My man made a 30-minute video about mini speed squares 😂😂😂 and I'm gonna sit down to watch it like a movie 🤣🤣🤣 Top quality content as always. There aren't many places you can find this depth of discussion. I love the long form content, and you're great at it!!!
Swanson is the OG. 👍 “Albert J. Swanson invented the A Speed Square in 1925 as a carpenter's layout tool. He later founded Swanson Tool Company to produce it.[3] Today, Swanson Tool Company still manufactures and distributes the Speed Square and other carpentry tools from its headquarters in Frankfort, Illinois.” - “Speed square” entry on Wikipedia
@@MORGANSMaintenance The first speed square I bought was a Swanson, because I like to use tools from the original manufacturer, if I can. I figure the 4” trim square and 12” rafter square are just derivatives of the original 7” speed square. Kind of like having 6”, 8”, and 10” adjustable Bahco wrenches or 6”, 8”, and 10” Channellock tongue and groove pliers. And thanks for making the video. I definitely learned some stuff, which should come in handy during my home renovation I’ll be starting this fall.
Thanks for the vid. I used Milwaukee's little square for a long time. I lost it, then bought the Thorvald 6-in-1 Carpenter Square because it has 16ths with pencil holes for each. I can put a sharpened Hultafors or Ox pencil in the holes. So far, so good.
Great video! I just recently bought the smart square. The selling point for me is that it has the ability to lay completely flat. It also has multiple levels and lots of scribe points. Its definitely worth a look.
I have the Milwaukee and I like it. . But the Swanson for the price is far superior . Also Swanson has the little diamond window . Great for birds beak cut. Not that you would use the small square for that but it's a nice have that feature. Thanks Morgan
@@2121contreras yeah some of the features on the smaller ones.. are nice, but. It sure how usable when you typically use bigger materials for most of those things. 👍👍
i Just picked up the Sunflprod and I am super happy with it. I like the fit and finish the case is a plus I guess. But I was impressed when I got it. I like using small squares when I do coil trim around windows, doors etc, when installing siding. Love the video like always....
@@landmarkconstruction it was a better than I expected item to me too. For the price if I bought a gauge, step block set, and square… it’s a good price
I have the Milwaukee and I basically only ever use it for drawing square lines on studs when laying out box heights BUT if I were to lose it or something I would replace it with the Swanson. Don’t see myself using the finer features all that much but good to know they are there.
@@BradNeumyer I have used both of them for quite some time and the get the job done for sure. I do like the Swanson a little better for how I use them.
Great Video Joey! And great comments in here Community! I’ve had the full size Swanson Speed Square for going on 35 years, and it is still goin strong. I also have a very useful 12” ‘Speed Square’ made by Empire. And I also bought and tried out both of the Milwaukee squares. I like the trim square featured here, as It will fit in small spaces in order to check that framing, etc is correct. IMO the winner here is the Swanson, for the average DIY’r or Handyman, or Carpenter. The Sunilfprod, or w/e it is called 🙄 would make sense for a woodworker, as Joey pointed out. The Martinez; well, it is almost information overload! Lotta features, obviously well made and high quality, as it should be for the price it sells for. For someone doing high end trim work, or custom made cabinetry, etc, it might pay for itself in the long run. I think I will look into the Swanson ‘Trim Square,’ and maybe the iflyloprod? 😆 ( I’m a sucker for a nice case! ) Another really good video Joey. I’m at a loss for anything clever? Guess I’m just too square? 👍🙏😆
@@georgedavall9449 you came in at the end 😂 I think the Swanson is the winner for the majority of people also… the Martinez is super nice, but it was a wife gift for me. She has to get me things she knows I want, but might not would buy myself… since I go ahead and buy everything else 😂
For everyday normal, mundane, money bringing jobs - Swanson. For social media influencing and getting grouppies (I'm not sure how that works, bit you all can try) - Martinez. For subsidizing overseas companies - Milwaukee. Excellent comparison and review.
Agree with all that… except I’m not sure I’ll get groupies 😂 My wife bought me the Martinez because she knew it was something low on my list to buy and try because of price… but I do like it.
23:34 A few years ago asked martinez if they could put a level in the micro squareand a lady replied with it wouldnt make sense to put it in the small square. Years later its there. Blade is to thin to use as a small square guide.
