TikTok'ers be like: Statistically the safest way of flying is turning off all engines mid-flight! Studies have shown engines are less likely to break when turned off! 😱
@@chrisschack9716 hmm, yes, the floor is made out of floor. Edit: is this going to become a thread full of this meme? Because I want this to become a thread full of this meme.
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m imagining most of them either panicking and stepping on top of others to escape or posting to social media instead of following “procedures”.
“We train regularly for what to do in the event of an engine failure” …wait, you’re telling me that a professional in a job that has a potential risk associated with it trains on how to mitigate that risk in case it occurs? Shocking! Next you’ll tell me firefighters practice fighting fires. Seriously, I don’t like flying and I’m absolutely terrified of heights, but acting like pilots are incompetant or clueless about their own job seems really offensive to me. Especially considering how few airplanes actually do crash. Respect people who work hard for you.
And the training works well. A duel engine plane losing one of its engines will probably be fine, as the pilots know how to try to get it to work again or maneuver a landing with only one working engine.
@@bluecrystal3614 Yeah, the safety of airplanes is kinda hard to grasp. 7,624,619 flights, or 20,875 years of daily flights would be the actual amount of time one would have to fly before you are more likely than not to have been in a crash, assuming your 1 in 11,000,000 figure is correct. Even then, if you survive that many flights, the chances of your next flight crashing are still only 1 in 11,000,000, and considering you haven't been in a crash, it is significantly less likely, because it would mean you're more likely to be taking safer planes and trips. It's farore dangerous to take any other mode of transport, including walking.
@@justsomeguy5628indeed, in fact it’s an FAA requirement and the quick reference manuals spell out altitude and speed for the pilots to operate it in the event of an engine failure, imagine that! 😂
* static * "This is your Captain speaking. We were $6 short today so it seems we ran out of fuel during Pilot Nap Time™. But, luckily everyone within 5 rows of a door is going to be just fine."
Recently I saw a TikTok video about why airlines don’t have parachutes on board, and sadly the whole comment section was full of people saying “it’s because the airline wants you to die so you don’t sue them” really upsets me how that TikToker from last episode badly influenced so many people. Hopefully they never encounter any sort of emergency
Even if airlines included parachutes and the plane was designed such that people could use them to evacuate, it's very unlikely that more than a handful of people onboard would be able to use them anyway. How many people know how to put one on in a confided space as found in modern passenger aircraft. Pretty sure that even professionals who've had training and are very experience at doing jumps put it on whilst on the ground.
@@bunnywarren yeah that’s what the actual TikTok video was saying, but everyone in the comments was saying that the TikToker was wrong because the airline wants you to die
There is a joke about the engine thing. A guy who had never flown before was on a 747 and one of the engines failed. The pilot made an announcement that it was still perfectly safe bu they would be landing between 20 and 30 minutes late. A little while later another engine gives out and the pilot announces that it will now be approximately a one and a half hour delay. Then a third engine bites the dust. The pilot reassures the passengers that as they are lightly loaded and have already used a lot of fuel it is still perfectly safe on one engine, but unfortunately the delay will now be 3 hours. The passenger turns to the guy next to him and says "I hope the other engine does not give up or we will be up here all night".
If I'm anything that loses an engine, give me a 74 all day, lose 1, nothing, lose 2 a bit of something, after watching so many crash investigations, the 74 will always get you home, I haven't even seen a 74 crash that was the Aircrafts fault
Fun Fact: the safest way to not die if a plane crashes is to jump out at its maximum altitude. If you flap your hands and legs, it will have the effect of a parachute. Just make sure to aim for the area where the plane is about to crash you you can get the supplies from the plane.
False, that will get you badly hurt. Instead, use an umbrella like in Fortnite, and then build to the crash site, for epic loot and get that #1 victory royale.
@@YGAPlayz but the plane already has wings, so I think everyone has to take the tiniest sip so that everyone has enough. Then they all get wings and can simply jump out of the plane
What I always get a kick out of is that these pilots are somehow hiding all the things from passengers to somehow secretly put them in danger. Do these people never think "The pilots are on the plane. They'll probably want to survive this flight too?"
Exactly! I also question “pilots” with fake credentials in some countries. Why would you fake your piloting education and risk your own life? I can understand that perhaps they want the glamor and recognition, but do they consider they could be dead?
@@trishayamada807 From the BBC website, 25th June 2020: "Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has grounded 150 pilots over claims they may not hold a valid licence. Pakistan's aviation minister told parliament on Wednesday that a large number of commercial pilots hold fake licences or cheated in exams. It comes as an initial report into a PIA crash that killed 97 people last month found the cause to be human error by the pilot and air traffic control. Pakistan has a chequered aviation safety record with a number of crashes. Aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan shared the findings of an initial report into May's crash on Wednesday, but also referred to a wider government probe, which had been launched after a different crash. Following the 2018 crash, it was discovered that the test date on the pilot's licence was a public holiday, suggesting that testing could not have taken place on that day. Mr Khan said investigations had found that more than 260 of the country's 860 active pilots had either fake licences or had cheated in their exams."
Intentionally that's true. That said if you go back and look at every major incident/accident since the 70's it's pilot or mechanical error along with mechanical error not remedied by pilotage. These days the pilots are there in case something goes wrong, at that time they need to know what to do. Problem is some don't and it causes problems like worldwide grounding of the Boeing 737 MAX. The 2 crashes were poorly trained pilots for airlines in countries that don't have the strict training and safety protocols of western countries. Knee jerk reactions cause people to be scared, I've seen passengers refuse to fly when they see MAX on their ticket. Nonetheless, most accidents are liveable so the fear is perpetuated by social media. (When I say don't know what to do I'm talking about airline types referenced in the MAX incidents)
@@nw7630 on a candle the wax is what's burning. Not really the cotton until the wicking effect Stops taking place and the wax level lowers. People literally use cotton to start fires in survival kits
even if that wasn't the case - I wonder if these people know the likelihood of being in a car crash vs. airplane crash? this is kind of like planning what to do in a crash every time you get out of the house.
*"... Things pilots won't tell you"* Bruhhh pilots would love to tell you literally everything about their job for free as long as you're willing to listen
trainee pilots same. Meet another trainee. Suddenly you have a best friend who understands your passions and interests and money worries and dedication and poverty and how many hours, which type oh that's awesome too. Meanwhile others pass by, stare, or ignore.
The fact that you say that the pilots are in the same situation as the passengers, is indeed reassuring. Somehow I never thought of it that way, I don't know why.
@Gregg R Groff by saying 'literally'for no reason you sound like one of the tiktokers. They're only the first to impact if it's a front on collision. If it's a crash landing on a runway etc, usually the nose is lifted and the back is the first down.
The sad thing is that more people than we think is doing just that. I mean, just look at them, a big part of them abandoned their studies to do stupid videos, how can anybody take them seriously is beyond me... But many people actually do! 🤦
And when you try to help them by pointing them to good reading material they will say to you "copy paste low effort bs reeeeeee!!" 🤦. Yeah it's so low effort they can just search for it themselves.
@@Zyscheriah I once linked someone over 10 peer-reviewed journals in MLA citation format to support my facts, and he responded "Those are just books". I kid you not. X'D
13:05 Some airlines tell passengers to remove their shoes, because women's shoes could puncture the slides or women sliding down could collide with people in front and hurt them.
@@erlouwer Green screen effects are still visual effects. These are not green screen effects, yes. But the regular/actual green screen effect IS an effect. A visual effect (VFX) if you will.
@@erlouwer My bad then. I thought your comment was referring to using the word “effect” with green screen in general. Feel free to forget what I said lol
You got to give it to the first dude, the more engines you have the more risk you have of an engine failure 😂 If you have 2000 engines you'd be more likely to have an engine go down compared to someone with just 1. Genius! Clearly the safest course of action would be a 0 engine plane. Can't break if you don't got one!
They are right about one thing though: they did actually tell you 5 things that a pilot would never tell. A pilot would indeed never tell you those incorrect bs things.
Kelsey is a man with 1000 faces and I love every one of them! Forget Facebook, Instagram and Twitter...just give me Kelsey. He is amazing. Sure would love to fly on his plane sometime. If there is a Mrs. Kelsey, it's all good hon. In a few months I will be celebrating my 80th birthday and do not fly anymore. You have a good man there.
@@CravingBeer If you have a plane hit a mountain, I can guarantee it won't matter which end of it you were at! The back of the plane is technically safer, however that's due to crashes on takeoff/landing, not the major types of crashes you're thinking of. Personally, my perfect seat is a window seat as I like leaning against the wall rather than being bumped by everyone walking by, and as close to the front as possible so I don't have to wait as long to exit, and have fewer people ahead of me at customs. Though I'll happily take a row further back if it looks like I can manage a couple empty seats beside me. (I used to aim for an exit row for the leg room, but airlines got wise to that and now charge extra for it, and I'm too cheap for that! I'll sometimes still manage a bulkhead row without extra charge though...)
Oh if only you’d had a channel in 2016. My late father loved aircrafts and I can tell he’d love your channel. Learning about anything related to aviation makes me feel closer to him so thank you
The part of getting ejected from the plane in the middle of the ocean in December because of a malfunction really made me laugh 😂 Of course as the pilot rightly says, a malfunction of such a mechanism would be far more probable than a plane crash itself .
Even if the mechanism was perfect, most crashes happen during landing, takeoff or are instant destruction (like flying into terrain or mid air collision). In order for that ejection system to work you need to have some weird situation when you're cruising high but know the plane won't make it. So wee are talking about mechanical issues with avionics, hydraulics or all engines failure. Which means that it's better to invest same amount of resources into making those systems more reliable. Military ejection seats would be better but thay are ridiculously expensive, require constant maintenance and would kill most passengers with 9-12 g blast. You have to be perfectly healthy and fit to use them.
Actually, when the manufacturer does the evacuation test, they typically just grab a bunch of employees from the shop floor to serve as the passengers. They don’t have any particular training, since that may actually not be allowed. We had a case where we failed an evacuation test, because the first person couldn’t open the door. We found out it was an internal design issue and had to make changes and redo the test.
I was that employee grabbed from the shop floor once, but not for evacuatuon. Just to play passanger for a flight attendent training. I have seen flight attemdents play passangers forceach other force acuatuon training.
Maybe they have no training but it's still different than real evacuation. This is simulation only - these "passenger" knows they will live after. On the other hand real evacuation with flames, smoke, broken parts inside, some dead passangers will have significant affect the 90 seconds limit.
I really never knew people take their shoes and socks off during a flight. I could see an international flight. I have only done flights within the USA so it never occurred to me.
4 engine jets loosing an engine. 747 recently had a single engine failure after take off. It was so funny listening to the ATC.. Pilot requested a return to airport, Controller asked whats wrong, pilot said nothing, we just lost an engine, so i'd like to bring it back. ATC "so you're declaring an emergancy?" "Nope, just looking for a return." ATC "are you landing heavy?" "Nope, just looking for a return. Everything's fine." "do you need fire?" "Nope, not needed there's no emergency." ATC couldn't get it through his head that the 747 had no emergency after an engine failure.. Gives him the return vectors and landing clearance... says fire is standing by. "Thanks, but not needed." Plane landed, fire trucks were there trying to figure out what was going on... he just didn't want to start a transatlantic with 3 engines. If it was domestic he'd have just carried on.
@@ryanthunderhammer9970 im proud of you... Taking one step at a time... By the end of the month tiktok idiocy will be out of your system proud of ya bud 🤗
Geni: there are 3 rules, no wishing for death, no falling in love, no bring back dead people. me: I wish TikTok had a dislike button Geni : I will do that for free
This tik toks is the reason im scared to fly, but when a real pilot talks about this tik toks and comfirm whats Real or not, makes me feel safer, thank you.
