100% disagree. WandaVision LITERALLY ended with Wanda reading the Darkhold, dark music, and her boys crying out to her for help... that's literally the plot of Multiverse. Did you see the end credits scene of WandaVision?
@@Yehoshua66 DSMoM is her exact arc in wandavision repeated and done worse. Wanda is overwhelmed by grief and in her efforts to regain what she has lost causes incalculable damage to those around her before sacrificing it all at the end. Except this time, the DSMoM writer made her a hysterical homicidal lunatic who takes dozens of lives and then kills herself. It was lazy, uninteresting, misogynistic and pointless. All for wanda to learn the exact same lesson she learned in westview. Also her boys being in danger is never brought up in DSMoM, it was completely dropped and they were perfectly happy in 838. Just all around a mess.
I’d agree, but only if she’s well-written. WandaVision was an excellent character analysis of Wanda, and MoM portrayed her as a hysterical, histrionic parody of a scorned lover.
Yeah, but Waldron who wrote Multiverse of Madness could've bothered to read the WandaVision scripts before writing Wnada. Jac Shaeffer obviously took the rime to familiarize herself with that film's plot before writing Agatha.
@@AngelEyesMayCry “Watching a character you love do bad things sucks. That elicits a strong feeling, which is what we’re trying to do in the movies. We never would have done it if it didn’t feel like the next step in her character journey. To me, my interpretation of the story of ‘WandaVision’ was, that Wanda is confronting her grief in that show, but I don’t think she’s necessarily conquering it. It’s a show about her living in denial to some extent and she’s conquering her denial, but I don’t think that she’s properly reckoning with her anger over what she’s endured, and that anger is what she carries with her as she walks away with the knowledge that she is the Scarlett Witch and with the Darkhold, this evil book. And I think it’s that anger that the Darkhold preys upon and pushes her on what is a, to me and I think to Wanda, a very justifiable, noble journey. She just wants her kids.”
@AngelEyesMayCry He said he didn't watch WandaVision, not that he didn't read the scripts. Watching the final cut for WandaVision would've been impossible because it didn't release yet. Waldron made it very clear that he read the scripts and watched early cuts of the show. His Loki writers' room was also right next to her writers' room, so they were close with one another at the time.
I could imagine her co-writing the script for Doomsday, for the magical characters. Imagine seeing the Scarlet Witch, Agatha, Wiccan, Doctor Strange, Wong and Sylvie fighting as a team, in some scenes of the movie.
There is really a stark difference between female characters written by women compared to female characters written by men. The latter usually ends up with women suffering for male characters' sake of development and usually ends up dead. I enjoyed MoM but I agree that they did not do Wanda a favor there.
what made me sad about MoM was that they Wanadvision and the beautiful heartbreaking story of Wanda’s motherhood and turned Wanda into a monster and sort of demonized her attachment to her children
I enjoyed Wanda in MoM. I can understand why people weren’t into that direction, but she was mesmerizing as the Scarlet Witch! Everything I wanted to see post-WV.
It's okay, Jac, you can say they slaughtered Wanda's character development. I'm sorry, but I think if you're going to be making media about a character in a universe that all ties together, you should be required to watch all prior media in the universe with the character and THEN write for the character.
You clearly didn't understand that post credit scene at the end of Wandavision. You do realize she was corrupted by the Darkhold right? They literally said so multiple times.
@@movielover7565 You do realize that "corrupted by the Darkhold" and "having plans that made 0 logical sense in any universe" are not synonyms, right? Nobody's contesting that Wanda at the end of the show was being corrupted. But her story in MoM makes Z E R O sense - especially with the context of the very post credit scene you're talking about. You know? The one where her children are screaming for Wanda to help them? Something that might have made Wanda's goal and actions a tiny bit reasonable? But nah, let's drop that and instead they are perfectly happy, living in another universe with a perfectly pleasant Wanda as their mom.
I wish she gave her real answer about the Wanda question She provided a good explanation why Wanda couldn’t sense Billy by Lilia’s sigil. I wonder if she planned that from the beginning or did she need to figure out a plan Coz now I’m wondering if Dr. Strange put a sigil on Peter Parker
Nah. She's saying even if you've maybe figured out who Teen is, the point is how we reveal and uncover the mystery, not about the answer itself. I think it's pretty much a confirmation that he's Wiccan, but that the journey to that being revealed will still be entertaining
eh, it was more on the writer. And Feige for enabling him Scott Derrickson (director of DS) left because of creative differences and we know now that Waldron (director of MoM) never bothered to watch WV and just really wanted to make Wanda a villain. Raimi just was a big name to get people excited, who was willing to make the movie cause he had no real investment on the characters or the MCU, who at least brought some of his style to the film.
