Vocal Coach Analysis: REN & Chinchilla sings "Chalk outlines" - another brilliantly written song!
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- After being introduced to Ren just a week or so ago, I did a totally blind first reaction to "Hi Ren" last week. This song and performance knocked me between the eyes, especially since I din't know what to expect at all...
I was so hooked, though, that I decided to check out this interesting artist and songwriter so more. It was also suggested by a few of my followers that I check out this song, "Chalk Outlines". And well, here it is!
Check out my analysis of "Hi Ren" here:
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I really hope you do The Tales of Jenny and Screech (FULL) the full is important, as it's a story song in 3 parts. It's lengthy, but worth it. More live performance, and use of surrounding reverb. And lyrically and musically it's brilliant.
No prewatching this time, nothing wrong with bit emotion. How to be me live worth a listen to also
@@9madness9 I agree. This one is a mini-movie and you don't want to spoil the impact of the story for yourself (and for us).
🙏🏼 please do?!
(the FULL version 13+ mins - no lyrics - & def NO closed captioning, as they're ALWAYS wrong! lol.)
He will not like the words but the music he should love
Please do and please do not pre-watch it, it is not the same! (:
Not only does his raw pitchiness not matter to me, but I find it a positive breath of fresh air in these days of highly manicured autotuned banalities.
A raw, live, one-take, one-mic record of vocal passion beats the crap out of the artifice that is our usual lot.
Singers like Ren gets away with being slightly and every now and then inaccurate pitch wise in fact this fact enhances his art rather than diminish it. That is because his soulful raw emotions overcompensates for pitch imperfections and comes across as expressive and at times elemental of conversationallike which is highly emotive. Auto-tune or even pitch corrections will erase this unique quality of artists like Ren. Not every singer can get away with this because they just don't have the depth of expression and intense feeling delivered by Ren type artists. While autotune will benefit the somewhat vocally weak singers on pitch matters it robs artists like Ren of character, expression and emotional connection. See how unfair the prevalent and standardised across the board use of this robotic device is upon artists if you are signed to a major record label.
Chinchilla is a powerful artist in her own right. Check out "Fingers", the live on Hunger TV version.
One of the best vocal performances i've heard in years.
i mean .....she HAS toured with Sting! like, YEAH, she's an absolute living legend already as well! lol.
I am playing with ya… she sorta gets around. :) She hit US/UK/Canada/Aus/NZ iTunes Chart No. 1 sales spot for debut and the next week on her first debut song. Over 1 million videos using her chorus on TikTok in 3 months for many empowerment videos. She and Ren are hitting success in their own ways together! :) love them both.
Yes this is a must.. crazy how low the views are on this video.
Yes
Ren often picks spaces for the acoustics. If you do the Tales of Jenny and Screech (FULL), the third part has him moving through a building with deliberate pauses to provide natural acoustics from the spaces he's in. It's absolutely amazing and one of the most incredible bits of one-shot choreography I've ever seen or heard just for that.
Highly recommend. It's a MUST ... witness.
Yeah, he uses the environment like instrument.
He's also great at using silence as a part of his tool box.
Never ever listen to Ren without us before! we want experience your first real reaction love your analisys! I also highly recommend "how to be me" by this duo and "fingers" live by Chinchilla. I was blown away listening to this
I think that Ren's vocal style, that "push", that clarity , was something developed during the years he sang on the streets in Brighton. You are correct about Ren being self taught. There are several duets with Chinchilla, including some singing out on the streets. Chinchilla was a bit daunted at the idea, but Ren finally got her out there. Thanks for you sharing with us!
Watching it beforehand kind of takes the fun out of the experience for many of the people who love to watch reactions. We can’t ever see it for the first time again so we watch others do it so we can kind of feel that way again through others.
Yup. Soon as someone says that I instantly click off. Which I did here too.
It's not labeled as a reaction video. It clearly says Analysis
@@andrewwright5407 yes I understand. I just think most people don’t watch for an analysis of a song that person has seen before. Most come to watch people experience things for the first time.
@@michellelevert5128Yup! I was disappointed when I heard he had seen it before but because I enjoyed his reaction to Hi Ren, I stayed.
