What is interesting in these early episodes is the lack of trust of the "officials" towards the TV team. I had heard this before from a team member that they were treated as a sideshow that made a mockery of archaeology by doing their three day digs for the camera. By the end of the series, the same officials were queuing up to be on the show.
Ae Archeology has always been shrouded in mystery, and supposition. Television brings clarity to millions of TV viewers to what's happening. Make no mistake, its the viewers tax paying $$ that wants accountability to where the money is being spent and why.
because time team turned out to have lots and lots of money to do archeology (and during the financial crisis of 2008-09 all building works stopped and so no archeology to be had)
It is rather interesting that academic and "institutional" historians, archaeologists, scientists, etc., often seem to react in a defensive way towards anything that threatens the established narrative? I wish they could evolve out of that.
It is rather interesting that academic and "institutional" historians, archaeologists, scientists, etc., often seem to react in a defensive way towards anything that threatens the established narrative? I wish they could evolve out of that.
This episode was just crying out for Stewart Ainsworth and his reading of the local roads and their access to major Roman roads, his reading the 'lumps and bumps' and what they mean and going up in the helicopter to give his view on what any crop marks may mean. And his interterpritation of the structure could be and his thoughts on its siting in the general area, and if old field boundries can tell us anything about the mystery building.
I just discovered this series a couple of weeks ago and I just love Robin with his cardigan, hat and posh accent. I’d love nothing more than to sit down and talk to him but I’m sad to have just discovered he passed away nearly 11 years ago. He strikes me as a really good man. 😔
th-cam.com/video/ecK_ibQ4DGU/w-d-xo.html /Robin had his own Historical show that featured more background info on various TT digs. This link (if it works 🤞) is for one such episode. Go to Reijer Zaaijer youtube site, then click 'videos' option to see more. I admired Robin as well. cheers!
I just wanted to follow up on your observations by saying that I was quite surprised to see that plastic digital watch on his wrist; the choice was incongruous with the rest of his style. (Perhaps it was a rather expensive digital watch.)
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It's amazing watching this filmed when Time Team was so new and hotly debating contacting English Heritage. Such a change from 2024 when they are given pride of place at Sutton Hoo.
And people are still only just discovering this program. I only first learned about it around 10 years ago, and I didn't know what geophysics was. Could be the new people discovering this series are likewise, so it never hurts to give an explanation once in awhile.
in several of these early episodes they also explain what GPS is and how it works, and just a few years later they don't bother explaining how any of the technology works
I have watched every single episode that time team as made. And yet I still can’t stop watching them. For an America man thank you for showing us your history in the ground
@@annpartoon5300 I (American here) find the great variety in accents so interesting as there's really not so much distance from place to place. I find the accents really delightful as well.
05:47 a little kid in a pedal car driving slowly watching two adults talk animatedly about something…the innocence of early episodes! and this episode features Victor speaking more than in all of his previous episodes combined, he didn’t go overboard trying to explain as Robin did, just a quick basis and let the art speak for itself. plus him working in the background while others speak shows how hard he works to get his drawings done
I only became aware of the series about 10 years ago or so.. it's hard to believe how much time has passed since the very beginning. All those little kids will be in their thirties and forties now, bless ♥️
This for me is the classic 'Time Team' experience, after watching so much historically interesting TV i do find this real edge of the seat stuff in this episode. It is for me no doubt the finest series of shows of its type ever made............................Thank you.
Aha! I'm watching these marvelous shows from another continent and have been wondering about the yellow flowers all around various locations. I've just seen a closeup, and as I suspected they're enormous dandelions! They are absolutely the biggest healthiest dandelions I have ever seen. As a gardener I'm often amazed when watching the Time Team's diggers doing what they clearly love, at the fine and beautiful richness of the English soil. It looks as though the "rockiness" is most often attributable to the "archeology" it contains. Nice dirt! What a wonderful show. I find it especially fun whenever the locals and children can be involved. I bet it's made an indelible impression on many lives, and I've often wondered how many archeologists were produced as a direct result of the show coming to town.
she knows what’s going on and why but they want to make what’s more entertaining and ignoring the future of the site rather than how it affects the entire country…seriously, it’s already proven to have changed the history of the area yet they want to plough through it and get their quick fix rather than document it for the future
@@bostonrailfan2427 Well i guess there's a little devil with a shovel sitting on every Archeologists shoulder bouncing up and down and cowing "DIG!" on the top of it's lung - sometimes hard to herd in I suppose
I think I read some place that Ian had been an archaeologist himself. After I learned that I wondered if that was part of his skill with the digger. He certainly contributed a lot.
Wikipedia has bios of some of the team members; many are on university faculties. Tony’s credentials are impressive (in addition to Blackadder. IIRC, he’s a highly decorated knight.
I keep watching these shows and seeing the general English people get involved, dig and willing to learn. Honestly, as an American I cannot see whole American towns getting so involved and excited. In fact, I can even see (hear) some of them saying what's in it for me ($)? I just might be getting very jaded in my old age.
I think for most people the attraction is to see themselves on TV. It is good that they always tried to get schoolkids to help as some of those will be inspired to become a new generation of archaeologists.
Yes, much prefer the general English rather than the ungeneral English. They can be a bit dodgy. And as an American, you seem dull. Jaded indeed. Sorry chap
@@deadpanfish I think you misunderstand and perhaps I used an incorrect word. I meant the general populous (not in a snarky way, but was just trying to differentiate from celebrities and the general populous). Sorry you took it as an insult, it was never meant to be.
