The fact that there’s a Sonic Generations mod that recreates Unleashed to the point it just looks like Unleashed footage is funny. The game equivalent of “I can’t believe it’s not butter!”
@@OhKayEl What in particular doesn't? For my money, damn near everything this remake has given us has not only surpassed the original by an embarrassingly large margin. It's a genuinely amazing 3D Sonic experience that actually makes people appreciate the ideas the original had. Whereas the original convinced everyone it had no potential whatsoever.
I’m pretty sure Sonic 2 HD isn’t cancelled. I’m subscribed to the dev TH-cam channel and they still host dev streams every couple of months. Last time I tuned in, I saw one of the devs working on mapping the collision for Oil Ocean.
A comment under a s2hd video stated a similar take, and video game animation study TH-cam channel replied that "No, we are still working on the game", and they still post some beta footage. This project just takes too much time for it to having a single part of the game complete . We should keep waiting
The pretty sure the they said the reason it’s taking so slow is because the small team of devs all have jobs and can only work in S2HD in their free time, and when they feel like actually doing work for it. Plus the work they are doing is a LOT. They really aren’t cutting any corners or taking any shortcuts. They are meticulously making everything truly HD. Like a long while ago, I was tuned in to a stream and saw the super Sonic corkscrew rotation animation being worked in. He was using a 3D model for reference, making sure every line was perfect, and putting love and care into each frame. And with the amount of frames increased tenfold from the original, I can totally understand how slow things have been. Also in maybe that 5 hour stream, all the effort he put in barely even made a dent in entire animation that he needed to do.
@@superchriminator8902 Yes! watching the sped up drawing complications and streams shows us how much love and effort they put into this project with such little team! And they are doing volunteer work, they all have jobs in their life! That's why I am hoping that people will hype this game with every new demo release and ultimately, praise it for the smoothness of animation and sprites in the final release!
I could’ve sworn ChaosX said the bosses would be next after the Silver Update. I know he said he’s not interested in porting the cutscenes and hubworlds but he has dabbled in recreating them.
And if the fans wanna do it he has no reason not to. There is no reason for him to give them access to the game source code but I’m pretty sure the game can be easily decompiled. They just have to port them adequately into scenes and he just has to transfer them to the game not that hard.
But again you're missing the cutscenes, the hub worlds, the boss fights, the endgame, the atmosphere, i.e. all the magic that made it so memorable. Even if you're not a fan of the werehog or all that other stuff, it really isn't Unleashed without them.
Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit is by far one of the best fan-made Sonic remakes out there. Pretty fantastic, and something everyone should check out, in my opinion.
This comment deserves more attention. It's fascinating how amazing TT16bit is, and it's pretty much the perfect replacement for the original. It basically feels like I'm playing Sonic 4 (a proper sequel to 3, not that Sonic 4 EP 1+2 stuff Sega released).
It's a good game, but it is NOT a replacement for the original. It's basically a totally different game that happens to use the same level themes - there's a lot of really cool stuff about Triple Trouble that didn't make it over, and I highly recommend playing the original too (ideally the Master System fan port)
Oooo baby, this was the one I've been waiting for! I just have one small thing to say in an otherwise excellent video. Project 06 is very much the brain child of ChaosX, he is the lead developer and everything has to clear through him before getting implemented, but he is not the sole developer of the game. There are a few players to be mentioned. BeatZ - He has been beta testing, coding, and basically helping Chaos every step of the way since development on P-06 began in 2017. He is also the lead developer of the P-06 Modloader, which is getting a HUGE update very soon, allowing for custom stages, custom characters, and mods for the game. Gotta Play Fast - Supplied some of the edits you see in the character models, as well as helps with beta testing JeraCyclo Gaming - Supplied a lot the assets as well as aided in beta testing As for you Pariah, your videos were suggested to me around the time you were covering the gameplay of Sonic 06 (shocker, I know). I gotta say, your Sonic series (and videos i've watched of yours other than Sonic) have been nothing short of incredible. The concept is simple, your explanations are exceptional, and the value you provide on analysis of these games is nothing short of outstanding. It has been so refreshing to hear someone (espeically when covering the stories of games) give their opinion without any sort of pandering to the audience. Each video feels like your genuine thoughts, which is something I think the world could do with more of. Keep on rockin man! I'll be watching :)
Thanks for the correction. And thanks especially for the kinds words. I really appreciate it. I was just watching one of your stream uploads the other day. Fun stuff. Keep it up, dude.
One more thing I’d like to add, Stelmo streams so anyone reading this comment should check him out! He is THE Sonic P-06 speedrunner and his community is so much fun!
I just discovered your channel and I just want to say that you’re, by far, my favorite SonicTuber. I don’t agree with all your takes, but the things you do get right about the series-amazing. Keep up the great work.
17:46 One person, on unity in a potato/dinosaur PC until the update to the Shadow campaign, after that the potato died and had to get a new PC if i remember correctly, much more powerful. I think also for the Shadow update, it begun to be a more of a team, and some of then have worked on making P-06 having mod access now days.
Actually, there is an actual Remake of Unleashed in the works, I think it's called UE Unleashed (meaning Unreal Engine Sonic Unleashed). It aims to recreate the entirety of Sonic Unleashed including cutscenes and the werehog. On that note, I think it's worth mentioning STH 2006 mod for gens as it recreates almost the entirety of 06 in Sonic gens. Another fan game that comes to mind is the Sonic riders fangame that recreated many of the original stages and boards
If I were to add something to this pot of remakes, I'll add Sonic 3D in 2D, a demake of Sonic 3D Blast into a Genesis game. It is in the same vein as Triple Trouble 16 Bit, and still worth checking out. I would also recommend Riders X, a remake of the first Riders Game, being made by (I think) one of the members of the P06, which looks great, even if it's really in an early state. And another "demake" I'll recommend is Colors "Demastered", which tries to port the DS version of Sonic Colors to PC. Just some things I thought I should recommend.
3D in 2D is another game so different that it's its own thing. I'll probably talk about it some other time. I did check out Riders X for this, but it's too early to really recommend it in comparison to the base game. Especially with the competitive mods. Same for Advance Revamped. And Colors Demastered is not a remake of Colors DS. All the level design there is original. Like I said, I always have my eye on the fan game scene. I know my stuff. ;)
that says a lot less than you think. every trash game has potential to be a great game. you're acting like 06 was some martyr when it was just an ambitious game that got rushed out.
