Undercover CIA Websites Got Informants Killed

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    0:00 Intro
    0:12 Strange CIA Websites Got Informants Killed
    3:30 ATM Card Skimmers Are Evolving
    6:19 North Korean Hackers’ New Recruitment Scam
    9:03 PlexTrac
    9:44 Outro
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    web.archive.org/web/201102020...
    www.reuters.com/investigates/...
    citizenlab.ca/2022/09/stateme...
    news.yahoo.com/cias-communica...
    krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/s...
    www.mastercard.com/news/persp...
    securityaffairs.co/wordpress/...
    www.mandiant.com/resources/bl...
    thehackernews.com/2022/09/nor...
    www.bleepingcomputer.com/news...
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    www.bleepingcomputer.com/news...
    www.theregister.com/2022/09/3...
    www.microsoft.com/security/bl...
    arstechnica.com/information-t...
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  • @inkeys6244
    @inkeys6244 ปีที่แล้ว +1743

    CIA informant websites look straight out of GTA lmao

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +150

      Haha, you have a point

    • @KokoroKatsura
      @KokoroKatsura ปีที่แล้ว +24

      a n i m e
      n
      i
      m
      e

    • @Hyoct
      @Hyoct ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi tomoko

    • @Admiral_Jezza
      @Admiral_Jezza ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tomoko moment

    • @bozigga
      @bozigga ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@KokoroKatsura a n i m e
      n
      i
      m
      e m i n e m

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 ปีที่แล้ว +3151

    Those sites look so strangely real. It's funny to imagine someone doing these at the CIA and showing it to their boss like it was a school project. And to think bad HTML could get someone un-alive'd.

    • @blinking_dodo
      @blinking_dodo ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish i could have been the one who found this...
      It would have been fun to sell out those spies to China/Russia/Iran.
      Then i could legit say "I caught a spy" 😄

    • @cabir.bin.hayyan.800
      @cabir.bin.hayyan.800 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Aliven't

    • @kenosabi
      @kenosabi ปีที่แล้ว +47

      "deleted"

    • @ogcoolg
      @ogcoolg ปีที่แล้ว +25

      game ended

    • @danielelombardo8196
      @danielelombardo8196 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Flatlined

  • @reinoob
    @reinoob ปีที่แล้ว +708

    My dad worked for years at a bank and he said that the best way to avoid bad ATMs is to not use them if you suspect the tinyest thing. Normally those are more wobbly, the keyboard and card slot feel out of place, and other things.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin ปีที่แล้ว +28

      So you need a 'feeling' to not be scammed

    • @reinoob
      @reinoob ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@drowningin you just have to wiggle things around to see if everything is placed well

    • @leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget
      @leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or just dgaf Because the bank will refund it anyway

    • @TheDoctorsGaming101
      @TheDoctorsGaming101 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget could take a while and if it’s a debit card you could be out of your money for a while. If you always use a credit card especially if it’s a major credit card company you’ll be completely fine. Since most of them make it extremely easy to dispute and instantly lock the money from the disputed transaction from having to be paid, and stop charging any interest until it’s solved.

    • @pickelsvx
      @pickelsvx ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheDoctorsGaming101 That's only because in that situation it's not your money that was stolen its the credit card company's money.

  • @joshuabryant9845
    @joshuabryant9845 ปีที่แล้ว +1742

    The cia is just a gift that keeps on giving. Their level of incompetence is crazy

    • @colin4tor781
      @colin4tor781 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Like i could do a better job with 2 cans and miles of string

    • @Greg-yu4ij
      @Greg-yu4ij ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do think we are being taken out by socialism now? The cia, fbi, etc are too busy looking inward, by design.

    • @vyros.3234
      @vyros.3234 ปีที่แล้ว

      In reality though the CIA is very effective but no intelligence agency is perfect.

    • @AndrewKidd14145
      @AndrewKidd14145 ปีที่แล้ว

      All those government forces are meathead

    • @hollister2320
      @hollister2320 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colin4tor781 no tf you wouldn’t, you only ever hear about stories they want you to hear. Most OPs that (for example) topple governments aren’t widely reported. Ask the Russians what they think of the CIA, and who blew up their “well-guarded” gas pipeline😅

  • @tHe0nLyNeXuS
    @tHe0nLyNeXuS ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Here in South Korea all ATMs have ditched physical keypads for touch screens, and they also draw random gibberish on the screen every time a key is pressed. It should at least be somewhat harder to fake that...

    • @EmM-ko7mu
      @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you have to hide the entire screen now?

