@@davidwaynegeorge2292 Could you possibly do a video on replacing steering head bearings? I own a 2012 Patrol. Malcolm in Manilla in New South Wales Australia
Although I watch all of your videos, when I saw this, I thought - I know all of this stuff and have taken long trips with enough provisions to last months. You know what? It was a superb video! Although all of the stuff I haul is probably 60lbs max, it was great to see what happens when you load incorrectly. I totally agree with the wind drag part too, since it degrades fuel mileage significantly. Thank you, David, for the great instructions!
Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to comment, motivates me to keep making more videos. Apologize for the late reply, hope the camping with your dog was a good trip!
Great video. I have known people that have done long trips on 250cc bikes, like you stated it's knowing your bike and being smart. I did a 900 mile trip on my 2019 Gear Up with no problems, I got 34-46mpg on the trip. It was done in over 90 degree weather. Bump up the engine to 900cc and add a fith gear, you would have no worries about going on any long trips. Love your videos, keep them going.
Scott Evans totally agree with bumping up to 900 cc and modernising the gear box. Mine sounds 1940. Also beef up the final drive. That said nothing is as much fun on wheels.
Thank you and well said Scott! Good to hear your rig is treating you right. As for displacement and gearing we can't promise anything, but we are always trying to make Ural better since we took the reins back in the early 2000's. The difference even in the last 2-3 years is so evident when I get on our old 2010 shop mule Gear-up. Even though most of us have been doing this day in and day out for oh so many years we still get excited with every change and improvement when it finally gets past the idea, R&D, planning and production stages and we finally see it materialized on a new bike. Just gives us more energy to keep going.
Love all these vids. I want one of these bikes pretty badly and have wanted one for about 5-6 years or so now. I currently live and commute in Houston and just can’t swing the extra cash for one at the moment but in a few years will be moving to Colorado and will def be getting one of these then. These videos are awesome cause they help keep me motivated and focused on that goal!
This is great info even for those of us that are seasoned 2 wheeled riders. I pick up my “new to me” 2008 GUP this weekend. Thank you for putting significant time and effort into these videos.
Great stuff! Thanks. Please do a video where you could answer one fundamental question: why ural sidecars are so great, however, so underpowered. I've been riding sidecars for more than 10 years. 40 PS is not enough, there should be 75 at least: why don't you put a 1200cc there and that's it, we buy it and we all live happily afterwards.
Viktoras, thank you for the suggestion. I am actually trying to do a video where these questions get answered. Not sure when it might be done but stay tuned.
I have a 2017 retro. I love the bike because I can take my dog anywhere on it and it's very cool. To me, the M-70 is a thing of beauty. I'm sorry you aren't not making it anymore but the CT and gear up are good replacements. I know that the M-70 is not built for 70mph with a full load. I didn't purchase it for that reason. Thank you very much for doing this video. It's all very common sense. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what really is all basic physics. This bike is so much fun and has so much character, but it is what it. We need to respect that. Keep building the quality product that you are currently building and you'll keep putting smiles on peoples' faces. I hope more people get exposed to this fun motorcycle. Thanks for doing what you're doing
The Retro/M-70 is also my favorite model Larry. Coming from a vintage car/motorcycle family I fell in love with the classic look. I was sad to see it go too but it was the smart move for a small volume manufacturer when comparing sales by model and the need to commit resources to improve the best selling models. Thank you for the comment and feedback too, you get it... really appreciate that.
Thanks for the video. Important stuff indeed. As for the wind drag from any windscreen on the side car, I am sure it would be considerably less than the drag from a passenger and no windscreen.
I'm starting to think my next bike is going to be one of these, the off-road features look fun and being able to outfit it to look like an old military bike is just icing on the cake
Excellent video. Food for thought for adding accessories. Their weight adds up & does effect the load on the rig. May have to reassess what I really need. Thanks for your videos & all your thought & work producing them.
Awesome video! Thank you for the demonstrations and step-by-step explanation! Perfect timing too as the wife and I plan our first multi hour road trip. Ride safe!