Damn. Forgot about that. I could have put it in here. But it's technically not a remake. I believe it's built off the original game. Either way, I'm probably gonna give it a dedicated video anyway.
I am so fucking excited for P-06's full stories to be playable. I love 06 even despite it's it's issues, and P-06 removes every single problem with the gameplay and improves on all of it. Like, this is the one game where I'll hunt down my XBOX 360 USB controller dongle and play using my official 360 controller instead of my Xbone controller, just to get closer to the feel. And, I love the story and the aesthetic so much that if ChaosX is able to get all three campaigns and adventure fields and story stuff in the project, holy shit dude. I do hope we eventually get the DLC stuff and the sidequests [in that order I don't care THAT much about Sonicman or Pele the Beloved Dog]
It's trippy to finally have a hands-on X-treme experience knowing all it cased back in the day. It's like acquiring a forbidden tool after the legend in which it destroyed everything.
Project 06 is absolutely amazing but something else I think is worth shouting out is the "Sonic 06 Definitive Experience" mod for Sonic Generations. It is also aiming to fully remake Sonic 06 within Sonic Generations and what's interesting is that it basically has added some of the things that Project 06 has not got around to yet. Definitive Experience doesn't have playable Shadow or Silver at the moment, but it does have hub worlds (merged together as a seamless hub world), playable Blaze with her full moveset ported over, and a couple of Town Missions implemented. "Sonic + Elise" and Gems have also been implemented. The physics are a bit more faithful to original 06 but still an improvement. The only major downsides are that the mod is a bit finicky to set up as you need some prerequisite mods and have to set up a specific load order. Blaze and "Sonic + Elise" are also not organically integrated into the game at the moment, you can just select which one you want from the mod loader options. It's still a really ambitious project and insane how much 06 functionality has been ported over accurately. It even has a fun Easter Egg in the Soleanna City hub where they intentionally recreated that bug with the iron crate in the warehouse where it lifts off straight into the air like an elevator if you stand on top of it and keep spin kicking it!
Unpopular opinion: I know most people prefer Sonic 1 Forever, whatever Sonic CD’s supposed to be, Sonic 2 Absolute, and Sonic 3 AIR. But I personally prefer the Sonic Origins versions of the classic games. Because as someone who really loves the Retro Engine remasters and really wanted S3&K to get that treatment, I really feel like Origins is the collection game for me. Plus I really enjoy playing the games with the new animated cutscenes. I feel like something would be missing if I didn’t see those cutscenes now. I do use some mods for Origins like a graphics mod, a SFX mod, and some OST mods, and a code to restore the life system in Anniversary Mode. With all of that, I feel like Origins is my favorite way to play the classic games.
This may not count as a full on remake, but Shadow the Hedgehog Reloaded is honestly my go to for whenever I feel like playing that game, it's such a well made improvement upon the original game with so many changes that it might aswell be a replacement to the original product.
I kinda want for P06 to have a 100% when the game is finished, and it allows to add back any funny glitch, that was in the original, i feel like that would be cool and funny
I think the hub worlds for Sonic 06 could use the most improvement. 1. Have the minimap be overhauled and work like in FF7 Remake or the GTA games 2. Have a full map of the hub worlds like in SADX and Frontiers via the pause menu and set waypoints like in the latter. 3. Two words: Fast travel. Even as Sonic, the Soleanna Forest is too damn big. This one could be fixed by probably making a brand new map for it and having an entirely separate arena for the Egg Genesis (kinda like Chaos 4 in SA1). 4. This one is less critical but have the townspeople look cartoony. Give them the Unleashed treatment. Also give them personalities, cause nobody wants “Welcome to Corneria”, and/or “I like swords”. Just something I’d like to see for the hubs in P-06.
Man can I just say how much yhe Unleashed Project has improved over the years. Like back when I first played it in 2015ish all it was was Generations with a custom hub world (which after a while became broken on newer hardware) and the Unleashed level design. But now as you said to an untrained eye it is basically undistinguishable from Unleashed. And to me mods like that are why Generations is my favourite boosy sonic game
As a massive Triple Trouble fan, I'm actually really glad you chose not to cover 16-Bit here - it's a great game in its own right, but it's absolutely not Triple Trouble and removes a lot of what I liked about Triple Trouble, so seeing it touted as a remake or replacement always makes me die a little inside.
Ah yes, the one constant in the Sonic fandom: Sonic 2 HD will never be finished. Seriously, it's been getting updates since, like, 2006 and only has three levels.
Things take time - reverse engineering the original games decompiled source code and rewriting the functionality in C#, completely redrawing and reanimating everything at 4x scale, making design decisions on how to approach things that don't line up with the original game (wide-screen issues, seamless maps etc), remaking the levels - replacing tile art, redrawing the collision and making sure the objects are in place and everything's layered correctly. On top of that, take into account that most of the team have other priorities. As S2HD is voluntary, no one gets paid for it and it can't be monetised or funded like an indie game can. So it's just a big time sink.
whats even cooler for 06 is that there's going to be brand new cutscenes replacing the small text box crappy animation transfers between characters and for other instances, i'm so excited for that
That reminds me of of a remake of Sonic Advance some people were working on that added a bunch of characters like Shadow and Blaze. Never heard of it it again tho, I hope it's note a dead project. Advance is my favorite 2D Sonic game, so I was really looking forward to it.
Speaking of Project 06, there seems to ALSO be people making MODS FOR the fangame, making things related to Sonic and the Black Knight and even Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Sonic Robo Blast 2 post-1998 is technically a fan remake. Because it's completely different from the original but features the same themes and stuff, like Sonic 2 SMS but more intense and at some point from 2001 to now all of the original devs left, so it's fan-supported. So that's the best fan-made Sonic remake.
I’d go a step further, and redo the cast. My choices are the cast now, Travis Willingham as Mephiles, and Dr. Eggman and Princess Elise just have prerecorded dialogue.
Personally I'm not going to see inaccuracy as a negative of a remake if it makes the experience better. I don't think anyone would rather play the originals specificially because they added stuff, fixed the level design and whatnot. It's like preferring Sonic 1 over Mania because they like the limitations of the Genesis.
