gotta talk about my boy Derrick White. from no college wanting to give him a scholarship, to growing a few inches in college, to being offered a scholarship to Colorado and becoming a buffalo, to being drafted at the end of the first round, to being developed by Pop and the Spurs system, to getting traded, to All-Defense, to NBA champ, to Olympian. he is the poster-child for scouting, development, and exceeding every conceivable expectation as a basketball player. Perfect circumstances, great character and teammate, extremely coachable, exceeds expectations and becomes a complete draft steal
i still remember his series against denver and thought hes gonna be the point guard of the future. Too bad the spurs were not contenders back then and had to rebuild
@@XandateOfHeavennah dead ass. NO HATE. IM 26 my spot started showing, buzzed that shit down to a one. Is what it is. Rather get called bald by kids online, then laughed at by a girl for hiding a spot lmaooooo
some coaches can also help players develop and “unlock their potential”. my fav example is thibs. he helped develop kobe, yao ming, joakim noah, drose into who they would become, and arguably helped jimmy butler and josh hart too. crazy.
you could argue Jalen Brunson too. Sure, he showed some flashes in the playoffs with Dallas but he definitely wasn’t a sure thing and now he is an All-NBA guard
@@henry7486 all of the current knicks (minus og ofc) could be here tbh, they’ve all improved significantly under thibs and i dont think that they become who they are now without thibs helping them
that's why often players in the 11-20 range are successful. they go to organizations that care for development instead of handing the keys of the team to them like teams do to most high lottery picks
Situation is so important for a player's success. I look at a player like Dereck Lively this year. He gets drafted by a winning team, gets to mentor with Tyson Chandler, and gets spoon-fed lob passes by one of the best set-up men ever in Luka. Now obviously, Lively has done an amazing job buying into his role. And he has insane physical gifts. But if he'd gone to Detroit to be the 5th center on the roster, does he look as good right away? I think Jayson Tatum is another super-talented guy who developed really well but also benefitted from having an amazing situation from the jump. He joined a great team with some nice veteran leadership and a good coach, but there was still some real opportunity for early minutes. Granted, certain players are so insanely talented that they would look amazing anywhere they go (Luka, LeBron, etc). But that's not most players. Even most All-Stars don't fall into that category.
I figured it out. Drafting should be based on character. Players that love the game and are humble enough and tenacious enough to improve themselves and their team. Then draft the one with the highest ceiling out of those. Everyone else will underwhelm regardless of talent
Didn't know that was Marc's story, good thing he got to take that better path to a long term development of an NBA career. That before and after picture at 3:41 is pretty wild! True, NBA vs NFL rookies (QB) have significantly different paths. That Dirk stuff is cool too. Takes the right management to recognize what the best way to help allow a guy to fulfil their potential. Sheesh Wiseman, that's too bad, kind of a shame when that kind of thing doesn't work out the way that it was "supposed to", but boy did that turn into a bit of a messed up situation. Good to keep that hope up for (certain) guys. There go that surfin dog again🏄🐕. You stay informing me and the peeps on how a lot of this NBA stuff goes down. Thanks home slizzy, appreciate the goodiness.
No doubt. I think it's important to know where you stand in any organization or group really. The Warriors were focused on winning, if that included Wiseman or not they didn't care. Evidently while Marc Gasol was in the states as a youth he loved mcdonalds and it showed haha. He should sell a fitness program for sure. I gotta swap in some new dogs surfing gifs. there are literally thousands on the internet. Thanks for the dayone support. Stay blessed, don't stress.
i just wanna say ive been watching your videos for a few months and you are one of my fav nba youtubers. you make everything u say so entertaining and understandable. keep making videos brodie u will blow up soon
Came across this randomly but I’m subbing immediately. Ik you know your shit when you can bring up nfl knowledge to make a point about something basketball related. My typa shit
Lack of culture and proper development staff makes a huge difference and it doesn't get talked about more often. I wish more analysts would call out front offices for shitty roster and staffing builds just as much as they spend ridiculing players and coaches.
@@whatslaps I don’t think you can get in NBA as a staff if you didn’t care about the sport - but I think a lot of franchise never focuses on identity / sort of a “this is what we are about” message they wanna put out to the rest
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I was about to rant against your coaching video saying only college coaches matter, but... Watching this video I can see both visions coexist... nice! I was hoping an analysis of Markelle Fueltz though... what the hell happened to him an his shot, will always be a mistery to me.
