It's very nice to see this farrier being patient and not beating up on the horse. However, it is most certainly NOT any farrier's job to train or work with a horse that kicks, or misbehaves, while being trimmed/shod. This owner needs to take responsibility and work with the horse herself. I don't care if she's young (if that is the owner in the video, it's clear that she's a young girl.) If she is too young and inexperienced to help her horse deal with the kicking issue and gain confidence, she should not own the horse. At the very least, she should be taking lessons from a trainer qualified to deal with behavioral issues. Just my two cents!
Unfortunately all horse are not bought and trained by professionals. Lots of horses are acquired with bad habits. Horses are not perfect. Dealing with bad habit horses are a part of the farriers job. For example stabled working fully farrier trained performance horses cannot help themselves sometimes with certain bad habits. They still need shoes. Can always charge extra for problem horses, but a farrier is a horseman. And horsemen understands all horses are not born tame or trained.
The way the farrier applied and released pressure, and allowed a reward break shows how much he understands horses, you did a great job Gene Fletcher, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. A true horseman will know that the way you responded and applied pressure was all right.
great video, you truly have the proper patience and understanding for the horse, while still being professional. I aspire to be like you one day sir. :)
I have recently bought a 4 yr old untouched (only tied down and gelded apparently) and this is a great video to help me start preparing him for the farrier, thank you
it really isn't...the top comment is pretty much on the money...please...please never do what this guy in the video is doing...for the sake of your horse
good patience and persistence. the best way to win a fight is not to engage or return aggression with more aggression. too often I've seen people bullying animals and use harsh correction as a first approach. This proves that calm patient persistance works. you kept gently kept asking for compliance and didn't back down, and the horse eventualy relaxed and you gave the reward of the break with their compliance. some commentors dont seem to understand that punishing would just stress the horse more and challenge it, give it more to fear or be annoyed at and make it more nervous. it might comply but I dont know that I would trust it. I would trust more a relaxed horse. well done.
I don't care if the horse is known for never having kicked at a fly.... There's no way that I'm going to get down on my knees, as shown at the end, and work on a foot--even if it is simply picking it clean.
It may not be the farriers job to train someone elses horse but he did and he did it with excellent horsemanship. He did it by thinking like a horse and taking care of it's emotional state. Excellent, excellent now you can teach all farriers that get into these situations.
Step three: The horse is not going to think that you are going to hurt by touching its hoof. On the contrary, if you grab him by the hoof instead of the Pastern or fetlock joint, he hardly knows you are there!, remember I have over fifty years in this job! I know!
What a result, due to a bit of patience. My compliments!! Just a bit of inspiration I need to get to solve the problem with my young mare. We're already getting better and better, with lots of relaxation, but the 'escape' will solve the whole problem. I'm sure ;-) Thanks a lot!
The music was great. It kept me entertained. I train my own horses, mostly foals, pretty much just this way. In a perfect world all owners would train their horses ... but this owner bought a kicker so she needs professional help. You may do this differently. If it works for you, fine, but remember the previous farrier had three broken ribs.
To me this is a true sign of a great farrier. He reminds me of the Amish farrier I take my horses to. Patient and gentle. And tbh it isnt training. My farrier has had to work with my friends blind mare because a different farrier she trusted traumatized her. She was so bad that we had to use Quiet-x jus to trim her feet.(we trimmed her till we found a different farrier) She was very hard to do. The first time the Amish farrier shod her it was amazing no Quiet-x jus alot of patience. Great work!!
Folks. as soon as I got on to my (our) domination ways of thinking/behaving and found the way to obtaining an 'agreement relationship", all the pieces came together for me. it starts with doing away with ideas like "win", "fight". choosing love, compassion, empathy, patience, and listening to what the horse is trying to tell you. then the vertical social order will begin to move into a horizontal social order "there is never any conflict in love". might sound a bit woosy to those that defend domination ideals, but it has been the biggest breakthrough for me with hundreds of horses. there's much more to this, but thought I'd keep it short. you are headed in the right direction Fletch.