Another good topic, and it also confirms we have been using the rig properly..!! Aircraft manufacturers all have to develop and publish a “weight & balance” program for Each type of aircraft they make with a Maximum weight for each station/compartment along the longitudinal & lateral axes... while the Ur-old is usually sitting on the ground, 🤷🏻♂️ all the same principles still apply. 😎👍✅
I was so glad to hear that most production and all assembly of Ural motorcycles and sidecars has been moved out of Russia and all production will be relocating as soon as possible! I can now continue with my plans to purchase a Ural motorcycle sidecar as I have been planning to do! A historic soviet brand gone from Russia for good because of the Special Millitary Operation! I believe Russia has shot itself in both feet!
I lived in Russia for two years. Spent a lot of time in Siberia and saw these Urals being used year around. I also lived in China and witnessed the Chinese version, which in 2000 you could buy for $800 US. Great machines, very different from motorcycles but cool as hell. I will have one when I move back to the states.
Thank you for making this video. I recently had problems with my 2018 air. The two cylinder heads are leaking oil. Now I have a better idea as to how to go on a trip and not cause problems to my Ural.
Great advice! It's be nice if there was one on towing and wiring up a tow wire harness. I know not to tow alot but why have an accessory mount lol. Love my bike so far!
Amazing, if I had $20,000 and a bike licence, I would definitely be getting one of these. I get a good look once a year, at The Montreal Motor Bike Show, every year.
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This was the best video I have seen on the Ural, thank you David. I have an older carb model that runs fine (cold nature ed) I have been thinking the Germans must be strong armed fellows as my bike always seems to want to go one way or another. Always weaseling with it.
Hello Jim, this is an nearly 68 years, 6ft, 185lbs german grandad writing. proud owner of a 2003 ural tourist since 2weeks now. newbie in "sidecar-ridiing". got a hint to "read the road". again. my "mileage" on two wheels at least half a million kilometers. familiar to read where i want to go. sidecar riding is DIFFERENT! the sidecar follows the direction of inherent energy. on bended, warp roads it will be string of "mini ziggzaggs". have fun on every mile. my other ride is a Honda ATAS dct eera🥴
Thanks for what I felt was a well delivered education on proper loading for safest riding. Could well be that some folks don't even consider this inescapable fact of physics until something get's dropped in their and there passengers laps. And I grieve that the side hacks under bumper got scraped just to teach me a lesson.
Glad it was helpful, you should test ride a new model! Same displacement motor but we are getting more out of it than ever before with the new EFI and other upgrades internally.
good video! great advice on loading smart, taking into account that this is an air-cooled lower powered bike, with some limitations to take into consideration, slow down when loaded or hot weather.
Cool nose dive. I have replayed it 10 times. Great video. Normally I ride the Ural with the laptop backpack and that's it, but I have full ammo box and two baraholka boxes full of stuff. Your nose dive example has reminded me the original educational video where it was suggested to place two sandbags on the floor of an empty sidecar (I think about 50 lbs) to make it more stable. So placing them on the floor should lead to the same extreme nose dive on the left turn breaking or not? I think that you should ride the sidecar with the passenger or empty, without sandbags on the floor, as combating against a flying chair on the right turns on the lower speeds is way easier than sudden nose-diving during the left turns or extreme braking. What do you think? P.S.: waiting for the preload adjustment video.
Thank you for the comments Albert, I still have the shock pre-load video on my to-do list, I'm only limited by time. It will get done though. So lets see if I can answer clearly... adding the weight for ballast is fine for new riders as they learn or even for skilled riders who want a little extra confidence around right hand turns at speed. The key is to get the ballast loaded as close to over the sidecar axle as possible. For Ural that's literally right in the passenger seat. So if that isn't an option, on the floor as close to the seat as possible is the best practice. In my example I had 60lbs. loaded way up in the nose on the floor. It was easy to get it to unload and nose dive but had the weight been pushed back just 10-12 inches towards the rear it would have been much more difficult. So don't worry about an unexpected nosedive just think logically when you load and you'll never have an issue. PLUS experienced riders can feel a weight issue within a few hundred feet of riding. So you could pull over and make a load adjustment if necessary. Hope this helps.
If the Gear Up (2014 model) speedometer is to be believed, I was able to get it up to where the needle was fluttering between 75 and 80 on a flat road. I weigh about 270 and was carrying very little, and I only travelled about 40 miles. I didn't know about the weight distribution, good to know.