Yes. I get that people want to analyze but our joy is in the reaction.
This is such a beautiful song, ren and chinchilla mesh so well together. I think youd also enjoy their live version of "how to be me", its got a lot of vocal acrobatics in it 💜💜
Highly recommend "How to Be Me" live by Ren and Chinchilla. Amazing song and performance! Subbed.
Was just going to say this - please do "How to be Me"!!
My favorite part about this song, towards the end of the bridge, while she's sort of whisper wailing behind him, it's just something really magical that they captured with the two emotions here. you have Ren giving off this numb sadness, and then her in the background with so much more pain emoted, but at the same time repressed. Combined, it somehow reminds me of that fraction of a second just before you cry, that tight, almost warm feeling you get in your throat, and then all the music drops out and it feels just like the tears fall. I don't know, I wish there was a word for it, i'm not even sure that description is coherent enough to follow, but it just fascinates me that they were able to both somehow capture that, and then convey it back to us.
you just reminded me of something a meditation teacher taught me about living in union (yoga), "it's like that feeling just before you smile"
I always felt that this song is a duality of the inner thoughts of one person, the ying and yang of our personality. This is the significance of the power outage before he gets the chair and guitar. It happens again just before Chinchilla is revealed. Just like Hi Ren, it signifies the dual personality within ourselves, the feminine and the masculine this time.
Hi. You must watch and analyze Ren the tale of Jenny and Screech. It is a story consisting of 3 songs where the first and third are probably 4 years apart. Each one is unique and amazing. You will surely be surprised at the end. :)
He said he found hi Ren overwhelming, I think maybe he should wait a bit on those lol
I’ve heard them over 100 times and I still get overwhelmed by them! They make me feel my feelings a whole lot
Several suggestions for the trilogy... I'll check it out! Thanks for watching 😊
@@JohanBesterYourVocalCoachif you do, do the one that's all three parts in one video (the 13 minute one)
@@JohanBesterYourVocalCoach if you do it, be aware that you should not watch it before, and even not look at the lyrics... it's a bit of an ask, I do realise that
@@JohanBesterYourVocalCoach Being that you found Hi Ren a bit "too much", I don't recommend the Tales... they're good, but very dark.
"I'm scared of being okay cuz all things change" might be the hardest hitting lyric I've ever heard in my life.
I love Ren because of what his music makes me feel. He’s so unique and talented but his talent is the whole of what he creates, if that makes sense. The singing is good, but it’s not “perfect”. I think that’s what I like about it though because I feel like perfection cuts out the emotion and meaning behind the words. Now, Chinchilla is a whole other world of talent. Her live performances (e.g. Fingers live for hunger tv and Little Girl Gone Requiem) will blow you out of the water.
Thanks for the comment - I'll check her out!
The favorite thing I’ve heard in a Ren listen is a classical musician pointed out that while some of his guitar work sounds like good classical guitar, the way he holds his hands indicates that he taught himself. It’s quite impressive. Now, having you point out that the way he uses his voice, while very good singing, indicates him teaching himself. I think it’s amazing how he becomes interested in a new facet of creation and just does it, and excels. He’s both driven and talented, which is why he’s brilliant.
Do you remember which musician said that? ❤
@@feenomenal9984 I don’t, but it was in conversation, so at least two people were there. If it comes to me I’ll say.
@EmbraceTheSuck21
@@wurzella1 Not them, because I haven’t seen their reactions, although I’ll check them out cuz why not. Do they say something similar, or is this a fly by suggestion?
@@limner123 I heard that comment today and that was the only reaction in my history with 2 people so figured it was that. It's going to annoy me now 😬
You need to react to Chinchilla's "Fingers Live for Hunger TV", jaw-dropping vocal control.
STUNNING vocals on that one.
Great reaction! I really enjoy hearing your thoughts. I do feel, a little, that we lost out on hearing your initial reaction to it. I appreciate the honesty and I get if that sort of unknown can be daunting to broadcast, given the subject matters he touches on in his lyrics, but it's something very authentic about seeing someone experience it for the first time. I have thought about why that is, and I can only speak for myself here, but I think it is a little bit like experience it for the first time again. Anyway, if you do end up doing the Tale of Jenny and Screech trilogy I would ask you to at least consider doing it as a blind reaction - at least consider recording your initial reaction and then make up your mind if you feel comfortable putting it online. Anyway, enough of my ramblings! Thank you for revisiting Ren and be well!