Really love your channel dude. I’m a big fan of how you explain shit, I’m new to sports and it’s refreshing hearing someone explain the numbers in such a comprehensive way. Also you’re funny as hell, love what you’re doing
Amen to this video. Its not who you draft. Its what you teach and develop the player you draft. Sixers are the perfect example of why this process is unbeaten. The “Trust the Process” Sixers had how many top 5 draft picks? Aside from Embiid what happened to those players?
@@whatslaps especially when the system denies him the choice. At least QB’s can do the “hold out shuffle” to get around being drafted by a bad organization. A kid like Kwame Brown or Ben Simmons is stuck with wat he’s stuck with 🤷🏿♂️
From what I hear you say, I believe Wiseman was in the same boat as Darko. Both were drafted by teams that are already good, and their development was affected as a result
This is another reason I’m glad I’m a fan of the nuggets. Murray is the only top 10 pick we’ve drafted to the team and we let him take the reins. All of our core guys were late firsts and second rounders. They never give up on their players, MPJ being the prime example. Great video once again
Lakers and Grizzlies trade for Pau Gasol is insane. Is like trading the best player you ever had for bunch off bench warmres and hoping the second round pick you got turns into an all-star.
Great analysis, player development and culture are a huge part about what makes a player successful and learn to play winning basketball. If Kobe was never traded and was a member of the Hornets, I don't think he learns to become a championship level player if he stays there and he might develop into a more a Tracy McGrady type player.
I still think James Wiseman could've been at least a Deandre Ayton type player if he was in a different situation. Dude had the scoring talent, rim protection, size, length, and athleticism. The problem is, the Warriors didn't need all that, they needed the role player stuff like clever box outs, tap outs, screen setting, timely cutting, shot selection, you know, the stuff that most rookies don't know when they enter the league, and take a few years to develop. He was drafted to the worst position possible, then was somehow traded to an even worse situation.
I really feel for Ron Holland. Not only was he a bad pick at 5 for Detroit, but he's going to a bad development team that's already got too many development pieces to focus on.
@@whatslaps as a Blazers fan, I hope we target the Pistons this year or in the future. I'm just imagining the pieces we could steal with just Jerami Grant or another vet.
Absolutely love your videos. I’d love to hear your opinion on uniforms throughout the league, whether it be rankings, different eras, why people love certain uniforms/logos. Also as a wolves fan I’m so happy the twin towers talk with KAT and Wiseman didn’t happen
Love this video, people really act like development isn't vital for rookies and that it's on them to immediate succeed when the team management may not always prioritize it in that manner. I look at it this way. Steph would be a multi time All Star likely at the very least say if he was drafted by the Wolves. But would he have the success he's had up until this point as far as with the Warriors? I highly doubt that. Minnesota at the time was somewhat decent with individual draft development (Kevin Love being an example,) but that was honestly about it.
The NBA in its current state has a lazy approach with letting the draft be the way to have talent fall in your hands without the need to develop the talent
I've always had an idea for a video that focuses on the most impactful of statistical anomalies in basketball. The ones that helped teams the most like ridiculous shooting % or ones that hurt teams the most like a large number of turnovers or a poor 3 % for the game. But things that were completely against the statistical baseline that would be expected from a team.
At the end of the day nobody’s more responsible for a player’s development than the player themselves🤷♂️ “you can lead a horse to water but can’t make em drink it” applies. Some have it some don’t
I think a Team's development staff is a big part of the equation to success that nobody mentions. I think a team's development staff is even more important than their scouting team.
The reason everyone said the Pain trade was so bad was because it made the Lakers instant contenders again, it had very little to do with Marc. Chris Wallace was accused of executing the trade out of spite against the Celtics who had just put together their Big 3. The Lakers won in '09 and '10 not instantly but very shortly after. Talk to your old heads before you talk to the young folk.
This is exactly what I always bring up whenever I hear the age old "oh this team should have drafted this guy" like can you tell me with absolute certainty that he would have been even half the player he ended up being if he was put in a different environment? Like take a look at Pre-Injury Gordon Hayward, became an all star and reached the NBA's apex of talent in 2017, in a redraft of the 2010 draft he would probably have gone third behind PG and Wall instead of where he was drafted at 9 behind Evan Turner, Al-Farouq Aminu, Derrick Favors and Wesley Johnson. But you have to remember it took Hayward 7 years to carve himself out as the 3rd best player in that draft class, if he was put in a different environment without the chance to develop and nurture his talent for 7 years would he still have become that same player? I don't think so.
Also alot of it is allowing a young player to figure it out, think about a team like okc when they drafted Russ, if he wasn’t giving that green light to go out and do what he does as a rookie he probably wouldn’t of tuned out a mvp and hall of famer
Its great that the Euroleage allows some players to develop their game before coming to the NBA by playing professionally in their early years. Its a shame the G-League failed to replicate it because the incentive is to just have good stats for the NBA.
