I just want to clarify that I think golf is a great sport and wonderful when people find activities that they love! I hope no one feels like I was speaking negatively on the sport or has anxiety around their partner playing! It was meant to just be silly banter about how time consuming the sport is 💛⛳️
You give off the kindest vibe of everyone on this entire podcast, anyone saying you were malicious are just using you as a punching bag for all the crap in their lives
Not at all!! The perceptive people watching totally understood what you meant. You didn't say golfers were cheaters, but IF they decided to, they would have the biggest cop-out because of all the time golfing entails.
Cancer survivor here too, however male. OP's wife, friends and mother are just pure garbage. The daughter begging OP to give his wife a second chance has me thinking, that the wife is manipulating the daughter in order to manipulate OP, which makes her even more of a garbage person. As someone who has had a partner go through the whole cancer process with them, it wouldn't even cross my mind to want a hall pass, because I was close to death or whatever.
About the 2nd story: Why is everybody only talking about what SHE went through? HE was confronted with the possible death of his wife of over 20 years! That's traumatic too.
It’s easy for wife’s friends and relatives to care about her, because in the end it’s about *their* almost-loss of her. She could have disappeared and in the process lost a crucial part of her womanhood (saying that one loosely, since it’s not the organ that makes a woman), so for them it’s vital for her to do everything she want to “recover”, because this way her circle can feel that they will recover with her. The husband in this is forgotten, unfortunately. I think it’s equally the personal callousness and human nature. It’s easy to not pay attention to things that are good and okay, and since the husband was there the whole time and didn’t break down, wife and her circle got a feeling that he will be there no matter what. Good for him to leave. With wife having a whole cheerleading team, she can’t confront how horrible her behavior is - all she will hear is how she is in the right and how wrong her husband is. Especially with her comment about how she confidently thought that the marriage “won’t end over this”. I think with her echo chamber she forgot that she is not the only one in the marriage
I totally agree, I see people react different to cancer and death. Sometimes people in their last days can be selfish, I saw that happen a few times. But still never like this form of hedonism. but It’s so weird that her environment just all agreed with this that no one said the truth to her. She sounds like the trauma caused her personality to change and not for the better.
Thank you every time they said what she bent through I screamed what about what he’s been through yes she had cancer and struggled with that but she didn’t go through it by herself sounds to me he stood by her every step of the way probably putting on a brave face for her but also being worried that he potentially could be losing the love of his life. Then for her to turn around and disrespect him like that is so heartbreaking
This! And as someone whose dealing with possible uterine cancer myself he had to deal with everything leading up to it sexually too and didn’t seem to flinch or blink he stayed by her side and carried her when she needed it… I agree with Lauren to throw that away for an orgasm, for sex… not worth it.
as a child of someone who survived cancer (twice), I can confirm that it’s equally traumatic for everyone in the family. my mother felt no urge to cheat after getting her breast removed. and as someone who has been in a polyamorous relationship, polyamory only works if everyone in the relationship is aware and 100% comfortable with the established rules and boundaries. if you break those rules and cross those boundaries, you’re cheating, end of story.
Story 2: she thought op was so obsessed with her that he would never leave but thing about having a man that is obsessed with you is that you should NEVER take that love for granted. Imagine having a man in love with you for over 20 years and just throwing it away like it’s nothing… could never. Would never. Glad op walked away when he realized he was being taken advantage of. She took his kindness for weakness
She got greedy. The cancer made her realise she wanted to put her desires before anything else. Which is fine generally speaking. She just didn't understand that's what being single means. She looked back on every concession she's made in their marriage and lost sight on the mountain of benefits she received in return. Sad she let her friends speak louder than her husband, daughter or therapist. Fuck around and find out will feel very lonely now.
Just FYI Story 2 has more updates. Apparently the friend had convinced her to do the cheating. Hubby told all the husbands of her friends. A few of the women had actually been cheating. So others got divorced and some went into couples therapy possibly.
my mind is blown...this dude should be no where near the kid I hope the wife files what she needs to get far away from this crazy dude.@@deanna.rodrigues
He had me in the first half of the story, because honestly, if she really was his roommate, I’d agree that it’s none of his responsibility all of that stuff she was asking of him. I wasn’t ready for that plot twist 😂
Honestly, if I was his wife I'd abort his child, divorce him, and find someone who actually wants to be a partner and parent. If he doesn't want to be supportive he can be alone with *no* family.
The way I refreshed their page a million times yesterday waiting for the next episode I've never been more excited to receive a TH-cam notification lol
Story 1: That was so satisfying!!! I think he stayed with her because he is scared to lose half his business and assets when the divorce happens. He was trying to stay on her good side.
If you want an open relationship, then just ask your partner. If they say no, either stay by them and in a closed relationship or break up with them. I’m fine with having an open relationship. But cheating behind someone’s back is horrible. If you can’t be in a closed relationship without cheating, don’t be in a closed relationship.
exactly. i learned my lesson and now i have to preface to people that i would be more willing to open the relationship than if they cheat. cheating, unacceptable… communication, perfectly okay.
I had a hysterectomy at 30 years old. Yes it can feel like a blow but that is not a reason to cheat and take away your spouses agency. I can’t even imagine hurting someone like that, even when I was hurting the most. Divorce was necessary in this case because she is a selfish narcissistic waste of air.
