Nowadays there are fountain pens made to take G nibs so such modifications is unnecessary unless to it's to save money. www.parkablogs.com/content/quick-guide-osprey-pens-fountain-pens-nibs-and-nib-holders
I advise against using pliers straight on the nib and feed. Instead, get a bike tube or rubber sheet and use that to grip and pull out directly. Much safer and you'll be less likely to ruin anything. Since the feed was made to fit with the standard steel nib, it isn't made to flow fast enough to keep up with the flex. That's why it's railroading. You'll need to deepen the channels and likely remove any barriers on the converter side of the feed to allow the ink to build up instead of blocking it. Just a few thoughts for all of the folks asking about this combo.
Bazyliszek the feed channel (where the ink travel). On some feeds, there are “road blocks” built in to slow the flow of the ink so it doesn’t come gushing out. It’s better regulated. When you add flex, you have to find a balance between getting enough ink when it’s flexed and not flooding the nib when no pressure is applied.
@@g-r-a-e-m-e- Dip pens with a spring and tiny neo magnet affixed to the nib is the way to go! Less fidgeting needed and a breeze ti clean! And very little dipping needed. Fountain pens are pretty....but overhyped and over priced for the big name brands......in my opinion. Others may disagree.
4 years after the video was posted I came across this and ordered my own Jinhao x750. My pen is walking across from China (will take 2 months to get here) but the wait will be worth it.
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 - yes if you leave it for extended periods with ink on after drawing. Read all the advice on taking the original nib and feed out that you can - it is really easy to ruin the parts if you're not careful.
A small US company called Ackerman makes these sorts of pens (with an overfeed for extra ink supply) but their facebook page is full of people complaining about waiting for their order to be delivered. So I guess this video is right what I needed, cheers. edit: I just wanted to add that I've heard that the pens they make are really good, but it's no mass production, so the pens sell out and there are waiting times. You can find a couple of videos on youtube made by users, e.g. search for ackerman pump pen.
I know you are not a dip pen fan, however, there are new Zebra G nibs with a spring in the back (for dip pens only) to act as a reservoir and hold more ink. It isn't as much as a Jinhao converter can hold, of course. Just wondered if you had tried one?
Yes, this is the only site I have found them so far. www.johnnealbooks.com/prod_detail_list/calligraphy-illumination I have ordered one, but it has not arrived yet. The reviews I have read from people are favorable.
I did receive it, although haven't tried it yet. I also ordered (at the same time) a Leonardt principal nib with the spring reservoir and I did try that one. It works very well and holds a great deal more ink. I imagine the Zebra G nib will function in much the same way.
For extra fine nibs, you have to either apply very minimal force for drawing thin lines, and when drawing thicker lines you have to pull down in direction.
Is that doable with several brands of nibs? I never tried caligraphy nibs so I have no Idea if they have a "standard" size and any brand will do to attempt this.
I'm not sure of your question. There are online comments on the Jinhao pen not having good ink flow. So I probably would still recommend using the dip pen instead. Or if you have the budget, check out BlueDew fountain pen.
Great idea Teoh ! I have few Jinhao fountain pens, I like them much. I just found a Jinhao 750 with g nib ✒ for only 6 euros on Aliexpress, including shipment for France ! Note rate 4.8 / 5 for total 88 comments ! I am impatient to get it !
Hi. I managed to get the nib in but ink does not flow smoothly, railroad a lot. What can I do about it? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
+The Gatorboy How long it lasts will depend on how often you are using. The tip will get blunt when it is worn out. You can draw some initial strokes in a sketchbook and compare them after weeks of use.
As a dip pen nib it lasts 2-3 weeks of frequent use. Wash it after use because leaving it in ink speeds rusting. Titanium lasts twice as long but costs three times as much.
Excellent overview. I write and sketch with a variety of FPs, none of which have very flexible nibs. A lot of my formal drawing is done with a crow quill in a holder, and I'm interested in using a flex nib in an inexpensive FP for drawing but I've heard very vocal opinions that the feed in the JinHao pens can be too slow for effective drawing. You touch on this very briefly here but I wonder if you could say in more detail whether the slow feed on the Jinhaos gets to be frustrating (or at least as frustrating as having to dip a nib being used in a holder). An perspectives on this you might offer would be greatly appreciated.