I know it's not really the focus of the chanel and maybe the general audience of it but that's even more noticeable at football (soccer). You have "seller teams" that are known for giving the perfect condition for players to flourish like Ajax, Sporting, Porto and Lyon that extract the best out of players and in the other hands you also have the "career killers" sort of saying, like Manchester United, Chelsea, PSG that usually buy players from those teams and they never fulfill their potential. Recent examples I cant think of at the top of my head are Depay, Bergwijn, , Ziyech, Telles and Sanches. The pressure to perform IMO is a big factor if not the biggest in both sports/leagues. If a guys goes from a smaller club to a big club in football it means more people are watching him and the weight of his pricetag makes it harder for younger players to perform, I guess being a lottery pick in a NBA also has this mental effect, because if you're like a first rounder and you don't perform people will rush in to call you a bust and saying that they could have traded the pick in a package for another player or something. Loved the video by the way!
I might be able to shoe horn something like that into another video. It's a great idea. I remember Ibrahimavic at Ajax and when he went to Inter. I'd love to watch a video on that. thanks for the suggestion!
@@whatslaps Tifo has some great videos about Chelsea Academy: th-cam.com/video/Yyd27n_7NKs/w-d-xo.html and La Masia (Barcelona): th-cam.com/video/tResxp9hOHo/w-d-xo.html Chelsea are starting to change their approach about signining prospects, not too long ago you would see players signining for them and being stuck in an endless cycle of loans like Lucas Piazon for instance, who was loaned out 7 times in 9 years while only playing 3 games for them or sold after one or two seasons like what happened with Maatsen this season
As always, love picking your brain about these topics that no one really considers. I couldn't imagine coming to the league so young, defending and trying to keep up with mostly already developed players, half of them being vets. I think we, as the fans, expect too much just because someone is a prospect. Yes, they were awesome against people in their same age group and, for the most part, talent level. Give them a chance. It's so much pressure. Let them develop. There are so many kids that end up being the absolute shit sooner than later Some later rather than sooner. Some are not at all. Some have a early short peak. Some have a delayed long peak. Time will tell. Also have to factor in thungs like injuries (zion, mpj, kyrie etc..) id hate to write you a whole book about stuff most days. If you have a discord or something where followers pf yours can discuss stuff, id love to join. If not, looking forward to every monday where i can pick that brilliant mind of yours again. Im gonna buy a pack of corndogs and talk to my roommate about basketball 😂❤ much love, dude. It's always a pleasure 🙏🏾 hope all is well.
Yeah, they should really do a hard knocks style show or a show entirely dedicated to the lives and experiences of draftees. Similar to that movie they did on g league last year or two years ago. It was rad. No discord atm but I'll keep u in the loop. hope all is well with you too, player.
On the point of that the people that cry about the Pistons not getting high picks like they didn't have the 1st like three years ago drive me up the wall. Yes, their Teams sucks ass, but also their player development is non existent.
Cleanthony Early complained that Phil Jackson and Craig Robinson (Michele Obama's Brother) did very little Player Development when he played for the Knicks.
It's amazing thay you can make a very insightful video about player development without even having to mention the greatest example of good player development in NBA history: Nikola Jokic. Just goes to show that (1) this channel is going to boom very soon and (2) there's so much more to the NBA itself than just the Jordan vs LeBron debate or any other bullshit that ESPN continues to shove down our throats like a BBC.
Every time I see a potentially great prospect go into bad situations, I feel bad for them. Like I was so happy Wemby ended up with the Spurs. Obviously, he was probably gonna be generational regardless of where he went but I can't imagine what his development would look like if he was on last season's Pistons
@@whatslaps gotcha. I mistook James Wiseman for Marvin Bagley when glancing at the thumbnail. To me, he could even be a better example of poor development bc, you know, the Kings.
All these “one and done” players going to bad teams are not good for the NBA. I think if there is a farm system a la baseball, it would be better for development.