Actually, few are English, save Phil on Time Team (this fact came from a DNA test he did on another later show), as the greater % of population are Anglo Saxon, aka Germanics. I share this with you as I too am an American, a very Irish American that happens to have a couple of my Degrees in the general subject and a personal desire for my own heritage History + an ongoing Researcher in Ancient History resulted in my awareness of this lesser know info that I share with you. The early English, like the Welsh and Irish were of Basque Lineage. Later invasions left the Gene pool noticeably low in English Male (Paternal Chromosomes) While the Maternal held and has a more expected influence of Anglo Saxon influence. The data and references are also careful not to use the reference "ethnic cleansing", but the numbers sure speak to that potential. These facts like most Research of History related subjects, come with a variety of "Roots" some call "Rabbit Holes", and those threaten the "Mainstream Academia's" "Story", which is why it remains obscure. I, being more of an "Authentic and Traditional Academic Standard" set aside the ,Mainstream's 19th Century based Paradigm" aka "Darwinian Theory applied as if proven fact", and I continue my Research following the "Standards of Science and Research" (which forbids holding a Belief, Theory, or Opinion, that can interfere with the greater facts emerging). Their entire Story and Timeline is fixed to that Theory and as Genetics/DNA testing and studies proceed, the entire "House of Cards" will eventually come down, as the current data findings continues to go in another direction. (We Modern Humans Evolve, but the Theory doesn't fit our facts). I could write a book, but for the value intended here, this clarity a worthy highlight of knowing. I find iit interesting when applied to the Time Team and other Documantary Programs I watch. BTW, the whole Egyptian Story by Mainstream is highly off track, which is why there remains so many questions using their Story. When the more accurate facts are applied, the blurry effect begains to disappear, and quickly. Cognitative Dissonance is a subject that can be applied to the results of having the greater facts, and that is also why the information is slow to leak through to the Public. No worries, facts are present whether we know them or not and the facts I'm aware of offer far more positive value than any point one might fear. There is absolutely no valid reason for any fears on this or any subject, its merely a useful tool for Media and Power Controls. The real facts are far more exciting and offer the individual infinite desired potentials. They also prove "there was/is a Creator Source behind all that is of our 3D Being and Univers", though I would not attempt to define this in any Religion based statement, Spiritual, but not Religion. The Show with Phil's DNA is one of the more recent. He has a far more Ancient Maternal (Female) genetic lineage than the Queen (who is of Germanic lineage and that of a Semitic value, actually "Abraham" , which she acknowledged.) In closing, I've far more to discover, but I will say, that which is contributed to Myth, is not to be ignored, and my statement, should it be asked, would be as follows: "The Mainstream Academics, particularly the Archaeologists, continue to try to put Cinderella's Shoe on Drucella's Foot". - and - "The Mainstream Archaeologists will to prove to be the Myth Makers". - Beth Bartlett Statements here are based on Peer Reviewed Published Journal Article facts and acknowledged Studies. Best Wellbeing
Finding all these shows, in all the years that it ran, are extremely interesting, to watch so much history of where people had been, or what kind of life they led with what remains can be found. I would Love to find out MORE history with these older churches as well, cause I know there is a LOT of history with them as well..
Found something interesting as to why Roman Architectural Gems were built to Last & helped to Weather Time. A team of scientist made two samples of concrete, one to ancient Roman formulas, the other with modern standards, then they deliberately cracked them and waited two weeks. While water seeped through the modern-day type of concrete, the cracks in the concrete made following Roman recipes had "healed'
I wonder, if this episode had been filmed 10-15 years later, would they have left those remains untouched? Was this a case of where they were terrified that the show would be viewed as an adversary, and not an ally, to archeology? This was terribly early on in the series, and they were still trying to establish themselves as being serious, and not “just another program on the telly”. The site has been scheduled but it appears no other work has been done there. It’s a shame really, if it is that large and important, why not learn more about it.
@Richard Aubergine that made absolutely no sense. Your original comment was antagonistic, mean spirited and contributed absolutely nothing of substance to the conversation. Your just a bully.
I wondered about that: they talked about the presence of the apse as if it were really significant. I'd normally associate an apse with church architecture, but because Carenza and the others seemed so excited about it, I wonder if it has some other significance in a late Roman context. Does it mean it's a palace? Or is a sign of "high status"? Or something religous, like a temple? Were temples built with apses?
This episode is so old, they needed the go-ahead from English Heritage before they could dig the most interesting part of the field. In later episodes, they wouldn't waste two full days of digging. English Heritage permissions would already be there from day 1.
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Did archeologists have ever done an excavation on that farm field after this episode? Curious to know. Beside this I like to mention... The drawings of Victor Ambrus in all the episodes I've watched so far are quite impressive!
@@PetrPechar1975 Another "thank you" for this link; I wish the original program had provided a map of Britain with the site highlighted for their now worldwide audience.
I found this field on Google Maps: www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B031'00.8%22N+1%C2%B056'45.5%22W/@51.5169234,-1.9475065,654m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d51.51689!4d-1.945981
I'm glad that as the series progressed you can see not only how Time Team itself, but the archaeological world in general changed its attitude about scheduling sites. Though I do believe sites should be scheduled, the attitude that was prevalent when this series started, namely that sites should if at all possible be conserved for some future archaeologist with even better technology, was slowly modified and made more reasonable. While it's true that future archaeologists may indeed have better technology than we do presently, but to refuse to take the opportunity to learn what we can now on any part of the site is a risk. Sites are always at risk of destruction.
