Thanks for posting your conversion video to my p-64 review. Every shot I fired in that video was using winchester 9x19mm brass that had been sized, trimmed and converted to 9x18mm makarov using your method.
I use a .35" pilot for initial trimming. However you can use the Lee trimmer (cartridge specific to the 9x18) as long as you DO NOT FL resize after running the Parabellum through the flairing die. Once you trim then FL resize and reflair for bullet seating.
This is fantastic information! I love how easy this is to do with the most common range brass you can find, plus 9x19 casings are thicker. I have a set of 9x18 Makarov dies and will be trying this soon, so I have my skills and an abundance of ammo stockpiled for Civil War II.
I haven't reloaded yet, and I have a .30 Carbine Blackhawk that I should reload for, now I have another reason to reload, making nice Makarov rounds for my East German Makarov. Thanks, you make this look easier than I thought it was.
Try the Lee case trimmer. It's cheap and easy to use. Remember to run the 9mm NATO through the 9x18 expander die before you trimotherwise it will not fit on the trimmer pilot.
I watched this video and your other video of Basic reloading trimming pistol brass. I bought the Lee Makarov 9x18 trim length Gage and do the whole thing on my hand drill like you show on your videos. It works great!
They make a barrel for the Makarov in .380. This conversion if for those who prefer the 9x18 or who already have. Ammo is getting more expensive and a lot of people are turning to reloading/handloading to offset costs and availability.
I thought that too but it didnt happen to me i believe the strength of those little 9mm cases coupled with the lower pressure load makes it unlikely to rupture the case.
Thanks for the video- this is my understanding: #1: Neck expanding die - gets rid of Luger's taper at the neck #2: Full length sizing die - expands Luger to Mak diameter across the whole case (What's the bump you're not putting on? 2:35) + deprimes #3: Lathe - shorten 19mm to 18mm #4: Deburring #5: Priming (hand tool?) Do I need to re-flare at this point? Or is the case flared still from step 2? #6: Measure powder (vol. powder charger) #7: Seat bullet (seating die) Am I missing anything?
The 9x18 is a neat little cartridge. It is very similar in performance to the German 9mm Ultra. With ammunition costs and availability being of real concern, being able to make a cartridge is very valuable.
@NowCryHavoc Fair enough. An AK on the other hand is designed to work no matter what. It may have even been designed for steel cased ammo. Rough and rugged is a common design parameter for the Russians. For the Czech made CZ 82 though, I have to differ.
@1979rdg The whole problem is finding brass cased 9x18. Sure you can use steel case, one time use 9x18 Wolf or Ulynosk but why? Brass case ammo will always trump steel in accuracy, wildcat rounds and cost (long run).
try gunbroker its alot like ebay but for guns and gun stuff. granted all firearms must be shipped to your local FFL dealer but you can find almost anything on that site.
The range I go to or should I say I used to go to, don't even let me pick my own cartridge let alone scoping from the floor. This ammo shortage this time around is insane.
Hi,thanks for your videos!i wanted to ask u,can i shoot a .380 round with a 9mm gun?i have this doubt this i checked that a 380 round a 9x17mm round and a 9mm round is 9x19mm, so?can i shoot a .380 round with a 9mm gun or viceversa?9mm round with a 380 gun?thank u in advance for your reply.
I have always wanted to get into reloading, but thought it to be intimidating. I was wondering what you would reccomend to a poor man who would like to start reloading. My current pistol is a P-64 that takes the 9x18 you're talking about in this vid. I've also heard that some spent casings can't be relaoded due to primer problems is that the case with Makarov amunition?
wow,thanks a lot man! u really helped me out, u know a lot about guns!!!!, thanks again, i know now who to consult then hehehe. really ma, thank u again. GREAT VIDEOS! i'll give u 5 stars on everyone of them.
How would you bottleneck, or neck down, a pistol case? Lately, I've become very intrigued by some of Gary Reeder's wildcat cartridges and have the dies for them and the parent case. Specifically I'd be interested in converting a .454 Casull case into a .410 GNR.
