The EU hate Britain but would welcome Britain back in because we were one of only a few countries putting more money into the EU than we were taking out.
Amsterdam Has a Message for Male Tourists From the U.K.: 'Stay Away' In an ad campaign aimed at British men between 18 and 35, the Dutch capital threatens fines for visitors who are looking for a “messy night.
If you pay attention to the news, multiple European leaders have all expressed support for a reentry, there have been proposals from the EU for the UK to join specific trade bloc.
This is true and in order to even start any talks you must do the following: Implement TCA and NIP, give Gibraltar back to Spain, return marbles to Greece and prepare for €. In THIS case- maybe- we would be willing to talk to you in a few decades.
@JumboGaming001 The EU is invariably polite. In contrast to some countries. But it is not in the habit to give advantages to a random third country other third countries could, rightfully so, demand as well. I, as an EU citizen, would be very sceptic towards any politician arguing for any unfair advantages given the UK.
@JumboGaming001 Yes but it is not the EU UK could be joining. The system of Pan-Euro-Mediterranean cumulation of origin allows for the application of diagonal cumulation between the EU, EFTA States, Türkiye, the countries which signed the Barcelona Declaration, the Western Balkans, the Faroe Islands and Georgia, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine. It is based on a network of Free Trade Agreements having identical origin protocols. Those origin protocols are being replaced by a reference to the Regional Convention on pan-Euro-Mediterranean preferential rules of origin (PEM Convention). The Regional Convention on pan-Euro-Mediterranean preferential rules of origin (the ‘Convention’) was signed in Brussels on 15 June 2011 and entered into force on 1 January 2012.
@ : "you must do the following: Implement TCA and NIP, give Gibraltar back to Spain, return marbles to Greece and prepare for €." I would be up for all of that - and furthermore, I'd add a referendum in Northern Ireland on Irish reunification (Northern Ireland leaving the UK) and a referendum in Scotland on Scottish independence (Scotland leaving the UK). Plus a referendum on electoral reform (scrapping the House of Lords and introducing Irish style STV as an electoral system to replace our outdated FPTP).
The fact that Johnson was the main protagonist in getting Brexit over the line says a lot. He saw it as a way of getting into power and he was totally unsuitable for the role.
@@polyphonics557 Well, yes. Apart from Truss, of course. Johnson and Truss were by any measure the most incompetent leaders this country has seen in living memory.
What do you expect? Only someone without morals would have taken on such a negative task anyhow. He knew it was bullshit and he knew that he could use the gullability of brexit voters to raise himself. He did his "British bulldog" impersonation and they absolutely loved it.... until covid showed them what kind of a person he is.
And if Non-Brexit was so good then the economies of France, Germany, etc. would clearly be outperforming the UK. They are not and likely will not. The economic benefits of the EU to the UK were grossly oversold.
@@Lawrence4000-s3k You are overlooking the central issue - there would be seamless trade for both sides. Damaging both sides helps no-one, so try again. UK GDP in Q3 2024 was 2.9% above its pre-pandemic level of Q4 2019. This compares with Eurozone GDP being 4.6% higher, with GDP in Germany only 0.1% higher.
@@davidhollins870 Well, we can have a debate about the effects of trade on the UK (hint, the trade balanced is massively unbalanced and effectively created a 'rust-belt' in the working class). Why are you referencing the eurozone? The UK is a large European country and our peers are Germany, France and Italy. We have been middle of the pack. To assume anything else would have been exceptionalism. Here are 2 stories from he Guardian just last week (you can't claim I am cherry-picking publications!) ---------------------------------------- Guardian 17 Jan The UK upgrade for this year was in contrast to the eurozone, where the IMF revised down its forecasts for growth in 2025 in Germany, France and Italy. “The UK is forecast to be the fastest growing major European economy over the next two years and the only G7 economy, apart from the US, to have its growth forecast upgraded for this year. Guardian 21 Jan The UK is the second most attractive country for investment behind the US, signalling a climb up the rankings, according to an annual survey of global business leaders by the consultancy PwC the survey of almost 5,000 chief executives from 109 countries puts the UK in second place, ahead of China, Germany and India. That marks the highest ranking for the UK in the survey’s 28-year history
I remember reading a study that indicated that older people were generally voting to leave, possibly to some sort of return to the "good old times", while younger people generally wanted to stay thinking about the long term consequences. But once again the older ones voting were in bigger numbers (also because younger people are more likely to not go to vote). Despite everything, it only won by 1-2%. If they redid the vote now, I'm sure "join back EU" would be an overwhelming "yes".
It always surprised that older people voted to leave, after two worlds wars, some of which caused by European disharmony, this was something that I could not understand. The EU is not perfect, but better than the alternative which is why I voted remain
Come on UK, just admit to yourself Brexit was a silly mistake and rejoin th EU ! We want the motherland of English and the greatest bands in history back with us.
im a truck driver, i remember back in 2016 the sheer volume of work we had was just enormous compared to what it is now ! sterling would buy us about 1.50 euro, no stamps no waiting at queues when going to Europe etc .U.K might rejoin the E.U but it s a veeery long a tedious process and our generation "millennials " will be to old to benefit the opportunities we didnt realize we had before Brexit
I'm GenZ and by majority the younger vote knew what benefits they had. Those that voted for Brexit and didn't bother to educate themselves are complete muppets. But it was the older generation screwed that us, instead of listening to those that were going to live in the future they choose foolishly. If the younger vote had more sway we wouldn't be in this crap situation.
@ Also, it is now much more difficult to get an HGV license in the UK. Not enough people employed in the DVLA. Expertise across the board - electricians - plumbers - joiners - bricklayers - plasterers - is more difficult to find in the UK since Austerity Policies were introduced. Neither the Government nor Private companies seem to be incentivised to adequately fund apprenticeships/training. & since Brexit the trades that have been trained by other countries are less keen to work in the UK.
The EU has a trade surplus with the US of 300 billion $ so Trump is going to hit it hard. The UK has a balanced trade definite with the US so a deal can be worked out. The EU is going to end up a very poor region and also without freedom of speech.
@ : Absolutely. The pound grows weaker every year - soon it will be worth less than the euro, and then there will be no point having the pound anymore.
Can you imagine a world without Brexit...No Boris Johnson, No Farage, No Mogg....Just a nation getting on with day to day life, going to work. Taking holidays, unshackled by bureaucracy. Trading with our European partners... Brexiteers put an end to that....
@@alexander211974 Nobody ever mentioned leaving the EU.....certainly not in the early part of this century. .it was never a topic of conversation anywhere...in pubs, cafe', restaurants or building site Tea huts!....and radio/TV...Now it's all one ever hears about...why ? because its ruined UK thats why...
why would we to rejoin a bloc that is cancelled election results (Romania) and wishes to ban parties in Germany, Hungary and Italy. Despite our rubbish politicians I think we would prefer our democracy, but thanks
Brexit is dying off almost as quickly as some of the elderly voters who were “persuaded” to think that it was a good idea to leave the largest trading bloc in the world to be able to eat and drink sovereignty*. * You can’t.
@Orcbotbasher: No, that would be the German dependence on Russian gas, and the French refusal to understand that a longer average human lifespan requires a higher retirement age. Neither are connected with Brexit, and both would have happened without Brexit.