In 2010 (random date chosen) there where 162 accidents and 1,130 deaths which may seem high, but considering there where 2.6 billion flights which equates to 0.000006% chance of an accident occuring. You have a higher chance of being in an accident driving to the aiport than being in one on a plane.
I remember a joke I heard about the advancements in aircraft engineering. "In the future planes will have a pilot and a dog. The pilot to turn on the autopilot and the dog to make sure the pilot doesn't touch anything."
When I listen to videos like this I realise my lifelong terror of flying was mainly due to misinformation/ignorance (and Hollywood!) I might even get back on a plane some day.
@@subarutime5089 Watch a series about deadly crashes because they die?... Yes of course 'air disasters' won't show the crashes and emergencies that ended well, where the pilots saved the plane and those on it... Be more like 'air normalities' where they just show the plane flying along safely, sounds exciting... >.< That's like saying watch die hard, people die there, or watch 'Greatest forest fires' those forests really burn...
I lost it laughing when I heard "non-flammable clothing like cotton or denim". Fun fact: denim is usually also cotton and all cellulose-based fabrics have a bad habit of spontaneously combusting in high heat.
Strictly speaking cotton is flammable. However, when I was working on utility poles we were specifically instructed to wear cotton clothes. The reason is that in the event of contact with live conductors, cotton burns but it doesn't melt. When it comes right down to it you're going to be better off if your cotton shirt burns than if your polyester shirt melts into your flesh.
@@they-call-me-mister-trash847 Oh, true, I forgot the merits of something frying to ash vs. melting and sticking. I was working off of my fashion background, where they taught us most children's pajamas are made of polyester due to cotton's possibility of spontaneous combustion in the event of a house fire.
KingCrab69 Aight bro, I just said that because some people are annoying with the /s thing, even sending death threats to people who don't use it, sorry
Thank you for making this channel. My father was an USAF mechanic and would get frustrated with people thinking stuff like that if a single engine went down that the plane was doomed. I learned long ago that many planes can fly on crutches.
He's got a verified account on tiktok. You'd think he'd have a better mic by now, and not the one that comes with the headphones when you buy your cellphone
@@tamiwu0346 the internet is this bad, tiktok is just the new thing to look at and pretend this is all new. You have been able to find this same stuff on youtube for a decade now. Hell, most people that believe in that adrenochrome stuff can have that belief traced back to one youtube video, either directly or being convinced by something using that video as a source. Some people will believe anything as long as you play into their emotions enough or just sound like you know what you're talking about.
When choosing seats I like to sit at emergency exits - not because I want to be out fast, but because the distance to the seat in front usually is larger. With long legs and knees bumping into the seat in front of my that's a lot of additional comfort.
The one about the socks and hairy feet had me doubled-over laughing! My wife routinely takes her, (fashionable, but tight-fitting), shoes off during a flight, (after climb-out and puts them back on when descending), but she leaves her socks on and brings slippers. One of the things I collect are "air-crash" videos. Not because I'm a warpo masochist, but because I like the engineering overview of *_why_* the crash happened and *_what was done to mitigate the risk for the future_* And a FYI: Airlines doing stupid things to "control costs" or otherwise endanger people tend to get their operating certificate revoked - and damn fast too. Ref: The Yaroslavl Lokomotiv hockey team's crash and what happened to Red Wings airline in Russia when they got stupid. Not only did they get their certificates revoked by the Russian "FAA", but people high up in the food chain there went to prison too. (And Russian prisons aren't the luxury beachfront resorts they've been made out to be 😉.) Chalks Ocean Airways is another good example in the U.S. P.S. Driving is more dangerous than flying.
The "within 5 rows of an exit" thing came from ONE study at Cranfield in about 1988 or 89, under VERY specific circumstances (I was part of the study, one of the, in this trial, untrained evacuees, simulating more realistic evacuation than the certification tests). When the main doors are blocked, leaving only overwing exits, and in this trial those were the old, really small ones (not on anything built since the mid 90's), only a few rows made it se tiny exits before they got clogged with people clammering to get out; the trial had to be stopped to avoid anyone getting injured (the purpose of the trial was to stop deaths and injuries, not to risk us participants). Unlike certification tests, where everyone exits in an orderly manner, we were incentivised to get out - the first half out got an extra payment, which for students was worth a little pushing and shoving. It wasnt totally realistic (no hand luggage, all of us were relatively fit and young with no old grannies) but it proved that real evacuations are very different, especially when there is an incentive (similar to an engine fire). In the rest of the tests, 5 rows?, bullsh!t!
There’s a video on TH-cam of them showing this experiment! Everyone rushing and shoving to get out… but with massive smiles on their faces. 😂 I can’t imagine they’d be smiling that much in an emergency. I’d really like to think everyone could keep calm in a real emergency and not cause deaths by panicking and blocking exits etc but no one really knows how they’ll react in those moments until it happens and you really feel that “oh fk I’m really fighting for my life here”
This was the trial where instead of please exist the plane as quickly as possible they said they would pay extra to the first few off the plane ... then it got realistic ...
@@davidioanhedges Yep, £10 to attend, £5 for the first half of in each of three evacuations. £25 for a few hours work on a Saturday morning was worth it.
I believe this was repeated (don’t know the exact circumstances or rules there) in a documentary where they even crashed an old aircraft in the desert somewhere.I saw it and thought it made sense that in case you have to evacuate quickly, being closer to an exit was better. In the experiment, they didn’t coach anyone more than usual but also didn’t try to make it harder. Many at the door didn’t push the discarded door out of the plane (the most common ‘error’ and therefore it was in the way of the exit). That meant many could’ve exited much earlier... Logical to want to be closer to the exit too. 🤷🏻♀️
For some reason I lost it and still can’t stop laughing when you said that the pilots are still stuck on that ridiculous plane to die after they’ve the ejected passengers to “parachute” to the safety. Something about the upbeat five minute crafts music and energy of that tik tok clip and just imagining the pilots yeeting everyone off to now be not cared about and left to die with that music just made me lose it I can’t even explain why it was so funny to me and the way you said it hahaha.
9:30 I remember watching something, somewhere, where they were trying to replicate getting people off in a panic and they couldn't get people to behave irrationally. They ended up paying a huge reward for the first X number of people out of the plane and suddenly it was chaos.
I think it was for the British Airways disaster. They were trying to simulate the panic on the plane and offered a sum of money for the first off the plane. The survivors of the crash saw the footage and went “yeah, that’s what it was like.”
This reminds me of an old expression: "You can't fix stupid!" Kelsey, thank you for your wisdom, experience, courage, patience, sense of humor and willingness to educate us! 👍✈️
Cotton isn’t “non-flammable” in fact it’s extremely flammable, the reason some people who work with electricity wear it is because when it catches fire it burns up and disintegrates extremely fast.
As a fire enthusiast, I think its appeal around some jobs is less about how fast it burns and more about how it doesn't leave molten plastic on your skin (just charred bits that suck at conducting heat into your skin). At least that's why I would rather wear it around fire or hot things, burns more like a resin than a thermoplastic. Also seems like it's more prone to charring and repelling things like beads of molten metal. Thermoplastic fibers tend to catch things like that and hold them or rapidly melt and retract away from the hot thing and let it hit your skin.
@@DrPersonman Yes this. A girl at elementary school got burned badly when she had been wearing a nylon dress during the Christmas dinner at elementary school (her elbow had been above a small candle). Most of the burning happened because of the plastic melting and causing fumes to ignite much quicker, setting her dress on fire, which in itself woulld be a disaster with cotton or nylon, but now the molten plastic stayed on her skin and got etched into it. I can recall the first day of school after Christmas holidays where we were told about what happened (it was a different location of the same school at which it happened) and how it would influence anything involving candles and clothing from that moment on. Candles would not be on tables anymore, and every parent was instructed to dress their child for those kind of celebrations in cotton-only clothing. Had the same thing happen to me once with a cotton shirt, the moment I had this "Gee that's hot!" feeling in my elbow and pulled away my arm the shirt self extinguished (ok, it might have been impregnated with a flame-retardant, but still). It had a charred edge around the hole the flame had burnt into it, but that was it.
I can't get enough of these videos Kelsey, the scary part though is the majority of followers of Tik Tok "Experts' truly believe this and could make it dangerous for those of us with common sense on flights and in the event of an emergency.
@@saf5502 well, that's often what's happened when you see "pilot err-er" cited as the cause of a crash - one too many headbutts at the wrong damn time.
What ticks me off is that they don’t know anything about anything so they pick a trend and make up stuff. And all of the aviation enthusiasts, and pilots and crew have to clean up their messes. But Kelsey, you make it SO much more understandable!
Too be honest. Half of those tiktoks are dangerous, simply dangerous, since we have a lot of people that like to gulp info without checking it... And will always do that because tiktok told them... Idiotic and dangerous. People making those videos should have some sort of awakening via ticket or few days in prison. You know, endangering the public or something like that
@@usa5439 False positives are a fixed percentage of however many tests you perform, what that percentage is depends on the test process itself and not on the number of tests performed. Less testing, means fewer positives overall, including fewer false positives, AND fewer negatives too (the number that is never shown and because of that the moronic idea of less testing seems attractive to all the blunt crayons in the box).
@@KimonFrousios The TOTAL of false positives would still go up the more tests you do, regardless if it's 1% or 99% of false positives. So percentage is irrelevant.
That ridiculous ejection idea: can you imagine how difficult it would be to design a pressure vessel capable of mating to the cockpit and utilize the PACKs? I already have to deal with enough ECS faults and bleed leaks as it is. Not to mention the number of inspections, operational tests, and general maintenance such a system would require. I almost want to cry just thinking about it.
Not only that, but for what i know there`s signiffically more probability of serious accidents on land or take off. And this system can`t help in these scenarios. And if there is some malfunction with this system in these scenarios , i think it will may increase risks for passengers.
Cotton And denim are both definitely flammable, but the reason you wear them is because when they do burn, they just burn, they don't melt like synthetic materials, they aren't fire proof or fire resistant in any way shape or form.
I can't stand these Tik Tokers standing in front of a cruddy green screen that's shaking all over the place (turbulence maybe) and flapping their arms around whilst using a bloody earbud as a mic.
actually as aerospace engineer it is true that it's easier to design a safer twin jet aircraft than a 4 engine aircraft. As the main design parameters drive wings to more swept back wings, which means you have either a larger moment acting on the engine (further back from the root of the wing, giving a weird moment, or a further forward extending pylong creating a moment around the pylon). Modern aircraft typically have hence only two engines especially since they are typically smaller moving away from a hub-spoke system.
13 years as an engineer in the aviation industry. You hit all the major high points (the biggest ones we'd use to dissuade management if they wanted an ejecting fuselage). Failure risk, cost, reduced performance and compared to current safety rates show it's just not feasible. No need to dive deeper (the deeper issues would vary depending on the solution design). Plus, we'd also be saying "not only that, but good luck finding a pilot willing to fly the damn thing." We engineers know who our end users are, and those of us who've been around long enough know "cynicism is just being bluntly realistic."
Besides killing the pilots, the two wings it's the worst, that thing could fall over populated areas and do some nasty damage. Even with little fuel (with all the extra weight would be more fuel per flight so there's that). And how guide the fuselage to a safe place if it's over a city, or rocky terrain. But the major factor in our greedy world would be less passenger's, more fuel, more cost, way less lucrative because of the weight and all other things add to the plane.
@@shottyman6013 fuselage ejecting at high altitude with that high wind will put that fuselage into a spin and good luck releasing parachute while spinning and even with perfect wind condition landing with a parachute over random ground or sea will put greater danger and possibly create bigger disaster. Parachute don’t land on the ground softly to begin with
It's a risk/cost analysis. I bet many of these TikTokkers drive cars. Even at low speeds it is far more dangerous than a commercial flight. The most dangerous part of flaying from London to New York is getting to and from the airport. That's why I never drive there. I take a taxi... (TikTok!)
