If the wolfpack retained Joey, they could've lost. This is a hypothetical & I don't know all the details, so correct me if I'm wrong. Or add something I missed. The Wolfpack retained ABR for a lot of points. They couldn't have gotten both him and Joey with their points. If ABR was on another team, who would've been playing the SM games? Potentially someone not as hot as ABR. I love Joey, but he hasn't been having a good year. Its a butterfly effect.
And the Wolfpacks main DPPer, Void went 6-2 I believe. And he cost half of what Joey cost lol. But aim gonna be back, plays too many tiers at a high level to not be drafted
The freeze was the most bullshit thing I've ever seen. TDK has had an amazing SPL and has been so clutch throughout the tour and then loses to a freeze. Such a shame. Grats to ABR and the pack though.
okay?? it was the best play he could make, and i dont see how a 70% chance not to burn = 10% chance to freeze. Ive seen people try to justify the freeze with the lava plume... but thats just plain silly - most run magma storm because its broken and even joey thought that was the tran varient. Gliscor was the best play for TDK and I dont know how that justifies a bullshit freeze that cost tdk the game.
obviously you can't switch out of a magma storm, which is clearly what tdk expected, so doubling can't be a play. gliscor was the best midground play he could make.
Durza When something is ur wincon u have to consider every posibble sets and more in a final tie break. Gliscor was the most important moon, u cant suppose sets, greninja can switch in a magma, then a easy doble for activate the orb and done
No. Has to have just three letters though. ABR, TDK, aim, obi, BKC, CBB, CTC, BTB, pif... But then there's blunder, miltankmilk, Hootie, Kaori, Finch, Snou, Alexander and others like Kanto, roscoe... so not really.
gen 4 is definitely my favorite. no team preview is a cool mechanic, the phys spec split makes the game alot better, and gen 4 adds alot of cool mons that made gen 3 kinda lame, there was like 3 good fire mons in adv, its just all around much more fun. gen 5 is a close contender too.
KrisGoHard I know that the freeze chance is lower I'm not saying that the freeze didn't matter (it obviously did) I'm saying that the game would've been over even earlier if Gliscor got the burn
I mean... he didn’t necessarily. He even says “if it’s specs...” do anything he said about it being a mega was an assumption and him explaining the effects of that assumption is true
SPOILERS Don't know how to feel about this game, I wanted it to be less haxy as possible, but instead that freeze on Zone turned the tide of the game completely. Had it not happened, Gliscor would've probably won in the end, but that's the ABR factor lol Glad that people like Rob and Kanto won their first trophy tho :D
ya but if your gonna do that why not look at all the games in all the spl? ffs, u wanna calculate the amount of luck based wins in the whole of pokemon history and then figure out the chances? Its irrelevant what previously happened.
That sucks, TDK could've won pretty easily without the freeze. yea the turn 1 Gliscor play was fucking stupid, but NOT getting burned isn't hax, getting burned IS. Between pivoting around with Venu and Gliscor, I don't imagine ABR breaking through easily, if at all :/
removing freeze and full paras from the game is the only way pokemon will ever be taken seriously as a competitive game. what a garbage game to watch, honestly.
Here's how you make pokemon competitive. *Constitution of competitive mons:* Max damage rolls occurs always. Limited Evs for the whole six party memebers. 508 hp 508 def 508 sp def example : chansey (252 def) (252 spdef) (4 hp), toxapex (252spdef) (252 hp) (4 def) skarmory (252 def) (252 hp) (4 spdef) so this would be minimum 3 defensive mons at best meaning stall team building are restricted. you are still free to run 6 walls but those other 3 mons wont get the defense and hp ev investment lol so good luck. Remove -critical hits (except when you focus energy while holding scope lens at the same time and when your item got knocked off you can no longer do critical hits even if you set up focus energy). -accuracy, -evasion, -freeze, -bright powder, -quick claw, -full para but keep the speed minus effect -1 hit KO moves -flinch -attract status -confuse status -Baton pass -moves with secondary effects (except fake out can flinch coz game freak finally knows luck is a bullshit mechanic in competitive game). -protect works for 1 turn and fails the next turn -sleep turns are always 2 turns of sleep early bird is 1 turn. -sleep clause 1 mon with sleep status only. -no speed tie 50/50 but instead whoever makes their move first will go first. -ability such as weather, terrain, intimidate speed tie 50/50 ain't gonna happen but instead the ability would show first alphabetical base in their first original letter. Nick names don't count. -Ex: gyarados and lando t has same speed which means gyarados intimidates first then lando second. Coz letter G is before L in alphabet. 1 per game you can choose to guarantee 1 max roll critical hit on 1 pokemon. use it wisely. #MakePokemonGreatAgain
Why the f evereyone in smogon has 3 letters as their user name, TDK, ABR, BKC, CTC, CBB?!
