3:10 There is a setting in your options that prevents you from crafting a skill gem if you already have one equipped, if you take off that setting, then you can just craft without having to unequip gems.
FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND: - Grab any skill gem you wish to improve (preferably not the highest level you have so you don't risk losing it) - Use a Lesser Jeweler's Orb on it so it goes from 2 slots to 3 slots - Use a Vaal Orb on it so it MAY go from 3 slots to 4 slots (If it didn't, you can choose to keep it if you can use the 3 slots or if it got level or added quality, your choice) Do this in this specific order.
but can you add sockets to the gem after it is corrupted? Lets say I corrupt to +1, can I then use currency to add sockets and quality and basically have the best gem version of the skill or is the corruption the last step after it is full sockets full quality level 20?
It allows you to get the +1 corruption, which can then be leveled. So a level 1 gem that corrupts to level 2 will get to 21 from leveling is my understanding.
Yup, I burned pretty much everything trying to 5-link my big damage skill. Did not hit. Shouldn't have gambled, though, and just kept pushing. 5-link power is so enticing though.
Don't do this unless you have like 15+ lesser jeweler's orbs and Vaals. Which is to say, don't do this before maps, unless you're lucky you'll end up wasting your currency
Gems don't level up through experience, just through higher level uncut gems, so you're not really losing much if you corrupt now rather than at 20, you'll be getting plenty of uncut level 20 skill gems I assume once you're at that point. Just like he has a bunch of unused 17 right now.
so first try I got 4 sockets on Arsonist.. but you can't go beyond that because its corrupted right? so its just a ''Cheap'' way to get 4 sockets ( 5 if you count the skill itself ? )
it says to level up the gem after the corruption is a success and you get the 5 link... but if it's corrupted... wouldn't that stop you from being able to level it up?
Corrupted gems can still level up. The only thing that changes when you corrupt a gem is that you are unable to use currency to quality up the gem. So ideally you level the gem, quality it up to max then Vaal it. The ideal outcome is gem and quality levels go up when you vaal it, or in this case the links.
@@Gloating-Goat 1. "Corrupted gems can still level up" 2. "So ideally you level the gem, quality it up to max then Vaal it.". This doesn't make sense, why the hell would I level it up BEFORE vaaling if we can do it afterwards. Why is every damn comment so confusing on how this works.
@@bawzzzz its not a complex thing... just depends what you are tryng to hit and how much currency you can throw at skill gems. This is just a basic way to not spend 20 exalts for 1 gem socket rather just spend 1 exalt for 7 tries at it. You can get lucky but also can get VERY unlucky and spend 20 exalts anyway. Fact of it is, if you want all 3 aspects qual, level and socket. You have to manually add 1 of the 3, be it levels, sockets or Quality. Once a gem is corrupted you cannot add sockets or quality via jewellers or gem cutters. They also may in the future if balance sees fit to make it so you cannot level up the skill either after its corrupted since you have to technically use a skill gem as a kind of "currency" to level it up. The guy above you is incorrect in the "Ideal" situation since it doesnt work like POE1 where you had to level the gem to 20 before corrupting it and qual to 20 or else you couldnt get it any higher as it would go +/- 1 level if possible and if it went -level it would only level back up to 20 not go to 21, (Difference in POE2 is the + level works as a implicit modifier so it can go to level 20 + 1 no matter what since its not tied directly to the gem level itself) or up to +3 added qual and minus was RNG for qual.
@@bawzzzz If you Vaal a Level 1 gem, with 0 quality, the best outcome you can get is a level 20 gem with 23 quality. However, if you Vaal a level 20 gem with 20 qual, the best outcome is a level 21 with 23 quality gem. TLDR: The Vaaling process can increase your gem level by 1, therefore you ideally vaal a max level gem. PS. It appears that POE 2 has changed this, and the +1 gem level is added as a prefix meaning the above explanation does not apply in POE2. Sorry for confusing you.