I'm so tired of doing horses who are suppose to be handled...some owners don't ever touch their horses feet then when I go out to handle the horses feet they kick and play up so I have to educate the horse...some horse owners need to become more aware when it comes to handling their horses months before the farrier gets their..I pick out and handle my horses feet every day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you! I was trying to explain this to my husband and son. I am nowhere near a decent handler. I'm learning out of necessity. I did not choose ungulate care as much as it chose me. So far, what I have learned it is that I have a lot to learn. My husband's late wife was a vet. She decided she wanted percheron. My husband cares a lot for these animals and he does not want to simply find them new homes. While I understand, I struggle to understand why we have horses at all if we're just their meal ticket. They aren't trained to have people ride on them. I refuse to try because I have zero experience and I would do more harm than good. My son wants to work with horses. I never had any experience with ungulates aside from a petting zoo. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing. My son wants us "to just call a farrier" to teach us. The last a farrier that came out, hesaid he was never coming back and never to call him again. I can understand why. The percheron was never worked with. The late wife had these great dreams, but in reality it was not her priority. My husband has some experience but I'm finding out, he doesn't have a whole lot of real working knowledge about the care and such they need.
I hear you Amber loud and clear..well I have a life time of experience..in fact there isn't much I can't do with horses..but still I get idiot owners who won't listen to advice...if I can help in any way let me know !!!!!
suntzuwarsword1964 We pick our horses feet every day, and twice a day if it's packing snow, or very muddy. Besides keeping in the good graces of our trimmer, it's good interaction with the horse, and let's us check the health of each hoof. I started out with our newest horse having to tie and work with a training stick to keep him away from me. Over the course of a few weeks we transitioned from that stage to the point where he will pick up any foot at liberty when asked/cued. Also worked with him extensively so he would stand for trimming, with one hoof on a jack. It took some work but it was very gratifying and contributes to help making him a "better" horse.
Step one: have him in a corner where he can't move away from you, he can then focus on you! It is a boundary, a rule as it were; when kids don't have rules, they will become fractious, the same with horses
I liked how he handled this, though I would have liked to see a little more pressure release (such as the break he did), but more like when she stops moving her hindquarters away from him when he comes toward her would be a great time to stop, and thus reward allowing him to be there near her issues area. the little steps like that are the most important imo. Bravo for getting the job done though! the owner should have been (maybe she has I don't know) learning from this, and copying or at least trying the same. if he can she should be able to through trust and fairness...
RareEnoughToFind22 , I agree. I've many horses, and some of them came to me unhandled. I've had some kickers too. I've used the handle of a lunging whip to desensitize a young paint gelding that I had that was quite a handful. Slowly, but surely it worked over time. It is a give and take. End the session on a POSITIVE note. It works every time. Praise the horse for doing well. I've seen farrier use the Old "It's my way or the highway." Well then, hit the HIGHWAY. Typically, the horse always wins!
use a piece of hay string on upper lip, works well on the glands, hold for 2 min or so then get a long cotton rope around the pastern pull on that to pick up foot that way you don't get kicked, when they calm down enough ease up and work. this way you stay in control and teach the horse something, I've done it a thousand times, some take a little longer than others but it will work so you can do something, yea you gotta get the rope on the pastern and string in the mouth,but you;ll figure out a way if you want to
your logic is completely flawed, literally every second of it. You're petting him every time he kicks out before you reach down, but to him you're petting him for kicking out. Also, you're giving "release" as soon as he kicks by letting go of the foot and petting him. By holding the horse yourself instead of having the owner hold him, you're setting yourself up for failure because you're walking at his hip, which in horse language means "get out of my way." The way i cured a stud (1 year old) of this was by picking up his foot and holding it, letting him kick but not letting go of the foot. He kicked about as lightly as this horse did, and kicking backward too which means they don't want to hurt you, the sensation is just uncomfortable to them. So I would hold his foot until he stopped kicking and once he let me hold it for 3 seconds without kicking, i'd put it down and pet him. Then I'd pick it up again, let him kick it out, and pet him once he stopped. Eventually he figured out the only way to be happy was just to let me pick his foot up.
