I had the exact same issue with my ‘15 Trailhawk. Took it to the dealer 3 times and they had no clue and continually told me my battery tested fine. Decided to try something different. I went to Batteries & Bulbs and purchased a premium AGM premium battery. It was certainly pricey but came with a great warranty. Best of all it solved the Stop/Start problem.
You guys really need to add an option to have ESS disabled by default, it's so annoying- bad driver experience, excessive wear and tear on the engine and ignition, turns the AC off when not on auto mode, most Jeep owners don't care about fuel savings this is not a Prius, if you look everywhere on the Internet you'll find nothing but negatives about ESS, it really doesn't save that much fuel either, not enough to outweigh the extra wear and tear. I'd like to have control over when my engine is on/off. Also when you stop to park or reverse it is DANGEROUS to have the engine off. It's really a liability, can't believe Jeep/Chrysler allowed this. I don't want to press a button to disable every time I start my car. It's ridiculous. Totally ruins the whole vehicle. Just give us the option, it can't be too hard of a thing to do.
You life is pretty sad if this feature ruins the vehicle for you....you must be American....only Americans would find pushing a button ridiculous and something that ruins the whole vehicle...
And your life must be one steamy pile of shit if you're trolling on TH-cam about this. Damn straight I'm American, we care about details unlike wherever sad place it is you crawled out from. Did you know Jeep's are American vehicles, numb nuts? GTFO
In theory its a great system, hoever I totally agree - the long term issues of wear - it also causes massive tailbacks as its usually morons not paying attention at the traffic lights!
Thomas Rock thanks for the tip, but honestly I just don't care enough anymore. I'm eagerly waiting for my 3 year lease to expire, this car sucks driving around the city. The transmission is clunkier than a Model T.
I absolutely hate hate HATE this feature on my 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it almost caused me to get into an accident when I needed my pickup to kick in when pulling out into a traffic lane. It's the worst!!!
I own a 2015 Jeep Trailhawk (has a single battery) that came with an ESS system that has never properly functioned. Continually gave a dash error message that "System Not Functional, Battery Charging." After many, many trips to the dealer who could not fix the ESS issues and continually told me the stock battery was in perfect working order, I read on a Jeep Forum that another Jeep owner solved the ESS problem by switching to the X2Power Premium AGM BCI Group 27F Car and Truck Battery . I tried it and IT SOLVED THE PROBLEM!! ESS system works perfectly. Warning: When the X2 27F was first install it made no difference in the functionality of the ESS system but after driving it for 50-100 miles and giving the computer system a chance to adapt to the X2 I've never had another problem with the ESS system. Highly recommend is battery to any Jeep owner with the ESS system though it is pricey.
I have a 17 GC Trailhawk and have recently noticed that stop/start is not working properly. It doesn’t say there is a direct issue but it says “Not ready Battery charging”. So now I’m wondering if my battery is the issue or if there is something else going on. Other than that my car functions normally with no other issues or anything. I would contact the dealer but I recently had to take my car to the dealer to repair a cracked emissions hose and had to leave my car with them for a week. I don’t really want to have to leave my car with them again. I kinda want to try replacing the battery with the one you mentioned to see if that works but from what I’ve read by car also has a secondary battery just for the stop/start purpose.
This feature is going to cause accidents, lots of them. You come to a stop sign, see an opening to enter the flow of traffic, and there is a delay. You are waiting to make a left turn, you see a gap in traffic, and hit the gas, and there is a delay. I hope the juries are smart enough to award huge damages to the injured, and if the feature can't be disabled permanently, I want a new car.
You are overreacting. The few milliseconds it takes to turn the engine back on are not going to cause an accident. You are making it sound like it takes a few seconds. It's not like that at all. It's not like a turbo engine where it takes a couple seconds to get response. Let's just say I'd rather have the Grand Cherokee V6 with start-stop than ANY car with a turbo! Now that is an accident waiting to happen.
@@msrednic Obviously you do not own one of these. I have had a couple close calls myself with my 2016 Jeep Cherokee. Vehicle turns off, you give it the gas when a traffic opportunity presents itself, the system then takes a bit to wake up --then it sometimes hunts for gear and then moves forward. One time it took a good second, and I decided, oh I'm not going to make it now and went to hit the breaks before it moved --and just as I was hitting the breaks it lurched out into the intersection. I almost got hit! I try to turn if off before I leave the driveway, but often I forget.