Roque, I will consider it and thank you for the suggestion. I will add it to my list and see what I can do. I can't promise when it might be done as I have many videos I'm working on at the moment.
Good information about loading. Not something that is immediately apparent to some people. Particularly the final example of too heavy nose loading, I have seen that happen a few times at rallies. At the end of the video I noticed the shocks you have on that outfit - what type are they ?
A quick question: Why do you use the dry weight of the motorcycle? Here in germany, we use the "Empty weight" which is calculated by: The wet-weight of the vehicle, + 75 Kg (~150 pounds) driver + 90% filled tank in Kg, + other required things (like the mandatory first aid kit on cars) While the driver weight is a bit of a wierd one, as no two drivers are the same, the other stuff makes much more sense in my eye, if you want to know how much you can load unto your vehicle
Great video, but if the rims are out of round or warped/weakened due to one or more loose/misadjusted spokes, then you're gonna eventually have problems.-John in Texas
So if the spare tire, luggage rake and full jerry can consume some of the weight capacity, does their placement in the aft portion of the sidecar count against the recommended max 20% of load in that area of the car? If I have no additional objects in the side car, just the mounted accessories, have I already violated the 20% guideline? To keep the load spread correctly, should I alway be running with 70% ballast in the sidecar seat? I believe most experienced riders eventually remove the ballast. Any guidelines on max loads to be placed directly behind the rider rather than a passenger on a bench or enduro seat? One of the available accessories is a "Luggage Rack for Behind Rear seat". What are the recommended loads for using that?
The accessory items do subtract from the available payload capacity, just as fuel and other fluids do. I mentioned this in the video because folks have brought up that our dry weight differs from the actual weight. The dry weight specification is from certification with no fluids or accessories, just a bare bones bike and sidecar. However a factory accessorized Gear-up 2WD with spare tire, luggage rack, Jerry can, etc. is already considered when suggesting the 20/70/10 percentage recommendation. In the real world we all know there is never a perfectly balanced load so the recommendation is made factoring in a margin of safety. Now with everything I mentioned, all of this is majorly influenced by the riders skill level, so running with ballast is all dependent on the riders comfort level, I ALWAYS recommend ballast for new riders for at least a few weeks or months. If you have a higher level of experience than you can accommodate for the difference in handling simply with rider input. The recommendations about wind drag and taxing the motor with additional payload or in high ambient temperatures still apply even to experienced riders who seem to forget this. Hope this helps, I apologize... I try to be clear in the videos but sometimes I get tongue tied in front of the camera. If you have more questions please feel free to contact us by email at info@ural.com
Do what David says on this one! Weight:HP ratio and aero take care of the speed thing... I stuff the light stuff in the nose. sleeping bag, thermarest (yep it fits), other sleeping stuff, middle tools (I carry a lot more than stock plus a jack, air pump, battery charger...) ice chest and contents, and alt riding gear all in middle, trunk - computer and camera crap, HD saddle bag liner I use as suit case, meds. Chair and may be tent on rack. Weight wise, matches sidecar chart... Don't over load, remember that idiot who tried to travel around the world via South East Asia a few years ago. Ignored advice from one of the est dealers period about this and broke his swing arm and frame - over loaded to the extreme. I think he stills whines about it on AV from time to time...all his fault...vent over...
Yes it helps because the sidecar wheel is turning at the same rate as the sidecar. The downside, it steers like a tank and wants to go straight forward. So keep it in 1WD in good traction conditions, 2WD is for fun or traction/handling in mud, snow or sand. Or if you get stuck in a precarious position 2WD can sometimes help you get un-stuck, or if your like me... allows you to get stuck worse than you would be capable of if you only had 1WD.
Good eye Joey! Nobody else has asked me about those. They are prototypes we have been testing from a UK company. Check back from time to time, there will most likely be more details to offer on this shock soon, maybe even before the end of the year.
I know you have not been owner of Ural for that long but do you have access to the older more vintage Ural manuals, say of the M66 and M67 oof the late 70's early 80's ?
That's 10MPH too few. Hopefully Ural will increase performance one day. I don't need a hayabusa, but I do need an ability to cruise at a decent highway speed with passenger & luggage, and to have a bit in reserve to overtake.
