Why is my STOEGER M3000 JAMMING??? (ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- I have finally figured out the reason why my shotgun kept jamming! Make sure to watch till the end, don't miss any crucial info!
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I think a lot of people assume the rust preservative is "oil" which is wrong. The preservative gels, gets sticky and impedes operation. I tell all my customers to completely clean their new weapons and use a REAL gun oil for lubrication during break in. Also, the Benelli M2 extractor & spring are a great fix for the M3000 with marginal ammo - I compete in 3-gun with the M3K.
Good to know. I sent mine back after 140 rounds of consistent failure to extract and not cycling. Stoeger found nothing wrong. After a thorough cleaning and lubricating I put another 200 rounds thru and it’s getting better but no cigar yet. Maybe switching out for Benelli parts will be my next plan. Thanks for the info
Hopefully stoeger watches this 4 everyone's sake thank you for the info.
Absolutely! Thanks so much for checking the video out! Have an amazing day!
I’ve shot exclusively Benelli semiautomatic shotguns the last 30 years. Biggest issue I’d have was slow action especially in the cold. It took me ten years but the First thing I learned is the Benelli oil that comes with the gun is no good for a lubricant. Take your Benelli and thoroughly scrub the action inside and out getting all. your old oil residue off the gun. Use warm water, Dawn dishwashing soap and a toothbrush and scrub thoroughly. Once everything is cleaned and completely dried reassemble and lube with only FP10 lubricant. I read that the military uses this when in arctic conditions on their AR’s. It’s cured all my cycling issues and I think I’ve owned nearly a dozen Benelli’s now. I’ve even taken quite a few of my friends Benelli’s after they where getting frustrated with their guns. They assured me they were clean. I’d say I doubt it and take the gun and clean and lube it like above. They can’t believe how much oil residue and dirt I get off the gun and how it resurrected their guns and made them cycle so much better and far more reliable.
Absolutely! This is a perfect description! Thank you!
Thank you!! This solved my issue. Just picked one of these up. I cleaned everything else but didn't think to clean the spring and the tube. You rock!
So happy we could help! Stay awesome my man! Happy hunting!
I've seen way too many of these videos. Everybody should know by now that when you buy a new gun. Strip it down Queen and lube it. It seems like most people think that slime they see is a lubricant. It's not it's a rust prohibitor for long term storage.
Agreed my man! Just trying my best to inform everyone. They should really have a piece of paper letting new gun owners know. Some people just weren’t lucky enough to be taught that.
If your jamming alot even after cleaning well, then replace the extractor and ejector and their springs. If you shoot alot they do wear out.
Sometimes cheap shells have dirty burning powder & isn't worth the money. Also just use a tiny bit of that white lithium grease in the grooves of the bolt & a very thin layer of this grease on your finger tip & thumb just to rub it on the internal & external parts like the springs, barrel etc. to keep them from rusting works well? Cheap powder & lube can make mud inside the gun really fast.
Great to know!! Thank you so much for the information! 👍🏻
What you noticed on the magazine tube from the factory is not lube at all. It is basically packing grease used to prevent rusting. The bolt, magazine tube, and general internals will have this heavy grease as the manufacturers don't know hoe long the guns will sit before being sold and in what conditions they will be stored in.
No matter what type of firearm or brand the first thing anybody who purchases a gun should do is break it down and clean all the grease off of it and lube the firearm. This is not a Stoeger issue this is user error and actually happens to the most expensive guns also.
Great to know!! Thank you!!
I have the M3020 i won it so... now its my my fav a lady from DU said to be sure and clean the shipping grease from the spring and tube and said it is on the turkish made models due to them being in shipping containers for weeks , and prevents rust etc . Its a protectant instead of a lubricant Mine works really well Mainly shoot Kent Bismuth
Thanks for commenting that because I’m going to order the Max-7 model tomorrow
What you're calling factory lubrication is actually factory preservative. It's just there to prevent rust prior to the sale of the gun.
Good to know!
3:06 re: lube it trash - the factory PRESERVATIVE is meant to protect gun in shipping and storage until sold - ALL of theta needs to come off-
I've done this fix and its been flawless ever since. To be honest I only changed the extractor and left the original spring because I wanted to test it. Never needed to order the spring so I'd say save the money and order the M2 extractor only.
does the M3500 have the same issue and will the M2 extractor work in the 3500 if needed?
