Sig P365 Air Pistol 4.5MM/.177 (BB) - First Use and Comparison with 9MM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- The Sig P365 is a great compact handgun. In 9mm it packs a solid little punch. But in this video we take a look at a very recognizable relative to the P365...but this time it's a 4.5mm/.177 air pistol. Utilizing 12g CO2 cartridges, this offers the ability to get some backyard training. From basic mechanics, to trigger pull, sight picture, and target acquisition, the Sig Airguns come close-ish to a somewhat realistic training tool without needing to head out to the range.
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As a replica airgun shooter I hope you don't mind me saying this, when you get a jam in a real steel firearm you just rack the slide and go again knowing that the gun will eject the shell/cartridge, airguns are very different. If you keep racking the slide the gun will just load more and more BBs into the breach, once the breach is full then they just start getting forced into the internal mechanism, which normally results in a slide jam or trigger failure (lock up).
The answer to this is to remove the magazine BEFORE racking the slide again, that way you don't get misfeeds into the gun, once you've cocked the gun put the magazine back into the gun and then try firing it again. There's no eject system on a BB gun so there's only one way they come out and that's at the business end of the barrel.
Different weapon, different system so a different discipline is involved, once you're acquainted with the procedure you should be good to go buddy.
Absolutely makes sense and glad to hear the advice. It is something to get used to and it's been fun to practice! Thanks for watching!
This particular gun loads the BB when you press the trigger. All what slide racking does is resetting the trigger. Also, there is no chamber - it shoots directly from the magazine.
@@frigzy3748 Yep, you're right buddy. When you pull the trigger it releases the hammer that pushes the BB forward and opens the magazine's internal CO2 valve. The slide doesn't reset the trigger though as it actually cocks the internal hammer so that it's working in a true single action when you pull the trigger. But you're right about the BBs not stacking into the breech though on multiple rackings, unless the magazine's spring pressure is 'popping' them into there when the BB guard is being disengaged when you slam the mag into the gun, that could be whats causing misfeeding issues. With a real steel auto you do need to slam the magazines home whereas with a CO2 BB replica nothing more than a gentle 'slide & click' is all that is needed.
Well spotted though mate, I'd missed that point, so I appreciate the heads up, nice one.
There is a trick how to load a whole bunch of BBs at once: depress the spring loaded gate at the top of the magazine with your left thumb while holding the magazine in the left hand. Then just pour the BBs in with your right hand.
Then what…..
I’ve notice when I shoot my p365 I have to do everything in the same order each time I empty the mag. I always rack it back and insert the mag then press the slide release button and it’ll rack it self. And yes overloading it will cause the spring pressure to be to high and it’ll cause jamming
By looking at both guns, I couldn't tell the difference between air pistol/firearm 🧐
Ya I figured, I bought the BB gun anyways and decided to mount it with two black dowels from IKEA, it works great lol.
I’m not gonna lie, it was kind of fun watching you struggle😂
I don't sugarcoat it like many other youtube channels. If I struggle I show it... that's how I roll.
Hello, unfortunately every single video I saw about this gun, everybody has an issue. It is beautuful gun and a great brand but not a reliable airgun. Sorry for that I really love this gun but I will never get one. Nice video by the way. Regrats
a few helpful comments below seem to solve some of the reliability issues.
No offense but pretty much all of these problems were not the fault of the gun. Reading the manual would have avoided the problems.
Also i think your video proves these guns just arent the same functionally as a real firearm also racking the slide to make clear does nothing on this model ive had bbs jammed in the barrel still after shooting, always lock the slide remove mag and look down the barrel when done to ensure empty, without c02 it cannot fire so looking down the barrel is a safe measure with certain airguns
Other than teenagers having fun these are perfect for holster drills I picked one up when I first got my real 365 2 years ago because I just got my carry permit never really operated a striker fire gun with one in the chamber on my purse and or had one like that and had a bad habit of handling Guns by putting my finger in the trigger Loop from Missing Years of not shooting actual firearms they're also good for doing scenarios like self-defense scenarios with your friends is it a good shoot bad shoot but as far as the blowback it's a waste unless you're drilling or training with the actual 1.1 version of the real firearm that you have and you're going to carry and use everyday
FYI you should always lube the end of the CO2 cartridge with Pellgunoil 241.
what does that do?
Not sure what BBs Sig provide in the box, but I had a few jams. Bought some basic Umarex steel BBs and they never jam - not on mine at least
Interesting... I wonder if maybe the Sig BBs are a slightly different diameter. Very interesting
@@OuterLimitless2 potentially, they definitely like up differently in the magazine
I can tell you for sure that the copper coated bbs do not work. Had trouble very similar to your video. I also got the umarex bbs figuring this was made by umarex.
@@atomicsmith I tried the copper AccuBB, constantly jammed. Also tried the dust devils and they just did not work at all. A positive though that it was the cheapest ammo of them all that worked best I suppose! And the power is pretty low so even if they ricochet it doesn't hurt at all.