As someone who has been cheated on and lied to in nearly every relationship; I understand Lauren’s skepticism and it sucks that it’s our first instinct to question everything because it’s real shit that has happened 😭 it’s not controlling bc it’s not something she’s actually doing/saying, she’s voicing the intrusive thoughts that do come up when thinking of that type of scenario and I 100% get it and am sorry you have to question those things as well. Sending love ❤️
As someone who has had a hysterectomy because of ovarian cancer and yes you do face your mortality. Yes you do face the death of your own womanhood. It is traumatizing and heartbreaking. But no, I would NEVER treat my partner that way. There is no excuse. She's a pos.
Honest question: how is it a death of your womanhood? Only because you cannot have children any more or does it have some other physical (hormonal??) effects?
@@MyBlackSheepa bit of both. A total hysterectomy has the effect of producing early menopause due to the fact that the ovaries are removed and you can’t naturally produce your hormones anymore, it can be really difficult to deal with that since it can have a lot of physical side effects. But also in a symbolic sense- many women tie their womanhood to their reproductive cycles. The ability to have periods, make and develop life and eventually bear that life is synonymous to womanhood traditionally. It can really shake things up when you realise that those functions are taken away from you, either through biological or medical means, i hope that makes sense!
With story one, if the mistress knew about the wife, depending on what state you live in, she can get sued as well that’s what happened to the singer Fantasia Barrino she got sued for alienation of affection
Can we PLEASE clarify that having something like a hysterectomy does NOT make you any less of a woman or "take away" your womanhood. The ability to birth doesn't give you the stamp of womanhood. There are plenty of women, including cis women who cannot give birth, yet they are still women. Love y'all!
My cousin got married at 20 and his wife was 17 1/2, they had 5 kids in 8 years and she had to have an emergency hysterectomy after the premature birth of their youngest son. It ended up being the biggest blessing because within a couple of years she was diagnosed with two auto immune diseases and probably would have continued having kids if not. They have had strains throughout with her many hospitalizations, almost losing their son twice, their daughter's diabetes diagnosis and other daughter's marriage breakdown but both were each others first and have just celebrated their 45th anniversary. I've lost both parents to cancer but can't imagine cheating because you had a hysterectomy. Yes, cancer is scary but she beat it and chose to do her own thing without even discussing it with her husband. She took her wants and ran with it.
I can’t believe the friends + fam agreed and had the bälls to confront him. I imagine those same women would be at his house w/torches if the roles were reversed.
I feel so bad for the wife in story 3. I'm 40 weeks pregnant and my fiancé has been amazing my whole pregnancy. I've had a relatively easy pregnancy and it is still the hardest thing I've ever done. This man has cleaned my puke out of the shower because he heard me throwing up while showering. He's had to put my pants on because I can't lift my leg and so many more things. He wants to go to every appointment with me, because it's OUR child.. if OP is like this during pregnancy, he's going to be useless postpartum.
I’m so happy he’s that sweet to you, but just know he may have made an enemy. Because I will definitely be holding my boyfriend to that standard whenever we have a kid lol. I’ve always grew around women that had to deal with pregnancy alone. I never even thought of the man’s role till I seen story three and your comment.
Story 4 is truly vile. OP’s husband would’ve been well aware there were cameras in the morgue and still did what he did knowing he’d get caught eventually. Also guessing he did this more than once or attempted to, which is probably why he got caught in the first place. He’s horrible; I wish the OP and her baby all the safety in the world
I heard Story #2 before. So sad, because they should have come out on the other side stronger in their relationship (like it did for the husband from the sound of it initially), but the wife threw it all away for a selfish curiosity.
For the cancer story: Her friends, her mother, and herself kept repeating, "what she is going through", "her feelings.." etc, but no one ever considered what he went through as the one being there for her through the cancer, and the thoughts he could have had of losing his wife. If she didn't know how to cope with loosing her womanhood, she should've found therapy through the hospital that helped her. Not used cheating to cope. My godmother had breast cancer, and my mom had cervical cancer, we ALL hurt. Ofc we aren't the ones with cancer, but being there and seeing what your loved one is going through IS difficult. Also- the hospitals did offer counseling for the cancer victim, AND the family.
All I gotta say Lauren, is my grandfather was a HUGE golfer, even working in the golf industry for a long time. He cheated on my grandmother (I’m pretty sure it was more than once). Nobody saw it coming.
Man I desperately wanted that wife to plan all of that only to be rejected by the coworker. I hope the guy finds someone who loves and respects him the way he deserves.
Story 2: After thinking about this one for a while, I wonder if the idea for cheating (and maybe even the Toxic Masculinity phrasing) came from the best friend. It is such a weird idea to originate from a woman in a 20+ year loving marriage. But, it could easily come from someone outside that marriage who is less devoted and wants to justify her own bad behavior by earwigging the idea into her more-faithful friend...
Story 2 is so sad 😢 my parents both passed away of cancer at age 50 and I think it about being a possible end to my life. If I’ve ever diagnosed with cancer I’d be wanting to enjoy my life WITH my husband.
The first story discussion really got to me cause I’ve been in that scenario. A couple of years ago when I was a baby streamer I met this TH-camr and started to talk to him. He introduced me to his friends , very big gaming streamers and stuff and he also used to buy me subs to flex how much money he got. I then got to know that he had a girlfriend that he lives with at the time but he would just say that they had broken up and were just living together because of covid. That he was allowed to see other people. I felt like it wasn’t really true so I contacted his girlfriend and guess what??? They were still together. Not been on a break or anything. And she was devastated. He tried to lie and call me a two faced liar and that I made the entire thing up. But after a day of fighting he came and “apologized” to me and said he would focus on fixing stuff with his girlfriend. (I wasn’t the first woman he’d tried to get with aparently) and as far as I’m aware , they’re still together till this day :/.