That is not to say that I don't understand people liking the originals or that it's wrong. I just don't see the changes in the remakes as a negative because they were done with a clear and beneficial purpose like the character swapping in the SMS one.
Another fanmade remake worth mentioning is the mod, Sonic Forces Reimagined which seems like a great way to get the full experience of playing Forces. It's not finished yet, but I hope to finish it in the future.
Honestly, I never cared about Sonic fangames or remakes or mods or anything like that. But your opinion is the first one on TH-cam I take seriously enough to download multiple of these games and try them out. Honestly, on other channels, I wouldn't even click on a video like this.👍
10:02 i can spot the difference, because i trained myself. Difference 1: improper Ragdoll physics. (That's the most important one because it applies to all stages.) Explanation: when you boost against a non-flying enemy while they are standing in a large group, generations tries to let the enemy your boosting against fly to a near enemy and hit it. Because they are standing in a large group it finds lots of different targets and gets confused. because a confused program can only crash, guess information, or do what it is told to do in such situations it runs the code saying to delete it instead. but this way of detecting does not work on all stages. Second way is checking if the physics look right. If a enemy is always charging into another one when you hit it (if there are any other ones) you know its gens. if there are none and the enemy just flies straight while spinning on one axis, its also gens. If the physics work properly like in unleashed, its unleashed ofc, you can just train yourself by looking at unleashed videos or performing the "checking if its gens steps." Difference 2: wrong particle effects. Look at a jungle joyride gameplay of sonic unleashed a few times while playing attention on the particle effects and you know directly what i mean. They are a lot more realistic. Difference 3: no qte, but this one is unreliable. Some people ported the selector qte so detecting with this qte is basically a no-go. Skyth ported the jump pad qte but nobody really uses it and you have to re-add the qte pads to the stages yourself because nobody has really done it publicly. The ramp qte is always reliable because nobody has ever tried to port that thing.
I do have to wonder what your definition of a remake even is if you include the Unleashed project that no matter how ambitions is still just a array of mod for Sonic Generations but discount Tripple Trouble 16bit for being to different. Like it almost feels like you got the words "recreation" and "remake" mixed up as remakes rather often tend to be a lot different from the original as its goal is not to "recreate" the original but to "making it all new from the ground up"
Xenia works? I was trying a week or 2 ago and it crashed on the first stage without fail. I tried patching it but it asks for a xex file but I have the iso which I tried converting but it didn't work
As impressive the fan remakes are, one important thing that most people fail to consider is that, compared to the devs of the original games, the devs of the remakes had the luxury of time and feedback to enhance the game's essence. For example, the altering of level design in P-06. ChaosX has reference of complaints, bugs, and footages from the original game to base on, while Sonic Team were still designing those from the ground up at the time with a really strict deadline. And if something didn't work, ChaosX had all the time to fix it while ST didn't. Not to discredit ChaosX, of course, but I remember when people kept bringing P-06 when Colors Ultimate released, treating it like he can make a better remaster/remake in the same dev period as SCU.
While that is true, I find it a poor excuse. Not for the devs, but for Sega. Especially at the time of 06, Sonic was one of their biggest money makers. And it's one of the most beloved and historically important gaming franchises ever. These games should not have such strict deadlines. Quality should be the priority. Fans can outdo the official stuff because they have unlimited time. So the real question is, why are Sonic games made in such a rush? And that's still a problem. Origins was pretty poor in general. But is a joke compared to the fan versions. And that didn't have to be the case. It's a collection of all the original games, celebrating the 30th anniversary. Go all out with that and make the definitive Classic Sonic experience... No. Sega would rather make a quick cash grab. Of course, games are a business and you can't pour unlimited money into a game. But I think one of the biggest factors that has harmed Sonic over the decades has been Sega. They have been extremely careless with how they treat the series. And to this day they have not learned their lesson. At this point it seems to me like as long as Sega controls the Sonic IP, the series will never reach its full potential. Now that I type all this out, this might be worth a video...
Does Chaos X have a patreon ? Also akchually Omega's guns are not chainguns, chainguns only have one barrel. They are gatling guns, which have multiple barrels, like a Minigun
I keep hearing that the team being sonic 2 HD does live streams or something showing the progress. But I've never been able to find these so I don't know if it's true. It's been years and just seems like a dead project to me. But you never know, they could just drop the entire game out of nowhere.
Yep there's live streams on the S2HD TH-cam channel occasionally. Although they're rarely pre-planned and more of a spontaneous thing. Best way to catch them is to either subscribe or just watch them afterwards
Sonic P-06 may be missing the hub world, boss fight, and Silver campaign. Missing Silver campaign I can understand but I am sure it will come eventually. As for missing hub world and bosses, I don't know, do we really need that?
kinda suprised you didn't mention the absolute best as it is basically an entirely new genesis sonic game made from the game gear definetily check it out
Bummer. As a person who played the Triple Trouble remake without knowing anything abt the original, I really would have liked if you dove into that game and the differences it had from it's original version.
I still have my Xbox 360 and Xbox one hooked up just so I can play unleashed my pc is very strong and can run unleashed fine in a ps3 emulator but most unleashed mods work with the 360 version and every time I download a 360 version of unleashed there’s no game it’s just like empty folders named dvd or something so I’m kinda stuck playing it on console
@@Pariah6950 oh my god I have to get on this immediately. I played on xenia about a year ago but constantly lived in fear of it crashing for seemingly no reason, so I just didn't bother with any sidequests or NPCs or anything. I wanna play the game again without being scared of crashes.
In P-06, sonic can use those 3 bars on his maturity gauge for his gem abilities, like shadow with his chaos boost. I'm curious to see how those 3 bars will affect silver in his gameplay.
hmm you convinced me to potenitally try Project 06. It's been an absurdly long time since I played the original and that's because of how unplayable it is. One thing, I hope this remake has mods to swap the character models? not a fan of the 06 designs*very ugly imo). I would love to have Unleashed Sonic's model in the game and Generations/Forces Shadow's model etc.
Thumbnails made me interested in his videos because it wasn't generic "cartoon drawing of youtuber crossing arms smugly" or "shocked meme face" like 90% of youtube.
