I’ve had that dewalt light for atleast 6-7 years, and beat the snot out of it in a shop setting and in commercial construction, and it’s still ticking away like new!
Same here, I've dropped that thing off cherry pickers and dropped it into drain pans of tractor oil, ATF, Coolant, I've oxy cut, welded and grinded some major sparks all over it - 2018 and she's still kickin'. The ratchet positions could be a bit more firm, and if they made a new one a bit more light would be nice but all in all its done its job well and it is built to last.
Just so you know, they updated the light a few years back, there's a type 1 with 250/500 lumens and a type 12 (aka type 2) with 500/1000 lumens. I did a review on my channel on the two since I have both (I use the crap out of these things) and the new one is a good upgrade from the old one.
They definitely come in handy man I have like 10 working Dewalt batteries so it's cool knowing I'll always have power for a flashlight, no it's not my like edc flashlight but it's definitely my "babe the powers out" flashlight.
FYI to those who have the Dewalt....they silently upgraded it a few years back, there's a Type 1 with 250/500 lumens and a Type 12 (aka Type 2) with 500/1000 lumens. I checked both out and measured them and the new one is a fairly big upgrade in light output. Of course as usual, TTC bringing all the options to light (pun intended :D)
Yeah I got the new one and it’s a massive amount of light output even in broad daylight. It also fits in a lot of weird spots to get the angle just right. I really like it.
Ha! I have 2 ones and 1 two. The version 2 is a much warmer less blue light. I've had them all for years and never noticed until now either. :-) the things you learn!
Heh. this is about having another tool to throw into a bundle so they can claim more pieces even if one of them is not terribly functional. same with the mini speakers.
@@TorqueTestChannel I am surprised how many of the name brand assortments at the big box stores are still brushed tools. Hasn't brushless been "the hot new thing" for about a decade by now?
@@1978garfield All about pinching pennies on sets likely being given as gifts by well-meaning people who don't know better (or understand the concept of "less is more").
I have the underwhelming 100 lumen m18 light, it came in a kit fourish yeara ago. While its not the brightest i dropped it and beaten it up pretty hard hasn't failed me yet and it runs forever on a 5.0. Its not perfect but im happywith it nonetheless. @@TorqueTestChannel
While these lights may not be blinding brightness, I think they do what they are supposed to do very well. You can turn on one of these guys, hook it under your car/put it on the ground and you don't have to worry about batteries dying or brightness decreasing for the length of the day. The super bright pocket lights/pen lights are really (in my opinion) meant for more of a "I need a quick blast of really good lighting because I want to look at XYZ thing for a minute." Crazy runtimes at advertised brightness. I dig it.
Yeah, you wouldn't really want anything brighter. You're not trying to flood a large area with light, chances are you working in a cramped space with lots of things for it to reflect off of and blind you if it was too bright.
I've always been disappointed with the run time of my m18 light. For the weak output it has, seems like it should run alot longer. As a practical matter, I get plenty of run time to be useful. But compared to the cheap rechargeables that fit in my pocket, the 18v runtime is disappointing.
Yeah no man, these are embarrassing. New flashlights don't have to be run at max all the time, it's about options. You can have a blinding 15k lumen light that barely lasts 30 minutes, and a 500 lumen light that lasts all day IN THE SAME TOOL.
The Dewalt hood light is the best damn work light I've ever used. Strap that sucker between studs, hang it from the ceiling, etc and you get bright clean diffuse light. Flawless.
I have the same thing and it for sure is near indestructible after a decade. The only downside is eventually the LED's start to die. I am down to one and somehow that little sucker is still hanging on but I wish there was an official repair kit for the LED's.
@wiredforstereo thought about it. Even watched a video of a guy doing it. Used to solder caps onto dead monitors for work but figured by the time I sourced some quality LEDs and the time spent soldering them in I would be better off getting a light built with quality LEDs.
@wiredforstereo that would be why I do it. I like taking care of what you have and repair over replace. At some point though it comes time to let it die. Like my 1994 Accord.
My dad has the dewalt, I have the makita. We bought them both for work we were doing in my basement. His was brighter, but mine articulated better for walls and ceilings. Mine also lasted about 6 hours longer, probably because it wasn't as bright. But it was bright enough for what we were doing.
Carpenter here. I’ve had several of the Dewalt 1000 lum. L050 lights. I like the output and they go quite a while on 5 and 6 AH bats. And I can tell you they take a beating. I have seen a couple get broken but it was from baaaad falls. Seen mine take many bad falls and only get scratches.
I’ve had the Dewalt for years, I love it, great for under the car, under the sink, additional desktop lighting, camping table light, etc. Super good tool.
Can't beat a headlamp all day every day... having the light aimed always were you're looking and having use of both hands is the way to go especially in an attic or under a cabinet or in the while working on a car
Along the same vein as a headlamp, I use the Coast safety glasses with built-in light. It always lights up where you are looking, and it doubles as a pair of safety glasses. So it is a 2-in1.
I love the idea of a headlamp, and the flat cob style I have yet to try may be ok, but between sweat and the places I have to stick my head I am always knocking them off or into my face.
Headlamps are great. However, they can go through batteries pretty quick, and aren't usually easily rechargeable. And of course they can get in the way too.
The nice thing about the dewalt tool is it warns you the battery is low by blinking a few times and then dimming. This feature saved my butt. I was in a paper mill with no power, deep inside the darkest regions. Had the light just died I would have been in absolute pitch black with hazards all around. I foolishly had gone into the situation with no other light sources. This feature allowed my to locate another battery and locate my phone and keep it in my pocket as an additional light source.
I've had this DeWalt light for 4 years now. Looks brand new and operates perfectly. My only gripe is the pivoting joint should be tighter and not move out of its setting so easily. As far as low runtime, if it makes it to 6 hours before it drops usability then I'm fine with that. Just pop in a fresh battery and recharge the spent one. You don't need a long throwing light meant to illuminate your work area. I've got an Olight monster thrower if I need to see down the block.
@@bigboxes I solved the floppy pivot joint issue by squeezing a couple inch section of a mountain bike tire innertube over the joint itself. It is now perfect as there is enough support/friction to keep it from losing position.
@gregwassman9487 can you elaborate? Did you wedge the inner tube into the hinge while assembled or did you take the hinge apart to get it in there? I definitely want to give your idea a try.
I think it would be a good idea to add the lights colour temp, as blueish light isn’t great for your eyes in confined spaces like electric boxes, or engine bays under prolonged usage. Also bluer light is not great if you’re doing wiring or electrical work, with different coloured wires.
With respect, lumen output is the last thing I look for when shopping for one of these power tool lights; in most cases 100+ is fine. I have that dewalt light and always run it on low. The most important factors for my for these kinds of lights are beam pattern, runtime and durability.
@@mediocreman2you can turn them down. Stop running your lights at max, it's about options. You sound like the fudds saying you shouldn't have detachable magazines for deer hunting becuase they only ever fire one shot, or some of the tards I've run into saying you shouldn't have more than 200ish horsepower becuase you "don't need it"
i have the HF Hercules 20v spotlight. Its supposedly 2k lumens and I think its accurate or close to it. I love this flashlight. I use mostly Milwaukee but i have Hercules too and this light was only 30 dollars. If you already have Hercules tools definitely buy it. Super bright even at a couple hundred yards and super long run time. My dad and brother didnt like how big it is which is true but for how long the battery lasts and easy battery swaps they replaced their normal lights with these when going hunting. I highly recommend it, it does put out some heat if left on high after 15 to 30 min but i never noticed any reduction in brightness. I use it all the time and so do my brother and dad. Its great so far weve had them close to a year now.
1:32 I have that light. I've also had it for 10 years I think. It hangs on my toolbox next to the Kobalt bar style light and gets used when I need a second light. Both were included in kits.