Regarding the emergency exit certification: A few years ago I visited Airbus and during the tour our guide told us that they need to be able to evacuate the plane with the highest density configuration, using half the emergency exits in 90 seconds. Oh yeah, almost forgot. He also said that these test are done with untrained people which they pick from the street and need to include pregnant people, disabled persons, etc.
They started testing it more earnestly after a bunch of people died in a fire on the runway because they couldn't get out in the 90 seconds that they supposedly should have been able to. Psychologist came up with the idea of offering a cash reward to the first people off to replicate the madness of everyone trying to get off at once and showed the problem points in the plane's interior design.
@@wordforger if you're referring to the flight I think you are (air canada 797), better consideration towards evacuability was key in that case but a major factor was also the fact the plane was filled with smoke making it impossible to see. that said, that incident did show you need to design around that possibility as well.
Well, most of these comments are a few years old, but recently, an airline hit another small plane that had strayed onto the runway in front of the airliner that was taking off. Whilst sadly, the people in the small plane died, the crew of the airliner somehow managed to get everyone off safely within 90 seconds despite the fact that half the exits were blocked by a massive fire. How they achieved that is beyond comprehension. Image the confusion amongst the passengers and the fact that many would attempt to get their bags etc, thereby blocking the aisles. 90 seconds! Incredible!
TikTokers: the safest way to fly is to overspeed the aircraft and turn off everything you see and if you see the big red 2 or 4 buttons open them and push them as it totally wont turn off the engines and make them useless!
As an engineer, building that parachute thing basically doubles the cost of a flight because of the extra weight, not to mention even more things that need to work increasing inspection time and money
I, aerospace engineer, get challenged about: "Well, if the entire fuselage parachute system is impractical, why not individual ejection seats?" I then have them imagine granny, with her fragile bones, getting hit by ejection, windblast, and parachute landing forces. That usually puts an end to the individual ejection seat ideas. I then explain how we are mitigating certain potential issues to significantly reduce the probability of fatalities in aviation incidents. I usually use the potential of HUDs, LAAS GPS, WAAS GPS, and synthetic vision to reduce the probability of Controlled Flight Into Terrain during approach and landing.
Oh really? I’m not an engineer or a pilot but when the idea of parachutes was introduced to my mind in the comments section of another aviation video recommending it as an idea. But after thinking about it for a few minutes I realised it probably wouldn’t be a good idea. Admittedly this was more about an individual passenger grabbing a parachute pack and bailing out of a passenger plane experiencing serious trouble but likely many of the same problems would likely apply. After mulling over the concept for a moment I came up with similar problems. Passenger planes move fast. Like, really fast. I don’t know the specific numbers but even if the pilots were flirting with the absolute slowest the plane could fly without the engines stalling that’s still hundreds of miles an hour. I want to say over 200 but I really don’t know if I’m accurately remembering some random thing I might have picked up from an aviation video so don’t quote me on that. Either way I have severe doubts about whether the human body is even capable of jumping or falling out of something like a 747 or one of it’s two engine cousins, avoid the engines if you’re jumping out of the front exits, avoid clipping the hull or side fins at the tail, without taking severe damage or injuries from the forces involved in such a thing. And that’s before I thought about the next problem which is that most people aren’t trained to jump out of aircrafts and use parachutes safely. And that’s about the point where my mind kind of sprung back to the conditions passenger planes tend to fly at. Where the air is so thin we can’t breathe it and so cold we’d be unlikely to survive that. Admittedly I stopped thinking about it because that’s the point where I decided that the whole thing was ludicrous. But as a bonus round, I remember a documentary team that was allowed to follow a bunch of Air Force cadets as they went through their basic training and one episode covered their jump out of a plane and parachute down training. I think it must have been low altitude version because they weren’t nearly as high as sky divers are. Plus there were instructors on the ground able to bellow at each cadet as he or she went down. And even though they’d had a lot of training and practice beforehand, out of the about twenty or so that jumped, two ballsed it up. One got twisted in the paracords and only avoided injury out of a combination of luck and emergency training. The second seemed to freeze up and tensed instead of loosening up to disperse the landing impact and broke a leg. Admittedly though the fuselage ejection parachute system idea legitimately never even occurred to me as a concept before watching this video and I had a split second where I mentally protested the sudden changes in weight and balance before Kelsey was pointing out those exact things. Honestly the whole thing can be summed up by another thought I had while deciding parachutes on passenger planes was a stupid idea. “Really, given how long commercial flying has existed, how many times things have gone wrong and hundreds of people have died, these giant flying metal behemoths have been designed by the best minds of humanity and the safety rules proverbially written in blood. If such an idea worked, people smarter than me would have already thought of it and made it work.”
Could you imagine how long that ejection sequence would take? And also, there’s the whole ordinance issue. All passengers would have to get a “seat check out” qualification. LOL Imagine how many kids would be pulling the ejection handles. It’s a wonder that some people remember to breathe.
"getting challenged" as an engineer is sometimes great and sometimes you just hesitate between rolling on the floor laughing or crying.😂 As an engineer in electronics, I've had buyers ask me "why not use this heatsink? It says it works great" Me, watching at said heatsink, which is plastic, when I need something with high electrical conductivity because it is a part of the electrical circuit: "You know, when I said 4 years ago it couldn't work with that, I really meant it 💁♀"
Haha, yes as soon as you explain to them they'll be accelerating from 0-100mph in circa 0.2 seconds they soon change their minds. After a pilot ejects (he would have been exposed to forces in the region of 15g) they are grounded for months whilst they undergo physio for their compressed spines.
"There are no ejection seats or parachutes" TikTokers: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN! Ejection seats and parachutes! Are we gonna talk about how "non flammable material like cotton" when rephrased to "cotton flammability" and put into Google comes up as "extremely flammable"? xD
Cotton is flammable, but it's safe than polyester which would basically turn into napalm on your skin. In my welding class, the first think we were told was to NEVER wear polyester, always wear denim Jean's and a cotton long sleeve because the sparks will almost instantly catch polyester on fire
There no parachutes because when the plane crashes if you are in brace positions you'll be fine and if there were parachutes you are actually more likely to die of cute failure or getting separated from everyone in a tree or something.
@@indicaking Exactly what I was taught too. Imagine being coated in something about as sticky as pancake syrup, maybe twice as hot as boiling water, and on fire. Cotton and ash are fluffy, not as good at transferring heat into skin as a hot liquid. Although, I suppose if you have the misfortune of being soaked in burning jet fuel...well if you survive, at least they won't be ripping glued on plastic out of the burns.
Most plane accidents happen during takeoff or landing. Those are the events when a parachute is useless. When at cruise altitudes, parachutes are a possibility, but with those speeds parachutes would just rip and tear right off, becoming useless. And it would take 27 football field sized parachutes to carry a 747, so there would even be space for passengers or cargo.
That second one uses bad understanding of math to scare people. They say "43% to 55%" of pilots, then "33% of those" which means in total it's about 14.2% of pilots who have apparently woken up to find their copilot asleep. Ok, so he's still probably full of crap.
yeah, 14.2 percent of those 33 percent of those hand selected pilots from a union survey after a massive increase in work time. He left the most relevant info out, thankfully the pilot corrected it.
The spread between values really gets me in this case. That is not how personally reported data is usually presented. I mean deviation... on discrete binary answers? Its weird... I mean, just why? If there was a survey, or multiple surveys, you get A WHOLE NUMBER of answers. And you can make a weighed average out of all those results. Like... 40 out of a 100... then 300 out of a 1000... and 100 out of a 200... so you get 0.4 at 1/13 weight, 0.3 at 10/13 weight and 0.5 at 2/13 weight... and you, again, get a concrete percentage. How they got a +-6% in that process is beyond me :D EDIT: I think you can determine how statistically relevant your full sample is and then transform the "level of significance" to concrete numbers as a deviation. But if the deviation was THIS large, I think that any statistical table would dismiss it altogether as simply statistically insignificant. So I doubt that is it.
To his credit, most planes could fly without a pilot and typically unless they feel the need to take over (bad weather) or take off/landing the plane mostly does fly by itself these days.
having a wet cloth or smoke hood in case of fire is almost on the level of bringing a parachute in case the planes wall opens up next to you, and you get sucked out
😆 I have a saying for this. It's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. The looks as I slide it through the xray machine to carry on...
I worked for a commercial airline for 40 years. The fuel liad is caculated on distance,passemger load, cargo, weather...by Dispatch. I have witnessed a pilot requesting more fuel. The last point of the passenger compartment ejecting would totally change the CG of the plane. I was instructed to make 737s tail heavy, within central load planning parameters to keep the nose up, therefore using less fuel. IDK if this is true, but better minds than mine decided.
That parachute thing has been around forever. I can't remember the amount of times I've told people to think about what would happen if it ejects accidently or partially.
Also included in the FAA 90 second rule: this evacuation has to be demonstrated with half of possible exits (randomly selected and unknown in advance to the evacuees) not usable.
I so enjoy everything about your channel. Your expertise, the information you share, the misinformation you tackle head-on and your humor. Thank you for your time and talent.
I absolutely love the absurdity of the separating plane thing. “How can we save the passengers of an airplane in an emergency. How about let’s just get rid of all the lift and controls of the plane, yah that should work.”
I love your god tier poker face while you’re watching these Tik Toks. I can’t tell if your deepened frown and head nodding is confirmation that what’s being said is true, or if you’re thinking “oh okay so THIS is the kind of stupid we’re dealing with”.
You can tell by Bobby's body language, he's trying to make his video seem like it's a crucial event, or even an emergency. He doesn't sit still, but bounces around. He doesn't keep his hands consistent, either, going from closed to open to by his side to pointing across him, and then the spread finger effect for "seriousness." On the plus side, I've been watching your videos for about seven months now and finally clicked that *Subscribe* button. Might as well since I realized I've watched every video since then and even some of the older ones. :)
@@BK-uy9nj Bobby presents like a typical social media douche, exaggerated and melodramatic. And incredibly ignorant and foolish. Another genius social media self-appointed wise guy.
@Alfie Wolfie I wouldn't doubt he acts like that all the time on his videos. I'm just stating he's acting or over-acting with his body movement to try to create the "seriousness" of his supposed 'secrets.' My kid follows some TH-camrs for a game he likes and they're very much overly-dramatic. I can always tell when he's listening to their older videos, because they're calmer and more natural, but as they became more popular, they started screaming and "OMG!" and the like so much more.
I just can't imagine walking through the plane in stocking feet, that's just too much! Also I would take the advice of a pilot who knows the regulations, over another person who isn't a trained pilot. Thanks Kelsey, once again you bring a smile to my face! I'm glad you keep addressing these situations on you-tube. People shouldn't be afraid to fly.
The "multi engine is less safe than single" is technically true on Fighter jets though. But that tends to come down to two factors: Increased risk of maintenance mistakes by having twice as much engine labor High risk of cascading failure because the engines are next to each other, rather than spaced out like on an airliner, bomber, or transport plane.
I am at the part where you were talking about evacuating the plane in 90 seconds. I can say I along with quite a few others were messaged and asked if we wanted to participate in that test. The "training" you get is not that much really. The big thing is that makes a difference is that you know you need to leave quickly. This gives you time to count the seats, mentally think, and react sooner, along with actually memorizing how to remove emergency doors. Beyond that, not much real training, we did the entire thing in under 30 minutes and this was more or less random people. I was seated next to a machinist and some Sr manager that did something with IT. So, yeah, less trained than you think. 37 got its air cert back though, and this was one of the required tests.
I was in a training session of a typerating before as a visitor and they trained that day engine failure safety landings…so I can support 74 Gear‘s statements totally.
