As someone who's approaching my 40 year anniversary as a full-time developer I completely agree. Some of the best developers I've worked with have decades of experience but they're constantly learning new things.
i do electronics repair for a living . i'm 60 now. it doesn't pay well. there are less skilled jobs that pay better. itt tech was a sham. i started learning python 3yrs ago. the goal is to use it in the electronic tech field and get a better paying job. still learning programming even faster now that i've got some skill at it. the stock screeners i've created are helping me make money in the stock market. i don't think ill turn them into bots because the market is so unpredictable. Don't know if i can get a programming job at 60. i can tutor , freelance, create some software program and sell it . those don't require an interview .
Heeeeeyyy Yh.. So you are the owner of that *Soft Skills book*. Its such an honour. That book I just starting reading and I was impressed totally. I needed enough SWE advice. I hope it'll do me more good. Actually I will be graduating with engineering at the age of 26, so I felt like I might be too old for this career. Well, I first got your book, but then, as usual, I felt a bit lazy and I just wanted to get some video recommendations since I really got a busy schedule this week and boom, my first suggestion is your video. Thanks.
I could not agree more! I am 54 y/o and have been developing SW and electronics for 39 years now. Since I was 15yo! I got a BSEE and later an MSEE. I hold a high position for the biggest electronics supplier, to automotive, in America. I feel like it's time I switched gears. I may do something so different. I am well liked for what I do at work, one of a couple major key players, and they do pay be very well. But I can see me spending my time opening a STEM center in my small town, which has amazing schools, and I would be doing something I truly am passionate about. I would love to sponsor FIRST robotics and be a pillar in my community, rather than churning out the bulk of architecture and design of projects that make 10s if not 100s of times my salary, that I don't get really... right? I think this video may have inspired me to start setting up for a major change in my life. BTW, I have always kept up on current trends and stayed current. This comment was more about MY choice to bail on the industry!
I wonder how many software engineers manage to stay in good health and shape as they get older. And manage to maintain a healthy social and dating life. In my experience as I get older, the biggest challenge of remaining in this career path is having time to be a normal person outside of the job. I keep in great physical shape for my age but the jobs take a mental health toll and physical if I'm not constantly and consciously making up for it with daily workouts and meditation / mindfulness practices. It's a lot to juggle and many other jobs don't seem to take over life quite as much.
Thank you for this video. Just subscribed. I'm over 60 learning python, and reading everything on tokenization, blockchain, web3. In full disclosure I did start out as a phototypesetter at age 21. We didn't call it coding but making ad copy was produced in code and sent to develop as galleys of type. IOW, what I created on screen was all in code, to get the results of what we read in a full page grocery store newspaper ad I created it all by code putting the type where it belonged from the request by the artist. I typeset on multiple systems for 15 years up until Aldus op was introduced, worked on it and switched careers to raise a family - my ex was in the Navy. We moved around. All throughout the marriage I simply kept up with the progression of the internet. Divorced a few years ago, empty nest, am back into it because it's so interesting. Just stay curious at any age. When I was 20 I was curious about how type was created instead of how artists created their work. It became a symbiotic relationship with graphic designers in commercial art. Now I'm excited about NFTs. ...--> I resigned my job in alarm security 2 weeks ago for a job in a different industry, that pays better, better environment, and a schedule that allows me to devote time to learn. Edited to fix typos.
I am 36years old and I started working just 6 months ago. I brought new concepts, techniques and libraries to the company where the oldest is 32. Never stop learning. Age is state of mind mostly
@@lukehanak yeah! But I see very often that people in the IT industry perceive people over 30 (not to mention 40+) as a slow learner and reverse-thinkers. Of course this is s pile of s... The worst part is that I could see this statement from people over 30 as well ("I am not learning as quickly as when I was young, it is too late to learn"). This is really bad perception as brain is like a muscle. The more you use it the better works. On another hand - people over 30 work full time or have families while 20 years old have often load of spare time to learn. I think this is the biggest issue and source of this point of view
I'm very happy to see such an example. I'm almost 50 and I'm looking for a change of career into this industry, but I must admit: my capacity of retain information is not the same as a few years ago, when I've used to travel in between different parts of the knowledgeable things I'm finda doing good though.
