUCK
@@generallyunimportant Nah brah Kirby stories are some of the most depressing things you can find in rated E media.
There should be one for Sans' fight, where it asks something along the lines of "Running..? I guess you could try." or "Running..?" or "Trying to run are you?" or "You can't run after what you did."
There there should be one for when you go back to see Asriel after his fight.
Then there should be one just after when Asriel transforms into his taller form and Hope and Dreams starts playing, where it says "Aww! But it was just getting good!" or "And it was just getting good!" or "Really? Now?! It was just getting to the good part!"
Then another while talking to Chara that probably says "=)".
Then if you try to unplug it while Chara's attacking you or right after, then the death message that appears after (if there is one) will say "Nice try, but you can't escape this."
Then if you do it after Chara goes to destroy a new world and waiting for more text it'll s say "You'd lose control just to see something, anything, huh?"
Then if you do it after striking sans for the last time and right before it presses it on it's own, it should say "Return to your false control."
after it says nice try you can't escape this it should go back to gameplay even if your controller isn't connected
I can't wait for more secret hunting. The more mystery man discovery attempts the better >:3
9:03
i wish if it was "no controller exist" or something like that
3:16 why did I read that in GladOs's voice
Hello, fellow semi-Japanese speaker here! I may have spent too much time overthinking the last question about the cut off True Lab text LOL but anyways the only thing I could come up with that's actually plausible is possibly kokoro (ココロ) which translates to heart and would probably make the most sense, although kokoro usually refers to heart in the metaphorical sense and not the literal sense (which would be shinzou, or シンゾウ). I did consider tamashii and/or soul in katakana since that's what the Japanese translation of the game refers to the soul as I think, but tamashii (タマシイ) is four characters and soul (ソウル) has the ウ that would stick out so it's probably not those two.
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I can't believe that this person is my favorite Undertale/deltarune TH-camr but they are lol
4:32
Playing the game a thousand times would still only land you with a ~63% chance of getting the door.
2000 times is an ~86% chance.
3000 times is a ~95% chance.
4603 times is the lowest amount of attempts to get a better than 99% chance.
6905 attempts is when you reverse the odds (meaning if you attempt this many times, the odds of getting the door are the same as NOT getting the door in a single attempt).
although it would’ve been cool if the disconnection message had wing dings in it, i can see why a custom message wasn’t added honestly
What I find most interesting about the console-exclusive stuff is that it seems to be canon-the alarm clock dialogue confirms that Mad Mew Mew is, well, herself, and that the Holiday family existed in the Undertale universe.
In other words, if the Waterfall door had any new dialogue, the Undertale theorist group would upend itself.
Toby: that true lab easter egg was darker than the darkest paint.
Off topic, but I find it weird that people disregard great content creators for using text to speech, like it's inherently a bad thing. Here in latin america if you use TTS/Loquendo you become based and recieve respect instantly.
BOUNDARY BREAK!? What do you guys think!? HalfBreadChaos, there's a video on Shesez's channel about him spreading the view of the screen out. Maybe if you find a way to manipulate it on Xbox, then you can see the whole message?
Im gonna start making predictions as to what the Katakana could be. (Wild predictions)
こきゅ - Breathing
てくび - Wrist
せなか - Back
おしり ...
まぶた - Eyelids
こぶし - Fist
おなか - Stomach
かかと - Heels
ちょう - Intestines
I'm not the greatest Japanese speaker but if I think of more I'll edit this comment. :)
oo interesting, interesting possible suggestions
from what i know, it cant be any of those sadly.
I think it woulda’v been cool if it just played static until you reconnect the controller.
ココロ（mind）がせつぞくされていません。
テアシ（hands and feet）がせつぞくされていません。
アンヨ（feet, old way of saying in Japanese ）がせつぞくされていません。
I'm Japanese, but All I came up with which match the rules are them.
テクビ（hands）（in this case,”ク” is visible.）
コエ（voice）（the numbers don't match.）
These are the other things I thought.
However, I think "ココロ" is correct.
I am sorry that my English is not good.
Just started watching the video and got to the Nintendo switch clam girl part. Which actually reminded me of a theory I have.