I work in a farm shop a lot and what I use is the Milwaukee Rover light. Its got a pretty strong magnetic base and a spring loaded clamp for 2x4s if necessary. Its got a front panel that can be aimed a lot of places and 3 modes (I only use high but if you want it to last longer the lower modes arent bad either.) It'll go quite a few hours on the typical 5.0 battery and the thing is tougher than nails. I've dropped it on the concrete countless times and dropped it into 2 oil drain pans, completely submerging it in old used motor oil both times and it still works perfectly. I love that light and I'll never go back to any other style.
Something that needs to be considered aside from pure light output (claimed and actual) is actual functionality. Don't need a 1000 lumen light under a kitchen sink for fix plumbing or inside small room to run trim work. Just hurts the eyes and creates extra heat that certainly isn't needed. I have a DCL040 that is more than bright enough for most tasks and the 12V DCL510 which has also been plenty bright enough for every task. There are also much larger area lights offered, just have to match the right light to the right environment instead of asking one light to do it all.
Not sure how old you are, but as my eyes get older (in my 40s now), I find the brighter the light the better. I'm sure I'm spoiled, because guys 20 years ago were lucky to have a crappy maglight probably throwing 100-200lm max, but I find 1500-2000lm to be a pretty good level for task lighting. One of the other benefits of brighter light is that I don't need to adjust it often, as the throw/scatter is enough to see what I'm doing. I really like my 1500lm M18 Rover (2361-20) for working under sinks, for example, since the whole area is illuminated no matter where it's directly pointed.
@@bnasty267 I'm 43 and carry a Streamlight Wedge EDC and even the low 300 lumen setting is more than bright enough and even too bright still for close up tasks. My goto headlamp is a Klein 56048, almost always use the 100 lumen flood mode, sometimes the 200 lumen spot.
Especially in an emergency/survival situation. The Ryobi giving 25 hours of sufficient light per battery is going to be much better than 5 hours of blinding light. If you use a worklight every day, the DeWalt might be ok, with its higher battery usage/output and higher cost. But the low cost, low output, high runtime of the Ryobi is a much better deal for almost everyone.
I'm amazed the Ryobi held onto the battery during those drops, and a "big" 4 amp battery at that! My favorite is still one of the old Ryobi Blue lights with a third party LED conversion, runs for more hours than I care on a 2 amp battery.
The Milwaukee 2364-20 M12 Rover Flood Light has treated me well over several years but is a little bulky but comes in handy doing commercial, home, and auto work
Id love to see the DCL044 tested. On my the most convenient lights for working under something or being able to magnet it onto frames, metal ceilings, etc.
I love these videos; sound buyers advice, a dash of comedy, scientific review methods- and a damn lot of hard work clearly goes into the making. I mean, how long do you have to stay awake for to record a 22hr light runtime...?! Good work sir, can't wait for friday :-)
Now we need to see how the big lights stack up! I have a gen4 Ridgid light cannon and it's a beast on output, but eats battery. I'm interested in how it compares to the other brands.
The lights are one of my favorite things to watch on this channel. I don't think there is anything I can think of that you haven't tested for. Maybe waterproofness? Wanted to add my suggestion for the next round of testing. For my work, I mainly use Milwaukee tools for their durability and power. Don't need nice tools at home. Got a set of Kobalt tools and they are fine. One of the tools was a work light Model #KML 124B-03. 700lum and with a 4ah battery, lasts nearly all day or more. I suggest to check that out to continue this series. Keep up the good work ya'll.
Great job. I've had the amazon "look alike" for a Makita for a couple years. I love it. Works amazing. Very handy. And dare I say, much better than the Makita Branded flashlight I have....
I actually quite like the old incandescent Ryobi worklight, both the old blue one and the newer green one. They won't break any lighting records but working under a dash it's easier at least on my eyes to have the warmer light up close than it is a bright white light
Might need to wait for a larger testing sphere, but some of the compact worklights are pretty useful. I have a few lights on Bosch 18v, M12, and EGO 56v. The Bosch GLI18V-800N is decent, although I prefer the warmer color temperature of the M12 2362 and 2367. The 2362 has terrible efficiency (
I have the DEWALT 20V Work Light bar I use it almost every day. often on low setting for close quarters working on cars. I added a light diffuser film to it and it works for filming car stuff as well
I actually have the DeWalt DCL050 I got for Christmas. I use it literally all the time, for everything, and it's been a real Godsend. I absolutely recommend it to everyone on the DeWalt platform. Originally I wanted to get it after the big winter storms knocked out power for almost four days here, so when I got it I actually did some testing myself: a 6AH makes it last roughly 14-15 hours on high, while also providing a staunch enough base to not worry about it tipping over, and it's bright enough that it can light up the garage or an entire room, without even bouncing the light off a ceiling. The hook can be clipped in for storage, locking it somewhere or swung around for hanging from different angles easier. Doubles as a decent hand warmer, too. And while I am very careful with my tools as is, I am very glad to know this thing is a real juggernaut, because I always look for that in anything I buy; hence my fascination with Elzetta flashlights in general. My only real gripe is that when I am holding it and moving it back and forth it does tend to flop around, as it's mostly meant to be stationary, but thats minor and has not hindered me significantly in any scenario.
I still have and use my old school 18v Ryobi Work light all the time, I got it in a kit around 2008 when the tools were still Blue and it's still going strong with the same bulb it came with. What I find crazy is my crappy old Ryobi flashlight from 08' is seems brighter than every single one of those tool brand flashlights they are selling and it's almost 20 years old now. 😂
@Torque Test Channel Thank you for testing these lights The run time graph is what i really wanted to see. The lumen output is low on most of these lights, but it remains at 90% (for hours!) until they completely drop off.
I have an old Makita LXLM03 I bought for working in the garage, attic, etc. but I find it downstairs in my house and use it daily. As I get older and the eye sight fails, that thing and reading glasses really help in doing just about anything when I need to be able to see well.
I have 4 of the porter cable 20 v. flashlights . house, car, garage. In the house I will go looking for something without turning on the lights. in the garage it shines on the point I am drilling. It searches the backs of shelves and into boxes. The one in the car goes into all garage and estate sales, and auctions.
As a Ryobi user, I'm happy to see the results of the flashlight. I have a pair of these, and two of them make a huge difference working in low lighting. Even with a 2AH they last for hours and hours. Other commenters mentioned the Ryobi spot light - but my favorite light by far is the Ryobi project light (P790). It swivels two ways, has a hook, and is advertised 900 lumens (with mutliple modes). I'd love to see it tested, because I'm not aware of any similar competition light with this festure- It's hybrid, so you can use it with an extension cord for extended use.
I have the Ridgid cheap light, I never use it anymore. I default to the big spot light. I have the older model that came with the 12v plug for the car. I bought the newer one when I was down at my sister's place for her. The only real thing new about it is how it pivots and the trigger turns it on and then to the 3 levels of lights. The old one has a knob in the rear of the light. The new one does not have the 12v so that kinda sucks. So I was saying that regardless of what I am doing I choose the spot light over anything else I have and I have a lot of lights to choose from. The mat light, the old flex light, the old rotate tiny spot light, the bobble light and I think that is it. I only pull those out when we go camping or in the event of a long power outage. The big spot light is very handy. Point it up while in a cabinet working lights up the whole thing. Doing any kind of work in a dark room is nice. I am looking at the newer ryobi lights as well to maybe get a new better light. Yet I think I will stick to what I have.
I bought a flashlight a while ago that has a bunch of neat tricks. It’s the Sofirn IF23. It advertises 4000 lumens, but I don’t think it makes nearly that much. It also has a spot and a bar light. Takes a 21700 cell, has usb-c charging and reverse charging. Has a magnet, and has a separate strip of rgb leds that can be adjusted to whatever color you want and set to flash. I’m pretty happy with it, and it only cost $40 when I got it!
I got my DeWalt light about a year ago for about $50 and I love it! The coverage is great up close and far away. It's definitely taken some tumbles off the ladder a few times but still works like new.
It was not featured, but I had to use the Makita DML816 a whole lot and it's done its job super well. I think one of the things that some manufacturers could improve with these is the hook they come with, and to provide an optional magnetic fixing point.