Hey coach, next time can we differentiate between the Gasol brothers, Marc and Pau, instead of getting them both under the same umbrella? Not just Gasol this and Gasol that, which brother did what ( I watch 90% of your vids without the screen )
@@whatslaps Yes, just fresh off a conference finals appearance with IT and the boys, then drafted into another conference finals team with Kyrie, Brown, Rozier, Hayward, Horford
James Wiseman is playing like a veteran in the playoff with the Warriors but he kept getting injured and can’t keep up with the high pace, golden state have raise a lot of talent from scratch
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gotta talk about my boy Derrick White. from no college wanting to give him a scholarship, to growing a few inches in college, to being offered a scholarship to Colorado and becoming a buffalo, to being drafted at the end of the first round, to being developed by Pop and the Spurs system, to getting traded, to All-Defense, to NBA champ, to Olympian. he is the poster-child for scouting, development, and exceeding every conceivable expectation as a basketball player. Perfect circumstances, great character and teammate, extremely coachable, exceeds expectations and becomes a complete draft steal
i still remember his series against denver and thought hes gonna be the point guard of the future. Too bad the spurs were not contenders back then and had to rebuild
Also the poster-child for why you should shave your head the moment your hairline starts receding
@@XandateOfHeavennah dead ass. NO HATE. IM 26 my spot started showing, buzzed that shit down to a one. Is what it is. Rather get called bald by kids online, then laughed at by a girl for hiding a spot lmaooooo
@@juohan that chase down block was the first in a long mixtape of incredible postseason defensive plays. what a player, man
@@CelabWilliams-gb6rm owning it is the real man's way. hell yeah
some coaches can also help players develop and “unlock their potential”. my fav example is thibs. he helped develop kobe, yao ming, joakim noah, drose into who they would become, and arguably helped jimmy butler and josh hart too. crazy.
you could argue Jalen Brunson too. Sure, he showed some flashes in the playoffs with Dallas but he definitely wasn’t a sure thing and now he is an All-NBA guard
That's true. Laurie Markanen got unlocked by Hardy.
another good example is lebron james unlocking delonte west
@@henry7486 all of the current knicks (minus og ofc) could be here tbh, they’ve all improved significantly under thibs and i dont think that they become who they are now without thibs helping them
Tom Thibodeau developed Kobe? When? None his coach references show LA
that's why often players in the 11-20 range are successful. they go to organizations that care for development instead of handing the keys of the team to them like teams do to most high lottery picks
but the teams aren't so so good that they still give their draftees time to develop. makes me think of Donovan Mitchell
Also those teams never have high picks because they're good. the cycle continues.
Situation is so important for a player's success. I look at a player like Dereck Lively this year. He gets drafted by a winning team, gets to mentor with Tyson Chandler, and gets spoon-fed lob passes by one of the best set-up men ever in Luka. Now obviously, Lively has done an amazing job buying into his role. And he has insane physical gifts. But if he'd gone to Detroit to be the 5th center on the roster, does he look as good right away?
I think Jayson Tatum is another super-talented guy who developed really well but also benefitted from having an amazing situation from the jump. He joined a great team with some nice veteran leadership and a good coach, but there was still some real opportunity for early minutes.
Granted, certain players are so insanely talented that they would look amazing anywhere they go (Luka, LeBron, etc). But that's not most players. Even most All-Stars don't fall into that category.
Exactly Christian Braun and Peyton Watson are so blessed too
Two shots at the kings in the first 25 seconds. Love it
me? never.
Calling Gary Payton II as Gary Payton the Sequel 😂😂
help me start that nickname
The fact that you edited in a slap sound effect for when Marc Gasol smacks his own butt is the attention-to-detail that makes this channel special
that one was for me, but I'm happy you noticed! ;)
ur vids get better w each upload and they always feel refreshing compared to a good majority of nba youtube imo
I try to add some new technique to every episode.
This needs a part 2. So many good examples of how people misunderstand player development.
More good and bad examples please
there really are endless examples of good and bad development
I figured it out. Drafting should be based on character. Players that love the game and are humble enough and tenacious enough to improve themselves and their team. Then draft the one with the highest ceiling out of those. Everyone else will underwhelm regardless of talent
It seems like it's going that way now and a lot of the players come in ready to work and be humble.
Didn't know that was Marc's story, good thing he got to take that better path to a long term development of an NBA career. That before and after picture at 3:41 is pretty wild! True, NBA vs NFL rookies (QB) have significantly different paths. That Dirk stuff is cool too. Takes the right management to recognize what the best way to help allow a guy to fulfil their potential. Sheesh Wiseman, that's too bad, kind of a shame when that kind of thing doesn't work out the way that it was "supposed to", but boy did that turn into a bit of a messed up situation. Good to keep that hope up for (certain) guys. There go that surfin dog again🏄🐕. You stay informing me and the peeps on how a lot of this NBA stuff goes down. Thanks home slizzy, appreciate the goodiness.
No doubt. I think it's important to know where you stand in any organization or group really. The Warriors were focused on winning, if that included Wiseman or not they didn't care. Evidently while Marc Gasol was in the states as a youth he loved mcdonalds and it showed haha. He should sell a fitness program for sure. I gotta swap in some new dogs surfing gifs. there are literally thousands on the internet. Thanks for the dayone support. Stay blessed, don't stress.