When you start to pick up a back leg the first thing to do is put your hand on his hip bone and lightly give him a nudge, not enough to move him just enough to get him to shift his weight to his other leg, when his weight is off the leg you want to work on the horse is already balanced on his other leg, if the horse still kicks, which this horse wasn't he was just uncomfortable and unbalanced, then you do just as the previous writer said and hang to it no matter what, I've had horses rear up on one hind leg after kicking but I never let go, yes it can be difficult and painful but better that once than letting go and doing it all again. (retired horse shoer)
Well Acadia, There is no right or wrong way to handle each horse, and their unique behavioral problems. Yearlings come in all shapes and sizes. The best and safest method is to handle their feet and legs as soon as the mare will allow it. They should be fed from your bare hand as early as possible. This makes you important to the foal, and later to the adult horse. The last two foals that I raised were colts. Both were fed and scratched while eating from a bucket daily. Neither became bossy with me. I was able to call either to me, and pick all four feet without a lead. Two years ago the last one who was gelded at nearly four got a big piece of skin and flesh kicked off the front of his right hock. The mares were in the pasture, but he stayed in the open barn for help. He walked up to me, stopped broadside, and waited. It takes a lot of time to gain the trust. If you are in a bad mood, stay away from any new things. I have seen horses throw big guys who were hanging on.
Can you just stop telling people there wrong!!! They may just have a different way of doing things and you don’t need to tell them that the way they’re doing is wrong it’s so rude. It’s their horse and it doesn’t matter what they do with and they get to do what they want with THERE horse as long as they’re not abusing the horses and it’s not in any pain or treated wrongly. Please be kind!
wow im having this exact same problem with my horse, I cant even get near his hooves I think he was abused in the past because hes so scared of everything I cant even put conditioner on his back hooves he kicks every time. im going to try this and hopefully it will work on him. Thanks so much, wonderful job, I wish you were my farrier.
I am a liscened farrier , it is the owners job to train !! R job is farrier work , parents teach their kids not to kick and bite the barber so teach ur horse , that would be a 100$ trim , with sedation or a stock
standing at the horses head and controling the mare's movements as much as possible. Let her know when she is misbehaving & when she is being good. Your tone of voice speaks volumes. No way would I have gotten down by that horses back hoof with her wanting to kick, like this man did. I agree with the person Skinfaxi, but it is the owners job to work with the horse. Yes, this farrier was a patient man, for sure, give him credit for that. I would have just handled it all differently & the horse.
I would never expect any farrier to train my horse for me. It's not their job. Certainly working with a difficult horse comes with the job, but this pony is having a merry old time with it's little game! I only made it halfway through the video and that was with the music on mute. Just my opinion. Peace, Avie
I usually try to work with the horse. If it takes more time than it worth to earn my fee for trimming, I have no problem telling a client to call me when the horse has proper ground manners. No sense in getting hurt over the cost of a trim and possibly suffering a career ending injury.
Very nice farrier with this patience :-) My trick is not to pull the leg out. I hold it under the Belly, the horses have better balance in this position!
I disagree with some of the feed back on this video. When my horses are being trimmed if they do not stand still then I'll smack their rump and they will get tied up to a hitching post. I was taught the best way to keep a horse from actually kicking you is get right up next to their flank, run you hand down their leg, pick up the hoof. If they try to kick you, they will push you away and have less chance of actually kicking you. Who's the boss, you or the horse? The owner should have been
It would be better if the owner would work with their horse on a daily basis instead of the shoer having to do the basics of getting the horse to pick it's feet up. Shoer I use charges extra if he has to fight with your horse, and I don't blame him. It isn't his job to do basic training on your horse.