@1979rdg $20 a box of 50 is what I pay in Portland, Oregon for Hungarian made Fiocchi which has reloadable brass cases which are loaded really on the Wimpy side 950 fps. I have worked up loads for my CZ-82 that chronograph at 1125 fps which brings the load up to +P standards which seems safe in my CZ-82 which is all steel. Do Not use anything this Hot in the Aluminum frame FEG 63 EVER! I use Accurate Arms #5 Powder and worked up .1 grain at a time shooting 10 Rounds at each step up. GO SLOW!
I am having some trouble with this. My bullets are .365 dia., and when I seat them, they "bulge out" the case badly. I corrected the problem by sanding (@ 3/4") of a 3/8" dowelrod to a close .365". I put a handle on it, and now I tap it into the cases to insure I have a straight wall. They finish product seems to be much better. I am using Lee Dies, and I have no idea why they are NOT removing the entire taper????Paul
.9mm Markarov www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/search?keywords=9x18 or here www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/search?keywords=9x18www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=%2F_%2FN-0%3FNo%3D0%26Np%3D2%26Nr%3DAND%2528p_visible%253A1%252Ccustomertypeid%253A1%2529%26Nrpp%3D96%26Ntpc%3D1%26Ntpr%3D1%26Ntt%3D9x18mm&userItemsPerPage=48
9mm is .355 ?!?! ....usually, "Yes ,,,,BUT, "Not for Russian 9x18 mm Makarov.... The Russians "had to be different" to Germany and the rest of the world when they made this cartridge... so, they made it a unique length and bullet diameter....for reasons that we "outside Russia" may never fully understand. It might have something to do with the "straight blowback/fixed barrel" design that most or all pistols in this caliber share.
J Martin I'm pretty sure they made their own cartridge specifically to be different. Looking at the time they came up with the round, it makes sense that they would make a different caliber, that in case of a conflict, the Soviet munitions could not be used by NATO.
@@liolikxxx4136 The 9x19 are a little thicker towards the head of the case. Once fired they are great. The 9x18 operates at lower pressure so the brass lasts longer. They shoot fine..
This video was very well organized in its presentation and most informative. Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. I understand the comments by some viewers that Makarov ammo may be relatively inexpensive or at least readily available in some areas. That being said, I think it is equally important to be aware of easily accomplished case conversion options such as this should this situation change (as well it might at some point in the future). At a bare minimum, it is always prudent to have a "backup plan" to better insure having a ready supply of ammunition. As regards sorting thus converted and fired brass from casually picked up 9 mm Luger cases, it is easy enough to mark the bases of the altered cases with a broad felt marker to quickly distinguish altered and non-altered cases (I routinely do this with .223/5.56 brass which I have converted to 7.62x25 Tokarev cases).
It's 8 years into the future, and the world is a complete shit show, with a diaper-wearing senile president in office, a totally rogue ATF, insane governors who don't care one bit about the constitution and radical progressive politicians at every level of government attempting to disarm the civilian population and regulate ammunition. Yep. Buy some reloading equipment while you can. And primers. Lots of primers.
Ive been reloading for over 30 years i shoot 9mm and my daughter's boyfriend just got a makorov for his first pistol now i can make up some reloads for him to use when we hit the range i will mark his shells with a x on the bottoms so i can tell them apart from my 9mms
Perhaps. I'm a stckler for precision though. I get some good results out of my 9x18mm. The real isue is again head space. The trimming not only gives the correct headspace but uniformity between rounds. I don't bother sorting the brass so I know that there are variations in case length. I eliminate that through the trimming process.
dont really need to trim 9mm brass you can just expand it and seat the bullet deep enough so that the round fits mak magazine and it works fine the slide will be slightly out of battery but 9 case head is very strong so it works.I found this out when i got tired of trimming brass.Just be sure to use mak load data not 9mm data.