Story 2: that woman weaponized the cancer and used it as an excuse to cheat. Yes, she went through a lot with the cancer, but so did he, he went through the emotions of watching the love of his life fight the illness and having to come to terms that she may have died.
Story 2: immediately knew the mistress knew he's married when her husband (business man) went over there with a laptop covered in stickers, it would have been obvious to anyone that he has kids
I’m still on story 1, but some quick context: The husband likely wasn’t calling the other woman the devil. He was likely referring to The Devil. It’s a thing religious people do; they blame the devil for their bad behavior, that way they don’t have to be accountable for anything.
The very last story from the write in… I’m sobbing. I lived in a similar situation with two roommates. My grandma was dying, and then she died. Throughout this they continued to attack me and team up on me over minor issues - even if they did the same thing. It was so hard to not have a safe/comfortable place to grieve my last living grandparent. It feels suffocating in a toxic household like that.
Story 2 Update 2: The intervention is assinine. His response was great. I would have said "Unrespecfully, get out of my house before I call the police and have you forcefully removed."
The necrophilia one reminds me of a scene in the show “Better Call Saul” where he’s a defense attorney for this group of teenagers that snuck in to a morgue (I think I can’t remember the exact details) and SAed a corpse as a “joke” and recorded themselves doing it. Makes me wonder if it’s the same situation since it was an older man and because he kept saying he was “young and dumb”, plus we don’t know how he got caught so maybe he was with friends or even recorded it himself.
For the wife who had cancer. He went through a lot too! He watched the love of his life start to slowly go through something horrible. Those people are so vile. Everyones feelings are valid but cheating isn’t.
I'm a frequent watcher and wow... this might be one of my favorite episodes ever, a lot of the stories had updates that made a lot of these feel really complete, am also really looking forward to a trio episode 🥺 its been so longg
Usually people who cheat are insecure. My ex cheat on me w all my friends. Idk why but I stayed w him. I got so fed up that I cheated on him too. He was literally heart broken. More broken than I was over it. I saw him 10 years later and he told me that I ruined him and he'll never love again 🤦🏽♀️ idk what his logic is but I do know he was insecure and any girl who gave him the time of day he'd eat up the attention and let things go way too far.
That girl is using her cancer as an excuse to do bs. Just look at her actions and you'll see that her fantasy of this 1 nighter with a colleague has a higher importance to her than her 20+ years with you. You stayed and took care care of her at her worst and she can't even pay you with respect or loyalty. Stand your ground and leave her. Unless your okay with her manipulating you with her cancer.
WOW! I believe it’s story 2 with the lady that cheated on her husband because she had cancer. Well let me tell you I have the exactly same thing but never got a hysterectomy I’m going through the many surgeries needed for me to bring a child into the world but at NOOOOOO point would I ever wanna cheat on my partner that is an outrageous choice. Maybe you should have thought of that before you entered into a marriage. Some people’s ideas baffle me. I highly doubt she would feel the same way if her husband wanted that she would have been hurt so bad but just because she went though this she felt like she gets a whole new life or a new start but you forget about the family you already started wow that just sounds ridiculous smh🙄…..but aside from the crazy people of the world lol love the pod! And love your views on each story!
The husband is mad he’s not being waited on and babied by his 1950s housewife now that she’s pregnant, and that there’s any expectations of him. He paints that very clear picture when he says, she’s acting like my roommate and not my wife.
Maybe men always think about the Roman empire, but I always think about that Mel Gibson movie where his character could read women's thoughts. The idea of someone reading my thoughts crosses my mind all the time. Lol
Story two- I’m having a hysterectomy for possible cancer in two days, I’m wrestling with all of these feelings about my femininity and life and my fiancé has been rock solid next to me I agree with you Lauren I can not imagine throwing this amazing man whose held my hand through all of this away for one orgasm, the trade off is not worth it.
Fort Story #1 - Being the other woman NEVER plays out the way you think it will. First off, you are knowingly choosing to be with a known cheater, a known manipulator. Why on earth do you think that he won't turn around and do the same to you? This is not a person you can trust. I feel like the other woman in this story got some sort of validation and gratification thinking that he chose her over his wife, but that, even if it were true, would be short-lived. Now, he also knows that you're not a trustworthy person and you're in this toxic relationship where neither one of you trusts one-another. I know this because in the past, I had a guy pursue me aggressively while he was in a relationship. I was absolutely not okay with it in any way... so he broke up with her. We started dating and guess what? He cheated on me! How shocking! And I mean that in a sarcastic way. People show you who they are, so please listen to them before you commit to a life with someone who clearly doesn't respect you or them self.
For the 2nd story. My partner and I are poly (currently non practicing, this has nothing to do with our love life), that being said this is not healthy in any way. Poly relationships (or open) are built on trust, boundaries and respect, none of which she showed. My partner and I have our rules, I personally like to at least meet the person he might be with (for him this isn't an issue) and if he said "oh I met this girl and hooked up with her" without my knowledge before hand this would be a big issue for me. I do understand her "losing her womanhood" is a big deal, but she didn't have to be so toxic about it and I agree with what Morgan said on the issue. For us when we met (10+ years ago) I was very open about being poly, something he hadn't done but was more than open to, so for us we never had the discovery of it after the relationship started, but I also agree with morgan that if this starts after a relationship is founded that it shouldn't be someone that was known before. My partner and I recently talked about this when talking about the 90 fiance couple Hazel and Tirek (sp?). I found it refreshing that for the most part they seemed on the same page and rather healthy, aside from the 1st girl T tried this with was one he knew durning a break up of him and H.