+sdovas Using a Zebra nib like this for drawing is definitely going to be slow because the nib is too sharp and you won't want to damage it or scratch the paper. Also, the drawing techniques for such nib does not allow for fast drawing. The ink flow should be able to keep up because the drawing process is not that fast.
+Teoh Yi Chie I know well the potential for disaster on bristol board with my various crow-quills (Hunt, Gillott, others, some perhaps older than you, even) but I'm glad to get your perspective on this. I can see how the temptation with a FP might be to try to draw faster, but did you find you had trouble tempering your drawing speed with this set-up you describe? thanks...
I still draw at the same speed with the Zebra nib regardless on what it is put on. It's just much more convenient now because you don't have to refill it that often.
+Teoh Yi Chie I wondered about the potential for dubious quality control at the Jinhao factory, and the 450 I just received from across the Pacific embodies Dubious. the thing LOOKS great, glossy black with gold tinted trim, the chevron on the tight clip, and that bitchin' 2-tone nib with the fake gold plate. But get down to working it?Pfffui. The converter leaks, and the line looks like you drew it in wet sand with your big toe. The 250s I gave my young daughters make beautiful lines compared to what comes out of this missile. (it's supposed to be the same nib, I thought) Maybe it's the feed, quality control lacking, because I then tried to swap out the nib for a Zebra G and it took way too long to get it to work at all, along with gushing 3 or 4 converters worth of ink. The nib did NOT seat well with the ZG, despite the testimony of many others to the contrary, and once I got it seated (after a lotta boiling water nib soaking) it flows so weakly that I'm tempted to plunge the damned pen into my eye socket in frustration. For all the time it took to get the new nib correctly seated, and all the ink I lost, and all the scratchy misery of dragging the ZG across the bristol at a snail's pace to keep my line intact, I'd have been better off dipping my Hunt or Gillott crow-quills into India ink. This is not a tool, it is a torture device. And I have no doubt that others have 450s that work fine. And that pisses me off too.
I'm sorry to hear about that. Yeah, China brand pens can have some quality control issues. I've pens that break down after months of use, even without modification.
Nice videos! I've just started watching. I understand that this is a somewhat older video and you may have swapped your pen's setup by now. I've noticed that you're using a plastic feeder rather than an ebonite feeder. You might have less issues with an ebonite feeder.
Hi Teoh! How do you maintain the pen as the nib is going to rust if you leave on the pen without cleaning and drying. I know the steel chrome plated is more vulnerable to water. You must know how to maintain Flex ink dip nibs on fountain pens. Thanks for the answer.
Sir, thank you for the very informative video. May I ask, how long would the Zebra G Nib last? The one I used is the Titanium (gold) g nib, how long would it last and how would one figure that it is time to change the installed g nib?
It's difficult to find modern fountain pens matching the flex of vintage or dip nibs. The one that's good might be the Omas fountain pens with flessible (spelled that way) nibs. But I'm saying that from hearsay as I've not used them before. The next closest would be the spencerian modified Namiki Falcon th-cam.com/video/knNedhhFsCI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much! There were some parts that I never understood when other people were showing this technique of modification. Like how to properly pull out the nerve. In this video, I was still a little unclear on how to put the genie back in after you took out the old Nfb, but I think that part I can probably figure out. And this type of fountain pen is super affordable so if I mess it up there is room for error! Thanks again
Probably not. Anyway, there's no need for such modifications now since there are fountain pens that actually use Zebra G nib. Look for Osprey Pens. BlueDew is another one that has a really sharp nib.
@@teohyc thanks for reply! I would love to try buying them but i live in indonesia, my option is limited 😅.. i just heard this osprey and bluedew, i already know about desiderata pens tho.. they use dip nib as well..
I purchased a fountain pen of Parker brand and then I saw this video, but the tip its very different from the zebra gpen, do you think I can also make the changes with this fountain pen?