I trim mine with a fake 'ground tie', if they try to move, they get lunged for a min or so... Works like a charm, even with my most stubborn young mare. If I can't trim my horses loose, and alone, there is something I'm doing wrong.
Allowing the horse to move away whenever it wishes allows the horse to think that all it has to do is to move away. It is not learning to respect YOUR rules. Come on!! You are in charge. Let the horse know it. He won't suffer from it!,
When you go to pick up his back foot, don't hold by the Pastern or fetlock joint, get him by the foot! A bit of horse shit won't hurt you! Holding them by the the Pastern or fetlock joint always agravates them!
An exercise in stupidity. Tie the leg up. Tie it hard. Try to be gentle, but shoe the horse if it kills it. Repeat every five or six weeks. The horse will figure it out.
A mental break? Well I know that horses have only a short attention span, but for goodness sake, If you had the girl hold the horse in a corner an followed some of my ideas you could have had that horse done ages ago. Goodness me, he wasn't all that challenging!
Stupid annoying music and too many typos in the text. I get what the guy is showing, but this video is not effective because of the music and misspelled words.
this guy did all the opposite of what i do first of all i wold put him in a place where the hors efell safe and i would not do this circle around i would make him relax maybe have the owner give him some food as soon he lift the leg and stop as soon i will drop the leg before a would pick the leg up rub from the back down easy and make sure he will get used too not alla this round and around he may do it in the nextt century and the hors ewill always play that game
Haha yeah really! And its just a process of teaching the horse that it's okay to lift your feet. Sometimes you just gotta hold onto their feet til they stop kicking haha then reward them when they do stop! that's how I taught one baby horse i had.
Acadia Mercer, Always a little girl who knows everything, right? Well honey, you're so called holding on the hoof is going get you seriously hurt or killed someday. I've been around horses over 40+ years. Every farrier that I've seen that follows YOUR moves, NEVER WINS! You are an IDIOT! I've seen farriers, and myself, work with RANK, UNHANDLED horses, AND it is a give and take situation rewarding the horse for good behavior as soon as it is done. Yes--I've held the hoof too IF they are softly kicking out; however, some horses kick with a VENGENCE AND FORCE!!! YOU are not going to be able to hold that hoof! BTW--horses DO Cow Kick!
So glad to see there are more farriers with patients [and a brain] that really do a good job!!!!! RESPECT!!!!!
It's very nice to see this farrier being patient and not beating up on the horse. However, it is most certainly NOT any farrier's job to train or work with a horse that kicks, or misbehaves, while being trimmed/shod. This owner needs to take responsibility and work with the horse herself. I don't care if she's young (if that is the owner in the video, it's clear that she's a young girl.) If she is too young and inexperienced to help her horse deal with the kicking issue and gain confidence, she should not own the horse. At the very least, she should be taking lessons from a trainer qualified to deal with behavioral issues. Just my two cents!
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Unfortunately all horse are not bought and trained by professionals. Lots of horses are acquired with bad habits. Horses are not perfect. Dealing with bad habit horses are a part of the farriers job. For example stabled working fully farrier trained performance horses cannot help themselves sometimes with certain bad habits. They still need shoes. Can always charge extra for problem horses, but a farrier is a horseman. And horsemen understands all horses are not born tame or trained.
Well said. Owners need to step up and make their horses respectful. None of this "oh shes just moody today" bullcrap.