What if gaster is from deltarune? And not from Undertale at all. And all of the goners and gaster followers we see in Undertale are actually their deltarune counterparts. What if gaster’s creation is deltarune? And he, and some of the monsters in the town of deltarune, “fall into his creation”? All of the goners and gaster followers have a deltarune counterpart. The goner kid could be a childlike piece of monster kid, or Toby hadn’t decided to age up MK at that time in development for deltarune and assumed he would keep MK looking the same in both games. And clam girl switching into a goner form could be because that piece of her from deltarune found her Undertale counterpart and attached herself to it, waiting for the right time to show herself and warn the player. Perhaps the roaring is the true incident that shatters gaster. Perhaps we’re looking at this all wrong.
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7:03 ....oh... So thats what makes math useful
I think the final line of Japanese text when parts are disconnected is a 2 character word. The " in ぞ (zo) It doesn't align with all the other lines and every line is centered. I think it's のう, ノウ
or nou, or in English: brain
No, the dots for せつぞくされていません of the final line align perfectly with the topmost line, the one with アタマ (I used Photoshop on a screenshot to check)
@@paulinet68 oops, I missed comparing the first line, you're right
3:24 sounds like something that would fit in Shesez's boundary break
Hey man i just want you to know that your content is super cool I always get happier when i get a notification that u uploaded, keep up the grind pal
The easter eggs toby puts in the game rereleases are so cool
Fun fact: I got the mystery man door and hallway on my first playthrough and was very confused. I wish it would happen again but I guess dream luck only happens once.
I feel like if I were Tobyand I DID put an easter egg there, it’d have to be Entry 17. It’s not technically a new easter egg thus the risk of alienating fans goes away, AND the fans get confirmation that the Mysteryman is Gaster
I was actually wondering that
I don’t know what it is about this channel but it’s just so… wholesome I guess? It just feels nice to watch.
I'm no expert and it's probably not...but could it be a word for "soul"?
3:59 I could just imagine the game saying "He doesn't exist, and now your controller connection doesn't either."
Fun fact, the fun rating for gaster is 66.6
I kind of wonder if this is an Earthbound reference? During the Mu training in Dalaam, the spirit of Poo's ancestors comes to him in a meditative trance and, one by one, takes away his legs, his arms, his ears, his eyes, and his mind - and by extension, his feelings. Looking at the Japanese version, it appears the word used here is こころ - or, in katakana, ココロ, which has already been speculated elsewhere.
2:52
No controller is connected
HER ARMS WERE CUT OFF HER LEGS WERE CUT OFF-
Never thought I would see that reference lol
im no expert on japanese, but maybe "No eye is connected"? Edit: forgot to clarify that I was talking about the Japanese text right below "No mouth detected" Second edit: just read some of the comments, the word "Eye" or "Eyes" were ruled out, sorry!
If you can get the game files of the XBox version of Undertale on a PC, there *should* be no need to decompile it in order to be able to read text strings in the game's code files. If you open a binary file in a hex editor, you could search for the beginning of the text we are looking for (this would have to be attempted in several encodings though, bc who knows, it could be ASCII, UTF-8 or even UTF-16)
anyways great video as always!
10:00 bro I can’t be the only one who miss heard that
It's not "little finger" because ゆ pokes over the top. ゅ isn't the same, it comes after certain characters to change the sound (e.g. し/shi + ゅ/little yu = "shu") and doesn't stand on its own. In katakana, it works, but I still think "little finger" is unlikely lol.
The issue with this is that ALL the body parts are spelled in katakana regardless of whether it's normally spelled with hiragana or not--except for body, "どうたい". This means it's likely a normally-hiragana word spelled in katakana, or a katakana word.
Some possibilities are:
テアシ (teashi; hands and feet)
ファー (faa; fur)
ココロ (kokoro; mind/heart/spirit)
ココロ, I think, is the best option we have!
ショウ, シソウ and ココチ don't fit, because ウ for the first two and チ for the last are out
@@paulinet68 I am so ADHD I forgot which characters were allowed lol
Honestly would've thought it would've been "no controller connected" in wing dings
11:17 Eyes
U r the best Undertale/ Deltarune theorist on all of TH-cam! Thanks for the awesome videos, I appreciate u :)
this is cool but could you make a video related to Homestuck someday lmao (besides echidna)