Love to see bros channel taking off. Been following since the beginning and he has some of the best breakdowns outta the YT nba creators.
Thanks man! 2024 has been good
i just wanna say ive been watching your videos for a few months and you are one of my fav nba youtubers. you make everything u say so entertaining and understandable. keep making videos brodie u will blow up soon
Glad you're enjoying the content, brother 🤙
Came across this randomly but I’m subbing immediately. Ik you know your shit when you can bring up nfl knowledge to make a point about something basketball related. My typa shit
Yeah, I still keep tabs on NFL. Used to be a big fantasy football guy.
Lack of culture and proper development staff makes a huge difference and it doesn't get talked about more often. I wish more analysts would call out front offices for shitty roster and staffing builds just as much as they spend ridiculing players and coaches.
It starts with a group of people who care about what they're doing.
@@whatslaps I don’t think you can get in NBA as a staff if you didn’t care about the sport - but I think a lot of franchise never focuses on identity / sort of a “this is what we are about” message they wanna put out to the rest
I was about to rant against your coaching video saying only college coaches matter, but... Watching this video I can see both visions coexist... nice!
I was hoping an analysis of Markelle Fueltz though... what the hell happened to him an his shot, will always be a mistery to me.
I think there might be a good video on players who's value tanks. Like quick downfalls. Might include Ben Simmons and a little bit of Markelle.
@@whatslaps Sounds nice!
Wiggs might be there too
Really love your channel dude. I’m a big fan of how you explain shit, I’m new to sports and it’s refreshing hearing someone explain the numbers in such a comprehensive way. Also you’re funny as hell, love what you’re doing
Thanks man! glad you're enjoying a new interest and finding the vids helpful/entertaining!
Amen to this video.
Its not who you draft. Its what you teach and develop the player you draft.
Sixers are the perfect example of why this process is unbeaten.
The “Trust the Process” Sixers had how many top 5 draft picks? Aside from Embiid what happened to those players?
exactly. so many players in the draft, so much potential.
idk if you`ve done a video about tampering/nepotism in the nba but i think maybe looking at how nepo-hires are affecting teams would be interesting!
Excellent rec
Dope vid. Shows that a lot of times, we blame players for organizational faults 🤷🏿♂️
Facts. Not really fair to bully a guy for the situation he was put in.
@@whatslaps especially when the system denies him the choice. At least QB’s can do the “hold out shuffle” to get around being drafted by a bad organization. A kid like Kwame Brown or Ben Simmons is stuck with wat he’s stuck with 🤷🏿♂️
From what I hear you say, I believe Wiseman was in the same boat as Darko. Both were drafted by teams that are already good, and their development was affected as a result
Darko is a great example as well.
@@whatslaps hopefully Wiseman redeems himself in the Pacers
This is another reason I’m glad I’m a fan of the nuggets. Murray is the only top 10 pick we’ve drafted to the team and we let him take the reins. All of our core guys were late firsts and second rounders. They never give up on their players, MPJ being the prime example. Great video once again
THat's true. The Nuggets extended him when everyone else thought he was too injury prone.
video idea: How to spot a stat padder and is it good or bad for a team?
that's an excellent suggestion
Another amazing video from an amazing youtuber
you're too sweet to me
Lakers and Grizzlies trade for Pau Gasol is insane. Is like trading the best player you ever had for bunch off bench warmres and hoping the second round pick you got turns into an all-star.
yeah, the griz got lucky marc panned out
@@whatslaps very,I think Jerry West did his old team a favour haha
Great analysis, player development and culture are a huge part about what makes a player successful and learn to play winning basketball.
If Kobe was never traded and was a member of the Hornets, I don't think he learns to become a championship level player if he stays there and he might develop into a more a Tracy McGrady type player.
What about the defensive tenacity of Kobe? Mcgrady didn't have the dog in him.
I still think James Wiseman could've been at least a Deandre Ayton type player if he was in a different situation. Dude had the scoring talent, rim protection, size, length, and athleticism. The problem is, the Warriors didn't need all that, they needed the role player stuff like clever box outs, tap outs, screen setting, timely cutting, shot selection, you know, the stuff that most rookies don't know when they enter the league, and take a few years to develop.
He was drafted to the worst position possible, then was somehow traded to an even worse situation.
I really feel for Ron Holland. Not only was he a bad pick at 5 for Detroit, but he's going to a bad development team that's already got too many development pieces to focus on.
I know. I feel bad for guys who go to bad development teams. I was worried Matas would end up in Detroit or Washington.
@@whatslaps as a Blazers fan, I hope we target the Pistons this year or in the future.