I am 3 years late to this chat. Would a Retro have the same speed ratings? I am asking because they have 18" wheels and not the 19". As far as I know the final drive ratios for the gears are the same. Would the smaller wheels reduce the top speed?
What I meant was URAL doesn't know when we will have more displacement or 5th gear. Until such a time this is the recommendation for loading the sidecar currently in production. I apologize for any confusion.
Well, my 06 Ural Tourist has a 5 speed gearbox, 4 go frontwards, 1 goes backwards. Dats a 5 speed gearbox. Remember, it is a super fun bike to ride, not many motorcycles are as utilitarian as a Ural, and UDF is always fun!
Why not dark side the tires, using small car tires or specifically made flat tread sidecar tires? I had an old triumph and it hade a tire with a dead flat tire as like a cars tread would be. Then the maximum permissible weight would go up because car tires have a significantly higher weight limit. Sidecar tires do not roll side to side like motorcycles unless you are flying the car. Sidewall strength is the one limiting limit that is thrown in motorcyclists face if they want to go to the dark side. It is really not a factor when using the sidecar.
Can see all those Russians getting the scales out and weighing everything. Can also see them doing what I do, if it needs to come along, we load it on. Hurry up with the distribution suggestions.
Hello, can you please convert or talk about other riders around the world in kilometres per hour as well, also, weights etc in metric. It's not just all about the US of A hopefully, you sell these bikes around the world, although at present with Mr. PUTIN killing innocents in the Ukraine, I am somewhat dubious about riding a Russian bike around at present in case someone torches it. As per this video they need to be bumped up to 850cc with a fifth gear, the four gear ratio is not enough. I have a 2009 carburettor, this bike has been reliable, but to buy new I will wait until, if ever, they make an 850 with a fifth gear. Still love my bike though.
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As a new Ural owner, these videos are a fantastic reference library. Huge thanks from England.
Driver... 180 lbs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Great video, I can't tell you how many overloaded Urals I have seen at rallies.
This is great, thank you! I understood the pitfalls of an unbalanced load but to see it demonstrated really cemented it home.
Glad it was helpful John, I never know if anybody will get anything out of these videos or not, appreciate you taking time to comment.
@@davidwaynegeorge2292 Could you possibly do a video on replacing steering head bearings? I own a 2012 Patrol. Malcolm in Manilla in New South Wales Australia
Although I watch all of your videos, when I saw this, I thought - I know all of this stuff and have taken long trips with enough provisions to last months. You know what? It was a superb video! Although all of the stuff I haul is probably 60lbs max, it was great to see what happens when you load incorrectly. I totally agree with the wind drag part too, since it degrades fuel mileage significantly. Thank you, David, for the great instructions!
Wow, thank you! Really appreciate the compliment Alan.
Great video. Great demonstration. I’m convinced.
BTW, I bought my Ural from you 2 years ago. Still enjoying it, going camping this week with my dog.
Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to comment, motivates me to keep making more videos. Apologize for the late reply, hope the camping with your dog was a good trip!
Great video. I have known people that have done long trips on 250cc bikes, like you stated it's knowing your bike and being smart. I did a 900 mile trip on my 2019 Gear Up with no problems, I got 34-46mpg on the trip. It was done in over 90 degree weather. Bump up the engine to 900cc and add a fith gear, you would have no worries about going on any long trips. Love your videos, keep them going.
Scott Evans totally agree with bumping up to 900 cc and modernising the gear box. Mine sounds 1940. Also beef up the final drive. That said nothing is as much fun on wheels.
Thank you and well said Scott! Good to hear your rig is treating you right. As for displacement and gearing we can't promise anything, but we are always trying to make Ural better since we took the reins back in the early 2000's. The difference even in the last 2-3 years is so evident when I get on our old 2010 shop mule Gear-up. Even though most of us have been doing this day in and day out for oh so many years we still get excited with every change and improvement when it finally gets past the idea, R&D, planning and production stages and we finally see it materialized on a new bike. Just gives us more energy to keep going.
Love all these vids. I want one of these bikes pretty badly and have wanted one for about 5-6 years or so now. I currently live and commute in Houston and just can’t swing the extra cash for one at the moment but in a few years will be moving to Colorado and will def be getting one of these then. These videos are awesome cause they help keep me motivated and focused on that goal!
Thank you Blake! I'll keep making them as time permits to keep motivating you!
