02:05 Range 20 - 85 Hz: thumping, low rumble 03:35 Range 85 - 200 Hz: base frequencies 05:25 Range 200 - 400 Hz: muddy range 07:41 Range 500 - 900 Hz: honkyness 10:15 Range 1 - 2 kHz: telephone sound, human whistle 14:15 Range 2 - 4 kHz: scissors cutting paper, small bird whistle 18:06 Range 4 - 8 kHz: presence, beat-boxing, ts, keyboard click, hand clap 20:06 Range 8 - 20 kHz: sizzly, sparkly, bright, cicadas from Evangelion 21:21 Range 16 - 20 kHz: super airy extra little bit on top
its reminiscent of what is heard in the womb! your brain associates these low frequencies with comfort and security; theres a reason they say bass is the heart of every composition
one curse of mixer ear for me has been becoming hyper sensitive to the sounds of the world around me. on one hand i've become an amazing eavesdropper, on the other hand i'll never be able to tune out the sub-bass frequencies of my neighbor's speaker (which my friends always tell me they cant hear when they're over) great video, super informative and a subject that should be talked about more. im a video editor who's dabbled in music so audio balancing is my strong suit and i always appreciate learning more
Man, this is so relatable, haha! I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a blessing at times and others a curse 😂 Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it 🙏
It’s the same with music theory. You analyse the composition of every song you hear, and realise that 90% of current music is very rudimentary and relies on fancy production rather than any accomplished musical ideas, which can take a lot of the fun out of just enjoying music
I can see what you mean, I guess it's all how you look at it really. I agree that it's harder to appreciate the composition side of a lot of modern music for this reason. So with those type of songs, I'll look for genius coming through in the production rather than the chord structure or musical ideas. Thanks so much for watching!
To me sort of the opposite has happened. Yeah some songs are really boring but if you listen to enough pop music you'll realize it's all the same. But when it comes to anything outside of pop music, learning music theory has helped me appreciate it much more. For example indian music has this unique style of singing that always sounded like random warbling and off-key microtones. But then I learned about the unique types of notes their music uses and I can appreciate it much more, and maybe take some of those ideas and use it in my own music.
@@Zadamanim yes it’s mostly applicable to pop and rock though it wasn’t always like that. The music when I was growing up was often quite innovative. Rick Beato made a really good video about this called “the four chords which killed pop music”
@@audioedges I think there is a lot of great electronic music which doesn’t really require any kind of musical theory or composition, eg Techno but getting the production just right is absolutely essential
I was practicing this technique just the other day for a few weeks and I gave it a break and all of a sudden my ears started to pickup these frequency ranges. It does work. I'll be more consistent with my practice as of now. Thank you for this video... 👊🏾
Your channel is so underrated. I am almost finished with this video and took notes on my iPad while listening along with my beyerdynamics. All associations were so natural and immediately clicked for me. I hope that this helps me with my professional career and thank you so much for putting this out. I always loved this channel but always hoped for longer videos. Thank you so much!!!
Wow, thanks Elijah! I really appreciate that. So glad you're finding the video helpful. Writing it down and studying the video just goes to show how successful you'll be at this. I remember doing exactly the same when I was first learning this sort of thing! I even printed it out and had a frequency association chart taped on the wall in my college bedroom, haha. Lots more on the way and glad you're here for it! :)
My Ex wife reminds me of that trumpet tone; that midrange that causes physical head-pain after about 30 minutes of it non stop. 😂 Outstanding content buddy, GREAT work!
The title seemed click bait-y, but I clicked through out of curiosity and was glad I did! The associations you mentioned are so helpful, thank you for making this!
I've always been taught to think of anything around 4khz as the nails against chalkboard frequencies from those recording heavy metal guitars. usually a place you want to surgically tame frequencies around 3db to 6db
gonna have to watch this without so much ambient noise on my end. I heard silence for the first range, the one that I'm supposed to associate with thunder. not "oh, I think maybe I hear something, but I'm not sure." nothing. indistinguishable from muted.