Love this program, its attitude, and the individuals chosen to serve as "cast"! My take on the dynamics of scheduling as presented in the program (showing concretely how archaeological law affects the individual) is that there likely only so much money, always limited, to investigate and develop a site in England. Of course, the landowner must be compensated. But I suspect that a farmer often does not want the intrusion of the archaeological authorities. I think that explains the tension in the scene on the part of yeoman, farmer Barnes (currently at ~12:30) meeting with the Oxford expert, Henig. You can almost see him (Barnes) thinking to himself that he's now lost the freedom to use his land in the way he wants. I'm not taking one side or the other -- although personally I prefer the preservation of sites over inconvenience to any one individual. This program could be entitled "Archaeological Bureaucrat Meets Yeoman Farmer." Again, whatever the name of the Time Team program, its substance is quite appealing, for it ultimately celebrates the people of England by honoring their marvelous history (be it Paleolithic or Saxon or Roman). Live on Time Team! Thank you for posting.
@@abogadojon I'm not against scheduling as such, more about how it was practiced archaeologically sometimes. For a period there was this constant feeling that sites should almost be preserved intact for some mythical future archaeologist with better technology to dig them. The only problem is that sites are not only lost despite scheduling, but sometimes are not what we think and the only way we really know is to dig. Moreover, some of that I think was reaction to realizing just how much our improvement in technology in recent decades increased what we were learning from sites. Archaeologists became all too self-aware, and in light of the early history of archaeology (a lot of lost knowledge due to their ideas then) that is still a legacy now, I think what happened became a reaction to the past. We need to more about what we can currently learn, and leave enough of any site intact so that it can also be dug later as technology and knowledge improves. That way we know what we are scheduling far more precisely, and will have better questions of any site on return. I think that TT actually helped to prove this point over the years.
@@a.westenholz4032 I agree. A future landowner could unknowingly or deliberately use "deep ploughing" and wreck the place before anyone from EH knows about it. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened. There was a scheduled building in Sydney that a developer couldn't bulldoze for a new development. So he did anyway. He was fined but still made a bucket of money on the development.
In 2016 a family discovered one of the best preserved Roman Villas in England when they commissioned some work be done on their barn. You can find stories about just by searching, "Tockenham, Roman Villa". Edit: For reference, this episode of Time Team was recorded in 1995.
ironic as Corenza was arguing just that with trying to wait for national permission but the others were trying to make it more interesting and plough through the weekend(literally)
Can anyone comment on what follow-up archeology happened after this show, as it seems it was very significant to do so at the time. And where one might find information on the results?
Well, yes and no. I'm an archaeologist and while less is more in this case, you can't claim a site is of national significance without doing a Phase 1 assessment. Even just doing geo work isn't good enough; here in the US, we'd do shovel testing on transects and then, if warranted after artifact analysis, test pits would be put in in places where they would produce the best results. From there, re-assessments would be made. It's a bit different in the UK since on a site like this, they wouldn't shovel test - and on most sites that they think have been disturbed by farming, they'd drop in larger treanches right away, using the geo information as a guide. So, Carenza is both right and wrong in this case.
@@MaritimeHeritageMN Since she was actually the *EH* representative I think she was more right than wrong. *EH* restrictions aren't as severe now as they were then and *TT* was still seen as _frivolous_. It was difficult for her and it shows. I think she did a good job under the circumstances.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 well considering her boss from EH seemed annoyed that all she was called in on was the geophys, I will go with BO, assumed to be truthful as an expert in field, in that she was being premature and over reacting. Amanda even basicly laid out that something along what BO had mentioned should have been already done. It was more a case of Carenza panicicing that her career might be ruined by some silly little television program. All the archeologists on site were very well known in field, quite experienced and had worked on major EH sites. They know the rules as well or better then Carenza which is why they were all ripping their hair out when she was throwing her weight around. They knew full well what procedure normally was and knew geophys wasn't enough to go off of.
true and false. it’s true that it’s a relief, it’s false that it’s not a sculpture. a relief is actually a form of sculpture, there’s multiple different kind of sculpture styles. they’re correct in calling it a sculpture
Yes, it's good archæology. These are mostly either rescue digs or evaluation digs and are fully recorded in minute detail for future archæologists and future excavations.
If you care at all at this point, the last episode aired in 2014. However, they have a patreon set up and will be starting digs with a new team (and probably some old faces) in the near future.
I love how different people pick up on completely different things in these shows. I've seen every episode many times and never noticed Phil's jackets, but I will from now on!
A lot of people complaining about the red tape aren't taking the ideas behind modern archeology into account. When you excavate a site, you destroy it. Once it has been dug it can't be dug again. When a site is discovered now they attempt to do as little possible damage to it. To preserve it for posterity but also because we recognize that techniques will improve in the future. So much information that could easily be found out today has been permanently lost by earlier, clumsier excavations. Much of it, even into the 20th century, was little more than treasure hunting. The bits and pieces they used to discard back then are incredibly valuable to science. Even the soil around an object can give us information. That's all been learned in the past 70 years or so. How much more will we be able to do later? By preserving these sites we preserve the information they contain to be discovered at a later date. Pompeii has been under excavations for hundreds of years and still has a lot more sites to dig but we don't. Not all at once and only when a really good hypothesis exists that necessitates reopening a site. I would be cool to dig it all up and see all the walls but we'd loose so much in doing so all at once. I hope people reading this understand the processes and ideas a bit better.
There's been peoples living in the UK for so very a long time going back for so long that I think that most anywhere one would digg that your going to find sighs of past history from all times past as there a has been mean meany changes over time. As people moved for the pasted to the way side and newer and newer stuff being built and the old just faded away. What is now field may town village or city and what was once town village or city may now be field it just its all changed in time
he can’t dig or build on the site without approval from a national authority not a local one, he can’t allow anyone to forage for artifacts without permission, he might have to get approval for the sale of the property…the one thing he can do is still farm on the site as it’s buried deep enough under where he’s ploughing to not fully disturb the site
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 You are wrong. Gugeul or ondol system does not exist in Japan as a general heating system - only the Japanese who had experienced it in Korea and China would have built it special. Traditionally Japanese homes were not heated, except for the hearth in the central space. Japanese who live in snowy regions or Hokkaido used charcoal braziers for various spaces and a cotton padded hanten (winter house coat) during the cold season. The main obstacle to the use of heated clay floors in Japan is the use of wood and tatami (reed straw) matting as traditional flooring materials. Japan is situated on a very volcanic groups of islands largely stretching in the North South direction and other unique natural features makes the climate milder and warmer than the continental China and peninsular Korea.