I have the Snap on version CTLED861 that takes the 14.4V with the magnetic bottom attachment. The battery lasts a week on low and has taken many falls so far and even survived a coolant bath after I cleaned it out of course, but it is my favorite light I have out of the milwaukee, streamlight, matco, and saber light.
I have a good idea for you to make a video. Compare the best Chinese power tools against other power tools like: makita. dewalt. milwaukee, flex etc. Find out how good is the quality, price, strength and durability. You have the best TH-cam channel about power tools. You can get everything easily.
I can vouch for the abusable dewalt work light, the only flaw aside from top heavy is the hinge pinching your skin if not careful. Have 3 of them and the big spotlight.
I’ve added a couple of layers of gorilla tape to the bottom of the light section to create friction between the light and the handle. This way it doesn’t swing so easily and pinch your skin.
Weirdly, the Ryobi spotlight is fantastic. I got it for my father in law, and had to pick one up for myself. It's insanely bright and super far throw, we use it on our property when checking out things across the field at night. Worth checking out.
If your happy with it that's great, but have you compared it to something of similar price by a quality flashlight company? Because when you do your opinion might change...a LOT 😅
@@aussiehardwood6196 yeah. I have serval high end flashlights, work lights and spotlights. It's a good form factor for what it's used for, has a big, often cheap battery that's easy to keep charged and it's cheap for what it is. I'm not saying it's the best light in the world. I'm just saying for what it is, it's very good and useful.
@@aussiehardwood6196 Are there better options that illuminate on a similar/better distance, broader or same range, and will last about 22 - 24 hrs? Any one that you recommend?
The DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, et al flashlights only exist to allow a different catalog number for the bazillion part kits, so the kits at HomeDesperate and LowestExpectaions are not the same, and they don’t have to meet each other’s loss leader sale prices.
I have the Ridgid R8693 light. With its swivel head, I can put the light exactly were I need it. With a 1.5A battery, it will last for hours. I have dropped it a few times at 3ft height and a couple times higher than that and still working great.
You just don’t need a super powerful light for doing close work on metal/shiny/reflective surfaces (automotive, hvac, etc). You just need a decent whitish light with good spill and large focus point, and most importantly; a super long run time with a basic battery pack. The Ryobi works awesome for that for probably 75% of people, and the Dewalt is obviously better with regard to spill, but at quite a higher cost.
I have a headlamp coming my way for my tool bag because it’s smaller and I can wear it. That being said, I expect my Milwaukee light to outlast it. I’ve dropped it from about 13 feet up a ladder and it works fine. No cracks. Battery is fine. M12. I just need it up in ceilings really so you can’t go wrong with it.
I have the Kobalt light, it’s bright enough for me and I love that it just runs forever without dimming. Maybe I’ve never had a expensive flash light but I feel like all the smaller flashlights just die so quickly.
I’ve owned them from quite a few brands and I’m not kidding when I say that Hilti got it right on their three lights. The handheld folding mini flood takes a belt clip…genius. Super ergonomic and the hook works perfectly. The larger 3000 lumen flood folds compact, can fit on a door, stud, framing member etc. It has a perfectly located handle for handheld use. The light “head” rotates so you can position the light master securing it. The new tower is built on the Flex except the light itself is perfect. PERFECT. The battery door is finicky on the tower. The only bad thing I can say.
Thanks for the comparison! I'm on the Ryobi, Worx, and M12 battery platforms so this video was useful to me. For $20 and 24hrs of run time, one of my Ryobi batteries may spend full time in a flashlight!
I have tried a few models but never was really impressed. I recently tried a Klarus WL3, and BANG, that was it. Best work/camping/utilitylamp I have ever used.
I bought light bars for my trailer. I had a couple extra and added DeWalt adapters to them. Way better and cheaper than manufacturer lights. The only problem is no low voltage disconnects, but I never use them long enough for that to be an issue. Wait a minute, DeWalt makes a 1,000 lumen light now?!?
@@ExcavationNationI have them on the exterior of the trailer set up as area lights. Currently I occasionally use them for working around the trailer, but when finished the trailer will be a camper conversion and they'll be used for lighting up a campsite.
I think you’ll love the Makita DML808 and the DML807. The 808 having an adjustable projector lense has been great. Prices do suck for them, but I liked them more than I thought I would.
I use the lights more than any other tools in my battery powered tool line ups. I have the kobalt hand held which is pretty good. But then i do have the m12 rover flood light and m18 1st gen rover flood light.(have to take it apart and re solder a couple of the connectors) rechargeable flash lights are amazing. You dont mind leaving them on until they die. Unlike the non rechargeables.
Holy cow, I've had that Dewalt DCL050 for several years now, never even realized how well it measures up. Well, I've also got the DCL043 spotlight which claims 1500 lumens. That one also has the Red LED mode, I guess that's useful as a signal light or something.
Ryobi has a 2400 lumen work light that holds onto 2-by lumber in crawl spaces or attics, it will also hang onto a vehicle hood easily. I never use little lights anymore except for unclogging a sink.
I’ve been looking for a good cordless spotlight to kick around in my truck with my tools and what not. Considering the fact that I’m already neck deep in the M-12 universe, I think it goes without saying that I’ve just found the perfect candidate. Thanks again for these videos, TTC!
I’ve had my dewalt stick light for 10 years and beat the hell out of it- bought a few more to use in the shop/for construction. The only issue I had was when using a walkie talkie near it killed the LED driver board.
Let’s be honest with ourselves, here. Nobody drops flashlights from varying height a “because science”. It’s “because breaking things is fun” 🙂 Love what you do. Keep it up.
it would be sweet if you tested more of the tool lights. these run forever so these seem like great camping lights for an entire weekend i have a more expensive flood light by ridgid and its bright and nice. i know Milwaukee makes a badass light its just crazy expensive
I have the M12 version of the 100-lumen M18 flashlight. While not the brightest light for the money it still casts a decent amount of light to see well when going outside at night. A friend got it for me as a birthday gift about four or five years ago and I use my 6.0Ah M12 pack on it. With intermittent use it quite literally lasts a year on a charge. I charge it so infrequently that when the battery does finally drain I always think there's something wrong with my light. Then I need to say to myself (It ain't got no gas in it.) So I can't complain only needing to charge it once a year. :)
The big DeWalt 1000 lumen flashlight with 4 lights has one red light and three bright lights that throw the beam pretty far. We now have the small version as papaw has either misplaced it or it walked away when the roofer was here checking the attic crawlspace.
Candela is a property of the light source and only changes with direction. Lux is a measurement made by a receiver at a distance from the light source - it decreases with the square of the distance. For example, at 2m the lux will be 1/4 of what it was at 1m. In practice, candelas are measured by measuring the lux @ 1m. So yes, at a distance of 1m, the candelas and lux are the same.
Is it crazy that I found the brief info you gave on the new TKlamp device far more interesting than all the flashlights? For flashlights, I carry a Coast HX5 (with 14650s) in my pocket every day. Hardly ever need more than that. I do have the M12 spotlight for some distance use, it's been excellent.
Ive got quite the array of makita lights, i do alot of nightwork, and im happy they just work, last long and can take more than 10 uses before they need maintenance (little milwaukee lights seem to need a new cell every few months which is dumb)
I bought a work light that uses m18 batteries on Amazon, and it's worked great for 2yrs so far, and seems to put out a great amount of light. Especially for the 30 bucks I paid! Hope to see an Amazon tool brand battery light shootout soon!!
I have the ryobi light because it came with their $220 kit that includes loads of tools and two batteries. I thought I’d never use it and never would have bought it as a standalone item, but it’s actually been surprisingly useful.
For the money and similar pack size, i ended with the husky 2k "triple leaf" work light. Also sold as a different brand at costco. The husky at HD is $50 includes a tripod, integrated battery. Its like a poorman's light tower, yet versatile enough to be used as one of these regular work lights. 3 light levels, 3 color temperatures. Im really cheap and feel dirty about spending $50 on a light when i already have multiple kit included lights. But the husky is really nice. The one thing that's missing which other similar designs include, is USB power out to charge your phone. Then itd be perfect.