Yeah a phone or smaller speakers can't reproduce those sub frequencies, but if you listen on good headphones or studio monitors they will be audible! Definitely finding a quiet space to listen is a good idea :)
this made me realize that my "range" for whistling is actually incredibly wide, it's just, at the ranges where my whistle breaks i need to switch to a different technique like hissing my tongue or singing 😂 and when my singing breaks i can switch to reverse singing for the ultra bass notes now, I don't do those ranges WELL, but I can technically emit them
Hello brother. The content in this video is some of the most useful info I've ever consumed for production. Really appreciate this! But I'm commenting to say that after I tried to find your video again to sub your channel, I couldn't because you gave the vid a clickbait title instead of anything about "frequency association" etc. I had to search for 10 minutes, even resorting to google searches of stuff I remembered in the video, all to no avail. Eventually I got lucky and it appeared in the "Watch It Again" section of the guest account I initially watched it on. I'm super glad I found you again. So yeah, I get the grind is real for breaking through and you gotta do some marketing but I think you're going pretty heavy on all the "Wait till the end" or "don't miss this next part" or *explains what the video is about and how awesome it's going to be instead of getting straight into it* and I feel you're actually overshadowing the content itself a little bit with all the cheap stuff. Content which in this instance was some of the most useful I've seen! Anyway to cut a long story short, all I'm saying is you're making good shit and as long as the editing is noice the shit will stand on its own. Obviously you gotta do some marketing but in this case your marketing made me impatient for you to get to the good stuff and made it difficult for me to find the video 😅 Just one man's feedback! Gonna say once more how much I learned from your vid and appreciate what you're doing! Edited: typos
Really appreciate your feedback bro. Thanks for the kind words and glad you liked the video. I get what you're saying and I'm working on finding the right balance for this. I try to deliver serious free value in my videos, because these have techniques have been key to what I do in my job, and I think it's important to share it with everyone. Yeah, the dance we face on YT is that without an intriguing title, you may not have found the video to begin with. I originally titled the video with frequency associations, but it got stuck around 100 views. Since repackaging it, around 20K have learned about frequency associations. So part of it is getting viewers to check out the video with an interesting presentation, and then delivering real useful substance inside. I see so many faceless channels with clickbait which then deliver the same mediocre content inside, which is frustrating to see. So the aim here is for anyone who could be reaching for those videos to get really good information here instead. I get that sometimes that type of presentation can be overkill, and I'm realizing lately that my viewers who watch this channel are actually here because they truly want to learn, and at the end of the day, that's all I could ever ask for. Thanks again - one grateful TH-camr right here, appreciating your feedback and working on striking the right balance on this 😊🤘
I use 5 different bass instruments layered in most of my work 3 are low end pads I tweaked plus drums I found that even with cutting the low end with a shelf cut helps a lot but also switching the polarity on your bass and kick works even better. You try not to get noise cancellation when all these low end instruments are competing in the overall mix state. If you add some high end vocals or strings etc you will hear the volume drop out on those if you do not change the polarity on the low end. Then I use volume automation as well plus add some light reverb effects this too will lower the sound in some cases but over time once you start building up more then 30 instruments with side chained effects it all adds up to higher volume issues. I can now listen to my mix and hear right away what needs to be treated or lowered in the mixing session. Just remember as one instrument may sound good in the mix once you start applying more instruments it can increase overall so just keep those mix faders adjusted plus tweak the sends on your channels this helps a lot too. Once you have listened to many mixes it becomes 2nd nature to the trained ear it takes time to acquire this skill but its part of the musical process which I love. If you don't get the sound right in the mix your mastering will only bring out the worst of these mistakes by enhancing those issues hence you have to go back and find the problem. Using reference tracks also helps and I try not to use to much width panning in my work via a plugin alone your better adding 2 channels as to pan left or right to get the same desired effect but with no air sounding quality which some wide plugins do.
I like this approach, great advice! I agree, it's a great skill to have when you can hear right away where to go in your mix to fix problems. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@@audioedgesThank you for your video I found it very well done mate best of luck with your music as well My music channel is Synthworx SWX if you ever want to check it out all the best cheers
Very helpful. I did live sound reinforcement for a number of years, which helped in this regard. But mixing for live and recording are different animals.
What version of Protools are you using? It looks different from 11 that I have. I must be using a very old version. I know I'm dating myself but I learned Protools on version 7. I upgraded from an Mbox to a Control 24 pared with a Protool PC and have been using it until the computer wouldn't recognize the "C" drive. Looks like it's time to upgrade again. Liked the description of the frequency ranges. Unfortunately, my laptop has crappy little speakers in it so I couldn't make out the lower end isolations. I usually associate 20-200 Hz as thunder from different distances. The longer distance being that low rumble to the closer ones being a pop or boom. As I often deal with singers, the middle range is usually divided in vocal ranges; bass ,tenor alto and soprano. From 5k-12k is clarity of consonants and anything above that is sizzle and high overtones. All of us hear the same things. We just have different associations. I am also a musician so my ears have been trained to listen carefully to not only pitch but also to how sound frequencies interact with each other. It's amazing how if you eq each voice slightly differently, it brings out each voice or instrument in its own frequency nitch in the mix. I find this is particularly useful in live mono mixes. Even in a panned stereo mix, it does the same thing. Sorry for rambling but this is my passion so it's hard not to. Liked your video and going check out more of them.
its kinda like tuning carburetor engine by ear. My dad is master at that, he knows what sounds perfect on 2stroke and i just look at the spark plug color after few rips "yeah he was right"
Take any song. Use Fab Filter EQ to jack up the frequency all the way in the tinitus problem range. You'll hear it when it gets there on a sweep. Then notch it out and you can use that EQ setting in front of any song in the future to mitigate the problem frequency.
Would it not be possible to cancel tinnitus out with earphones similar to how air pod pro is made, and dial in these frequencies for Tinnitus victims? Hmm
You explain things so well. I wish more people took the time the way you do. It's funny how you mentioned in the beginning of the video about doing stuff like this as though you had a blindfold on. I'm actually totally blind myself and I love how you describe things so well. What microphone are you using for your audio when you're speaking? How do you make your room so soundproof and not echo at all? You have an amazing voice by the way. I wish I had a voice like yours because my voice is hoarse and weak and raspy and I wish I had a more masculine voice like you.