MoM is one of the worst mcu film project along side with Thor 4, i hate that movie so much, what they did to Wanda is unforgivable, she was perfection at the end of Wandavision 😕
@@revenge217 A behind the scenes of MoM? I know they did a few pickup shots and the post credits in the cabin to line up with DS2. But all the listed production dates I've seen have principal photography wrapping just before MoM began.
@@revenge217 Okay. But according to the official production dates WandaVision finished filming all 9 episodes in November of 2020 before MoM started filming later the same month. The only part of WV that was filmed after MoM was a few pickup shots and the end credits scene, not the finale. Though, it's possible Marvel altered the official production info to hide something...
Doctor Strange 2 really sucked. It could have been better with more of a grounded plot and a hero's journey type story. I'm sick of nostalgia prn cameo-bating schlock.
it also felt handicapped in the sense that it was trying to be the darkest and scariest mcu film but couldnt commit to an r rating or full horror theme
@@godisjihyo3615 MCU films specifically, and comic book movies and general, do not commit to the horror theme. They try to be exciting and uplifting, not scary. Any argument to the contrary is deeply flawed.
Ms. Schaeffer: Jane Lapotaire is Agatha Harkness. Comics accurate 100%. Casting her would have been an act of homage to Jack Kirby and the original classic Agatha Harkness REAL comic book fans of this character have loved and adored for over 50 years.
@@OkNow86 yeah it's call the target audience! The people who made marvel what it was. now they are loosing millions and it's their fault. It's hilarious! But this show wasn't made for me. That's why I don't watch this crap.
Jac was extremely diplomatic with her answer about what they did to Wanda in Dr Strange 2. To me it was a crime.
She's a villain. Deal with it.
@@alphanerd7221 no she's not...but yeah only in your head
100% disagree. WandaVision LITERALLY ended with Wanda reading the Darkhold, dark music, and her boys crying out to her for help... that's literally the plot of Multiverse. Did you see the end credits scene of WandaVision?
@@Yehoshua66 DSMoM is her exact arc in wandavision repeated and done worse. Wanda is overwhelmed by grief and in her efforts to regain what she has lost causes incalculable damage to those around her before sacrificing it all at the end. Except this time, the DSMoM writer made her a hysterical homicidal lunatic who takes dozens of lives and then kills herself. It was lazy, uninteresting, misogynistic and pointless. All for wanda to learn the exact same lesson she learned in westview. Also her boys being in danger is never brought up in DSMoM, it was completely dropped and they were perfectly happy in 838. Just all around a mess.
This is the standard in hollywood, it's not professional to talk down on other creators.
Jac Schaeffer is absolutely right. We need more of Wanda, more of Lizzie!!
I’d agree, but only if she’s well-written. WandaVision was an excellent character analysis of Wanda, and MoM portrayed her as a hysterical, histrionic parody of a scorned lover.
@@arc7375agreed. More Wanda for sure, but definitely handled with the utmost care like Jac handles her.
100000%
I dont want to wait 2 more years for a Scarlet Witch movie 💔😖😭
Jac needs to direct a wanda movie!
Tbh I’d love for her to helm to supernatural side of the MCU as a whole, make her a producer! She can still write and direct other projects as well.
Jac has something really remarkable about her. She has such bright energy. She's brilliant!
Agree. She’s so passionate about her art and it shows.
she handled that Multiverse of madness with such class. shes better than me that's for sure 😂
Yeah, but Waldron who wrote Multiverse of Madness could've bothered to read the WandaVision scripts before writing Wnada. Jac Shaeffer obviously took the rime to familiarize herself with that film's plot before writing Agatha.
I'm curious why you think he didn't.