My ex boyfriend still denies cheating on me despite him travelling 3 hours to my town to see my bosses daughter and I caught him at her house.. Me, my mum, and my sister went to her house to confront him after finding out he was there and he said he didn’t cheat because he didn’t sleep with her, and I had no proof that he did sleep with her😭😭😭
2:01:30 lmao when my big brother commit suicide i had “friends” telling me they “understood how i felt” because they lost a grandparent. A GRANDPARENT. everyone loses a grandparent and unless that mfer raised you or lived with you i don’t want to hear it 🗣️
Spamming the comments but for story 2, there's a podcast called "Dying for Sex", which basically it's this woman who finds out she has terminal cancer, divorces her husband and goes on this rampage of one night stands. 47:00 Lauren's "What?" 😂😂
49:26 it’s like that interview with the vampire scene where louis asks “so i can fuck whoever i want?” And lestat says “of course!” 100 times and you can tell he doesn’t mean a word of it
I have been married 33 years and had cancer twice. The first time 12 years ago, the second time 3 years ago. It was bladder cancer both times and stage 1 both times. Even though it was hard, never once did I think of cheating on my husband.
That poor husband in that second story. I went through a similar thing with my ex husband, several times. Unfortunately i am not strong and i let it happen every time, even though i knew how much it was going to hurt. So did he.
Every single time i see a video talking about this story i say the same thing and I won't apologize... Some people simply don't deserve to recover from cancer...
Husband in the first story is not about any midlife crisis or being happy. He did it as a game because he is a sociopath. This is exactly the kind of thing they do, because it's fun and they have no conscience. That's how he does it and gets away with it; he doesn't feel bad. He doesn't actually love those women, because they are incapable of love.
Hearing you say you have a fear that someone can read your thoughts made me love you even more I have never heard anyone else having that fear besides me and Lauren saying it was cool❤️ I think it also comes along with wondering other people are thinking
I just want to clarify that I think golf is a great sport and wonderful when people find activities that they love! I hope no one feels like I was speaking negatively on the sport or has anxiety around their partner playing! It was meant to just be silly banter about how time consuming the sport is 💛⛳️
It was a good laugh, Lauren, no worries. 🤣
girl don’t explain yourself to these people l!!!
You give off the kindest vibe of everyone on this entire podcast, anyone saying you were malicious are just using you as a punching bag for all the crap in their lives
Not at all!! The perceptive people watching totally understood what you meant. You didn't say golfers were cheaters, but IF they decided to, they would have the biggest cop-out because of all the time golfing entails.
Aww Lauren, you're sweet. But F those golf playing cheaters 😂
Story 2: cancer survivor here…she is using her cancer as an excuse to be an awful person. OP should walk away (written before the update was read)
Good for him!
Sounds more like a midlife crisis supported by toxic friends (I haven't heard the update yet either😂)
That was my first thought too…
OP: “What should I do besides walk away?”
Me: “No, no ‘besides’. Walk away.”
Cancer survivor here too, however male. OP's wife, friends and mother are just pure garbage. The daughter begging OP to give his wife a second chance has me thinking, that the wife is manipulating the daughter in order to manipulate OP, which makes her even more of a garbage person. As someone who has had a partner go through the whole cancer process with them, it wouldn't even cross my mind to want a hall pass, because I was close to death or whatever.
I think Morgan put it the best, she should have talked to him and not taken his choice away and rushed him into it.
About the 2nd story:
Why is everybody only talking about what SHE went through? HE was confronted with the possible death of his wife of over 20 years! That's traumatic too.
It’s easy for wife’s friends and relatives to care about her, because in the end it’s about *their* almost-loss of her. She could have disappeared and in the process lost a crucial part of her womanhood (saying that one loosely, since it’s not the organ that makes a woman), so for them it’s vital for her to do everything she want to “recover”, because this way her circle can feel that they will recover with her.
The husband in this is forgotten, unfortunately. I think it’s equally the personal callousness and human nature. It’s easy to not pay attention to things that are good and okay, and since the husband was there the whole time and didn’t break down, wife and her circle got a feeling that he will be there no matter what.
Good for him to leave. With wife having a whole cheerleading team, she can’t confront how horrible her behavior is - all she will hear is how she is in the right and how wrong her husband is. Especially with her comment about how she confidently thought that the marriage “won’t end over this”. I think with her echo chamber she forgot that she is not the only one in the marriage
I totally agree, I see people react different to cancer and death. Sometimes people in their last days can be selfish, I saw that happen a few times. But still never like this form of hedonism. but It’s so weird that her environment just all agreed with this that no one said the truth to her. She sounds like the trauma caused her personality to change and not for the better.
Thank you every time they said what she bent through I screamed what about what he’s been through yes she had cancer and struggled with that but she didn’t go through it by herself sounds to me he stood by her every step of the way probably putting on a brave face for her but also being worried that he potentially could be losing the love of his life. Then for her to turn around and disrespect him like that is so heartbreaking
This! And as someone whose dealing with possible uterine cancer myself he had to deal with everything leading up to it sexually too and didn’t seem to flinch or blink he stayed by her side and carried her when she needed it… I agree with Lauren to throw that away for an orgasm, for sex… not worth it.
as a child of someone who survived cancer (twice), I can confirm that it’s equally traumatic for everyone in the family. my mother felt no urge to cheat after getting her breast removed. and as someone who has been in a polyamorous relationship, polyamory only works if everyone in the relationship is aware and 100% comfortable with the established rules and boundaries. if you break those rules and cross those boundaries, you’re cheating, end of story.