I love how so many Brits are still of the opinion that the big hurdle is just them deciding they're going to just walk right back in again. Like the ex-wife couldn't possibly have a different opinion on the matter.
It has to begin with the UK wanting to rejoin (or work towards something that improves on the crap position Johnson & Sunak Govts left us in). Without that intention made known, the EU will not begin deciding whether it will invite us to do so
I think all European countries have made mistakes in the past, the UK made a mistake with Brexit but it doesn't mean that it can't be fixed by rejoining. There's nothing wrong with admitting mistakes and correcting them.
I'd think the EU might be extremely sceptical of wanting, let alone allowing, the UK to rejoin. There would have to be some very clear and binding commitments to the EU project; probably Euro adoption (a key lock in to the EU), no al-la-carte opt outs and no rebates, although as the UK economy is smaller now, the amount payable as a net contributor would arguably pro-rata be less than previously making the rebate a moot point. Key to any re-join debate would be the terms of membership. Leave/Remain was a horrendous and divisive campaign, the terms of remaining were known but no-one ever set out what leaving would actually, realistically, look like, nor it seems did they (a) expect to win or (b) have any actual joined up plans, chuck in a remain heavy gov't and civil service and it isn't surprising we're 5 years on and remain (no pun intended) without a clear vision of our place in the world and at the end of it all, what we want to be as a nation.
"The odds are in favour." From UK perspective maybe but not from EU perspective. The EU is a value based union, so economic reasons are not enough to "rejoin" when at the same time the UK still wants to stay away from further integration. We had this sh1teshow during UK's membership and we do not need or want that headache once again. Also membership conditions would be very different the next time. No opt outs, no exceptions, no rebate. How are the poll numbers if people are aware that they won't get back that sweetheart deal they once had? Certainly not as much in favour for "rejoin".
They need at least 35 years to be able to join-and probably quite a few vetos. Don't worry. Like any druggy they have the chance to hit "roc bottom" and then to give up their jingoism sniffing habit. If the a re back on ration cards, they can use the backs for their referendum. Would be only fitting.
We can't remain until the Conservative party wouldn't look to take us out when they get back into power (or if they collapse.) It wouldn't be tenable. After that point I'm pretty sure the EU would take us - our laws and cultural values are compatible (certainly compared to say Hungary) our military and intelligence services are valuable and we're a bit presence in their region. Much better to have us back in the food and happy to be there.
@@FrancesAllan-m4b I think you are overly optimistic on that. Military and intelligence don't play a role for joining the EU. The UK doesn't even meet the Copenhagen Criteria. Working on that will take at least a decade, once you put that in motion. And then it comes to a matter called trust. A lot of that has been severely damaged in recent years and it will take a long time to fully restore that. It will also take huge efforts to convince all EU members that this time you will be all in and a sincere and fully committed member. All of this is not done in a timespan of weeks or months, not even years. It takes decades.
I suspect the Tories may be the ones to eventually take us back in. Don't think it would be that soon, although it would be a shame if they didn't start to manoeuvre soon. That would blindside the current Labour lot. How on earth would they respond to that?
@ They will have to change by a lot to do that. Those people who are there now certainly cannot do such u-turn without losing their face. It will need a completely new generation of Tories.
Will the UK rejoin the EU? That's a question for the EU to answer not the UK. As it stands I don't think the EU would be interested, at least not without the UK first undertaking serious root level reform.
@@futureofgeography no we don't. There are about 53 countries in Europe and only 27 of them are in the EU. We don't have to do anything. Grow a backbone.
@ If we don't then there's basically no future for the UK as a nation, the difference between Britain and other states not in the EU is that it simply doesn't have the policies to survive by itself, Brexit was a matter of 2019, and even then there was the 2008 Financial Crash that made Britain stagnant in growth, and then in 2020 the Pandemic occurred, the reality is that Britain couldn't have picked a worse time for Brexit. I'm not saying I WANT us to be in the EU, I'm just saying it might be a necessary step.
As an ardent Remainer at the time of the referendum, and someone who would love to see us rejoin, i think politically it falls into the ‘Too difficult/contentious’ category and Labour are too frightened of re-igniting all the grief it caused at the time, even though underneath I think the vast majority of Labour supporters are pro EU. I think practically some sort of Norway/Switzerland/Turkey arrangement would be good on a sort of half way house scenario.
Wait another five years and see what happens then. More will be in favour of returning. But anyway as a Belgian I don't think the EU memberstates will let the UK back in. Not a least for the next ten years.
Brexit was a wrong decision for Britain, but it is hard to go back. The UK has also lost the advantages of being a senior member. if it tries to join now, it will not have the right to opt-out. so Britain no longer has the right to join independently from schengen and the euro.
@@RealMash This is true. But we are talking about a nation that prefers to leave the European Union when it has the advantage of less contribution to the budget, the right to use the pound sterling and the right to be exempt from the Schengen system. in a model where it does not have these advantages, it is much more difficult to make it a member of the union
@@mhl8396 The United Kingdom was a country that enjoyed the benefits of free movement but was not part of Schengen. This was because it was a senior member and therefore it was London's right to determine who could and could not enter Britain from non-Schengen areas. So that thesis of the Remain camp was coherent, it was not a paradox.
@@Swamped117 So tell us the benefits exactly? The People from the UK tend to tell us what is best for the EU. Your track record of seeing advantages is not entirely without blemish. We in the EU tend to decide for ourselves, and not believe what duplicitous countries say we have to believe.
@@anthonyrybicki1000 I know of British people who own property in Spain and voted leave, they are now moaning the can't stay in Spain as long as they used to.
How badly the case to remain was made by the Cameron team: We had all the benefits of free trade and exemption from the Euro, ever- increasing union, social chapter and Schengen. If we get free trade back we might be nearly where we were though some might not like European jurisdiction in trade matters. What a mess,thanks a £350 million Mr Bus- Burbler..
The UK will not 'rejoin' the EU; it will join the EU. Assuming the UK accepts the four freedoms, monetary union and Schengen, and assuming, of course, this is palatable to the 27 other members.
The UK needs to focus on itself for a while, there any many fundamental issues to resolve before we can go forward. I don’t see the EU as a bed of roses either with without the UK. Most European countries are struggling with the current environment whether business, political or social issues. To me the EU machine still looks like a bureaucratic nightmare when really everyone just wanted friendly cooperation.
If the opportunity presents itself and the UK doesn't take it then I think THAT will end the UK with Scotland, NI ... and possibly Wales running for the exit.
The opportunity is article 49 and Copenhagen criteria. will take you about 35 years to jin, if no countryvetoes the UK becoming a member...and you created titanic amounts of bad will by the UKs behavior...