Wow!! This video is shocking! I had no idea loading wrong could end up so disastrously!! Thank you for taking the time to explain this!!
Fantastic demonstration of improper loading.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is great info even for those of us that are seasoned 2 wheeled riders. I pick up my “new to me” 2008 GUP this weekend. Thank you for putting significant time and effort into these videos.
Thank you Tim! Enjoy that new to you 2008, I'll keep putting out videos as time permits. I appreciate you watching!
Great stuff! Thanks. Please do a video where you could answer one fundamental question: why ural sidecars are so great, however, so underpowered. I've been riding sidecars for more than 10 years. 40 PS is not enough, there should be 75 at least: why don't you put a 1200cc there and that's it, we buy it and we all live happily afterwards.
Viktoras, thank you for the suggestion. I am actually trying to do a video where these questions get answered. Not sure when it might be done but stay tuned.
Nice demonstration ,thank you for such a great educated video.
I have a 2017 retro. I love the bike because I can take my dog anywhere on it and it's very cool. To me, the M-70 is a thing of beauty. I'm sorry you aren't not making it anymore but the CT and gear up are good replacements. I know that the M-70 is not built for 70mph with a full load. I didn't purchase it for that reason. Thank you very much for doing this video. It's all very common sense. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what really is all basic physics. This bike is so much fun and has so much character, but it is what it. We need to respect that. Keep building the quality product that you are currently building and you'll keep putting smiles on peoples' faces. I hope more people get exposed to this fun motorcycle. Thanks for doing what you're doing
The Retro/M-70 is also my favorite model Larry. Coming from a vintage car/motorcycle family I fell in love with the classic look. I was sad to see it go too but it was the smart move for a small volume manufacturer when comparing sales by model and the need to commit resources to improve the best selling models. Thank you for the comment and feedback too, you get it... really appreciate that.
Very informative about the loading; especially over-loading the nose. Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Important stuff indeed.
As for the wind drag from any windscreen on the side car, I am sure it would be considerably less than the drag from a passenger and no windscreen.
Straightforward and honest. Well done my friend.
Thank you for the feedback!
Thank you Mark!
Thank you for another very informative video that might actually save someone from veering into oncoming traffic due to improper set up and loading.
I hope so! Thank you for the comment.
Thank you for the feedback, I had not thought about this but your right. If it helps one person it was well worth the effort.
Merci David pour cette démonstration. Drive safely & enjoy the side-car :-)
Thank you Stephan, appreciate the comment!
I'm starting to think my next bike is going to be one of these, the off-road features look fun and being able to outfit it to look like an old military bike is just icing on the cake
The was an outstanding presentation. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Jon!
Excellent video. Food for thought for adding accessories. Their weight adds up & does effect the load on the rig. May have to reassess what I really need.
Thanks for your videos & all your thought & work producing them.
Awesome video! Thank you for the demonstrations and step-by-step explanation! Perfect timing too as the wife and I plan our first multi hour road trip. Ride safe!
Glad it was helpful!
Really glad it was helpful. You and your wife ride safe too!
I am really grateful for this video series. Great information and presentation.
Excellent safety instruction and awareness of limits of this machine
Very good
Thinking of a Ural as my next/2nd bike here in Australia.
These videos are helping learn about the bike so I’ll be ready.
Thank you for another informative and great video, David! Please keep them coming.
I will! thank you, I appreciate the encouragement.
That was some excellent information, I really liked that demo towards the end. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Another good topic, and it also confirms we have been using the rig properly..!!
Aircraft manufacturers all have to develop and publish a “weight & balance” program for Each type of aircraft they make with a Maximum weight for each station/compartment along the longitudinal & lateral axes... while the Ur-old is usually sitting on the ground, 🤷🏻♂️ all the same principles still apply. 😎👍✅
Really good stuff. Scary to see the bike tilting over👍
LOL, yes I agree! I was scared trying to do it for the camera. Glad you liked it though.
I was so glad to hear that most production and all assembly of Ural motorcycles and sidecars has been moved out of Russia and all production will be relocating as soon as possible! I can now continue with my plans to purchase a Ural motorcycle sidecar as I have been planning to do!
A historic soviet brand gone from Russia for good because of the Special Millitary Operation! I believe Russia has shot itself in both feet!