The problem is the G nib is curved more tightly than the original nib for the Jinhao pens are really any number six nib pen. In order to slide it in you really have to flatten out the G nib somehow either in a vise or pliers or hammering it against a drill or something to make the curvature less pronounced. There are some other videos that show this flattening process for the jinhao x450 or 750 I have tried it on three Jinhao pens and there's just really no comfortable way to get it in without flattening the nimb a bit which is kind of tricky. I also finally bet bought an Ackerman pen that was designed purely for these nibs. The nib slips in and out much much more easily, however in my Ackerman and it was actually too loose & it tends to fall out, and the ink reservoir is too loose and tends to leak ink. I found ways to deal with these problems but still. Also I think in any of these pens the G nib is going to rust after 2 or 3 weeks of being constantly wet. It's most advisable to take it out of the pen when you're not using it, so that's a bit of a hassle unless you are just using it all the time. But the G nib has no equal as far as incredibly thin hairlines combined with good control over much thicker lines.
I've not tried that. Since I don't use dip pens that often, I'm afraid that it might clog up the pen. I think the main advantage of the Zebra nib on Noodlers is the portability. However, you can get that sort of stroke variation with other flex pens. But of course, the fun is in the modification. LOL.
Teoh Yi Chie It is fun indeed! I can't find any Zebra G nibs to try it though. They only come in packs of 10 but I only need one. Do they wear out that quickly?
theartyone it depends on how agressively you use them, or how much... On averag, a person might have to get a new G in one to three months. They are very very springy, so they are quite resilient.
Hi, any technique to fit a #6 FPR Ultra-Flex + FPR #6 ebonite feed into a Jinhao X750 which also has a #6 nib size. Companies do have different tolerances, with nib & feed stacked together the FPR is larger than the section's hole (where you insert the nib and feed) by 0.92mm? Thank you. God bless.
I don't think there's another nib that can produces lines thinner than the Zebra G. As to whether this is thinner than .005 I cannot say because I don't have that Micron to test.
Lol you should also look into the 159 :D I can't believe you replied 😄. They're all the same nib (I've heard) but I think the 159 might be slightly wetter (I'm not really sure) I don't have it so there's no way for me to test it.
How many user actually tried and succeeded? Unless you modify the nib or the feed , the nib and the feed are unlikely to match properly when inserted into the pen.
I couldn't get the g nib to fit on the jinhao 750. its too tight and ink wouldn't flow. I am now trying to use the g nib on a dip pen using calligraphy ink and liquid acrylics, etc. after little use the ink will not flow smoothly on the nib and I have cleaned the nib with alcohol. the nib seems to be rusty looking. any recommendations? I haven't found anything on TH-cam for using g nib on dip pen with acrylic and shellac based inks. help.
That is exactly why you never ever use pliers on a fountain pen unless you have a pair that is designed for that exact purpose. It's a Jinhao so it does not matter too much but still if you try to modify a different pen always just use your fingers.
+Teoh Yi Chie Thank you Teoh for such a quick reply. I am so new to all this, but I think it would be good training to start drawing with a fountain pen to train myself to get used to it. Thanks again for the video!
I know this is a pretty old video, but since I know you have experience with the Rotring Art Pen, do you think you would be able to do this mod on that pen?
I am thinking use some molding blue stuff/frogz eggz to make a mold of the feeder, then cast the feeder. Cut the nib down at the back with a razer saw to the same length as the stock rotring one polish the cut and then use the cast to shape the nib. A bit of a process but if it works that would be pretty awesome?
+Teoh Yi Chie I finally got it off! I had to crazy friends the grip back together then was able to pull the Nib n feed out with a grip puller I made,that's like goulet pens to remove my nibs safety. thanks!
+artgapelove Maybe I'll do a video. But the general advice is to wash your fountain pens monthly. Just flush them with water will be sufficient. You can also get the Rotring Cleaning Fluid (for technical pens) for cleaning as I find that it can really dissolve ink particles quite well overnight.
+Damon Lobsien The nib will not fit perfectly but it will fit quite close, so it will feel a bit tight when you push the nib in. There's no need to reshape the nib.