The way the farrier applied and released pressure, and allowed a reward break shows how much he understands horses, you did a great job Gene Fletcher, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. A true horseman will know that the way you responded and applied pressure was all right.
great video, you truly have the proper patience and understanding for the horse, while still being professional. I aspire to be like you one day sir. :)
I have recently bought a 4 yr old untouched (only tied down and gelded apparently) and this is a great video to help me start preparing him for the farrier, thank you
M Russell . No it's not!
it really isn't...the top comment is pretty much on the money...please...please never do what this guy in the video is doing...for the sake of your horse
We need more farriers and vets like this guy!!! Kudos to you Sir!! =D
good patience and persistence. the best way to win a fight is not to engage or return aggression with more aggression. too often I've seen people bullying animals and use harsh correction as a first approach. This proves that calm patient persistance works. you kept gently kept asking for compliance and didn't back down, and the horse eventualy relaxed and you gave the reward of the break with their compliance. some commentors dont seem to understand that punishing would just stress the horse more and challenge it, give it more to fear or be annoyed at and make it more nervous. it might comply but I dont know that I would trust it. I would trust more a relaxed horse. well done.
I don't care if the horse is known for never having kicked at a fly.... There's no way that I'm going to get down on my knees, as shown at the end, and work on a foot--even if it is simply picking it clean.
It may not be the farriers job to train someone elses horse but he did and he did it with excellent horsemanship. He did it by thinking like a horse and taking care of it's emotional state. Excellent, excellent now you can teach all farriers that get into these situations.
A farrier that is actually talking horse and not knocking the crap out of it is great to see!! She should pick this ones feet up everytime possible
"Always leave on a good note" Preferably a £20 one lol.
Good video & good on yer. Patience pays off & wisdom is priceless!
Step three: The horse is not going to think that you are going to hurt by touching its hoof. On the contrary, if you grab him by the hoof instead of the Pastern or fetlock joint, he hardly knows you are there!, remember I have over fifty years in this job! I know!
What a result, due to a bit of patience. My compliments!!
Just a bit of inspiration I need to get to solve the problem with my young mare.
We're already getting better and better, with lots of relaxation, but the 'escape' will solve the whole problem. I'm sure ;-) Thanks a lot!
The music was great. It kept me entertained. I train my own horses, mostly foals, pretty much just this way. In a perfect world all owners would train their horses ... but this owner bought a kicker so she needs professional help. You may do this differently. If it works for you, fine, but remember the previous farrier had three broken ribs.
To me this is a true sign of a great farrier. He reminds me of the Amish farrier I take my horses to. Patient and gentle. And tbh it isnt training. My farrier has had to work with my friends blind mare because a different farrier she trusted traumatized her. She was so bad that we had to use Quiet-x jus to trim her feet.(we trimmed her till we found a different farrier) She was very hard to do. The first time the Amish farrier shod her it was amazing no Quiet-x jus alot of patience. Great work!!
Folks. as soon as I got on to my (our) domination ways of thinking/behaving and found the way to obtaining an 'agreement relationship", all the pieces came together for me. it starts with doing away with ideas like "win", "fight". choosing love, compassion, empathy, patience, and listening to what the horse is trying to tell you. then the vertical social order will begin to move into a horizontal social order "there is never any conflict in love". might sound a bit woosy to those that defend domination ideals, but it has been the biggest breakthrough for me with hundreds of horses. there's much more to this, but thought I'd keep it short. you are headed in the right direction Fletch.
David Putnam "choosing love, compassion, empathy, patience, and listening" Has it occured to you that these words also apply to people?
I'm so tired of doing horses who are suppose to be handled...some owners don't ever touch their horses feet then when I go out to handle the horses feet they kick and play up so I have to educate the horse...some horse owners need to become more aware when it comes to handling their horses months before the farrier gets their..I pick out and handle my horses feet every day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you! I was trying to explain this to my husband and son. I am nowhere near a decent handler. I'm learning out of necessity. I did not choose ungulate care as much as it chose me. So far, what I have learned it is that I have a lot to learn. My husband's late wife was a vet. She decided she wanted percheron. My husband cares a lot for these animals and he does not want to simply find them new homes. While I understand, I struggle to understand why we have horses at all if we're just their meal ticket. They aren't trained to have people ride on them. I refuse to try because I have zero experience and I would do more harm than good.