The UK’s is, obviously, perfectly entitled to hold a referendum about ‘Rejoining the EU’ every day of the week, and twice on Sundays, if it wants to. However, please understand that no referendum in any Third Country is binding on the EU, and there is NO legal mechanism whereby an ex-member can regain its previous membership status. IF the UK wants to be taken seriously, it firstly needs to implement EVERYTHING it committed to doing when it signed and ratified the Withdrawal Agreement(WA), the Trade and Cooperation Agreement(TCA), the Northern Ireland Protocol(NIP), and the Windsor Framework. After that, it could start working on meeting the Copenhagen Criteria, which are the MINIMUM requirements for being considered for EU membership. Currently, the UK doesn’t even meet 50% of them, so there’s a wee bit of work to be done. After that’s done, the UK can submit its FOURTH membership application to the European Commission, which will decide whether, OR NOT, to recommend the UK for ‘Candidate Membership’ status. The fate of that recommendation, IF made, rests with the European Council, composed of the ELECTED Heads of State/Government of the EU’s 27 member states. Candidate Membership status requires UNANIMOUS support. It only takes one country to veto, and no justification is required. IF Candidate Membership status is gained, then the accession negotiations can begin. IF the negotiations are successfully concluded and an accession treaty is signed, it has to be ratified by the UK, and by more than 30 national and regional parliaments across the EU, as well as the European Parliament. At this point in the process of joining, a referendum might be relevant.
the main question here is, is rest of the eu really wants brits to rejoin? I just have a feeling that eu is much better without the uk. less mess and more effective work together. you guys need to think what you really want... as so far you still have no idea what's best for you. nowadays, when we see what is happening with china and usa, we all know, that having you in the eu will be a new problem. so have fun alone and fingers crossed for your success! good luck :)
Rejoining without a rebate, the pound and interest rate control would be worst off than before. I can see marginal trade improvements being negotiated but not going back soon.
In 1975, Labour wanted out because of losing economic sovereignty, the high cost of food under the Common Agricultural Policy compared to Commonwealth markets, and constraints on socialist policies by the EEC limiting the UK's ability to nationalize industries, provide state aid, and independently negotiate trade deals, conflicting with Labour's goals for economic intervention and protectionism. In 2016, the Conservatives wanted out because of sovereignty and the influence of EU regulations on financial services, worker's protection rights, and freedom of movement, conflicting with their free-market policies. So, what's new?
We were the laughing stock of Europe back then, we will be the laughing stock of Europe if we rejoin. The grass looked greener on the other side of the fence
I voted for brexit. I did not believe the tripe pushed forward by the politicians but had severereservations about how the EU was governed. However times change. Faced with an unstable, untrustworthy and not to say irrational USA we need to tie ourselves closer to Europe. If that means rejoining the EU then so be it. This should be made a priority.
There is no chance at all of the UK rejoining on the same terms we had before, that's been lost forever. It's been the absolute disaster we all knew it would, i hope Starmer can manage to repair some of the damage to our relationship with the EU.
Nothing to say we'd have to adopt the euro at all. And part of being in the EU is the free movement. We'd just need to administrate it properly. Something which Blair, Brown and sucessive tory govts failed to do
EU already talking about blackmail if we are allowed to rejoin,,fishing rights in UK waters for EU nations must be reinstated , usual give,give,give with them,people have short memories.
Any attempt at rejoining is many years ahead if at all so, what will the EU look like then and what will its application requirements be? All the EU wants from the UK for the foreseeable future is that it abides by the already existing agreements, i.e. WA, NIP and TCA. Let's see what comes out of the TCA review/audit, not renegotiation, in May 2026.
The British, including most Remainers, are only interested in restoring free trade with the EU asap. They do not share the political project behind the EU and will never give up their sterling for the euro. It is as simple as that. Let's devise a fair free trade agreement that is mutually advantageous and lets the UK be true to itself.
If the UK signs a legal-binding treaty to not ever leave the EU again unless it's forcefully disintegrated in the future somehow, they might be allowed to join.
and that would be something the UK could never accept, which is why the UK will never rejoin unless that isn't a condition, which many EU governments would refuse.
Where are Nigel Farage (who is in Elon Musk's pocket) and Boris Johnson who both arrogantly left the EU. We hear NOTHING from them. I REALLY hope the UK reunites with the EU. We need to stand together against the new threat from the US🇬🇧🇩🇰👊
Let's be kind to the Brexiters, how many have died (obviously those who died cannot respond to this poll) since the Brexit referendum in percentage terms 52-48%. John Curtice can you please provide us with the stats of the people who died since that referendum date as this is also a significant point. FYI, I voted to remain.
Yougov did a poll on the referendum eve showing voting intention by age group. Sky data exit polls from the referendum showed numbers voting by age group. These figures were good, i.e. putting them together allowed you to recreate the actual result pretty closely. And yes the older age groups voted strongly (60%) for Brexit and the youngest (73%) for Remain. You can split the population into age groups proportionally using the 2011 census ( latest available when I did my analysis back in 2016) and get actual death dates by age band from the Office of National Statistics, to show the proportion of deaths per year within each.age band. (Unsuprsingly highest amongst the oldest.) Which - assuming people die at the rate for their age band regardless of whether or how they voted, and change age bands at the normal rate - lets you calculate the vote change by attrition. I can't quickly isolate that figure because I was also phasing in projected votes from new voters, assuming they voted in the same way and at the same rate as the 2016 18-24 age group. Doing that projected that it would be about 5 years - so around 2021 - when without anyone changing their minds the Brexit majority would be lost. And honestly it wouldn't make any difference if it was 2020 or 2022, the direction is clear. Unless people change their minds, normal demographics remove the mandate quite quickly, and certainly by now. And we're not seeing anything to suggest that hasn't happened.
I hope we make progress on closing the gap. I hope we eventually rejoin the CU and SM. I hope that the EU imposes conditions to prevent the UK messing around at any point in future.
@@mwd331 It is up to all EU citizens. We have something called democracy, don't know if you heard of it? And as an EU citizen I fully support that you can join following article 49 and Copenhagen criteria. Will take you 35 years, give or take. And every democratic Government can veto you. Have fun re-applying!
@@RealMash Why are you being so hostile? I despise Brexit. You need to grow up a bit and be less smug and judgemental. By your own description, it’s not up to you actually, it’s a up to your governments to veto it.
You do not want the shady UK politicians & their unrealistic expectations back but UK membership must strengthen the EU if only strategically against incursions from both the West & the East. IMO.
@@mwd331 A Government I can vote for. I am not smug. I just am annoyed by your British arrogant assumptions and the idea to go rougshod over other peoples decisions. You assume something that is not yours to assume. Now understood? The UK lied, belittled and generally behaved terrible. And you just assume all is forgotten because you switched Government? Where were the demonstrations against a lying, insulting Government? The Uk acted, and actions have consequences. That is not smug, that is having Character.
Re-Join the Eu , 75% of people in the UK, want to re-join including all of Scotland, Stop making us poor ,Re-Join the EU . I want my EU rights back and freedom of movement back .
I think the UK will rejoin eventually. But there are still too many people in the populace who will not be budged on staying out. And that's not going to change any time soon. Education, experience of the cost, generational change, all of which are going to take years.
@@timonsolusThe longer Britain is out of the EU and doing tread deals with the rest of the world and sa your economy grows stronger and the EUs falters the people of the United Kingdom won't want to join the EU.
@@andrewkenny4633 According to the GB Think Tank, a minimum of 300 billion GB GDP loss is expected by 2035, but more according to current facts! GB has 942 bn higher GDP debt since BREXIT, guess what the reason is? GB economy would have crashed mercilessly otherwise!!! Since BREXIT 600 billion GB GDP loss, alo GB has sunk 1.5 trillion into the Thames with GREXIT according to GB facts! Job losses according to Khan who commissioned the study! So in your parallel universe where Earth is a cube things seem to look better.
