Invisible Woman sees a lot of play right now, I only recently realized the utility of having a second "Armor" in a deck that rely on huge thing is so good. Previously she was just mostly use in Hela Discard and when she got buff, Cerebro 3.
@daethe actually PenitusVox is right. You can put down IW and then put down your Cerebro, Kazar, Blue Marvel, Onslaught, Wong, Mystique, etc. behind her so that if they do use Enchantress, they have to hit IW and can’t hit the ones you are hiding. It protects your OTHER Ongoing cards from Enchantress which is why they mentioned Ongoing decks specifically.
@@daethe No, you have taken this away from the person you were replying to. They said IW protects your ongoing from an Enchantress, you’re the one that said it screams counter me and referring to Discard decks, which was never the case. The fact of the matter is, if I have an IW with a Cerebro hidden and you play Enchantress, you are only hitting the IW and my Cerebro is safe unless you dedicate more resources. Therefore what PenitusVox said is true. You have now completely deviated from IW being the conversation to “ongoing cards can be countered”. At no point was it said the IW stops Enchantress completely or is untouchable, nor was it said the IW is the best card to use to protect your Ongoing cards. All that was said was “IW can be used in an ongoing deck to protect your cards from an Enchantress” and you seem to have taken offense or have some kind of deep seated hatred for Sue. If my opponent has to spend Enchantress and and another card to stop me, that’s better for me than just Enchantress on T6 w/o IW, guaranteeing they clear my abilities. In a card game like this, resources matter. If they are using Odin on Enchantress than it means they may not be using it on their White Panther, Silver Surfer, Hazmat, Gambit, etc. You are also speaking as if I wouldn’t also have turns to make other plays. They played Enchantress and exposed my stuff? Now I can play Goose to stop Odin, or Cosmo (the better version of IW in the context of protecting your Ongoing cards) to stop any further Reveals.
The reason why Professor X made Phoenix Force not work is because the specific text of "...etc". Since your Phoenix Force card was placed before Professor X's ability activated, it still revealed. But, the ability won't activate because "etc" also means (in this case) anything else that hasn't been resolved yet. Unfortunate.
Definitely Shuri, like turn 2 or 3 you play invisible woman, turn 4 play Shuri (not in the same field with invisible woman), turn 5 play Taskmaster (same field with invisible woman), turn 6 play Destroyer (in the same field with Shuri) Destroyer gonna have 30 power and destroy Shuri and invis woman, then Taskmaster gonna copy Destroyer power
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In the game against Mek you were right to play Phoenix Force right because you had a 50/50 of Attuma or Negasonic so you were not guaranteed 16 left, it could have been 11
I don't know your current cube count but if your infinite and not in the lower ranks if makes since you would face mostly bots right now once someone reaches infinite there basically no reason to play ladder anymore conquest is just better for rewards at this point. And even then the humans your will get are probably the people on the toilet or something that don't have the time to play a full conquest game. Though it might just be better to queue that one proving grounds match instead of ladder anyway.
I will always contend that Professor X is a stupid card. That Phoenix Force interaction is just another in a long line of frustration that Prof X inflicts.
Lmao I told Jolly about this combo on Twitter and then he tagged all the big creators with the deck and didn't tag me. Sadge moment but whatever. Been playing Mystique into invisible woman / dark dimension a lot during my time playing negative decks
I guess he countered Phoenix Force up untill last stand. He couldn’t control it anymore leading to Wolverine killing Jean Grey. But it is thematically fitting for Prof X to supress Pheonix Force. 10/10 interaction.
I mean, yes. Like 40% of my matches are bots right now. It is very important to identify them early, it should be a heuristic for everyone to ask this question at the start of each game.
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Giving the Nexus to win the game... that's gotta be one of the coolest lines I've seen in this game ever
That Mystique/Killmonger win was awesome 😂
Invisible Woman sees a lot of play right now, I only recently realized the utility of having a second "Armor" in a deck that rely on huge thing is so good. Previously she was just mostly use in Hela Discard and when she got buff, Cerebro 3.
She was always really good in Ongoing builds to hide from Enchantress, too, though primarily Ongoing decks haven't been popular for a while.
@@PenitusVox And vice versa too, hide a enchantress behind a IW. very niiiiice
@@daetheEnchantress will be activated when the game ends
@daethe actually PenitusVox is right. You can put down IW and then put down your Cerebro, Kazar, Blue Marvel, Onslaught, Wong, Mystique, etc. behind her so that if they do use Enchantress, they have to hit IW and can’t hit the ones you are hiding. It protects your OTHER Ongoing cards from Enchantress which is why they mentioned Ongoing decks specifically.
@@daethe No, you have taken this away from the person you were replying to. They said IW protects your ongoing from an Enchantress, you’re the one that said it screams counter me and referring to Discard decks, which was never the case. The fact of the matter is, if I have an IW with a Cerebro hidden and you play Enchantress, you are only hitting the IW and my Cerebro is safe unless you dedicate more resources. Therefore what PenitusVox said is true.