More people need to see this. I really don’t understand how people can make these videos without any criteria. Like some random on internet saying tie a dead chicken around your dog’s neck. Or some housewife saying you need to eat 600 calories to lose weight and “tone up”
They're probably bored or something... But what I want to know who are the people who watch tiktok videos and believe what they are saying? There is some kind of lack of critical thinking or scepticism in people these days.
The ONLY thing that has ever concerned me about flying is being charged for having luggage 1kg overweight, yet can carry as much junk as I like that I bought from the duty free shops 😂
@@emlyndewar I don't know if that would be that fair, if it would mean that people at heavier weights would get to carry even less baggage. Which would mean any body builder, muscular person in general, even slightly overweight people, very tall people etc. all would get to carry less then someone short and light like me. I do think weight could be taken into account in some way, but not if it's gonna influence the amount of luggage someone can carry.
@@yulana990 I think it could be used in an intelligent way. Absolutely don’t think tall/muscular people should be penalized. Just felt ridiculous the time I’d foolishly went 500g over and had some hassle, whilst some people behind me weighed infinitely more than I do.
@@emlyndewar there are calculations for pax weight, different airlines different weight, but mine 75kgs domestic flight, 85kgs international flight. There are margin for weights.
Kelsey would make a perfect friend! His personality would keep you laughing your rear off at the same time calmly reassuring you that every thing will be ok.
I’m not good at reading faces, but usually Kelsey looks happy or a bit concerned in his other series, even if he’s not smiling. In the Tiktok roast series, he looks as if he’s frustrated or irritated, and I agree with that. Tiktokers are some of the worst disinformation spreaders possible.
I feel like the crew on passenger planes will need to start telling passengers to not listen to crazy tiktokers when they explain "in case if emergency" protocol...😄😄
Or when one shows themselves, perhaps when they unpack their smoke hood, 'statistically the safest way to fly is not be on the plane' then open the door for them to leave. Or 'secret 'escape pods' for tiktok believers are hidden in the luggage compartment', and have boards in one of the 'crates' (I've forgotten the title of the specially designed containers for aircraft fuselages) to which all these people are duct-taped 'for safety', in the fetal position so that they can 'kiss their *** goodbye' (to quote one of the penguins of Madagascar). :)
This video reminds me of a date I had, where after I told her my dad was a pilot, she insisted that "pilots don't really fly the plane, the autopilot does." There was no second date.
@@dbclass4075 In a sense, yes. If ATC issues a routine (non emergency) instruction to change course or change altitude and the autopilot is "on" the pilot flying is probably not going to turn off the autopilot and change course/altitude using the yoke. Instead the pilot will twiddle the knobs on the autopilot as per ATC request and the AP will execute standard rate turns or set climb/descent rates to comply with the ATC requests.
@@Vincent_Sullivan But as you described, it still requires pilot's input. Even they are just knobs and buttons, it is not something we could realistically expect a panicking passenger to interact properly.
@@dbclass4075 This is exactly why I said "In a SENSE, yes." Yes, pilot interaction is required to interpret the ATC request and input it to the autopilot, but during this sort of situation the flight control surfaces are controlled at all times by the autopilot and only by the autopilot and "controlling the flight control surfaces" is what "flies the plane". During most commercial flights the human pilot does not directly control the flight control surfaces for most of the flight - takeoff and landing being good examples of when they do actually manually control the flight control surfaces. I wonder how long it will be before the AP manufacturers and the data link manufacturers figure out a way to send course and altitude instructions directly from ATC to the AP. This would eliminate the risk of pilots misunderstanding ATC instructions or entering them incorrectly into the AP, but it would also remove the "sanity check" that pilots should apply to ATC instructions. Not sure where your comment about panicking passengers adjusting the AP comes from. Nowhere in this comment thread are passengers mentioned. I think we are all assuming the passengers are in the back and only pilots are in the cockpit.
this is why i love aviation cause i love the ride on take off and landing and even if something go wrong i have 100% confidence in pilots to know what they are doing.
TikTok'ers be like: Statistically the safest way of flying is turning off all engines mid-flight! Studies have shown engines are less likely to break when turned off! 😱
haha yeah they use words like “statistically” and “studies” without citing anything too lol
Also, the 777 has trouble staying up when out of fuel!
@@chrisschack9716 People die when they’re killed.
@@chrisschack9716 Never change communist news network, never change. Oh wait...
@@chrisschack9716 hmm, yes, the floor is made out of floor.
Edit: is this going to become a thread full of this meme? Because I want this to become a thread full of this meme.
“If idiots could fly, TikTok would be an airport”
Just thought that this joke was appropriate.
It's perfection...
@@RosesTeaAndASD yeah lmao
Nicee
It would literally be a multi billionaire air company
@@NTIAM multi trillion*
The funny thing is the TikTokers who tell us these solutions will probably be the least likely to use them
True
@@ibbi32 No lol.
Yeah
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m imagining most of them either panicking and stepping on top of others to escape or posting to social media instead of following “procedures”.
I'd like to put them all on Kelsey's 74 and let him put it to the test. Only rule: you MUST fly below recommended fuel levels 😂
“We train regularly for what to do in the event of an engine failure”
…wait, you’re telling me that a professional in a job that has a potential risk associated with it trains on how to mitigate that risk in case it occurs? Shocking! Next you’ll tell me firefighters practice fighting fires.
Seriously, I don’t like flying and I’m absolutely terrified of heights, but acting like pilots are incompetant or clueless about their own job seems really offensive to me. Especially considering how few airplanes actually do crash. Respect people who work hard for you.
And the training works well. A duel engine plane losing one of its engines will probably be fine, as the pilots know how to try to get it to work again or maneuver a landing with only one working engine.
@@bluecrystal3614 Yeah, the safety of airplanes is kinda hard to grasp. 7,624,619 flights, or 20,875 years of daily flights would be the actual amount of time one would have to fly before you are more likely than not to have been in a crash, assuming your 1 in 11,000,000 figure is correct. Even then, if you survive that many flights, the chances of your next flight crashing are still only 1 in 11,000,000, and considering you haven't been in a crash, it is significantly less likely, because it would mean you're more likely to be taking safer planes and trips. It's farore dangerous to take any other mode of transport, including walking.
@@justsomeguy5628indeed, in fact it’s an FAA requirement and the quick reference manuals spell out altitude and speed for the pilots to operate it in the event of an engine failure, imagine that! 😂
* static *
"This is your Captain speaking. We were $6 short today so it seems we ran out of fuel during Pilot Nap Time™. But, luckily everyone within 5 rows of a door is going to be just fine."
**silently press eject button
**
Nice
That is fantastic
"Pilot Nap Time™" 😂
Only if you have a smoke hood and your shoes. lol
Recently I saw a TikTok video about why airlines don’t have parachutes on board, and sadly the whole comment section was full of people saying “it’s because the airline wants you to die so you don’t sue them” really upsets me how that TikToker from last episode badly influenced so many people. Hopefully they never encounter any sort of emergency
Wow 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😂
Even if airlines included parachutes and the plane was designed such that people could use them to evacuate, it's very unlikely that more than a handful of people onboard would be able to use them anyway. How many people know how to put one on in a confided space as found in modern passenger aircraft. Pretty sure that even professionals who've had training and are very experience at doing jumps put it on whilst on the ground.
@@bunnywarren yeah that’s what the actual TikTok video was saying, but everyone in the comments was saying that the TikToker was wrong because the airline wants you to die
Does this also mean the airlines hire assassins to kill all the next of kin of the people who died in the crash so they don't sue as well? (Facepalm)
disappointed that you have a TikTok account
There is a joke about the engine thing. A guy who had never flown before was on a 747 and one of the engines failed. The pilot made an announcement that it was still perfectly safe bu they would be landing between 20 and 30 minutes late. A little while later another engine gives out and the pilot announces that it will now be approximately a one and a half hour delay. Then a third engine bites the dust. The pilot reassures the passengers that as they are lightly loaded and have already used a lot of fuel it is still perfectly safe on one engine, but unfortunately the delay will now be 3 hours. The passenger turns to the guy next to him and says "I hope the other engine does not give up or we will be up here all night".
lol
lol
That’s good
If I'm anything that loses an engine, give me a 74 all day, lose 1, nothing, lose 2 a bit of something, after watching so many crash investigations, the 74 will always get you home, I haven't even seen a 74 crash that was the Aircrafts fault
My dad use to tell people when the police helicopter was hovering overhead looking at the seen below it had broken down
Fun Fact: the safest way to not die if a plane crashes is to jump out at its maximum altitude. If you flap your hands and legs, it will have the effect of a parachute. Just make sure to aim for the area where the plane is about to crash you you can get the supplies from the plane.
False, that will get you badly hurt. Instead, use an umbrella like in Fortnite, and then build to the crash site, for epic loot and get that #1 victory royale.
I hope this is a joke.
@@andrewpinedo1883it's a joke
No, just take the powers of the plane as it chrashes and build a jet pack to fly down
Mary Poppins style!
Fun fact: in the case of both engines failing, the plane can continue flying if all the passengers flap their arms like a bird
.. LOL
tiktoks be like
TikTok idiots be like
just pour redbull on the floor.
@@YGAPlayz but the plane already has wings, so I think everyone has to take the tiniest sip so that everyone has enough. Then they all get wings and can simply jump out of the plane
TikToker: "Do not buckle your seat belt while flying. That way, if you're knocked unconscious, you'll still be able to get out."
You'll be able to get out all right, get out the window in event of pressure failure when a window breaks
Yes of course! It's not like having a seatbelt on saved the lives of 90 people on a flight in Hawaï. Of course don't wear your seatbelt on!
Sometimes the wooooosh is so big, I’m expecting a big BOOM! a few seconds afterwards!
But only if you sleep walk.
Nobody likes that tiktoker😀
What I always get a kick out of is that these pilots are somehow hiding all the things from passengers to somehow secretly put them in danger. Do these people never think "The pilots are on the plane. They'll probably want to survive this flight too?"
Exactly! I also question “pilots” with fake credentials in some countries. Why would you fake your piloting education and risk your own life? I can understand that perhaps they want the glamor and recognition, but do they consider they could be dead?
@@trishayamada807 From the BBC website, 25th June 2020:
"Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has grounded 150 pilots over claims they may not hold a valid licence. Pakistan's aviation minister told parliament on Wednesday that a large number of commercial pilots hold fake licences or cheated in exams.
It comes as an initial report into a PIA crash that killed 97 people last month found the cause to be human error by the pilot and air traffic control.
Pakistan has a chequered aviation safety record with a number of crashes.
Aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan shared the findings of an initial report into May's crash on Wednesday, but also referred to a wider government probe, which had been launched after a different crash. Following the 2018 crash, it was discovered that the test date on the pilot's licence was a public holiday, suggesting that testing could not have taken place on that day.
Mr Khan said investigations had found that more than 260 of the country's 860 active pilots had either fake licences or had cheated in their exams."
@@crogeny OMG! That is so scary.
Exactly!
Intentionally that's true. That said if you go back and look at every major incident/accident since the 70's it's pilot or mechanical error along with mechanical error not remedied by pilotage. These days the pilots are there in case something goes wrong, at that time they need to know what to do. Problem is some don't and it causes problems like worldwide grounding of the Boeing 737 MAX. The 2 crashes were poorly trained pilots for airlines in countries that don't have the strict training and safety protocols of western countries. Knee jerk reactions cause people to be scared, I've seen passengers refuse to fly when they see MAX on their ticket. Nonetheless, most accidents are liveable so the fear is perpetuated by social media. (When I say don't know what to do I'm talking about airline types referenced in the MAX incidents)
"Non-flammable material like cotton" That got me. They literally make candle wicks out of it cotton is super flammable
Kumalala
I worked at a cotton mill... There were quite a few fires.
It is flammable, but not super flammable. Out of clothing materials, it's one of the slowest burning things.
