RIP FLASH BREACH. As of today this was nerfed pre-league by GGG due to the attention it was given via Reddit and TH-cam I assume. It’s still a good node because of the "blood" produced for the Scourge mechanic and this is probably still one of the best choices for currency early but it’s not towering over every region anymore.
if im understanding correctly, expedition scarabs and delirium orbs are not obtainable outside of perandus mechanics being replaced by them. someone please correct me if im wrong
@@Bamtko that makes no sense whatsoever. obviously you gonna drop the new scarabs/deli orbs where you would normally drop any other scarab/deli orb. (delirium encounters for example)
It's also going to depend a lot on the Scourage mechanic. It's possible that it's much more rewarding in red maps and you want to do those, or maybe it's like Ultimatum which was basically the same between whites and reds.
The value of flash breach is very good, I love Rog idea because you can get random items that have super high life or es with other stats and then scourge them if you hit a ggg mod combo its basically free. Pogbooks are very powerful if you understand how to milk rewards, crafted multiple t1 es items using rog!
1. Expedition is replacing perandus. Which means we have an expedition scarab. 2. Expedition scales with map tier. U get more reroll currency and artifacts and higher value logbooks. 3. White maps are ok, and it is true that breach is one of the mechanics that doesn't scale with map tier BUT having secrets of stone + 4 watchstones means u have 0.5% change for splinters to drop as breachstones which is a 50% more multiplier on your splinters. Apart from dropping t14+ maps. I would argue that if u have the build to run red maps fast and not brick encounters, you will be getting more currency per hr and you definitely should do so. Otherwise great vid :) Lra is busted
great information and my bad on the expedition scarab. I wanted to hold back on the watchstone optimization stuff to keep this week 1 strat as relatable as possible for casuals and veterans alike but that certainly will be a solid high investment method.
I had no idea you got the full value of Breach from lower tier maps. I always had trouble pushing to reds for stuff like this quickly. Does this apply to most of the League mechanics as well? Thanks for the information and the really well made video. It's given me even more to look forward to this league.
You will still need to push to red as fast as possible for the maven passives you don't need to sustain them tho. It depends on the mechanic. Some have items that need high ilvl like heist contracts abyss for stygians ect. For harvest it's only important that you can use the crafts on every item. Not too sure how each of them scale with quantity tho.
@@Shodokan123 yeah true I think you can even go with 4 passive points, but at this point you might wanna invest into the passive points if you are planning on speed farming hundreds of maps.
5:53 haven't gone into red maps in over a year mainly because of this. Going into red maps and beyond was just a pointless grind (for me) but in 3.16 with so much more chase in the game now it might be worth it.
For me, new player, I might go with Full Expedition, or Heist/Invasion as I wanted to try Invasion, Breaches I might already do them in Glennach from Temples.
Spicy, do you still have the reddit link about the guy that farmed a mirror with breach splinter farming ? Would love to read his progress. Ty for the vid!
not what you asked: theres a grimro interview with a guy you farmed in team. last league, should be on his channel. The way he explains what/why he did is really good, you can learn from it. Def a diff strat than this white-breach but interesting
for low tier maps chaos slinger will be great but I'd keep an eye out for builds like toxic rain, burning arrow, and armadgeddon brand, etc if you want to push higher quickly.
Thanks for the explenation, will try this one in the upcoming league....I have about 3000 hours in the game, always rushed red maps, never did such farming techniques in white maps and always asked myself how other can make that much currency and I sit here with 5-8 EX after 2 weeks farming only red maps. ^^ I guess with the new Atlas we want to finish the 4 Watchstones for Lira first, so we can sustain our map pool while finishing all the other 12 watchstones (Means keep Lira empty the whole time to drop white maps only for this region). ;)
@@powrsh1 to kill the bosses u have to stick at least to one build for longer and equip him with below avarage gear, othervise its a very hard task. Now with the new Uber Content in 3.16 this will be more important than ever. ;) I am somone who usually chose a good starter that can scale well into endgame and stick to it the whole league. ^^ Sometimes make a 2nd or 3rd, depends the purposes and how much I liike the league.