@@Korwinexile it is semi-traditional... that is it is a system quite commonly used in houses well pre-war, but not in the classical or Edo periods. most traditional heating devices are portable braziers carried on oneself, the heath (with the fish) being primarily largely used for cooking, though an oil containing pan may be used in central mountainous areas such as Tochigi, Yamanashi or Nagano. the heating system uses hot air goes underneath thick beams of dark cedar often found in public areas of the house & rarely covered with Tatami
What is interesting in these early episodes is the lack of trust of the "officials" towards the TV team. I had heard this before from a team member that they were treated as a sideshow that made a mockery of archaeology by doing their three day digs for the camera. By the end of the series, the same officials were queuing up to be on the show.
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Archeology has always been shrouded in mystery, and supposition. Television brings clarity to millions of TV viewers to what's happening. Make no mistake, its the viewers tax paying $$ that wants accountability to where the money is being spent and why.
@@laureenmagee393 By the end of the program they were the most respected team archeologists in Britain.
because time team turned out to have lots and lots of money to do archeology (and during the financial crisis of 2008-09 all building works stopped and so no archeology to be had)
It is rather interesting that academic and "institutional" historians, archaeologists, scientists, etc., often seem to react in a defensive way towards anything that threatens the established narrative? I wish they could evolve out of that.
It is rather interesting that academic and "institutional" historians, archaeologists, scientists, etc., often seem to react in a defensive way towards anything that threatens the established narrative? I wish they could evolve out of that.
2021 is my 79th year. Wish I were still young and fit enough to run with Sir Tony ... It looks so enjoyable.
@Napoleon Hercules , Thank you, Sir! Will do soonest. All help and guidance appreciated!
I love your name. yes the energy would be great.
Me too, young lady 👍
Hope your still watching
This episode was just crying out for Stewart Ainsworth and his reading of the local roads and their access to major Roman roads, his reading the 'lumps and bumps' and what they mean and going up in the helicopter to give his view on what any crop marks may mean. And his interterpritation of the structure could be and his thoughts on its siting in the general area, and if old field boundries can tell us anything about the mystery building.
You're in luck, they went back to Turkdean and did a live broadcast special! It's a really good episode as well!
I just discovered this series a couple of weeks ago and I just love Robin with his cardigan, hat and posh accent. I’d love nothing more than to sit down and talk to him but I’m sad to have just discovered he passed away nearly 11 years ago. He strikes me as a really good man. 😔
th-cam.com/video/ecK_ibQ4DGU/w-d-xo.html /Robin had his own Historical show that featured more background info on various TT digs. This link (if it works 🤞) is for one such episode. Go to Reijer Zaaijer youtube site, then click 'videos' option to see more. I admired Robin as well. cheers!
Yes, one of the best. I would've loved to have talked to him as well.
His description of the "Blood Eagle
to Tony: priceless
I love the way he just strolls up and casually corrects Pevsner.
I just wanted to follow up on your observations by saying that I was quite surprised to see that plastic digital watch on his wrist; the choice was incongruous with the rest of his style. (Perhaps it was a rather expensive digital watch.)
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It's amazing watching this filmed when Time Team was so new and hotly debating contacting English Heritage. Such a change from 2024 when they are given pride of place at Sutton Hoo.
"Tempus Teamus, innit?" is one of the best moments in TimeTeam History. An absolute classic.
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As a knitter, I'm just smitten by the amount of precious knitted sweaters in this episode!
As a fellow knitter and a tailor on top of that, I noticed them too. But I doubt they are hand knitted. The fitting isn't good enough for that.
The thumbnail for this episode is by far my favorite of all the TT episodes that have been posted. Tony looks so squirrelly!
You can tell how early an episode is by, among all the appearance clues, the fact that Mick and Tony are explaining "geophys" to the viewers.
Tony calling 'geophys' a horrible word, only to the use it for the next 15 years at least 10 times per episode haha
And people are still only just discovering this program. I only first learned about it around 10 years ago, and I didn't know what geophysics was. Could be the new people discovering this series are likewise, so it never hurts to give an explanation once in awhile.
And the fact they're driving a Suzuki Sierra not a Land Rover 😂
Tony has lots of hair too ! LoL
in several of these early episodes they also explain what GPS is and how it works, and just a few years later they don't bother explaining how any of the technology works
@@edwardfletcher7790Tony has his glasses too…but, imo, he makes the show work…the new guy is all showy talk😒
I have watched every single episode that time team as made. And yet I still can’t stop watching them. For an America man thank you for showing us your history in the ground
My God, they are all young. Except Mick of course, he's always looked like that.
Love this show!
Micks brummie accent is less strong than in the first episodes
And the ladies' haircuts are still from the 80's ;)
Wonder how old Mick's sweater is?. He's been wearing this sweater for ages!
@@annpartoon5300 I (American here) find the great variety in accents so interesting as there's really not so much distance from place to place. I find the accents really delightful as well.
@@milliebanks7209 He probably bought a few dozen of it...