My son wants to work with horses. I never had any experience with ungulates aside from a petting zoo. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing. My son wants us "to just call a farrier" to teach us. The last a farrier that came out, hesaid he was never coming back and never to call him again. I can understand why. The percheron was never worked with. The late wife had these great dreams, but in reality it was not her priority. My husband has some experience but I'm finding out, he doesn't have a whole lot of real working knowledge about the care and such they need.
I hear you Amber loud and clear..well I have a life time of experience..in fact there isn't much I can't do with horses..but still I get idiot owners who won't listen to advice...if I can help in any way let me know !!!!!
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suntzuwarsword1964 We pick our horses feet every day, and twice a day if it's packing snow, or very muddy. Besides keeping in the good graces of our trimmer, it's good interaction with the horse, and let's us check the health of each hoof. I started out with our newest horse having to tie and work with a training stick to keep him away from me. Over the course of a few weeks we transitioned from that stage to the point where he will pick up any foot at liberty when asked/cued. Also worked with him extensively so he would stand for trimming, with one hoof on a jack. It took some work but it was very gratifying and contributes to help making him a "better" horse.
prairie wanderer . Exactly!
Step one: have him in a corner where he can't move away from you, he can then focus on you! It is a boundary, a rule as it were; when kids don't have rules, they will become fractious, the same with horses
he did a great job with the horse... Gentlenes and patience paid off
I liked how he handled this, though I would have liked to see a little more pressure release (such as the break he did), but more like when she stops moving her hindquarters away from him when he comes toward her would be a great time to stop, and thus reward allowing him to be there near her issues area. the little steps like that are the most important imo.
Bravo for getting the job done though! the owner should have been (maybe she has I don't know) learning from this, and copying or at least trying the same. if he can she should be able to through trust and fairness...
RareEnoughToFind22 , I agree. I've many horses, and some of them came to me unhandled. I've had some kickers too. I've used the handle of a lunging whip to desensitize a young paint gelding that I had that was quite a handful. Slowly, but surely it worked over time. It is a give and take. End the session on a POSITIVE note. It works every time. Praise the horse for doing well. I've seen farrier use the Old "It's my way or the highway." Well then, hit the HIGHWAY. Typically, the horse always wins!
use a piece of hay string on upper lip, works well on the glands, hold for 2 min or so then get a long cotton rope around the pastern pull on that to pick up foot that way you don't get kicked, when they calm down enough ease up and work. this way you stay in control and teach the horse something, I've done it a thousand times, some take a little longer than others but it will work so you can do something, yea you gotta get the rope on the pastern and string in the mouth,but you;ll figure out a way if you want to
your logic is completely flawed, literally every second of it. You're petting him every time he kicks out before you reach down, but to him you're petting him for kicking out. Also, you're giving "release" as soon as he kicks by letting go of the foot and petting him. By holding the horse yourself instead of having the owner hold him, you're setting yourself up for failure because you're walking at his hip, which in horse language means "get out of my way." The way i cured a stud (1 year old) of this was by picking up his foot and holding it, letting him kick but not letting go of the foot. He kicked about as lightly as this horse did, and kicking backward too which means they don't want to hurt you, the sensation is just uncomfortable to them. So I would hold his foot until he stopped kicking and once he let me hold it for 3 seconds without kicking, i'd put it down and pet him. Then I'd pick it up again, let him kick it out, and pet him once he stopped. Eventually he figured out the only way to be happy was just to let me pick his foot up.
I was thinking the same thing
When you start to pick up a back leg the first thing to do is put your hand on his hip bone and lightly give him a nudge, not enough to move him just enough to get him to shift his weight to his other leg, when his weight is off the leg you want to work on the horse is already balanced on his other leg, if the horse still kicks, which this horse wasn't he was just uncomfortable and unbalanced, then you do just as the previous writer said and hang to it no matter what, I've had horses rear up on one hind leg after kicking but I never let go, yes it can be difficult and painful but better that once than letting go and doing it all again. (retired horse shoer)
I use a Scottish hobble when they do not cooperate and Fresians kicks hurt like hell by the way.