@@GribbleGob that's fair, but I don't really remember, any explicit "cartoon youtuber mascot" things being in Sonic Fandom Usually it's a pretty colourful thumbnail about the topic of a video
Not really interested in p06 (unless they go full hog and add the huh worlds for a complete remake), moreso in legacy of Solaris and other mods God I hope we get a almost finished build of Xtreme leaked one day, that supposedly exists right? Also, are you gonna do unwiished?
Xtreme was never close to being finished in any of its iterations, the farthest one along was the fisheye lens build, mostly because it was primarily developed on windows pcs, so it could be much more developed like that. There was also Project Condor on the Sega Saturn but we only have one build of that iteration and a few screenshots of a later build that looks much more complete. And we got plenty of level assets for that iteration, but not too much else.
Fun fact (kind of): i believe there was an old demo of p-06 that i believe had only sonic's crisis city & from what i remember that old demo was even worse & even more glitched then the original
Unpopular opinion- mods and fan games are one thing, but isn't a straight up remake of an official game a betrayal of Sega's relaxed stance toward fan games? I have heard that Sega, although normally fine with fan games, will go after projects that are just remakes. And why wouldn't they, since if you have a superior remake of a game, there is little motivation to buy the original or a re-release if you don't have it already.
Not according to Sega. They've done nothing to shoot down any of these projects, nor the mobile decompilations or things like 3 AIR. They seem fine with it.
In terms of the SMS remakes, it's very easy to get roms of the original games, and the last rereleases those games had, were on systems like the Wii an 3DS which their shops have been closed down at this point. And actually, every rerelease of the 8-bit sonic games has been the game gear versions, so the master system versions haven't even been acknowledged once by Sega, so there's no legal way to play them unless you have an authentic master system and cartridge.
criticism here: your videos are bangers, but you should have a script, like your amy video- that video only really needed to be 16 minutes long but it ended up being 40 or so minutes
OK sonic triple trouble is A remake. Remake being recreating the whole game. Like the re2 remake, they changed everything with an entire different gameplay style and almost everything was changed. It's still a remake, a remake isn't just new textures and mods. It can definitely be a whole recreation while making the game different with inspiration as a guide. The word remake for a game can be alot of things
Project 06 made me dislike the Sonic and Elise levels more because all that happens is you lose more movement and freedom which project 06 excelled at giving. If I could just drop Elise in the sand, drowning and killing her and I get to play the level regularly? That would be awesome. Maybe it's a metaphor for being a princess where there's no freedom.
Honestly surprised that you didn't say P-06 isn't the definitive way to play 06 because it changes up too much(adding new moves to characters, changing up level design.).
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The fact that there’s a Sonic Generations mod that recreates Unleashed to the point it just looks like Unleashed footage is funny. The game equivalent of “I can’t believe it’s not butter!”
They already recreated Rooftop Run Zone on the not 3DS version as part of the original, unedited game.
@@myleswelnetz6700No, that has different music and level design to the original rooftop run.
16:12 Chaos X, the creator of P-06 has come out and said that he will also give Omega a physical attack on the next update, the Silver campaign.
Project 06 brings out the potential that 06 could have reached while still feeling unique.
The "feeling unique" part was entirely unnecessary.
@@OhKayEl what I mean by unique is add more to the game. Sonic going Super, add more to Shadow’s fighting style, a game over screen, etc.
Well I guess those things could be seen as improvements but not everything else.
@@OhKayEl some things are downgrades, like how the purple gem doesn’t make you smol
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What in particular doesn't? For my money, damn near everything this remake has given us has not only surpassed the original by an embarrassingly large margin.
It's a genuinely amazing 3D Sonic experience that actually makes people appreciate the ideas the original had. Whereas the original convinced everyone it had no potential whatsoever.
I’m pretty sure Sonic 2 HD isn’t cancelled. I’m subscribed to the dev TH-cam channel and they still host dev streams every couple of months. Last time I tuned in, I saw one of the devs working on mapping the collision for Oil Ocean.
A comment under a s2hd video stated a similar take, and video game animation study TH-cam channel replied that "No, we are still working on the game", and they still post some beta footage.
This project just takes too much time for it to having a single part of the game complete . We should keep waiting
Glad to hear that the project is still in the works.
Huh weird, idk why I remember hearing it got canceled
The pretty sure the they said the reason it’s taking so slow is because the small team of devs all have jobs and can only work in S2HD in their free time, and when they feel like actually doing work for it.
Plus the work they are doing is a LOT. They really aren’t cutting any corners or taking any shortcuts. They are meticulously making everything truly HD. Like a long while ago, I was tuned in to a stream and saw the super Sonic corkscrew rotation animation being worked in. He was using a 3D model for reference, making sure every line was perfect, and putting love and care into each frame. And with the amount of frames increased tenfold from the original, I can totally understand how slow things have been. Also in maybe that 5 hour stream, all the effort he put in barely even made a dent in entire animation that he needed to do.
@@superchriminator8902 Yes! watching the sped up drawing complications and streams shows us how much love and effort they put into this project with such little team! And they are doing volunteer work, they all have jobs in their life! That's why I am hoping that people will hype this game with every new demo release and ultimately, praise it for the smoothness of animation and sprites in the final release!
I could’ve sworn ChaosX said the bosses would be next after the Silver Update. I know he said he’s not interested in porting the cutscenes and hubworlds but he has dabbled in recreating them.
He did!? The last i knew there was nothing officially said yet about the bosses, they were on the maybe area.
I’m sure if some fans wanted to port it he would let them do it to the official version aslong as if it’s of good quality
And if the fans wanna do it he has no reason not to. There is no reason for him to give them access to the game source code but I’m pretty sure the game can be easily decompiled. They just have to port them adequately into scenes and he just has to transfer them to the game not that hard.
Why not go the extra mile though?
@@myleswelnetz6700 Because he is not interested on those parts of the game, as simple as that.
Wow, Project 06 is a great replac-
*no hub worlds planned means no Sonic-Man*
Pariah why would you ruin my day like that
Don't worry ChaosX is putting the hub worlds bosses and cuttscenes im p06
An yes that means we'll probably get Sonic-Man
if we don't get Sonic-Man we riot
"Of course, it is just the daytime levels, not the werehog-"
Then it's a replacement for the original to me
But again you're missing the cutscenes, the hub worlds, the boss fights, the endgame, the atmosphere, i.e. all the magic that made it so memorable. Even if you're not a fan of the werehog or all that other stuff, it really isn't Unleashed without them.