@@IndieFilmmaker82he said it himself and even if he wasn't say a thing it's pretty obvious when watching M.o.M
Was Wnada a clever intended pun on her death or a typo 😂🎉
@@AngelEyesMayCry “Watching a character you love do bad things sucks. That elicits a strong feeling, which is what we’re trying to do in the movies. We never would have done it if it didn’t feel like the next step in her character journey. To me, my interpretation of the story of ‘WandaVision’ was, that Wanda is confronting her grief in that show, but I don’t think she’s necessarily conquering it. It’s a show about her living in denial to some extent and she’s conquering her denial, but I don’t think that she’s properly reckoning with her anger over what she’s endured, and that anger is what she carries with her as she walks away with the knowledge that she is the Scarlett Witch and with the Darkhold, this evil book. And I think it’s that anger that the Darkhold preys upon and pushes her on what is a, to me and I think to Wanda, a very justifiable, noble journey. She just wants her kids.”
@AngelEyesMayCry He said he didn't watch WandaVision, not that he didn't read the scripts. Watching the final cut for WandaVision would've been impossible because it didn't release yet. Waldron made it very clear that he read the scripts and watched early cuts of the show. His Loki writers' room was also right next to her writers' room, so they were close with one another at the time.
Sh's so right about rio's character, and Aubrey's performance. Both are incredible and haunting
I could imagine her co-writing the script for Doomsday, for the magical characters. Imagine seeing the Scarlet Witch, Agatha, Wiccan, Doctor Strange, Wong and Sylvie fighting as a team, in some scenes of the movie.
please please please please!!!!!!
There is really a stark difference between female characters written by women compared to female characters written by men. The latter usually ends up with women suffering for male characters' sake of development and usually ends up dead. I enjoyed MoM but I agree that they did not do Wanda a favor there.
what made me sad about MoM was that they Wanadvision and the beautiful heartbreaking story of Wanda’s motherhood and turned Wanda into a monster and sort of demonized her attachment to her children
Agree, I had no idea she had written ALL of my favourite characters, but it makes sense, she made them complex and not male-gazey
It should’ve been Wanda and Doctor Strange vs Nightmare
Or even the two vs. Chthon who was influencing Wanda through the Darkhold
That was the original script. Waldron changed it.
@@joelhenry5489 Was it really or are you fw me?
@@Yourpluss1it was, its pretty easy to find the concept art online and marvel execs talking about it
@@peytonjames yeah I looked it up after dude commented and yeah it was suppose to be 🙃
I enjoyed Wanda in MoM.
I can understand why people weren’t into that direction, but she was mesmerizing as the Scarlet Witch! Everything I wanted to see post-WV.
I agree!
Genius writing! ✍️ Especially Lilia’s episode of psychological chaos!
Five Stars Marvel has a winner. The talent from writer to the actors I've watched the first two episodes everyday sense they've dropped.
Her name is Jac Schaeffer
It's okay, Jac, you can say they slaughtered Wanda's character development.
I'm sorry, but I think if you're going to be making media about a character in a universe that all ties together, you should be required to watch all prior media in the universe with the character and THEN write for the character.
You clearly didn't understand that post credit scene at the end of Wandavision. You do realize she was corrupted by the Darkhold right? They literally said so multiple times.
@@movielover7565 You do realize that "corrupted by the Darkhold" and "having plans that made 0 logical sense in any universe" are not synonyms, right?
Nobody's contesting that Wanda at the end of the show was being corrupted. But her story in MoM makes Z E R O sense - especially with the context of the very post credit scene you're talking about. You know? The one where her children are screaming for Wanda to help them? Something that might have made Wanda's goal and actions a tiny bit reasonable? But nah, let's drop that and instead they are perfectly happy, living in another universe with a perfectly pleasant Wanda as their mom.
Very diplomatic response.
I wish she gave her real answer about the Wanda question
She provided a good explanation why Wanda couldn’t sense Billy by Lilia’s sigil.
I wonder if she planned that from the beginning or did she need to figure out a plan
Coz now I’m wondering if Dr. Strange put a sigil on Peter Parker
they all looked so amazing in their outfits!!! 😭😭
I can imagine her writing the Goblin Queen. I think if they ever need someone to write Maddy... oh Jac, it should be you.
Her basically telling us not to get our hopes up about Wiccan 💀
Nah. She's saying even if you've maybe figured out who Teen is, the point is how we reveal and uncover the mystery, not about the answer itself. I think it's pretty much a confirmation that he's Wiccan, but that the journey to that being revealed will still be entertaining
@@RammythelogophileI think it’ll be revealed that he already died, and that’s our Billy variant, and he’s trying desperately to resurrect mommy.