@ammosmith Is it feasible to hand swage makarov bullets? I've watched your swaging videos but makarov is a little more rare that other calibers so I'm curious about the availability of dies etc for it. My cz 82 has polygonal rifling which is supposedly a no-no for cast bullets.
nice i was looking into getting a 9x18 makarov cal hand gun and this answers the question is ammo available and priced right i was looking into a cz-82 and wondering if any one has any trigger time on it and is it a good buy for self protection and plinking 5/5
so what u mean is that it cant be done ,right? i cant shoot a 9mm round on a .380 gun, right?the thing is that i want to buy a hi point CF .380...but i have a bunch of 9mm luger rounds and i wanted to know if i could still fire them on a .380
What is the best way to mark the case? I tried using a sharpie and marking the head stamp but, I noticed that it wears off or rubs off easy. Anything better? I have herd of some using nail polish but how do you keep it out of the priner pocket?
oh i see, thanks for kind reply, i understand the round would be too short, what about shooting a 9mm round in a 380 gun? would that work or the round would be too long? for just 2mm?
how can people say the 9x18 makarov ammo is hard to find or expensive, I live in southern virginia and can buy it all day long at my local wal mart for $20 a box of 50
Could you get a .350 trim mandrel and trim first? Then you could deprime/full-length-expand with the same step/die? I've never reloaded so...I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about.
Gread, gread video. Thank you. Now my friends with Makarov can start realod his own cartridges from 9x19 shells. Makarov shells for reload are really hard to find even in my country! Here in Bulgaria Makarov pistol is still prevalent handgun in the military and police structures.
It depends on the trimmer, but yes. Here's the method I use with the Lee gauge-style trimmer: 1. Full-length size and deprime w/ Makarov die. 2. Bell w/ Luger die. 3. Trim with the modified Lee Luger gauge (see below). 4. Debur 5. Bell w/ Makarov die. 6. Load By using the Lee Luger gauge and just barely belling the case, you can friction turn the inside of the case while your cutting down the overall length. Drop an M4 DIN washer (0.957mm thick) into the #19 case holder & use a power drill.
It takes the taper out of the case so it will fit over the .360" trimmer pilot otherwise it will not fit. Also if you expand it then resize it the case will come out dimensionally perfect and will not crush when a bullet is seated in to the case.
The 9x18 is a very neat little bullet. It's power falls between the .380 Auto and the 9mm Parabellum. Brass is hard to get since most of the Russian ammunition is steel cased. Making your own will reduce wear on the chamber and extractor.
No. The .38- is a straight walled case and the 9x19 is a tapered case. The 380 is a 9x17 Kurtz and that makes it 2mm shorter than the 9mm NATO so headspacing will be too far off.
Good question. I think the converted brass will last a very long time. 9x19 is designed to withstand much higher pressures I have yet to have a converted case to fail...I have some on it's 8th loading.
NO BULLSHIT this conversion WORKS. I now have in my hands a dummy round 9mm speer nickle cased marked but loaded with a hornady xtp 95 gr makarov projectile. Trimming nickle is a bit rough but this conversion is awesome. The dummy round I made dry cycles great. I can't wait to load some nickle cased 9mm makarov. plus 9x19mm brass is cheap. THANK YOU AMMOSMITH note you cant use 9mm brass that has already been sized by a 9x19mm full length sizer
Thanks! You too. Remember to mark the brass with a sharpie or something to keep it separated from regular 9mm. No sense in going through all that work to lose a bunch.
Now that Starline and a few others are offering brass it's nice. I came up with this when the pistols were first imported and I wanted to develop a load for mine.
i hand load both 9mm and 9mm makarov and some other calibers, your aproach seems quite reasonable I think I will finally be able to fabricate 9mm makarov nickle plated brass, something i have wanted to have for a long time.
You can get black brass dye at most gun stores for around $6. Or there are many other brass coloring treatments to help segregate the brass. Simply google brass coloring treatements to find a few good methods used by sculpters.
Thanks for posting your conversion video to my p-64 review. Every shot I fired in that video was using winchester 9x19mm brass that had been sized, trimmed and converted to 9x18mm makarov using your method.
I use a .35" pilot for initial trimming. However you can use the Lee trimmer (cartridge specific to the 9x18) as long as you DO NOT FL resize after running the Parabellum through the flairing die. Once you trim then FL resize and reflair for bullet seating.