I lived in Russia for two years. Spent a lot of time in Siberia and saw these Urals being used year around. I also lived in China and witnessed the Chinese version, which in 2000 you could buy for $800 US. Great machines, very different from motorcycles but cool as hell. I will have one when I move back to the states.
Doing good work, Dave. Thank ya.
Your very welcome!
Thank you for the feedback, it's encouragement to keep making them.
Thank you for making this video. I recently had problems with my 2018 air. The two cylinder heads are leaking oil. Now I have a better idea as to how to go on a trip and not cause problems to my Ural.
Great advice! It's be nice if there was one on towing and wiring up a tow wire harness. I know not to tow alot but why have an accessory mount lol. Love my bike so far!
Amazing, if I had $20,000 and a bike licence, I would definitely be getting one of these. I get a good look once a year, at The Montreal Motor Bike Show, every year.
Thank you Christopher, appreciate the reply!
Really good video
Thanks
This video is very helpful and informative. Thank you Team Ural!
Achei uma boa aula para reforçar o aprendizado, principalmente para os NOVATOS que não tenha experiência e precisa para sentir seguro e confiantes. Excelentes apresentações
This was the best video I have seen on the Ural, thank you David. I have an older carb model that runs fine (cold nature ed) I have been thinking the Germans must be strong armed fellows as my bike always seems to want to go one way or another. Always weaseling with it.
Hello Jim, this is an nearly 68 years, 6ft, 185lbs german grandad writing.
proud owner of a 2003 ural tourist since 2weeks now. newbie in "sidecar-ridiing".
got a hint to "read the road". again.
my "mileage" on two wheels at least half a million kilometers. familiar to read where i want to go.
sidecar riding is DIFFERENT!
the sidecar follows the direction of inherent energy.
on bended, warp roads it will be string of "mini ziggzaggs".
have fun on every mile.
my other ride is a Honda ATAS dct eera🥴
So helpful to really see what will happen! Thanks a lot!
Great job .🙂
Thanks for what I felt was a well delivered education on proper loading for safest riding. Could well be that some folks don't even consider this inescapable fact of physics until something get's dropped in their and there passengers laps. And I grieve that the side hacks under bumper got scraped
just to teach me a lesson.
very help full still thinking about buying on got test one of the back 2010 here in alaska
Glad it was helpful, you should test ride a new model! Same displacement motor but we are getting more out of it than ever before with the new EFI and other upgrades internally.
Great info! Thanks!👍👍
You bet!
Your welcome, thank you!
Great video 👍
Thank you Michel!
Great advice, well explained.
Great video ;
good video! great advice on loading smart, taking into account that this is an air-cooled lower powered bike, with some limitations to take into consideration, slow down when loaded or hot weather.
Exactly right Tom, thank you!
please enable subtitles for Spanish. It is a great help for millions of Spanish speakers who do not understand English. Business opportunity.
Cool nose dive. I have replayed it 10 times. Great video. Normally I ride the Ural with the laptop backpack and that's it, but I have full ammo box and two baraholka boxes full of stuff. Your nose dive example has reminded me the original educational video where it was suggested to place two sandbags on the floor of an empty sidecar (I think about 50 lbs) to make it more stable. So placing them on the floor should lead to the same extreme nose dive on the left turn breaking or not? I think that you should ride the sidecar with the passenger or empty, without sandbags on the floor, as combating against a flying chair on the right turns on the lower speeds is way easier than sudden nose-diving during the left turns or extreme braking. What do you think? P.S.: waiting for the preload adjustment video.
Thank you for the comments Albert, I still have the shock pre-load video on my to-do list, I'm only limited by time. It will get done though. So lets see if I can answer clearly... adding the weight for ballast is fine for new riders as they learn or even for skilled riders who want a little extra confidence around right hand turns at speed. The key is to get the ballast loaded as close to over the sidecar axle as possible. For Ural that's literally right in the passenger seat. So if that isn't an option, on the floor as close to the seat as possible is the best practice. In my example I had 60lbs. loaded way up in the nose on the floor. It was easy to get it to unload and nose dive but had the weight been pushed back just 10-12 inches towards the rear it would have been much more difficult. So don't worry about an unexpected nosedive just think logically when you load and you'll never have an issue. PLUS experienced riders can feel a weight issue within a few hundred feet of riding. So you could pull over and make a load adjustment if necessary. Hope this helps.
très bien très détaillé genial
If the Gear Up (2014 model) speedometer is to be believed, I was able to get it up to where the needle was fluttering between 75 and 80 on a flat road. I weigh about 270 and was carrying very little, and I only travelled about 40 miles. I didn't know about the weight distribution, good to know.