I'm just imagining the pieces we could steal with just Jerami Grant or another vet.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH UR GROWING BRO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS
Had a couple good months this year 🙏
Thanks!
feeling blessed.
Absolutely love your videos. I’d love to hear your opinion on uniforms throughout the league, whether it be rankings, different eras, why people love certain uniforms/logos. Also as a wolves fan I’m so happy the twin towers talk with KAT and Wiseman didn’t happen
I might do that. Maybe a cross examination on popularity of jersey and fans of that team.
This right here is good stuff
glad you dig it, man!
Love this video, people really act like development isn't vital for rookies and that it's on them to immediate succeed when the team management may not always prioritize it in that manner. I look at it this way. Steph would be a multi time All Star likely at the very least say if he was drafted by the Wolves. But would he have the success he's had up until this point as far as with the Warriors? I highly doubt that. Minnesota at the time was somewhat decent with individual draft development (Kevin Love being an example,) but that was honestly about it.
exactly. I think every player needs a person or people in the org that are more focused on developing the player than even winning.
Props to boston grabbing sam hauser unsigned snd hom becoming a rotation piece on s championship team
it'd be interesting to know what Sam Hauser would be on another team.
u shld make a vid on how the maturity of a player affects how they perform
that'd be good. "How to spot humility"
The NBA in its current state has a lazy approach with letting the draft be the way to have talent fall in your hands without the need to develop the talent
definitely. I'd kind of like to see a new league pop out of nowhere (not in Dubai though)
@@whatslaps dubai most likely cuz oil money always can pay billions in losses for aging and past-their-prime players
I've always had an idea for a video that focuses on the most impactful of statistical anomalies in basketball. The ones that helped teams the most like ridiculous shooting % or ones that hurt teams the most like a large number of turnovers or a poor 3 % for the game. But things that were completely against the statistical baseline that would be expected from a team.
Yeah might be time for an advanced stats video again. Could work that in with it
Griz never expected Marc Gasol to be good since they used their second pick to draft Thabeet. They lucked out
that's good point. I forgot that was the same draft.
At the end of the day nobody’s more responsible for a player’s development than the player themselves🤷♂️ “you can lead a horse to water but can’t make em drink it” applies. Some have it some don’t
true, but you can also lead a horse to the desert.
@@whatslaps that’s fye 👏 ima put that in a song
excellent video like always!
do you think you'll ever do a video talking about the possibility of jokic being the best passer of all time?
Ever no way
But the best passer as a big man
He is definitely in the running
Maybe. I could do a video on player who changed the game and their style of play.
I think a Team's development staff is a big part of the equation to success that nobody mentions. I think a team's development staff is even more important than their scouting team.
that's my thing too. If I was a draftee, I'd go as hard as possible in my Miami Heat workout.
Hey I did a video similar to this, I loved your take on it!!
What is the name of it? what's the name of your channel? Kbelli?
word. I'll check it out and report back!
@@buzzerbeater3350 kbelli
@@whatslaps I appreciate it!!!
Yo I love your content
Yo I love you
Shout out Honda Civic
I actually drive a fit now. My civic got totaled in a hit and run. I miss her everyday.
The reason everyone said the Pain trade was so bad was because it made the Lakers instant contenders again, it had very little to do with Marc. Chris Wallace was accused of executing the trade out of spite against the Celtics who had just put together their Big 3. The Lakers won in '09 and '10 not instantly but very shortly after. Talk to your old heads before you talk to the young folk.
Pau**
Oh snap. Thanks for providing more context
Another certified classic.
put a stamp on it
This is exactly what I always bring up whenever I hear the age old "oh this team should have drafted this guy" like can you tell me with absolute certainty that he would have been even half the player he ended up being if he was put in a different environment? Like take a look at Pre-Injury Gordon Hayward, became an all star and reached the NBA's apex of talent in 2017, in a redraft of the 2010 draft he would probably have gone third behind PG and Wall instead of where he was drafted at 9 behind Evan Turner, Al-Farouq Aminu, Derrick Favors and Wesley Johnson. But you have to remember it took Hayward 7 years to carve himself out as the 3rd best player in that draft class, if he was put in a different environment without the chance to develop and nurture his talent for 7 years would he still have become that same player? I don't think so.
exactly my thoughts. when I hear people say that it sounds asinine. Like they couldn't believe they didn't pick the winning power numbers.