No, corrupted cant be changed, only leveled. In 99% of cases, your main skill gem for attacking/casting will benefit far greater than from an additional link than quality.
What is the minmax grind for the gem though? Assuming you can’t add quality to corrupted, do you jeweler it to max links, add 20% qual, then vaal it for +level or >20% quality ?
I have no idea whats being said here. It'slike listening to instructions given by the teacher on 'Peanuts'... At least now I know theres some trick you can do with lvl 17 skill gems to get more sockets. So with that knowledge I can go find somebody to explain it better.
Also. Just am update on that gem legionair summoner. Its ass in comparison lol. Sure some real late game options might open up. But the campaign is am absolute slog being so weak for so long. Witch has nodes from level 1 for summons. Merc maxes its summons at level 30 lol. Had a few good spikes in dage that carried. Its still going well enough. But the 100% more damage witch gets automatically is just too good to not do. Very unfortunate. Ill wait for templar to release to run another summoner. For now ill keep pushing. If they shifted the legionaire ascendency nodes around a bit it would be way way better. But having the +1 skill gem AND multiple supports hidden behind garbage reallt hurts its viability while leveling. +1 should be on a forst ascend node instead of quality. Quality is just too weak and random im this game. Spirit is also a huge issue. The rwduced coat node should but doesnt help with spirit. Also the gas arrow getting nuked into infinity and my auto bomb getting it a day later reallt tanked a day for me lol. Having to massively adjust. Arsonist works decent but reavers feel way better most of the time. Body block amd damage is comparable imo. Need more support slots which ill use this videos method and speal more on it. Currently looking to roll a higher damage scepter. Ill update after i roll a good one. Still rocking a buff lvl24 rod. Havnt rolled ahit for mods since lol. 25 scepters later haha P.s. supports not having quality at all reallt made that node useless lol. The moment they add quality stats to them the build gets huge. Here is to hoping that happens
is it fool's april joke or what, small nodes on witch have extra minion damage where on a different class nodes are normal? talking about beginning of a witch tree
Literally just tried this and did not hit a single +1 socket out of 10+ vaals Results from 13: 2x Quality 3x Gem lvl +1 6x Nothing or non noticeable negativ (- Quality on no Quality, Counting Gem levels here too because i randomly used 14 and 15 gems and didnt check which one turned what) 2x -1 Socket
Wait, isn't he doing it wrong? From what I understood, you're supposed to vaal a level 1 skill gem and then upgrade it to a higher level after hitting the 5-link, right?
@@TimeForTrim i've gotten like 3 randomly during campaign. but yes they drop specifically from one of the end game mechanics for the most part. I forget which one exactly.
If you corrupt the gem in this way.. then yes... Max you can have in game is 5 support gems. Since uncut gems are dropping like candy right now... you would use this 5L till you have acquired the 5 and 6 link Jew orb. Then just make a new gem and 6 link it and replace your corrupted 5L.
I started this huge discussion in 6666 yesterday, i feel i did a good thing. Needed 2 randoms to confirm my claims, after that chat went wild vaaling all their gems.
only thing i don't get about that post reading it is how does a 5L only option other then doing it cost 17ex? I don't do trading, trading has always been a nightmare, nothing but scammers and people wasting your time and making you leave maps instantly because impatient using up your portals constantly and ignoring your offer to buy only to raise price each time someone messages them. i refuse to trade. so how is it only option other then this method is 17ex? surely i am missing something here. A solo self found pays 17ex at an NPC somewhere to get 5L gems? huh? I'm not this far into game yet, i only have 4L skills, just curious for someone who doesn't trade what my option is then.
the only way to get 5 link gems is to use a greater jeweller's orb which at the time costs 17 exalted orbs on trade site. so if you are ssf just keep farming until you drop a greater.