    • @tHe0nLyNeXuS
      @tHe0nLyNeXuS ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@EmM-ko7mu Yes, but it is not as hard has you would think: and I find it definitely better than a physical keypad.

    • @jmd489
      @jmd489 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@tHe0nLyNeXuS could they not just install those privacy screens that obscure the screen if you are viewing it from the side?

    • @tHe0nLyNeXuS
      @tHe0nLyNeXuS ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@jmd489 They definitely could and probably have... I'll double check next time I stop at one (not much use for cash these days).

    • @Yadobler
      @Yadobler ปีที่แล้ว +25

      In Singapore all atm number pads come by default with a diffused glass that covers the pad. You need to lift it a bit and insert your hand inside and type the pin. So it hinders cameras, and it's very bulky that you can't slap a decoy pad over unless you physically saw the glass panel out

  • @MemesnShet
    @MemesnShet ปีที่แล้ว +716

    You can always damage the stripe and just use the chip or have two cards: One with a damaged stripe for atms and one normal

    • @kantraa
      @kantraa ปีที่แล้ว +29

      that's smart actually. i never thought of that

    • @jameswalker199
      @jameswalker199 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      I've rubbed a big magnet over the stripe on my card because its so rarely used in my country. In fact, the first time I used the stripe was in a gift shop in York, where the cashier literally snatched my card off of me and started hurriedly rubbing the card down the side of the machine multiple times. It didn't work because of the aforementioned magnet abuse, and I'm kind of glad it didn't because they just seemed to be acting really weird and frantic with my card.

    • @officer_baitlyn
      @officer_baitlyn ปีที่แล้ว +33

      my exact thoughts
      i had to doublecheck whether or not my card even had a stripe on it
      i havent used the stripe once in the last 5 years i guess its magnet time

    • @Aeduo
      @Aeduo ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I do find at around 2 years the chip can become unreliable and the terminal will have you swipe if it fails too many times.

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Aeduo the chip is a POS and wears out very easily

  • @SpukiTheLoveKitten75
    @SpukiTheLoveKitten75 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Lesson learned: If you're the CIA, hire some young blood who know what the heck they're doing.

    • @PrestigiousInferno
      @PrestigiousInferno ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Hypermanne so edgy 🙄🤡

    • @samu5167
      @samu5167 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Hypermanne Depends on which side you are.

    • @hjertrudfiddlecock4394
      @hjertrudfiddlecock4394 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PrestigiousInferno the CIA is a fucking gang and you know it, overthrowing democratically elected leaders, trafficking drugs and murdering civilians.

    • @luckyluchiano72
      @luckyluchiano72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GorzaGunner sure if you believe in terrorism and execution for wanting a better life then it’s great.. id argue 99999.9% of people disagree however

  • @EmM-ko7mu
    @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +362

    5:57 You can use a heat camera super far away from the atm to see all the right numbers. Works surprisingly well especially with the metal buttons so covering up the keypad doesn't help much. Theres just no winning.

    • @the_rippah
      @the_rippah ปีที่แล้ว +8

      how would you know.........
      jk

    • @underjord.
      @underjord. ปีที่แล้ว +105

      So rest your fingers on all buttons?

    • @EmM-ko7mu
      @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@the_rippah shhhhhh

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aerogel stylus?

    • @EmM-ko7mu
      @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@underjord. but will you actually start doing that each time?

  • @meantcabbage711
    @meantcabbage711 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Honestly kinda embarrassing how the CIA got those informants killed. I would assume the guy they hired to setup the websites would think that all the websites they created would easily be linked together. Unless the CIA didn’t tell them it was a operation so it didn’t matter if they got lazy. But still a avoidable situation.

    • @zeppelins4ever
      @zeppelins4ever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The CIA has A LOT of compartmentalization. I genuinely would not be surprised if the fact that it was a secure, life-or-death operation didn't get communicated.

    • @aaaaaa-hh8cq
      @aaaaaa-hh8cq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Iranian here. kinda sad CIA failed them. after all they were fighting an extremely religious dictatorship in Iran.
      and I mean, they hosted several websites on 1 server .. like, common.. a 5 year old kid will be able to find out about it pretty easily

    • @marcuswagner1396
      @marcuswagner1396 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glowing

    • @emily1
      @emily1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      glowies are called glowies.. for a reason

  • @vincentgarzoli3197
    @vincentgarzoli3197 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    A security company should come up with a drone card that has the sole purpose of testing the reader to alert the user if there is a phony skimmer inside of the legit reader before they insert their real credit or debit card.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      There are many, but none actually work, and a few risk charges just by using them. Nevermind looking sus usin em, people will think you planted it.
      Your CC company is liable for the loss from their terrible security, not you. Keep a couple accounts and live life.