Where I work we must have about 100 of those Dewalts and they have been holding up shockingly well for the last 2 years or so. Some chemicals we deal with have fogged some of the plastic lenses but it just gives them a more diffused effect. Only downside is the ratchet function of the head gives out over time.
Work lights that you hang or sit at a jobsite for a period of time is really where these kinds of things make sense, and get a 'real' flashlight for flashlight jobs. I have one of the Ryobi ones you jam onto a 2x4 or stick on a tripod (not really) that can also run corded.
Ryobi lighting is really good. I have several of their lights and they've all performed really well. Home Depot recently (may still) have their 3 panel hybrid 3,000 lumen light, their 3,000 lumen spotlight and a flex shaft ...(like on a bench grinder but with a 16" or so flex shaft with an affixed pen style lamp.)... for $99. Some Ryobi stuff may be underwhelming but the cost/performance/available options of their lighting is the best I've found.
@@TorqueTestChannel What if you tested the output you get off those 3 inches and you multiply that result but it’s ratio of length to length able to be tested? For example if the hood light has an active light section of 18 inches, and you can test 3 inches at a time. Would multiplying your reading by 6 get you pretty close to the actual output?
Don't. Make a few standard settings like under the hood or under the car and measure lux on a few points. In addition you can measure color temp, beam shape and durability with liquids.
That’s a good idea. Make a test platform, hang the lights 3’ up and measure points for candela like nine places around a 5x5’ square. That with all the qualitative stuff would be very meaningful
@TorqueTestChannel make a small tent out of black-out curtains. Put the lux meter inside and the light 1m away on a alt-az mount. Take lots of lux @ 1m measurements whilst changing the azimuth and elevation. Try to get the measurements spaced evenly over the surface of the 1m radius sphere. Then take the average of those lux (lm/m^2) measurements and multiply by 4/3*pi (m^2), which will give you lumens. Compare with your sphere and apply a correction factor if there's a consistent scaling error or offset.
I've been wondering about these because it's a natural evolution to make the droplight part of a cordless tool lineup, but every brand seems to be annoyed by the idea. Corded led droplights also aren't particularly good but the conversion from AC power probably has something to do with that. I've been wondering if the bigger floodlights are supposed to take the place of these, they're a lot larger and probably are meant for area lighting at construction sites but seem to be closer to the underhood lights for output. It's definitely possible to get good undercarriage lighting from a tool battery, both the pistol grip floodlights and the floor standing floodlights are advertising 2k lumens which is too much to have to avoid looking at while sliding around under a car on jack stands.
These lights (that use the tool batteries) are perfect for use during power outages. I always have a handful of fully charged tool batteries and so can provide light for many hours without power. I also have a USB charging adapter that works with the tool batteries so I can keep my phone charged.
I think most people who use/need a portable light to do work really need 3 types. A hand held spot that will blister paint if nescessary, A large area light that isnt to bright because a bright light casts more contrasting shadows and the difference in illumination I think makes stuff more difficult to see. Think the sodium high pressure lamps used for road lighting. Finally a medium powered flood to light a small area. I wish they still made Big Jim torches. I converted mine to use a makita 18 volt with the aid of a transformer /buck converter from Ebay and on a 5 AH it's good for over 8 hours and it gives plenty of light spread in a spot/flood style. Have done heaps of fiddly jobs in the dark using only that as a light source.
Besides the abysmal output of the Milwaukee pivot head lights, and I guess the others, is the fact that none of them (except snap-on) allow you to point the light down. This effectively makes them useless for working on top of anything like an engine. Really pathetic as the round light and 18V battery would make a killer work light if it had better range of motion
Bosch has a couple lights that can do the same for much less money. I own a couple of FL12 light that I use when working on my truck and can either hang it from the hood latch, mount on a tripod or stick it to any metal surface with the couple magnets it has on the hinge. And it can tilt up to 200 degrees so it works great as an overhead light. Those are only 330 lumens but Bosch has a 420 lumen light that can also strap from above and tilt but it's missing the magnets and tripod mount for extra convenience
I'd definitely add the Skil PwrCore 12 Mechanical light to the mix. Very nice output. Rated around 600lm I believe, and has superior articulation to get the light where it's needed. Because of that extra articulation, it may suffer in drop testing. I try not to drop tools, but have dropped it a couple of times, and it did fine, but only from the height of a cars hood. Home testing brought it to around 7-8 hours on high output with a 2ah battery. It was more of a need for light during a power outage then an actual test, but was good to know Id have light for many hours next time the power goes out. Also good to know it'll last thru whatever project I need it for. One 2ah battery lasted me 3 days on a camping trip also. It got lightly rained on, wet from morning dew, and very dirty, but never failed.
I was gonna say the Makita spot/flood light is pretty legit but definitely not going to fit in the lumen tester. But it is definitely good and I've used it to light up work areas indoors and outside at night, or to see things far away at night. That said also have the foldable stick style light from Makita, and it's rarely used. It's not as bright as modern led work light sticks, but one thing it has going for it,.it'll probably run all day no prob on one battery.
The M12 49-24-0146 is a stout little piece. It's not bright, the magnet is weak, but it has a long run time and takes a beating. The form factor with smaller M12 batteries is close to a traditional C or D cell unit. At $25 bare it's hard to complain. Mine was included in a bundle which I assume was the reason Milwaukee made it in the first place.
I’ve had that dewalt light for atleast 6-7 years, and beat the snot out of it in a shop setting and in commercial construction, and it’s still ticking away like new!
when I saw them beat the shit out of that first light I was really thinking durability and battery runtime are where these guys are gonna shine.
Same here, I've dropped that thing off cherry pickers and dropped it into drain pans of tractor oil, ATF, Coolant, I've oxy cut, welded and grinded some major sparks all over it - 2018 and she's still kickin'.
The ratchet positions could be a bit more firm, and if they made a new one a bit more light would be nice but all in all its done its job well and it is built to last.
Just so you know, they updated the light a few years back, there's a type 1 with 250/500 lumens and a type 12 (aka type 2) with 500/1000 lumens. I did a review on my channel on the two since I have both (I use the crap out of these things) and the new one is a good upgrade from the old one.
@@elliotkane4443 I guess you can open it up and take the ballast weight out of it.
They definitely come in handy man I have like 10 working Dewalt batteries so it's cool knowing I'll always have power for a flashlight, no it's not my like edc flashlight but it's definitely my "babe the powers out" flashlight.
FYI to those who have the Dewalt....they silently upgraded it a few years back, there's a Type 1 with 250/500 lumens and a Type 12 (aka Type 2) with 500/1000 lumens. I checked both out and measured them and the new one is a fairly big upgrade in light output.
Of course as usual, TTC bringing all the options to light (pun intended :D)
Yeah I got the new one and it’s a massive amount of light output even in broad daylight. It also fits in a lot of weird spots to get the angle just right. I really like it.
Ha! I have 2 ones and 1 two. The version 2 is a much warmer less blue light. I've had them all for years and never noticed until now either. :-) the things you learn!
@@fredio54 lol right? I didn't even know until I picked up a second on sale for $50 CAD and was like, how bout that, brighter!
@@fredio54 Are there any easy ways to identify?
Hopefully they upgraded the swivel notches too, the head of mine flops around way more than I'd like.
Heh. this is about having another tool to throw into a bundle so they can claim more pieces even if one of them is not terribly functional. same with the mini speakers.
Exactly, which is sad
And usb chargers
@@TorqueTestChannel I am surprised how many of the name brand assortments at the big box stores are still brushed tools.
Hasn't brushless been "the hot new thing" for about a decade by now?
@@1978garfield All about pinching pennies on sets likely being given as gifts by well-meaning people who don't know better (or understand the concept of "less is more").