I’m relative new to PoE, so I only have the faintest idea of what you’re talking about, but I definitely appreciate the idea of making white maps profitable. Map strat is to fill out this zone completely for these nodes, then remove all watchstones so that this is he only region white maps drop, correct? And in addition to currency farm you sell off scarabs? Thanks!
Yeah you need to have the maven passives and then return to white maps because they are cheaper and easier to sustain. You won't be selling scarabs but using them if they aren't too expensive and expedition scarabs maybe. I think expedition scales with maps tier tho (bc of the logbooks) so maybe you would want to use red maps if you want to go hard on expedition.
@@whatever-ej8dz yes. it's the opp from usual map-farming strat, usually you keep the map you want red and lower all the others. It's genius really, it also removes the feeling of 'missing out' if you dont super-juice your red
for high investment you'd want to use 4 breach or expedition watchstones and do t14+ with expedition and breach scarabs. youd probably want to also remove watchstones in other regions to help sustain
For a more optimized higher investment version of this early method yes. I wanted to keep this relatable for more casual players so that’s why I recommended white maps with 0 watchstones.
at the moment i don't feel comfortable recommending it still after the nerfs. it's extremely tanky now though so i hope the passive tree update changes my mind
Holy ..i chaos recipe pays for the breach map o.o but if we want maximum rewards shouldn’t we push red maps for the ten boss encounters? Unless white maps have ten available ? Do you have link of solo player who used strat for mirror?
So you're basically saying I need to finish my atlas far enough in week 1 to use this strategy fully? Because I won't get Maven invitations on lower tier maps
you only need to care about lira arthain and that's literally it besides acquiring your first 6 watchstones. (which you can get unique ones through div cards or through trading with others as well)
Depends on the prices of the waychstones and the prices of chayulas compared to the 4 other ones. Also you probably will have to buy red maps (with 4 stones) and I think you would want to invest into at least breach and expedition scarabs and maybe elder/shaper scarabs for bases. Nemesis could also work. I think the 4 other breachstones will be in higher demand than usual tho because of the flawless breachstones and white maps is more week 1 friendly.
Nah chayula watch stones expensive af. Many won't buy or craft chayula watch stones and the modifiers on the stones dont guarantee chayula like uul or other ones. So unless you super juice it with gilded/winged or awakened sextants. Chayula will be in a normal to rare frequency. So yes a little more supply but the demand will also be there especially with flawless and exp rotos
7:12 my MIND BLOWN we don’t need red maps for some mechanics for full profit!?!? Ive been taught rush reds (i mean more profitable on console for that) I didn’t know .. i though breaches was a red map thing are essences a red map thing?
But I would have already made a couple maps so that I drop more maps and already have a couple watchstones to block surrounding maps and only drop the maps that I currently want to drop in a certain area. Also Mavens invitations are advantageous, so that only the mechanics that Sushi has explained, works.
In case you haven't found out yet, no, essences aren't a red map thing. Screaming essence appears from map level 68, which is t1 map. Though if you can rush red in the first few days AND can sustain map drop (atlas completion bonus), then you should rush red. Red maps worth 15-2x chaos each early league. Obviously this requires a bit of no life-ing though.
one thing to note about low lvl breach vs high is i believe u do get MUCH less chayula spawns in low lvl zones compared to reds. oh and someone posted a full atlas already. cant wait for leaguestart tho! Finally looks like GGG got what players want
I'm pretty sure this has never been proven but I'd be interested in seeing data if there is any. According to my sources chayula is just as likely in a tier 1 map.
Do you even necessarily want Chayula breaches in 3.16 though?, for people trying to farm the uber breach amulet Uul-Netol breaches would likely be better.
@@Nimroc no, u missed when they said that item can come from any of the flawless stones not just uul They didn't put unique flawless loot for each breachlord yet
I don't really agree with the fact that you would need to spend a huge amount of currency and time to maintain a t14+ map pool. As long as you have the atlas set up right(favorite slots and all) it's really really easy to sustain. Before this league it was a real struggle to get to that point, but with the new atlas changes in mind it should be a breeze.
I think the problem with that is that having all the maps to get the favorite slots will take some time for most ppl, and since this video was mostly aimed at more casual players it could be "dangerous" to say u could sustain t14+ at the start of the league
I dont think the video is meant as the end-all of strat but more of a : do this the first 4 days! It's easy to do, low danger and quick. you get currency then you can upgrade and do the usual juiced-up map if you want without problem.