Having just bought a 2017 Grand Cherokee I'm concerned about the implications of this system. I got through any number of brake disks in my last Jeep - I was told it was down to my habit of holding the break at a junction - rather than putting the car in park. The technician told me the brake disks got extremely hot and applying constant pressure when stopped - rather than releasing - was warping the disks. I'm not a technicians so don't know if this is true - but having stopped holding the car on the foot brake at junctions - the lives of my disks has been extended. I'm confident that the extra fuel I may be using not stop/starting is more than compensated by the need to regularly fit new disks.
Ill stick with a plan ole basic laredo, all i need is a 8.4 screen, 4wd, and a sunroof. Dont want ess, remote trunk, lane assist, adaptive cc, air suspension, auto wipers, back up cams, etc all that super extra stuff is just rolling the dice. Less stuff that can go wrong, less money in maintenance and repairs. Some of these options are way over the top imo
Sounds like a wonderful way to wear put your engine..that is the best way to wear it out! Hate this feature..I always shut it off as soon as I start my car!!
I have a brand new JEEP Latitude that was already serviced with new parts! Ouch. But the reason for my comment is that the Start/Stop system frequently turns off. It does not matter if A/C is on or not. The frequency of the problem is high (i would like to save gas if it works) I brought it back for servicing. The service dept. manager said he could not replicate the problem and that there was no error message. The details of my dealing with the manager are many but suffice it to say this system does not seem to be functioning -- too much Not Ready messages and the vehicle starts up.It usually says cabin is being cooled or heated too many times deactivating the start/stop feature.
We are sorry to hear that you are having concerns with your Jeep Start/Stop system. For further assistance and direction, please call Jeep Customer Care at 877-426-5337.
I hate it so much it makes me consider trading in my vehicle for something like a Land Rover or almost anything that doesnt have that super annoying feature. I feel it was a mistake to buy this vehicle due to this feature. I can't believe it was focus group tested.
سلام عليكم اذا ممكن عندي جيب كراند شيروكي سنة الصنع 2015. في الشاشة الوسطية شاشة الراديو ومكيف الهواء في اعلى الشاشة يوجد ساعة رقمية الساعة اختفت عن الانظار كيف لي ان ارجع الساعة الى مكانه Peace be upon you If I could have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee made. In the center screen, the radio screen and the air conditioner at the top of the screen there is a digital clock. The clock has disappeared from view, how can I return the watch to its place
Other manufacturers respect the Auto Start-Stop Off button press between starts. Forcefully turning it back on on every start is an unnecessary nuisance
Unplug the small single wire harness that attaches to the positive battery terminal under the passenger seat, and ESS is disabled. If you unplug the hood sensor, remote start does not work. AND it will NOT void your warranty! Use my method
See the FAQ page on the SmartStopStart site here: www.smartstopstart.com/faq.html . There is a chart that compares the various override hacks on the Internet with the SmartStopStart device.
Nice intel and product, but I can deal with a light on my dash instead of $129 lol. Only other downside I see of my method is no "Sport mode memory"... I'll save the $129 lol. I hardly have in sport mode anyway lol. thanks CAR-Michael
@@johnviera3884 Thank you for the info, i replace the main battery and it's working fine now, where is that auxillary battery located in the 2017 Jeep Cherokee sport I'm going to have it checked also , if you don't mind letting me know please
@@Mase-sv7cf I’m referring to the GRAND CHEROKEE. I’m not sure if the Cherokee has an auxiliary battery. it should be right next to the main battery. It’s a smaller black plastic battery. Under the passenger seat. Move the passenger seat all the way forward and pop up that plastic cover under the seat.
I have a 2015 v6, it's not a bad suv, just need more torque and power.Stability is not the best.Just I make a big mistake trade my old 2008 Acura MDX.Price drop the first year $15,000 that means I paid $49,000 and 1 1/2 and 20,000 miles my jeep value is $34,000. Want to trade for a pick up truck Ram Laramie cummins engine.
This late summer I purchased a Grand Cherokee and was told that the system could be turned off, but the salesman failed to mention that it supposedly could not be turned off permanently. That is until I watched multiple videos on how to turn it off permanently. That system was the stupidest system every designed because they are trying to make your automobile fool-proof for dummkopfs who shouldn't be driving anyway. To add all that electronics that were mentioned adds a lot of cost to the vehicle. If you want to turn it off permanently watch this video; th-cam.com/video/tBJ_J-o-drc/w-d-xo.html . There a multiple videos on how this is done if you have an earlier model or a different setup.