This is fantastic information! I love how easy this is to do with the most common range brass you can find, plus 9x19 casings are thicker. I have a set of 9x18 Makarov dies and will be trying this soon, so I have my skills and an abundance of ammo stockpiled for Civil War II.
I try to use nickle plated brass to keep it visibly different than the 9x19mm stuff.
instaBlaster...
Very good video! I have been using Starline 9x18 Mak brass. Nice to know i can gather up all of the 9mm Luger and not have to buy anymore. Thanks!
I haven't reloaded yet, and I have a .30 Carbine Blackhawk that I should reload for, now I have another reason to reload, making nice Makarov rounds for my East German Makarov. Thanks, you make this look easier than I thought it was.
Try the Lee case trimmer. It's cheap and easy to use. Remember to run the 9mm NATO through the 9x18 expander die before you trimotherwise it will not fit on the trimmer pilot.
The brass comes off in little ribbons and the steel rounds are caliber specific mandrels.
I watched this video and your other video of Basic reloading trimming pistol brass. I bought the Lee Makarov 9x18 trim length Gage and do the whole thing on my hand drill like you show on your videos. It works great!
They make a barrel for the Makarov in .380. This conversion if for those who prefer the 9x18 or who already have. Ammo is getting more expensive and a lot of people are turning to reloading/handloading to offset costs and availability.
I thought that too but it didnt happen to me i believe the strength of those little 9mm cases coupled with the lower pressure load makes it unlikely to rupture the case.
Thanks for the video- this is my understanding:
#1: Neck expanding die - gets rid of Luger's taper at the neck
#2: Full length sizing die - expands Luger to Mak diameter across the whole case (What's the bump you're not putting on? 2:35) + deprimes
#3: Lathe - shorten 19mm to 18mm
#4: Deburring
#5: Priming (hand tool?)
Do I need to re-flare at this point? Or is the case flared still from step 2?
#6: Measure powder (vol. powder charger)
#7: Seat bullet (seating die)
Am I missing anything?
Run the case through the expander die then trim. Size the case as your last step. This should take care of the problem.
It's also wider at the base. The 9x19 operates at about 32,000psi and the 380 at about 25000psi
The 9x18 is a neat little cartridge. It is very similar in performance to the German 9mm Ultra. With ammunition costs and availability being of real concern, being able to make a cartridge is very valuable.
Outstanding video. Very concise and good terminology.
I learned! Thx
@NowCryHavoc Fair enough. An AK on the other hand is designed to work no matter what. It may have even been designed for steel cased ammo. Rough and rugged is a common design parameter for the Russians. For the Czech made CZ 82 though, I have to differ.
@1979rdg The whole problem is finding brass cased 9x18. Sure you can use steel case, one time use 9x18 Wolf or Ulynosk but why? Brass case ammo will always trump steel in accuracy, wildcat rounds and cost (long run).
Nice video, thank you.
@doug palmer not nearly as cheap as reloading with cast bullets... those guys shoot 3-4 times more for the same cost.
try gunbroker its alot like ebay but for guns and gun stuff. granted all firearms must be shipped to your local FFL dealer but you can find almost anything on that site.
@1979rdg Reloadale 9x18mm is hard to find. When you cast for it you can load a box of 50 for around $2
This got me thinking, can you do this to produce 9x19 ammo out of 9mm P.A.K. cartridges?
What do you think?
The range I go to or should I say I used to go to, don't even let me pick my own cartridge let alone scoping from the floor. This ammo shortage this time around is insane.
More than insane!!!
Berdan brass is not good to reload nor is steel or aluminum cases. Regular 9mm NATO can be converted easily. You can get started for about $150.
cool video, i reload 9mm but don't have a mak but i might get one if i could reload for it
Hi,thanks for your videos!i wanted to ask u,can i shoot a .380 round with a 9mm gun?i have this doubt this i checked that a 380 round a 9x17mm round and a 9mm round is 9x19mm, so?can i shoot a .380 round with a 9mm gun or viceversa?9mm round with a 380 gun?thank u in advance for your reply.