Story 1: Bragging about being a good woman to a man you have to HIDE is crazy 😂
INSANE lol
Srsly can't fathom being THAT outta touch with reality 💀 bitch at the end of the day YOU'RE the side piece? Are you on drugs?😅
Calling the wife a gold digger and he's the one spending money on you and bought you a house.
@@feliciahorton2355
Pot calling the kettle black
That wife is such a 👸
Story 2: she thought op was so obsessed with her that he would never leave but thing about having a man that is obsessed with you is that you should NEVER take that love for granted. Imagine having a man in love with you for over 20 years and just throwing it away like it’s nothing… could never. Would never. Glad op walked away when he realized he was being taken advantage of. She took his kindness for weakness
👏🏼 yes
V much giving Vanessa and Zander if ykyk #theultimatumlesbian
She got greedy. The cancer made her realise she wanted to put her desires before anything else. Which is fine generally speaking. She just didn't understand that's what being single means. She looked back on every concession she's made in their marriage and lost sight on the mountain of benefits she received in return. Sad she let her friends speak louder than her husband, daughter or therapist. Fuck around and find out will feel very lonely now.
Just FYI Story 2 has more updates. Apparently the friend had convinced her to do the cheating. Hubby told all the husbands of her friends. A few of the women had actually been cheating. So others got divorced and some went into couples therapy possibly.
Whaaatttttttt😢. Those bitches!!!
Women are the WORST
Dang. A classic "tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who your are".
This comment needs more likes! Thanks for the update!
Woah 😮
Why do I feel like this was the best lineup of stories they’ve ever had
Damn I feel so good now 💕
ME TOO!
AGREED
literally. since chris was on i’ve been waiting for the jaw dropping juicy drama stories and this did that
I agree!!
Going from "my roommates pregnant" to "the baby is mine" to "my wife is pregnant with my child which we planned for" is WILD
My mouth is still agape
I am shook
Fr. It's almost like he expected his wife to be the exact same with a watermelon forming in her stomach
I read that post and was BLOWN AWAY. He's already such a deadbeat.
Right!
i can’t believe he called the MOTHER OF HIS CHILD his “roommate” my jaw dropped. the disrespect is beyond and disgusting
Not only the mother of his child. That’s his wife!😭
my mind is blown...this dude should be no where near the kid I hope the wife files what she needs to get far away from this crazy dude.@@deanna.rodrigues
He had me in the first half of the story, because honestly, if she really was his roommate, I’d agree that it’s none of his responsibility all of that stuff she was asking of him.
I wasn’t ready for that plot twist 😂
Honestly, if I was his wife I'd abort his child, divorce him, and find someone who actually wants to be a partner and parent. If he doesn't want to be supportive he can be alone with *no* family.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. Like I'm genuinely confused why she bred with him
Seeing this episode pop up felt like stumbling upon a bottle of water in the desert 😂 The excitement and relief is real
no seriously 😭😭
The way I refreshed their page a million times yesterday waiting for the next episode I've never been more excited to receive a TH-cam notification lol
Same!!
The golf comment was 10/10. Lauren just gets it.
YES!! I'm so glad my husband isn't a golfer. I swear we probably wouldn't be married if he was.
She’s not a golfer 😂 - I golf with my partner.
@@ErinThePsychicWitch i also golf with my boyfriend
I loveee how she constantly backtracks and tries to over explain herself but sometimes she can’t help but blurt her opinion
Being a proud side chick is insane behavior. She dug her grave though and OP is going to come out better for it
Story 1: That was so satisfying!!! I think he stayed with her because he is scared to lose half his business and assets when the divorce happens. He was trying to stay on her good side.
If you want an open relationship, then just ask your partner. If they say no, either stay by them and in a closed relationship or break up with them.
I’m fine with having an open relationship. But cheating behind someone’s back is horrible. If you can’t be in a closed relationship without cheating, don’t be in a closed relationship.
exactly. i learned my lesson and now i have to preface to people that i would be more willing to open the relationship than if they cheat. cheating, unacceptable… communication, perfectly okay.
I had a hysterectomy at 30 years old. Yes it can feel like a blow but that is not a reason to cheat and take away your spouses agency. I can’t even imagine hurting someone like that, even when I was hurting the most. Divorce was necessary in this case because she is a selfish narcissistic waste of air.
As someone who has been cheated on and lied to in nearly every relationship; I understand Lauren’s skepticism and it sucks that it’s our first instinct to question everything because it’s real shit that has happened 😭 it’s not controlling bc it’s not something she’s actually doing/saying, she’s voicing the intrusive thoughts that do come up when thinking of that type of scenario and I 100% get it and am sorry you have to question those things as well. Sending love ❤️
As someone who has had a hysterectomy because of ovarian cancer and yes you do face your mortality. Yes you do face the death of your own womanhood. It is traumatizing and heartbreaking. But no, I would NEVER treat my partner that way. There is no excuse. She's a pos.
Honest question: how is it a death of your womanhood? Only because you cannot have children any more or does it have some other physical (hormonal??) effects?
@@MyBlackSheepa bit of both. A total hysterectomy has the effect of producing early menopause due to the fact that the ovaries are removed and you can’t naturally produce your hormones anymore, it can be really difficult to deal with that since it can have a lot of physical side effects. But also in a symbolic sense- many women tie their womanhood to their reproductive cycles. The ability to have periods, make and develop life and eventually bear that life is synonymous to womanhood traditionally. It can really shake things up when you realise that those functions are taken away from you, either through biological or medical means, i hope that makes sense!