Hey Chrysler Fiat clowns, who told you I wanted this in my vehicle, and why is it forced upon us? You better come up with a way to make this voluntary, meaning you push the button if you want to activate this stupidity. If this is still the way it is in three years this will be my last Jeep
Absolutely the WORSE feature ever added to ANY vehicle ....... WHAT were they thinking ????? The MOST engine wear is done upon "start up", (when the oil has dropped down to the oil pan and is NOT up in the moving parts of the engine), hence "FRICTION" is happening !!!! NOT to mention the "constant strain on the starter mortor in these vehicles ..... It's just "Moronic" to say the least ......
you are stupid. sorry but you are. the oil hasnt gone anywhere in the few seconds its shut off for. and basically 95% of cars have it now so you better get used to it.
I had the exact same issue with my ‘15 Trailhawk. Took it to the dealer 3 times and they had no clue and continually told me my battery tested fine. Decided to try something different. I went to Batteries & Bulbs and purchased a premium AGM premium battery. It was certainly pricey but came with a great warranty. Best of all it solved the Stop/Start problem.
You guys really need to add an option to have ESS disabled by default, it's so annoying- bad driver experience, excessive wear and tear on the engine and ignition, turns the AC off when not on auto mode, most Jeep owners don't care about fuel savings this is not a Prius, if you look everywhere on the Internet you'll find nothing but negatives about ESS, it really doesn't save that much fuel either, not enough to outweigh the extra wear and tear. I'd like to have control over when my engine is on/off. Also when you stop to park or reverse it is DANGEROUS to have the engine off. It's really a liability, can't believe Jeep/Chrysler allowed this. I don't want to press a button to disable every time I start my car. It's ridiculous. Totally ruins the whole vehicle. Just give us the option, it can't be too hard of a thing to do.
You life is pretty sad if this feature ruins the vehicle for you....you must be American....only Americans would find pushing a button ridiculous and something that ruins the whole vehicle...
And your life must be one steamy pile of shit if you're trolling on TH-cam about this. Damn straight I'm American, we care about details unlike wherever sad place it is you crawled out from. Did you know Jeep's are American vehicles, numb nuts? GTFO
In theory its a great system, hoever I totally agree - the long term issues of wear - it also causes massive tailbacks as its usually morons not paying attention at the traffic lights!
Thomas Rock thanks for the tip, but honestly I just don't care enough anymore. I'm eagerly waiting for my 3 year lease to expire, this car sucks driving around the city. The transmission is clunkier than a Model T.
regulations. the feature needs to be default on to count for EPA credits
I absolutely hate hate HATE this feature on my 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it almost caused me to get into an accident when I needed my pickup to kick in when pulling out into a traffic lane. It's the worst!!!
I own a 2015 Jeep Trailhawk (has a single battery) that came with an ESS system that has never properly functioned. Continually gave a dash error message that "System Not Functional, Battery Charging." After many, many trips to the dealer who could not fix the ESS issues and continually told me the stock battery was in perfect working order, I read on a Jeep Forum that another Jeep owner solved the ESS problem by switching to the X2Power Premium AGM BCI Group 27F Car and Truck Battery . I tried it and IT SOLVED THE PROBLEM!! ESS system works perfectly.
Warning: When the X2 27F was first install it made no difference in the functionality of the ESS system but after driving it for 50-100 miles and giving the computer system a chance to adapt to the X2 I've never had another problem with the ESS system.
Highly recommend is battery to any Jeep owner with the ESS system though it is pricey.
I have a 17 GC Trailhawk and have recently noticed that stop/start is not working properly. It doesn’t say there is a direct issue but it says “Not ready Battery charging”. So now I’m wondering if my battery is the issue or if there is something else going on. Other than that my car functions normally with no other issues or anything. I would contact the dealer but I recently had to take my car to the dealer to repair a cracked emissions hose and had to leave my car with them for a week. I don’t really want to have to leave my car with them again. I kinda want to try replacing the battery with the one you mentioned to see if that works but from what I’ve read by car also has a secondary battery just for the stop/start purpose.
I just wish i could disable this forever, this is probably one of the reason why multi air engines on renegade and compass gets messed up.
You can , just unplug the battery sensor
How hard is it to hit the button?
This feature is going to cause accidents, lots of them. You come to a stop sign, see an opening to enter the flow of traffic, and there is a delay. You are waiting to make a left turn, you see a gap in traffic, and hit the gas, and there is a delay. I hope the juries are smart enough to award huge damages to the injured, and if the feature can't be disabled permanently, I want a new car.