05:47 a little kid in a pedal car driving slowly watching two adults talk animatedly about something…the innocence of early episodes!
and this episode features Victor speaking more than in all of his previous episodes combined, he didn’t go overboard trying to explain as Robin did, just a quick basis and let the art speak for itself. plus him working in the background while others speak shows how hard he works to get his drawings done
I only became aware of the series about 10 years ago or so.. it's hard to believe how much time has passed since the very beginning. All those little kids will be in their thirties and forties now, bless ♥️
This for me is the classic 'Time Team' experience, after watching so much historically interesting TV i do find this real edge of the seat stuff in this episode. It is for me no doubt the finest series of shows of its type ever made............................Thank you.
That stone fish was a lovely work of art. The stonemason's name is lost to history, but his craftmanship remains.
Aha! I'm watching these marvelous shows from another continent and have been wondering about the yellow flowers all around various locations. I've just seen a closeup, and as I suspected they're enormous dandelions! They are absolutely the biggest healthiest dandelions I have ever seen. As a gardener I'm often amazed when watching the Time Team's diggers doing what they clearly love, at the fine and beautiful richness of the English soil. It looks as though the "rockiness" is most often attributable to the "archeology" it contains. Nice dirt! What a wonderful show. I find it especially fun whenever the locals and children can be involved. I bet it's made an indelible impression on many lives, and I've often wondered how many archeologists were produced as a direct result of the show coming to town.
Pretty sure those are mums.
@@samflower31 How interesting! Thank you.
Dandelions, for sure. Not tall enough for chrysanthemums (chrysanthema(?))
@@EnglishJoanInOregon Aha! Here in N. California (the SF Bay Area) I'm used to seeing much smaller dandelion flowers. Thank you!
Ohmy, The square view. This history documentary is history itself now. Good to see it again.
Don't you just love it when Carenza gets so resolute and argues for her rationale?
I like Carenza very much. She often explains things in a way I understand.
she knows what’s going on and why but they want to make what’s more entertaining and ignoring the future of the site rather than how it affects the entire country…seriously, it’s already proven to have changed the history of the area yet they want to plough through it and get their quick fix rather than document it for the future
@@bostonrailfan2427 Well i guess there's a little devil with a shovel sitting on every Archeologists shoulder bouncing up and down and cowing "DIG!" on the top of it's lung - sometimes hard to herd in I suppose
Oh my goodness, that thumbnail lol. I love the Time Team players: we learn, we groan, and best of all, we laugh ❤️
My favorite history program. Great host great show.
I'm always impressed by their digger operators. They can remove the thinnest layer of soil.
I saw a demo where Ian peeled a banana with the digger
I think I read some place that Ian had been an archaeologist himself. After I learned that I wondered if that was part of his skill with the digger. He certainly contributed a lot.
Wikipedia has bios of some of the team members; many are on university faculties. Tony’s credentials are impressive (in addition to Blackadder. IIRC, he’s a highly decorated knight.
@@elizabethneill3825 That would go some way to explain how he was able to spot features in the ground at times that the others didn't see :P
Oh my god, these old GIS maps. Time Team has itself become history.
At 33:44, Tony's grin-to-camera after "peel off the top and see what there is" made me laugh so hard.
I imagine that's the same grin he gives when he's been invited to the bedroom!
Yh I caught it lol..he looks up,grins and back down paying attention...love it😜🤦♂️🤣✌️🥃
Thank you time team, seriously I love this show n it’s so amazing. Thank you
I keep watching these shows and seeing the general English people get involved, dig and willing to learn. Honestly, as an American I cannot see whole American towns getting so involved and excited. In fact, I can even see (hear) some of them saying what's in it for me ($)? I just might be getting very jaded in my old age.
I think for most people the attraction is to see themselves on TV. It is good that they always tried to get schoolkids to help as some of those will be inspired to become a new generation of archaeologists.
Yes, much prefer the general English rather than the ungeneral English. They can be a bit dodgy. And as an American, you seem dull. Jaded indeed. Sorry chap
@@deadpanfish I think you misunderstand and perhaps I used an incorrect word. I meant the general populous (not in a snarky way, but was just trying to differentiate from celebrities and the general populous). Sorry you took it as an insult, it was never meant to be.
Actually, few are English, save Phil on Time Team (this fact came from a DNA test he did on another later show), as the greater % of population are Anglo Saxon, aka Germanics.
I share this with you as I too am an American, a very Irish American that happens to have a couple of my Degrees in the general subject and a personal desire for my own heritage History + an ongoing Researcher in Ancient History resulted in my awareness of this lesser know info that I share with you.
The early English, like the Welsh and Irish were of Basque Lineage. Later invasions left the Gene pool noticeably low in English Male (Paternal Chromosomes) While the Maternal held and has a more expected influence of Anglo Saxon influence.
The data and references are also careful not to use the reference "ethnic cleansing", but the numbers sure speak to that potential.
These facts like most Research of History related subjects, come with a variety of "Roots" some call "Rabbit Holes", and those threaten the "Mainstream Academia's" "Story", which is why it remains obscure.
I, being more of an "Authentic and Traditional Academic Standard" set aside the ,Mainstream's 19th Century based Paradigm" aka "Darwinian Theory applied as if proven fact", and I continue my Research following the "Standards of Science and Research" (which forbids holding a Belief, Theory, or Opinion, that can interfere with the greater facts emerging). Their entire Story and Timeline is fixed to that Theory and as Genetics/DNA testing and studies proceed, the entire "House of Cards" will eventually come down, as the current data findings continues to go in another direction. (We Modern Humans Evolve, but the Theory doesn't fit our facts).
I could write a book, but for the value intended here, this clarity a worthy highlight of knowing.
I find iit interesting when applied to the Time Team and other Documantary Programs I watch.