@@PersephonesWrath_Thanks!
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With story one, if the mistress knew about the wife, depending on what state you live in, she can get sued as well that’s what happened to the singer Fantasia Barrino she got sued for alienation of affection
Lauren was diabolical while reading her story, I could tell something was up with the mischievous glances she would make at Morgan 😂😂.
i read story 3 on my feed yesterday… hearing morgan say “your her roommate not her baby daddy!” and just waiting for the truth to hit
Story 2… cancer is not an excuse, she has a man good enough who actually stayed by her side. Mine left after I got chronically ill
Story 01: i hope OP takes him to the cleaners. That side bish is ending up on the streets. The way she spoke to OP made my blood boil
Same!!! I had to take a moment and breathe!!
Can we PLEASE clarify that having something like a hysterectomy does NOT make you any less of a woman or "take away" your womanhood. The ability to birth doesn't give you the stamp of womanhood. There are plenty of women, including cis women who cannot give birth, yet they are still women. Love y'all!
Story 3- it's really scary because so much domestic abuse starts in pregnancy
story 2 has me in SHOCK…… I’ve watched this podcast for forever so it’s not often that y’all shock me anymore but oh my god that woman is CRAZY
My cousin got married at 20 and his wife was 17 1/2, they had 5 kids in 8 years and she had to have an emergency hysterectomy after the premature birth of their youngest son. It ended up being the biggest blessing because within a couple of years she was diagnosed with two auto immune diseases and probably would have continued having kids if not. They have had strains throughout with her many hospitalizations, almost losing their son twice, their daughter's diabetes diagnosis and other daughter's marriage breakdown but both were each others first and have just celebrated their 45th anniversary. I've lost both parents to cancer but can't imagine cheating because you had a hysterectomy. Yes, cancer is scary but she beat it and chose to do her own thing without even discussing it with her husband. She took her wants and ran with it.
I can’t believe the friends + fam agreed and had the bälls to confront him. I imagine those same women would be at his house w/torches if the roles were reversed.
@@LLynneMa million percent
I feel so bad for the wife in story 3. I'm 40 weeks pregnant and my fiancé has been amazing my whole pregnancy. I've had a relatively easy pregnancy and it is still the hardest thing I've ever done. This man has cleaned my puke out of the shower because he heard me throwing up while showering. He's had to put my pants on because I can't lift my leg and so many more things. He wants to go to every appointment with me, because it's OUR child.. if OP is like this during pregnancy, he's going to be useless postpartum.
I’m so happy he’s that sweet to you, but just know he may have made an enemy. Because I will definitely be holding my boyfriend to that standard whenever we have a kid lol. I’ve always grew around women that had to deal with pregnancy alone. I never even thought of the man’s role till I seen story three and your comment.
Story 2: Wife is trying to manipulate him with her “requests!” That’s a terrible thing to do to your partner!
Story 4, all I can think is that poor old man! Being taken advantage of like that in death, makes me feel SICK
Lauren: wait when?
Morgan: yeah
Lauren: when??
Morgan: yeah
Story 4 is truly vile. OP’s husband would’ve been well aware there were cameras in the morgue and still did what he did knowing he’d get caught eventually. Also guessing he did this more than once or attempted to, which is probably why he got caught in the first place. He’s horrible; I wish the OP and her baby all the safety in the world
Not even through the first story yet and my initial reaction is HELL NAURRR. That house would be a pile of ashes with him in it❤
The moral of this episode is to leave people right where they got you f*cked up, no matter who they are.
I was doing dishes and I heard “tw necrophilia” and I whipped my head around in shock 😂
I heard Story #2 before. So sad, because they should have come out on the other side stronger in their relationship (like it did for the husband from the sound of it initially), but the wife threw it all away for a selfish curiosity.
For the cancer story: Her friends, her mother, and herself kept repeating, "what she is going through", "her feelings.." etc, but no one ever considered what he went through as the one being there for her through the cancer, and the thoughts he could have had of losing his wife. If she didn't know how to cope with loosing her womanhood, she should've found therapy through the hospital that helped her. Not used cheating to cope.
My godmother had breast cancer, and my mom had cervical cancer, we ALL hurt. Ofc we aren't the ones with cancer, but being there and seeing what your loved one is going through IS difficult. Also- the hospitals did offer counseling for the cancer victim, AND the family.
All I gotta say Lauren, is my grandfather was a HUGE golfer, even working in the golf industry for a long time. He cheated on my grandmother (I’m pretty sure it was more than once). Nobody saw it coming.
Man I desperately wanted that wife to plan all of that only to be rejected by the coworker. I hope the guy finds someone who loves and respects him the way he deserves.
I would kill for more on the first story. I want to hear about how those two got everything they deserve.
Story 2: After thinking about this one for a while, I wonder if the idea for cheating (and maybe even the Toxic Masculinity phrasing) came from the best friend. It is such a weird idea to originate from a woman in a 20+ year loving marriage. But, it could easily come from someone outside that marriage who is less devoted and wants to justify her own bad behavior by earwigging the idea into her more-faithful friend...
That is exactly where it came from
Story 2 is so sad 😢 my parents both passed away of cancer at age 50 and I think it about being a possible end to my life. If I’ve ever diagnosed with cancer I’d be wanting to enjoy my life WITH my husband.