Brexit was nerve killing for everyone but Great Britain needs to be in the EU. It's good for them and us, I like British humor and it's good for the economic and for security in Europe it is also good.
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European citizens should vote whether we want you joining or not, because you at this point would be taking the mick.
Free movement from the European Union was a wetdream for big business and the oil 🛢 for the gig economy just look at Deliveroo and just Eats Business Model based on cheap foreign Labour 😢
Does nobody realize that the terms and conditions will be completely different? No more opt-outs from the EURO and Schengen. I can just imagine the outcry at the loss of the pound. The UK is about the only country in Europe without an ID or registration scheme - a requirement if border controls fall.
German here - somehow i'm waiting for the first US American to ask for a right to stay because of an asylum claim and not use the many other chances EUrope offers for third country citizens. A wide-ranging debate in front of some EUropean judges about the political situation in the USA would be interesting. I don't expect the person claiming asylum first will not be a WASP but a member of some minority.
Brexit was the best thing to happen to the EU. It will be half a century at least before a membership application from the "United" Kingdom could be considered.
@@Meppers78 the percent of the EU budget paid by the UK was almost exactly the same as the UK percent of population. There has been no budget crisis caused by Brexit.
It doesn't matter what the UK wants, it's not up to them. There's no appetite for the UK to rejoin. The ink wouldn't be dry on the treaty before the UK was looking for opt outs and exemptions.
I just wish there could be a rational discussion on the topic. The entrenched positions on both sides with no recourse to logic or evidence are so frustrating. For me, it is as much a no brainer as it ever was. We are stronger within the without. We are not a huge empire anymore but a small island on the edge of the atlantic. Yes we cede some control in our country but we gain some control of a whole continent and the economic growth problem vanishes as imports and exports can flow again. Not to mention in healthcare where i work we can welcome back the amazing european workforce to help with nursing and care like before.
None at f this matters until all parties are in agreement on joining. The Tories need to flush the brexit wing out of its system. The EU will listen but the politics needs in the UK is the problem.
Your demands and internal debate is no problem for the EU. Stop discussing stuff yourself by dragging us into it again and agin. Get your act together, create something as complicated as a written proposal, and we can talk. But your recurring toddler tantrums get old real fast.
Poland might veto this, fearing a mass influx of cheap British labour!
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Bravo 👏 😂
Portugal already has too many of them, they have been restricted ib buying property
The EU hate Britain but would welcome Britain back in because we were one of only a few countries putting more money into the EU than we were taking out.
Amsterdam Has a Message for Male Tourists From the U.K.: 'Stay Away' In an ad campaign aimed at British men between 18 and 35, the Dutch capital threatens fines for visitors who are looking for a “messy night.
The problem is the EU may not want the headache.
If you pay attention to the news, multiple European leaders have all expressed support for a reentry, there have been proposals from the EU for the UK to join specific trade bloc.
This is true and in order to even start any talks you must do the following:
Implement TCA and NIP, give Gibraltar back to Spain, return marbles to Greece and prepare for €.
In THIS case- maybe- we would be willing to talk to you in a few decades.
@JumboGaming001 The EU is invariably polite. In contrast to some countries.
But it is not in the habit to give advantages to a random third country other third countries could, rightfully so, demand as well.
I, as an EU citizen, would be very sceptic towards any politician arguing for any unfair advantages given the UK.
@JumboGaming001 Yes but it is not the EU UK could be joining. The system of Pan-Euro-Mediterranean cumulation of origin allows for the application of diagonal cumulation between the EU, EFTA States, Türkiye, the countries which signed the Barcelona Declaration, the Western Balkans, the Faroe Islands and Georgia, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine. It is based on a network of Free Trade Agreements having identical origin protocols. Those origin protocols are being replaced by a reference to the Regional Convention on pan-Euro-Mediterranean preferential rules of origin (PEM Convention).
The Regional Convention on pan-Euro-Mediterranean preferential rules of origin (the ‘Convention’) was signed in Brussels on 15 June 2011 and entered into force on 1 January 2012.
@ : "you must do the following:
Implement TCA and NIP, give Gibraltar back to Spain, return marbles to Greece and prepare for €."
I would be up for all of that - and furthermore, I'd add a referendum in Northern Ireland on Irish reunification (Northern Ireland leaving the UK) and a referendum in Scotland on Scottish independence (Scotland leaving the UK).
Plus a referendum on electoral reform (scrapping the House of Lords and introducing Irish style STV as an electoral system to replace our outdated FPTP).
The fact that Johnson was the main protagonist in getting Brexit over the line says a lot. He saw it as a way of getting into power and he was totally unsuitable for the role.
Because everybody who has been in power since (and specifically in power now) have been Soooo much better than Boris.
@@polyphonics557 Well, yes. Apart from Truss, of course. Johnson and Truss were by any measure the most incompetent leaders this country has seen in living memory.
What do you expect? Only someone without morals would have taken on such a negative task anyhow. He knew it was bullshit and he knew that he could use the gullability of brexit voters to raise himself. He did his "British bulldog" impersonation and they absolutely loved it.... until covid showed them what kind of a person he is.
@@polyphonics557Starmer has done more in 7 months than Johnson did in 2 years soooo....
@timmurphy5541 covid showed him to be a politician like wvery other politician Timmy across Europe, except in Sweden yeah??
If brexit was so good, then brexiteers would not need to defend it.
Nor deny that it had been implemented.
And if Non-Brexit was so good then the economies of France, Germany, etc. would clearly be outperforming the UK. They are not and likely will not. The economic benefits of the EU to the UK were grossly oversold.
@@Lawrence4000-s3k You are overlooking the central issue - there would be seamless trade for both sides. Damaging both sides helps no-one, so try again.
UK GDP in Q3 2024 was 2.9% above its pre-pandemic level of Q4 2019. This compares with Eurozone GDP being 4.6% higher, with GDP in Germany only 0.1% higher.
@@davidhollins870 Well, we can have a debate about the effects of trade on the UK (hint, the trade balanced is massively unbalanced and effectively created a 'rust-belt' in the working class).
Why are you referencing the eurozone? The UK is a large European country and our peers are Germany, France and Italy. We have been middle of the pack. To assume anything else would have been exceptionalism.
Here are 2 stories from he Guardian just last week (you can't claim I am cherry-picking publications!)
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Guardian 17 Jan
The UK upgrade for this year was in contrast to the eurozone, where the IMF revised down its forecasts for growth in 2025 in Germany, France and Italy.
“The UK is forecast to be the fastest growing major European economy over the next two years and the only G7 economy, apart from the US, to have its growth forecast upgraded for this year.
Guardian 21 Jan
The UK is the second most attractive country for investment behind the US, signalling a climb up the rankings, according to an annual survey of global business leaders by the consultancy PwC
the survey of almost 5,000 chief executives from 109 countries puts the UK in second place, ahead of China, Germany and India.
That marks the highest ranking for the UK in the survey’s 28-year history
Brexit was never implemented
I remember reading a study that indicated that older people were generally voting to leave, possibly to some sort of return to the "good old times", while younger people generally wanted to stay thinking about the long term consequences. But once again the older ones voting were in bigger numbers (also because younger people are more likely to not go to vote). Despite everything, it only won by 1-2%.