Stiletto now has a micro square as well, but I think TrigJig is making the best small trim squares these days. I really like their 4.5" trim square, but I really, really want their PSQ7 "Pocket Square". I think it has a number of advantages over full size rafter squares and trim-size squares. It's much more compact than the former, and it's much more useful than the latter. See, trim squares have the major disadvantage of being too short for many of the marking and layout tasks that a trim carpenters need to do. They can't square all the way across many trims, including baseboard, nickel gap, tongue and groove, etc, so it makes marking tasks harder or impossible. The PSQ7 could do much more, plus it has 1/32" scribes (overkill, probably, and only useable with small pencil leads) and it would fit in much smaller tool belt pouches. Out of stock at the moment, and pricey, but I do want.
Oh by I'm a big trim square fan myself. I have a fancy stellto(gift from the ms's and it has a level in it) smart square (which are fantastic) the expendable ones cressent/husky. Thies are my 7in ones which don't get as much use as thoes little trim squares! We have a ton of thoes milwaukee squares around the jobsite because they come in a 2 pack with a 7in for 15 bucks around holiday. No one us sad when one gets killed or used as a shim at the 7 dollar price point. The one that gets use on nice woodwork the most is igaging bench square since it requires a mechanical pencil stainless steel and alot more affordable than woodpeckers. I do suggest if you want a fancy square bench square at under 50 dollars is a fantastic buy(stainless steel feels great 👍). If your one of thoes support small companies people DFM though woodworking oriented is made in the usa and really solid square with unique features that are actually useful. Plenty if suggestions here look up a few of them all on az by the way. Thanks for the tour and the squares the wife buys you is the most treasured and the one you are sadest about loosing. Mine is engraved by a local trophy shop with a personal nickname "hint" to the signicant others who want to get a special gift for thoes who have too many tools already.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn my wife actually bought me the Martinez as a present also… I had wanted one for awhile, but the $99 was steep. It is a nice square though.
Nothing wrong with a nice gift that would wouldn't buy for yourself. If I had to choose I'd spend up to ti at that price go all the way! I like my stellto square with the level in it and thr only reason it dosent get more use is it's size if it was trim size I'd be more use. Thanks for making the woman drain her pocket book maybe? Another brand that works well I don't own but I can see martinez quality is trigjig which are 75 dollars but immaculate quality.
I got a 6 inch thats called old mans speed square.. its got a flat with a catch like they all do, got marks and ticks for 45’s, 30’s, 2x marks and a bottle opener.. which doubles as a nail puller.. made out of titanium i think because its hard as hell but light and hasent broken in the 2 generations its been alive. Grandpa passed it down to my dad and my dad gave it to me. Well i took it when he got too old to mess around in the shop anymore. Id give it to my son but aint gonna get to have me any before i die. Which sucks because the whole blood line ends with me.. is how life goes sometimes. But ive used the damn thing as a string throwing weight to chuck a line down a couple fifty yards..
@Kenny-mg1ls For a lot of people that’s probably true…I don’t know why would I need 7” to go across a 3-1/2” 2x4? I typically do commercial interior wood and metal stud framing, so it’s all I need. I usually cant build walls and stand them up, so Im not marking two plates at once, and am often building a wall in front of block walls and I can’t use a 7” square, it’s too long. Just depends on what you do and how you do it. All tools have different uses in the hands of someone else.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn that’s what my wife said when she got the notification… 30 MINUTES! I said I had to cover it all… if I don’t, I just have to answer questions that are hard to put into words 😂
My man made a 30-minute video about mini speed squares 😂😂😂 and I'm gonna sit down to watch it like a movie 🤣🤣🤣
Top quality content as always. There aren't many places you can find this depth of discussion. I love the long form content, and you're great at it!!!
@@LuminairPrime Appreciate it 👍👍
Sometimes time gets away from me 😂
Swanson is the OG. 👍
“Albert J. Swanson invented the A Speed Square in 1925 as a carpenter's layout tool. He later founded Swanson Tool Company to produce it.[3] Today, Swanson Tool Company still manufactures and distributes the Speed Square and other carpentry tools from its headquarters in Frankfort, Illinois.” - “Speed square” entry on Wikipedia
@@k1_w3 yeah their 7”
Speed squares I had had forever, I wasn’t sure about the trim square
@@MORGANSMaintenance The first speed square I bought was a Swanson, because I like to use tools from the original manufacturer, if I can. I figure the 4” trim square and 12” rafter square are just derivatives of the original 7” speed square. Kind of like having 6”, 8”, and 10” adjustable Bahco wrenches or 6”, 8”, and 10” Channellock tongue and groove pliers.
And thanks for making the video. I definitely learned some stuff, which should come in handy during my home renovation I’ll be starting this fall.