"red maps are a waste" Not if you plan on actually utilizing Expedition. That DOES rely on map level because you very badly wanted the highest ilvl logbooks possible.
I agree but in a week one scenario I believe high ilvl logbooks would hold significantly less trade value compared to later on unless your build is capable of efficiently running them at such an early point. People are definitely going to be using expedition scarabs and pushing the highest tier possible for that strategy.
I play on console sushi. Please let out content ;-; what ever you use to make a mirror first is what i’m going to try in console. Since our prices are higher essences are 5cper for shrieking and 10c for deafening each but i’m looking for any white maps as I want to gain currency first two days then follow khans lab running*
well if prices are high then that means income is also high. if essences are fucking 5 -10 c per, just spam essences. guaranteed easy money till can do a more advanced strat for example
big fan but please dont pull another - found this amazing way to make currency and go dark to just pop up a few days later and then show us after you destroyed it lol
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RIP FLASH BREACH. As of today this was nerfed pre-league by GGG due to the attention it was given via Reddit and TH-cam I assume. It’s still a good node because of the "blood" produced for the Scourge mechanic and this is probably still one of the best choices for currency early but it’s not towering over every region anymore.
if im understanding correctly, expedition scarabs and delirium orbs are not obtainable outside of perandus mechanics being replaced by them. someone please correct me if im wrong
@@Bamtko that makes no sense whatsoever. obviously you gonna drop the new scarabs/deli orbs where you would normally drop any other scarab/deli orb. (delirium encounters for example)
@@Bamtko Expedition Delirium Orbs (and Metamorph organs) are not obtainable outside of legacy items. Scarabs will actually exist in-league. Source: patch notes.
@@bearY0 No, expedition deli orbs were just implemented to replace perandus deli orbs in standard, they're drop disabled otherwise
@@trevorc4413 good to know thanks for looking it up
Really interesting to see the Expedition one talked about already, keep up the content mate!
"Dude had to replace his chair - he played so much" 😂
It's also going to depend a lot on the Scourage mechanic. It's possible that it's much more rewarding in red maps and you want to do those, or maybe it's like Ultimatum which was basically the same between whites and reds.
The value of flash breach is very good, I love Rog idea because you can get random items that have super high life or es with other stats and then scourge them if you hit a ggg mod combo its basically free. Pogbooks are very powerful if you understand how to milk rewards, crafted multiple t1 es items using rog!
now the question is which league starter will be the best for this. Thanks for the informative video sushi !
Probably with a linked combo mate. I'm thinking of doing a freezing support to hold hordes of scourge.
do you upgrade the breachstones before selling or no point?
Welcome back! I'm excited for uber Legion, Breach and Blight !
Perandus scarab is now expedition scarab (patch notes). Yes, expedition has scarab in this league.
No harvest scarab though :(
@@Century_Chandra Still waiting for a heist scarab so there's some freaking way to target farm blueprints.
10:48 it's actually 1 in 6 which makes expedition even better
it should be 1:1 because we will have scarabs for expedition
Breach in 3.14 was also 2c for an additional breach.
Yo sushi,
Could you paste the atlas passives spreadsheet into the description plz?
its on the reddit, you should be able to find easily
1. Expedition is replacing perandus. Which means we have an expedition scarab.
2. Expedition scales with map tier. U get more reroll currency and artifacts and higher value logbooks.
3. White maps are ok, and it is true that breach is one of the mechanics that doesn't scale with map tier BUT having secrets of stone + 4 watchstones means u have 0.5% change for splinters to drop as breachstones which is a 50% more multiplier on your splinters. Apart from dropping t14+ maps. I would argue that if u have the build to run red maps fast and not brick encounters, you will be getting more currency per hr and you definitely should do so.
Otherwise great vid :) Lra is busted
great information and my bad on the expedition scarab. I wanted to hold back on the watchstone optimization stuff to keep this week 1 strat as relatable as possible for casuals and veterans alike but that certainly will be a solid high investment method.
I had no idea you got the full value of Breach from lower tier maps. I always had trouble pushing to reds for stuff like this quickly. Does this apply to most of the League mechanics as well?