@@nw7630 on a candle the wax is what's burning. Not really the cotton until the wicking effect Stops taking place and the wax level lowers. People literally use cotton to start fires in survival kits
even if that wasn't the case - I wonder if these people know the likelihood of being in a car crash vs. airplane crash? this is kind of like planning what to do in a crash every time you get out of the house.
*"... Things pilots won't tell you"*
Bruhhh pilots would love to tell you literally everything about their job for free as long as you're willing to listen
A pilot's favorite thing: flying.
Second favorite thing: talking about flying.
How do you know if someone is a pilot: don't worry they will tell you.
This is why pilots can't join crossfit. They may have time for both, but not enough time to talk about both.
Yeah lol, I'm always willing to listen to them
@@jimfiggers9755 I'm studying aerospace engineering and I am the saaaame XD
trainee pilots same. Meet another trainee. Suddenly you have a best friend who understands your passions and interests and money worries and dedication and poverty and how many hours, which type oh that's awesome too. Meanwhile others pass by, stare, or ignore.
"Frank, this isn't Onlyfans, nobody wants to see your feet"
Oh man...
dont even start
oh shit.
-nobody ever
@@anaveragenascarfan9048 stop be gay bruh jk anyways ta no one ever
@@anaveragenascarfan9048 he literally said it in the video
"Things Pilots will not tell you"
TikTokers are really good pilots and should get a plane immediately.
@TheDutchLucas XD
*proceed to download Flight Simulator 2020 and thinking its 100000% accurate/realistic*
@@whathehellisthis one day…..one day I will have enough money to play that game😤
@@div1119 Microsoft flight simulator
LOL
The fact that you say that the pilots are in the same situation as the passengers, is indeed reassuring. Somehow I never thought of it that way, I don't know why.
They're in a worse spot. They are literally the first ones to impact.
@Gregg R Groff by saying 'literally'for no reason you sound like one of the tiktokers. They're only the first to impact if it's a front on collision. If it's a crash landing on a runway etc, usually the nose is lifted and the back is the first down.
@@czhaok Statistically he is correct based on some studies... 😁😂
Trying to educate yourself through the use of tik tok is like aiming to be a successful detective through watching scooby doo
And these TikTokers would have got away with it if it weren't for these pesky kids like Kelsey!
The sad thing is that more people than we think is doing just that.
I mean, just look at them, a big part of them abandoned their studies to do stupid videos, how can anybody take them seriously is beyond me... But many people actually do! 🤦
I'd say it's more like trying to stay dry while peeing into the wind😂😂
This is why we ban tiktok here in India
"I would have gotten away with it if it werent for those meddling kids"
Its amazing how in a world where objective facts are literally seconds away, most people still choose to be ignorant.
And when you try to help them by pointing them to good reading material they will say to you "copy paste low effort bs reeeeeee!!" 🤦. Yeah it's so low effort they can just search for it themselves.
@Cindy Tartt May I offer you this term. "Shit tockers"
@@Zyscheriah
I once linked someone over 10 peer-reviewed journals in MLA citation format to support my facts, and he responded "Those are just books". I kid you not. X'D
We’re living in a time where loads of adults reject vaccines lol. That’s actual life and death so..
That's a problem which is worsening. We are even outlawing objective facts because they are inconvenient.
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Some airlines tell passengers to remove their shoes, because women's shoes could puncture the slides or women sliding down could collide with people in front and hurt them.
FIRST ALSO IM A BIG FAN OF U IM SURPRISED THIS HAS NOT BLOWN UP YET OML
@@personperson5242 🤣🤣🤣
@@personperson5242 I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or not
@@personperson5242 and your username is any better?
@@personperson5242 it's cool, I agree, that's a far worse username, I hope you're having a good day.
As a pilot with only a single engine rating, I'm sooooo relieved I have only one-fourth of the chances of an engine failure as a 'quad jet.' 😂
Fun fact: Anyone with a green screen effect is instantly an expert.
The horrible thing is really that they dont use a real green screen but only this really annoying „filter“ 🤦🏻♂️
Never say green screen effect again. I know tiktok calls it like that, but If it is an effect then it has nothing f*cking to do with "green screen"
@@erlouwer Green screen effects are still visual effects. These are not green screen effects, yes. But the regular/actual green screen effect IS an effect. A visual effect (VFX) if you will.
@@btat16 I know, of course.
I was only talking about tiktok.
I know what makes an actual green screen effect
@@erlouwer My bad then. I thought your comment was referring to using the word “effect” with green screen in general. Feel free to forget what I said lol
You got to give it to the first dude, the more engines you have the more risk you have of an engine failure 😂
If you have 2000 engines you'd be more likely to have an engine go down compared to someone with just 1. Genius!
Clearly the safest course of action would be a 0 engine plane. Can't break if you don't got one!
Can't spill food on your shirt if you're not wearing one- Hitchcock ❤️
Pretty sure Gliders as a type enjoy the status of having the least combined total MEL items
also not a very meaningful, but true statement
This man deserves a nobel prize
@@gudduentertains can’t spill food on your shirt if you don’t have a torso
This comment should be in the meme with the black guy tapping a finger on his head
They are right about one thing though: they did actually tell you 5 things that a pilot would never tell.
A pilot would indeed never tell you those incorrect bs things.
Kelsey is a man with 1000 faces and I love every one of them! Forget Facebook, Instagram and Twitter...just give me Kelsey. He is amazing. Sure would love to fly on his plane sometime. If there is a Mrs. Kelsey, it's all good hon. In a few months I will be celebrating my 80th birthday and do not fly anymore. You have a good man there.
@@maryjojohnson9616 wot.
@@maryjojohnson9616 what
Love your logic about seat selection. In my younger years, always sat in window seat. Now, being nearly 80, my choice is the aisle seat.
I like to sit at the back, as you rarely hear of an airplane reversing into a mountain.
@@CravingBeer If you have a plane hit a mountain, I can guarantee it won't matter which end of it you were at!
The back of the plane is technically safer, however that's due to crashes on takeoff/landing, not the major types of crashes you're thinking of.
Personally, my perfect seat is a window seat as I like leaning against the wall rather than being bumped by everyone walking by, and as close to the front as possible so I don't have to wait as long to exit, and have fewer people ahead of me at customs. Though I'll happily take a row further back if it looks like I can manage a couple empty seats beside me. (I used to aim for an exit row for the leg room, but airlines got wise to that and now charge extra for it, and I'm too cheap for that! I'll sometimes still manage a bulkhead row without extra charge though...)
“Things Pilots won’t tell you” I’m a flight attendant, they are willing to talk happily about their job
LOL so true… one of my boys is a pilot… oh dear Lord, sometimes I just don’t ask him about work 😂😂😂
How is it to be a flight attendant?
before or after polishing the knob?
@@scheeenfilmiesgucke wut?
@@gamistry2947 u know whattayemean
When the airlines cheap out on fuel: “engine number one has stopped running, and engine number 2 is no longer on fire.”
LMAO Madagascar 💀
Great now we’ll never get there...
you got a hole on your left wing!
The penguins
Oh if only you’d had a channel in 2016. My late father loved aircrafts and I can tell he’d love your channel. Learning about anything related to aviation makes me feel closer to him so thank you
Aww💜💜
My Condolences.. May He Rest in Peace
My condolences
❤️❤️❤️
hello sorry for your loss
The part of getting ejected from the plane in the middle of the ocean in December because of a malfunction really made me laugh 😂 Of course as the pilot rightly says, a malfunction of such a mechanism would be far more probable than a plane crash itself .
Even if the mechanism was perfect, most crashes happen during landing, takeoff or are instant destruction (like flying into terrain or mid air collision). In order for that ejection system to work you need to have some weird situation when you're cruising high but know the plane won't make it. So wee are talking about mechanical issues with avionics, hydraulics or all engines failure. Which means that it's better to invest same amount of resources into making those systems more reliable. Military ejection seats would be better but thay are ridiculously expensive, require constant maintenance and would kill most passengers with 9-12 g blast. You have to be perfectly healthy and fit to use them.
Actually, when the manufacturer does the evacuation test, they typically just grab a bunch of employees from the shop floor to serve as the passengers. They don’t have any particular training, since that may actually not be allowed. We had a case where we failed an evacuation test, because the first person couldn’t open the door. We found out it was an internal design issue and had to make changes and redo the test.
Wwp
I was that employee grabbed from the shop floor once, but not for evacuatuon. Just to play passanger for a flight attendent training. I have seen flight attemdents play passangers forceach other force acuatuon training.
Truth, I worked on wings for the twin aisles in Everett and they used to put out emails asking for volunteers.
Maybe they have no training but it's still different than real evacuation. This is simulation only - these "passenger" knows they will live after. On the other hand real evacuation with flames, smoke, broken parts inside, some dead passangers will have significant affect the 90 seconds limit.
@@remetremet This. Plus the evacuation test passengers don't have their valuables in the overhead compartment that they have to decide to leave behind
I really never knew people take their shoes and socks off during a flight. I could see an international flight. I have only done flights within the USA so it never occurred to me.
Oh my God please respond to me I watch your videos all the time I love the cop calls
@@conorhorn5318
Oh my God you actually respond how is your TH-cam channel doing
I think someone watched Die Hard
Hye! I love all your video.❤️
I like Kelsey's smile as he watches and listens to all these "flight and safety experts"
I think he's actually dying inside
@@mockingjay_2397 same
4 engine jets loosing an engine. 747 recently had a single engine failure after take off. It was so funny listening to the ATC.. Pilot requested a return to airport, Controller asked whats wrong, pilot said nothing, we just lost an engine, so i'd like to bring it back.
ATC "so you're declaring an emergancy?" "Nope, just looking for a return." ATC "are you landing heavy?" "Nope, just looking for a return. Everything's fine." "do you need fire?" "Nope, not needed there's no emergency."
ATC couldn't get it through his head that the 747 had no emergency after an engine failure.. Gives him the return vectors and landing clearance... says fire is standing by. "Thanks, but not needed." Plane landed, fire trucks were there trying to figure out what was going on... he just didn't want to start a transatlantic with 3 engines. If it was domestic he'd have just carried on.
"If you see a Tik Toker saying dumb things"
We may be here a while.
The word "dumb" is redundant.
I’m all for deleting this app from existence.
@@ryanthunderhammer9970 im proud of you... Taking one step at a time... By the end of the month tiktok idiocy will be out of your system proud of ya bud 🤗
Bro luke actually does his research
@@designtechdk no
Geni: there are 3 rules, no wishing for death, no falling in love, no bring back dead people.
me: I wish TikTok had a dislike button
Geni : I will do that for free
I wish tik tok wasn't a thing
That sounds like a Wonderfull idea, oh, and with every Dislike, a Like gets shaved off
@@bombomos Also a Good idea
Are you a fast talking, fourth-wall breaking, genie?
@@hshdss1318 Pretty much
This tik toks is the reason im scared to fly, but when a real pilot talks about this tik toks and comfirm whats Real or not, makes me feel safer, thank you.
In 2010 (random date chosen) there where 162 accidents and 1,130 deaths which may seem high, but considering there where 2.6 billion flights which equates to 0.000006% chance of an accident occuring. You have a higher chance of being in an accident driving to the aiport than being in one on a plane.
@@ascelot Yeah you have a more chance of a car accident then a plane crash
U have other issues if u listened to these obviously super weird looking tic tokers
kiddo, fact check everything you see on the internet especially on tic tok. Or else you'll be a non-functional emotional wreck.
@@ryanswift128 you are correct.
I remember a joke I heard about the advancements in aircraft engineering. "In the future planes will have a pilot and a dog. The pilot to turn on the autopilot and the dog to make sure the pilot doesn't touch anything."
Sort of ironic considering the recentish Boeing issues.