    • @bigsmall246
      @bigsmall246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ATM might eat the card though

    • @yoursleepparalysisdemon1828
      @yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how would it know?

    • @luckyluchiano72
      @luckyluchiano72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828um basic detection of foreign software? the atm should do 1 thing when u insert the card and thats not store your info lol

  • @roxjeruben
    @roxjeruben ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The skimmer part is easy to counter attack, simply don't have any money that can be stolen.

  • @punisherpr
    @punisherpr ปีที่แล้ว +132

    So there is a device made by Electronic Cats called Hunter Cat which checks atms for magnetic card skimmers. That might work for those ultra slim skimmers.

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I didn't know about that, thanks for the heads up!

    • @DFPercush
      @DFPercush ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That's a cool gadget! I wonder if the atm would try to eat it though. A lot of them pull the card all the way into an internal chamber and lock on to them. I hope that wouldn't break it in half or anything. The machine might need to see a valid signal first before it "ingests" the card, because if you put the card in the wrong way it often just doesn't go in all the way. I'd like to see someone experiment with that. It would be a nice accessory to carry around to check before you swipe.

  • @fractal4284
    @fractal4284 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    I served five years. For credit card debit card fraud and wire fraud.
    Getting caught was the best thing that happened to me.
    Now, I have a very good job. Working to protect people.
    From this type of thing.
    Even back when I was doing it. We had skimmers.
    That automatically sent us the data.
    4G cellular service. But those units we had then were easily findable Once.
    The gas pump was opened up.
    The skimmer was in the inside but it was obvious. Once you opened it up,
    So, you had limited time...

    • @rune.theocracy
      @rune.theocracy ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Interesting, may I ask who you work for now? I'm guessing it's some form of law enforcement agency.

    • @miresoman1769
      @miresoman1769 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well , I too would like to listen more.

    • @nathanhiggers7186
      @nathanhiggers7186 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      When you were incarcerated, did law enforcement cut you a deal on your sentence in exchange for making use of your technical ability? I often hear that they tend to do that for those arrested under computer fraud charges.

    • @bootsie5396
      @bootsie5396 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i got wrapped for it a few years ago but since i was only a minor i got a slap on the wrist. my method was to have my phone face down on the counter recording at my cashier job. So when people handed me the piece id give it a quick flip for the phone and then swipe it. it was too ez 😂

    • @jhoserman4221
      @jhoserman4221 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same thing happened to my dude Tyler. Some people are just too smart and it gets them into trouble.

  • @kolinmartz
    @kolinmartz ปีที่แล้ว +109

    The whole time I’ve lived here in the US I have never used the magnetic stripe at all anywhere. Most scanners won’t even let you use a magnetic stripe at all if you have a chip card. Learned that frustratingly when I scratched up and damaged the chip on my card once.

    • @JakeAllen3
      @JakeAllen3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol same I have to insert my non-working chip 3x before it lets me swipe

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JakeAllen3 oh it never lets me swipe.

  • @madmaxthrax2964
    @madmaxthrax2964 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Man I learned more from this video than I have in awhile; cheers for the top-level research, editing, and execution

  • @abdoulcool1
    @abdoulcool1 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Love your content, Keep coming out with the news!

    • @abdoulcool1
      @abdoulcool1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also your info on the deep insert is a little off, they've been out for years and have been found used in many places.

  • @Trekeyus
    @Trekeyus ปีที่แล้ว +41

    That ATM hack is kind of scary. sounds like a good reason to get a Hunter Cat magnetic stripe head detector

    • @MelaninMagdalene
      @MelaninMagdalene ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Teach me how to hack myself 😂

    • @johm0151
      @johm0151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yea nowadays they are doing it through the ev chips on the card

    • @ryangosling6651
      @ryangosling6651 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MelaninMagdalene think.

  • @kellyshea92
    @kellyshea92 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dismantle the CIA and scatter the ashes in the wind.

  • @jkfdkjjd
    @jkfdkjjd ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I remember this being reported a few years ago. The reuters article might be more in depth or something but this was definitely in the news a while ago.

  • @45678213914284289421
    @45678213914284289421 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've peeled of magnetic stripe from my cards, they are working fine and I'm not planing to visit third world countries.

    • @EmM-ko7mu
      @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      _Calls America a third world country_ 😂

  • @sgt-Badger
    @sgt-Badger ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your videos are best

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks : )

  • @basementcat5618
    @basementcat5618 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They looked like website templates from the 80s. Without significant web traffic there is nowhere to hide.

  • @sozzysucks
    @sozzysucks ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always, thanks again Seytonic.