Thanks for your lovely comment - really appreciated!
I agree. That said, there is something to be said with going back and doing a deep dive. I love watching people experience this for the first time, but I appreciate learning a little more about the music than I can grasp as a layman.
The chalk outlines is not to do with physical death but the mental death from taking the pills to cut the voices out the anxiety out just to partially function and how you feel not yourself when on such pills.
I believe it to be both, and other things too
One Ren interested, two Ren SUBSCRIBE
Also Chinny is off the wall amazing with her vocals, she really flexes on her solo stuff.
Also, while Rens music often discusses mental health, it doesn’t always. Sometimes he’s a cheeky bugger and just likes wordplay, so don’t be surprised if you bump into some Ren music that throws you for a loop 🤣
You're correct, Ren is self taught in singing as well as in all of his instrumentation, guitar, bass, piano, drums and beatboxing. He also has heavy influences from Jazz, Reggae and Ska genre's. One my favorite songs by Ren is "Ready For You", where he blends Jazz, Spoken Word & Rapping, with some impressive scatting and runs throughout that track. Also his performance; with his band The Big Push, in the mashup of "I Shot The Sherriff/Road to Zion/Hip Hop" is a must see where he blends a little blues, reggae, ska, scatting & rap seamlessly. Music just exudes from his pours🤯❤❤.
Love your brilliant analysis of the lyrical details. Your expertise and your insights were top notch!
Wow... thanks so much 😊
The chalk outlines to me at least, refers to the Zombie state that most anti depressants put you in.
They numb you to the point where the true you dies and you are left a floating shell of yourself
Anti-depressants, but also other pills for chronic mental and physical pains.
When KariSma says that the melody is kind of usual, well-known, pop-like, then I feel like it's specifically made dull just like the emotional state of people on those pills. There are clearly deep emotions going on in the words (and the singers bring them out vocally towards the end), but the guitar always floats somewhere in the middle, 'afraid' or 'unable' to stray from the 'lifeless' centre.
couldn't have put it better myself, speaking from personal experience it's a very accurate description
Exactly / and then the fear to feel differently on a better day.
Yay a new "Ren"egade! I thouroughly enjoyed your reaction and hope to see alot more! I agree The Tales of Jenny and Screech (FULL) is a must ! New sub btw✌❤
Ren and Chinchilla have another song together "How to be Me" .please no more prewatching lol
I like that you noticed the intentionality of the sound before he starts playing. The sound of the chair snapping open reminds me of the classic jail cell door closing sound, which sets a trapped kind of feeling for me. And then he starts, "I'm still here in this bed that I crawled in." Just sublime.
Ren is very deliberate, and has remarked that he thinks of his videos as part of the song creation process. It's a crazy ride, but if you're familiar with Orwellian themes, you might be interested in his "Animal Flow." It's a great example of his creativity, his thoughts on society, and his willingness to just let it all hang out there without worrying about how contemporary music should be. I love it, but it took me several watches to better understand it.
If you like storytelling, The Tales of Jenny and Screech trilogy should be next. He embraces each with an imperfect sound and hints of "improper" pronunciation. It's masterful how his performance draws you in. ("Money Game" is also great storytelling, though completely different.)
I understand his mother is a singer, but I'm not sure what he was taught. I know he learned to play guitar watching videos of Hendrix and John Frusciante (Red Hot Chili Peppers). He first started selling music by producing beats and making CDs of them when he was young. He began attending a musical college, in Bath I think, but dropped out sĥortly when he became too ill to attend. He was bedridden for a long time, but read a lot and philosophized a lot, as well as wrote and practiced. He also plays bass, drums and piano, and creates his own beats.
Lovely reaction - BTW this song was written by both of them as they collaborated in the writing and performance. Chinchilla is an extraordinary artist who writes and produces her own work which is fast becoming recognised. Go to Fingers Live for Hunger TV to really hear her voice and what she is capable of.