Yeah, without Those things, it would not be as bad as it really is lol
Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit is by far one of the best fan-made Sonic remakes out there. Pretty fantastic, and something everyone should check out, in my opinion.
This comment deserves more attention. It's fascinating how amazing TT16bit is, and it's pretty much the perfect replacement for the original. It basically feels like I'm playing Sonic 4 (a proper sequel to 3, not that Sonic 4 EP 1+2 stuff Sega released).
Agreed. I just started playing Triple Trouble 16-bit last night and I absolutely love it!
Haven’t seen any footage of it yet, but after reading this comment I certainly will
It's a good game, but it is NOT a replacement for the original. It's basically a totally different game that happens to use the same level themes - there's a lot of really cool stuff about Triple Trouble that didn't make it over, and I highly recommend playing the original too (ideally the Master System fan port)
The true sequel to sonic 3
Oooo baby, this was the one I've been waiting for! I just have one small thing to say in an otherwise excellent video.
Project 06 is very much the brain child of ChaosX, he is the lead developer and everything has to clear through him before getting implemented, but he is not the sole developer of the game. There are a few players to be mentioned.
BeatZ - He has been beta testing, coding, and basically helping Chaos every step of the way since development on P-06 began in 2017. He is also the lead developer of the P-06 Modloader, which is getting a HUGE update very soon, allowing for custom stages, custom characters, and mods for the game.
Gotta Play Fast - Supplied some of the edits you see in the character models, as well as helps with beta testing
JeraCyclo Gaming - Supplied a lot the assets as well as aided in beta testing
As for you Pariah, your videos were suggested to me around the time you were covering the gameplay of Sonic 06 (shocker, I know). I gotta say, your Sonic series (and videos i've watched of yours other than Sonic) have been nothing short of incredible. The concept is simple, your explanations are exceptional, and the value you provide on analysis of these games is nothing short of outstanding. It has been so refreshing to hear someone (espeically when covering the stories of games) give their opinion without any sort of pandering to the audience. Each video feels like your genuine thoughts, which is something I think the world could do with more of.
Keep on rockin man! I'll be watching :)
Thanks for the correction. And thanks especially for the kinds words. I really appreciate it.
I was just watching one of your stream uploads the other day. Fun stuff. Keep it up, dude.
One more thing I’d like to add, Stelmo streams so anyone reading this comment should check him out! He is THE Sonic P-06 speedrunner and his community is so much fun!
I just discovered your channel and I just want to say that you’re, by far, my favorite SonicTuber.
I don’t agree with all your takes, but the things you do get right about the series-amazing. Keep up the great work.
Agreed, but i like some of the others too.
@@ILikeMakeBelieveUnironically I used to watch The Sonic Show but I can’t forgive him for defending the Omens team.
@@thefastcommenter7774 same
17:46 One person, on unity in a potato/dinosaur PC until the update to the Shadow campaign, after that the potato died and had to get a new PC if i remember correctly, much more powerful. I think also for the Shadow update, it begun to be a more of a team, and some of then have worked on making P-06 having mod access now days.
Yeah if i recall correctly the new pc has like Ryzen 5 or something
The Hard DLC levels from Sonic 06 could be modded in Project 06. It's a possibility.
They could. But that would be a lot of work. Hopefully it happens. But I'm not holding my breath.
Actually, there is an actual Remake of Unleashed in the works, I think it's called UE Unleashed (meaning Unreal Engine Sonic Unleashed). It aims to recreate the entirety of Sonic Unleashed including cutscenes and the werehog.
On that note, I think it's worth mentioning STH 2006 mod for gens as it recreates almost the entirety of 06 in Sonic gens.
Another fan game that comes to mind is the Sonic riders fangame that recreated many of the original stages and boards
Some people are also just trying to turn classic sonic into the werehog
If I were to add something to this pot of remakes, I'll add Sonic 3D in 2D, a demake of Sonic 3D Blast into a Genesis game. It is in the same vein as Triple Trouble 16 Bit, and still worth checking out. I would also recommend Riders X, a remake of the first Riders Game, being made by (I think) one of the members of the P06, which looks great, even if it's really in an early state. And another "demake" I'll recommend is Colors "Demastered", which tries to port the DS version of Sonic Colors to PC. Just some things I thought I should recommend.
3D in 2D is another game so different that it's its own thing. I'll probably talk about it some other time. I did check out Riders X for this, but it's too early to really recommend it in comparison to the base game. Especially with the competitive mods. Same for Advance Revamped. And Colors Demastered is not a remake of Colors DS. All the level design there is original.
Like I said, I always have my eye on the fan game scene. I know my stuff. ;)
Sonic P06 is definitely one of the best adventure style games. If not thee best.
Nice video! Always been a fan of 06.
Project-06 proves that Sonic-06 did truly have the potential to be one of, if not the best Sonic games.
06 would probably be my favourite Sonic game if it came out polished.
that says a lot less than you think. every trash game has potential to be a great game. you're acting like 06 was some martyr when it was just an ambitious game that got rushed out.
"STH2006 Project" is also worth mentioning. It's an attempt to remake Sonic 06 in Sonic Generations with 06 physics and abilities
ChaosX is a blessing in disguise. He really shows us how Sonic 06 can be extremely good if executed correctly.
Or any video game in general.
Honorable Mention: Sonic Triple trouble 16 bit
Sonic 2HD is still being worked on: the dev still makes streams once in a a while.
I think sonic runners revival deserves more attention its so good
Damn. Forgot about that. I could have put it in here. But it's technically not a remake. I believe it's built off the original game. Either way, I'm probably gonna give it a dedicated video anyway.
I’d rather have the fans develop the games from now on!