The first story discussion really got to me cause I’ve been in that scenario. A couple of years ago when I was a baby streamer I met this TH-camr and started to talk to him. He introduced me to his friends , very big gaming streamers and stuff and he also used to buy me subs to flex how much money he got. I then got to know that he had a girlfriend that he lives with at the time but he would just say that they had broken up and were just living together because of covid. That he was allowed to see other people.
I felt like it wasn’t really true so I contacted his girlfriend and guess what??? They were still together. Not been on a break or anything. And she was devastated. He tried to lie and call me a two faced liar and that I made the entire thing up. But after a day of fighting he came and “apologized” to me and said he would focus on fixing stuff with his girlfriend.
(I wasn’t the first woman he’d tried to get with aparently) and as far as I’m aware , they’re still together till this day :/.
Story 2: that woman weaponized the cancer and used it as an excuse to cheat. Yes, she went through a lot with the cancer, but so did he, he went through the emotions of watching the love of his life fight the illness and having to come to terms that she may have died.
Story 2: immediately knew the mistress knew he's married when her husband (business man) went over there with a laptop covered in stickers, it would have been obvious to anyone that he has kids
I’m still on story 1, but some quick context:
The husband likely wasn’t calling the other woman the devil. He was likely referring to The Devil. It’s a thing religious people do; they blame the devil for their bad behavior, that way they don’t have to be accountable for anything.
Story 1 is giving Vigilante shit by Taylor Swift ("Now she gets the house, gets the kids, gets the pride"), you're welcome Lauren 😂
The very last story from the write in… I’m sobbing. I lived in a similar situation with two roommates. My grandma was dying, and then she died. Throughout this they continued to attack me and team up on me over minor issues - even if they did the same thing. It was so hard to not have a safe/comfortable place to grieve my last living grandparent. It feels suffocating in a toxic household like that.
Story 2 Update 2: The intervention is assinine. His response was great. I would have said "Unrespecfully, get out of my house before I call the police and have you forcefully removed."
The necrophilia one reminds me of a scene in the show “Better Call Saul” where he’s a defense attorney for this group of teenagers that snuck in to a morgue (I think I can’t remember the exact details) and SAed a corpse as a “joke” and recorded themselves doing it. Makes me wonder if it’s the same situation since it was an older man and because he kept saying he was “young and dumb”, plus we don’t know how he got caught so maybe he was with friends or even recorded it himself.
I’m scared to even be in the same
Room as a dead body man they tripping
Bagging a cheater is NOT a flex!!!! You’ll lose them how you got them! 😂
For the wife who had cancer. He went through a lot too! He watched the love of his life start to slowly go through something horrible. Those people are so vile. Everyones feelings are valid but cheating isn’t.
Know your worth… absolutely couldn’t agree more
I'm a frequent watcher and wow... this might be one of my favorite episodes ever, a lot of the stories had updates that made a lot of these feel really complete, am also really looking forward to a trio episode 🥺 its been so longg
Lauren was SPEECHLESS on the necro story!!!!!
When Morgan said she thinks about how if people can hear your thoughts and I think that all the time, while having intrusive thoughts too
I love you guys, I really enjoy listening to your podcast while I’m at work ! Thank you :)
Me watching story one being married to a pilot who’s favorite hobby is golf 😅😅😅
I was wondering where you were at! I need my favorite cleaning podcast! Love you guys
Usually people who cheat are insecure. My ex cheat on me w all my friends. Idk why but I stayed w him. I got so fed up that I cheated on him too. He was literally heart broken. More broken than I was over it. I saw him 10 years later and he told me that I ruined him and he'll never love again 🤦🏽♀️ idk what his logic is but I do know he was insecure and any girl who gave him the time of day he'd eat up the attention and let things go way too far.
That girl is using her cancer as an excuse to do bs. Just look at her actions and you'll see that her fantasy of this 1 nighter with a colleague has a higher importance to her than her 20+ years with you. You stayed and took care care of her at her worst and she can't even pay you with respect or loyalty. Stand your ground and leave her. Unless your okay with her manipulating you with her cancer.
I love when new videos come out at the perfect timing, now I can stop binging old episodes for a couple hours
just what i need to get out of this funky mood: my besties 💛
Thank you so much for the zoom of Lauren spilling on herself 😂
Story1: I hope with all my heart that OP lives in a state where she can sue the mistress for alienation of affection.
In that 1st story, I hope she gets the mistresses house in the divorce.
Story 1 WAS SO SATISFYING OMGEE
Lauren’s outfit is soooo cute
WOW! I believe it’s story 2 with the lady that cheated on her husband because she had cancer. Well let me tell you I have the exactly same thing but never got a hysterectomy I’m going through the many surgeries needed for me to bring a child into the world but at NOOOOOO point would I ever wanna cheat on my partner that is an outrageous choice. Maybe you should have thought of that before you entered into a marriage. Some people’s ideas baffle me. I highly doubt she would feel the same way if her husband wanted that she would have been hurt so bad but just because she went though this she felt like she gets a whole new life or a new start but you forget about the family you already started wow that just sounds ridiculous smh🙄…..but aside from the crazy people of the world lol love the pod! And love your views on each story!
I also worry that someone around me can secretly read minds 😂 thought I was just a weirdo
The husband is mad he’s not being waited on and babied by his 1950s housewife now that she’s pregnant, and that there’s any expectations of him. He paints that very clear picture when he says, she’s acting like my roommate and not my wife.