Well Acadia,
There is no right or wrong way to handle each horse, and their unique behavioral problems. Yearlings come in all shapes and sizes. The best and safest method is to handle their feet and legs as soon as the mare will allow it. They should be fed from your bare hand as early as possible. This makes you important to the foal, and later to the adult horse. The last two foals that I raised were colts. Both were fed and scratched while eating from a bucket daily. Neither became bossy with me. I was able to call either to me, and pick all four feet without a lead.
Two years ago the last one who was gelded at nearly four got a big piece of skin and flesh kicked off the front of his right hock. The mares were in the pasture, but he stayed in the open barn for help. He walked up to me, stopped broadside, and waited. It takes a lot of time to gain the trust. If you are in a bad mood, stay away from any new things. I have seen horses throw big guys who were hanging on.
Can you just stop telling people there wrong!!! They may just have a different way of doing things and you don’t need to tell them that the way they’re doing is wrong it’s so rude. It’s their horse and it doesn’t matter what they do with and they get to do what they want with THERE horse as long as they’re not abusing the horses and it’s not in any pain or treated wrongly. Please be kind!
wow im having this exact same problem with my horse, I cant even get near his hooves I think he was abused in the past because hes so scared of everything I cant even put conditioner on his back hooves he kicks every time. im going to try this and hopefully it will work on him. Thanks so much, wonderful job, I wish you were my farrier.
I am a liscened farrier , it is the owners job to train !! R job is farrier work , parents teach their kids not to kick and bite the barber so teach ur horse , that would be a 100$ trim , with sedation or a stock
standing at the horses head and controling the mare's movements as much as possible. Let her know when she is misbehaving & when she is being good. Your tone of voice speaks volumes. No way would I have gotten down by that horses back hoof with her wanting to kick, like this man did. I agree with the person Skinfaxi, but it is the owners job to work with the horse. Yes, this farrier was a patient man, for sure, give him credit for that. I would have just handled it all differently & the horse.
Well done. I hope you were paid by the hour . Glad you were not hurt.
I would never expect any farrier to train my horse for me. It's not their job. Certainly working with a difficult horse comes with the job, but this pony is having a merry old time with it's little game! I only made it halfway through the video and that was with the music on mute. Just my opinion. Peace, Avie
I usually try to work with the horse. If it takes more time than it worth to earn my fee for trimming, I have no problem telling a client to call me when the horse has proper ground manners. No sense in getting hurt over the cost of a trim and possibly suffering a career ending injury.
The horse is not a human. Don't expect it to act like one. Get a crush before you get hurt.
You don't put your hand behind the leg to get it to lift it up. Run your hand down from inside by the stifle.
That horse really doesn't have that much of a kicking problem...
SuperAddyg , that's what I thought too. Very minor compared to some that I have seen. Especially horses that have never been handled much at all.
Nnmdld kneels n mjwl
Looks to me like the guy is scared to death. That horse won that round. It will be tougher the next time.
So why didn't we see the horse kicking out? I didn't see a horse with a kicking problem.
I hoped it worked out for you!! No problem. It's what I live for!!!
Wow, just wonderful!
Have the handler closer to the horse. Where she is now she has no control. You are correct in as much as she needs to be the same side as you.
Very nice farrier with this patience :-) My trick is not to pull the leg out. I hold it under the Belly, the horses have better balance in this position!
I disagree with some of the feed back on this video. When my horses are being trimmed if they do not stand still then I'll smack their rump and they will get tied up to a hitching post. I was taught the best way to keep a horse from actually kicking you is get right up next to their flank, run you hand down their leg, pick up the hoof. If they try to kick you, they will push you away and have less chance of actually kicking you. Who's the boss, you or the horse? The owner should have been
It would be better if the owner would work with their horse on a daily basis instead of the shoer having to do the basics of getting the horse to pick it's feet up. Shoer I use charges extra if he has to fight with your horse, and I don't blame him. It isn't his job to do basic training on your horse.