Wish I had a pc good enough to run P-06, Every day i watch more videos about it and I want more and more to play it!
it feels really good to play imbh
I am so fucking excited for P-06's full stories to be playable. I love 06 even despite it's it's issues, and P-06 removes every single problem with the gameplay and improves on all of it. Like, this is the one game where I'll hunt down my XBOX 360 USB controller dongle and play using my official 360 controller instead of my Xbone controller, just to get closer to the feel. And, I love the story and the aesthetic so much that if ChaosX is able to get all three campaigns and adventure fields and story stuff in the project, holy shit dude. I do hope we eventually get the DLC stuff and the sidequests [in that order I don't care THAT much about Sonicman or Pele the Beloved Dog]
he isn't doing the hub world lmao.
@@GribbleGob Oh, I thought he was doing everything, with stuff like the adventure fields and sidequests waaaaay low on the priority list
I’d love to see an original Sonic game that uses the Sonic 2 HD artstyle. It’s really beautiful to look at.
It's trippy to finally have a hands-on X-treme experience knowing all it cased back in the day.
It's like acquiring a forbidden tool after the legend in which it destroyed everything.
Project 06 is absolutely amazing but something else I think is worth shouting out is the "Sonic 06 Definitive Experience" mod for Sonic Generations. It is also aiming to fully remake Sonic 06 within Sonic Generations and what's interesting is that it basically has added some of the things that Project 06 has not got around to yet. Definitive Experience doesn't have playable Shadow or Silver at the moment, but it does have hub worlds (merged together as a seamless hub world), playable Blaze with her full moveset ported over, and a couple of Town Missions implemented. "Sonic + Elise" and Gems have also been implemented. The physics are a bit more faithful to original 06 but still an improvement.
The only major downsides are that the mod is a bit finicky to set up as you need some prerequisite mods and have to set up a specific load order. Blaze and "Sonic + Elise" are also not organically integrated into the game at the moment, you can just select which one you want from the mod loader options. It's still a really ambitious project and insane how much 06 functionality has been ported over accurately. It even has a fun Easter Egg in the Soleanna City hub where they intentionally recreated that bug with the iron crate in the warehouse where it lifts off straight into the air like an elevator if you stand on top of it and keep spin kicking it!
Unpopular opinion:
I know most people prefer Sonic 1 Forever, whatever Sonic CD’s supposed to be, Sonic 2 Absolute, and Sonic 3 AIR. But I personally prefer the Sonic Origins versions of the classic games. Because as someone who really loves the Retro Engine remasters and really wanted S3&K to get that treatment, I really feel like Origins is the collection game for me. Plus I really enjoy playing the games with the new animated cutscenes. I feel like something would be missing if I didn’t see those cutscenes now. I do use some mods for Origins like a graphics mod, a SFX mod, and some OST mods, and a code to restore the life system in Anniversary Mode. With all of that, I feel like Origins is my favorite way to play the classic games.
I would love the Classic 2D Sonic Games to be remade like Hand Drawn Look like the 2HD but with proper mechanics & physics.
One fan remakes I wanna see would be Sonic Shuffle I've playing Mario Party so I think a fan remake of this Sonic party game could work if done right.
This may not count as a full on remake, but Shadow the Hedgehog Reloaded is honestly my go to for whenever I feel like playing that game, it's such a well made improvement upon the original game with so many changes that it might aswell be a replacement to the original product.
Ooo, we talking about Project 06..? Sonic the hedgehog 2 HD? 👀
I kinda want for P06 to have a 100% when the game is finished, and it allows to add back any funny glitch, that was in the original, i feel like that would be cool and funny
I think the hub worlds for Sonic 06 could use the most improvement.
1. Have the minimap be overhauled and work like in FF7 Remake or the GTA games
2. Have a full map of the hub worlds like in SADX and Frontiers via the pause menu and set waypoints like in the latter.
3. Two words: Fast travel. Even as Sonic, the Soleanna Forest is too damn big. This one could be fixed by probably making a brand new map for it and having an entirely separate arena for the Egg Genesis (kinda like Chaos 4 in SA1).
4. This one is less critical but have the townspeople look cartoony. Give them the Unleashed treatment. Also give them personalities, cause nobody wants “Welcome to Corneria”, and/or “I like swords”.
Just something I’d like to see for the hubs in P-06.
I love the way the characters jump in this version of project 06. It's like Sonic Adventure 1
I didnt know the 8 bit remakes existed. Will definatly try them out.
Sonic Extreme makes me feel sick looking at it
Fun Fact: I believe I heard that ChaosX (The lead dev of p-06) hadn't even played the original game.
Man can I just say how much yhe Unleashed Project has improved over the years. Like back when I first played it in 2015ish all it was was Generations with a custom hub world (which after a while became broken on newer hardware) and the Unleashed level design.
But now as you said to an untrained eye it is basically undistinguishable from Unleashed. And to me mods like that are why Generations is my favourite boosy sonic game
As a massive Triple Trouble fan, I'm actually really glad you chose not to cover 16-Bit here - it's a great game in its own right, but it's absolutely not Triple Trouble and removes a lot of what I liked about Triple Trouble, so seeing it touted as a remake or replacement always makes me die a little inside.
It feels like a "reboot game"
Ah yes, the one constant in the Sonic fandom: Sonic 2 HD will never be finished. Seriously, it's been getting updates since, like, 2006 and only has three levels.
Things take time - reverse engineering the original games decompiled source code and rewriting the functionality in C#, completely redrawing and reanimating everything at 4x scale, making design decisions on how to approach things that don't line up with the original game (wide-screen issues, seamless maps etc), remaking the levels - replacing tile art, redrawing the collision and making sure the objects are in place and everything's layered correctly.
On top of that, take into account that most of the team have other priorities. As S2HD is voluntary, no one gets paid for it and it can't be monetised or funded like an indie game can. So it's just a big time sink.
whats even cooler for 06 is that there's going to be brand new cutscenes replacing the small text box crappy animation transfers between characters and for other instances, i'm so excited for that
1:40 if we were able to combine this with sonic 2 absolute
I just wish sega would allow games like project 06 to be allowed to be sold like how valve does on their fans.
That reminds me of of a remake of Sonic Advance some people were working on that added a bunch of characters like Shadow and Blaze. Never heard of it it again tho, I hope it's note a dead project. Advance is my favorite 2D Sonic game, so I was really looking forward to it.
@@HarBoterMan I'm glad to hear that.
Speaking of Project 06, there seems to ALSO be people making MODS FOR the fangame, making things related to Sonic and the Black Knight and even Sonic and the Secret Rings.