Don’t personally own the 3500 but from what I’ve heard, yes
Remove the rotary head mechanism shackle pin of your rifle. It will not fit into place with the same precision and will shake in its bed. This is a design that should not be done in a firearm. It will never be a bad day rifle.
I know 3 gunners polish off the coating on the magazine tube under the spring and then cold bluing the bare metal afterwards. Have you seen or looked into that as a solution as well?
No I have not! But I will definitely look into that! Thanks for the information!
I just bought one to get into duck hunting only shot it when I went out grouse hunting but can't wait to go out on my first duck hunt here in wisconsin
But I have the black one
Nice man! Just make sure you follow the video on what to do, make sure to clean off all the old lubricant and put on new stuff! Goodluck hunting!
Mine came with a deer rifle barrel but I bought a additional bird barrel also. Put on the bird barrel in shot it n jam alot with winchester ammo. But doesn't jam on my sabot ammo on my deer riffle barrel
I’d try Migra, Kent, or fiochie
Just bought a new M3000. Havent shot it yet. You think I should clean the factory lube off straight away?
You should be fine for a little bit but to keep your gun in the best shape possible, I would clean it ASAP. It will work so much better once you clean it and lubricate it properly!
One of your problems is your shell tube should have a end cap in it.The spring shouldn't be riding against your screw on end cap
Lol 😂
Still need to figure how to take off the barrel I unscrew the mounting cap an that other nut what ever an it don't get loose
I’d take it to the local gun smith and ask him for a hand
On the top of the receiver where it's drilled and tapped there are plugs that protect the threads did your comes with some missing ?
I think the caps fell off. I use this gun really hard and sometimes use it as a paddle when floating rivers, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they fell off
My M3500 is doing the same
Yes! Make sure to do everything to make sure it stops jamming!
My gun don’t like heavy shot either bro
Yeah for some reason the shell always gets caught, I’d stay away from heavy shot and go with Migra or Remington
Has anyone ever shortened the stock on one of these? Length of pull is far too long for me.
They make a compact stock for them but 3 gunners cut them down.
@@redforbes yeah. I can't find a compact one in stock anywhere. Gonna cut the stock down. Just trying to figure out what size of "grind to fit" limbsaver recoil pad I need
@@josephparker2614 I’d cut it down but don’t take too much off. One inch makes a huge difference! Let me know if you need any help!
@@DropEmOutdoors I found some advice on getting it cut and was told to get a limbsaver grind to fit recoil pad out back on. But looking on their em website they have different sizes.
@@josephparker2614 awesome!! Glad to hear my man! Goodluck this season!
I took it apart , clean it, oil good change the ejector with the Benelli one . 2 3/4 shells Still not cycling loads of 1200fps. I tried slugs at 1500fps and cycles fine, even 1300fps 00 doesn't do good.
Trash for self defense.
Make sure to lubricate the shell ejector arm that grabs the shell, I had problems with this and that fixed it. I’d try to completely clean everything one more time and try light loads, if you haven’t shot over 200+ rounds I’d try that to try to break it in.
Now this gun was never fired and you probably right about the brake in period. I'm working on putting boxes of cheap Walmart 12s.
For the oil part , I got so much oil that I could fry pickles.
Thanks for your response.
I really like the gun.
Hahaha too much oil and lubricant can be a bad thing too, just make sure to get all the small moving parts! Let me know how it goes!
@@rafaelA9781for sure the break in period… i was pissed when my 600 dollar gun (stoeger) wasn’t cycling birdshot at all… even 3 inch #3 shot 1550fps was having trouble cycling, but after some reading and about 30-ish slugs and buckshot slammed through mine, and it hasnt malfunctioned once since then
I got the stoeger p3000 it jam a few times
Gotta clean and lubricate good!
What is that spring that flys outta there when u take the endcap off? Never seen that before, u sure it's even supposed to be in there, that might be your problem right there
It’s 100% supposed to be there, it feeds into your tube and keeps tension on the shells so it can properly feed the shells through it, without it it would not feed.