I absolutely blame the director for MOM. They gave Sam Raimi too much control and he butchered Wanda.
eh, it was more on the writer. And Feige for enabling him
Scott Derrickson (director of DS) left because of creative differences and we know now that Waldron (director of MoM) never bothered to watch WV and just really wanted to make Wanda a villain.
Raimi just was a big name to get people excited, who was willing to make the movie cause he had no real investment on the characters or the MCU, who at least brought some of his style to the film.
Please, of all the creators, please let her get more stuff. Marvel needs to just let her make whatever she wants, cause clearly it works
Just give Jac the run with all the magic based characters
Sasheer looks so beautiful
this show is amazing ❤
now that AAA is done this interview hits different
MoM is one of the worst mcu film project along side with Thor 4, i hate that movie so much, what they did to Wanda is unforgivable, she was perfection at the end of Wandavision 😕
They did the whole MoM movie before filming the WandaVision finale….. That’s why it feels weird
WandaVision finished filming November of 2020. MoM started filming directly after.
@@IndieFilmmaker82 there’s a behind the scene when Elizabeth said “ Now we’re returning to filming the wandavision finale “
@@revenge217 A behind the scenes of MoM? I know they did a few pickup shots and the post credits in the cabin to line up with DS2. But all the listed production dates I've seen have principal photography wrapping just before MoM began.
@@IndieFilmmaker82 im talking about the finale … not the entire show
@@revenge217 Okay. But according to the official production dates WandaVision finished filming all 9 episodes in November of 2020 before MoM started filming later the same month. The only part of WV that was filmed after MoM was a few pickup shots and the end credits scene, not the finale. Though, it's possible Marvel altered the official production info to hide something...
I would marry Zamata if she said yes .
This confirms Billy's existence
Probably the 3 souls went somewhere else, I think they will reincarnate Vision
3?
Why reincarnate Vision when he is not dead?
Wanda's-Vision downloaded all of his memories into white-Vision. So, he's technically alive somewhere. M.I.A. for 3 years
@@theUselessProfessor but he's just a shell
Aubrey is ‘subservient to the dark lords’ ??
Doctor Strange 2 really sucked. It could have been better with more of a grounded plot and a hero's journey type story. I'm sick of nostalgia prn cameo-bating schlock.
it also felt handicapped in the sense that it was trying to be the darkest and scariest mcu film but couldnt commit to an r rating or full horror theme
@@godisjihyo3615it wasn’t that kind of horror…it was camp. Y’all really don’t know or care about anything outside y’all’s interests and it shows lol
@@godisjihyo3615 MCU films specifically, and comic book movies and general, do not commit to the horror theme. They try to be exciting and uplifting, not scary. Any argument to the contrary is deeply flawed.
@@nailinthefashionur wrong.
But I bet you went nuts for Deadpool and Wolverine you just don't like it when it's not done to your liking
Wiccan. She has her eyes on Wiccan.
The shorts are wild. Like what is even happening? Biked to work that day and forgot to bring a change of clothes?
so the cast dressed up but the interviewer in short shorts? really? that’s professional?
Why do you care so much ?
It’s giving “tan suit” energy
I’m not a stickler, but I kinda agree….not really professional
Ms. Schaeffer: Jane Lapotaire is Agatha Harkness. Comics accurate 100%. Casting her would have been an act of homage to Jack Kirby and the original classic Agatha Harkness REAL comic book fans of this character have loved and adored for over 50 years.
What fans?? Are this fans bringing money and prestige to the show?? It's the show getting number 1 for weeks because of these fans?? Shut up.
Does David own any trousers? He looks like a homeless guy who wandered in off the street.
Showing legs
First
…and nothing of value was earned or shared.
Someone give that dude a cheeseburger quickly!
Don’t do that.
M SHE U! M SHE U!
jesus christ
What’s the problem? It was virtually all male before and no one complained 🤷🏽♂️
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@@OkNow86 yeah it's call the target audience! The people who made marvel what it was. now they are loosing millions and it's their fault. It's hilarious! But this show wasn't made for me. That's why I don't watch this crap.
@@guzkus1 nope no Jesus here just evil people making shows for evil people 😭