@@cd8788 If you only play hardcore trading is a lot better, i play softcore, it's incredibly toxic in softcore and full of scammers. and not only that but it ruins game as well to trade, if you trade then no point in farming anything as you can just buy it instead.
thanks for making the vid to help spread the word Ghazzy - hope this is helpful for folks and if you're a minion player be sure to join /global 6666 for tips like these!
3:10 There is a setting in your options that prevents you from crafting a skill gem if you already have one equipped, if you take off that setting, then you can just craft without having to unequip gems.
FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND:
- Grab any skill gem you wish to improve (preferably not the highest level you have so you don't risk losing it)
- Use a Lesser Jeweler's Orb on it so it goes from 2 slots to 3 slots
- Use a Vaal Orb on it so it MAY go from 3 slots to 4 slots (If it didn't, you can choose to keep it if you can use the 3 slots or if it got level or added quality, your choice)
Do this in this specific order.
What is the risk of losing it? Is a vaal outcome that it goes poof?
Ghazzy you don't need to wait till the gem is lvl 20. The +1 level corruption now acts like an implicit mod
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but can you add sockets to the gem after it is corrupted? Lets say I corrupt to +1, can I then use currency to add sockets and quality and basically have the best gem version of the skill or is the corruption the last step after it is full sockets full quality level 20?
@@GabrielZlamal you probably can't. So you'd still 6 link and 20 quality it before corrupting
@@GabrielZlamal you cant this method is useless
@@Gredinus So you could craft 6 link 20% quality lvl 1 gems and corrupt them? Then when you upgrade it to lvl 20 you get 21 gem ?
4:50 I don't think they'll ever change that, because if we take the Skill gem + 5 supports = 6L.
If they added another slot it would be 7L
I got a Perfect Jeweller's Orb in my 5th map after getting to endgame and not had a Greater yet so I'm absolutely fiending to get this sorted
3:53 - isn't this a 21 lvl gem ? it say "+1 level from corruption"
It allows you to get the +1 corruption, which can then be leveled. So a level 1 gem that corrupts to level 2 will get to 21 from leveling is my understanding.
17+1
would be, but since its corrupted you can't slot more sockets or upgrade quali
just so everyone knows i rolled 20 of these and not one 4 socket. some get lucky others get the shaft.
did you buy a supporter pack? it gives a +1 to luck
You get the shaft cheaper at least.
Took me 4 tries. It works but it's all up to chaos.
Yup, I burned pretty much everything trying to 5-link my big damage skill. Did not hit. Shouldn't have gambled, though, and just kept pushing. 5-link power is so enticing though.
Even if you did hit it, you wouldn't be able to quality it up. This method is a trap if you ask me.
Don't do this unless you have like 15+ lesser jeweler's orbs and Vaals. Which is to say, don't do this before maps, unless you're lucky you'll end up wasting your currency
Gems don't level up through experience, just through higher level uncut gems, so you're not really losing much if you corrupt now rather than at 20, you'll be getting plenty of uncut level 20 skill gems I assume once you're at that point. Just like he has a bunch of unused 17 right now.
so first try I got 4 sockets on Arsonist.. but you can't go beyond that because its corrupted right? so its just a ''Cheap'' way to get 4 sockets ( 5 if you count the skill itself ? )
Correct
He says that you can remove corruption if you upgrade it with higher skill gem
@@NortonGJ Just tried and nope.
@@KamienTV meh, sorry for misinformation :(
knowing my luck, i gamble 15ex worth of currency to hit the +1 socket
"I do like it, it's not shit"
Great content Ghazzy 👍
it says to level up the gem after the corruption is a success and you get the 5 link... but if it's corrupted... wouldn't that stop you from being able to level it up?
Corrupted gems can still level up. The only thing that changes when you corrupt a gem is that you are unable to use currency to quality up the gem.
So ideally you level the gem, quality it up to max then Vaal it. The ideal outcome is gem and quality levels go up when you vaal it, or in this case the links.