Great videos as always David,... a video how to setting gear selector limit and shifting gear for a 750CC will be nice , could you consider it ?
Roque, I will consider it and thank you for the suggestion. I will add it to my list and see what I can do. I can't promise when it might be done as I have many videos I'm working on at the moment.
Thank you for this effort
excellent
Good information about loading. Not something that is immediately apparent to some people. Particularly the final example of too heavy nose loading, I have seen that happen a few times at rallies. At the end of the video I noticed the shocks you have on that outfit - what type are they ?
Great Video!
A quick question: Why do you use the dry weight of the motorcycle? Here in germany, we use the "Empty weight" which is calculated by:
The wet-weight of the vehicle, + 75 Kg (~150 pounds) driver + 90% filled tank in Kg, + other required things (like the mandatory first aid kit on cars)
While the driver weight is a bit of a wierd one, as no two drivers are the same, the other stuff makes much more sense in my eye, if you want to know how much you can load unto your vehicle
i would love to have one, and yet i just cant afford. one day, who knows. thank for informative demo.
Great video, but if the rims are out of round or warped/weakened due to one or more loose/misadjusted spokes, then you're gonna eventually have problems.-John in Texas
So if the spare tire, luggage rake and full jerry can consume some of the weight capacity, does their placement in the aft portion of the sidecar count against the recommended max 20% of load in that area of the car? If I have no additional objects in the side car, just the mounted accessories, have I already violated the 20% guideline? To keep the load spread correctly, should I alway be running with 70% ballast in the sidecar seat? I believe most experienced riders eventually remove the ballast.
Any guidelines on max loads to be placed directly behind the rider rather than a passenger on a bench or enduro seat?
One of the available accessories is a "Luggage Rack for Behind Rear seat". What are the recommended loads for using that?
The accessory items do subtract from the available payload capacity, just as fuel and other fluids do. I mentioned this in the video because folks have brought up that our dry weight differs from the actual weight. The dry weight specification is from certification with no fluids or accessories, just a bare bones bike and sidecar. However a factory accessorized Gear-up 2WD with spare tire, luggage rack, Jerry can, etc. is already considered when suggesting the 20/70/10 percentage recommendation. In the real world we all know there is never a perfectly balanced load so the recommendation is made factoring in a margin of safety. Now with everything I mentioned, all of this is majorly influenced by the riders skill level, so running with ballast is all dependent on the riders comfort level, I ALWAYS recommend ballast for new riders for at least a few weeks or months. If you have a higher level of experience than you can accommodate for the difference in handling simply with rider input. The recommendations about wind drag and taxing the motor with additional payload or in high ambient temperatures still apply even to experienced riders who seem to forget this. Hope this helps, I apologize... I try to be clear in the videos but sometimes I get tongue tied in front of the camera. If you have more questions please feel free to contact us by email at info@ural.com
@@davidwaynegeorge2292 Thank-you for the reply and clarification, David.
Great video. R there Ural riders clubs in central California and in other near by states .
Thanks, good info!
I feel like the answer in the question of why don't you do this. well It worked for the last 70 years, should be fine.
Do what David says on this one! Weight:HP ratio and aero take care of the speed thing... I stuff the light stuff in the nose. sleeping bag, thermarest (yep it fits), other sleeping stuff, middle tools (I carry a lot more than stock plus a jack, air pump, battery charger...) ice chest and contents, and alt riding gear all in middle, trunk - computer and camera crap, HD saddle bag liner I use as suit case, meds. Chair and may be tent on rack. Weight wise, matches sidecar chart... Don't over load, remember that idiot who tried to travel around the world via South East Asia a few years ago. Ignored advice from one of the est dealers period about this and broke his swing arm and frame - over loaded to the extreme. I think he stills whines about it on AV from time to time...all his fault...vent over...
ural sidecar wind screen = air brake...