BTW, the whole Egyptian Story by Mainstream is highly off track, which is why there remains so many questions using their Story. When the more accurate facts are applied, the blurry effect begains to disappear, and quickly.
Cognitative Dissonance is a subject that can be applied to the results of having the greater facts, and that is also why the information is slow to leak through to the Public.
No worries, facts are present whether we know them or not and the facts I'm aware of offer far more positive value than any point one might fear.
There is absolutely no valid reason for any fears on this or any subject, its merely a useful tool for Media and Power Controls.
The real facts are far more exciting and offer the individual infinite desired potentials. They also prove "there was/is a Creator Source behind all that is of our 3D Being and Univers", though I would not attempt to define this in any Religion based statement, Spiritual, but not Religion.
The Show with Phil's DNA is one of the more recent. He has a far more Ancient Maternal (Female) genetic lineage than the Queen (who is of Germanic lineage and that of a Semitic value, actually "Abraham" , which she acknowledged.)
In closing, I've far more to discover, but I will say, that which is contributed to Myth, is not to be ignored, and my statement, should it be asked, would be as follows:
"The Mainstream Academics, particularly the Archaeologists, continue to try to put Cinderella's Shoe on Drucella's Foot". - and - "The Mainstream Archaeologists will to prove to be the Myth Makers".
- Beth Bartlett
Statements here are based on Peer Reviewed Published Journal Article facts and acknowledged Studies.
Best Wellbeing
@@deadpanfish
Please see my reply here. It may prove to expand the idea of "General" and "English" ...
I can't believe how young Phil is in this episode! When does he start wearing his Daisy Dukes?
Finding all these shows, in all the years that it ran, are extremely interesting, to watch so much history of where people had been, or what kind of life they led with what remains can be found. I would Love to find out MORE history with these older churches as well, cause I know there is a LOT of history with them as well..
Found something interesting as to why Roman Architectural Gems were built to Last & helped to Weather Time.
A team of scientist made two samples of concrete, one to ancient Roman formulas, the other with modern standards, then they deliberately cracked them and waited two weeks.
While water seeped through the modern-day type of concrete, the cracks in the concrete made following Roman recipes had "healed'
I wonder, if this episode had been filmed 10-15 years later, would they have left those remains untouched? Was this a case of where they were terrified that the show would be viewed as an adversary, and not an ally, to archeology? This was terribly early on in the series, and they were still trying to establish themselves as being serious, and not “just another program on the telly”.
The site has been scheduled but it appears no other work has been done there. It’s a shame really, if it is that large and important, why not learn more about it.
Great show. No sex, no violence, no profanity just straight science.
@Richard Aubergine don’t be an ass.
@Richard Aubergine that made absolutely no sense. Your original comment was antagonistic, mean spirited and contributed absolutely nothing of substance to the conversation. Your just a bully.
So cute as they watch geophys results being printed on the tailgate of the truck. Such a clear result - the apse!
I wondered about that: they talked about the presence of the apse as if it were really significant. I'd normally associate an apse with church architecture, but because Carenza and the others seemed so excited about it, I wonder if it has some other significance in a late Roman context. Does it mean it's a palace? Or is a sign of "high status"? Or something religous, like a temple? Were temples built with apses?
Some of Tony's favorite words throughout the series, "Hall", "Horde", "Medieval - Meddy-YEEEE-vuhl", "Posh", "High Status".
And of course geophys
"Bish-bosh-bash" :P
You forgot romantic. He uses that one a lot.
This episode is so old, they needed the go-ahead from English Heritage before they could dig the most interesting part of the field. In later episodes, they wouldn't waste two full days of digging. English Heritage permissions would already be there from day 1.
This must be a very early episode, when Phil's hat will still newish.
Pretty sure he's had at least 3 hats....
The fact that Tony had hair should have been your first clue.
And Tony still had some hair
I too have watched the evolution of Phil's hat 🤣
It's like Doctor who - it regenerates!😂
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One of my favourite episodes
Mick wearing that same sweater 🤓
Fascinating to know they had the geophysics back in 1994, I was assuming this was in the late 90s. Just imagine what they could do w LIDAR
Rip Robin, Mic and Victor
I have watched so many and enjoy every one of them
Did archeologists have ever done an excavation on that farm field after this episode? Curious to know.
Beside this I like to mention... The drawings of Victor Ambrus in all the episodes I've watched so far are quite impressive!
@@PetrPechar1975 Thanks for sharing the link! Very interesting!
@@PetrPechar1975 Another "thank you" for this link; I wish the original program had provided a map of Britain with the site highlighted for their now worldwide audience.
I found this field on Google Maps: www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B031'00.8%22N+1%C2%B056'45.5%22W/@51.5169234,-1.9475065,654m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d51.51689!4d-1.945981
@@bavariantrawler I have learned quite a bit about British geography, as well as history, by watching this series.
I'm glad that as the series progressed you can see not only how Time Team itself, but the archaeological world in general changed its attitude about scheduling sites. Though I do believe sites should be scheduled, the attitude that was prevalent when this series started, namely that sites should if at all possible be conserved for some future archaeologist with even better technology, was slowly modified and made more reasonable. While it's true that future archaeologists may indeed have better technology than we do presently, but to refuse to take the opportunity to learn what we can now on any part of the site is a risk. Sites are always at risk of destruction.
Love this program, its attitude, and the individuals chosen to serve as "cast"!
My take on the dynamics of scheduling as presented in the program (showing concretely how archaeological law affects the individual) is that there likely only so much money, always limited, to investigate and develop a site in England. Of course, the landowner must be compensated. But I suspect that a farmer often does not want the intrusion of the archaeological authorities. I think that explains the tension in the scene on the part of yeoman, farmer Barnes (currently at ~12:30) meeting with the Oxford expert, Henig. You can almost see him (Barnes) thinking to himself that he's now lost the freedom to use his land in the way he wants.