You showing Aaron Rodgers getting his collarbone broken by Anthony Barr made me sad. - Sincerely the #1 Packers Fan that's a fan of your videos
Can't even watch a lovely NBA video without NFL PTSD lol (insert crying laughing emoji here)
my bad bro. I just google "nfl sack" and got that gif. didn't realize the context
Also alot of it is allowing a young player to figure it out, think about a team like okc when they drafted Russ, if he wasn’t giving that green light to go out and do what he does as a rookie he probably wouldn’t of tuned out a mvp and hall of famer
exactly. Russ and KD got time to be themselves
Its great that the Euroleage allows some players to develop their game before coming to the NBA by playing professionally in their early years. Its a shame the G-League failed to replicate it because the incentive is to just have good stats for the NBA.
agreed man. Seems like Euros come in ready to rock.
Charlotte hornets are basically saying “HEY, if your not nice coming in the draft then sorry buddy we cant help you” LMAO
you mean they don't draft potential?
I know it's not really the focus of the chanel and maybe the general audience of it but that's even more noticeable at football (soccer). You have "seller teams" that are known for giving the perfect condition for players to flourish like Ajax, Sporting, Porto and Lyon that extract the best out of players and in the other hands you also have the "career killers" sort of saying, like Manchester United, Chelsea, PSG that usually buy players from those teams and they never fulfill their potential. Recent examples I cant think of at the top of my head are Depay, Bergwijn, , Ziyech, Telles and Sanches.
The pressure to perform IMO is a big factor if not the biggest in both sports/leagues. If a guys goes from a smaller club to a big club in football it means more people are watching him and the weight of his pricetag makes it harder for younger players to perform, I guess being a lottery pick in a NBA also has this mental effect, because if you're like a first rounder and you don't perform people will rush in to call you a bust and saying that they could have traded the pick in a package for another player or something.
Loved the video by the way!
I might be able to shoe horn something like that into another video. It's a great idea. I remember Ibrahimavic at Ajax and when he went to Inter. I'd love to watch a video on that. thanks for the suggestion!
@@whatslaps Tifo has some great videos about Chelsea Academy: th-cam.com/video/Yyd27n_7NKs/w-d-xo.html
and La Masia (Barcelona): th-cam.com/video/tResxp9hOHo/w-d-xo.html
Chelsea are starting to change their approach about signining prospects, not too long ago you would see players signining for them and being stuck in an endless cycle of loans like Lucas Piazon for instance, who was loaned out 7 times in 9 years while only playing 3 games for them or sold after one or two seasons like what happened with Maatsen this season
As always, love picking your brain about these topics that no one really considers. I couldn't imagine coming to the league so young, defending and trying to keep up with mostly already developed players, half of them being vets. I think we, as the fans, expect too much just because someone is a prospect. Yes, they were awesome against people in their same age group and, for the most part, talent level. Give them a chance. It's so much pressure. Let them develop. There are so many kids that end up being the absolute shit sooner than later
Some later rather than sooner. Some are not at all. Some have a early short peak. Some have a delayed long peak. Time will tell. Also have to factor in thungs like injuries (zion, mpj, kyrie etc..) id hate to write you a whole book about stuff most days. If you have a discord or something where followers pf yours can discuss stuff, id love to join. If not, looking forward to every monday where i can pick that brilliant mind of yours again. Im gonna buy a pack of corndogs and talk to my roommate about basketball 😂❤ much love, dude. It's always a pleasure 🙏🏾 hope all is well.
Yeah, they should really do a hard knocks style show or a show entirely dedicated to the lives and experiences of draftees. Similar to that movie they did on g league last year or two years ago. It was rad. No discord atm but I'll keep u in the loop. hope all is well with you too, player.
On the point of that the people that cry about the Pistons not getting high picks like they didn't have the 1st like three years ago drive me up the wall. Yes, their Teams sucks ass, but also their player development is non existent.
exactly. the NBA knows and gives them lucky number five now.
great monday(tuesday) to be a whatslaps fan
good day any day of the week.
Cleanthony Early complained that Phil Jackson and Craig Robinson (Michele Obama's Brother) did very little Player Development when he played for the Knicks.
thanks obama
Do you think the Raptors rebuild is good? What's missing? Do we just need to give it time?
I don't really know. I think it needs another season or two before the team has expectations.
It's amazing thay you can make a very insightful video about player development without even having to mention the greatest example of good player development in NBA history: Nikola Jokic. Just goes to show that (1) this channel is going to boom very soon and (2) there's so much more to the NBA itself than just the Jordan vs LeBron debate or any other bullshit that ESPN continues to shove down our throats like a BBC.
I know I thought about including him and Derrick White on the video but I've talking about both of them a lot lately. Had to mix it up
I don't have a corndog, will mini corndogs suffice?
put three of them on a popsicle stick.
My favorite song is Lipstick by Guttermouth
Mine too
happy monday whatslaps
happy Mon baby!