🤣🤣🤣
When I listen to videos like this I realise my lifelong terror of flying was mainly due to misinformation/ignorance (and Hollywood!) I might even get back on a plane some day.
From my experience, watching videos about plane crashes actually helps, you learn how safe planes are today etc
Another fact is that even if you do crash,
Nearly all plane crashes are non fatal 🤩
It shows how safe planes are nowadays!
Watch air disasters theres over 12 seasons and most of time everone dies in a crash.
@@subarutime5089 Watch a series about deadly crashes because they die?... Yes of course 'air disasters' won't show the crashes and emergencies that ended well, where the pilots saved the plane and those on it... Be more like 'air normalities' where they just show the plane flying along safely, sounds exciting... >.<
That's like saying watch die hard, people die there, or watch 'Greatest forest fires' those forests really burn...
@@subarutime5089 Off course, why would they show air "disasters" where nobody dies? They would have to rename the series to Minor Air Inconveniences.
I lost it laughing when I heard "non-flammable clothing like cotton or denim". Fun fact: denim is usually also cotton and all cellulose-based fabrics have a bad habit of spontaneously combusting in high heat.
Glad I wasn't the only one. Wool is the way to go here.
I didn’t notice that cause I’m no expert in materials but thank you!
Strictly speaking cotton is flammable. However, when I was working on utility poles we were specifically instructed to wear cotton clothes. The reason is that in the event of contact with live conductors, cotton burns but it doesn't melt. When it comes right down to it you're going to be better off if your cotton shirt burns than if your polyester shirt melts into your flesh.
@@they-call-me-mister-trash847 Oh, true, I forgot the merits of something frying to ash vs. melting and sticking. I was working off of my fashion background, where they taught us most children's pajamas are made of polyester due to cotton's possibility of spontaneous combustion in the event of a house fire.
When I hear cotton....
I ALWAYS prefer the advice of a 20-something TH-camr straight out of high school or college over a seasoned professional!
I felt like sarcasm got through without the "NOT".
/s where
KingCrab69 People don't have to put /s in any sarcastic joke they make
@@shmslkel6224 yes. It was meant to be funny, but I am not funny.
KingCrab69 Aight bro, I just said that because some people are annoying with the /s thing, even sending death threats to people who don't use it, sorry
Thank you for making this channel. My father was an USAF mechanic and would get frustrated with people thinking stuff like that if a single engine went down that the plane was doomed. I learned long ago that many planes can fly on crutches.
"Frank, this isn't OnlyFans. Nobody wants to see your feet." LOL
There’s a creepy guy in NY who grabs flight attendant’s feet on the subway.
Then there was that guy from Ohio who allegedly grabbed flight attendant's....
It's OnlyHands I guess
@@sha2ron874 Humm. Perhaps we should give the flight attendants some stiletto shoes so they can punch a hole in the creep's hand?
How can he tell they're flight attendants on the subway?
I'd never take anyone who holds their mic like this guy does seriously
I know right? He looks like a crazy priest claiming he'd cast out the devil from you for 5 bucks at the shopping center
He's got a verified account on tiktok. You'd think he'd have a better mic by now, and not the one that comes with the headphones when you buy your cellphone
@@sniperwolf50 I agree, although I still use the mic on my ps4 headset (which sounds pretty bad apparently) so I can't exactly judge.
It looks like he’s doing satire mocking tik tokkers. I didn’t know the app became this bad.
@@tamiwu0346 the internet is this bad, tiktok is just the new thing to look at and pretend this is all new.
You have been able to find this same stuff on youtube for a decade now. Hell, most people that believe in that adrenochrome stuff can have that belief traced back to one youtube video, either directly or being convinced by something using that video as a source.
Some people will believe anything as long as you play into their emotions enough or just sound like you know what you're talking about.
When choosing seats I like to sit at emergency exits - not because I want to be out fast, but because the distance to the seat in front usually is larger. With long legs and knees bumping into the seat in front of my that's a lot of additional comfort.
Thanks for the tip
But sometimes the screen to watch movies is much further away 😭
You must be some sort of giant genius!
The one about the socks and hairy feet had me doubled-over laughing! My wife routinely takes her, (fashionable, but tight-fitting), shoes off during a flight, (after climb-out and puts them back on when descending), but she leaves her socks on and brings slippers.
One of the things I collect are "air-crash" videos. Not because I'm a warpo masochist, but because I like the engineering overview of *_why_* the crash happened and *_what was done to mitigate the risk for the future_*
And a FYI: Airlines doing stupid things to "control costs" or otherwise endanger people tend to get their operating certificate revoked - and damn fast too. Ref: The Yaroslavl Lokomotiv hockey team's crash and what happened to Red Wings airline in Russia when they got stupid. Not only did they get their certificates revoked by the Russian "FAA", but people high up in the food chain there went to prison too. (And Russian prisons aren't the luxury beachfront resorts they've been made out to be 😉.) Chalks Ocean Airways is another good example in the U.S.
P.S.
Driving is more dangerous than flying.
The "within 5 rows of an exit" thing came from ONE study at Cranfield in about 1988 or 89, under VERY specific circumstances (I was part of the study, one of the, in this trial, untrained evacuees, simulating more realistic evacuation than the certification tests). When the main doors are blocked, leaving only overwing exits, and in this trial those were the old, really small ones (not on anything built since the mid 90's), only a few rows made it se tiny exits before they got clogged with people clammering to get out; the trial had to be stopped to avoid anyone getting injured (the purpose of the trial was to stop deaths and injuries, not to risk us participants). Unlike certification tests, where everyone exits in an orderly manner, we were incentivised to get out - the first half out got an extra payment, which for students was worth a little pushing and shoving. It wasnt totally realistic (no hand luggage, all of us were relatively fit and young with no old grannies) but it proved that real evacuations are very different, especially when there is an incentive (similar to an engine fire). In the rest of the tests, 5 rows?, bullsh!t!
There’s a video on TH-cam of them showing this experiment! Everyone rushing and shoving to get out… but with massive smiles on their faces. 😂 I can’t imagine they’d be smiling that much in an emergency.
I’d really like to think everyone could keep calm in a real emergency and not cause deaths by panicking and blocking exits etc but no one really knows how they’ll react in those moments until it happens and you really feel that “oh fk I’m really fighting for my life here”
This was the trial where instead of please exist the plane as quickly as possible they said they would pay extra to the first few off the plane ... then it got realistic ...
@@davidioanhedges Yep, £10 to attend, £5 for the first half of in each of three evacuations. £25 for a few hours work on a Saturday morning was worth it.
I believe this was repeated (don’t know the exact circumstances or rules there) in a documentary where they even crashed an old aircraft in the desert somewhere.I saw it and thought it made sense that in case you have to evacuate quickly, being closer to an exit was better. In the experiment, they didn’t coach anyone more than usual but also didn’t try to make it harder. Many at the door didn’t push the discarded door out of the plane (the most common ‘error’ and therefore it was in the way of the exit). That meant many could’ve exited much earlier... Logical to want to be closer to the exit too. 🤷🏻♀️
@@andyowens5494 back in the 80s that could nearly buy a house...🤪
*4 things pilots didnt tell you*
also the same guy 2 milliseconds later: Pilots **Admitted** to falling asleep on the controls
69. Like and no comment I will change that
@@Akoo787 you never changed
@@Slabzulix I did now 99 likes and 3 comment
why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont
@@timwells637 bro speak english
That “dang it Bobby” cut-away made me do a spit-take. Nicely done sir
Lol
For some reason I lost it and still can’t stop laughing when you said that the pilots are still stuck on that ridiculous plane to die after they’ve the ejected passengers to “parachute” to the safety. Something about the upbeat five minute crafts music and energy of that tik tok clip and just imagining the pilots yeeting everyone off to now be not cared about and left to die with that music just made me lose it I can’t even explain why it was so funny to me and the way you said it hahaha.
This is my new favorite series.
It is definitely a good one!
I'm not a Tictok person so I wonder if anyone can post this video like on that idiots tictok page lolol 😆
well it seems like they won't be slowing down anytime soon making dumb baseless assumptions
@@74gear hmmm ... sounds like your saying more fun videos for us from you!
9:30
I remember watching something, somewhere, where they were trying to replicate getting people off in a panic and they couldn't get people to behave irrationally. They ended up paying a huge reward for the first X number of people out of the plane and suddenly it was chaos.
I think it was for the British Airways disaster. They were trying to simulate the panic on the plane and offered a sum of money for the first off the plane. The survivors of the crash saw the footage and went “yeah, that’s what it was like.”
@@localmenace3043 EXACTLY
Heh, clever strategy, it's not a 1-to-1 equivalent but close enough to deffinitly get the info needed
This reminds me of an old expression: "You can't fix stupid!" Kelsey, thank you for your wisdom, experience, courage, patience, sense of humor and willingness to educate us! 👍✈️
Once upon a time, you COULD fix stupid. Then people made rules to prevent it.
I like him but I'm not sure where "courage" comes into play 😄
@@GrizzAxxemann lobotomies…
@@titchkeat5427 Not exactly what I had in mind... but that would probably work, too.
This "Roast" is so needed. Am very tired of misinformation and just outright lies. Keep up the good work.
Cotton isn’t “non-flammable” in fact it’s extremely flammable, the reason some people who work with electricity wear it is because when it catches fire it burns up and disintegrates extremely fast.
As a fire enthusiast, I think its appeal around some jobs is less about how fast it burns and more about how it doesn't leave molten plastic on your skin (just charred bits that suck at conducting heat into your skin). At least that's why I would rather wear it around fire or hot things, burns more like a resin than a thermoplastic.
Also seems like it's more prone to charring and repelling things like beads of molten metal. Thermoplastic fibers tend to catch things like that and hold them or rapidly melt and retract away from the hot thing and let it hit your skin.
@@DrPersonman fire enthusiast? You mean pyromaniac?
@@whosagoodgirl5846 lol
@@DrPersonman Yes this. A girl at elementary school got burned badly when she had been wearing a nylon dress during the Christmas dinner at elementary school (her elbow had been above a small candle). Most of the burning happened because of the plastic melting and causing fumes to ignite much quicker, setting her dress on fire, which in itself woulld be a disaster with cotton or nylon, but now the molten plastic stayed on her skin and got etched into it.
I can recall the first day of school after Christmas holidays where we were told about what happened (it was a different location of the same school at which it happened) and how it would influence anything involving candles and clothing from that moment on.
Candles would not be on tables anymore, and every parent was instructed to dress their child for those kind of celebrations in cotton-only clothing.
Had the same thing happen to me once with a cotton shirt, the moment I had this "Gee that's hot!" feeling in my elbow and pulled away my arm the shirt self extinguished (ok, it might have been impregnated with a flame-retardant, but still). It had a charred edge around the hole the flame had burnt into it, but that was it.
@@DrPersonman 100% Nothing better than having molten plastic burn into your skin, at least you can stop drop and roll in cotton.
The King of the Hill "Dang it, Bobby" was sheer brilliance, had me in fits!
6:27 for anyone who wanted a repeat.
@@lucasblair2490 Certainly did it a couple of times. 😁
Loved it
I can't get enough of these videos Kelsey, the scary part though is the majority of followers of Tik Tok "Experts' truly believe this and could make it dangerous for those of us with common sense on flights and in the event of an emergency.
Listen to the flight attendants not the idiots on Tik Tok.
How Bobby's mouth movements line up fairly well with Kelsey's speech at 4:51 I found quite satisfying.
My cat really likes your voice, Kelsey. She keeps head butting my phone.
Yours too ??! Try having 5 cats who love Kelsey lol
@@cornfarts can't imagine the pain
I wonder do they like the pilot errrring too?
@@saf5502 well, that's often what's happened when you see "pilot err-er" cited as the cause of a crash - one too many headbutts at the wrong damn time.