I have the underwhelming 100 lumen m18 light, it came in a kit fourish yeara ago. While its not the brightest i dropped it and beaten it up pretty hard hasn't failed me yet and it runs forever on a 5.0. Its not perfect but im happywith it nonetheless. @@TorqueTestChannel
While these lights may not be blinding brightness, I think they do what they are supposed to do very well. You can turn on one of these guys, hook it under your car/put it on the ground and you don't have to worry about batteries dying or brightness decreasing for the length of the day. The super bright pocket lights/pen lights are really (in my opinion) meant for more of a "I need a quick blast of really good lighting because I want to look at XYZ thing for a minute." Crazy runtimes at advertised brightness. I dig it.
Yeah I'm not sure this channel understands that more isn't always more.
Very true! I've had my hilti lamp on for 10 hours straight and still on 2 battery dots left
Yeah, you wouldn't really want anything brighter. You're not trying to flood a large area with light, chances are you working in a cramped space with lots of things for it to reflect off of and blind you if it was too bright.
I've always been disappointed with the run time of my m18 light. For the weak output it has, seems like it should run alot longer. As a practical matter, I get plenty of run time to be useful. But compared to the cheap rechargeables that fit in my pocket, the 18v runtime is disappointing.
Yeah no man, these are embarrassing. New flashlights don't have to be run at max all the time, it's about options. You can have a blinding 15k lumen light that barely lasts 30 minutes, and a 500 lumen light that lasts all day IN THE SAME TOOL.
I think I've hit my head with that Dewalt light more times than any other tool.
The Dewalt hood light is the best damn work light I've ever used. Strap that sucker between studs, hang it from the ceiling, etc and you get bright clean diffuse light. Flawless.
Yes, I have 3 of them, great for pop up gazebos and under decks and in basements clipped onto joists etc. Very versatile. Decent colour.
I have the same thing and it for sure is near indestructible after a decade. The only downside is eventually the LED's start to die. I am down to one and somehow that little sucker is still hanging on but I wish there was an official repair kit for the LED's.
@wiredforstereo thought about it. Even watched a video of a guy doing it. Used to solder caps onto dead monitors for work but figured by the time I sourced some quality LEDs and the time spent soldering them in I would be better off getting a light built with quality LEDs.
@wiredforstereo that would be why I do it. I like taking care of what you have and repair over replace. At some point though it comes time to let it die. Like my 1994 Accord.
My dad has the dewalt, I have the makita. We bought them both for work we were doing in my basement.
His was brighter, but mine articulated better for walls and ceilings. Mine also lasted about 6 hours longer, probably because it wasn't as bright. But it was bright enough for what we were doing.
Carpenter here. I’ve had several of the Dewalt 1000 lum. L050 lights. I like the output and they go quite a while on 5 and 6 AH bats. And I can tell you they take a beating. I have seen a couple get broken but it was from baaaad falls. Seen mine take many bad falls and only get scratches.
Also, in seeing one come apart, the DCL050 has a chunk of cast iron in it’s base for stability. Thought it was clever.
I’ve had the Dewalt for years, I love it, great for under the car, under the sink, additional desktop lighting, camping table light, etc. Super good tool.
Can't beat a headlamp all day every day... having the light aimed always were you're looking and having use of both hands is the way to go especially in an attic or under a cabinet or in the while working on a car
Along the same vein as a headlamp, I use the Coast safety glasses with built-in light. It always lights up where you are looking, and it doubles as a pair of safety glasses. So it is a 2-in1.
I love the idea of a headlamp, and the flat cob style I have yet to try may be ok, but between sweat and the places I have to stick my head I am always knocking them off or into my face.
Headlamps are great. However, they can go through batteries pretty quick, and aren't usually easily rechargeable. And of course they can get in the way too.
LITEBAND PROs are pretty dang great.
@@Panthers89Fan9000000 just looked them up and I gotta say wow that's cool they even sell them with reading lenses🤯
The nice thing about the dewalt tool is it warns you the battery is low by blinking a few times and then dimming. This feature saved my butt. I was in a paper mill with no power, deep inside the darkest regions. Had the light just died I would have been in absolute pitch black with hazards all around. I foolishly had gone into the situation with no other light sources. This feature allowed my to locate another battery and locate my phone and keep it in my pocket as an additional light source.
Agreed, that feature is useful and much appreciated.
Most lights I've owned do that. Or have an additional blinking light that shows low battery while it slowly dims.
Ive had my Ridgid version for years. Mine is the 300 lumen one. Love it. Runs forever, very durable and handy as heck.
That dewalt light has gotten me through many hvac jobs
I've had this DeWalt light for 4 years now. Looks brand new and operates perfectly. My only gripe is the pivoting joint should be tighter and not move out of its setting so easily. As far as low runtime, if it makes it to 6 hours before it drops usability then I'm fine with that. Just pop in a fresh battery and recharge the spent one. You don't need a long throwing light meant to illuminate your work area. I've got an Olight monster thrower if I need to see down the block.
@@bigboxes I solved the floppy pivot joint issue by squeezing a couple inch section of a mountain bike tire innertube over the joint itself. It is now perfect as there is enough support/friction to keep it from losing position.
I just hate when it startes flappin in the breeze, when I don't want it to. flippy floppy!
@@gregwassman9487 Thanks!
@gregwassman9487 can you elaborate? Did you wedge the inner tube into the hinge while assembled or did you take the hinge apart to get it in there? I definitely want to give your idea a try.
I think it would be a good idea to add the lights colour temp, as blueish light isn’t great for your eyes in confined spaces like electric boxes, or engine bays under prolonged usage. Also bluer light is not great if you’re doing wiring or electrical work, with different coloured wires.
I use the dewalt almost everyday, love this light!
With respect, lumen output is the last thing I look for when shopping for one of these power tool lights; in most cases 100+ is fine. I have that dewalt light and always run it on low.
The most important factors for my for these kinds of lights are beam pattern, runtime and durability.
Exactly. Even on high in a cramped space, it's too bright. I need to see when I'm working on, not what the neighbor is working on.
@@mediocreman2you can turn them down. Stop running your lights at max, it's about options. You sound like the fudds saying you shouldn't have detachable magazines for deer hunting becuase they only ever fire one shot, or some of the tards I've run into saying you shouldn't have more than 200ish horsepower becuase you "don't need it"
i have the HF Hercules 20v spotlight. Its supposedly 2k lumens and I think its accurate or close to it. I love this flashlight. I use mostly Milwaukee but i have Hercules too and this light was only 30 dollars. If you already have Hercules tools definitely buy it. Super bright even at a couple hundred yards and super long run time. My dad and brother didnt like how big it is which is true but for how long the battery lasts and easy battery swaps they replaced their normal lights with these when going hunting.
I highly recommend it, it does put out some heat if left on high after 15 to 30 min but i never noticed any reduction in brightness. I use it all the time and so do my brother and dad. Its great so far weve had them close to a year now.
1:32 I have that light. I've also had it for 10 years I think. It hangs on my toolbox next to the Kobalt bar style light and gets used when I need a second light. Both were included in kits.
“Get this one, or buy two of these” - love the objectiveness of your videos. Thank you for sharing.
I have the dewalt. They used to make one that had a little spotlight head and was about the size of the 2ah battery. It was magnetic and the GOAT
I work in a farm shop a lot and what I use is the Milwaukee Rover light.
Its got a pretty strong magnetic base and a spring loaded clamp for 2x4s if necessary. Its got a front panel that can be aimed a lot of places and 3 modes (I only use high but if you want it to last longer the lower modes arent bad either.)
It'll go quite a few hours on the typical 5.0 battery and the thing is tougher than nails. I've dropped it on the concrete countless times and dropped it into 2 oil drain pans, completely submerging it in old used motor oil both times and it still works perfectly. I love that light and I'll never go back to any other style.
I have one of the big ryobi hi-beam torches, and it's a monster. Best part is I found it at our local rubbish dump.