Yeah I think it'll always be dominated by the young as opposed to a different field like say law. Maybe for creativity reasons, it has the up and coming cutting edge vibe to it, but as long as you stay on top of emerging and current technologies and are willing to put yourself out there I think skills and experience are really what's needed and wanted. There will probably never be a shortage of young programmers but good ones are what is really in demand imo.
Staying up to date on new technology. The problem is, I see many new technology as undesirable. I never thought Cloud Computing was a good idea. Sure for a small niche that needs to scale fast. Now many people are looking at the cost and deciding to move that data back in-house. There are other flash in the pan things (blockchain) that later become niches, and I have no interest in. Python is exciting. Rust not so much. Learning all that takes lots of time and energy. Software is a fashion business. All this churn gets old after a while.
I remember following you on the programming channel for some years back then, then when checking some months ago you suddenly got more older looking. What exactly happened to you?
What the best approach for an older person to work yourself into an career in coding? In the old days it used to be a person wrote code long enough to create an stand alone application like freeware and even farther back In time an shareware software to make an living
Also been older person you don't want to be 24 hours 7 days a week slogging and starting to slobber on the keyboard going forward, you want time to see the sunshine and be with your partner and see your kids
As someone who's approaching my 40 year anniversary as a full-time developer I completely agree. Some of the best developers I've worked with have decades of experience but they're constantly learning new things.
I’m starting to learn at 38. I’ll be done with my Associates in year and half. I love learning and I hope to find a job then
i do electronics repair for a living . i'm 60 now. it doesn't pay well. there are less skilled jobs that pay better. itt tech was a sham. i started learning python 3yrs ago. the goal is to use it in the electronic tech field and get a better paying job. still learning programming even faster now that i've got some skill at it. the stock screeners i've created are helping me make money in the stock market. i don't think ill turn them into bots because the market is so unpredictable. Don't know if i can get a programming job at 60. i can tutor , freelance, create some software program and sell it . those don't require an interview .
Heeeeeyyy Yh.. So you are the owner of that *Soft Skills book*. Its such an honour. That book I just starting reading and I was impressed totally. I needed enough SWE advice. I hope it'll do me more good. Actually I will be graduating with engineering at the age of 26, so I felt like I might be too old for this career. Well, I first got your book, but then, as usual, I felt a bit lazy and I just wanted to get some video recommendations since I really got a busy schedule this week and boom, my first suggestion is your video. Thanks.
I could not agree more! I am 54 y/o and have been developing SW and electronics for 39 years now. Since I was 15yo! I got a BSEE and later an MSEE. I hold a high position for the biggest electronics supplier, to automotive, in America. I feel like it's time I switched gears. I may do something so different. I am well liked for what I do at work, one of a couple major key players, and they do pay be very well. But I can see me spending my time opening a STEM center in my small town, which has amazing schools, and I would be doing something I truly am passionate about. I would love to sponsor FIRST robotics and be a pillar in my community, rather than churning out the bulk of architecture and design of projects that make 10s if not 100s of times my salary, that I don't get really... right? I think this video may have inspired me to start setting up for a major change in my life.
BTW, I have always kept up on current trends and stayed current. This comment was more about MY choice to bail on the industry!
I think older programmers need to upgrade their skills, given they are in the industry that is fast-changing
Good take, learning new techniques, technologies, and frameworks is continuous.