I am no expert on cats, but I think she wants you to pet her 🤷♂️
What ticks me off is that they don’t know anything about anything so they pick a trend and make up stuff. And all of the aviation enthusiasts, and pilots and crew have to clean up their messes. But Kelsey, you make it SO much more understandable!
And funny....
Dude has sassy
@@nhokonhokopuala 😂😂😂😂😂
Too be honest. Half of those tiktoks are dangerous, simply dangerous, since we have a lot of people that like to gulp info without checking it... And will always do that because tiktok told them... Idiotic and dangerous. People making those videos should have some sort of awakening via ticket or few days in prison. You know, endangering the public or something like that
@@MrKaktusPLthat's the chinese govts goal in it all.
That logic with the engines is the same as "if we did less testing there'd be less reported cases"
No it wouldn't moron because how many tests are false positives being counted into the total.
@@usa5439 well you're right but calling him a moron?
@@usa5439 False positives are a fixed percentage of however many tests you perform, what that percentage is depends on the test process itself and not on the number of tests performed. Less testing, means fewer positives overall, including fewer false positives, AND fewer negatives too (the number that is never shown and because of that the moronic idea of less testing seems attractive to all the blunt crayons in the box).
The real metric is "What is the probability of losing enough engines as to not be able to fly de plane?"
@@KimonFrousios The TOTAL of false positives would still go up the more tests you do, regardless if it's 1% or 99% of false positives. So percentage is irrelevant.
That ridiculous ejection idea: can you imagine how difficult it would be to design a pressure vessel capable of mating to the cockpit and utilize the PACKs? I already have to deal with enough ECS faults and bleed leaks as it is. Not to mention the number of inspections, operational tests, and general maintenance such a system would require. I almost want to cry just thinking about it.
Not only that, but for what i know there`s signiffically more probability of serious accidents on land or take off. And this system can`t help in these scenarios. And if there is some malfunction with this system in these scenarios , i think it will may increase risks for passengers.
Cotton And denim are both definitely flammable, but the reason you wear them is because when they do burn, they just burn, they don't melt like synthetic materials, they aren't fire proof or fire resistant in any way shape or form.
This is why we should make clothes out of 100 % asbestos!
@@fillybuster8371 ouch sounds really abrasive.
@@suzannehartmann946 I like how you are more worried about being comfy than getting cancer.
@@suzannehartmann946 Scratch the asbestos, sand paper is better.
@@annoyinglyfast5972 bruh screw that lets make it Outta some good air
"mistakes makes you stronger"
the guy who created tiktok :
one punch man level
@@hamzawarsi1834 hes probably stronger than god himself
Gigs chad
@XD funfact : you talking a bout fictional character comaper to god
Who is the strong one here?
I can't stand these Tik Tokers standing in front of a cruddy green screen that's shaking all over the place (turbulence maybe) and flapping their arms around whilst using a bloody earbud as a mic.
Yep, and the amount of credibility they have is just frightening.
It's that they dont have a green screen, it's a filter on tik tok
@@saturn_v3362 wow, can’t even be bothered to invest in a 10 pound/dollar green screen 😂
@@Formula1st that’s tiktok for you
actually as aerospace engineer it is true that it's easier to design a safer twin jet aircraft than a 4 engine aircraft. As the main design parameters drive wings to more swept back wings, which means you have either a larger moment acting on the engine (further back from the root of the wing, giving a weird moment, or a further forward extending pylong creating a moment around the pylon).
Modern aircraft typically have hence only two engines especially since they are typically smaller moving away from a hub-spoke system.
13 years as an engineer in the aviation industry. You hit all the major high points (the biggest ones we'd use to dissuade management if they wanted an ejecting fuselage). Failure risk, cost, reduced performance and compared to current safety rates show it's just not feasible. No need to dive deeper (the deeper issues would vary depending on the solution design).
Plus, we'd also be saying "not only that, but good luck finding a pilot willing to fly the damn thing."
We engineers know who our end users are, and those of us who've been around long enough know "cynicism is just being bluntly realistic."
Interesting, might I ask which would most likely point of failure of such a design?
Besides killing the pilots, the two wings it's the worst, that thing could fall over populated areas and do some nasty damage. Even with little fuel (with all the extra weight would be more fuel per flight so there's that). And how guide the fuselage to a safe place if it's over a city, or rocky terrain. But the major factor in our greedy world would be less passenger's, more fuel, more cost, way less lucrative because of the weight and all other things add to the plane.
@@shottyman6013 fuselage ejecting at high altitude with that high wind will put that fuselage into a spin and good luck releasing parachute while spinning and even with perfect wind condition landing with a parachute over random ground or sea will put greater danger and possibly create bigger disaster. Parachute don’t land on the ground softly to begin with
It's a risk/cost analysis. I bet many of these TikTokkers drive cars. Even at low speeds it is far more dangerous than a commercial flight. The most dangerous part of flaying from London to New York is getting to and from the airport. That's why I never drive there. I take a taxi... (TikTok!)
why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont
Regarding the emergency exit certification: A few years ago I visited Airbus and during the tour our guide told us that they need to be able to evacuate the plane with the highest density configuration, using half the emergency exits in 90 seconds.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. He also said that these test are done with untrained people which they pick from the street and need to include pregnant people, disabled persons, etc.
I worked interiors for the other guys. Your Airbus guide told you right!
They started testing it more earnestly after a bunch of people died in a fire on the runway because they couldn't get out in the 90 seconds that they supposedly should have been able to. Psychologist came up with the idea of offering a cash reward to the first people off to replicate the madness of everyone trying to get off at once and showed the problem points in the plane's interior design.
@@wordforger if you're referring to the flight I think you are (air canada 797), better consideration towards evacuability was key in that case but a major factor was also the fact the plane was filled with smoke making it impossible to see. that said, that incident did show you need to design around that possibility as well.
Well, most of these comments are a few years old, but recently, an airline hit another small plane that had strayed onto the runway in front of the airliner that was taking off. Whilst sadly, the people in the small plane died, the crew of the airliner somehow managed to get everyone off safely within 90 seconds despite the fact that half the exits were blocked by a massive fire. How they achieved that is beyond comprehension. Image the confusion amongst the passengers and the fact that many would attempt to get their bags etc, thereby blocking the aisles. 90 seconds! Incredible!
TikTokers: the safest way to fly is to overspeed the aircraft and turn off everything you see and if you see the big red 2 or 4 buttons open them and push them as it totally wont turn off the engines and make them useless!
As an engineer, building that parachute thing basically doubles the cost of a flight because of the extra weight, not to mention even more things that need to work increasing inspection time and money
I, aerospace engineer,
get challenged about:
"Well, if the entire fuselage parachute system is impractical, why not individual ejection seats?"
I then have them imagine granny, with her fragile bones, getting hit by ejection, windblast, and parachute landing forces.
That usually puts an end to the individual ejection seat ideas.
I then explain how we are mitigating certain potential issues to significantly reduce the probability of fatalities in aviation incidents.
I usually use the potential of HUDs, LAAS GPS, WAAS GPS, and synthetic vision to reduce the probability of Controlled Flight Into Terrain during approach and landing.
Oh really? I’m not an engineer or a pilot but when the idea of parachutes was introduced to my mind in the comments section of another aviation video recommending it as an idea. But after thinking about it for a few minutes I realised it probably wouldn’t be a good idea. Admittedly this was more about an individual passenger grabbing a parachute pack and bailing out of a passenger plane experiencing serious trouble but likely many of the same problems would likely apply.
After mulling over the concept for a moment I came up with similar problems. Passenger planes move fast. Like, really fast. I don’t know the specific numbers but even if the pilots were flirting with the absolute slowest the plane could fly without the engines stalling that’s still hundreds of miles an hour. I want to say over 200 but I really don’t know if I’m accurately remembering some random thing I might have picked up from an aviation video so don’t quote me on that.
Either way I have severe doubts about whether the human body is even capable of jumping or falling out of something like a 747 or one of it’s two engine cousins, avoid the engines if you’re jumping out of the front exits, avoid clipping the hull or side fins at the tail, without taking severe damage or injuries from the forces involved in such a thing. And that’s before I thought about the next problem which is that most people aren’t trained to jump out of aircrafts and use parachutes safely. And that’s about the point where my mind kind of sprung back to the conditions passenger planes tend to fly at. Where the air is so thin we can’t breathe it and so cold we’d be unlikely to survive that. Admittedly I stopped thinking about it because that’s the point where I decided that the whole thing was ludicrous.
But as a bonus round, I remember a documentary team that was allowed to follow a bunch of Air Force cadets as they went through their basic training and one episode covered their jump out of a plane and parachute down training. I think it must have been low altitude version because they weren’t nearly as high as sky divers are. Plus there were instructors on the ground able to bellow at each cadet as he or she went down. And even though they’d had a lot of training and practice beforehand, out of the about twenty or so that jumped, two ballsed it up. One got twisted in the paracords and only avoided injury out of a combination of luck and emergency training. The second seemed to freeze up and tensed instead of loosening up to disperse the landing impact and broke a leg.
Admittedly though the fuselage ejection parachute system idea legitimately never even occurred to me as a concept before watching this video and I had a split second where I mentally protested the sudden changes in weight and balance before Kelsey was pointing out those exact things.
Honestly the whole thing can be summed up by another thought I had while deciding parachutes on passenger planes was a stupid idea. “Really, given how long commercial flying has existed, how many times things have gone wrong and hundreds of people have died, these giant flying metal behemoths have been designed by the best minds of humanity and the safety rules proverbially written in blood. If such an idea worked, people smarter than me would have already thought of it and made it work.”
Good luck ejecting halfway across the Atlantic. Or in Antarctica.
Could you imagine how long that ejection sequence would take? And also, there’s the whole ordinance issue. All passengers would have to get a “seat check out” qualification. LOL
Imagine how many kids would be pulling the ejection handles.
It’s a wonder that some people remember to breathe.
"getting challenged" as an engineer is sometimes great and sometimes you just hesitate between rolling on the floor laughing or crying.😂 As an engineer in electronics, I've had buyers ask me "why not use this heatsink? It says it works great" Me, watching at said heatsink, which is plastic, when I need something with high electrical conductivity because it is a part of the electrical circuit: "You know, when I said 4 years ago it couldn't work with that, I really meant it 💁♀"
Haha, yes as soon as you explain to them they'll be accelerating from 0-100mph in circa 0.2 seconds they soon change their minds. After a pilot ejects (he would have been exposed to forces in the region of 15g) they are grounded for months whilst they undergo physio for their compressed spines.
"There are no ejection seats or parachutes"
TikTokers: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN! Ejection seats and parachutes!
Are we gonna talk about how "non flammable material like cotton" when rephrased to "cotton flammability" and put into Google comes up as "extremely flammable"? xD
Cotton is flammable, but it's safe than polyester which would basically turn into napalm on your skin. In my welding class, the first think we were told was to NEVER wear polyester, always wear denim Jean's and a cotton long sleeve because the sparks will almost instantly catch polyester on fire
I don’t see why there’s a need for ejection seats it’s really just extra weight
There no parachutes because when the plane crashes if you are in brace positions you'll be fine and if there were parachutes you are actually more likely to die of cute failure or getting separated from everyone in a tree or something.
@@indicaking Exactly what I was taught too. Imagine being coated in something about as sticky as pancake syrup, maybe twice as hot as boiling water, and on fire. Cotton and ash are fluffy, not as good at transferring heat into skin as a hot liquid. Although, I suppose if you have the misfortune of being soaked in burning jet fuel...well if you survive, at least they won't be ripping glued on plastic out of the burns.
Most plane accidents happen during takeoff or landing. Those are the events when a parachute is useless. When at cruise altitudes, parachutes are a possibility, but with those speeds parachutes would just rip and tear right off, becoming useless. And it would take 27 football field sized parachutes to carry a 747, so there would even be space for passengers or cargo.