I sure end up on your blog and youtube a lot. Thanks for your dedication and enthusiasm. Gonna try to build this frankenpen this weekend. I will try the platinum/carbon ink, and I also have Sailor ink which feels almost the same to me when I use in a FUDE sailor fountain pen. If you have a chance? What is the difference between the 40 degree blue FUDE and the slightly more expensive in a black body 50 degree FUDE pen? Keep up the good work. Hope you had a good INKTOBER.
+Michael Sammler Both of those Sailor Fude pens (plastic body) are not my choice. Their ink flow is not good and I think it's got to do with the tip. If you want to get a cheap Fude pen to try, get the Duke 209.
Teoh Yi Chie I have the Fude blue body cheap one, which has a 40 degree angle. Used it for several months with no issues. Really like it. The black body one has a 50 angle and is about twice as much. still pretty cheap. Not sure how the angle effects drawing though. More tilt for a fatter line or less? Also I just ordered the jinhao x750. it was only ¥350. About $3. Luckily I already have pliers and nibs.
Just like you said. Works great and is SUPER fun to draw with. Took quite a bit of pressure to get it to railroad. The variations are really awesome. Thanks so much.
9:11 does feeder has thinner part in the beginning (length of short nib) and thicker pard to the end? I want to install Nikko G into Hero 1801 and it has thinner and thicker part (original nib is short). I don't know do i have to modify feeder or to cut the Nikko G?
Hi Teoh...Am Malaysian an interested in a flex nib fountain pen...as am a beginner I don't want to spend too much money on such a pen yet..what do you recommend I get and from where
+Michael Spader Thanks for your support. You can check out the past outdoor sketching videos at th-cam.com/play/PLucoL_7WoAgBy5QVG51DaTEaGgzDqz82A.html I don't produce those as frequently because they are rather difficult to produce solo.
Hello~! Do you think this would work on a Twsbi Mini? Do you think the Twsbi mini is a good sketching pen for an artist or someone who is a beginner with fountain pens? Thank you in advance!
+rincake I'm not sure if this will work on a Twsbi Mini. I do have a Twsbi pen and they are good for sketching too. I like that they have a huge ink reservoir inside the pen.
I've tried this on my own x750, but didn't like the small capacity of it. I managed to fit the G nib onto a Twsbi Vac700 after squeezing the body to flatten it slightly so the arc fits the feed. However, when I try to flex the pen, the ink flows in reverse, what could be causing this?
Would a Nikko G nib work with this fp? I'm getting my first JinHao X750 to modify it into a fp with a flex nib so I do calligraphy writing. Also, what ink is better for a fp? Like I'm pretty new to this fp thing.
+artgapelove I'm not sure about the Nikko G nib. If it can fit into a Tachikawa nib holder, it should fit into this pen. Ink is actually not as important as the paper. Ink may feather on lousy paper. But I found that the Platinum Carbon Ink and Sailor KiwaGuro to be excellent for calligraphy work.
Hi Teoh....thanks for your prompt reply as always...am more into writing and calligraphy although would love to try sketching....but am not so artistic...thanks again
Thank you very much for your interest. I don't know why fountain pens are not produced with G nibs. That's what everybody needs and looking for. I will send an email to Jinhao company to demand such fountain pens.
I hardly put Nikko G nib inside of Jinhao 150. I had to grind the feed but the ink flow diminished bec of the modification. But it works anyways. The nib is so scratchy that I am thinking about grinding the tip of the nib too.
+iAmIISupermanII The Jinhao x750 is a size 6 nib, which is a universal size for most, if not all, interchangeable nibs. However, the Jinhao x250 is smaller and has a size 5 nib so no it can not be used in it..
the metropolitan fits a proprietary pilot nib, while the jinhao in this video fits a standard #6 size nib. thankfully jinhao pens are very inexpensive, more so than the metropolitan, if you wanted to try it out
+Robert van Munster You can buy it on Amazon UK at www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=zebra+g+nib&tag=parblo-21 Or buy on eBay and look out for free shipping. The item is very lightweight.
Teoh Yi Chie Wow, I don't know why, but I didn't even consider it when I read your comment. But it's of course a perfectly fine option, so thank you for telling me again. And thank you for this video and all the others, I really like them and find them very informative.