the A in ABR stands for aDrive
Neko Kranz does not u liar
Isaiah Jack You obviously don't get the joke, my man haha
Neko Kranz wait what’s the joke?
Victini Network ADrive is a poketuber known for getting frozen alot.
after joey leaves the wolfpack they make finals and then win the championship...
If the wolfpack retained Joey, they could've lost. This is a hypothetical & I don't know all the details, so correct me if I'm wrong. Or add something I missed.
The Wolfpack retained ABR for a lot of points. They couldn't have gotten both him and Joey with their points. If ABR was on another team, who would've been playing the SM games? Potentially someone not as hot as ABR. I love Joey, but he hasn't been having a good year. Its a butterfly effect.
And the Wolfpacks main DPPer, Void went 6-2 I believe. And he cost half of what Joey cost lol. But aim gonna be back, plays too many tiers at a high level to not be drafted
The freeze was the most bullshit thing I've ever seen. TDK has had an amazing SPL and has been so clutch throughout the tour and then loses to a freeze. Such a shame. Grats to ABR and the pack though.
okay?? it was the best play he could make, and i dont see how a 70% chance not to burn = 10% chance to freeze. Ive seen people try to justify the freeze with the lava plume... but thats just plain silly - most run magma storm because its broken and even joey thought that was the tran varient. Gliscor was the best play for TDK and I dont know how that justifies a bullshit freeze that cost tdk the game.
Durza thank u someone says who lost so I don't gotta watch it. Stink tdk lost
Durza nah the best play was greninja first and a doble to gliscor by far
obviously you can't switch out of a magma storm, which is clearly what tdk expected, so doubling can't be a play. gliscor was the best midground play he could make.
Durza When something is ur wincon u have to consider every posibble sets and more in a final tie break. Gliscor was the most important moon, u cant suppose sets, greninja can switch in a magma, then a easy doble for activate the orb and done
if i want to be a pro mons player does my name have to be a abbreviation?
SpearMKW aka ζρεαr no
SpearMKW aka ζρεαr *blunder*
SpearMKW aka ζρεαr Yes.
No. Has to have just three letters though. ABR, TDK, aim, obi, BKC, CBB, CTC, BTB, pif...
But then there's blunder, miltankmilk, Hootie, Kaori, Finch, Snou, Alexander and others like Kanto, roscoe... so not really.
Sabbio pif?????????????
I too would've liked to see how the game could've turned out without the freeze.
i swear if ABR wins (because Lati in the thumbnail)
EDIT:GODDAMNIT JOEY
This game was so frustrating to watch
Joey did you miss turn one where he risks his win con?
Eli he didn't u idiot he mentioned it
Isaiah Jack nigga stfu
Damn, that's so unfort with the freeze. But good job to both teams for making finals
gen 7 is so ridiculously lame to watch
which gen is best?
Sean Lee 3 or 4
gen 3 if singles
gen 4 is definitely my favorite. no team preview is a cool mechanic, the phys spec split makes the game alot better, and gen 4 adds alot of cool mons that made gen 3 kinda lame, there was like 3 good fire mons in adv, its just all around much more fun. gen 5 is a close contender too.
scab eater I agree with u
the freeze won
Ngl this game would've been straight up OVER is Gliscor got the burn
Gustavo Rodríguez 70% chance to not burn vs 10% chance to freeze.
KrisGoHard I know that the freeze chance is lower
I'm not saying that the freeze didn't matter (it obviously did)
I'm saying that the game would've been over even earlier if Gliscor got the burn
How could you tell the lati was mega before it mega evolved, as opposed to any other item?