@@k1_w3 👍👍… go with the OG when you have the chance
Perfect timing as I just received my Swanson trim square 😂
I think it’s the best bang for your buck.. been using it awhile 👍
Great video, thanks for making it. I was just thinking about the Swanson recently.
@@projectpinehills 👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance Swanson is the way to go for the average person walking into a hardware store that wants to buy a good speed square.
@@projectpinehills that and the little book you get with it is a big help if you haven’t used one much.
Thanks for the vid. I used Milwaukee's little square for a long time. I lost it, then bought the Thorvald 6-in-1 Carpenter Square because it has 16ths with pencil holes for each. I can put a sharpened Hultafors or Ox pencil in the holes. So far, so good.
@@ggrimm79 👍👍… I will check that one out. I don’t use a bigger square often anymore, but I still do occasionally
Very nice; I learned things today!
@@OnusBones 👍👍
Great video! I just recently bought the smart square. The selling point for me is that it has the ability to lay completely flat. It also has multiple levels and lots of scribe points. Its definitely worth a look.
@@Cavett24 I will look it up 👍
@MORGANSMaintenance Awesome! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, compared to your others. Let me know what you think.
I have the Milwaukee and I like it. . But the Swanson for the price is far superior . Also Swanson has the little diamond window . Great for birds beak cut. Not that you would use the small square for that but it's a nice have that feature. Thanks Morgan
@@2121contreras yeah some of the features on the smaller ones.. are nice, but. It sure how usable when you typically use bigger materials for most of those things.
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i Just picked up the Sunflprod and I am super happy with it. I like the fit and finish the case is a plus I guess. But I was impressed when I got it. I like using small squares when I do coil trim around windows, doors etc, when installing siding. Love the video like always....
@@landmarkconstruction it was a better than I expected item to me too. For the price if I bought a gauge, step block set, and square… it’s a good price
I have the Milwaukee and I basically only ever use it for drawing square lines on studs when laying out box heights BUT if I were to lose it or something I would replace it with the Swanson. Don’t see myself using the finer features all that much but good to know they are there.
@@BradNeumyer I have used both of them for quite some time and the get the job done for sure. I do like the Swanson a little better for how I use them.
Great Video Joey! And great comments in here Community!
I’ve had the full size Swanson Speed Square for going on 35 years, and it is still goin strong. I also have a very useful 12” ‘Speed Square’ made by Empire. And I also bought and tried out both of the Milwaukee squares. I like the trim square featured here, as It will fit in small spaces in order to check that framing, etc is correct.
IMO the winner here is the Swanson, for the average DIY’r or Handyman, or Carpenter. The Sunilfprod, or w/e it is called 🙄 would make sense for a woodworker, as Joey pointed out. The Martinez; well, it is almost information overload! Lotta features, obviously well made and high quality, as it should be for the price it sells for. For someone doing high end trim work, or custom made cabinetry, etc, it might pay for itself in the long run.
I think I will look into the Swanson ‘Trim Square,’ and maybe the iflyloprod? 😆 ( I’m a sucker for a nice case! ) Another really good video Joey. I’m at a loss for anything clever? Guess I’m just too square? 👍🙏😆
@@georgedavall9449 you came in at the end 😂
I think the Swanson is the winner for the majority of people also… the Martinez is super nice, but it was a wife gift for me. She has to get me things she knows I want, but might not would buy myself… since I go ahead and buy everything else 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance 😆👍
I wonder if the angle stop on the blue one would help you center the drill hole without it teetering. Great video!
@@ky4442 possibly, I will check that out. There has to be something I’m missing with that (I may want to read the book 😂)
Lil bitty squares! While watching the vide, I looked up to the pegboard, and there hanging is my trusty 30ish year-old Swanson 7" speed square!
@@ElectroAtletico I’ve got a pretty old one myself in the 7”
For everyday normal, mundane, money bringing jobs - Swanson.
For social media influencing and getting grouppies (I'm not sure how that works, bit you all can try) - Martinez.
For subsidizing overseas companies - Milwaukee.
Excellent comparison and review.
Agree with all that… except I’m not sure I’ll get groupies 😂
My wife bought me the Martinez because she knew it was something low on my list to buy and try because of price… but I do like it.
They're all nice, especially the Martinez, but the Swanson is so basic in a very good way and the most inexpensive to boot.
@@Neto-1984 I feel like Swanson is definitely best bang for the buck 👍
23:34 A few years ago asked martinez if they could put a level in the micro squareand a lady replied with it wouldnt make sense to put it in the small square. Years later its there. Blade is to thin to use as a small square guide.