You are overreacting. The few milliseconds it takes to turn the engine back on are not going to cause an accident. You are making it sound like it takes a few seconds. It's not like that at all. It's not like a turbo engine where it takes a couple seconds to get response. Let's just say I'd rather have the Grand Cherokee V6 with start-stop than ANY car with a turbo! Now that is an accident waiting to happen.
@@msrednic Wrong! It's dangerous.
@@msrednic it’s not milliseconds. It like 1.5 seconds. That’s enough to cause a problem
@@msrednic Obviously you do not own one of these. I have had a couple close calls myself with my 2016 Jeep Cherokee. Vehicle turns off, you give it the gas when a traffic opportunity presents itself, the system then takes a bit to wake up --then it sometimes hunts for gear and then moves forward. One time it took a good second, and I decided, oh I'm not going to make it now and went to hit the breaks before it moved --and just as I was hitting the breaks it lurched out into the intersection. I almost got hit! I try to turn if off before I leave the driveway, but often I forget.
@@pslgreg wrong, it isnt. you moron
Having just bought a 2017 Grand Cherokee I'm concerned about the implications of this system.
I got through any number of brake disks in my last Jeep - I was told it was down to my habit of holding the break at a junction - rather than putting the car in park.
The technician told me the brake disks got extremely hot and applying constant pressure when stopped - rather than releasing - was warping the disks.
I'm not a technicians so don't know if this is true - but having stopped holding the car on the foot brake at junctions - the lives of my disks has been extended.
I'm confident that the extra fuel I may be using not stop/starting is more than compensated by the need to regularly fit new disks.
Ill stick with a plan ole basic laredo, all i need is a 8.4 screen, 4wd, and a sunroof.
Dont want ess, remote trunk, lane assist, adaptive cc, air suspension, auto wipers, back up cams, etc all that super extra stuff is just rolling the dice. Less stuff that can go wrong, less money in maintenance and repairs. Some of these options are way over the top imo
I have a 2015 limited. Mine doesn't do this. I am glad.
I have the same as you. my A¡ came up just today when I am not using the save Energy option. what I can do, just turning off the button¿
Sounds like a wonderful way to wear put your engine..that is the best way to wear it out! Hate this feature..I always shut it off as soon as I start my car!!
You can thank the tree huggers in California for this BS.
I have a brand new JEEP Latitude that was already serviced with new parts! Ouch. But the reason for my comment is that the Start/Stop system frequently turns off. It does not matter if A/C is on or not. The frequency of the problem is high (i would like to save gas if it works) I brought it back for servicing. The service dept. manager said he could not replicate the problem and that there was no error message. The details of my dealing with the manager are many but suffice it to say this system does not seem to be functioning -- too much Not Ready messages and the vehicle starts up.It usually says cabin is being cooled or heated too many times deactivating the start/stop feature.
We are sorry to hear that you are having concerns with your Jeep Start/Stop system. For further assistance and direction, please call Jeep Customer Care at 877-426-5337.
This part eventually failed. It affected several systems in the Jeep. It had to be replaced. It was faulty from day one.
You actually want it to work? Lol
I hate it so much it makes me consider trading in my vehicle for something like a Land Rover or almost anything that doesnt have that super annoying feature. I feel it was a mistake to buy this vehicle due to this feature. I can't believe it was focus group tested.
I have gotten used to it, sort of. I have more or less come to accept it. It is still lame, though.
Me too!
I want to get the Jeep Cherokee tellhark 4 cylinder
سلام عليكم
اذا ممكن عندي جيب كراند شيروكي سنة الصنع 2015. في الشاشة الوسطية شاشة الراديو ومكيف الهواء في اعلى الشاشة يوجد ساعة رقمية الساعة اختفت عن الانظار كيف لي ان ارجع الساعة الى مكانه
Peace be upon you
If I could have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee made. In the center screen, the radio screen and the air conditioner at the top of the screen there is a digital clock. The clock has disappeared from view, how can I return the watch to its place
Off permanently button please. Who did this customer satisfaction testing? FCA error
Other manufacturers respect the Auto Start-Stop Off button press between starts. Forcefully turning it back on on every start is an unnecessary nuisance
most dont actually.
Volume is MIA?
How do you change your odometer from km to mph on a jeep Cherokee trailhawk.