Something that needs to be considered aside from pure light output (claimed and actual) is actual functionality. Don't need a 1000 lumen light under a kitchen sink for fix plumbing or inside small room to run trim work. Just hurts the eyes and creates extra heat that certainly isn't needed. I have a DCL040 that is more than bright enough for most tasks and the 12V DCL510 which has also been plenty bright enough for every task. There are also much larger area lights offered, just have to match the right light to the right environment instead of asking one light to do it all.
Not sure how old you are, but as my eyes get older (in my 40s now), I find the brighter the light the better. I'm sure I'm spoiled, because guys 20 years ago were lucky to have a crappy maglight probably throwing 100-200lm max, but I find 1500-2000lm to be a pretty good level for task lighting. One of the other benefits of brighter light is that I don't need to adjust it often, as the throw/scatter is enough to see what I'm doing. I really like my 1500lm M18 Rover (2361-20) for working under sinks, for example, since the whole area is illuminated no matter where it's directly pointed.
Exactly. I don't understand the obsession with lumens at the expense of functionality, battery life, CRI, and color temperature.
@@bnasty267 I'm 43 and carry a Streamlight Wedge EDC and even the low 300 lumen setting is more than bright enough and even too bright still for close up tasks. My goto headlamp is a Klein 56048, almost always use the 100 lumen flood mode, sometimes the 200 lumen spot.
Especially in an emergency/survival situation. The Ryobi giving 25 hours of sufficient light per battery is going to be much better than 5 hours of blinding light.
If you use a worklight every day, the DeWalt might be ok, with its higher battery usage/output and higher cost. But the low cost, low output, high runtime of the Ryobi is a much better deal for almost everyone.
Fun fact. You can change the output level.
I'm amazed the Ryobi held onto the battery during those drops, and a "big" 4 amp battery at that! My favorite is still one of the old Ryobi Blue lights with a third party LED conversion, runs for more hours than I care on a 2 amp battery.
The Milwaukee 2364-20 M12 Rover Flood Light has treated me well over several years but is a little bulky but comes in handy doing commercial, home, and auto work
Id love to see the DCL044 tested. On my the most convenient lights for working under something or being able to magnet it onto frames, metal ceilings, etc.
I love these videos; sound buyers advice, a dash of comedy, scientific review methods- and a damn lot of hard work clearly goes into the making. I mean, how long do you have to stay awake for to record a 22hr light runtime...?! Good work sir, can't wait for friday :-)
Now we need to see how the big lights stack up! I have a gen4 Ridgid light cannon and it's a beast on output, but eats battery. I'm interested in how it compares to the other brands.
I sent you a message about this, but I'm interested in seeing how well various outdoor solar lights perform. Flood lights, pathway lights, others.
The lights are one of my favorite things to watch on this channel. I don't think there is anything I can think of that you haven't tested for. Maybe waterproofness? Wanted to add my suggestion for the next round of testing. For my work, I mainly use Milwaukee tools for their durability and power. Don't need nice tools at home. Got a set of Kobalt tools and they are fine. One of the tools was a work light Model #KML 124B-03. 700lum and with a 4ah battery, lasts nearly all day or more. I suggest to check that out to continue this series. Keep up the good work ya'll.
i've dropped the dewlap one many many times over the 5+ years I've owned it!
Dewlap 😂
Great job.
I've had the amazon "look alike" for a Makita for a couple years. I love it. Works amazing. Very handy.
And dare I say, much better than the Makita Branded flashlight I have....
I actually quite like the old incandescent Ryobi worklight, both the old blue one and the newer green one. They won't break any lighting records but working under a dash it's easier at least on my eyes to have the warmer light up close than it is a bright white light
Might need to wait for a larger testing sphere, but some of the compact worklights are pretty useful.
I have a few lights on Bosch 18v, M12, and EGO 56v. The Bosch GLI18V-800N is decent, although I prefer the warmer color temperature of the M12 2362 and 2367. The 2362 has terrible efficiency (
I have the DEWALT 20V Work Light bar I use it almost every day.
often on low setting for close quarters working on cars.
I added a light diffuser film to it and it works for filming car stuff as well
The skil 12v area light is one of my favorite tools and wife loves it also.
Sad to see my cool little Craftsman didn't make this initial cut. Hopefully in a pt2?
I actually have the DeWalt DCL050 I got for Christmas. I use it literally all the time, for everything, and it's been a real Godsend. I absolutely recommend it to everyone on the DeWalt platform.
Originally I wanted to get it after the big winter storms knocked out power for almost four days here, so when I got it I actually did some testing myself: a 6AH makes it last roughly 14-15 hours on high, while also providing a staunch enough base to not worry about it tipping over, and it's bright enough that it can light up the garage or an entire room, without even bouncing the light off a ceiling. The hook can be clipped in for storage, locking it somewhere or swung around for hanging from different angles easier. Doubles as a decent hand warmer, too.
And while I am very careful with my tools as is, I am very glad to know this thing is a real juggernaut, because I always look for that in anything I buy; hence my fascination with Elzetta flashlights in general.
My only real gripe is that when I am holding it and moving it back and forth it does tend to flop around, as it's mostly meant to be stationary, but thats minor and has not hindered me significantly in any scenario.
I still have and use my old school 18v Ryobi Work light all the time, I got it in a kit around 2008 when the tools were still Blue and it's still going strong with the same bulb it came with.
What I find crazy is my crappy old Ryobi flashlight from 08' is seems brighter than every single one of those tool brand flashlights they are selling and it's almost 20 years old now. 😂
The DeWalt light also is often on promo for like 25% off
"Man, these are way more honest tools then we are used to seeing" ...literally laughed out loud at that.
That was great, I hope you can find a way to do the bigger spot light ones soon.
@Torque Test Channel Thank you for testing these lights The run time graph is what i really wanted to see. The lumen output is low on most of these lights, but it remains at 90% (for hours!) until they completely drop off.
I have an old Makita LXLM03 I bought for working in the garage, attic, etc. but I find it downstairs in my house and use it daily. As I get older and the eye sight fails, that thing and reading glasses really help in doing just about anything when I need to be able to see well.
I have 4 of the porter cable 20 v. flashlights . house, car, garage. In the house I will go looking for something without turning on the lights. in the garage it shines on the point I am drilling. It searches the backs of shelves and into boxes. The one in the car goes into all garage and estate sales, and auctions.
As a Ryobi user, I'm happy to see the results of the flashlight. I have a pair of these, and two of them make a huge difference working in low lighting. Even with a 2AH they last for hours and hours.
Other commenters mentioned the Ryobi spot light - but my favorite light by far is the Ryobi project light (P790). It swivels two ways, has a hook, and is advertised 900 lumens (with mutliple modes). I'd love to see it tested, because I'm not aware of any similar competition light with this festure- It's hybrid, so you can use it with an extension cord for extended use.
I have the Ridgid cheap light, I never use it anymore. I default to the big spot light. I have the older model that came with the 12v plug for the car. I bought the newer one when I was down at my sister's place for her. The only real thing new about it is how it pivots and the trigger turns it on and then to the 3 levels of lights. The old one has a knob in the rear of the light. The new one does not have the 12v so that kinda sucks.
So I was saying that regardless of what I am doing I choose the spot light over anything else I have and I have a lot of lights to choose from. The mat light, the old flex light, the old rotate tiny spot light, the bobble light and I think that is it. I only pull those out when we go camping or in the event of a long power outage. The big spot light is very handy. Point it up while in a cabinet working lights up the whole thing. Doing any kind of work in a dark room is nice.
I am looking at the newer ryobi lights as well to maybe get a new better light. Yet I think I will stick to what I have.
I bought a flashlight a while ago that has a bunch of neat tricks. It’s the Sofirn IF23. It advertises 4000 lumens, but I don’t think it makes nearly that much. It also has a spot and a bar light. Takes a 21700 cell, has usb-c charging and reverse charging. Has a magnet, and has a separate strip of rgb leds that can be adjusted to whatever color you want and set to flash. I’m pretty happy with it, and it only cost $40 when I got it!