If they redid the vote now, I'm sure "join back EU" would be an overwhelming "yes".
no it wouldn't
The ones that could not be arsed to vote are as guilty as the fools voting for Brexit.
@@MSDosPrompt Ohhh, yes it would!
I am older as many of my friends are. We all voted Remain. We weren't hoodwinked by ghastly BJ or NF
It always surprised that older people voted to leave, after two worlds wars, some of which caused by European disharmony, this was something that I could not understand. The EU is not perfect, but better than the alternative which is why I voted remain
Come on UK, just admit to yourself Brexit was a silly mistake and rejoin th EU !
We want the motherland of English and the greatest bands in history back with us.
im a truck driver, i remember back in 2016 the sheer volume of work we had was just enormous compared to what it is now ! sterling would buy us about 1.50 euro, no stamps no waiting at queues when going to Europe etc .U.K might rejoin the E.U but it s a veeery long a tedious process and our generation "millennials " will be to old to benefit the opportunities we didnt realize we had before Brexit
I'm GenZ and by majority the younger vote knew what benefits they had. Those that voted for Brexit and didn't bother to educate themselves are complete muppets. But it was the older generation screwed that us, instead of listening to those that were going to live in the future they choose foolishly. If the younger vote had more sway we wouldn't be in this crap situation.
@@danspataru8273 do you remember when the exchange rate was below what it is now in 2009 to 2013. Those good old days when we were in the EU??
@@danspataru8273 truck drivers wages have also massively risen since brexit, do you remember that??
He might remember, but he's conveniently forgetting
@ Also, it is now much more difficult to get an HGV license in the UK. Not enough people employed in the DVLA. Expertise across the board - electricians - plumbers - joiners - bricklayers - plasterers - is more difficult to find in the UK since Austerity Policies were introduced. Neither the Government nor Private companies seem to be incentivised to adequately fund apprenticeships/training. & since Brexit the trades that have been trained by other countries are less keen to work in the UK.
4 more years of Trumponomics will help push the UK towards the EU😀
Yet it doesn't change a thing in the admission criteria from the EU, so it brings the UK not a single step closer to membership.
The EU has a trade surplus with the US of 300 billion $ so Trump is going to hit it hard. The UK has a balanced trade definite with the US so a deal can be worked out. The EU is going to end up a very poor region and also without freedom of speech.
Britain needs to rejoin the EU
But the EU doesn't need to have the UK back.
Who cares what Britain needs.
And join the euro?!!!! Hahahaaaa! Don't think so!
@ : Absolutely. The pound grows weaker every year - soon it will be worth less than the euro, and then there will be no point having the pound anymore.
Ireland will be the first to veto. Get your illegal colony and your Union Jack out of Ulster and then we'll see.
Can you imagine a world without Brexit...No Boris Johnson, No Farage, No Mogg....Just a nation getting on with day to day life, going to work. Taking holidays, unshackled by bureaucracy. Trading with our European partners... Brexiteers put an end to that....
Perhaps if the EU was just about trade, that wouldn't have been an issue.
@@fridriklous9177 It never was, stop complaining and stay out.
@ Please give me one benefit of staying out.....when l can think of dozens of reasons for rejoining...
Yeah good😅
@@alexander211974 Nobody ever mentioned leaving the EU.....certainly not in the early part of this century. .it was never a topic of conversation anywhere...in pubs, cafe', restaurants or building site Tea huts!....and radio/TV...Now it's all one ever hears about...why ? because its ruined UK thats why...
As a EU citizen, please report back once you understand that the EU is NOT just a trade bloc AND 75%+ support joining.
Fine exemplar of the politics of Europe.
why would we to rejoin a bloc that is cancelled election results (Romania) and wishes to ban parties in Germany, Hungary and Italy. Despite our rubbish politicians I think we would prefer our democracy, but thanks
And that's why the UK will never rejoin.
@ I'm fine with that.
BS figures pulled out of ones bottom. Its still a 50/50 shot in the dark an you know it. Lose it again and its for keeps.
Brexit is dying off almost as quickly as some of the elderly voters who were “persuaded” to think that it was a good idea to leave the largest trading bloc in the world to be able to eat and drink sovereignty*.
* You can’t.
Is Brexit to blame for the German recessions and the failing French Dictatorship?
It was their pensions what persuaded them. No need to earn a living from the sweat of their brow.
@Orcbotbasher: No, that would be the German dependence on Russian gas, and the French refusal to understand that a longer average human lifespan requires a higher retirement age.
Neither are connected with Brexit, and both would have happened without Brexit.
@Orcbotbasheryour use of the ‘word’ dictatorship in relation to France shows that you’re well and truly down the rabbit hole.
@Orcbotbasher "French dictatorship" 😅 Is that what Fartage and his cronies are peddling to you people now? You're so easily misled aren't you. 😅
I love how so many Brits are still of the opinion that the big hurdle is just them deciding they're going to just walk right back in again. Like the ex-wife couldn't possibly have a different opinion on the matter.
It has to begin with the UK wanting to rejoin (or work towards something that improves on the crap position Johnson & Sunak Govts left us in). Without that intention made known, the EU will not begin deciding whether it will invite us to do so
I think all European countries have made mistakes in the past, the UK made a mistake with Brexit but it doesn't mean that it can't be fixed by rejoining. There's nothing wrong with admitting mistakes and correcting them.
@@SuperSagittariathe EU doesn't "invite" countries to join. Countries apply following art 49.
@@havana9139 Problem bring the Uk does not admit a mistake and expects other to fix it.
That is not how that works.
Yes, British exceptionalism runs just as strong through the rejoin camp as the Brexit one.
American toxic food and pesticides banned around the world allowed in the USA
I'd think the EU might be extremely sceptical of wanting, let alone allowing, the UK to rejoin. There would have to be some very clear and binding commitments to the EU project; probably Euro adoption (a key lock in to the EU), no al-la-carte opt outs and no rebates, although as the UK economy is smaller now, the amount payable as a net contributor would arguably pro-rata be less than previously making the rebate a moot point. Key to any re-join debate would be the terms of membership. Leave/Remain was a horrendous and divisive campaign, the terms of remaining were known but no-one ever set out what leaving would actually, realistically, look like, nor it seems did they (a) expect to win or (b) have any actual joined up plans, chuck in a remain heavy gov't and civil service and it isn't surprising we're 5 years on and remain (no pun intended) without a clear vision of our place in the world and at the end of it all, what we want to be as a nation.
"The odds are in favour." From UK perspective maybe but not from EU perspective. The EU is a value based union, so economic reasons are not enough to "rejoin" when at the same time the UK still wants to stay away from further integration. We had this sh1teshow during UK's membership and we do not need or want that headache once again. Also membership conditions would be very different the next time. No opt outs, no exceptions, no rebate. How are the poll numbers if people are aware that they won't get back that sweetheart deal they once had? Certainly not as much in favour for "rejoin".
They need at least 35 years to be able to join-and probably quite a few vetos.
Don't worry.
Like any druggy they have the chance to hit "roc bottom" and then to give up their jingoism sniffing habit.
If the a re back on ration cards, they can use the backs for their referendum.
Would be only fitting.
We can't remain until the Conservative party wouldn't look to take us out when they get back into power (or if they collapse.) It wouldn't be tenable. After that point I'm pretty sure the EU would take us - our laws and cultural values are compatible (certainly compared to say Hungary) our military and intelligence services are valuable and we're a bit presence in their region. Much better to have us back in the food and happy to be there.