  • @hamidrezabokharaei5779
    @hamidrezabokharaei5779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful mate thanks! Didn't know about ATM Skimmers!

  • @vincere_
    @vincere_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    1:06 Anthony Horrowitz wrote about these sorts of sites in one of his spy novels, albeit it was in the form of a strangely-modified Ebay webpage.

  • @Astroqualia
    @Astroqualia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First video i seen of your channel, this is fascinating.

  • @glass1258
    @glass1258 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    CIA should just work out a communication system that can be worked out using random TH-cam videos comment sections.

    • @logmeindog
      @logmeindog ปีที่แล้ว +41

      They already have.

    • @ivoxii
      @ivoxii ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@logmeindog can confirm

    • @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X
      @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X ปีที่แล้ว

      johntron iss CIA for sure

    • @dickdiamonds3410
      @dickdiamonds3410 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Glowing

    • @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X
      @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dickdiamonds3410 he's not a. Fed just usefull dummy

  • @no-vs3sb
    @no-vs3sb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ironically enough, when i was a kid, during one of my tech classes, i decided to punch in some random IP finding a website that resembles exactly what you were talking about.

  • @Brurgh
    @Brurgh ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i've noticed recently that in Spanish ATM machines you can use contactless to withdraw cash. instead of inserting then card you put it next to the contactless reader and then insert the pin. The negates inserting you card into anything.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A camera can often catch yoiur cards details written on it AND the pin. Keep em both covered or this offers no additional security. Not even gonna mention that contactless skimming has been a thing for over a decade, with devices available for purchase, and cheap!

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NAB bank in australia has ATMs like this too, tap your card on the reader, except you don't give your card's pin, instead it sends a one-time code to your phone.

  • @SacredPhysiques
    @SacredPhysiques ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great episode !!

  • @kek207
    @kek207 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Arrest of North Korean Hackers". That surely sounds like a thing that works

  • @DGTelevsionNetwork
    @DGTelevsionNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another terrifying thing about a lot of cia websites that look better is that they will put a corporate address in somewhere like a TSA field office or some other government building.

  • @luceerobertson5904
    @luceerobertson5904 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad I found ur channel ur content is just so interesting, and way you put it into a vid is amazing compared to channels covering similar topics

  • @slendi9623
    @slendi9623 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    cia moment

  • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
    @user-sf9gs2pg1b ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:49 The Bob Marley fan page one may have been a CIA website, but whoever made that, I can’t help but feel like they actually were a Bob Marley fan and put their all into it. That’s cute.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn't think about the fact that skimmers use the magnetic stripe. In my country it's literally never used, I guess it's big magnet on credit card time

  • @nicholasl.4330
    @nicholasl.4330 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heading to NYC in a few weeks with a group of people. I'm glad I saw this today

  • @keatonhatch6213
    @keatonhatch6213 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in rural America and I literally haven’t used anything other than a chip reader for the last 5 years. Who’s still using the swipe?

  • @rajupaikrao3396
    @rajupaikrao3396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video helped me. thanks

  • @NickC_222
    @NickC_222 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Those ultra-thin skimmers are in use elsewhere. Similar card-slot skimmers been found in Santa Barbara as well, and since they're not a secret, they'll become the new norm soon enough.

  • @etopowertwon
    @etopowertwon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some ATMs where I live(Russia) are already non-contact now. I.e. you don't need to insert card into the slot. Pretty dope for my paranoid mind.

  • @alfiegordon9013
    @alfiegordon9013 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fed makes "worst webapp ever"
    Asked to leave Central Intelligence Agency

    • @furinick
      @furinick ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "federal agent made horrible website, this is what happened to his head"

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Committed suicide via two gunshots to the back of the head"

  • @h_beserra
    @h_beserra ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The card's problem is relatively easy to prevent, scrape the magnetic stripe in your card, but if you never use it like in new york.

  • @FitraRahim
    @FitraRahim ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Russia, China, Iran Spies: Bad impression
    US spies: Good impression

    • @MelaninMagdalene
      @MelaninMagdalene ปีที่แล้ว

      Art of war tells us all spies are expendable

  • @MBMb-dl1em
    @MBMb-dl1em ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello world…. Nice, subbed

  • @hypnotico7051
    @hypnotico7051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My foolproof plan for beating card skimmers, only using the credit card. Been doing it for years and it's been working out so far.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, best way to pay for anything really. Debit cards are terrible. If you're paying interest, you're clearly doing something wrong. You wouldn't pay interest on debit, absolutely no reason you should credit regardless of APR.