@@DropEmOutdoors ya but there is supposed to be a retainer holding that spring in, yours is either missing or lost, that mag tube spring shouldn't come flying out just because u take the cap off. Look at any cleaning video for any shotgun, pump action, semi auto m3000 doesn't matter. U never see that. That is not normal and not only that but your spring is damaged, it shouldn't be all bent like that
@@DropEmOutdoors think about when u put your 3round limiter in, u unscrew the cap, drop the limiter in and screw the cap right back on. Only takes a few seconds, no spring comes flying out. The plug's thin end passes thru the center of the mag tube while the broad end rests against the retainer. I'm surprised your gun feeds at all how it is. Probably need to see about ordering the parts u need to fix it, shouldn't be too expensive
@@shawnlaverty2378 You’re correct, that magazine tube spring should be captive.
@@shawnlaverty2378 that’s crazy 😂😂😂 I didn’t know that at all, gun didn’t jam all year for me, last year I had problems
What to choose for hunting stoeger m3000 camo max 5 or atta neo 12 stream ?
Camo Max 5 is what I have
@@DropEmOutdoors Hello, how many years have you had this weapon ? Do you use it for hunting? What problems were there?
@@user-eh2nu5qt5d have had it for 3 years. Not too many problems. Had a few times where it jammed up. That was because I didn’t lubricate it well enough and wasn’t using the correct type of shot. Watch the video I will tell you the problems I’ve had!
How’s your gun shoot in cold
Never had a problem. I hunted in -3 degrees and didn’t have a problem jamming.
Does this apply to p3000? I got a p3000 and have jamming issues
A lot of the basic parts, yes! Make sure it’s cleaned a lubed
@@DropEmOutdoors it was jamming right out of the box, I saw someone say the factory lube isn't good?
@@kentdavis4446I bought the m3500 and right out of the box i had feeding and cycling issues.
So my m3000 has a huge problem cycling low brass rounds. 00buck, slugs, no issues, but any lower brass bird shot it absolutely HATES. It fails to cycle about every other round honestly.
The only time I’ve ever had a problem with that, is when my gun is dirty and doesn’t have enough lubricant on it. Make sure to lubricate all the small moving pieces too
Have you broken it in with those slugs and buckshot?? Preferably 100-200 like the manual recommends, but it only took about 30 for me, and now it cycles everything flawlessly… i thought this whole “breaking in a semi shotgun” was bullshit, but i be damned if it hasn’t malfunctioned once with light loads since i shot those 30-ish slugs and buckshot through it
I actually ended up letting it go. Beforehand I'd gotten the low recoil spring. I ran into a great deal on a KSG, and sold my stogey to help fund the $650 I paid for the Kel Tek. I couldn't pass on that deal, and it'll shoot anything I throw in it..... 15 times lol. My wife however misses the m3000. Tbh if I go out for a longer session using anything #2 or bigger, I do too. The Stoeger was a joy to shoot. The KSG with bigger loads can make ya flinch, anticipating that punch in the shoulder. Regular practice is essential to prevent that. Not gonna lie, miss my stogey :( I'd buy it again for sure.
My m3500 won’t run migra 31/2 in. Stack loads. Crimp gets hung up every time on first shot. Tried a ported and non ported choke with same results. My friends m3500 cycles them no problem…. Frustrating after spending 300$ on a case
I can load it right up with 3in federal, 31/2 in super x , 3/12 in kent fast steel.
Cycles no problem
I would make sure your gun is lubricated properly. Take off all factory “lube” and strip it completely down. There are small moving pieces that need proper lubrication. Hope this helps!
It’s not your gun it’s all Stoeger semi autos
Yessir they all have their problems. Just hope I could help some people figure it out! Have a great day!
My 3500 wouldn't cycle lighter loads. Pulled the weight and never had any more issues
Great to know!
What do you mean, "pulled the weight?"
@@ernestoa.alcala7081 I personally don’t own the m3500 so I’m not sure. I’d look it up and see if that’s even a thing lol. Would love to know more!
There's a cylindrical weight screwed in inside the buttstock, the "recoil reducer". You can unscrew it and take it out; it often improves cycling because the gun reloads from the kickback (inertia) and a lighter gun kicks back faster.
@@snowypit Great to know!! Thanks!
This spring is the weakest recoil spring you can make. I have seen carburetor return springs made better. It’s not just the spring, don’t buy these guns they are trash.