@@FrancesAllan-m4b I think you are overly optimistic on that. Military and intelligence don't play a role for joining the EU. The UK doesn't even meet the Copenhagen Criteria. Working on that will take at least a decade, once you put that in motion.
And then it comes to a matter called trust. A lot of that has been severely damaged in recent years and it will take a long time to fully restore that. It will also take huge efforts to convince all EU members that this time you will be all in and a sincere and fully committed member. All of this is not done in a timespan of weeks or months, not even years. It takes decades.
I suspect the Tories may be the ones to eventually take us back in. Don't think it would be that soon, although it would be a shame if they didn't start to manoeuvre soon. That would blindside the current Labour lot. How on earth would they respond to that?
@ They will have to change by a lot to do that. Those people who are there now certainly cannot do such u-turn without losing their face. It will need a completely new generation of Tories.
Will the UK rejoin the EU? That's a question for the EU to answer not the UK. As it stands I don't think the EU would be interested, at least not without the UK first undertaking serious root level reform.
It’s not on the table in the foreseeable future regardless
we don't want to be a member so that's not a question for the EU
@@fridriklous9177 Not sure about that, I think even if we don't want to we have to.
@@futureofgeography no we don't. There are about 53 countries in Europe and only 27 of them are in the EU. We don't have to do anything. Grow a backbone.
@ If we don't then there's basically no future for the UK as a nation, the difference between Britain and other states not in the EU is that it simply doesn't have the policies to survive by itself, Brexit was a matter of 2019, and even then there was the 2008 Financial Crash that made Britain stagnant in growth, and then in 2020 the Pandemic occurred, the reality is that Britain couldn't have picked a worse time for Brexit. I'm not saying I WANT us to be in the EU, I'm just saying it might be a necessary step.
It's not upto the UK to "decide" to re-join. The UK is at the back of the queue.
😂
Rejoining the EU is the best way out of this brexit mess
@SilentShadow269 Brexit is a portmanteau of Britain exit, not an anagram !
@@Jim-kt6is Well maybe not an anagram but I've never heard of a 'portmanteau'.
Along with hefty fees for rejoining and hefty subscriptions
We got a lot more out than what we put in
Stop calling your self British and if you love Europe go and live there .
As an ardent Remainer at the time of the referendum, and someone who would love to see us rejoin, i think politically it falls into the ‘Too difficult/contentious’ category and Labour are too frightened of re-igniting all the grief it caused at the time, even though underneath I think the vast majority of Labour supporters are pro EU.
I think practically some sort of Norway/Switzerland/Turkey arrangement would be good on a sort of half way house scenario.
The first two aren't really possible and the third would be of questionable value
Hopefully,it’s been embarrassing!!
Self imposed disaster!
Wait another five years and see what happens then. More will be in favour of returning. But anyway as a Belgian I don't think the EU memberstates will let the UK back in. Not a least for the next ten years.
Questions, would the EU allow the UK to rejoin.
I think it would likely be a yes, but it would be without the special terms the UK used to have.
what special terms, you mean wheere we paid in more than we got back?
@@chrimbus71 Oh my, a brexiteer that still believes the lies. You're a good illustration of why the UK will not be welcome by all.
It will be half a century before we can consider an application from the "United" Kingdom.
@@chrimbus71 deluded till the end
@@fintonmainz7845 not true
Quick reminder: ‘We send the EU £350 million a week, let’s fund our NHS instead. Vote leave.‘ 💁
Brexit was a wrong decision for Britain, but it is hard to go back. The UK has also lost the advantages of being a senior member. if it tries to join now, it will not have the right to opt-out. so Britain no longer has the right to join independently from schengen and the euro.
So? It is an appllicant like all the others, no matter how special they deem themselves.
@@RealMash This is true. But we are talking about a nation that prefers to leave the European Union when it has the advantage of less contribution to the budget, the right to use the pound sterling and the right to be exempt from the Schengen system. in a model where it does not have these advantages, it is much more difficult to make it a member of the union
Remain side used to always say how freedom of movement was a marvellous advantage to the UK? Why would Schengen be a bad thing?
@@mhl8396 The United Kingdom was a country that enjoyed the benefits of free movement but was not part of Schengen. This was because it was a senior member and therefore it was London's right to determine who could and could not enter Britain from non-Schengen areas. So that thesis of the Remain camp was coherent, it was not a paradox.
@ If Schengen is so bad, why does it exist? Was it forced on the countries that currently have it?
Even if this was accurate, which I see no reason to see it isn’t given the past 5 years. Why would the EU bother taking us back in?
Because it’s beneficial for everyone. This whole exercise has been detrimental to everyone on both sides of the channel.
@@Swamped117 So tell us the benefits exactly?
The People from the UK tend to tell us what is best for the EU.
Your track record of seeing advantages is not entirely without blemish.
We in the EU tend to decide for ourselves, and not believe what duplicitous countries say we have to believe.
@@RealMash frictionless trade.
Brits who travel to europe have to leave after 3 months😢
Good, that is a beginning.
All non EU traveller's have the same time limit so it isn't personal! Not a problem unless you have a second home in the EU.
@@anthonyrybicki1000 I know of British people who own property in Spain and voted leave, they are now moaning the can't stay in Spain as long as they used to.
Let's talk again in 20 years. You can fill an application and start talks to join the ongoing enlargement process then.
...if you fulfill the preconditions to apply...
You might be accepted when Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are independent. Until then, there's isn't a chance in hell.
Surely countries becoming independent is travel in the opposite direction of rejoining?
@mhl8396 maybe Wales Scotland and NI would enjoy some sovereignty
@ To then join the EU??
It's not our choice, it's up to the members of the EU to decide and I doubt they will allow us back in.
Excactly. Out means out. Or do you have any doubts the french would veto you?
F the eu
Would we be welcomed back? Scotland and Northern Ireland might, not sure about the full deal.
With the attitude shown in comments, no, not at all.
How badly the case to remain was made by the Cameron team: We had all the benefits of free trade and exemption from the Euro, ever- increasing union, social chapter and Schengen. If we get free trade back we might be nearly where we were though some might not like European jurisdiction in trade matters. What a mess,thanks a £350 million Mr Bus- Burbler..
The UK will not 'rejoin' the EU; it will join the EU. Assuming the UK accepts the four freedoms, monetary union and Schengen, and assuming, of course, this is palatable to the 27 other members.
Yes, the odds are you’ll ‘APPLY.’ Please use the correct verbiage. Of course … that will happen in a few decades.
The problem is we burnt our bridges and have little or no goodwill left. As such the EU might just say you can keep your Nigel Farage!
😂
The UK needs to focus on itself for a while, there any many fundamental issues to resolve before we can go forward. I don’t see the EU as a bed of roses either with without the UK. Most European countries are struggling with the current environment whether business, political or social issues. To me the EU machine still looks like a bureaucratic nightmare when really everyone just wanted friendly cooperation.
If the opportunity presents itself and the UK doesn't take it then I think THAT will end the UK with Scotland, NI ... and possibly Wales running for the exit.
The opportunity is article 49 and Copenhagen criteria. will take you about 35 years to jin, if no countryvetoes the UK becoming a member...and you created titanic amounts of bad will by the UKs behavior...