  • @chugachuga9242
    @chugachuga9242 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This would probably cause more problems than it solves but what if the the ATMs were made out of some really strong transparent material so that you could be able to see if there are any of these malicious modifications made to the ATM.

  • @armoredchimp
    @armoredchimp ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly astounding levels of incompetence

  • @s.h.i.e.l.d5893
    @s.h.i.e.l.d5893 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Imagine giving an job interview and going bankrupt after passing the final round 😂

  • @andrewalonsi
    @andrewalonsi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the newest update! Out of curiosity is it likely that the credit card swappers can steal users information if they use mobile payments such as Apple Pay or Google Pay?

    • @vulpine3431
      @vulpine3431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No lol
      They steal your credit card information from your credit card. They have no idea what you are doing with it

  • @JustJanitor
    @JustJanitor ปีที่แล้ว

    The chip insert is very common now I can't remember the last time I swiped my card. Good video

  • @AugustERaven
    @AugustERaven ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Had to swipe my card at the bank the other day to process my legal name change/bring up my account. I didn't think the one on my debit card even worked. This is the first time it's ever been used...😂

    • @crf80fdarkdays
      @crf80fdarkdays ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would it be in there if it didn't work?

    • @AugustERaven
      @AugustERaven ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crf80fdarkdays TBH I thought they removed it from the latest cards they sent out a few months ago

  • @joshuawilde6962
    @joshuawilde6962 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love more longform videos covering each topic in detail, rather than one video covering multiple topics at a surface level.

  • @cosmiclightning4723
    @cosmiclightning4723 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a heads up. The phase out of magnetic stripe is long, but it is already effectively done. Maybe at some gas stations you still use magnetic stripe, but I don't think I've personally used magnetic stripe in the last 3 years.

  • @ryanrester
    @ryanrester 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could find that camera on the frame with a quick peek using one of those little pocket sized infrared filter based camera finders.

  • @grudgebearer1404
    @grudgebearer1404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CiA informants getting a Darwin Award? Based, continue the great work whoever is the responsible

  • @brainlessdork
    @brainlessdork ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who knew how accurate American Dad was?

  • @MygenteTV
    @MygenteTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad they are getting caught. They shouldn't be having informants any where.

  • @alexandercinca7093
    @alexandercinca7093 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For the card thing , do as I and if you can take cash from an atm in a low populated area near you . Scammers are rarely if any interested in those areas! Otherwise just wait for the teller

    • @Ellron23
      @Ellron23 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive withdrawn from a teller once in my life it takes sooooo long lol

  • @Anvilshock
    @Anvilshock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Containing the PIN number. Which is fitting for an ATM machine. Which may or may not still come with an LCD display.

  • @greennames8350
    @greennames8350 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Black strip stays the same where as the chip randomises so if you do not ever use the magnetic strip at all you could just try and scramble it with a magnet so its unreadable (apart from old ATM's you should not notice a difference)

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can skim via contactless to, or just by using the camera yourte already using to get pins to do OCR on the card. If someone can read it, anyone can.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nobodynoone2500 Yahh chip, this is why ATMs should switch to NFC. While chip is way more secure, it can still be cracked. NFC however is even better than chip, than chip is to the stripe. Currently NFC is uncrackable, but barely supported in stores and not at all by ATMs, and not all cards.

  • @evilgibson
    @evilgibson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those thin card readers are sometimes badly configured and you'll be able to spot them through Bluetooth.
    The reason is that the card skimmers do not pull out the entire thing to get the skimmed card numbers, they use a Bluetooth app to get it.

  • @averagewhiteguy2
    @averagewhiteguy2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We haven't used the swiping for years in the US as a whole. We've had tap for about a year or 2. And we've had chip and pin for about 8 years.

  • @Nirossen
    @Nirossen ปีที่แล้ว

    I've come across a few of these I swear. Especially back around 2009-12.

  • @mohammedissam3651
    @mohammedissam3651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long back when i was new to the internet chat rooms those days, i remember going to a website has the same text box i didn't understand it back then, now i do.

  • @OcteractSG
    @OcteractSG ปีที่แล้ว

    The one and only time I used my card’s magnetic strip was when I paid for my vehicle’s registration at the department of environmental quality emissions check station.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Terminator 2 had flex cables for hacking ATMs, how is this new?
    Cash is king, cashless = powerless.

  • @connormccartney2953
    @connormccartney2953 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even if they phase out all of the magnetic strips, they'll just come up with an embedded rfid skimmer for the chip.

  • @gertbfrobe9101
    @gertbfrobe9101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Turn the card off after every use, you will not have to worry about the skimmers.