Brandon Barker looking at the team
Regular Lati is pretty bad these days too so nobody runs it
I mean... he didn’t necessarily. He even says “if it’s specs...” do anything he said about it being a mega was an assumption and him explaining the effects of that assumption is true
Brandon Barker ur dumb
SPOILERS
Don't know how to feel about this game, I wanted it to be less haxy as possible, but instead that freeze on Zone turned the tide of the game completely. Had it not happened, Gliscor would've probably won in the end, but that's the ABR factor lol Glad that people like Rob and Kanto won their first trophy tho :D
Denis The Menace Shoutouts to UU and league goat poketcggamer.
Denis The Menace stink tdk lost I'm not gonna watch it now. On 8.49
that one hurt me and I'm just a spectator
What team was blunder in?
John Rosa tyrants
Fire Professor Layton remix in the background tho :]
Joey this is why you stay with one.
Turn 57 I was yelling "hit facade"
Ekzdee TV ice beam kills
I hope you play better next spl fren :[ rough season but at least teams can afford you now
classic ABR luck, unfortunate.
Beautiful way to end the finals :] congrats u know who (don't wanna spoil)
Someone needs to fix the freeze chance on showdown. Legit feels like 30% and not 10%
30 minutes bro, I almost kill myself
I already saw the game live but i'll watch for the comentary
What s up Pokeaim
Type unfort for my boy TDK
New meta time to run 6 lum berries on all your mons to prevent hax
Renbou lol then scarf wins
ok blah blah blah abr hax but wolfpack won anyway if trosko didnt get haxed so like
ya but if your gonna do that why not look at all the games in all the spl? ffs, u wanna calculate the amount of luck based wins in the whole of pokemon history and then figure out the chances? Its irrelevant what previously happened.
theyre both the finals match lol
fair enough
ABR stay lucking
MONEY MATCH
That sucks, TDK could've won pretty easily without the freeze. yea the turn 1 Gliscor play was fucking stupid, but NOT getting burned isn't hax, getting burned IS. Between pivoting around with Venu and Gliscor, I don't imagine ABR breaking through easily, if at all :/
always spoiler in a thumb
zashi nunes who won
removing freeze and full paras from the game is the only way pokemon will ever be taken seriously as a competitive game.
what a garbage game to watch, honestly.
nycotic I completely agree
nycotic Pokémon isn't a competitive game
Not necessarily. lmao
Here's how you make pokemon competitive.
*Constitution of competitive mons:*
Max damage rolls occurs always.
Limited Evs for the whole six party memebers.
508 hp
508 def
508 sp def
example :
chansey (252 def) (252 spdef) (4 hp),
toxapex (252spdef) (252 hp) (4 def)
skarmory (252 def) (252 hp) (4 spdef)
so this would be minimum 3 defensive mons at best meaning stall team building are restricted.
you are still free to run 6 walls but those other 3 mons wont get the defense and hp ev investment lol so good luck.
Remove
-critical hits (except when you focus energy while holding scope lens at the same time and when your item got knocked off you can no longer do critical hits even if you set up focus energy).
-accuracy,
-evasion,
-freeze,
-bright powder,
-quick claw,
-full para but keep the speed minus effect
-1 hit KO moves
-flinch
-attract status
-confuse status
-Baton pass
-moves with secondary effects (except fake out can flinch coz game freak finally knows luck is a bullshit mechanic in competitive game).
-protect works for 1 turn and fails the next turn
-sleep turns are always 2 turns of sleep
early bird is 1 turn.
-sleep clause 1 mon with sleep status only.
-no speed tie 50/50 but instead whoever makes their move first will go first.
-ability such as weather, terrain, intimidate speed tie 50/50 ain't gonna happen but instead the ability would show first alphabetical base in their first original letter. Nick names don't count.
-Ex: gyarados and lando t has same speed which means gyarados intimidates first then lando second. Coz letter G is before L in alphabet.
1 per game you can choose to guarantee 1 max roll critical hit on 1 pokemon.
use it wisely.
#MakePokemonGreatAgain
DRUG BAG FUCCK Your trying to make a boring as hell game that favor stall and defensive play.
Super lame game :/ what a boring finals
#freecbb
First