I hope they will let the EU people have a say… 😂
The french have a referendum. And how high is the probability they will not use the opportunity to show what they think of the British?
The UK’s is, obviously, perfectly entitled to hold a referendum about ‘Rejoining the EU’ every day of the week, and twice on Sundays, if it wants to.
However, please understand that no referendum in any Third Country is binding on the EU, and there is NO legal mechanism whereby an ex-member can regain its previous membership status.
IF the UK wants to be taken seriously, it firstly needs to implement EVERYTHING it committed to doing when it signed and ratified the Withdrawal Agreement(WA), the Trade and Cooperation Agreement(TCA), the Northern Ireland Protocol(NIP), and the Windsor Framework.
After that, it could start working on meeting the Copenhagen Criteria, which are the MINIMUM requirements for being considered for EU membership.
Currently, the UK doesn’t even meet 50% of them, so there’s a wee bit of work to be done.
After that’s done, the UK can submit its FOURTH membership application to the European Commission, which will decide whether, OR NOT, to recommend the UK for ‘Candidate Membership’ status.
The fate of that recommendation, IF made, rests with the European Council, composed of the ELECTED Heads of State/Government of the EU’s 27 member states.
Candidate Membership status requires UNANIMOUS support. It only takes one country to veto, and no justification is required.
IF Candidate Membership status is gained, then the accession negotiations can begin.
IF the negotiations are successfully concluded and an accession treaty is signed, it has to be ratified by the UK, and by more than 30 national and regional parliaments across the EU, as well as the European Parliament.
At this point in the process of joining, a referendum might be relevant.
the main question here is, is rest of the eu really wants brits to rejoin? I just have a feeling that eu is much better without the uk. less mess and more effective work together. you guys need to think what you really want... as so far you still have no idea what's best for you.
nowadays, when we see what is happening with china and usa, we all know, that having you in the eu will be a new problem.
so have fun alone and fingers crossed for your success! good luck :)
Rejoining without a rebate, the pound and interest rate control would be worst off than before. I can see marginal trade improvements being negotiated but not going back soon.
Biggest British political blunder of the century.
We'll be able to rejoin Ersamus whereby students study abroad and come back fluent in English.
In particular the english ones ;-)
We need to rejoin the EU
Here here someone who speaks some sense
In 1975, Labour wanted out because of losing economic sovereignty, the high cost of food under the Common Agricultural Policy compared to Commonwealth markets, and constraints on socialist policies by the EEC limiting the UK's ability to nationalize industries, provide state aid, and independently negotiate trade deals, conflicting with Labour's goals for economic intervention and protectionism.
In 2016, the Conservatives wanted out because of sovereignty and the influence of EU regulations on financial services, worker's protection rights, and freedom of movement, conflicting with their free-market policies.
So, what's new?
Let’s just hope they will have us back!
We were the laughing stock of Europe back then, we will be the laughing stock of Europe if we rejoin. The grass looked greener on the other side of the fence
@@Steve14psif you’re gonna be the laughing stock either way, then might as well rejoin 😂
@@communistcomputergod6449 Lesser of the two.
@@Steve14ps we were not a laughing stock. But we certainly are now.
@@communistcomputergod6449 Yup.
I voted for brexit. I did not believe the tripe pushed forward by the politicians but had severereservations about how the EU was governed. However times change. Faced with an unstable, untrustworthy and not to say irrational USA we need to tie ourselves closer to Europe. If that means rejoining the EU then so be it. This should be made a priority.
There is no chance at all of the UK rejoining on the same terms we had before, that's been lost forever. It's been the absolute disaster we all knew it would, i hope Starmer can manage to repair some of the damage to our relationship with the EU.
Re-joining assumes we’d sign up to what we had. To join now would mean Shengen, Euro and no opt outs. I just can’t see that winning in a referendum.
Nothing to say we'd have to adopt the euro at all. And part of being in the EU is the free movement. We'd just need to administrate it properly. Something which Blair, Brown and sucessive tory govts failed to do
@@braz2000 freedom of movement and a strong currency, which idiots would vote for that.
@@Soul_of_a_Robot Wrong. Euro is a condition now.
Nope 😐
As a French man no way apart from Scotland and Northern Ireland🇫🇷🏴
As An English man, please take them all😂
You frank s. All ways trying to divide the people of Britain.
That what he wanted you say European people like him want s. The British Union to end don’t rise to them we strong together
@ I think Farage achieved this,apart from that Farage doesn’t care for the Union.
EU already talking about blackmail if we are allowed to rejoin,,fishing rights in UK waters for EU nations must be reinstated , usual give,give,give with them,people have short memories.
Any attempt at rejoining is many years ahead if at all so, what will the EU look like then and what will its application requirements be? All the EU wants from the UK for the foreseeable future is that it abides by the already existing agreements, i.e. WA, NIP and TCA. Let's see what comes out of the TCA review/audit, not renegotiation, in May 2026.
The British, including most Remainers, are only interested in restoring free trade with the EU asap. They do not share the political project behind the EU and will never give up their sterling for the euro. It is as simple as that. Let's devise a fair free trade agreement that is mutually advantageous and lets the UK be true to itself.
It’s not up to you
Who would do a deal Trump he would not honour it
If the UK signs a legal-binding treaty to not ever leave the EU again unless it's forcefully disintegrated in the future somehow, they might be allowed to join.
I think a condition the EU would set if the UK were to re-join the EU would be that the UK, must drop the pound sterling, and change over to the Euro.
and that would be something the UK could never accept, which is why the UK will never rejoin unless that isn't a condition, which many EU governments would refuse.
One of the benefits of Brexit is that the UK is more multicultural and has more immigration
So true! And there is the hope the cuisine improves considerably...
Where are Nigel Farage (who is in Elon Musk's pocket) and Boris Johnson who both arrogantly left the EU.
We hear NOTHING from them.
I REALLY hope the UK reunites with the EU.
We need to stand together against the new threat from the US🇬🇧🇩🇰👊
You can apply to be a member state, there is no reunification. It is not a joining of equals...
Britain doesnt need the eu it needs to learn to become self sufficient
Let's be kind to the Brexiters, how many have died (obviously those who died cannot respond to this poll) since the Brexit referendum in percentage terms 52-48%. John Curtice can you please provide us with the stats of the people who died since that referendum date as this is also a significant point. FYI, I voted to remain.
Yougov did a poll on the referendum eve showing voting intention by age group. Sky data exit polls from the referendum showed numbers voting by age group. These figures were good, i.e. putting them together allowed you to recreate the actual result pretty closely. And yes the older age groups voted strongly (60%) for Brexit and the youngest (73%) for Remain.
You can split the population into age groups proportionally using the 2011 census ( latest available when I did my analysis back in 2016) and get actual death dates by age band from the Office of National Statistics, to show the proportion of deaths per year within each.age band. (Unsuprsingly highest amongst the oldest.)
Which - assuming people die at the rate for their age band regardless of whether or how they voted, and change age bands at the normal rate - lets you calculate the vote change by attrition. I can't quickly isolate that figure because I was also phasing in projected votes from new voters, assuming they voted in the same way and at the same rate as the 2016 18-24 age group. Doing that projected that it would be about 5 years - so around 2021 - when without anyone changing their minds the Brexit majority would be lost. And honestly it wouldn't make any difference if it was 2020 or 2022, the direction is clear. Unless people change their minds, normal demographics remove the mandate quite quickly, and certainly by now. And we're not seeing anything to suggest that hasn't happened.