I'm not taking one side or the other -- although personally I prefer the preservation of sites over inconvenience to any one individual. This program could be entitled "Archaeological Bureaucrat Meets Yeoman Farmer."
Again, whatever the name of the Time Team program, its substance is quite appealing, for it ultimately celebrates the people of England by honoring their marvelous history (be it Paleolithic or Saxon or Roman). Live on Time Team! Thank you for posting.
@@abogadojon I'm not against scheduling as such, more about how it was practiced archaeologically sometimes. For a period there was this constant feeling that sites should almost be preserved intact for some mythical future archaeologist with better technology to dig them. The only problem is that sites are not only lost despite scheduling, but sometimes are not what we think and the only way we really know is to dig. Moreover, some of that I think was reaction to realizing just how much our improvement in technology in recent decades increased what we were learning from sites. Archaeologists became all too self-aware, and in light of the early history of archaeology (a lot of lost knowledge due to their ideas then) that is still a legacy now, I think what happened became a reaction to the past. We need to more about what we can currently learn, and leave enough of any site intact so that it can also be dug later as technology and knowledge improves. That way we know what we are scheduling far more precisely, and will have better questions of any site on return. I think that TT actually helped to prove this point over the years.
@@a.westenholz4032 I agree. A future landowner could unknowingly or deliberately use "deep ploughing" and wreck the place before anyone from EH knows about it. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened. There was a scheduled building in Sydney that a developer couldn't bulldoze for a new development. So he did anyway. He was fined but still made a bucket of money on the development.
So, it actually took 5 years after this program to schedule the site. It remains pretty much a mystery to this day..
thats all thanks 2 karenzathetwat
That kiddo over Carenza's shoulder at 5:42 has a job and he is taking it seriously. It is important to monitor the TV crew from one's pedal car.
Thank you.
I so want to spend a month in England. I would miss the US's southwest skies in NM. Yum! Thanks TT!
funny, they visited your neck of the woods in their US edition
Good stuff. It would be Interesting to know if more work was ever done on the site
In 2016 a family discovered one of the best preserved Roman Villas in England when they commissioned some work be done on their barn. You can find stories about just by searching, "Tockenham, Roman Villa".
Edit: For reference, this episode of Time Team was recorded in 1995.
Episode 7 (Season 2, episode 3) The Lost Villa, Aired: January 22, 1995
That professor has a serious hair style... he’d fit right in at Hogwarts.
Tony once called him prof. Dumbledoor.😀
There was something more genteel with the early seasons. More archaeological and less televisual, almost a lost past in itself.
ironic as Corenza was arguing just that with trying to wait for national permission but the others were trying to make it more interesting and plough through the weekend(literally)
Wow, looking at those computers is bringing me back!
45:30 TEMPUS GREX was what I think they settled on in one of the later episodes.
Those video toaster transitions really bring me back :D
That child has the poshest pedal car ever
Just came here to comment this. XD
just sitting back and watching the strangers talk animatedly about something boring 🤣
Can anyone comment on what follow-up archeology happened after this show, as it seems it was very significant to do so at the time. And where one might find information on the results?
Cadenza has a lot of guts to stand up for what is right and not just for the show.
Well, yes and no. I'm an archaeologist and while less is more in this case, you can't claim a site is of national significance without doing a Phase 1 assessment. Even just doing geo work isn't good enough; here in the US, we'd do shovel testing on transects and then, if warranted after artifact analysis, test pits would be put in in places where they would produce the best results. From there, re-assessments would be made. It's a bit different in the UK since on a site like this, they wouldn't shovel test - and on most sites that they think have been disturbed by farming, they'd drop in larger treanches right away, using the geo information as a guide. So, Carenza is both right and wrong in this case.
Carenza is a badass in all walks of life.
@@MaritimeHeritageMN
Since she was actually the *EH* representative I think she was more right than wrong. *EH* restrictions aren't as severe now as they were then and *TT* was still seen as _frivolous_. It was difficult for her and it shows. I think she did a good job under the circumstances.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 well considering her boss from EH seemed annoyed that all she was called in on was the geophys, I will go with BO, assumed to be truthful as an expert in field, in that she was being premature and over reacting. Amanda even basicly laid out that something along what BO had mentioned should have been already done. It was more a case of Carenza panicicing that her career might be ruined by some silly little television program. All the archeologists on site were very well known in field, quite experienced and had worked on major EH sites. They know the rules as well or better then Carenza which is why they were all ripping their hair out when she was throwing her weight around. They knew full well what procedure normally was and knew geophys wasn't enough to go off of.
@@bottomlands She is the fat lady who sings at the end of a piece of music to show it's over.
Love Tony’s “Harry Potter” look.
I would love to think that Time Team mosaic was installed right inside Tony’s front door.
05:21 Carenza being rather excited
I love this show but I love Robin Bush the Best He is so intellectual.
nice .....classics
OMG....TONY has hair, brown and long. How old is this?!?!
1994!? I didn’t know this show was that old. Holy shit!
I swear!!!the chap from Oxford?Martin..looks to the T, John Pertwees twin academic brother!!🤣🤦♂️✌️🥃
Does anyone know how to find whatever became of this archaeological site? I’d love to know more.
Not a sculpture, it's a relief.
true and false. it’s true that it’s a relief, it’s false that it’s not a sculpture. a relief is actually a form of sculpture, there’s multiple different kind of sculpture styles. they’re correct in calling it a sculpture
Is this the introduction of Stewart Ainsworth from the Royal Commission?