I got my DeWalt light about a year ago for about $50 and I love it! The coverage is great up close and far away. It's definitely taken some tumbles off the ladder a few times but still works like new.
It was not featured, but I had to use the Makita DML816 a whole lot and it's done its job super well. I think one of the things that some manufacturers could improve with these is the hook they come with, and to provide an optional magnetic fixing point.
I have the Snap on version CTLED861 that takes the 14.4V with the magnetic bottom attachment. The battery lasts a week on low and has taken many falls so far and even survived a coolant bath after I cleaned it out of course, but it is my favorite light I have out of the milwaukee, streamlight, matco, and saber light.
I have a good idea for you to make a video. Compare the best Chinese power tools against other power tools like: makita. dewalt. milwaukee, flex etc. Find out how good is the quality, price, strength and durability. You have the best TH-cam channel about power tools. You can get everything easily.
I have the Dewalt light too. It has survived it's share of bloopers as well.
pls test the bosch ones. thay have a lot of lights.
I can vouch for the abusable dewalt work light, the only flaw aside from top heavy is the hinge pinching your skin if not careful. Have 3 of them and the big spotlight.
If u can find one of the bigger lithium 3ah battery... It works perfect for a base cause it's slightly heavier
I’ve added a couple of layers of gorilla tape to the bottom of the light section to create friction between the light and the handle. This way it doesn’t swing so easily and pinch your skin.
@@blackhazelwoods6581 good idea, I'll try to source some amd try it.
Weirdly, the Ryobi spotlight is fantastic.
I got it for my father in law, and had to pick one up for myself.
It's insanely bright and super far throw, we use it on our property when checking out things across the field at night.
Worth checking out.
If your happy with it that's great, but have you compared it to something of similar price by a quality flashlight company? Because when you do your opinion might change...a LOT 😅
@@aussiehardwood6196 yeah. I have serval high end flashlights, work lights and spotlights.
It's a good form factor for what it's used for, has a big, often cheap battery that's easy to keep charged and it's cheap for what it is.
I'm not saying it's the best light in the world. I'm just saying for what it is, it's very good and useful.
I've been waiting for these to go on sale.
@@aussiehardwood6196 Are there better options that illuminate on a similar/better distance, broader or same range, and will last about 22 - 24 hrs? Any one that you recommend?
The DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, et al flashlights only exist to allow a different catalog number for the bazillion part kits, so the kits at HomeDesperate and LowestExpectaions are not the same, and they don’t have to meet each other’s loss leader sale prices.
I have the Ridgid R8693 light. With its swivel head, I can put the light exactly were I need it. With a 1.5A battery, it will last for hours. I have dropped it a few times at 3ft height and a couple times higher than that and still working great.
You just don’t need a super powerful light for doing close work on metal/shiny/reflective surfaces (automotive, hvac, etc). You just need a decent whitish light with good spill and large focus point, and most importantly; a super long run time with a basic battery pack. The Ryobi works awesome for that for probably 75% of people, and the Dewalt is obviously better with regard to spill, but at quite a higher cost.
I have a headlamp coming my way for my tool bag because it’s smaller and I can wear it. That being said, I expect my Milwaukee light to outlast it. I’ve dropped it from about 13 feet up a ladder and it works fine. No cracks. Battery is fine. M12. I just need it up in ceilings really so you can’t go wrong with it.
I have the Kobalt light, it’s bright enough for me and I love that it just runs forever without dimming. Maybe I’ve never had a expensive flash light but I feel like all the smaller flashlights just die so quickly.
I’ve owned them from quite a few brands and I’m not kidding when I say that Hilti got it right on their three lights. The handheld folding mini flood takes a belt clip…genius. Super ergonomic and the hook works perfectly. The larger 3000 lumen flood folds compact, can fit on a door, stud, framing member etc. It has a perfectly located handle for handheld use. The light “head” rotates so you can position the light master securing it. The new tower is built on the Flex except the light itself is perfect. PERFECT. The battery door is finicky on the tower. The only bad thing I can say.
There's so many more of the Milwaukee lights, its a bit overwhelming when I was looking for a replacement.
Thanks for the comparison! I'm on the Ryobi, Worx, and M12 battery platforms so this video was useful to me. For $20 and 24hrs of run time, one of my Ryobi batteries may spend full time in a flashlight!
I have the DeWalt Type 2. Great light and is regularly on sale for £35 on Amazon UK.
I have tried a few models but never was really impressed. I recently tried a Klarus WL3, and BANG, that was it. Best work/camping/utilitylamp I have ever used.
I bought light bars for my trailer. I had a couple extra and added DeWalt adapters to them. Way better and cheaper than manufacturer lights. The only problem is no low voltage disconnects, but I never use them long enough for that to be an issue.
Wait a minute, DeWalt makes a 1,000 lumen light now?!?
I've used the Dewalt spotlight for years to walk the dog before the sun rises.
Dewalt has had the 1000 lumen 4 led spotlight for years.
That's really cool man, I'd love to see how you did that tbh. Great idea, what did you use to integrate them? Like an inverter of some sort?
Like light bars in an enclosed trailer? So you can work, find stuff?
@@ExcavationNationI have them on the exterior of the trailer set up as area lights. Currently I occasionally use them for working around the trailer, but when finished the trailer will be a camper conversion and they'll be used for lighting up a campsite.
I think you’ll love the Makita DML808 and the DML807. The 808 having an adjustable projector lense has been great. Prices do suck for them, but I liked them more than I thought I would.
I use the lights more than any other tools in my battery powered tool line ups. I have the kobalt hand held which is pretty good. But then i do have the m12 rover flood light and m18 1st gen rover flood light.(have to take it apart and re solder a couple of the connectors) rechargeable flash lights are amazing. You dont mind leaving them on until they die. Unlike the non rechargeables.
Holy cow, I've had that Dewalt DCL050 for several years now, never even realized how well it measures up.
Well, I've also got the DCL043 spotlight which claims 1500 lumens. That one also has the Red LED mode, I guess that's useful as a signal light or something.
The changed it from 500lm to 1000lm a couple years back
@@TorqueTestChannelwhen will you test keychain flashlights
Ryobi has a 2400 lumen work light that holds onto 2-by lumber in crawl spaces or attics, it will also hang onto a vehicle hood easily. I never use little lights anymore except for unclogging a sink.
I need more flashlight videos!!!!
I’ve been looking for a good cordless spotlight to kick around in my truck with my tools and what not. Considering the fact that I’m already neck deep in the M-12 universe, I think it goes without saying that I’ve just found the perfect candidate. Thanks again for these videos, TTC!
I’ve had my dewalt stick light for 10 years and beat the hell out of it- bought a few more to use in the shop/for construction.
The only issue I had was when using a walkie talkie near it killed the LED driver board.
Let’s be honest with ourselves, here. Nobody drops flashlights from varying height a “because science”. It’s “because breaking things is fun” 🙂
Love what you do. Keep it up.
it would be sweet if you tested more of the tool lights. these run forever so these seem like great camping lights for an entire weekend
i have a more expensive flood light by ridgid and its bright and nice. i know Milwaukee makes a badass light its just crazy expensive
I have the M12 version of the 100-lumen M18 flashlight. While not the brightest light for the money it still casts a decent amount of light to see well when going outside at night. A friend got it for me as a birthday gift about four or five years ago and I use my 6.0Ah M12 pack on it. With intermittent use it quite literally lasts a year on a charge. I charge it so infrequently that when the battery does finally drain I always think there's something wrong with my light. Then I need to say to myself (It ain't got no gas in it.) So I can't complain only needing to charge it once a year. :)
The big DeWalt 1000 lumen flashlight with 4 lights has one red light and three bright lights that throw the beam pretty far. We now have the small version as papaw has either misplaced it or it walked away when the roofer was here checking the attic crawlspace.
I don’t know why, it the drops this time were way satisfying.
I see during the tests the candela and lux readings are identical. Are lux and candela the same thing?