I have always wanted to get into reloading, but thought it to be intimidating. I was wondering what you would reccomend to a poor man who would like to start reloading. My current pistol is a P-64 that takes the 9x18 you're talking about in this vid. I've also heard that some spent casings can't be relaoded due to primer problems is that the case with Makarov amunition?
How much does all the reloading equitment cost?
wow,thanks a lot man! u really helped me out, u know a lot about guns!!!!, thanks again, i know now who to consult then hehehe. really ma, thank u again. GREAT VIDEOS! i'll give u 5 stars on everyone of them.
How would you bottleneck, or neck down, a pistol case? Lately, I've become very intrigued by some of Gary Reeder's wildcat cartridges and have the dies for them and the parent case. Specifically I'd be interested in converting a .454 Casull case into a .410 GNR.
Run it down the appropriate sizing die. Trim and neck turn as necessary.
For a basic setup with dies from Lee about $125
@1979rdg $20 a box of 50 is what I pay in Portland, Oregon for Hungarian made Fiocchi which has reloadable brass cases which are loaded really on the Wimpy side 950 fps. I have worked up loads for my CZ-82 that chronograph at 1125 fps which brings the load up to +P standards which seems safe in my CZ-82 which is all steel. Do Not use anything this Hot in the Aluminum frame FEG 63 EVER! I use Accurate Arms #5 Powder and worked up .1 grain at a time shooting 10 Rounds at each step up. GO SLOW!
Thanks!
how much does that lathe cost
Very cool 😎
Thank you. I developed this when the pistols were first being imported and brass was hard to get.
Very informative. Thanks.
Can we use brass that has not been fired? Or will the press make it explode?
You may want to stick to once fired brass. I have not tried new unfired brass for this.
@ammosmith Can i use lead bullets which made for 9x19 luger and use them for 9x18 cartrige???
which case trimmer do you recommend for this?
Thanks for the video!
WAT about 9,2 mm on top of it?
After firing the 9x19 and resizing to 9x18 Mak, after how many reloads would you say the brass should be retired?
Excellent - Thank You.
I'm wanting to get started reloading.
Which presses would you recommend, and which would you say to avoid?
@ammosmith thx for the makarov vid anyway. having trouble finding the brass
I am having some trouble with this. My bullets are .365 dia., and when I seat them, they "bulge out" the case badly. I corrected the problem by sanding (@ 3/4") of a 3/8" dowelrod to a close .365". I put a handle on it, and now I tap it into the cases to insure I have a straight wall. They finish product seems to be much better. I am using Lee Dies, and I have no idea why they are NOT removing the entire taper????Paul
You should probably be using .355 diameter
+Ahren Griffin .355" is too small for 9x18 Makarov...
.9mm Markarov www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/search?keywords=9x18 or here www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/search?keywords=9x18www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=%2F_%2FN-0%3FNo%3D0%26Np%3D2%26Nr%3DAND%2528p_visible%253A1%252Ccustomertypeid%253A1%2529%26Nrpp%3D96%26Ntpc%3D1%26Ntpr%3D1%26Ntt%3D9x18mm&userItemsPerPage=48
9mm is .355 ?!?! ....usually, "Yes ,,,,BUT, "Not for Russian 9x18 mm Makarov.... The Russians "had to be different" to Germany and the rest of the world when they made this cartridge... so, they made it a unique length and bullet diameter....for reasons that we "outside Russia" may never fully understand. It might have something to do with the "straight blowback/fixed barrel" design that most or all pistols in this caliber share.
J Martin I'm pretty sure they made their own cartridge specifically to be different. Looking at the time they came up with the round, it makes sense that they would make a different caliber, that in case of a conflict, the Soviet munitions could not be used by NATO.
@Swagman00 Thank you!!
@geiswiteb Unfortuneatly I don't own any of those calibers.
What's the mashine name 4:38 for cutting bullet?
Lyman Case Trimmer.
@@ammosmith Thank you bro!
Have you tried to shoot from the makarov gun with 9x19 remaid cartridges? They are thinner, right?
@@liolikxxx4136 The 9x19 are a little thicker towards the head of the case. Once fired they are great. The 9x18 operates at lower pressure so the brass lasts longer. They shoot fine..