Thank you so much for this comment. That means a lot! It's an SM7b mic and my room is fully acoustically treated, so it's pretty dead in general when it comes to reflections. I built the room myself and behind the fabric walls are quite a bit of Rockwool. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video from an audio perspective, that's actually the best way this video could be consumed and I'm inspired by your comment! The more we know our frequencies, the more we can enjoy music and sound at a whole new level. I believe you'll find your voice too - it's already there, just waiting to be unleashed. Thanks again and thanks for watching :)
@@audioedges do you sing and write songs? I'm a singer trying to break into the music industry and I would love to collaborate on music with someone. You seem like a great person to collaborate with and I would love to collaborate with you. When you soundproof your room was it pretty expensive or were you able to do it for cheap? What audio interface do you use with your microphone? I have the SM 7DB with the extra gain and the extra switches because the original SM 7B for some reason didn't work very well for me. maybe it was a faulty device or something but I love my DB microphone. Do you use the microphone completely flat or do you apply EQ with the switches on your microphone or do you apply EQ in post processing?
When I listen to my mixes my ears tend to "close" as if I was on a flight, (not that extreme but the effect is similar) and I can't locate where the problem is and why this is happening
I send my email list a ton of free stuff and other opportunities that I don’t share here. My newsletter the other week was a full breakdown of production moves I taught to 25 bands at my one-on-one workshops through Jan-Feb. If it’s not for you, no worries at all. But I share some of my best stuff with my email subs🤘😊
Man I feel like I'm just too dumb to get this. I've watched countless vids on how to eq yourself and just set up a parametric eq via Equalizer APO and AutoEQ master (using attached settings for my headphones specifically). It sounds great because the sound is now 100% neutral but I really love unproportionally strong bass and other than playing with some values on a graphic equalizer while listening to it, I can't manage to do it in a clean way because I just won't understand the absolute basics of this stuff lol. It worked for me before by dragging some sliders up by unholy amounts and it did sound good (not like a dirty bass boost but not quite like the super duper clean rebass either) but every expert in this field would tell me I'm just ruining my sound. I just made use of the sliders that sounded like they were intensifying bass and adding a bit of delay in it. Really, I don't know what kinda video I need to understand how to do this properly.
I can hear those frequency associations in isolation (as you demonstrated in the video), but in the context of a full mix, I cannot seem to pick them out. I can generally pick out individual instruments in a full track, just not individual bands of frequencies.
That's fair and pretty normal, but it absolutely will come with time if you keep paying attention to them! It's nice to be able to develop this skill, which also changes how you listen to and enjoy music. Thanks for watching!
Yeah after about 20 years i can tell it's general location. Like oh that need something around 10k or oh that needs less 80 feels a little boomy. Or Maybe I should notch out 1k it's a little pericing on the snare. Stuff like that. I could never listen to a 10k pitch and be able to say oh that's a 10k pitch at -3 db. some people can but having relative ability is good enough for me.
Nice, I totally get that! A strong relative ability is all you need to be an amazing mixer, the exact frequency name is definitely not as important as instinctively knowing the general area where you need to go to locate it :)
Totally understand. To put a positive spin on it, I think the good news is it's always a good practice to get an outside perspective! So this way it kind of forces you to get an extra ear on things, when others who may have top end intact might skip getting a second opinion and miss something else :)
That's not what I wanted - Luke Prov: th-cam.com/video/rnYKsVElu6o/w-d-xo.html save you a search for anyone interested. the original seems woefully underexposed, barely anyone seems to have seen it
LOL. The point here is actually to try for yourself and find your natural range, so you can create your own association. Though demonstration will still be useful for most, because most of my viewer demographic will have a similar whistle range between 900-2K.
Sugar Sound stole your video dude, report it lol ... actually last time i saw their video, there was a comment saying it was sus similar to this one, an it seems that comment is gone...weird
Thanks for letting me know man, I’m seeing they’ve now stolen a few. Even Magic Mix Glue featuring Greg Wells, which I would think is way too specific to copy but they did it anyway. It sucks to put a ton of work into an original idea and video, to see a carbon copy pop up a few days later trying to slide in front of our algorithm push. It means the world that you guys will comment for accountability and icky that they deleted it. I have nothing against promoting audio education, but I feel like being original is a part of viewer transparency. Appreciate you guys so much 🙏
@@audioedges when I first write, I was joking, then I remembered that comment. Saw the video to see if I was or not getting crazy. Is not the same but seems really similar, so now I'm hesitating to point the finger. Now you tell me this has been done before to you? That sucks man. I think I watched a YT channel of a big company doing the exact info with same schematics of another channel video tutorial, and then a third party did a video pointing that. Those guys are a plague. Let your community know, you did give great info, I hope those people who find it useful also stand up for this
Hey Edges, I’m starting a Song A Week challenge to help artists design their lifestyle and learn music business. I’d love to have you in the challenge, links on my channel.