@@Gloating-Goat 1. "Corrupted gems can still level up" 2. "So ideally you level the gem, quality it up to max then Vaal it.". This doesn't make sense, why the hell would I level it up BEFORE vaaling if we can do it afterwards. Why is every damn comment so confusing on how this works.
@@bawzzzz its not a complex thing... just depends what you are tryng to hit and how much currency you can throw at skill gems. This is just a basic way to not spend 20 exalts for 1 gem socket rather just spend 1 exalt for 7 tries at it. You can get lucky but also can get VERY unlucky and spend 20 exalts anyway. Fact of it is, if you want all 3 aspects qual, level and socket. You have to manually add 1 of the 3, be it levels, sockets or Quality. Once a gem is corrupted you cannot add sockets or quality via jewellers or gem cutters. They also may in the future if balance sees fit to make it so you cannot level up the skill either after its corrupted since you have to technically use a skill gem as a kind of "currency" to level it up. The guy above you is incorrect in the "Ideal" situation since it doesnt work like POE1 where you had to level the gem to 20 before corrupting it and qual to 20 or else you couldnt get it any higher as it would go +/- 1 level if possible and if it went -level it would only level back up to 20 not go to 21, (Difference in POE2 is the + level works as a implicit modifier so it can go to level 20 + 1 no matter what since its not tied directly to the gem level itself) or up to +3 added qual and minus was RNG for qual.
@@bawzzzz If you Vaal a Level 1 gem, with 0 quality, the best outcome you can get is a level 20 gem with 23 quality.
However, if you Vaal a level 20 gem with 20 qual, the best outcome is a level 21 with 23 quality gem.
TLDR: The Vaaling process can increase your gem level by 1, therefore you ideally vaal a max level gem.
PS. It appears that POE 2 has changed this, and the +1 gem level is added as a prefix meaning the above explanation does not apply in POE2. Sorry for confusing you.
@@Gloating-Goat that’s perfectly clear and I can understand how you would say that given the lvl21 poe1 thingy. Thanks
Well... the value of vaal orbs is going to skyrocket now
You are Awesome Ghazzy!
Honestly sounds like something that will probably get fixed. It sure is not intended to be able to further level a corrupted gem.
I just did this and my infernal hound also got an extra socket? Is that intended? Im not complaining
i just went into the gem and got it first try with my lvl 3 gem. Thanks a lot!
its kinda funny, i would do this but i dropped the six link orb, without seeing a 5 link one, so now im saving up to go from 4 to six links.
Would you still be able to up the quality after corruption tho? Cause if not, then only do this for gems that don't benefit from GCPs.
No, corrupted cant be changed, only leveled. In 99% of cases, your main skill gem for attacking/casting will benefit far greater than from an additional link than quality.
What is the minmax grind for the gem though? Assuming you can’t add quality to corrupted, do you jeweler it to max links, add 20% qual, then vaal it for +level or >20% quality ?
How is the not cheapest option? like not using this method. I have the lesser thing, but Idk how to past 3 sockets "normally"
I was in chat when we figured this out yesterday. Cool find!
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: Don't do this with gems that have a powerful quality buff. You cannot quality corrupted gems.
Anyone having issues with a Skeletal warrior minion scepter? Not sure why but the minions aren't being summoned with the weapon equipped.
He’s not blurry anymore
Can you tell me the priority in adding sockets for your build? I'd guess arsonist's first, but who's next?
I have had one vaal in 30 hrs playtime lol aint doing this anytime soon LOL
GGG be like: what I see? U people doing something the way it was not intended... NerfHammer!!!!
Why do i feel like third trial is gonna be temple and double corrupts will be back on the menu
Can you still use a gemcutters prism to upgrade quality on a corrupted gem?
what tab is that you have your spells in?
All the extra uncut gems and spells/supports? That would be the gem tab,
@@smurtle7959 cheers didn't know we got one of those :D snatched that right up
Watched Mattjestic and he was using Vaal orbs not corruption orbs . Cheap cheap.