I wonder how many software engineers manage to stay in good health and shape as they get older. And manage to maintain a healthy social and dating life. In my experience as I get older, the biggest challenge of remaining in this career path is having time to be a normal person outside of the job. I keep in great physical shape for my age but the jobs take a mental health toll and physical if I'm not constantly and consciously making up for it with daily workouts and meditation / mindfulness practices. It's a lot to juggle and many other jobs don't seem to take over life quite as much.
Tech is a young man's game. You 35 and are about to learn some hard truths.
Thank you for this video. Just subscribed. I'm over 60 learning python, and reading everything on tokenization, blockchain, web3. In full disclosure I did start out as a phototypesetter at age 21. We didn't call it coding but making ad copy was produced in code and sent to develop as galleys of type. IOW, what I created on screen was all in code, to get the results of what we read in a full page grocery store newspaper ad I created it all by code putting the type where it belonged from the request by the artist. I typeset on multiple systems for 15 years up until Aldus op was introduced, worked on it and switched careers to raise a family - my ex was in the Navy. We moved around. All throughout the marriage I simply kept up with the progression of the internet. Divorced a few years ago, empty nest, am back into it because it's so interesting. Just stay curious at any age. When I was 20 I was curious about how type was created instead of how artists created their work. It became a symbiotic relationship with graphic designers in commercial art. Now I'm excited about NFTs. ...--> I resigned my job in alarm security 2 weeks ago for a job in a different industry, that pays better, better environment, and a schedule that allows me to devote time to learn.
Edited to fix typos.
I'm 60 and still a software dev. However once I leave my current job I don't think I will get hired again, despite having current skills.
I am 36years old and I started working just 6 months ago. I brought new concepts, techniques and libraries to the company where the oldest is 32. Never stop learning. Age is state of mind mostly
Lol you're still young
@@lukehanak yeah! But I see very often that people in the IT industry perceive people over 30 (not to mention 40+) as a slow learner and reverse-thinkers. Of course this is s pile of s... The worst part is that I could see this statement from people over 30 as well ("I am not learning as quickly as when I was young, it is too late to learn"). This is really bad perception as brain is like a muscle. The more you use it the better works. On another hand - people over 30 work full time or have families while 20 years old have often load of spare time to learn. I think this is the biggest issue and source of this point of view
So you didn’t start till mid 30s? Still enjoying it?
I'm very happy to see such an example. I'm almost 50 and I'm looking for a change of career into this industry, but I must admit: my capacity of retain information is not the same as a few years ago, when I've used to travel in between different parts of the knowledgeable things
I'm finda doing good though.
Yeah I think it'll always be dominated by the young as opposed to a different field like say law. Maybe for creativity reasons, it has the up and coming cutting edge vibe to it, but as long as you stay on top of emerging and current technologies and are willing to put yourself out there I think skills and experience are really what's needed and wanted. There will probably never be a shortage of young programmers but good ones are what is really in demand imo.
Staying up to date on new technology. The problem is, I see many new technology as undesirable. I never thought Cloud Computing was a good idea. Sure for a small niche that needs to scale fast. Now many people are looking at the cost and deciding to move that data back in-house. There are other flash in the pan things (blockchain) that later become niches, and I have no interest in.
Python is exciting. Rust not so much. Learning all that takes lots of time and energy. Software is a fashion business. All this churn gets old after a while.
You have spurts of sounding like Jeff Goldblum but I’m learning some languages as we speak so thanks for the motivation!
I remember following you on the programming channel for some years back then, then when checking some months ago you suddenly got more older looking. What exactly happened to you?
What the best approach for an older person to work yourself into an career in coding? In the old days it used to be a person wrote code long enough to create an stand alone application like freeware and even farther back In time an shareware software to make an living
Also been older person you don't want to be 24 hours 7 days a week slogging and starting to slobber on the keyboard going forward, you want time to see the sunshine and be with your partner and see your kids
At age 48 and having been in IT for over 20 years do NOT go into this field. It has no longevity. Ageism is a problem!
Can you elaborate
voice a lot squeakier back then, John
Recycling old videos huh?