Candela is a property of the light source and only changes with direction. Lux is a measurement made by a receiver at a distance from the light source - it decreases with the square of the distance. For example, at 2m the lux will be 1/4 of what it was at 1m. In practice, candelas are measured by measuring the lux @ 1m. So yes, at a distance of 1m, the candelas and lux are the same.
@@toolscientist oh wow that’s cool. I never knew that. I appreciate the response
Is it crazy that I found the brief info you gave on the new TKlamp device far more interesting than all the flashlights?
For flashlights, I carry a Coast HX5 (with 14650s) in my pocket every day. Hardly ever need more than that. I do have the M12 spotlight for some distance use, it's been excellent.
Would have liked to see the 2367-20 M12 light. That one’s my favorite work light.
Ive got quite the array of makita lights, i do alot of nightwork, and im happy they just work, last long and can take more than 10 uses before they need maintenance (little milwaukee lights seem to need a new cell every few months which is dumb)
I bought a work light that uses m18 batteries on Amazon, and it's worked great for 2yrs so far, and seems to put out a great amount of light. Especially for the 30 bucks I paid! Hope to see an Amazon tool brand battery light shootout soon!!
I have the ryobi light because it came with their $220 kit that includes loads of tools and two batteries.
I thought I’d never use it and never would have bought it as a standalone item, but it’s actually been surprisingly useful.
For the money and similar pack size, i ended with the husky 2k "triple leaf" work light. Also sold as a different brand at costco. The husky at HD is $50 includes a tripod, integrated battery. Its like a poorman's light tower, yet versatile enough to be used as one of these regular work lights. 3 light levels, 3 color temperatures. Im really cheap and feel dirty about spending $50 on a light when i already have multiple kit included lights. But the husky is really nice. The one thing that's missing which other similar designs include, is USB power out to charge your phone. Then itd be perfect.
The ridgid stick lights are amazing. Two of them lights up a whole basement and a 4ah batteries on high lasts 16 hours
Where I work we must have about 100 of those Dewalts and they have been holding up shockingly well for the last 2 years or so. Some chemicals we deal with have fogged some of the plastic lenses but it just gives them a more diffused effect. Only downside is the ratchet function of the head gives out over time.
Perfect video for upcoming Father’s Day. Thanks!
Work lights that you hang or sit at a jobsite for a period of time is really where these kinds of things make sense, and get a 'real' flashlight for flashlight jobs. I have one of the Ryobi ones you jam onto a 2x4 or stick on a tripod (not really) that can also run corded.
I have the Dewalt DCL040. "Only" 110 lumens but one of the lights I use the most. Great for up to ~25 yards and the 2AH battery seems to last forever.
Ryobi lighting is really good.
I have several of their lights and they've all performed really well.
Home Depot recently (may still) have their 3 panel hybrid 3,000 lumen light, their 3,000 lumen spotlight and a flex shaft ...(like on a bench grinder but with a 16" or so flex shaft with an affixed pen style lamp.)... for $99.
Some Ryobi stuff may be underwhelming but the cost/performance/available options of their lighting is the best I've found.
Test hood lights next! I love my Dewalt hood light! Super useful.
How we gun' fit it in a sphere?
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What if you tested the output you get off those 3 inches and you multiply that result but it’s ratio of length to length able to be tested?
For example if the hood light has an active light section of 18 inches, and you can test 3 inches at a time. Would multiplying your reading by 6 get you pretty close to the actual output?
Don't. Make a few standard settings like under the hood or under the car and measure lux on a few points. In addition you can measure color temp, beam shape and durability with liquids.
That’s a good idea. Make a test platform, hang the lights 3’ up and measure points for candela like nine places around a 5x5’ square. That with all the qualitative stuff would be very meaningful
@TorqueTestChannel make a small tent out of black-out curtains. Put the lux meter inside and the light 1m away on a alt-az mount. Take lots of lux @ 1m measurements whilst changing the azimuth and elevation. Try to get the measurements spaced evenly over the surface of the 1m radius sphere. Then take the average of those lux (lm/m^2) measurements and multiply by 4/3*pi (m^2), which will give you lumens. Compare with your sphere and apply a correction factor if there's a consistent scaling error or offset.
Do you know the footprint size for the dewalt LED? That heatsink and driver look amazing for a modern LED reflow.
I've been wondering about these because it's a natural evolution to make the droplight part of a cordless tool lineup, but every brand seems to be annoyed by the idea. Corded led droplights also aren't particularly good but the conversion from AC power probably has something to do with that. I've been wondering if the bigger floodlights are supposed to take the place of these, they're a lot larger and probably are meant for area lighting at construction sites but seem to be closer to the underhood lights for output.
It's definitely possible to get good undercarriage lighting from a tool battery, both the pistol grip floodlights and the floor standing floodlights are advertising 2k lumens which is too much to have to avoid looking at while sliding around under a car on jack stands.
These lights (that use the tool batteries) are perfect for use during power outages. I always have a handful of fully charged tool batteries and so can provide light for many hours without power. I also have a USB charging adapter that works with the tool batteries so I can keep my phone charged.
Hey TTC! Could you do a comparison video on tool battery-powered mini vacuums? Like the DeWalt DCV581H and DCV517, Milwaukee M18 cordless vacuum, etc.
I think most people who use/need a portable light to do work really need 3 types. A hand held spot that will blister paint if nescessary, A large area light that isnt to bright because a bright light casts more contrasting shadows and the difference in illumination I think makes stuff more difficult to see. Think the sodium high pressure lamps used for road lighting. Finally a medium powered flood to light a small area. I wish they still made Big Jim torches. I converted mine to use a makita 18 volt with the aid of a transformer /buck converter from Ebay and on a 5 AH it's good for over 8 hours and it gives plenty of light spread in a spot/flood style. Have done heaps of fiddly jobs in the dark using only that as a light source.
Besides the abysmal output of the Milwaukee pivot head lights, and I guess the others, is the fact that none of them (except snap-on) allow you to point the light down. This effectively makes them useless for working on top of anything like an engine. Really pathetic as the round light and 18V battery would make a killer work light if it had better range of motion
Bosch has a couple lights that can do the same for much less money. I own a couple of FL12 light that I use when working on my truck and can either hang it from the hood latch, mount on a tripod or stick it to any metal surface with the couple magnets it has on the hinge. And it can tilt up to 200 degrees so it works great as an overhead light. Those are only 330 lumens but Bosch has a 420 lumen light that can also strap from above and tilt but it's missing the magnets and tripod mount for extra convenience
Are headlights the same as headlamps? A lot of them pivot nowadays and you get a decent bit of lumens and battery life (for the size).
I'd definitely add the Skil PwrCore 12 Mechanical light to the mix.
Very nice output. Rated around 600lm I believe, and has superior articulation to get the light where it's needed.
Because of that extra articulation, it may suffer in drop testing.
I try not to drop tools, but have dropped it a couple of times, and it did fine, but only from the height of a cars hood.
Home testing brought it to around 7-8 hours on high output with a 2ah battery.
It was more of a need for light during a power outage then an actual test, but was good to know Id have light for many hours next time the power goes out.
Also good to know it'll last thru whatever project I need it for.
One 2ah battery lasted me 3 days on a camping trip also.
It got lightly rained on, wet from morning dew, and very dirty, but never failed.
I was gonna say the Makita spot/flood light is pretty legit but definitely not going to fit in the lumen tester. But it is definitely good and I've used it to light up work areas indoors and outside at night, or to see things far away at night.
That said also have the foldable stick style light from Makita, and it's rarely used. It's not as bright as modern led work light sticks, but one thing it has going for it,.it'll probably run all day no prob on one battery.
The M12 49-24-0146 is a stout little piece. It's not bright, the magnet is weak, but it has a long run time and takes a beating. The form factor with smaller M12 batteries is close to a traditional C or D cell unit. At $25 bare it's hard to complain. Mine was included in a bundle which I assume was the reason Milwaukee made it in the first place.