I have no idea whats being said here. It'slike listening to instructions given by the teacher on 'Peanuts'...
At least now I know theres some trick you can do with lvl 17 skill gems to get more sockets. So with that knowledge I can go find somebody to explain it better.
Yeah I found out the hard way that using a vaal can reduce a link 🖇️ 🔗 ugh
Also. Just am update on that gem legionair summoner. Its ass in comparison lol.
Sure some real late game options might open up. But the campaign is am absolute slog being so weak for so long. Witch has nodes from level 1 for summons. Merc maxes its summons at level 30 lol. Had a few good spikes in dage that carried. Its still going well enough. But the 100% more damage witch gets automatically is just too good to not do. Very unfortunate.
Ill wait for templar to release to run another summoner. For now ill keep pushing. If they shifted the legionaire ascendency nodes around a bit it would be way way better. But having the +1 skill gem AND multiple supports hidden behind garbage reallt hurts its viability while leveling. +1 should be on a forst ascend node instead of quality. Quality is just too weak and random im this game.
Spirit is also a huge issue. The rwduced coat node should but doesnt help with spirit.
Also the gas arrow getting nuked into infinity and my auto bomb getting it a day later reallt tanked a day for me lol. Having to massively adjust.
Arsonist works decent but reavers feel way better most of the time. Body block amd damage is comparable imo. Need more support slots which ill use this videos method and speal more on it.
Currently looking to roll a higher damage scepter. Ill update after i roll a good one. Still rocking a buff lvl24 rod. Havnt rolled ahit for mods since lol. 25 scepters later haha
P.s. supports not having quality at all reallt made that node useless lol. The moment they add quality stats to them the build gets huge. Here is to hoping that happens
How do you get 8 global minion skill gem levels? holy
Dude can you remove the overlay when posting these.
go make your own stream and do it yourself if you dont like how he does it here.
@@Saki630it's a valid criticism. what's your issue?
have you heard about the extra nerf on srs GGG is about to drop no more auto summon through fire wall and only 5 RS
is it fool's april joke or what, small nodes on witch have extra minion damage where on a different class nodes are normal? talking about beginning of a witch tree
Fuck yeah POE Shit, thats why i love this game so much
still DS crafting i prefer that sockets would open at certain levels of skill gem than a crafting on top of it.
Naaaaah. This is way cooler. It makes the in game economy flourish and thrive. Or else you're just playing Diablo...
Literally just tried this and did not hit a single +1 socket out of 10+ vaals
Results from 13:
2x Quality
3x Gem lvl +1
6x Nothing or non noticeable negativ (- Quality on no Quality, Counting Gem levels here too because i randomly used 14 and 15 gems and didnt check which one turned what)
2x -1 Socket
rng gods. I got mine first try
I think it should be 1 in 8 so you are unlucky, I think I got 2 gems with +1 socket out of 16/17
1 greater jewel = ~102 Vaals right?
Assuming 1 greater jewller = 17 Exalts
1 Exalt = 6 Vaal
Am I the only one not understanding this game lol, I am near end of ACT 2 and mever done any of this 😂
Wait, isn't he doing it wrong? From what I understood, you're supposed to vaal a level 1 skill gem and then upgrade it to a higher level after hitting the 5-link, right?
It doesn't matter what skill level you do it at, he's using 17s as he has a ton.
This still is expensive to do.
what are the gems that go in your passive tree?
jewels not gems.
@@Sephiroso. thanks bro.. where do we get those? are they endgame
@@TimeForTrim i've gotten like 3 randomly during campaign. but yes they drop specifically from one of the end game mechanics for the most part. I forget which one exactly.
Ive gotten 4 red jewels and 1 blue jewel in my adventures to and through act 2 cruel
Ghazzy how do you get SRS😅
Its a spirit gem, just cut a spirit gem and on the witch tab it should be there
I dont even have a vaal orb 😂
I tried this shit and failed 5 times in a row...