  • @snikrepak
    @snikrepak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Card less withdrawal, you use your app to send your phone a code, a triple, way plus room to add more

  • @Unknown_Ooh
    @Unknown_Ooh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with a new card skimming technique being found in a large city like NYC and not somewhere in nowhere Kansas is there's a lot of eyes and ears paying attention in the city and it wont take long till the same method reaches across a country to those small towns.

  • @wtfdoiputhere
    @wtfdoiputhere ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, if this scenario was to take place in the modern day ( presumably it's not already ) wouldn't it be more secure to use netcat ? I just love the portability of netcat especially if you use some encryption

  • @joanneswyckmans5921
    @joanneswyckmans5921 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Netherlands payment cards have no working magnetic strip anymore. It has been deactivated over 10 years ago. When I was on holiday in the US with my dad, some stores the clerk would say the card was declined, which could not be true. It seems they didnt have the proper system to read a pincode etc from chip.

  • @alastor8091
    @alastor8091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't seen a single store here in America where swiping is the preferred method. Every single card reader errors and demands you use the chip if you try.

    • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
      @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki ปีที่แล้ว

      I was in the western states from Canada and was INCREDULOUS that the USA retail sector is and was two decades BEHIND Canada.

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki thats those states. They don't speak for the entire country. Hell, the place you were at probably doesn't speak for the rest state. There are places that haven't changed, but id argue that's a good thing. The move towards a cashless society is a dangerous and shortsighted one. Think about your truckers and the people who had their bank accounts frozen for supporting the "wrong" thing. I think the ones going backwards are us. So smart we're stupid.

  • @KillMePete
    @KillMePete ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh damn, didn't realise that cards even had a magnetic strip. When I changed bank my new card didn't even have one.

  • @EmM-ko7mu
    @EmM-ko7mu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never seen anyone use their magnetic strip on a credit card before.

  • @subdueds
    @subdueds ปีที่แล้ว +5

    magstrips aren't the only problem, swiping will always be a thing as long as cards are. The chip's are now easier than ever for people to get ahold of.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why it's more likely we'll all be on NFC by 2032 rather than chip, which is also pretty old and can be easily cracked.

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swiping is a bigger problem on Tinder.

  • @CrittingOut
    @CrittingOut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fucking lost it when he pulled up FITNESS DAWG

  • @FarmerDrew
    @FarmerDrew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:54 Man, I had learned so much from Fitness Dawg, that shit changed my life, but I did find it strange that the cooldown was to put soaking wet towels over your face

  • @lowpinglag
    @lowpinglag ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:58 That is crazy. I've not had a credit card with a magnetic strip for like 5 years or more at least.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't want to turn this political or anything but people like to talk about how capitalism drives innovation, meanwhile we're all still using "ancient" technology such as this, because it costs money to switch to a new system, so why switch if the old system still (technically) works, plus an older smaller store probably can't afford to waste money like that, so you'll find several places that use a chip or phone payments, mostly big or newly built stores, but it's still not exactly common around here in the south.