" he just makes whatever sound he wants to make " um yeah, that pretty much sums Ren up and we're all here for it. There is just something very special about him.
💗💗💗You got some great artists on your channel lately...Putri, Emma Kok, and now these two... love it! Peace and love from Bavaria!
Thank you so much! I appreciate your feedback 😊
I enjoyed your reaction so much! It was so authentic and really insightful! Thank YOU for not being pretentious 😊and just enjoying the performance! Ren is a wonderful lyricist and his emotions come through in the words as well as the performance! I love his rawness, his wicked wit and obvious intelligence! I look forward Tom seeing more of your reactions to him and other artists! Ren excels at live performances and he has collaborations with many different artists(all worth a look/listen) he was a member of a band, The Big Push, which has some great covers, mash-ups and originals which are exceptional! Welcome to the RENiverse! ✌🏻🫶🏻
Omg, I loved your technical review. You hit the nail on the head
yes, you nailed it, "not pretentious" thats the best i've seen it put. The themes and stories he presents could so easily be sappy, banal or pretentious but they aren't. His art is making them relatable and human.
I thoroughly enjoyed learning about this song through your analysis. Thank you.
Listen to How to Be Me. Ren and Chinchilla. Beautiful.
The live version
I am very much enjoying your insightful reactions!
Love your work.
Only started watching a few days ago and love your break downs.
Very matter of fact and well don’t.
Keep it up!
I’ve subbed,just hoping for more ren reactions. Your a very good reactor.
Interesting analysis! I like that you comment on the setting, and the terrific diction. I find that so important in songs, and so often overlooked.
I knew you would Love Chinchilla!!! I am so happy you covered this.
For me it’s the line ”I’m scared of being okay, ’cause all things change” that gets me everytime. When life has served you with a lot of disappointment, you’re never far away from another.
And again, welcome to the Renaissance!
Thank you for your great Ren X Chinchilla reaction & analysis!
Very informative Analysis. Like it a lot. 🙏
Thank you so much!
Another good reaction, no matter how many times i hear this song, i get goosebumps Everytime she does her belting at the end.👍🍀
Really enjoyed your analysis of Chalk Outlines and Hi Ren, thank you so much, glad to have found you through the Renaissance-verse! Another duet they did together which I think you will love is "How To Be Me (Live)", make sure it's the LIVE version, it's so hauntingly beautiful, absolutely blew me away!
Chalk outlines are actually drawn around the surviving victims of a violent crime, documenting where they were positioned, before being removed by paramedics to attempt lifesaving treatment.
Corpses are able to be left at the scene long enough for crime-scene photographers to record where they lay and what happened, but the potential survivors only get a chalk outline.
If they don't survive medical treatment the chalk outline may be their only testimony of what happened to them.
It's an extremely common misconception about chalk outlines only being drawn around dead bodies, rather than surviving victims...which is a great metaphor for how society views chronic illness.
You are already perceived as dead by outsiders, or act in a way as if you may as well be dead, withdrawn, even though you're still alive. Drawing an outline around yourself? 😢
Ren is not a Trained Musician but self taught off youtube videos which makes his accomplishments even more Fantastic! His sense of Rhythm and Tempo is so precise to the Emotion he is trying to evoke as to be actually Genius! I'm a 61 Year Old Fan of Great Storytellers from Classic rock's Jim Croche and Cat Stevens to the Metal Rock of Iron Maiden, and Ren is Clearly on par with any of them! His Vocal Clarity in every Genre he plays in is beyond the Norm and allows many fans to enjoy his songs even if they don't normally listen to that Genre!
I love this. Thanks again.
Great reaction, really enjoyed your analysis. I’d recommend Chinchilla “Fingers Live For Hunger TV”. I think you’ll be surprised by the vocal styles she showcases!
Great song and great reaction full of info.
Great reaction. Hope you continue to react to more Ren and hopefully Chinchilla. New sub.👍
I love this song ! They sing very well !! Amazing
He is a self taught singer as well as self taught guitarist, best maker, and pianist.