Wish it was a little longer Tbh
extendo video coming in 2 weeks
I would love a video on the hornets new management and owners. No one every speaks about the hornets😢
we need to give them a few years and then we can go in on em.
some players are ready to go day one while others need a few seasons to get their feet under them😊
Yeah sarr and riscasher are going to need a little time imo
@@whatslaps not good for top five picks like them
Every time I see a potentially great prospect go into bad situations, I feel bad for them. Like I was so happy Wemby ended up with the Spurs. Obviously, he was probably gonna be generational regardless of where he went but I can't imagine what his development would look like if he was on last season's Pistons
Yeah, landing on the Spurs was a good thing for him. Especially if you consider Pop's record with big men
Imagine if he'd ended up in Charlotte. oooff
My back is starting to feel better!
that's what's up. the team is about to crawl right back on it.
the cocomelon of nba content
espn for kids
I was hoping you'd have something to say about Marvin Bagley
I like pick on one player at a time. balance the negativity.
@@whatslaps gotcha. I mistook James Wiseman for Marvin Bagley when glancing at the thumbnail. To me, he could even be a better example of poor development bc, you know, the Kings.
Instant follow
thank you for the sub. god bless ya
How do you feel about the
melo ball show in charlotte
I know he got paid but he has missed a lot of time
Really not crazy about anything going on over tbh. Id focus on miller over ball
All these “one and done” players going to bad teams are not good for the NBA. I think if there is a farm system a la baseball, it would be better for development.
that'd be really interesting. the g league ignite felt like the start of that. RIP
Hey coach, next time can we differentiate between the Gasol brothers, Marc and Pau, instead of getting them both under the same umbrella? Not just Gasol this and Gasol that, which brother did what ( I watch 90% of your vids without the screen )
next time I'll do that for sure 👍
what do you think of dennis schoeder tho
Love his game. Always liked him as a Laker.
Man you need to add a bit more of a pause in your cuts and variety to your cadence
rogder that!
Rodger
What about a "Whatslaps" NFL channel?
I'm still trying to convince my brother to do it, but he's too educated to stoop down to "Content Creator" status.
whats up my brotha
whazzzzup?!
Anthony Edwards definitely has not grown… coaches lie.
Suspend your disbelief. 😜
Very Bill Wurtz coded and I like it
haha, someone else has said that before.
Is James Wiseman's Pacers contract a "flier" contract?
That's exactly what it is.
@@whatslaps 'Preciate ya'!
Bro what is "Field Goal range"? 🤣I'm a little concerned some people think FG% means only 2-pointers lol
🤣
Babe wake up
Babe wake up James wiseman mentioned
Did you make her coffee?
this guy doesn’t believe in pauses after sentences
No periods. Period.
Cough cough Ben Simmons
he was sort of a reverse situation. developed and then got exposed for his weaknesses.
Psalm 23:4❤
eggzachlee
I hope wisemen improves and has a great career
same same.
Yeah Marc Gasol didn't have any help in the nba. Having a hall of fame older brother means nothing
you're in my hall of fame!
@@whatslaps feels so empty
isaac noskoro 😔
sorry brother :(
What about Tatum who was drafted to a great team and still developed
Were the celtics good when he was drafted?
@@whatslaps Yes, just fresh off a conference finals appearance with IT and the boys, then drafted into another conference finals team with Kyrie, Brown, Rozier, Hayward, Horford
You should leave all those sound effects out they are completely unnecessary
you might like my other channel more @whatshorts
Ain’t ANT still 6’4?
Coach said he's grown two inches.
@@jessefritsch4323 He still looks 6’4 tbh
beats me. I just stole my research from real journalists.
The sounds are annoying af. I couldn’t make it a full minute lol
I didn't last 30 seconds, this guy suck!
Cmon dont do my boy nerlens like that
If I need a gif that references sadness and the draft that's the go to.
1st Dammit
you'll get the next one.
Watch ya mouth when you talking about my guys
consider my lips on surveillance
crazy seeing how things turned out for Wiseman yet we saw the Mavs get Lively who played a good role on their playoffs run
I know. That's a great example. The more I think about it, the injuries really ruined Wiseman.
Get a green screen. Generated backgrounds aren't very good.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
The direction of this video confusing me
Confusion is the first stage of growth
First😃
excellence
James Wiseman is playing like a veteran in the playoff with the Warriors but he kept getting injured and can’t keep up with the high pace, golden state have raise a lot of talent from scratch
I want to do another injury video. talking about the psychology of injuries
Juvenile barbs at detroit, how original, shame content was good until then.
Juvenile Barbs is a sick rap moniker.