Does the 2 wheel drive help with the listing/pulling on accel and braking ?
Absolutely yes
I've driven several outfits with and without 2 wheel drive .
Braking and accelerating is much more predictable with 2 wheel drive
Yes it helps because the sidecar wheel is turning at the same rate as the sidecar. The downside, it steers like a tank and wants to go straight forward. So keep it in 1WD in good traction conditions, 2WD is for fun or traction/handling in mud, snow or sand. Or if you get stuck in a precarious position 2WD can sometimes help you get un-stuck, or if your like me... allows you to get stuck worse than you would be capable of if you only had 1WD.
Hey Dave, what shocks are you running this unit? Great video!
Good eye Joey! Nobody else has asked me about those. They are prototypes we have been testing from a UK company. Check back from time to time, there will most likely be more details to offer on this shock soon, maybe even before the end of the year.
I know you have not been owner of Ural for that long but do you have access to the older more vintage Ural manuals, say of the M66 and M67 oof the late 70's early 80's ?
Does the modern URAL Gear Up spec bike permit the towing of a small trailer attached to the chassis?
Is it preferable to put the rear 20% load in the trunk instead of on the luggage rack?
I need throttle cables and a cylinder to replace the one that exploded on my 1998 year old tourist how come I can't get parts.?
That's 10MPH too few. Hopefully Ural will increase performance one day. I don't need a hayabusa, but I do need an ability to cruise at a decent highway speed with passenger & luggage, and to have a bit in reserve to overtake.
I am 3 years late to this chat. Would a Retro have the same speed ratings? I am asking because they have 18" wheels and not the 19". As far as I know the final drive ratios for the gears are the same. Would the smaller wheels reduce the top speed?
“How did the factory come up with those numbers?”…lawyers
It is said Ural will have new transmission with 5 gears forward? When?
What I meant was URAL doesn't know when we will have more displacement or 5th gear. Until such a time this is the recommendation for loading the sidecar currently in production. I apologize for any confusion.
Well, my 06 Ural Tourist has a 5 speed gearbox, 4 go frontwards, 1 goes backwards. Dats a 5 speed gearbox. Remember, it is a super fun bike to ride, not many motorcycles are as utilitarian as a Ural, and UDF is always fun!
Why not dark side the tires, using small car tires or specifically made flat tread sidecar tires? I had an old triumph and it hade a tire with a dead flat tire as like a cars tread would be. Then the maximum permissible weight would go up because car tires have a significantly higher weight limit. Sidecar tires do not roll side to side like motorcycles unless you are flying the car. Sidewall strength is the one limiting limit that is thrown in motorcyclists face if they want to go to the dark side. It is really not a factor when using the sidecar.
thank you. Could use a bigger gas tank 160 miles is just not enough.
Does the 2022 come with the nitron shocks as standard?
Those shocks......
What if I also tow a small trailer behind?
Ha ha I will buy a replacement Ural when displacement increases and gearbox gets modernised
We are not sure when that will be but when the time comes we have this documented now, we will hold you to it :)
Ural Motorcycles ha ha moment it happens let me know.
Do large dogs enjoy being a Ural passenger?
Little dog love it!
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That was scary
Can see all those Russians getting the scales out and weighing everything. Can also see them doing what I do, if it needs to come along, we load it on. Hurry up with the distribution suggestions.
Hello, can you please convert or talk about other riders around the world in kilometres per hour as well, also, weights etc in metric. It's not just all about the US of A hopefully, you sell these bikes around the world, although at present with Mr. PUTIN killing innocents in the Ukraine, I am somewhat dubious about riding a Russian bike around at present in case someone torches it. As per this video they need to be bumped up to 850cc with a fifth gear, the four gear ratio is not enough. I have a 2009 carburettor, this bike has been reliable, but to buy new I will wait until, if ever, they make an 850 with a fifth gear. Still love my bike though.
Привет, у меня есть 3 Урала 80-х годов, в хорошем состоянии. Россия, Сибирь. Могу продать, за 2000 USD
mechanical sympathy and some common sense you mean ?
Shock absorbers from china?)
wouldn't drive it faster than 45 mph anyway... :D
I really enjoyed your Load practises. I have learnt that but you have confirmed it. Jim Western Australia. 🦘.