I REALLY enjoyed your outlook and perception of what he aims to get across in his music. Subscribed and definitely excited to continue watching your reactions
Great reaction 👌🏼
You need to listen to more Ren to truly appreciate his vocals. I can guarantee that he'll surprise you! He has a great voice. Capable of multiple voices, styles and tones. More powerful than you'd think and with oodles of control. He understands vocal light and shade very well and adds little subtleties and nuances. It may help to know that his vocal icons are Nina Simone and Jeff Buckley.
I'd recommend "Man's World" to hear yet another side of Ren. It's part of a trio of songs, sung with Sam Tompkins, whilst busking in Brighton. It's a good place to start, for certain. His live acoustic version of murder is another. After a while you realise that a lot that you thought was relatively random, is very deliberate. He also loves to play around on the edges of imperfection, which is always something that I love in a musician. He'll sometimes do the same while playing an instrument. He loves his guitars but he can play ten instruments well. Half of them ridiculously well! He also lays down all his own music/beats and is a top-notch producer. He directs most of his own videos too. Most of them recorded live, in a single take. As with this song and Hi Ren. His lyricism is fantastic. He's a poet really. He also raps like a rap god, with incredible flow and constant changes of flow and cadence. He also has a wicked sense of humour, which pops up frequently. He's entirely self-taught Mostly in the gaps in the chronic pain caused by his array of serious medical conditions. The one exception is his voice. He was helped on some basic vocal techniques, by his mother who, funnily enough, is a vocal coah! :)
Thank you for bringing me to Ren's music some months ago❤. Last week he released a very interesting song Back to 74/Message in a bottle retake. I'm sure you would love it.
A new subscriber 🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧 THANKYOU sir 🙏
Ren is a self taught everything. Chinchilla is trained by coaches. Both are unique and amazing talents.
I recommend The Tale Of Jenny and Screech (Official Music Video) and please don't pre-watch it. Part of the fun for us viewers is getting to watch you REACT for the first time!
Another masterpiece composition from Ren! :)
You good, he good, we good. Thank you for your interpretarion of this.
For me, the pinnacle of Ren & Chinchilla will always be "How to be me (Live)". I'm still training to watch that without crying.
Great reaction
bro we watch a whole lot of reactions, really dig the way you tabulate/chord the vibes.. camp but sweet.
I wish you would have saved your first listen to share with us, but I'm glad you are on this Ren journey!
For me its the imperfections that make it perfect.
CHINCILLA is amazing. As others have said, please do 'how to be me' the live version, but for her solo songs, Fingers live is stunning but many over look 'cold water' you'll find in Chinchilla topic and not on her channel. It's just next level stunning.
She is his echo emphasising the metaphoricl and literal empty space, down to the choreography.
I totally agree that you can here imperfection but it makes it perfect!
This is a beautiful song ❤️ yes it’s live.
I think you will love "how to be me" sang again by both of them❤
Thank you for your thoughts on this. Your insight is very interesting, and seeing you discover Ren is a lot of fun. Ren said in an interview somewhere that the way he feels the music is very important to his writing process, and you can see that in his live performances. There is a Sting cover which you might enjoy, by the way. It is with his band 'The Big Push'. Three of them sing and play the guitar, which means they do some wonderful harmonizing. They covered Englishman in New York.
Great breakdown! Got a new subscriber!
If you want to see them together again, you could do "How to be me", also the live version. Its marvelous... But please, please, please don't watch it before your reaction! That's half the fun of it, to get your first unfiltered impression. Nevertheless, very concise and interesting analysis!
Ren fan in subbed up x
It is amazing how thier voices and melody can engage the tear ducts without even grasping the content of the lyrics much like how Floor Jansen of Nightwish causes the same emotional reaction at the 8min 30sec mark of Ghost Love Score Live at Wacken with her tone and meoldy
Please do The Tale of Jenny and Screech FULL (the one that includes Violets Tale packaged into one video. Another live one take and the acoustics, major minor changes, acting.... it's an amazing story. Tragic but amazing
I love your vocal analysis. Thank you! How to be me Live on s you haven’t done it yet?
The live version of How to be me is beyond belief. Probably the best duet I've ever heard.
chinchilla is amazing in her own right. you would probably really appreciate her performance of fingers live for hungertv. you are spot on about her control.