Thanks for the information and the really well made video. It's given me even more to look forward to this league.
You will still need to push to red as fast as possible for the maven passives you don't need to sustain them tho.
It depends on the mechanic. Some have items that need high ilvl like heist contracts abyss for stygians ect. For harvest it's only important that you can use the crafts on every item. Not too sure how each of them scale with quantity tho.
@@whatever-ej8dz For single strat focused farm you only need to be at maximum t10 maps to get 6 maven passives.
@@Shodokan123 yeah true I think you can even go with 4 passive points, but at this point you might wanna invest into the passive points if you are planning on speed farming hundreds of maps.
@@whatever-ej8dz That'll be discussed in another video sushi is releasing at some point
God damn I wanna try breach so bad but I hate placing these explosives can heist stuff even be compared to 2 nodes of expedition there?
Yep rare breach monsters have a chance to drop their uniques it's an awesome strategy.
5:53 haven't gone into red maps in over a year mainly because of this. Going into red maps and beyond was just a pointless grind (for me) but in 3.16 with so much more chase in the game now it might be worth it.
thanks for the vid. How do you think, is it worth starting as ballista deadeye or its a very bad idea?
It could work maybe but I'd wait for youtube guides to come out
Awesome vid, Sushi!
For me, new player, I might go with Full Expedition, or Heist/Invasion as I wanted to try Invasion, Breaches I might already do them in Glennach from Temples.
Hey will you make vortex ocultist update for 3.16?
Also breach pauses while in the scourge per grimro who asked the devs
Spicy, do you still have the reddit link about the guy that farmed a mirror with breach splinter farming ? Would love to read his progress. Ty for the vid!
not what you asked: theres a grimro interview with a guy you farmed in team. last league, should be on his channel. The way he explains what/why he did is really good, you can learn from it. Def a diff strat than this white-breach but interesting
@@TheTarkovish ty! Will search the video
Breach being 2c will definitely drop the price early on but if you can get to maps super early you're gonna make BANK first few days.
Do you run all the breachstones you get or do you sell them? Also what are good builds to clear breaches that can also kill breach bosses? :o
Hey Spicy any suggestions on league start builds that would be best if your focusing on this strat?
for low tier maps chaos slinger will be great but I'd keep an eye out for builds like toxic rain, burning arrow, and armadgeddon brand, etc if you want to push higher quickly.
Thanks for the explenation, will try this one in the upcoming league....I have about 3000 hours in the game, always rushed red maps, never did such farming techniques in white maps and always asked myself how other can make that much currency and I sit here with 5-8 EX after 2 weeks farming only red maps. ^^
I guess with the new Atlas we want to finish the 4 Watchstones for Lira first, so we can sustain our map pool while finishing all the other 12 watchstones (Means keep Lira empty the whole time to drop white maps only for this region). ;)
you can do that, or, you can buy the watch stones for the other region (platinum, chronium and whatevernium), you dont really need to run them.
@@powrsh1 to kill the bosses u have to stick at least to one build for longer and equip him with below avarage gear, othervise its a very hard task.
Now with the new Uber Content in 3.16 this will be more important than ever. ;)
I am somone who usually chose a good starter that can scale well into endgame and stick to it the whole league. ^^
Sometimes make a 2nd or 3rd, depends the purposes and how much I liike the league.
@@TheTarkovish OK thanks, good to know.
@@powrsh1 can't wait to see the new impact of the defense buffs.
Esp. the requirements of Evasion and Armor. ;)
I’m relative new to PoE, so I only have the faintest idea of what you’re talking about, but I definitely appreciate the idea of making white maps profitable.
Map strat is to fill out this zone completely for these nodes, then remove all watchstones so that this is he only region white maps drop, correct? And in addition to currency farm you sell off scarabs? Thanks!
Yeah you need to have the maven passives and then return to white maps because they are cheaper and easier to sustain. You won't be selling scarabs but using them if they aren't too expensive and expedition scarabs maybe. I think expedition scales with maps tier tho (bc of the logbooks) so maybe you would want to use red maps if you want to go hard on expedition.