@@ammosmith Thanks
Start with Lee and STAY AWAY FROM THE SMART RELOADER SHIT..it's all made in China from pot metal. Lee is a good place to start....
@sirjacobthe8 Around $45
It's practically impossible to convert 9mm Luger to 380 ACP. Their bases are radically different in size.
what?
this guy makes great videos but i just cant stand to here him talk
This video was very well organized in its presentation and most informative. Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. I understand the comments by some viewers that Makarov ammo may be relatively inexpensive or at least readily available in some areas. That being said, I think it is equally important to be aware of easily accomplished case conversion options such as this should this situation change (as well it might at some point in the future). At a bare minimum, it is always prudent to have a "backup plan" to better insure having a ready supply of ammunition. As regards sorting thus converted and fired brass from casually picked up 9 mm Luger cases, it is easy enough to mark the bases of the altered cases with a broad felt marker to quickly distinguish altered and non-altered cases (I routinely do this with .223/5.56 brass which I have converted to 7.62x25 Tokarev cases).
It's 8 years into the future, and the world is a complete shit show, with a diaper-wearing senile president in office, a totally rogue ATF, insane governors who don't care one bit about the constitution and radical progressive politicians at every level of government attempting to disarm the civilian population and regulate ammunition. Yep. Buy some reloading equipment while you can. And primers. Lots of primers.
Ive been reloading for over 30 years i shoot 9mm and my daughter's boyfriend just got a makorov for his first pistol now i can make up some reloads for him to use when we hit the range i will mark his shells with a x on the bottoms so i can tell them apart from my 9mms
Your a nice dude
@DinoPal No. The 9x19 uses a bullet of .355" diameter and the 9x18mm uses a .365"-.366" bullet. By our standars it would be a 9.3mm in all actuality.
No...the head diameter is totally different and so is the extractor groove.
Perhaps. I'm a stckler for precision though. I get some good results out of my 9x18mm. The real isue is again head space. The trimming not only gives the correct headspace but uniformity between rounds. I don't bother sorting the brass so I know that there are variations in case length. I eliminate that through the trimming process.
There are very few guns that can, one that will is the Astra Model 400 or 600. Other than that you will be taking a big risk IMHO.
You should trim the case. The bullet headspaces off the mouth of the case. If you don't you run the risk of a case rupture.
9x18 Makarov has a larger diameter than 9mm Lugar
Yes it does. 9x19 is a .355 and the 9x18 is a .365
Very interesting and informative video. I had no idea that 9mm Makarov could be made from 9mm Luger. Thanks.
And 9x18 Makarov brass can be converted to .380 ACP! But probably easier to just use 9mm Luger, as they both use the same diameter bullets.
i start first with lee makarov buldge buster kit, "punch thru die"...
It's easy but there is a learning curve.
dont really need to trim 9mm brass you can just expand it and seat the bullet deep enough so that the round fits mak magazine and it works fine the slide will be slightly out of battery but 9 case head is very strong so it works.I found this out when i got tired of trimming brass.Just be sure to use mak load data not 9mm data.
@ammosmith Is it feasible to hand swage makarov bullets? I've watched your swaging videos but makarov is a little more rare that other calibers so I'm curious about the availability of dies etc for it. My cz 82 has polygonal rifling which is supposedly a no-no for cast bullets.
nice i was looking into getting a 9x18 makarov cal hand gun and this answers the question is ammo available and priced right i was looking into a cz-82 and wondering if any one has any trigger time on it and is it a good buy for self protection and plinking 5/5
so what u mean is that it cant be done ,right? i cant shoot a 9mm round on a .380 gun, right?the thing is that i want to buy a hi point CF .380...but i have a bunch of 9mm luger rounds and i wanted to know if i could still fire them on a .380
What is the best way to mark the case? I tried using a sharpie and marking the head stamp but, I noticed that it wears off or rubs off easy. Anything better? I have herd of some using nail polish but how do you keep it out of the priner pocket?