Such an amazing video unlike anything I’ve ever been exposed to in my life…and this guy from South Africa…he snorts when he laughs I wonder what vocal range that is…
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Would enjoy seeing more Chinchilla reactions, she’s excellent. Fingers Live is the obvious one.
It's refreshing to hear a vocal coach actually acknowledge the content of the lyrics, the subject matter and message. As opposed to the usual systematic hyper-focused picking through every minutia of the technique. You definitely waded through the minutia, but at least for a few moments acknowledged the scent of the roses. Sometimes I wonder if professional music people miss out on being able to just experience music devoid of analysis.
Yeah... someone like me can't simply 'listen'... which doesn't mean we can't be engrossed in stunning music 😊
No more pre-watching.
Have a listen to Chinchilla’s live version of Little Girl Gone
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I'm looking forward to seeing you react to "The Tale of Jenny and Screech (Full)," but with this one it is *essential* that it be the actual first time you're hearing/watching it...
Please check Chinchilla - fingers live❤
And where is Diana Ankudinova?🤔🤔🥰
I cannot wait for you to check out How To Be Me by these same two artists
Hey man...
Don't be skipping out on the 1st reaction. That's what we Ren fans are looking for.
We want to connect with other reacting and feeling the same way we did when we first listened to his music.
There's so much more gold in the Ren rabbit hole.
So record and post the initial react.
I think you are right about the lack of formal training. Musically he has said he started with a guitar and making beats for raps, but he grew up in a small village and there was no one to rap or sing, so he had to do it himself. He did go to university to study music, but he was only there briefly, that was when his health issues got in the way. He learnt guitar from TH-cam, not from tutorials, but by slowing down videos to see what great players were doing.
How to be me is another masterpiece
from these two.
Chinchilla is amazing.
Please also check out chinchilla little girl gone requime remix
'How to be me' live is just as amazing as chalk outlines. Its a song song like this one.
Sawubona! Wonderful reaction. Please check out more of Ren"s work. He IS genius... maybe, even the next Jimmy Hendrix lol. I will not suggest a song, because they are all great.
TH-cam only showed me a very short list of your previous work. I've subscribed, of course. If you have not, please react to Aurora. Between Ren, and Aurora, I begin to have some faith in humanity again. I'd suggest The Seed, or Through the Eyes of a Child.
Chinchilla’s performance of her song Fingers, performed live for HungerTV is an incredible performance of a really gritty song. So worth checking out!
Ren X Chinchilla - How to be me Live Version next LESSS GOOO
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For REN, this was truly his reality. Ren had misdiagnosed Lyme disease for 7 years by conventional doctors who deemed him mentally ill, but when patients are experiencing neurological symptoms, they very often become misdiagnosed. Lyme disease can present itself as many neurological conditions including Acute Transverse Myelitis[3], Ptosis[4], Seizures, and Chronic Fatigue[1] and these symptoms can be often misdiagnosed or deemed psychosomatic. Second is dealing with the symptoms of Lyme neuroborreliosis, these neurological symptoms often leave patients feeling drained and debilitated as they begin losing their quality of life. Over time, patients find themselves unable to do the things they love as they struggle to get ahead of their progressing symptoms.
I love the way Ren sings with passion. Check out Chinchilla's song 'Fingers' live version to get the full scope of her vocal talent!
Rens twitch bio thing simply says, “I make noises” lol you are correct
Best duett best voice👍💯🎶💎🌈
I know everyone wants you to do the FULL Tale of Jenny and Screech (and Violet), and you should and not prewatch it because it will give you spoilers that come across more genuine for the first time; however, these two sing “How to be me," and pitch-wise it’s phenomenal. Also, I find it to be more powerful than almost anything he’s done (except maybe his most recent live version of the song SU1C1DE on the piano. I think after watching you, you’ll like a lot of his catalog except his straight up hip hop songs. But that’s kinda what makes him so great. The catalog is literally for everyone, and you just listen to the stuff you really like.
You’d probably enjoy Chinchilla’s live solo videos. 😊
Have you seen the How to be me live version... I love this too.
Please go for chinchilla on her own whenever you want or can, fingers live for hunger tv, amazing interpretation. Thanks for another great disection of the song.