I literally cannot wait for the scary stories episode! I still think about the crime scene cleanup guy story every now and then :)
Maybe men always think about the Roman empire, but I always think about that Mel Gibson movie where his character could read women's thoughts. The idea of someone reading my thoughts crosses my mind all the time. Lol
Story two- I’m having a hysterectomy for possible cancer in two days, I’m wrestling with all of these feelings about my femininity and life and my fiancé has been rock solid next to me I agree with you Lauren I can not imagine throwing this amazing man whose held my hand through all of this away for one orgasm, the trade off is not worth it.
Fort Story #1 - Being the other woman NEVER plays out the way you think it will. First off, you are knowingly choosing to be with a known cheater, a known manipulator. Why on earth do you think that he won't turn around and do the same to you? This is not a person you can trust. I feel like the other woman in this story got some sort of validation and gratification thinking that he chose her over his wife, but that, even if it were true, would be short-lived. Now, he also knows that you're not a trustworthy person and you're in this toxic relationship where neither one of you trusts one-another. I know this because in the past, I had a guy pursue me aggressively while he was in a relationship. I was absolutely not okay with it in any way... so he broke up with her. We started dating and guess what? He cheated on me! How shocking! And I mean that in a sarcastic way. People show you who they are, so please listen to them before you commit to a life with someone who clearly doesn't respect you or them self.
I love how Morgan wouldn't even cut out Lauren suggesting things to cut. No cuts for Lauren.
Story 1 legit sounds like a book that could be written. And I would eat that shit up lol
Love these podcast episodes I loved forward to every video you drop
Love getting Lauren episodes!! I always click so fast!
Glad I don’t have skip another week! 😊
As an actual polyamorous person, that person commenting on the post about the hall pass was completely unhinged.
For the 2nd story. My partner and I are poly (currently non practicing, this has nothing to do with our love life), that being said this is not healthy in any way. Poly relationships (or open) are built on trust, boundaries and respect, none of which she showed. My partner and I have our rules, I personally like to at least meet the person he might be with (for him this isn't an issue) and if he said "oh I met this girl and hooked up with her" without my knowledge before hand this would be a big issue for me. I do understand her "losing her womanhood" is a big deal, but she didn't have to be so toxic about it and I agree with what Morgan said on the issue.
For us when we met (10+ years ago) I was very open about being poly, something he hadn't done but was more than open to, so for us we never had the discovery of it after the relationship started, but I also agree with morgan that if this starts after a relationship is founded that it shouldn't be someone that was known before. My partner and I recently talked about this when talking about the 90 fiance couple Hazel and Tirek (sp?). I found it refreshing that for the most part they seemed on the same page and rather healthy, aside from the 1st girl T tried this with was one he knew durning a break up of him and H.
girl the second you said necrophilia my mouth dropped
My ex boyfriend still denies cheating on me despite him travelling 3 hours to my town to see my bosses daughter and I caught him at her house.. Me, my mum, and my sister went to her house to confront him after finding out he was there and he said he didn’t cheat because he didn’t sleep with her, and I had no proof that he did sleep with her😭😭😭
I liked that Lauren told 1 stoy 🎉
2:01:30 lmao when my big brother commit suicide i had “friends” telling me they “understood how i felt” because they lost a grandparent. A GRANDPARENT. everyone loses a grandparent and unless that mfer raised you or lived with you i don’t want to hear it 🗣️
I'm sorry for your loss. I lost a grandparent to suicide but I couldn't imagine losing a sibling like that. I hope you are doing well.
Spamming the comments but for story 2, there's a podcast called "Dying for Sex", which basically it's this woman who finds out she has terminal cancer, divorces her husband and goes on this rampage of one night stands.
47:00 Lauren's "What?" 😂😂
Right when you guys were talking about spilling on yourselves I spilled on myself too 😂 Great stories yet again!
Re - the cancer one….they speak about her cancer journey as if it’s not something that he went through too…like it’s hard on partners too!
49:26 it’s like that interview with the vampire scene where louis asks “so i can fuck whoever i want?” And lestat says “of course!” 100 times and you can tell he doesn’t mean a word of it
Story four: if it was under 18 it wouldn’t be searchable so the guy had to be over 18 which is old enough
Story 1: sounds like OP owns half of the other woman’s home too
I have been married 33 years and had cancer twice. The first time 12 years ago, the second time 3 years ago. It was bladder cancer both times and stage 1 both times. Even though it was hard, never once did I think of cheating on my husband.
This episode was great. Lauren brought the tea ☕☕☕
That poor husband in that second story. I went through a similar thing with my ex husband, several times. Unfortunately i am not strong and i let it happen every time, even though i knew how much it was going to hurt. So did he.
morgan i also have that fear and it turns out it’s OCD 😂
Every single time i see a video talking about this story i say the same thing and I won't apologize... Some people simply don't deserve to recover from cancer...
Husband in the first story is not about any midlife crisis or being happy. He did it as a game because he is a sociopath. This is exactly the kind of thing they do, because it's fun and they have no conscience. That's how he does it and gets away with it; he doesn't feel bad. He doesn't actually love those women, because they are incapable of love.
Hearing you say you have a fear that someone can read your thoughts made me love you even more I have never heard anyone else having that fear besides me and Lauren saying it was cool❤️ I think it also comes along with wondering other people are thinking
I saw a clip of this on TikTok just now and I had to come and find the episode 😭 love yall
starting not to skip ads,,,, i love ur podcast so much.
i couldn't sleep without listening to your videos, can someone stopppppp me 😭
"Honey, I'm glad you're wanting to fill your life with new experiences after beating cancer. Allow me to give you another new experience: divorce."