Thank you mak ammo has become harder to find
oh i see, thanks for kind reply, i understand the round would be too short, what about shooting a 9mm round in a 380 gun? would that work or the round would be too long? for just 2mm?
any way LEE equipment can turn 9 brass into 380 brass?
how can people say the 9x18 makarov ammo is hard to find or expensive, I live in southern virginia and can buy it all day long at my local wal mart for $20 a box of 50
Could you get a .350 trim mandrel and trim first? Then you could deprime/full-length-expand with the same step/die? I've never reloaded so...I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about.
Awesome, cheaper than I thought, Thank You. How hard/easy is it to reload, I have no experience in reloading.
have you had leadding issues shooting cast lead bullets thru your pistol? im getting ready to start loading my own ammo just had that roaming over me.
Sort of like tomato then.
Can we link the equipment so that we can buy it
Any chance a cartridge case (a common size) exists that can be converted to 22 Hornet case build
Can it be trimmed to length first?
Does the bullet have to be makarov or will a regular 9mm work?
Gread, gread video. Thank you. Now my friends with Makarov can start realod his own cartridges from 9x19 shells. Makarov shells for reload are really hard to find even in my country!
Here in Bulgaria Makarov pistol is still prevalent handgun in the military and police structures.
I love mine. That is awesome to hear that they are still in use, I know they’re very reliable.
makarov 9x18 ammo is cheap and brass for $9.65 a box all day at walmart
true the trim would mean uniform crimp and better accuracy definitely.
What other dies do you need besides the standard 9 x 18 dies?
It depends on the trimmer, but yes.
Here's the method I use with the Lee gauge-style trimmer:
1. Full-length size and deprime w/ Makarov die.
2. Bell w/ Luger die.
3. Trim with the modified Lee Luger gauge (see below).
4. Debur
5. Bell w/ Makarov die.
6. Load
By using the Lee Luger gauge and just barely belling the case, you can friction turn the inside of the case while your cutting down the overall length. Drop an M4 DIN washer (0.957mm thick) into the #19 case holder & use a power drill.
You didn't mention using 9x18 dies at first.
can you do a vid for resizing 6.5 to 7.35 carcano?
Can you put a 9mm luger bullet in a makarov case?
It takes the taper out of the case so it will fit over the .360" trimmer pilot otherwise it will not fit. Also if you expand it then resize it the case will come out dimensionally perfect and will not crush when a bullet is seated in to the case.
The 9x18 is a very neat little bullet. It's power falls between the .380 Auto and the 9mm Parabellum. Brass is hard to get since most of the Russian ammunition is steel cased. Making your own will reduce wear on the chamber and extractor.
No. The .38- is a straight walled case and the 9x19 is a tapered case. The 380 is a 9x17 Kurtz and that makes it 2mm shorter than the 9mm NATO so headspacing will be too far off.
Good question. I think the converted brass will last a very long time. 9x19 is designed to withstand much higher pressures I have yet to have a converted case to fail...I have some on it's 8th loading.
NO BULLSHIT this conversion WORKS. I now have in my hands a dummy round 9mm speer nickle cased marked but loaded with a hornady xtp 95 gr makarov projectile. Trimming nickle is a bit rough but this conversion is awesome. The dummy round I made dry cycles great. I can't wait to load some nickle cased 9mm makarov. plus 9x19mm brass is cheap. THANK YOU AMMOSMITH
note you cant use 9mm brass that has already been sized by a 9x19mm full length sizer
Very Useful
Thanks for making this video
Anyone have a good way to mark 9MM Makarov to keep it identified and separate from 9 MM Luger?
I use nickel plated brass or I use a black Sharpie and put a "X" on the head of the case.
Thanks! You too. Remember to mark the brass with a sharpie or something to keep it separated from regular 9mm. No sense in going through all that work to lose a bunch.
Now that Starline and a few others are offering brass it's nice. I came up with this when the pistols were first imported and I wanted to develop a load for mine.
i hand load both 9mm and 9mm makarov and some other calibers, your aproach seems quite reasonable I think I will finally be able to fabricate 9mm makarov nickle plated brass, something i have wanted to have for a long time.
You can get black brass dye at most gun stores for around $6. Or there are many other brass coloring treatments to help segregate the brass. Simply google brass coloring treatements to find a few good methods used by sculpters.