Not a great start. I may be no "Spring chicken" but when someone plays silence and tells me I feel it, which I don't, then what I feel is that it's not for me.
You're NEVER going to hear OR feel ANY of the bass OR sub-bass range, (i.e. any frequency under about 80 Hz or so), using only your phone or tablet speakers, because they certainly CANNOT physically reproduce ANY of those lower frequencies to begin with, (actually most phone and tablet speakers are totally (100%) limited on the bottom end to only be able to reproduce frequencies of about 200 Hz absolute minimum), and then also, anything below about 20-25 Hz gets MAJORLY reduced in level or even eliminated completely by TH-cam compression and bandwidth limiting itself, but that does NOT mean that it's just "silence", or that those frequencies are not there, and they definitely CAN be heard and/or felt on a really good recording, and when they are played back on a truly full range, high quality audio system with really good speakers, so don't just automatically assume something without knowing the true and complete facts about it!
@@JoeJ-8282 They are still silent to me, and whatever the explanation is, it still isn't useful. Knowing complete facts doesn't come in to it, the comment is still valid.
@@WideCuriosity OK, if you STILL cannot hear any of those lower frequencies below that range, even while listening closely through headphones or while listening on a full range stereo system with good speakers, then maybe you just can't physically hear those frequencies, which I guess then in your specific case, your comment is valid, so it is what it is I guess... This guy's mix in this video doesn't have the greatest low end to begin with either, even on a really good playback system, however I could definitely tell it was there, but it wasn't as strong and powerful as he was viscerally describing, so maybe that was part of your issue with it, which is a fair argument.
Pink noise can be a strategy to help some people to find a balance, but it's not a rule. I prefer the mix with your ears / not your eyes approach. If it sounds good, it's good. :)
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02:05 Range 20 - 85 Hz: thumping, low rumble
03:35 Range 85 - 200 Hz: base frequencies
05:25 Range 200 - 400 Hz: muddy range
07:41 Range 500 - 900 Hz: honkyness
10:15 Range 1 - 2 kHz: telephone sound, human whistle
14:15 Range 2 - 4 kHz: scissors cutting paper, small bird whistle
18:06 Range 4 - 8 kHz: presence, beat-boxing, ts, keyboard click, hand clap
20:06 Range 8 - 20 kHz: sizzly, sparkly, bright, cicadas from Evangelion
21:21 Range 16 - 20 kHz: super airy extra little bit on top
Bless, came back to this video for the fourth time hoping this breakdown was somewhere
@@chiwavv Thanks, was taking some notes for myself, then it appeared to me why not to put them just right here
@@Dmitrii-z1m you a real one
I could sleep isolating the 80-200Hz frequency, it just feel so calm, relaxing.
its reminiscent of what is heard in the womb! your brain associates these low frequencies with comfort and security; theres a reason they say bass is the heart of every composition
@@jakeeeGSTthis is really interesting
one curse of mixer ear for me has been becoming hyper sensitive to the sounds of the world around me. on one hand i've become an amazing eavesdropper, on the other hand i'll never be able to tune out the sub-bass frequencies of my neighbor's speaker (which my friends always tell me they cant hear when they're over)
great video, super informative and a subject that should be talked about more. im a video editor who's dabbled in music so audio balancing is my strong suit and i always appreciate learning more
Man, this is so relatable, haha! I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a blessing at times and others a curse 😂 Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it 🙏
Sorry, I didn't hear what you said, I was busy listening to the tap dripping in the bathroom on the other side of the house
It’s the same with music theory. You analyse the composition of every song you hear, and realise that 90% of current music is very rudimentary and relies on fancy production rather than any accomplished musical ideas, which can take a lot of the fun out of just enjoying music
I hate modern music but this sort of thing was said about rock n roll
I can see what you mean, I guess it's all how you look at it really. I agree that it's harder to appreciate the composition side of a lot of modern music for this reason. So with those type of songs, I'll look for genius coming through in the production rather than the chord structure or musical ideas. Thanks so much for watching!
To me sort of the opposite has happened. Yeah some songs are really boring but if you listen to enough pop music you'll realize it's all the same. But when it comes to anything outside of pop music, learning music theory has helped me appreciate it much more. For example indian music has this unique style of singing that always sounded like random warbling and off-key microtones. But then I learned about the unique types of notes their music uses and I can appreciate it much more, and maybe take some of those ideas and use it in my own music.
@@Zadamanim yes it’s mostly applicable to pop and rock though it wasn’t always like that. The music when I was growing up was often quite innovative. Rick Beato made a really good video about this called “the four chords which killed pop music”
@@audioedges I think there is a lot of great electronic music which doesn’t really require any kind of musical theory or composition, eg Techno but getting the production just right is absolutely essential
'Click bait', I wondered? Naw, you certainly delivered. Very useful!!! Gracias!