There's one thing I'd like to ask. Most of my sketchbooks bleed when trying to ink with the Gnib, I understand that the quality of the paper is definitely causing it to bleed , but can I have some suggestions of sketchbooks that is slightly cheaper and perform well in inking ? I'm still a student so I couldn't really afford some expensive sketchbook. Especially when my country's currency is dropping badly. Thanks ;3
I suppose. But nowadays there are fountain pens with EF flex nibs that can mimic Zebra nibs. It's just more convenient when you don't have to keep loading ink to the nib. One example is Pilot Namiki with Spencerian modification www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pilot-namiki-falcon-fountain-pen
Do not use carbon ink for fountain pens. Carbon ink has a lot of impurities and is generally schelack based.(I don't know the exact word )If that ink drys out in the pen and youhave to clean it. You have to ise Acetone Whitch is very un beneficial for Plastic AKA the feed
Help! an offer appeared on my FB page recently and I went for it, a fountain pen with a dip nib. The body is Jinhao X450 and it has the Zebra G nib. It came with cartridges, one of which I put in the pen. The problem, the frustrating problem, is that it will not consistently write for me. I just checked the alignment you talked about in this video and it is aligned correctly....so, what oh what can I do to make it work? thanks!!!!
@@Sunny-pr1qw If you really want to use flexible nibs, consider the Ackerman Pens ackermanpens.com/ or Desiderata www.desideratapens.com Research online for reviews first. Alternatively, just use the Zebra nib with a pen holder.
Nowadays there are fountain pens made to take G nibs so such modifications is unnecessary unless to it's to save money. www.parkablogs.com/content/quick-guide-osprey-pens-fountain-pens-nibs-and-nib-holders
I advise against using pliers straight on the nib and feed. Instead, get a bike tube or rubber sheet and use that to grip and pull out directly. Much safer and you'll be less likely to ruin anything. Since the feed was made to fit with the standard steel nib, it isn't made to flow fast enough to keep up with the flex. That's why it's railroading. You'll need to deepen the channels and likely remove any barriers on the converter side of the feed to allow the ink to build up instead of blocking it. Just a few thoughts for all of the folks asking about this combo.
What are the channels and other barriers you are referring to?
Bazyliszek the feed channel (where the ink travel). On some feeds, there are “road blocks” built in to slow the flow of the ink so it doesn’t come gushing out. It’s better regulated. When you add flex, you have to find a balance between getting enough ink when it’s flexed and not flooding the nib when no pressure is applied.
@@ninobrn00 in a way, I am now more inclined to stick to dip pens or maybe a (more expensive) pen designed for flex nibs.
instablaster.
@@g-r-a-e-m-e- Dip pens with a spring and tiny neo magnet affixed to the nib is the way to go! Less fidgeting needed and a breeze ti clean! And very little dipping needed. Fountain pens are pretty....but overhyped and over priced for the big name brands......in my opinion. Others may disagree.
4 years after the video was posted I came across this and ordered my own Jinhao x750. My pen is walking across from China (will take 2 months to get here) but the wait will be worth it.
Check out Amazon I get my pens in one to two days.
@@lunakat5763 yeah I did that originally when first researching these pens - they are twice the price there.
@@fablewalls will the G nib rust?
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 - yes if you leave it for extended periods with ink on after drawing.
Read all the advice on taking the original nib and feed out that you can - it is really easy to ruin the parts if you're not careful.
A small US company called Ackerman makes these sorts of pens (with an overfeed for extra ink supply) but their facebook page is full of people complaining about waiting for their order to be delivered. So I guess this video is right what I needed, cheers.
edit: I just wanted to add that I've heard that the pens they make are really good, but it's no mass production, so the pens sell out and there are waiting times. You can find a couple of videos on youtube made by users, e.g. search for ackerman pump pen.
Thanks bro
most pens from them are also pretty leaky too
excellent demonstration, very helpful to see someone drawing with it
Easy to Dremel out a slight amount of the pen and make this fit properly, if you dedicate one of the cheapie jinhaos to the G-nib.
Wish I knew about this 6 years ago. Is there a way to use crowquill nibs?