I'm pretty sure those were mods.
@@spongebobfan78 Oh, I see, I see. Thanks for the info, I'll change the comment now!
Sonic Robo Blast 2 post-1998 is technically a fan remake. Because it's completely different from the original but features the same themes and stuff, like Sonic 2 SMS but more intense and at some point from 2001 to now all of the original devs left, so it's fan-supported.
So that's the best fan-made Sonic remake.
I’d go a step further, and redo the cast. My choices are the cast now, Travis Willingham as Mephiles, and Dr. Eggman and Princess Elise just have prerecorded dialogue.
I bet you this guy could make a really good Gilbert Gottfried impression his accent is sorta on point
Personally I'm not going to see inaccuracy as a negative of a remake if it makes the experience better. I don't think anyone would rather play the originals specificially because they added stuff, fixed the level design and whatnot. It's like preferring Sonic 1 over Mania because they like the limitations of the Genesis.
That is not to say that I don't understand people liking the originals or that it's wrong. I just don't see the changes in the remakes as a negative because they were done with a clear and beneficial purpose like the character swapping in the SMS one.
I like Soni fan remakes ngl they mostly do way better than SEGA
Another fanmade remake worth mentioning is the mod, Sonic Forces Reimagined which seems like a great way to get the full experience of playing Forces. It's not finished yet, but I hope to finish it in the future.
I would love to see you do a video on Sonic Triple Trouble 16-bit and Sonic Fallen Star one day soon
Sonic SMS Remake 2 does have Hyper Sonic, plus a new third entry in the series is coming with a released demo for it
Another thing to add to Project-06 is that Shadow has the Spin Dash back.
Sonic 2 absolute is rad
Honestly, I never cared about Sonic fangames or remakes or mods or anything like that.
But your opinion is the first one on TH-cam I take seriously enough to download multiple of these games and try them out.
Honestly, on other channels, I wouldn't even click on a video like this.👍
21:18 fin.
10:02 i can spot the difference, because i trained myself. Difference 1: improper Ragdoll physics. (That's the most important one because it applies to all stages.) Explanation: when you boost against a non-flying enemy while they are standing in a large group, generations tries to let the enemy your boosting against fly to a near enemy and hit it. Because they are standing in a large group it finds lots of different targets and gets confused. because a confused program can only crash, guess information, or do what it is told to do in such situations it runs the code saying to delete it instead. but this way of detecting does not work on all stages. Second way is checking if the physics look right. If a enemy is always charging into another one when you hit it (if there are any other ones) you know its gens. if there are none and the enemy just flies straight while spinning on one axis, its also gens. If the physics work properly like in unleashed, its unleashed ofc, you can just train yourself by looking at unleashed videos or performing the "checking if its gens steps."
Difference 2: wrong particle effects. Look at a jungle joyride gameplay of sonic unleashed a few times while playing attention on the particle effects and you know directly what i mean. They are a lot more realistic.
Difference 3: no qte, but this one is unreliable. Some people ported the selector qte so detecting with this qte is basically a no-go. Skyth ported the jump pad qte but nobody really uses it and you have to re-add the qte pads to the stages yourself because nobody has really done it publicly. The ramp qte is always reliable because nobody has ever tried to port that thing.
One incredible thing about Project 06 is the fact that up until a few months ago, ChaosX was using a potato pc with Athlon 2 or something
I do have to wonder what your definition of a remake even is if you include the Unleashed project that no matter how ambitions is still just a array of mod for Sonic Generations but discount Tripple Trouble 16bit for being to different.
Like it almost feels like you got the words "recreation" and "remake" mixed up as remakes rather often tend to be a lot different from the original as its goal is not to "recreate" the original but to "making it all new from the ground up"
SA2 also has a fan remake & it looks & sounds phenomenal even if it just has the Sonic & Shadow levels currently.
What is it? I've not heard of that.
@@Pariah6950 It's pretty new, it was in last year's (2022) SHC.
Project 06 made me realize that the original 06 was supposed to be our Adventure 3
Xenia works? I was trying a week or 2 ago and it crashed on the first stage without fail. I tried patching it but it asks for a xex file but I have the iso which I tried converting but it didn't work
I haven't played the po6 version but if there was a world that 06 was a great game it would have many re releases and it previous games.
Hey pariah does project 06 runs on a weak computer? Does it have a low graphics option?
They should make a version of Sonic Unleashed, but with the daytime stages controlling more like Sonic Colors.
As impressive the fan remakes are, one important thing that most people fail to consider is that, compared to the devs of the original games, the devs of the remakes had the luxury of time and feedback to enhance the game's essence. For example, the altering of level design in P-06. ChaosX has reference of complaints, bugs, and footages from the original game to base on, while Sonic Team were still designing those from the ground up at the time with a really strict deadline. And if something didn't work, ChaosX had all the time to fix it while ST didn't.
Not to discredit ChaosX, of course, but I remember when people kept bringing P-06 when Colors Ultimate released, treating it like he can make a better remaster/remake in the same dev period as SCU.
While that is true, I find it a poor excuse. Not for the devs, but for Sega. Especially at the time of 06, Sonic was one of their biggest money makers. And it's one of the most beloved and historically important gaming franchises ever. These games should not have such strict deadlines. Quality should be the priority. Fans can outdo the official stuff because they have unlimited time. So the real question is, why are Sonic games made in such a rush?
And that's still a problem. Origins was pretty poor in general. But is a joke compared to the fan versions. And that didn't have to be the case. It's a collection of all the original games, celebrating the 30th anniversary. Go all out with that and make the definitive Classic Sonic experience... No. Sega would rather make a quick cash grab.
Of course, games are a business and you can't pour unlimited money into a game. But I think one of the biggest factors that has harmed Sonic over the decades has been Sega. They have been extremely careless with how they treat the series. And to this day they have not learned their lesson. At this point it seems to me like as long as Sega controls the Sonic IP, the series will never reach its full potential.
Now that I type all this out, this might be worth a video...
When's the project 06 update that removes the "Elise" bug from the game?
P-06 will add the boss fights eventually, just not right away.