    • @Herkan97
      @Herkan97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vgamesx1 Capitalism drives currency to whoever can exploit the most. Regulated capitalism is better, but it's not a great system. There may be better systems, but you see the slow change within the current system..An entirely new system could take even longer and come with a lot of lower standards of living until it can be introduced.
      Or you get something like an attempt at a switch, but in the transitional period someone just gets power-hungry and it never happens. I guess the system driven by that power-hungry group could still be better, but it's unlikely as the system they were trying to transition to would've already been an improvement, more likely it will be a system benefiting the power-hungry group.
      I believe that was what the USSR would've come to, a transition to communism but it never happened and some other system took place by a power-hungry group. In unwritten history, it's probably happened many times. Impossible to choose the correct group to make the transition when you can't read minds.
      For the U.S. the issue is also that they love the rich and the ability to get rich, by presumably exploiting others like the most richest men have no doubt done to get to where they are. So introducing a system without exploitation would mean you can't get rich like that and that's probably one of the prime ways to get rich under regulated capitalism.
      If you can actually get around the power-hungry group that would no doubt want to take over in the transitional period to benefit themselves.
      I assume for the U.S., power-hungry groups are already in charge..So unless you off them, no transition will ever take place. Generational differences still occur and eventually "old men" will be those that were once the young "I hate the rich" people. Now they may be the old "I hate the rich" people and so change can take place because the exploitative generations are dead.
      But that also takes a long time..Decades.
      Or it will just continue, because who likes change and those that don't want to be exploitative may not be the ones that want to be politicians and such.
      Not EVERYONE in a generation will fall under the same "hate the rich" mindset, so those that don't will presumably be the ones that become politicians and the cycle continues.
      Again, can't vote for the correct group to make the improvements, because you can't read minds and if one person could, no one else can so they can't know that person is speaking the truth about these supposed liars.
      I don't get why you need so much money in the first place..The whole point of living isn't to work, is it? It does feel like that from how some humans talk about life. I'd think it's about passing time doing stuff you enjoy, so if you don't enjoy working you shouldn't be working. But apparently not. Of course most sane humans understand not everything you enjoy is what you should be allowed to enjoy. Torturing others, for example. I would list others, but no doubt the comment would be removed.
      Rules like we have now would still take place. Presumably you could make a lot more rules in capitalism, so exploitation isn't a possibility. But how would that happen when the system is run by people that want exploitation, cheapest labor for the cheapest prices.
      I wonder what sort of system they have in the works for when robots take over most jobs, if power-hungry individuals are in charge, I am guessing everyone else isn't going to be living under a benefiting system. Probably a future civil war waiting to happen.
      I'm not in the loop about all the anti-politics stuff, so I don't know about that stuff. That seems like a U.S. thing, "No politics" rules. I've asked people when I've been in Discord servers about it and they can't give an answer, because presumably it's based on preference of what sort of politics they don't want. Everything else is counted as unpolitical and is allowed, even if it is political.
      It's like "incel", from what I've gathered. It's just anyone you dislike or don't want to hear from. The internet has a way of diluting meanings until you end up with meaningless words. Don't like black wallpapers on your kitchen wall? Racism. That sort of dilution. Don't like white wallpapers on your kitchen wall? That's fine, can't be racist against whites, even though it's not even about humans.
      We're all wallists, black wallpapers suit better for kitchens due to potential spills and also because you may want to see in there and eat. White wallpapers should amplify the brightness in the room and it may be easier to see spills, if you ever end up spilling on the wall while eating. I don't eat in the kitchen, but the same is true for any room you eat in.
      If the wallpaper tolerates water, maybe white wallpaper is better. See it quickly, get rid of it quickly. Now it's a clean wallpaper again.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Herkan97 The best system I've seen is a greater mix of multiple systems where it fits, kinda like in the EU, so you still have your capitalism, but it's slightly better regulated and has stronger consumer protections, then you have some socialism aspects such as universal healthcare which splits the cost between everyone and simply makes it cheaper and more available for everyone, but in the US we tend to half-arse everything.
      You do make some good points though like "it will just continue, because who likes change and those that don't want to be exploitative may not be the ones that want to be politicians and such"
      very true, I have zero desire to be a public figure or have people hate me because I want to push for better living conditions, I have little to hold me here and therefore would much rather simply pack up and move than try to fix the place I currently live, but that isn't such an easy choice for many other people.
      Although the far bigger issue is corruption, even if you DO get actively involved, politician or not, good luck actually changing much of anything, even more so when any large company can just buy teams of lobbyists or lawyers to whittle your rights away, I mean just look at the state of right to repair, Louis Rossmann has been pushing it for 10 years now and has barely moved the needle, for the most part he's just kept attempts to make things even harder to repair at bay and only very recently finally got one win, it certainly makes you feel kinda hopeless to make any meaningful change unless you're rich or somebody with a massive influence like MrBeast.

  • @honkSchumacher
    @honkSchumacher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My bank have been giving me cards without a magnetic strip for at least 5 years now. I was surprised to learn that they are still in use lol

  • @SethAurelius94
    @SethAurelius94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There needs to be a darwin awards equivilant for bad op-sec on websites and network setups.

  • @diewott1337
    @diewott1337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last time I saw someone swiping a card I was a kid. We don't even support these types of cards around here. It's either chip/PIN or contactless.

  • @auschwins1507
    @auschwins1507 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a relief it’s only my area

  • @machenka
    @machenka ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I haven’t been using the magnetic stripe on my payment card for at least 10 years. I’m a bit surprised it’s still used in some countries to be honest.

    • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
      @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in Canada now and was incredulous the old tech being still used throughout the western USA. Very vulnerable. We've had chip cards for a decade and a half in full use: western US? about 20% today. Wha?

    • @CamBase
      @CamBase ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing is even though it’s not used primarily any more they still make the cards with the magnetic strike regardless if it’s a newer card or not. Mostly criminals will try the chip a few times and when that doesn’t work it allows you to use the magnetic strike they need to change security A lot and fast before it gets worse for us regular citizens. They also create anti skimmer atm I serte to break these type of skimmers and detect if inserted these are the best bet at the moment pertaining to this threat.