The dash board tells you how. You hit the center "ok" button on the steering wheel, I think.
Is it possible disable completly the stop/start system so it stays off all the time?
If you unplug the front hood sensor it will keep the system off all the time. There is no configurable option to turn it off permanently.
Where is the front hood sensor located? Will unplugging it give you an indication that your hood is open all the time? That would be more annoying.
Unplug the small single wire harness that attaches to the positive battery terminal under the passenger seat, and ESS is disabled. If you unplug the hood sensor, remote start does not work. AND it will NOT void your warranty! Use my method
See the FAQ page on the SmartStopStart site here: www.smartstopstart.com/faq.html . There is a chart that compares the various override hacks on the Internet with the SmartStopStart device.
Nice intel and product, but I can deal with a light on my dash instead of $129 lol. Only other downside I see of my method is no "Sport mode memory"... I'll save the $129 lol. I hardly have in sport mode anyway lol. thanks CAR-Michael
My Jeep Cherokee trailhark 4 cylinder it will have push button
I hate this feature so bad , I am at 50 miles on my New Cherokee and it's driving me Crazy!!!!!
What's the big deal? Just leave it alone. You'll get used to it. Why do you need your engine running at a stop light anyway?
My auto star-stop has not worked for months now on my 2018 JGC High altitude. Keep saying battery is charging. Any help would be appreciated.
We kindly recommend following up with your local Jeep dealer for further support with this inquiry as they are in the best position to assist!
Does the stop/start system on a 2017 cherokee run on a separate battery?
No. It has an auxiliary battery just in case that’s just used for starting when the main battery goes dead
@@johnviera3884 Thank you for the info, i replace the main battery and it's working fine now, where is that auxillary battery located in the 2017 Jeep Cherokee sport I'm going to have it checked also , if you don't mind letting me know please
@@Mase-sv7cf I’m referring to the GRAND CHEROKEE. I’m not sure if the Cherokee has an auxiliary battery. it should be right next to the main battery. It’s a smaller black plastic battery. Under the passenger seat. Move the passenger seat all the way forward and pop up that plastic cover under the seat.
@@johnviera3884 I see , I don't see anything next to the battery , must not have one, thanks for your help 👍🏻
@@Mase-sv7cf Google “FCA VIN build list”
Put in your VIN number. Look through for Battery 130 amp auxiliary
I have a 2015 v6, it's not a bad suv, just need more torque and power.Stability is not the best.Just I make a big mistake trade my old 2008 Acura MDX.Price drop the first year $15,000 that means I paid $49,000 and 1 1/2 and 20,000 miles my jeep value is $34,000. Want to trade for a pick up truck Ram Laramie cummins engine.
.2 second delay when launching off the line.
a lot of malfunctions
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Never liked this feature on my 2016
Worst feature I have ever had to go through in a car
Subtitle en spanish please
This late summer I purchased a Grand Cherokee and was told that the system could be turned off, but the salesman failed to mention that it supposedly could not be turned off permanently. That is until I watched multiple videos on how to turn it off permanently. That system was the stupidest system every designed because they are trying to make your automobile fool-proof for dummkopfs who shouldn't be driving anyway.
To add all that electronics that were mentioned adds a lot of cost to the vehicle. If you want to turn it off permanently watch this video; th-cam.com/video/tBJ_J-o-drc/w-d-xo.html . There a multiple videos on how this is done if you have an earlier model or a different setup.
Hey Chrysler Fiat clowns, who told you I wanted this in my vehicle, and why is it forced upon us? You better come up with a way to make this voluntary, meaning you push the button if you want to activate this stupidity. If this is still the way it is in three years this will be my last Jeep
This is the most annoying feature and I turn it off every time I start my vehicle!!! Also it’s just stupid
Aggravating and totally unnecessary
Absolutely the WORSE feature ever added to ANY vehicle ....... WHAT were they thinking ?????
The MOST engine wear is done upon "start up", (when the oil has dropped down to the oil pan and is NOT up in the moving parts of the engine), hence "FRICTION" is happening !!!! NOT to mention the "constant strain on the starter mortor in these vehicles ..... It's just "Moronic" to say the least ......
you are stupid. sorry but you are. the oil hasnt gone anywhere in the few seconds its shut off for. and basically 95% of cars have it now so you better get used to it.
Very dumb system
I have grand cherokee laredo 2015 in saudi arabi Is bad car And bad car dealership
I don't like it
I want to get the Jeep Cherokee trailhawk 4 cylinder