I hope we make progress on closing the gap. I hope we eventually rejoin the CU and SM. I hope that the EU imposes conditions to prevent the UK messing around at any point in future.
It has. Read Article 49 and Copenhagen criteria carefully.
great love it so true
We don't want you back!
Luckily it’s not up to you.
@@mwd331 It is up to all EU citizens. We have something called democracy, don't know if you heard of it? And as an EU citizen I fully support that you can join following article 49 and Copenhagen criteria.
Will take you 35 years, give or take.
And every democratic Government can veto you.
Have fun re-applying!
@@RealMash Why are you being so hostile? I despise Brexit. You need to grow up a bit and be less smug and judgemental. By your own description, it’s not up to you actually, it’s a up to your governments to veto it.
You do not want the shady UK politicians & their unrealistic expectations back but UK membership must strengthen the EU if only strategically against incursions from both the West & the East. IMO.
@@mwd331 A Government I can vote for. I am not smug. I just am annoyed by your British arrogant assumptions and the idea to go rougshod over other peoples decisions.
You assume something that is not yours to assume. Now understood?
The UK lied, belittled and generally behaved terrible. And you just assume all is forgotten because you switched Government?
Where were the demonstrations against a lying, insulting Government?
The Uk acted, and actions have consequences.
That is not smug, that is having Character.
Re-Join the Eu , 75% of people in the UK, want to re-join including all of Scotland, Stop making us poor ,Re-Join the EU . I want my EU rights back and freedom of movement back .
I think the UK will rejoin eventually. But there are still too many people in the populace who will not be budged on staying out. And that's not going to change any time soon. Education, experience of the cost, generational change, all of which are going to take years.
It's quite literally already changed. Most the older people that voted to leave are dead.
That train has left the station
I think in this occasion, the station has left the train :P
The majority of the UK want to rejoin the EU YES 👊
57 is good, but we need at least 66% to prevent the Brexitards stirring more mischief further in the future.
@@RonaldReagan84: Agreed. 75% support in the polls would be better - 66% is a bare minimum.
@@timonsolusThe longer Britain is out of the EU and doing tread deals with the rest of the world and sa your economy grows stronger and the EUs falters the people of the United Kingdom won't want to join the EU.
@@andrewkenny4633absolute rubbish, our trade deals under the EU were better than the ones we have now. That's a fact.
@@andrewkenny4633 According to the GB Think Tank, a minimum of 300 billion GB GDP loss is expected by 2035, but more according to current facts! GB has 942 bn higher GDP debt since BREXIT, guess what the reason is? GB economy would have crashed mercilessly otherwise!!!
Since BREXIT 600 billion GB GDP loss, alo GB has sunk 1.5 trillion into the Thames with GREXIT according to GB facts! Job losses according to Khan who commissioned the study!
So in your parallel universe where Earth is a cube things seem to look better.
They won’t get the same care outs they had before. If I were the EU, I would say, they have to join the Euro, and the Schengen zone.
The EU has said so in Article 49 and the Copenhagen criteria, again and again. Only the slow learners in the UK did not get it.
Brexit was nerve killing for everyone but Great Britain needs to be in the EU. It's good for them and us, I like British humor and it's good for the economic and for security in Europe it is also good.
European citizens should vote whether we want you joining or not, because you at this point would be taking the mick.
Labour market is too small in uk
Brexit has been a disaster
Brexit is the best the UK has ever done for the EU. Happy anniversary.
@@kurtgodel5236 EU is thriving, outperming Asia, US and Russia. Oh hang on, no its not
@ So? What, if any, is your point?
Free movement from the European Union was a wetdream for big business and the oil 🛢 for the gig economy just look at Deliveroo and just Eats Business Model based on cheap foreign Labour 😢
Yes I hope
In the last Brexit referendum we were lies that are now well and trolley busted.
I VOTE TO GO BACK IN 🙏🙏🙏
The EU is doomed into poverty and without freedom of speech too. It would be wiser if the UK started its own union with Australia and NZ
Once bitten twice shy.
UK is a great country, but please let's stay apart
Only if thy let us. Problem is with idiots like Badenoch ,Farage and reluctant don’t rock the boat Starmer.
Does nobody realize that the terms and conditions will be completely different? No more opt-outs from the EURO and Schengen. I can just imagine the outcry at the loss of the pound. The UK is about the only country in Europe without an ID or registration scheme - a requirement if border controls fall.
precisely why we will never leave.
All great empires destroy themselves eventually
Trump is doing a great job of getting the UK 🇬🇧 to rejoin the EU 🇪🇺
Hopefully.
Just need freedom of movement
I'm American, so I now need asylum!! !!! Hope the UK fares well, whichever!
Come and live here in France, like many of your US countrymen and English brexit refugees.
German here - somehow i'm waiting for the first US American to ask for a right to stay because of an asylum claim and not use the many other chances EUrope offers for third country citizens.
A wide-ranging debate in front of some EUropean judges about the political situation in the USA would be interesting. I don't expect the person claiming asylum first will not be a WASP but a member of some minority.
@@ColinBarrett001 Wherever you go - learn the language first!
Get a grip.
@John-h7l9e
Their president is blaming dwarves for plane crashes and you want them to get a grip?
I would veto your coming back grz🇧🇪😃
Re-joining is the only logical option for security and economic reasons.... pretty much a no-brainer in the age of D Chump.
Nothing will happen until the headbangers pass
In EU Little Britain will be again Great Britain and EU will be also stronger.
Would the EU want them ?
No
Brexit was the best thing to happen to the EU. It will be half a century at least before a membership application from the "United" Kingdom could be considered.
Loss of a net contributor was a positive?
@@Meppers78 yep, we have Kosovo joining soon remember.
@@Meppers78 the percent of the EU budget paid by the UK was almost exactly the same as the UK percent of population.
There has been no budget crisis caused by Brexit.
@@chrimbus71 sure a country with a population of 1.5 million will cause budgetary problems for the EU
I doubt it
It doesn't matter what the UK wants, it's not up to them. There's no appetite for the UK to rejoin. The ink wouldn't be dry on the treaty before the UK was looking for opt outs and exemptions.
Nobody cares.
I just wish there could be a rational discussion on the topic.
The entrenched positions on both sides with no recourse to logic or evidence are so frustrating.
For me, it is as much a no brainer as it ever was. We are stronger within the without. We are not a huge empire anymore but a small island on the edge of the atlantic.
Yes we cede some control in our country but we gain some control of a whole continent and the economic growth problem vanishes as imports and exports can flow again.
Not to mention in healthcare where i work we can welcome back the amazing european workforce to help with nursing and care like before.
None at f this matters until all parties are in agreement on joining. The Tories need to flush the brexit wing out of its system. The EU will listen but the politics needs in the UK is the problem.
Your demands and internal debate is no problem for the EU. Stop discussing stuff yourself by dragging us into it again and agin. Get your act together, create something as complicated as a written proposal, and we can talk.
But your recurring toddler tantrums get old real fast.
Let's see if Prime Minister Farage agrees to another referendum.
Thankfully he’ll never be Prime Minister.