How do I get Sonic 2 Absolute and 3 A.I.R. i don’t have anyway to play them ;-;
13:40 yes sonic 06 I wish they’d officially remake it
Does Chaos X have a patreon ? Also akchually Omega's guns are not chainguns, chainguns only have one barrel. They are gatling guns, which have multiple barrels, like a Minigun
I keep hearing that the team being sonic 2 HD does live streams or something showing the progress. But I've never been able to find these so I don't know if it's true.
It's been years and just seems like a dead project to me. But you never know, they could just drop the entire game out of nowhere.
Yep there's live streams on the S2HD TH-cam channel occasionally. Although they're rarely pre-planned and more of a spontaneous thing. Best way to catch them is to either subscribe or just watch them afterwards
9:34 Wait the Sonic X-Treme remake isn't one of the most prolific remakes? I have seen and heard so much about it, i was sure it was one of them.
Sonic P-06 may be missing the hub world, boss fight, and Silver campaign. Missing Silver campaign I can understand but I am sure it will come eventually. As for missing hub world and bosses, I don't know, do we really need that?
kinda suprised you didn't mention the absolute best as it is basically an entirely new genesis sonic game made from the game gear definetily check it out
THE VIDEO IS OUT!
Bummer. As a person who played the Triple Trouble remake without knowing anything abt the original, I really would have liked if you dove into that game and the differences it had from it's original version.
I still have my Xbox 360 and Xbox one hooked up just so I can play unleashed my pc is very strong and can run unleashed fine in a ps3 emulator but most unleashed mods work with the 360 version and every time I download a 360 version of unleashed there’s no game it’s just like empty folders named dvd or something so I’m kinda stuck playing it on console
The main reason why I want to get a PC, is for all the Sonic fangames and hacks.
Why doesn't sonic look like the thumbnail. Sleek and aggressive instead we have a souless, stiff, short, doll - like version we have now
You said you can play all of unleashed on xenia without much issue. Have the crashes been fixed?
In the latest canary build, if you use the Vulkan API. There are still some graphical issues, most of which can be fixed by pressing F5.
@@Pariah6950 oh my god I have to get on this immediately.
I played on xenia about a year ago but constantly lived in fear of it crashing for seemingly no reason, so I just didn't bother with any sidequests or NPCs or anything. I wanna play the game again without being scared of crashes.
In P-06, sonic can use those 3 bars on his maturity gauge for his gem abilities, like shadow with his chaos boost.
I'm curious to see how those 3 bars will affect silver in his gameplay.
wow
hmm you convinced me to potenitally try Project 06. It's been an absurdly long time since I played the original and that's because of how unplayable it is. One thing, I hope this remake has mods to swap the character models? not a fan of the 06 designs*very ugly imo). I would love to have Unleashed Sonic's model in the game and Generations/Forces Shadow's model etc.
I still think your content is severely underrated
except maybe for thumbnails that look like murder documentaries
Thumbnails made me interested in his videos because it wasn't generic "cartoon drawing of youtuber crossing arms smugly" or "shocked meme face" like 90% of youtube.
@@GribbleGob that's fair, but I don't really remember, any explicit "cartoon youtuber mascot" things being in Sonic Fandom
Usually it's a pretty colourful thumbnail about the topic of a video
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola I just lump any cartoon mascot channel into that category because they're all the same anyways.
@@GribbleGob you ain't wrong
Sonic fans are a Luppy bunch.
The master system remake is super underrated and very much its own thing. Also it runs pretty well on ps Vita. 😇
I’ve never played the original Sonic 06 game myself, except for one unsuccessful try.
Not really interested in p06 (unless they go full hog and add the huh worlds for a complete remake), moreso in legacy of Solaris and other mods
God I hope we get a almost finished build of Xtreme leaked one day, that supposedly exists right?
Also, are you gonna do unwiished?
Xtreme was never close to being finished in any of its iterations, the farthest one along was the fisheye lens build, mostly because it was primarily developed on windows pcs, so it could be much more developed like that.
There was also Project Condor on the Sega Saturn but we only have one build of that iteration and a few screenshots of a later build that looks much more complete.
And we got plenty of level assets for that iteration, but not too much else.
@@Turbulation1 oh, well then I hope the remake gets completed, I remember reading Chris senns website, and god I want to play a full version
Fun fact (kind of): i believe there was an old demo of p-06 that i believe had only sonic's crisis city & from what i remember that old demo was even worse & even more glitched then the original
Unpopular opinion- mods and fan games are one thing, but isn't a straight up remake of an official game a betrayal of Sega's relaxed stance toward fan games? I have heard that Sega, although normally fine with fan games, will go after projects that are just remakes. And why wouldn't they, since if you have a superior remake of a game, there is little motivation to buy the original or a re-release if you don't have it already.
Not according to Sega. They've done nothing to shoot down any of these projects, nor the mobile decompilations or things like 3 AIR. They seem fine with it.
In terms of the SMS remakes, it's very easy to get roms of the original games, and the last rereleases those games had, were on systems like the Wii an 3DS which their shops have been closed down at this point.
And actually, every rerelease of the 8-bit sonic games has been the game gear versions, so the master system versions haven't even been acknowledged once by Sega, so there's no legal way to play them unless you have an authentic master system and cartridge.
@@Pariah6950 Well, assuming Sega is fine with it, I guess there isn't an issue then
criticism here: your videos are bangers, but you should have a script, like your amy video- that video only really needed to be 16 minutes long but it ended up being 40 or so minutes
I want to play Sonic p06 so bad, but i dont Think my PC Is going to be able to run It :(
OK sonic triple trouble is A remake.
Remake being recreating the whole game. Like the re2 remake, they changed everything with an entire different gameplay style and almost everything was changed. It's still a remake, a remake isn't just new textures and mods. It can definitely be a whole recreation while making the game different with inspiration as a guide. The word remake for a game can be alot of things
Project 06 made me dislike the Sonic and Elise levels more because all that happens is you lose more movement and freedom which project 06 excelled at giving. If I could just drop Elise in the sand, drowning and killing her and I get to play the level regularly? That would be awesome. Maybe it's a metaphor for being a princess where there's no freedom.
There is an android port of Sonic Advance if you would like to test it out
Where's Sonic Triple Trouble 16 bit ?
Honestly surprised that you didn't say P-06 isn't the definitive way to play 06 because it changes up too much(adding new moves to characters, changing up level design.).
Make a video about Spark 3