You have now completely deviated from IW being the conversation to “ongoing cards can be countered”. At no point was it said the IW stops Enchantress completely or is untouchable, nor was it said the IW is the best card to use to protect your Ongoing cards. All that was said was “IW can be used in an ongoing deck to protect your cards from an Enchantress” and you seem to have taken offense or have some kind of deep seated hatred for Sue.
If my opponent has to spend Enchantress and and another card to stop me, that’s better for me than just Enchantress on T6 w/o IW, guaranteeing they clear my abilities. In a card game like this, resources matter. If they are using Odin on Enchantress than it means they may not be using it on their White Panther, Silver Surfer, Hazmat, Gambit, etc.
You are also speaking as if I wouldn’t also have turns to make other plays. They played Enchantress and exposed my stuff? Now I can play Goose to stop Odin, or Cosmo (the better version of IW in the context of protecting your Ongoing cards) to stop any further Reveals.
Zabu and Shuri looks awesome in this deck too)
The reason why Professor X made Phoenix Force not work is because the specific text of "...etc". Since your Phoenix Force card was placed before Professor X's ability activated, it still revealed. But, the ability won't activate because "etc" also means (in this case) anything else that hasn't been resolved yet. Unfortunate.
And seriously- Phoenix Force shouldn’t be stopped by Prof X.
That would have put an end to the Dark Phoenix Saga pretty quickly. 😑
Phoenix got too many down size that’ s sooo annoying. I love the card but it works with too few things
Don’t have negasonic so who replace?
same here
when you get answer tell me xD
Definitely Shuri, like turn 2 or 3 you play invisible woman, turn 4 play Shuri (not in the same field with invisible woman), turn 5 play Taskmaster (same field with invisible woman), turn 6 play Destroyer (in the same field with Shuri)
Destroyer gonna have 30 power and destroy Shuri and invis woman, then Taskmaster gonna copy Destroyer power
12:48 most bots have a deck filled with random 1 cost cards and other bad cards that’s in series 1 & 2 10/10 they will always let the player win
This just isn’t true. You need to read up more on the bots in this game.
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Are you catching all them pokey mans, son?!
In the game against Mek you were right to play Phoenix Force right because you had a 50/50 of Attuma or Negasonic so you were not guaranteed 16 left, it could have been 11
Arnold voice - "It's not Attuma!"
I don't know your current cube count but if your infinite and not in the lower ranks if makes since you would face mostly bots right now once someone reaches infinite there basically no reason to play ladder anymore conquest is just better for rewards at this point. And even then the humans your will get are probably the people on the toilet or something that don't have the time to play a full conquest game. Though it might just be better to queue that one proving grounds match instead of ladder anyway.
That Phoenix force interaction is dumb. Fun deck idea, cool use of PF
Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed the massive influx of bots.
I managed to get Attuma and Phoenix Force through District X, and thanks to Shuri’s lab, was able to play a 26 power Attuma
This deck looks so fun. I wish i had Negasonic
19:28 They should really fix that interaction so it's at least thematic. Prof X doesn't stop the Phoenix Force, he lost to it in the comics right?
I will always contend that Professor X is a stupid card. That Phoenix Force interaction is just another in a long line of frustration that Prof X inflicts.
At the very least it is a bit thematic
Lmao I told Jolly about this combo on Twitter and then he tagged all the big creators with the deck and didn't tag me. Sadge moment but whatever. Been playing Mystique into invisible woman / dark dimension a lot during my time playing negative decks
But yeah the combo is rough at times, doesnt give the best winrates. But its a cool combo regardless
@@JustGavinBennettcan you link the other deck mentioned
@@conservativecarnage3783im too lazy to link for you but Dekkster did a video on it today
Maybe he didn't tag you since you know about it.
19:49 Didn't Professor X counter Phoenix in Last Stand anyway??
I guess he countered Phoenix Force up untill last stand. He couldn’t control it anymore leading to Wolverine killing Jean Grey. But it is thematically fitting for Prof X to supress Pheonix Force. 10/10 interaction.
@@daethe happens to the best of us
I think we should put out a memo to tell if it's a bot or not that everyone makes there avatar blank lol
Loving how TheJollyRoger's deck are getting the spotlight
Yeah he stole the idea but yeah "his deck"😂
@@DoowapX may i know from who he stole it?
How do you know if the foe is a bot?
Thanks for the deck idea...I've changed a few things around & works wonders 💪👏
What u change, so far it does not work too well.
This is great
> start a new game
> "is that a bot?"
I mean, yes. Like 40% of my matches are bots right now.
It is very important to identify them early, it should be a heuristic for everyone to ask this question at the start of each game.
Been waiting to see Attuma with Phoenix since it's release