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you! :)
I was practicing this technique just the other day for a few weeks and I gave it a break and all of a sudden my ears started to pickup these frequency ranges. It does work. I'll be more consistent with my practice as of now. Thank you for this video... 👊🏾
Thanks so much! Really glad to hear that. Pretty cool when you start picking up on it, it's kind of like seeing through the matrix ;)
@@audioedges You're welcome 👊🏽. Yea, that's the word that best describes it. The matrix! Thanks again!
Your channel is so underrated. I am almost finished with this video and took notes on my iPad while listening along with my beyerdynamics. All associations were so natural and immediately clicked for me. I hope that this helps me with my professional career and thank you so much for putting this out. I always loved this channel but always hoped for longer videos. Thank you so much!!!
You are also an amazing communicator and teacher. I love the way you present stuff.
Wow, thanks Elijah! I really appreciate that. So glad you're finding the video helpful. Writing it down and studying the video just goes to show how successful you'll be at this. I remember doing exactly the same when I was first learning this sort of thing! I even printed it out and had a frequency association chart taped on the wall in my college bedroom, haha. Lots more on the way and glad you're here for it! :)
My Ex wife reminds me of that trumpet tone; that midrange that causes physical head-pain after about 30 minutes of it non stop. 😂 Outstanding content buddy, GREAT work!
Haha thank you Doug!! Glad you enjoyed it! :)
The whistle trick really made sense to me!
The title seemed click bait-y, but I clicked through out of curiosity and was glad I did! The associations you mentioned are so helpful, thank you for making this!
Thank you, so glad to hear that you found it helpful! :)
I've always been taught to think of anything around 4khz as the nails against chalkboard frequencies from those recording heavy metal guitars.
usually a place you want to surgically tame frequencies around 3db to 6db
When I think of all the terms used to describe audio frequencies, none of them are as useful as this great visualization. Thank-you!
Thank you John, I'm glad you like my approach to it! :)
I have watched several of these types of videos, but this one is the best by a mile! Thank you!
Thanks so much! Really appreciate that and glad you found it helpful :)
as someone with 8k subscribers you deserve it way more +9 million more your channel is crazy underrated 😭😭💗
Thank you so much! That means the world 🙏
gonna have to watch this without so much ambient noise on my end. I heard silence for the first range, the one that I'm supposed to associate with thunder. not "oh, I think maybe I hear something, but I'm not sure." nothing. indistinguishable from muted.
I'm watching this on my phone and I couldn't hear it either. Might just need better speakers or headphones to hear it.
Yeah a phone or smaller speakers can't reproduce those sub frequencies, but if you listen on good headphones or studio monitors they will be audible! Definitely finding a quiet space to listen is a good idea :)
this made me realize that my "range" for whistling is actually incredibly wide, it's just, at the ranges where my whistle breaks i need to switch to a different technique like hissing my tongue or singing 😂 and when my singing breaks i can switch to reverse singing for the ultra bass notes
now, I don't do those ranges WELL, but I can technically emit them
Hello brother.
The content in this video is some of the most useful info I've ever consumed for production. Really appreciate this!
But I'm commenting to say that after I tried to find your video again to sub your channel, I couldn't because you gave the vid a clickbait title instead of anything about "frequency association" etc. I had to search for 10 minutes, even resorting to google searches of stuff I remembered in the video, all to no avail. Eventually I got lucky and it appeared in the "Watch It Again" section of the guest account I initially watched it on. I'm super glad I found you again.
So yeah, I get the grind is real for breaking through and you gotta do some marketing but I think you're going pretty heavy on all the "Wait till the end" or "don't miss this next part" or *explains what the video is about and how awesome it's going to be instead of getting straight into it* and I feel you're actually overshadowing the content itself a little bit with all the cheap stuff. Content which in this instance was some of the most useful I've seen!
Anyway to cut a long story short, all I'm saying is you're making good shit and as long as the editing is noice the shit will stand on its own. Obviously you gotta do some marketing but in this case your marketing made me impatient for you to get to the good stuff and made it difficult for me to find the video 😅
Just one man's feedback! Gonna say once more how much I learned from your vid and appreciate what you're doing!
Edited: typos
Really appreciate your feedback bro. Thanks for the kind words and glad you liked the video. I get what you're saying and I'm working on finding the right balance for this. I try to deliver serious free value in my videos, because these have techniques have been key to what I do in my job, and I think it's important to share it with everyone. Yeah, the dance we face on YT is that without an intriguing title, you may not have found the video to begin with. I originally titled the video with frequency associations, but it got stuck around 100 views. Since repackaging it, around 20K have learned about frequency associations. So part of it is getting viewers to check out the video with an interesting presentation, and then delivering real useful substance inside. I see so many faceless channels with clickbait which then deliver the same mediocre content inside, which is frustrating to see. So the aim here is for anyone who could be reaching for those videos to get really good information here instead. I get that sometimes that type of presentation can be overkill, and I'm realizing lately that my viewers who watch this channel are actually here because they truly want to learn, and at the end of the day, that's all I could ever ask for. Thanks again - one grateful TH-camr right here, appreciating your feedback and working on striking the right balance on this 😊🤘
Much more useful than I expected. Well done. 👍
Thank you!
that is one eerie ass thumbnail
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"It's not thumping and I'm feeling it." Confusing for a song critique, good for 85 - 250 🤣
I use 5 different bass instruments layered in most of my work 3 are low end pads I tweaked plus drums
I found that even with cutting the low end with a shelf cut helps a lot but also switching the polarity on your bass and kick works even better.