Thank you for your content
tried 5 times, nothing happend
Anyone catched the global chat channel? He said it so fast I cant understand it, something with 6s 😆
You mean the global 6666 minion chat?
@@dyingburrito1372 Thats it! thanks :)
I just went broke trying to 5-link my main skill. Did not hit. THANKS GHAZZY.
you could also use the corruption altar in the pyramid where you activate the soul cores for alva to save some vaal obs
is this repeatable?
everyone already used it in campaign. And this a one time use anyway. And you would need several attempts. WDYM wtf.
@@kasikcz it is if you open a new map instance for every attempt
what is the name of the stash ghazyy keeps all the new gems ?
gems
What’s the summoner chat channel? 161616? You rushed saying it :)
/Global 6666 !
@ thanks. Will add that. You can only be in one global at a time right? I think I was in 1000 for poe1, which is where the Reddit guys hung out
if you love that much what chance of getting fresh with group. just kidding
and how to get a 6 link?
I still dont get it... So 4 supports is the max we can get?
If you corrupt the gem in this way.. then yes... Max you can have in game is 5 support gems. Since uncut gems are dropping like candy right now... you would use this 5L till you have acquired the 5 and 6 link Jew orb. Then just make a new gem and 6 link it and replace your corrupted 5L.
@@cd8788oooo
I started this huge discussion in 6666 yesterday, i feel i did a good thing.
Needed 2 randoms to confirm my claims, after that chat went wild vaaling all their gems.
inb4 it gets nerfed
But u can't lvl corrupted gem to desire lvl ?
I guess you can? But in my experience once something is corrupted it can no longer be messed with... Can someone confirm?
@@patsyh have you tried it? Other people are saying you can .
@@patsyh Wrong. You can level up the gem after it's corrupted. You just can't up the quality.
@@dannycole125 i was wrong. but cant get more socket
Wtf is going on here is this path of exile 2 or 1?
what is 17ex?
only thing i don't get about that post reading it is how does a 5L only option other then doing it cost 17ex? I don't do trading, trading has always been a nightmare, nothing but scammers and people wasting your time and making you leave maps instantly because impatient using up your portals constantly and ignoring your offer to buy only to raise price each time someone messages them. i refuse to trade. so how is it only option other then this method is 17ex? surely i am missing something here. A solo self found pays 17ex at an NPC somewhere to get 5L gems? huh? I'm not this far into game yet, i only have 4L skills, just curious for someone who doesn't trade what my option is then.
We have had two very different experiences with trading lol.
the only way to get 5 link gems is to use a greater jeweller's orb which at the time costs 17 exalted orbs on trade site. so if you are ssf just keep farming until you drop a greater.
@@Zerkerber_kek Or if you have a bunch of val orbs.. smack it with vaal orbs.
@@cd8788 If you only play hardcore trading is a lot better, i play softcore, it's incredibly toxic in softcore and full of scammers. and not only that but it ruins game as well to trade, if you trade then no point in farming anything as you can just buy it instead.
thanks
100% they make corrupted gems unable to level.
For now we can
You can't have 6L gems? Is that correct or what am I missing?
You're not counting the skill itself
Yes you can have a 6L gem. This method will make you a 5L gem.
inb4 fix
Nothing to fix here.. this is how GGG intended it.
@cd8788 intended to keep low level gem to unlock very endgame content ? Sure
@@ultiraleron5208 The instructions say to level after the corruption... maybe for some reason you can level it after the corruption?
I was a fan for a long Time BUT you Copy and Paste from Chinese,i know everything b4 you so theres no Point anymore to subscribe
Nice
Thank you for sharing
thanks for making the vid to help spread the word Ghazzy - hope this is helpful for folks and if you're a minion player be sure to join /global 6666 for tips like these!
Is there a discord?