@@whatever-ej8dz yes. it's the opp from usual map-farming strat, usually you keep the map you want red and lower all the others. It's genius really, it also removes the feeling of 'missing out' if you dont super-juice your red
Flash Breach and Within their grasp in ONE PLACE???? And Breach zana is 2 chaos LMAOOO
May you please provide the a link to the spreedsheet that you use in the video? Also, if possible, the link to the Google spreadsheet as well?
image of it is in the description that you can download. I found it through a discord message so I'm not sure on the source
@@SpicysushiPoE thank you kindly
I will try your guide but what about we use hight yellows so the books are better I can't think any other thing to improve
for high investment you'd want to use 4 breach or expedition watchstones and do t14+ with expedition and breach scarabs. youd probably want to also remove watchstones in other regions to help sustain
Still worthwhile? Flash breach seems to be nerfed to not include 10 rare monsters anymore
still very solid since its probably one of the best ways to generate blood for scourge
You didnt really talk about watchstones. Should we get increased chance for uul-netol?
For a more optimized higher investment version of this early method yes. I wanted to keep this relatable for more casual players so that’s why I recommended white maps with 0 watchstones.
Hey Spicysushi, do you think your cold snap build you usually run will be viable next league with change to EE and EO?
at the moment i don't feel comfortable recommending it still after the nerfs. it's extremely tanky now though so i hope the passive tree update changes my mind
Holy ..i chaos recipe pays for the breach map o.o but if we want maximum rewards shouldn’t we push red maps for the ten boss encounters? Unless white maps have ten available ? Do you have link of solo player who used strat for mirror?
will you do heist day 1 ? or just go straight to the maps
I'll be heisting day one yes
So am I the only one that noticed that both harbringer and nem is gone from the map device? :P
Any ideas on what build you'll be starting?
no clue LOL
Lira Arthain was also my plan. It's the poggest of pog zones.
Lmao sorry for the flash bang. Ngl my corneas melted
So you're basically saying I need to finish my atlas far enough in week 1 to use this strategy fully? Because I won't get Maven invitations on lower tier maps
you only need to care about lira arthain and that's literally it besides acquiring your first 6 watchstones. (which you can get unique ones through div cards or through trading with others as well)
Will this be better than early heist abuse?
would it be worth to put in 1 chayula watchstone? or 4 chayulas and remove watchstones of other regions for sustain?
Depends on the prices of the waychstones and the prices of chayulas compared to the 4 other ones. Also you probably will have to buy red maps (with 4 stones) and I think you would want to invest into at least breach and expedition scarabs and maybe elder/shaper scarabs for bases. Nemesis could also work. I think the 4 other breachstones will be in higher demand than usual tho because of the flawless breachstones and white maps is more week 1 friendly.
Vaal frost nova is fantastic in cleaning out juiced breeches ^_^
Dont you need to progress the region to red maps for the maven skill points?
It's super highlighted in the video... Complete reds until you reach the encounters and then go back to the whites... -q
@@kurojrock Thanks man i did not pay aton of attention since im sleepy. Ty soo much
Everyone is going to do this sadg. I can’t see a chalula stone retaining its 1 ex value with such a free method to farm them breeches
Nah chayula watch stones expensive af. Many won't buy or craft chayula watch stones and the modifiers on the stones dont guarantee chayula like uul or other ones. So unless you super juice it with gilded/winged or awakened sextants. Chayula will be in a normal to rare frequency.
So yes a little more supply but the demand will also be there especially with flawless and exp rotos
7:12 my MIND BLOWN we don’t need red maps for some mechanics for full profit!?!? Ive been taught rush reds (i mean more profitable on console for that) I didn’t know .. i though breaches was a red map thing are essences a red map thing?
But I would have already made a couple maps so that I drop more maps and already have a couple watchstones to block surrounding maps and only drop the maps that I currently want to drop in a certain area.
Also Mavens invitations are advantageous, so that only the mechanics that Sushi has explained, works.
In case you haven't found out yet, no, essences aren't a red map thing. Screaming essence appears from map level 68, which is t1 map.
Though if you can rush red in the first few days AND can sustain map drop (atlas completion bonus), then you should rush red. Red maps worth 15-2x chaos each early league. Obviously this requires a bit of no life-ing though.