  • @massivethomas9661
    @massivethomas9661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With all the stuff recruiters expect, it’d be more of a red flag if they didn’t expect you to download malware as part of the interview process.

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal370 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used the mag stripe at Aldi a few months back.

  • @banksarenotyourfriends
    @banksarenotyourfriends ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To avoid ATM fraud, I just use PAYG debit cards and top them up when I need to spend money. Takes a few seconds to do before I make a withdrawal, but it's a lot less effort than trying to get your money back later.

  • @Thepersianpopinjay
    @Thepersianpopinjay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so weird because where I’m from in America we almost exclusively use chip. At gas stations it’s chip and zip (the postal zip code attached to the address the card is registered to). Where I work the swipe on our terminal is only used if the card’s chip fails. If you have a debit card, it’s chip and pin. Most places I go also accept tap pay. Except at my job where I have to tell at least 1 customer a day to stop tapping their card because we can’t accept tap pay.

  • @geckoo9190
    @geckoo9190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:35 I actually do a small shake up on atms before using them.

  • @petrosiuksline7013
    @petrosiuksline7013 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are credit cart size cuircuts which will light up an LED if it was scanned 1 time and 2 if it was scanned 2 times. Was trying to find a link but couldn't. Definetly saw a demonstration once on yt

  • @shanecunningham305
    @shanecunningham305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those same Card Skimmers are in Tennessee too. They somehow managed to push my account into negative 6 grand and USAA thought I was gonna pay it all back. Gmfu

  • @xcannibal6corpse
    @xcannibal6corpse ปีที่แล้ว

    good news these card skimmers have only been found in new york city, lives in state that borders Ny fffffffff ty for the heads up wonder in a hook type device could be used to try to detect these new skimmers.

  • @williamhuang8309
    @williamhuang8309 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:54 The way these are designed, they look like you could grab onto them with a small hook and pull them out. So you'd need a thin slip of metal with a small bend on the end or a bump, the same sort of tools you use to defeat a "killer key" in a lock. You stick the thing into the slot and give it a sharp tug and see if something comes out or whether it gets caught on something.

  • @OfficialPooYT
    @OfficialPooYT ปีที่แล้ว

    If you kick the crap out of the atm and nothing falls off your are free to proceed imo haha

  • @kalewill3149
    @kalewill3149 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I use Hunter cat card to identify any skimmer, it's extremely useful, and it has saved me from a skimmer.

    • @zacharybenard1076
      @zacharybenard1076 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you notify authorities when you identify one to prevent someone falling prey to it

  • @anteshell
    @anteshell ปีที่แล้ว +24

    If you don't specifically need a magnetic stripe, you should destroy it with a strong magnet. It still leaves the chip intact. And if you really are in need of the said feature, you should make a new account just for that one card where you then transfer the money from other accounts as needed. The account used for mag stripe card should also let you see the logs when it has been accessed. That way you can see if your card is compromised even if the account had no money to steal from to begin with.
    That is very small price to 100% protect yourself from the skimmer attacks. It really becomes cumbersome only in countries where no other ways exists but even then I think it's worth it.

    • @tree-stuffer
      @tree-stuffer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really like this suggestion of gated funds. I believe it's best to have a card that you never use for any direct purchases, from which you transfer funds to another card or account. The original card can be immediately locked if there's somehow a breach in security, and using only that card to transfer funds to secondary cards and accounts means you aren't ever attaching your bank account info to anything.
      I had to cancel one of my cards not that long ago when someone across the other side of the country tried to use it for a big purchase and then going forward, I decided that gating my funds was appropriate.

    • @PBMS123
      @PBMS123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tree-stuffer or just have an account without a card, keep only as much cash in the card you would be happy to lose etc. etc.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 ปีที่แล้ว

      you people are out of your minds

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alainportant6412 I'm genuinely curious what makes you think that way. Why does implementing easy but effective security solutions require being "out of mind"?

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anteshell
      Because every single time you let tech people run wild, they're going to come up with some absurdly overengineered overkill for the most menial problem.
      Like the previous video "is you laptop's microphone spying on you?" where some kid came up with a mic data clock radio detector that you were supposed to fix on your laptop, when a simpler fix would have been to obfuscate your mic hole with glue or patafix or whatever;

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gas pump skimmers are now using ESP32 skimmers that are plugged into the chip reader and keypad so it can sniff the data as it is read from the card and input from the keypad. then all you have to do is connect to it by Bluetooth to download the data.

  • @Shokskaal
    @Shokskaal ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool!

  • @MrPillowStudios
    @MrPillowStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are and were probably people that enjoyed going on those websites not knowing that it was huge lie.