@@kaipo8489 they just didn’t want to give you any credit 😂 I think it’s a nice feature.
Stiletto now has a micro square as well, but I think TrigJig is making the best small trim squares these days. I really like their 4.5" trim square, but I really, really want their PSQ7 "Pocket Square". I think it has a number of advantages over full size rafter squares and trim-size squares. It's much more compact than the former, and it's much more useful than the latter. See, trim squares have the major disadvantage of being too short for many of the marking and layout tasks that a trim carpenters need to do. They can't square all the way across many trims, including baseboard, nickel gap, tongue and groove, etc, so it makes marking tasks harder or impossible. The PSQ7 could do much more, plus it has 1/32" scribes (overkill, probably, and only useable with small pencil leads) and it would fit in much smaller tool belt pouches. Out of stock at the moment, and pricey, but I do want.
I had looked at Trig Jig, but missed that one. I will look it up. Thanks for putting it on my radar 👍
Oh by I'm a big trim square fan myself. I have a fancy stellto(gift from the ms's and it has a level in it) smart square (which are fantastic) the expendable ones cressent/husky. Thies are my 7in ones which don't get as much use as thoes little trim squares! We have a ton of thoes milwaukee squares around the jobsite because they come in a 2 pack with a 7in for 15 bucks around holiday. No one us sad when one gets killed or used as a shim at the 7 dollar price point. The one that gets use on nice woodwork the most is igaging bench square since it requires a mechanical pencil stainless steel and alot more affordable than woodpeckers. I do suggest if you want a fancy square bench square at under 50 dollars is a fantastic buy(stainless steel feels great 👍). If your one of thoes support small companies people DFM though woodworking oriented is made in the usa and really solid square with unique features that are actually useful. Plenty if suggestions here look up a few of them all on az by the way. Thanks for the tour and the squares the wife buys you is the most treasured and the one you are sadest about loosing. Mine is engraved by a local trophy shop with a personal nickname "hint" to the signicant others who want to get a special gift for thoes who have too many tools already.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn my wife actually bought me the Martinez as a present also… I had wanted one for awhile, but the $99 was steep. It is a nice square though.
Nothing wrong with a nice gift that would wouldn't buy for yourself. If I had to choose I'd spend up to ti at that price go all the way! I like my stellto square with the level in it and thr only reason it dosent get more use is it's size if it was trim size I'd be more use. Thanks for making the woman drain her pocket book maybe? Another brand that works well I don't own but I can see martinez quality is trigjig which are 75 dollars but immaculate quality.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn I had been looking at theirs too. They also have some nice looking angle finders
I’m sure you will see that magnetic attachment in a few years when you get around to a deep clean in your shop 😎
@@nachoisme 😂.. probably so. It does stay on surprisingly well, but I can see that
Swanson came out with it first!!!!!
@@leonardpaciora5039 👍👍. Then I feel even worse about the Milwaukee. I thought they started the trim square and Swanson Improved it 😂
@MORGANSMaintenance Swanson was the inventor of the Speed square, and they have been improving it ever since!
I got a 6 inch thats called old mans speed square.. its got a flat with a catch like they all do, got marks and ticks for 45’s, 30’s, 2x marks and a bottle opener.. which doubles as a nail puller.. made out of titanium i think because its hard as hell but light and hasent broken in the 2 generations its been alive. Grandpa passed it down to my dad and my dad gave it to me. Well i took it when he got too old to mess around in the shop anymore. Id give it to my son but aint gonna get to have me any before i die. Which sucks because the whole blood line ends with me.. is how life goes sometimes. But ive used the damn thing as a string throwing weight to chuck a line down a couple fifty yards..
@@Z-Ack I had never heard of that one… sounds like a pretty good one. Will do some searching and see if I come across one
To be fair you shouldn't be doing framing layout with a trim square
@Kenny-mg1ls For a lot of people that’s probably true…I don’t know why would I need 7” to go across a 3-1/2” 2x4?
I typically do commercial interior wood and metal stud framing, so it’s all I need.
I usually cant build walls and stand them up, so Im not marking two plates at once, and am often building a wall in front of block walls and I can’t use a 7” square, it’s too long.
Just depends on what you do and how you do it. All tools have different uses in the hands of someone else.
30 minutes talking about speed squares wives are bored 😴 all around the world. Your officially a dad when you can talk about a subject that long! 😆 🤣
@@MattHmm-rq6dn that’s what my wife said when she got the notification… 30 MINUTES!
I said I had to cover it all… if I don’t, I just have to answer questions that are hard to put into words 😂