“Bring a plastic bag”
Bro just bring a parachute so u can jump of a plane when it is on fire lmfao
FBI open up you got a parachute on United
FBI pls punish them ,they are spreading Fake information 👀
Yes duh 🙄 just bring a parachute 🪂 it’s not that hard not to die 💀
This is a joke btw
@@churro8998 thank god I was gonna roast you
@@Chopped_Liver think he joke
As a flight attendant…the smoke hood part made me HAHAHA out loud. That was a good one 😂
That second one uses bad understanding of math to scare people. They say "43% to 55%" of pilots, then "33% of those" which means in total it's about 14.2% of pilots who have apparently woken up to find their copilot asleep.
Ok, so he's still probably full of crap.
yeah, 14.2 percent of those 33 percent of those hand selected pilots from a union survey after a massive increase in work time.
He left the most relevant info out, thankfully the pilot corrected it.
Why was it even 43% to 55%?
Like, why the uncertainty of 43% to 55%?
The spread between values really gets me in this case. That is not how personally reported data is usually presented. I mean deviation... on discrete binary answers? Its weird... I mean, just why? If there was a survey, or multiple surveys, you get A WHOLE NUMBER of answers. And you can make a weighed average out of all those results.
Like... 40 out of a 100... then 300 out of a 1000... and 100 out of a 200... so you get 0.4 at 1/13 weight, 0.3 at 10/13 weight and 0.5 at 2/13 weight... and you, again, get a concrete percentage. How they got a +-6% in that process is beyond me :D
EDIT: I think you can determine how statistically relevant your full sample is and then transform the "level of significance" to concrete numbers as a deviation. But if the deviation was THIS large, I think that any statistical table would dismiss it altogether as simply statistically insignificant. So I doubt that is it.
To his credit, most planes could fly without a pilot and typically unless they feel the need to take over (bad weather) or take off/landing the plane mostly does fly by itself these days.
“This isn’t onlyfans, no one wants to see your feet” 😆
having a wet cloth or smoke hood in case of fire is almost on the level of bringing a parachute in case the planes wall opens up next to you, and you get sucked out
😆 I have a saying for this. It's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. The looks as I slide it through the xray machine to carry on...
Don’t try to take credit for a line from True Romance…
I worked for a commercial airline for 40 years. The fuel liad is caculated on distance,passemger load, cargo, weather...by Dispatch. I have witnessed a pilot requesting more fuel.
The last point of the passenger compartment ejecting would totally change the CG of the plane. I was instructed to make 737s tail heavy, within central load planning parameters to keep the nose up, therefore using less fuel. IDK if this is true, but better minds than mine decided.
That parachute thing has been around forever. I can't remember the amount of times I've told people to think about what would happen if it ejects accidently or partially.
It would be as structurally sound as the anti mass spectrometer.
@@dr.wallacebreen3859 🤣🤣
It feels like the equivalent of putting ejection seats on a subway train
If it can go wrong, it WILL go wrong at some point.
Also included in the FAA 90 second rule: this evacuation has to be demonstrated with half of possible exits (randomly selected and unknown in advance to the evacuees) not usable.
As someone who is afraid of flying, thank you. I’m actually getting on a jet here pretty soon
How was your flight
@@sanmarino8605 she died
I much prefer travel by flying than bus or car in a highway. Much safer.
@@TJChagas ya that's actually true but most people dont use planes as everyday travel like many do with cars and bus
@@TJChagas No, That is never going to be true, Plane statistcally are MORE safer then cars or busses. Tho they’re still pretty safe
I so enjoy everything about your channel. Your expertise, the information you share, the misinformation you tackle head-on and your humor. Thank you for your time and talent.
I absolutely love the absurdity of the separating plane thing. “How can we save the passengers of an airplane in an emergency. How about let’s just get rid of all the lift and controls of the plane, yah that should work.”
Saving them from life??? Kek
When the main passenger area of the plane is on fire but the pilot yeets U out of the plane
I love your god tier poker face while you’re watching these Tik Toks. I can’t tell if your deepened frown and head nodding is confirmation that what’s being said is true, or if you’re thinking “oh okay so THIS is the kind of stupid we’re dealing with”.
Yeah so true
You can tell by Bobby's body language, he's trying to make his video seem like it's a crucial event, or even an emergency. He doesn't sit still, but bounces around. He doesn't keep his hands consistent, either, going from closed to open to by his side to pointing across him, and then the spread finger effect for "seriousness."
On the plus side, I've been watching your videos for about seven months now and finally clicked that *Subscribe* button. Might as well since I realized I've watched every video since then and even some of the older ones. :)
Bobby looks like such a fucking little tool. And look, hes spreading false information too, what do you know
@@BK-uy9nj Bobby presents like a typical social media douche, exaggerated and melodramatic. And incredibly ignorant and foolish. Another genius social media self-appointed wise guy.
Who are these dweebs?
@Alfie Wolfie I wouldn't doubt he acts like that all the time on his videos. I'm just stating he's acting or over-acting with his body movement to try to create the "seriousness" of his supposed 'secrets.'
My kid follows some TH-camrs for a game he likes and they're very much overly-dramatic. I can always tell when he's listening to their older videos, because they're calmer and more natural, but as they became more popular, they started screaming and "OMG!" and the like so much more.
u just encouraged me to subscribe too! There are some channels that pop up on my recommended so often that I forget I haven’t even subscribed oops
10:44 you can tell he trying so hard not to laugh
Hey Kelsey, your subs have gone crazy - couldn’t happen to a nicer guy!
Kelsey is the man!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
ya we just keep growing right along huh? Thanks Folk, I appreciate you!
Chicken Little's "The sky is falling" came to mind several times. Always interesting, thanks!
I just can't imagine walking through the plane in stocking feet, that's just too much! Also I would take the advice of a pilot who knows the regulations, over another person who isn't a trained pilot. Thanks Kelsey, once again you bring a smile to my face! I'm glad you keep addressing these situations on you-tube. People shouldn't be afraid to fly.
@Kepler 186-F amogus
The "multi engine is less safe than single" is technically true on Fighter jets though. But that tends to come down to two factors:
Increased risk of maintenance mistakes by having twice as much engine labor
High risk of cascading failure because the engines are next to each other, rather than spaced out like on an airliner, bomber, or transport plane.
I am at the part where you were talking about evacuating the plane in 90 seconds. I can say I along with quite a few others were messaged and asked if we wanted to participate in that test. The "training" you get is not that much really. The big thing is that makes a difference is that you know you need to leave quickly. This gives you time to count the seats, mentally think, and react sooner, along with actually memorizing how to remove emergency doors.
Beyond that, not much real training, we did the entire thing in under 30 minutes and this was more or less random people. I was seated next to a machinist and some Sr manager that did something with IT.
So, yeah, less trained than you think. 37 got its air cert back though, and this was one of the required tests.
Interesting.
I would say the most concerning issue is people worry about their bags and dont think about people behind them cant evacuate.
I found your channel a few weeks ago, and since then been playing your videos non-stop. Thank you!!! 👍🏻❤️✈️🙏
They are fantastic videos! One of the best channels ever!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@@michaelrussell3353 Agreed! So happy to have discovered it! 😃
Me too! :)
Hello there
"Do what these tiktokers dont do: Research" XD Couldn't be more accurate
I was in a training session of a typerating before as a visitor and they trained that day engine failure safety landings…so I can support 74 Gear‘s statements totally.
More people need to see this. I really don’t understand how people can make these videos without any criteria. Like some random on internet saying tie a dead chicken around your dog’s neck. Or some housewife saying you need to eat 600 calories to lose weight and “tone up”
They're probably bored or something... But what I want to know who are the people who watch tiktok videos and believe what they are saying? There is some kind of lack of critical thinking or scepticism in people these days.
The ONLY thing that has ever concerned me about flying is being charged for having luggage 1kg overweight, yet can carry as much junk as I like that I bought from the duty free shops 😂
I’m pretty thin, always think passenger weight + baggage should be considered.
@@emlyndewar 100% with you, they have scales for cases, it wouldn't be a stretch to weigh passages too 👍
@@emlyndewar I don't know if that would be that fair, if it would mean that people at heavier weights would get to carry even less baggage. Which would mean any body builder, muscular person in general, even slightly overweight people, very tall people etc. all would get to carry less then someone short and light like me. I do think weight could be taken into account in some way, but not if it's gonna influence the amount of luggage someone can carry.
@@yulana990 I think it could be used in an intelligent way. Absolutely don’t think tall/muscular people should be penalized. Just felt ridiculous the time I’d foolishly went 500g over and had some hassle, whilst some people behind me weighed infinitely more than I do.
@@emlyndewar there are calculations for pax weight, different airlines different weight, but mine 75kgs domestic flight, 85kgs international flight. There are margin for weights.
Kelsey would make a perfect friend! His personality would keep you laughing your rear off at the same time calmly reassuring you that every thing will be ok.
you and my cousin which is a pilot trainee are the only people in the world who reassure me when it comes to aviation..
I’m not good at reading faces, but usually Kelsey looks happy or a bit concerned in his other series, even if he’s not smiling. In the Tiktok roast series, he looks as if he’s frustrated or irritated, and I agree with that. Tiktokers are some of the worst disinformation spreaders possible.
Facts. It’s scary
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@@sharepremium8614 I agree, dude.
I feel like the crew on passenger planes will need to start telling passengers to not listen to crazy tiktokers when they explain "in case if emergency" protocol...😄😄
Or when one shows themselves, perhaps when they unpack their smoke hood, 'statistically the safest way to fly is not be on the plane' then open the door for them to leave.
Or 'secret 'escape pods' for tiktok believers are hidden in the luggage compartment', and have boards in one of the 'crates' (I've forgotten the title of the specially designed containers for aircraft fuselages) to which all these people are duct-taped 'for safety', in the fetal position so that they can 'kiss their *** goodbye' (to quote one of the penguins of Madagascar). :)
This video reminds me of a date I had, where after I told her my dad was a pilot, she insisted that "pilots don't really fly the plane, the autopilot does." There was no second date.
Auto pilot can do a significant portion of the piloting, but not everything
@@tanya5322 For instance: complying ATC instructions.
@@dbclass4075 In a sense, yes. If ATC issues a routine (non emergency) instruction to change course or change altitude and the autopilot is "on" the pilot flying is probably not going to turn off the autopilot and change course/altitude using the yoke. Instead the pilot will twiddle the knobs on the autopilot as per ATC request and the AP will execute standard rate turns or set climb/descent rates to comply with the ATC requests.
@@Vincent_Sullivan But as you described, it still requires pilot's input. Even they are just knobs and buttons, it is not something we could realistically expect a panicking passenger to interact properly.
@@dbclass4075 This is exactly why I said "In a SENSE, yes." Yes, pilot interaction is required to interpret the ATC request and input it to the autopilot, but during this sort of situation the flight control surfaces are controlled at all times by the autopilot and only by the autopilot and "controlling the flight control surfaces" is what "flies the plane". During most commercial flights the human pilot does not directly control the flight control surfaces for most of the flight - takeoff and landing being good examples of when they do actually manually control the flight control surfaces. I wonder how long it will be before the AP manufacturers and the data link manufacturers figure out a way to send course and altitude instructions directly from ATC to the AP. This would eliminate the risk of pilots misunderstanding ATC instructions or entering them incorrectly into the AP, but it would also remove the "sanity check" that pilots should apply to ATC instructions.
Not sure where your comment about panicking passengers adjusting the AP comes from. Nowhere in this comment thread are passengers mentioned. I think we are all assuming the passengers are in the back and only pilots are in the cockpit.
this is why i love aviation cause i love the ride on take off and landing and even if something go wrong i have 100% confidence in pilots to know what they are doing.