You try not to get noise cancellation when all these low end instruments are competing in the overall mix state.
If you add some high end vocals or strings etc you will hear the volume drop out on those if you do not change the polarity on the low end.
Then I use volume automation as well plus add some light reverb effects this too will lower the sound in some cases but over time once you start building up more then 30 instruments with side chained effects it all adds up to higher volume issues.
I can now listen to my mix and hear right away what needs to be treated or lowered in the mixing session.
Just remember as one instrument may sound good in the mix once you start applying more instruments it can increase overall so just keep those mix faders adjusted plus tweak the sends on your channels this helps a lot too.
Once you have listened to many mixes it becomes 2nd nature to the trained ear it takes time to acquire this skill but its part of the musical process which I love.
If you don't get the sound right in the mix your mastering will only bring out the worst of these mistakes by enhancing those issues hence you have to go back and find the problem.
Using reference tracks also helps and I try not to use to much width panning in my work via a plugin alone your better adding 2 channels as to pan left or right to get the same desired effect but with no air sounding quality which some wide plugins do.
I like this approach, great advice! I agree, it's a great skill to have when you can hear right away where to go in your mix to fix problems. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@@audioedgesThank you for your video I found it very well done mate best of luck with your music as well
My music channel is Synthworx SWX if you ever want to check it out all the best cheers
u know bro? ,ur the coolest tutor i've ever seen in mylife, thanks for this omggg
Thank you for watching brother! You rock and this means the world haha 🤘😊
Very helpful. I did live sound reinforcement for a number of years, which helped in this regard. But mixing for live and recording are different animals.
Thank you. That's a great point! I cut my teeth in live sound too. Definitely similarities, yet so different :)
I literally see the Pro-Q3 interface in front of me, and I want to touch it.
What version of Protools are you using? It looks different from 11 that I have. I must be using a very old version. I know I'm dating myself but I learned Protools on version 7. I upgraded from an Mbox to a Control 24 pared with a Protool PC and have been using it until the computer wouldn't recognize the "C" drive. Looks like it's time to upgrade again.
Liked the description of the frequency ranges. Unfortunately, my laptop has crappy little speakers in it so I couldn't make out the lower end isolations. I usually associate 20-200 Hz as thunder from different distances. The longer distance being that low rumble to the closer ones being a pop or boom. As I often deal with singers, the middle range is usually divided in vocal ranges; bass ,tenor alto and soprano. From 5k-12k is clarity of consonants and anything above that is sizzle and high overtones. All of us hear the same things. We just have different associations. I am also a musician so my ears have been trained to listen carefully to not only pitch but also to how sound frequencies interact with each other. It's amazing how if you eq each voice slightly differently, it brings out each voice or instrument in its own frequency nitch in the mix. I find this is particularly useful in live mono mixes. Even in a panned stereo mix, it does the same thing.
Sorry for rambling but this is my passion so it's hard not to.
Liked your video and going check out more of them.
its kinda like tuning carburetor engine by ear. My dad is master at that, he knows what sounds perfect on 2stroke and i just look at the spark plug color after few rips "yeah he was right"
That's incredible, I love that analogy! Exactly haha
you forgot one easy cheat on identifying the ~3.5kHz range - have tinitus 😭
RIP... but also that strategy would work really well. You could have perfect relative pitch if you know your ringing frequency. 😂
the ringing is super loud rn
Take any song. Use Fab Filter EQ to jack up the frequency all the way in the tinitus problem range. You'll hear it when it gets there on a sweep. Then notch it out and you can use that EQ setting in front of any song in the future to mitigate the problem frequency.
Would it not be possible to cancel tinnitus out with earphones similar to how air pod pro is made, and dial in these frequencies for Tinnitus victims? Hmm
This was very helpful, thank you.
I play bass, but i never did really have a handle on this. Now i have a clue at least.
So glad to hear that and awesome that you play bass too! Thanks for watching :)
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this was super cool!! is there perhaps 1 for compression?? 😁😁😁
Thanks so much, that's a great idea! I'll add this to the list!
You explain things so well. I wish more people took the time the way you do. It's funny how you mentioned in the beginning of the video about doing stuff like this as though you had a blindfold on. I'm actually totally blind myself and I love how you describe things so well. What microphone are you using for your audio when you're speaking? How do you make your room so soundproof and not echo at all? You have an amazing voice by the way. I wish I had a voice like yours because my voice is hoarse and weak and raspy and I wish I had a more masculine voice like you.