@@viethoangle9252 Or holiday during this week :D I mean red maps are easy to get. maybe 6-7 hours after reaching t1 maps.^^
Delirium destroy? I believe it have now the best nodes in the game, is stronger than before IMO.
I thought GGG said that you cant trade Logbooks anymore?
Artifacts you can't
Hell yeah brother
one thing to note about low lvl breach vs high is i believe u do get MUCH less chayula spawns in low lvl zones compared to reds. oh and someone posted a full atlas already. cant wait for leaguestart tho! Finally looks like GGG got what players want
I'm pretty sure this has never been proven but I'd be interested in seeing data if there is any. According to my sources chayula is just as likely in a tier 1 map.
@@davidpowell3469 Chayula are just as rare in high tier maps, they just need an area lvl of 68 to spawn in the first place.
@@SpicysushiPoE i couldve sworn someone did a test of white breachlord spawns vs red but maybe not. if i can find it, ill link.
Do you even necessarily want Chayula breaches in 3.16 though?, for people trying to farm the uber breach amulet Uul-Netol breaches would likely be better.
@@Nimroc no, u missed when they said that item can come from any of the flawless stones not just uul
They didn't put unique flawless loot for each breachlord yet
can u link reddit post about hh+2 mir ?
GGG do know about the economy of trade league... they just nerf Delirum because it was too strong. Expecially with upcoming 30 waves.
I don't really agree with the fact that you would need to spend a huge amount of currency and time to maintain a t14+ map pool. As long as you have the atlas set up right(favorite slots and all) it's really really easy to sustain. Before this league it was a real struggle to get to that point, but with the new atlas changes in mind it should be a breeze.
we will see. if we're in T14+ finishing up our Maven passives and we're easily sustaining T14+ then we will know
I think the problem with that is that having all the maps to get the favorite slots will take some time for most ppl, and since this video was mostly aimed at more casual players it could be "dangerous" to say u could sustain t14+ at the start of the league
I dont think the video is meant as the end-all of strat but more of a : do this the first 4 days! It's easy to do, low danger and quick. you get currency then you can upgrade and do the usual juiced-up map if you want without problem.
Is there a link to the spreadsheet?
imgur.com/a/KNJ5EKh
@@SpicysushiPoE we will have expedition scarabs in 3.16 they are replacing cadiro scarabs
@spicysushi PoE will this be profitable though if everyone is doing it I feel like everyone is gonna do this Sadge.
Relax, ggg already nerfed this.
Although I see your point... I disagree that it's difficult to sustain maps
I see where to stay longer at a begin xd
"red maps are a waste" Not if you plan on actually utilizing Expedition. That DOES rely on map level because you very badly wanted the highest ilvl logbooks possible.
I agree but in a week one scenario I believe high ilvl logbooks would hold significantly less trade value compared to later on unless your build is capable of efficiently running them at such an early point. People are definitely going to be using expedition scarabs and pushing the highest tier possible for that strategy.
low level logbooks is also a nice way to go simply because you can run them faster
also artifact quant is a huge diff in map tier iirc
I play on console sushi. Please let out content ;-; what ever you use to make a mirror first is what i’m going to try in console. Since our prices are higher essences are 5cper for shrieking and 10c for deafening each but i’m looking for any white maps as I want to gain currency first two days then follow khans lab running*
well if prices are high then that means income is also high. if essences are fucking 5 -10 c per, just spam essences. guaranteed easy money till can do a more advanced strat for example
nice console leaguestart :) sounds kinda chill xD
Why you leaking my strategy bro
Surrender on console 9-15 ex stays consistently over 10ex as league goes on WTF!?!? You can get that from breach encounters not just breach stones!?!?
big fan but please dont pull another - found this amazing way to make currency and go dark to just pop up a few days later and then show us after you destroyed it lol
AAAAANNNNDDD it's nerfed
thaks GGG this looked like it was going to be fun guess not now
Ls raider and c'mon rog gimme me bases to bake!
WoW
LOL top tier gamer saying you dont have to farm red tier maps to make "hundreds of currency a day".... OK bub.... Talk about disconnected...
I literally made 3 mirrors in 3 days at the start of expedition without leaving yellow maps. You can check out the channel if you’d like.
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I was going to farm this a lot, hopeing that video will not blow up :(
Delet dis.