It is not the farriers job to train the horse to stand to be shod or trimmed. Give him a shot of tranquilizer.
I trim mine with a fake 'ground tie', if they try to move, they get lunged for a min or so... Works like a charm, even with my most stubborn young mare. If I can't trim my horses loose, and alone, there is something I'm doing wrong.
Allowing the horse to move away whenever it wishes allows the horse to think that all it has to do is to move away. It is not learning to respect YOUR rules. Come on!! You are in charge. Let the horse know it. He won't suffer from it!,
I f you need some one else to train your horse for such a simple procedure,then you shouldn't have one...
When you go to pick up his back foot, don't hold by the Pastern or fetlock joint, get him by the foot! A bit of horse shit won't hurt you! Holding them by the the Pastern or fetlock joint always agravates them!
lol...that horse did not have a kicking problem and if you weren't hiding your tools that would have been helpful.
Life of an farrier...Would´nt change
A girl needs a good farrier, a good dog and a good butcher probably in that order!
How did the horse reach that age without being trained?
Nerve Line it from the get go! every time it moves use it, when it stops reward it. You gotta give and take with a horse.
Very nice music ! Where can I find it ?
If my horse wants to eat and it makes it easier to trim her feet it works for me.
Why not put a clip on the horses ear so he has something to distract him while working on him?
It's not the farriers job to train a horse to stand and have the feet worked on.
Sailing on the Hook . Exactly
An exercise in stupidity. Tie the leg up. Tie it hard. Try to be gentle, but shoe the horse if it kills it. Repeat every five or six weeks. The horse will figure it out.
music is too obnoxious to watch this
you gona trim that horse or do the dosey doe.
It always kills me to see that 10,000+ people will watch a cracking video & only 20 have the decency to rate it : / Ye skinny bunch of eejits!
The horse does not have a kicking problem
A mental break? Well I know that horses have only a short attention span, but for goodness sake, If you had the girl hold the horse in a corner an followed some of my ideas you could have had that horse done ages ago. Goodness me, he wasn't all that challenging!
Brilliant!
if he wanted to get you he would have. all you did was teach him to spin. cowboy up and hold on to it. you look intimidated and the paint knows it.
Stupid annoying music and too many typos in the text. I get what the guy is showing, but this video is not effective because of the music and misspelled words.
I need a metal break from this annoying music!
horse needs feet desensitized with training
this guy did all the opposite of what i do first of all i wold put him in a place where the hors efell safe and i would not do this circle around i would make him relax maybe have the owner give him some food as soon he lift the leg and stop as soon i will drop the leg before a would pick the leg up rub from the back down easy and make sure he will get used too not alla this round and around he may do it in the nextt century and the hors ewill always play that game
Proper amateur..
I don't mess with horses...
then why are you watching horse videos? derp
Just curious to how people who do clean under the hoofs with out getting the shit kicked out of them. Derp...really ?
Haha yeah really! And its just a process of teaching the horse that it's okay to lift your feet. Sometimes you just gotta hold onto their feet til they stop kicking haha then reward them when they do stop! that's how I taught one baby horse i had.
Acadia Mercer, Always a little girl who knows everything, right? Well honey, you're so called holding on the hoof is going get you seriously hurt or killed someday. I've been around horses over 40+ years. Every farrier that I've seen that follows YOUR moves, NEVER WINS! You are an IDIOT! I've seen farriers, and myself, work with RANK, UNHANDLED horses, AND it is a give and take situation rewarding the horse for good behavior as soon as it is done. Yes--I've held the hoof too IF they are softly kicking out; however, some horses kick with a VENGENCE AND FORCE!!! YOU are not going to be able to hold that hoof! BTW--horses DO Cow Kick!
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Step 1. Rope it's legs up