Thank you so much for this comment. That means a lot! It's an SM7b mic and my room is fully acoustically treated, so it's pretty dead in general when it comes to reflections. I built the room myself and behind the fabric walls are quite a bit of Rockwool. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video from an audio perspective, that's actually the best way this video could be consumed and I'm inspired by your comment! The more we know our frequencies, the more we can enjoy music and sound at a whole new level. I believe you'll find your voice too - it's already there, just waiting to be unleashed. Thanks again and thanks for watching :)
@@audioedges do you sing and write songs? I'm a singer trying to break into the music industry and I would love to collaborate on music with someone. You seem like a great person to collaborate with and I would love to collaborate with you. When you soundproof your room was it pretty expensive or were you able to do it for cheap? What audio interface do you use with your microphone? I have the SM 7DB with the extra gain and the extra switches because the original SM 7B for some reason didn't work very well for me. maybe it was a faulty device or something but I love my DB microphone. Do you use the microphone completely flat or do you apply EQ with the switches on your microphone or do you apply EQ in post processing?
21:43 "Let's hear it one more time"
Me: hear what? 🙃
Great video. I've been needing this kind of breakdown of the frequencies and I'm glad I clicked on yours. Subbed!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the channel :)
Such a good track !! 👀
The man himself! Everyone should check out your channel!! 👀
lol, 02:15 "let's hear what that sounds like" my laptop speakers: silence.
how do those adams compare to those mackies?
I like the Mackies, but the Adams are where it's at for me these days! 💪
great video and great advice! much love for the cheat sheet too !!
Thanks, so glad you enjoyed it and the cheatsheet!! The cheatsheet has the sauce haha :)
wow great introduction! looking at more of your videos definitely subscribed 🫡
Thanks so much! Welcome to the channel :)
0:50 i was like "where does that sound comes from?👀"
When I listen to my mixes my ears tend to "close" as if I was on a flight, (not that extreme but the effect is similar) and I can't locate where the problem is and why this is happening
Appreciate the knowledge. Thank you for sharing/teaching
Happy to help :)
Hmmm. Why do we have to give you our email addresses in order to get the cheat sheet? Seems like you're asking us to give YOU a gift.
I send my email list a ton of free stuff and other opportunities that I don’t share here. My newsletter the other week was a full breakdown of production moves I taught to 25 bands at my one-on-one workshops through Jan-Feb. If it’s not for you, no worries at all. But I share some of my best stuff with my email subs🤘😊
Man I feel like I'm just too dumb to get this. I've watched countless vids on how to eq yourself and just set up a parametric eq via Equalizer APO and AutoEQ master (using attached settings for my headphones specifically). It sounds great because the sound is now 100% neutral but I really love unproportionally strong bass and other than playing with some values on a graphic equalizer while listening to it, I can't manage to do it in a clean way because I just won't understand the absolute basics of this stuff lol. It worked for me before by dragging some sliders up by unholy amounts and it did sound good (not like a dirty bass boost but not quite like the super duper clean rebass either) but every expert in this field would tell me I'm just ruining my sound. I just made use of the sliders that sounded like they were intensifying bass and adding a bit of delay in it. Really, I don't know what kinda video I need to understand how to do this properly.
Woof Woof! 200😎
Short cut -) Ear training with the App Quiztones
10:50 sounds exactly like the music played through the telephone when you're on hold lmao
Exactly haha!
The secret tip was to watch this video over and over again. Hilarious
subscribed! that was a lesson I wish my teachers would have taught me, thanks!!!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks and welcome to the channel! :)
Excellent!!!Thanks!!
Thanks, happy to help! :)
Great video. I will watch it all over daily until I knew it in my sleep.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! It’ll surprise you how quickly you pick up on it when doing that!
I can hear those frequency associations in isolation (as you demonstrated in the video), but in the context of a full mix, I cannot seem to pick them out. I can generally pick out individual instruments in a full track, just not individual bands of frequencies.
Same.
That's fair and pretty normal, but it absolutely will come with time if you keep paying attention to them! It's nice to be able to develop this skill, which also changes how you listen to and enjoy music. Thanks for watching!
Yeah after about 20 years i can tell it's general location. Like oh that need something around 10k or oh that needs less 80 feels a little boomy. Or Maybe I should notch out 1k it's a little pericing on the snare. Stuff like that. I could never listen to a 10k pitch and be able to say oh that's a 10k pitch at -3 db. some people can but having relative ability is good enough for me.
Nice, I totally get that! A strong relative ability is all you need to be an amazing mixer, the exact frequency name is definitely not as important as instinctively knowing the general area where you need to go to locate it :)
Great info - thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
very helpful, thanks!
SUPER VERY CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND :-) you make learning fun, new subscriber!!!!!
So glad to hear that! Thank you and welcome aboard! :)
I can whistle 500Hz-2100Hz apparently
super cool stuff. thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Great video!
Thanks so much!
a cosmic thank you!!!!
You're so welcome!
thank you sooo muche!!! realy helped me a lot =)
unfortunately, due to my age and years of gigging, I can't hear the 16k and above, so I have to have other people's input when I'm mixing
Totally understand. To put a positive spin on it, I think the good news is it's always a good practice to get an outside perspective! So this way it kind of forces you to get an extra ear on things, when others who may have top end intact might skip getting a second opinion and miss something else :)
youtube compresses the audio above 15k. its not ur fault, its literally not in the audio because of youtube
I lost 20 mins. Yes indeed, never going back.