What about holographic sites? Do they work for the BB gun P365 version? Thanks for the video.
I guess if you had a cut slide or an adapter
I bought one of these and could never get it working correctly. I'm sending it back.
Did you seat the co2 cartridge deep enough? I can see that being a common problem potentially
Sorry for the late question but do you know if the metal slide on the P365 BB gun is magnetic? I want to mount it on a safe magnet on the inside of the door beside my other Sig.
Hmm...I just tested it. The magnet was a strong rare earth magnet and it was NOT strong enough to hold the BB gun slide.
completely off topic, what brand is that red backpack behind you?
I wonder if the mag from the real thing fits in the bb to get a realistic weight for training purposes?🤔
No because the inner geometry is completely different.
George, maybe you can put a weight in where the co2 normally goes? You wouldn’t be able to fire but it sounds like you just wanted to train drawing and sighting anyway
What holster do you have for your 9 MM sig? (I guess they'd both fit!)
How realistic is the slide release when you put in a new magazine? I'm wanting to practice, among other things, reaching slide lock and loading a new mag from storage. Obviously, it won't be the exact same as the real thing, but is it close enough to be worthwhile? Snap caps are great and all, but I'd like to actually send something downrange!
Looking at buying one of these do you know if it can use the .177 pellets rather then bbs?
I tried to fit a pellet in the chamber, but the skirt did not fit. May be with some modifications?!!
Best to go for the M17 if would like to use Pellets. The P226 takes BB and Pellet, but the M17 feels better. Bit notchy on the trigger as plastic belt driven and although they say its a semi auto, it's not really. Those points aside, still pretty good for practicing with- although would benefit from adding a red dot sight as the built in ones are not adjustable and tends to fire low.
Thanks for the video. I wanted to buy one, but now I surely won't.
You actually have a 20 round mag the original magazine is shorter and can only hold 12
_That’s a Beautiful gun but on the side of functionality for a BB gun, it is horrible. I bought that gun twice and wasted my money twice because they both jammed up and don’t work. The Glock BBs are far better._
I'm a two time looser also. LoL this gun is junk. Jmo..
Dont buy a bb gun that cant be field stripped
Hahahaha did he pointed the gun to his face???? Lmaooooo
He filled it too full. Only supposed to take 12.
Mine holds 20
Try to put pelgunoil on slides gun over the gun
Hi, will the SIG air optic fit on the 365 BB pistol? Does the rear site come off to add the optic plate/adapter?
I have never tried, I'll see what I can figure out
How’s it working now…
Hey do you have tissues with the mag too?? Ingave 3 magazines and all 3 have issues holding the co2
User error.
After I learned to shoot my real version of this with extreme recoil control thumb right in the slides the BB gun blowback felt more like of what I was actually shooting plus I run a mini a threaded barrel only thing that is not realistic after you master The Recoil control because the slide does have ulcerations where your finger and thumb should go when you're firing this real firearm or at least I do only thing I'm missing is the loud ass sound and I can actually do drills in the yard instead of shooting straight at a piece of paper these are awesome for drill purposes but the blowbacks I would not buy for simply to shoot the nastiest most accurate air gun that I owned that's a pistol is the Beeman that looks like a desert eagle it's like 49 bucks it's a top self stroke I don't know how but there's zero recoil at all and it literally is the most accurate air gun I've ever shot and has one of the best triggers of any gun system I've ever used I tell anybody that has never used one or wants to shoot accurate or small pest accurately that is a one shot and pretty hard to Pump from the top takes a little bit of strength gets tired after a while but you can have super tight targets and competitions with your friends to see who gets the closest it is Dead on from up to over 50 ft shooting the heavy jsb
How tight do I need to tighten bottom to engage CO2? Not firing
I think you'll know... crank it until you hear the gas enter the chamber... it will hiss until you get it right enough.
@@OuterLimitless2 I cranked it and it all released. Did I crank it too much?
@@tonyaflaherty5872 I think you didn't crank far enough. It's definitely firm. As you tighten it punctures the silver film holding in the gas. You need to tighten beyond when it starts to leak to pressurize the gun... if you only puncture the cartridge it will leak out if you don't tighten enough
It helps a lot to dab a little air gun oil on each end of the CO2 cartridge.
I just pretend it's a snub nose revolver so accuracy don't matter
It has practically the same barrel length, might as well be a mag fed Detective Spc.
Why don't you put moe CO2 in it.
_That’s a Beautiful gun but on the side of functionality for a BB gun, it is horrible. I bought that gun twice and wasted my money twice because they both jammed up and don’t work. The Glock BBs are far better._
Do you remember if you were running copper BB's? mine was running flawlessly untill I started running crosman copperheads and it sucks horribly now. It seems that others have found the Umarex siver BBs to work well. Maybe that's my problem? Might be the diameter add from the copper or the surface grabs in the chamber more.
@@3dconceptsofutah757
Yup I was using old copper BBs