Love this show! But I have a couple of complications. First is the good archeology?
Yes, it's good archæology. These are mostly either rescue digs or evaluation digs and are fully recorded in minute detail for future archæologists and future excavations.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 evaluation digs have different standards than a full dig...
@@Arthagnou
I know.
Please add proper captions, thank you!
WOW, some of the camerawork was dodgy on these really episodes !😕
This episode is from 25 years ago 😳
Site was scheduled after this show
Time team I have watched everyone of your shows when r u making more
If you care at all at this point, the last episode aired in 2014. However, they have a patreon set up and will be starting digs with a new team (and probably some old faces) in the near future.
Now!
I like to try and identify Phil's army surplus jackets but this one has me at a loss. 41:40 Can anyone identify it?
Looks like a US Army M-65 Field Jacket.
I love how different people pick up on completely different things in these shows. I've seen every episode many times and never noticed Phil's jackets, but I will from now on!
@Zack Stewart Looks like a Belgian M88 to me
@@TimHornerWOP In some episodes he's wearing Netherlands Army surplus, by the flag on the upper sleeve.
Jolly good
Was here September 2020
33:49 Look at Tony! Ha!
He kinda looks like gollum with glasses and hair in this one.....
What did the Romans use for glue?
5:43 kid with snazzy car 🚙
A lot of people complaining about the red tape aren't taking the ideas behind modern archeology into account. When you excavate a site, you destroy it. Once it has been dug it can't be dug again. When a site is discovered now they attempt to do as little possible damage to it. To preserve it for posterity but also because we recognize that techniques will improve in the future. So much information that could easily be found out today has been permanently lost by earlier, clumsier excavations. Much of it, even into the 20th century, was little more than treasure hunting.
The bits and pieces they used to discard back then are incredibly valuable to science. Even the soil around an object can give us information. That's all been learned in the past 70 years or so. How much more will we be able to do later? By preserving these sites we preserve the information they contain to be discovered at a later date. Pompeii has been under excavations for hundreds of years and still has a lot more sites to dig but we don't. Not all at once and only when a really good hypothesis exists that necessitates reopening a site.
I would be cool to dig it all up and see all the walls but we'd loose so much in doing so all at once. I hope people reading this understand the processes and ideas a bit better.
I wonder if they ever found out what it was.
OMG Tony has Hair !!
Most of the older guys have far too much hair - they badly needed a barber with a mower to come in and civilise this lot!
Is that young boy riding a Roman chariot in the background ?
That BIG 90’s HAIR! Good Lord!
That is not a flattering picture of Gollum on the thumbnail.
Did they ever find out what the place was later? I mean did they do any more finding out after time team left?
There's been peoples living in the UK for so very a long time going back for so long that I think that most anywhere one would digg that your going to find sighs of past history from all times past as there a has been mean meany changes over time. As people moved for the pasted to the way side and newer and newer stuff being built and the old just faded away. What is now field may town village or city and what was once town village or city may now be field it just its all changed in time
In what year were the first episodes of this series made? And this episode?
Martin Henig reminds me of Jon Pertwee ( Yo Doctor Who ) !
Dot matrix printer!
Great find! But from the farmers point of view, he lost his field. Wonder if he regretted letting them on his field?
Why do you think he lost his field? Be specific.
@@Invictus13666 the use of his field. Scheduled, no more plowing. Sorry, should have been more specific. 😊
@@justgonnagetbetter1037 and what makes you think he’ll lose the use of his field? Many scheduled areas are farm fields.
@@Invictus13666 that was brought up in episode, the damage from plowing. Surely plowing across scheduled land is frowned upon.
@@justgonnagetbetter1037 there’s a huge difference in how plowing was done in years past and how it’s done now. So no-it isn’t.
If it's scheduled, how does it affect the farmer? Is he compensated for his loss of income due to a smaller field?
What makes you think he loses his field? Be specific.
he can’t dig or build on the site without approval from a national authority not a local one, he can’t allow anyone to forage for artifacts without permission, he might have to get approval for the sale of the property…the one thing he can do is still farm on the site as it’s buried deep enough under where he’s ploughing to not fully disturb the site
Phil was so quiet in this early episode.
45:37 - my guess would be Turma Tempore.
Caught a glimpse of a little boy in a very nice little car. Just behind Carenza (first appearance)
12:43 mick mad hair professor et al rip
And Tony had long hair and glasses, all good
Tonys hair!
...During the reign of Kings in Korea....middle class heated their homes the same way....
in Japan they still do...
It's called ondol, and it's still a part of many Korean homes to this day.
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 You are wrong. Gugeul or ondol system does not exist in Japan as a general heating system - only the Japanese who had experienced it in Korea and China would have built it special. Traditionally Japanese homes were not heated, except for the hearth in the central space. Japanese who live in snowy regions or Hokkaido used charcoal braziers for various spaces and a cotton padded hanten (winter house coat) during the cold season. The main obstacle to the use of heated clay floors in Japan is the use of wood and tatami (reed straw) matting as traditional flooring materials. Japan is situated on a very volcanic groups of islands largely stretching in the North South direction and other unique natural features makes the climate milder and warmer than the continental China and peninsular Korea.
@@Korwinexile it is semi-traditional... that is it is a system quite commonly used in houses well pre-war, but not in the classical or Edo periods.
most traditional heating devices are portable braziers carried on oneself, the heath (with the fish) being primarily largely used for cooking, though an oil containing pan may be used in central mountainous areas such as Tochigi, Yamanashi or Nagano.
the heating system uses hot air goes underneath thick beams of dark cedar often found in public areas of the house & rarely covered with Tatami
So what did it turn out to be?
ford transit 2.4D been off the road since 1996