Used NS10s for a long time so I can probably point out 2khz
That's not what I wanted - Luke Prov: th-cam.com/video/rnYKsVElu6o/w-d-xo.html
save you a search for anyone interested. the original seems woefully underexposed, barely anyone seems to have seen it
Very helpful, thanks a lot. Not going to tell an engineer 'bit too much cappuccino machine there, mate', though:)
Thanks, happy to help! Hahaha best to leave that part unsaid 😂
where is the bonus tip in the end of the video? sorry i missed or dont get it haha. But great content! Hi from brazil
Thank you Enzo! At the end of the video I share a free cheatsheet for boosting and cutting frequencies in your mixes :)
Super helpful!💯👏🏻
Thanks! Glad to hear that! :)
Helped a lot thanks dawg
Thank you! Glad to hear :)
Is it just me or is there even music playing when he is going through the diff groups
Genius
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! :)
This is super helping
Thanks, so glad to hear that!
Great job
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Desperation
LOL. I don’t even hear everything higher than 12k. And if you are over 45, you have a good chance that you also don‘t
"So if you guys just pay attention to MY NATURAL WHISTLE RANGE you will be able to identify frequencies based on my vocal pitch!"
LOL. The point here is actually to try for yourself and find your natural range, so you can create your own association. Though demonstration will still be useful for most, because most of my viewer demographic will have a similar whistle range between 900-2K.
@@audioedges lmao I get it bro, just pointing that out hahaha. All love, great video!
Sugar Sound stole your video dude, report it lol
... actually last time i saw their video, there was a comment saying it was sus similar to this one, an it seems that comment is gone...weird
Thanks for letting me know man, I’m seeing they’ve now stolen a few. Even Magic Mix Glue featuring Greg Wells, which I would think is way too specific to copy but they did it anyway. It sucks to put a ton of work into an original idea and video, to see a carbon copy pop up a few days later trying to slide in front of our algorithm push. It means the world that you guys will comment for accountability and icky that they deleted it. I have nothing against promoting audio education, but I feel like being original is a part of viewer transparency. Appreciate you guys so much 🙏
@@audioedges when I first write, I was joking, then I remembered that comment. Saw the video to see if I was or not getting crazy. Is not the same but seems really similar, so now I'm hesitating to point the finger. Now you tell me this has been done before to you? That sucks man. I think I watched a YT channel of a big company doing the exact info with same schematics of another channel video tutorial, and then a third party did a video pointing that. Those guys are a plague. Let your community know, you did give great info, I hope those people who find it useful also stand up for this
There is a lot of information. Useful - 0
Hey Edges, I’m starting a Song A Week challenge to help artists design their lifestyle and learn music business. I’d love to have you in the challenge, links on my channel.
The title of the video promises a lot. And then its just 20 minutes sweeping an eq band, very boring 😢
the point of the video is to get you to train your ears. hence the title
Then the title of the video should be ear training or something like that...
@@coolmind2476 thats basically what the title say. just not literally
@@coolmind2476 "mixer ear"
Clickbait
Not a great start. I may be no "Spring chicken" but when someone plays silence and tells me I feel it, which I don't, then what I feel is that it's not for me.
You're NEVER going to hear OR feel ANY of the bass OR sub-bass range, (i.e. any frequency under about 80 Hz or so), using only your phone or tablet speakers, because they certainly CANNOT physically reproduce ANY of those lower frequencies to begin with, (actually most phone and tablet speakers are totally (100%) limited on the bottom end to only be able to reproduce frequencies of about 200 Hz absolute minimum), and then also, anything below about 20-25 Hz gets MAJORLY reduced in level or even eliminated completely by TH-cam compression and bandwidth limiting itself, but that does NOT mean that it's just "silence", or that those frequencies are not there, and they definitely CAN be heard and/or felt on a really good recording, and when they are played back on a truly full range, high quality audio system with really good speakers, so don't just automatically assume something without knowing the true and complete facts about it!
@@JoeJ-8282 They are still silent to me, and whatever the explanation is, it still isn't useful. Knowing complete facts doesn't come in to it, the comment is still valid.
@@WideCuriosity OK, if you STILL cannot hear any of those lower frequencies below that range, even while listening closely through headphones or while listening on a full range stereo system with good speakers, then maybe you just can't physically hear those frequencies, which I guess then in your specific case, your comment is valid, so it is what it is I guess...
This guy's mix in this video doesn't have the greatest low end to begin with either, even on a really good playback system, however I could definitely tell it was there, but it wasn't as strong and powerful as he was viscerally describing, so maybe that was part of your issue with it, which is a fair argument.
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Tonal profile looks flat, isn't it supposed to look like a pink noise profile for mix to be balanced?
Pink noise can be a strategy to help some people to find a balance, but it's not a rule. I prefer the mix with your ears / not your eyes approach. If it sounds good, it's good. :)
I agree, so it is not a preference, preset on th EQ it self or something?@@audioedges
Dude said "tomber"