Hello. I can’t take oh the Nov and the feed from a Jinhao x450. And it doesn’t wanna start to wright 😢. What should 1 do ?
I know you are not a dip pen fan, however, there are new Zebra G nibs with a spring in the back (for dip pens only) to act as a reservoir and hold more ink. It isn't as much as a Jinhao converter can hold, of course. Just wondered if you had tried one?
I don't know about them. Do you have a link to that?
Yes, this is the only site I have found them so far. www.johnnealbooks.com/prod_detail_list/calligraphy-illumination
I have ordered one, but it has not arrived yet. The reviews I have read from people are favorable.
I did receive it, although haven't tried it yet. I also ordered (at the same time) a Leonardt principal nib with the spring reservoir and I did try that one. It works very well and holds a great deal more ink. I imagine the Zebra G nib will function in much the same way.
@@teohyc I think I saw them on EBAY in addition to John Neal. Maybe less shipping cost but longer delivery time.
I have ledos click aristocrat flex nib fountain pen.. can I use zebra g or Nikko g nib on it?
Does the ink corrode the underside of the nib? if so, does it affect the performance in any way? thanks.
+Tianlovestech It does slightly. Anyway, if you draw often, the tip might wear off faster and you have to change it before that.
You can see in minute 6:50-7:10 or so that the tips on the nib are missunline, how are you not scratching the paper or how can u fix it
For extra fine nibs, you have to either apply very minimal force for drawing thin lines, and when drawing thicker lines you have to pull down in direction.
installation was even easier than in that video. i could push a zebra g chrome nib just in that pen without tools
Excellent tutorial, thanks.
Since Zebra G is a disposable nib, do you always remove the Zebra G nib from the Jihnao pen so to clean it and air dry it so it won't corrode easily?
Is that doable with several brands of nibs? I never tried caligraphy nibs so I have no Idea if they have a "standard" size and any brand will do to attempt this.
+Tiago D'Agostini I'm sure of different brands are of same sizes.
do you have a tip for the Zebra G mounted on a Ginhao 750, but which grip the paper?
I'm not sure of your question. There are online comments on the Jinhao pen not having good ink flow. So I probably would still recommend using the dip pen instead. Or if you have the budget, check out BlueDew fountain pen.
Great idea Teoh ! I have few Jinhao fountain pens, I like them much.
I just found a Jinhao 750 with g nib ✒ for only 6 euros on Aliexpress, including shipment for France ! Note rate 4.8 / 5 for total 88 comments ! I am impatient to get it !
Did you get it?
How is it?
Can you please mention the name of the Ink which you used in the video?
Thanks in advance.
looks like platinum carbon black!
www.jetpens.com/Platinum-Carbon-Ink-Black-60-ml-Bottle/pd/3461
Hi. I managed to get the nib in but ink does not flow smoothly, railroad a lot. What can I do about it? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
+Fibbles G Maybe wash the feed section with soap first. But ink flow is not good on this pen. You have to draw more slowly
How long do the G nibs last? Also, how do you know when it is worn?
+The Gatorboy How long it lasts will depend on how often you are using. The tip will get blunt when it is worn out. You can draw some initial strokes in a sketchbook and compare them after weeks of use.
As a dip pen nib it lasts 2-3 weeks of frequent use. Wash it after use because leaving it in ink speeds rusting. Titanium lasts twice as long but costs three times as much.
Excellent overview. I write and sketch with a variety of FPs, none of which have very flexible nibs. A lot of my formal drawing is done with a crow quill in a holder, and I'm interested in using a flex nib in an inexpensive FP for drawing but I've heard very vocal opinions that the feed in the JinHao pens can be too slow for effective drawing. You touch on this very briefly here but I wonder if you could say in more detail whether the slow feed on the Jinhaos gets to be frustrating (or at least as frustrating as having to dip a nib being used in a holder). An perspectives on this you might offer would be greatly appreciated.
+sdovas Using a Zebra nib like this for drawing is definitely going to be slow because the nib is too sharp and you won't want to damage it or scratch the paper. Also, the drawing techniques for such nib does not allow for fast drawing. The ink flow should be able to keep up because the drawing process is not that fast.
+Teoh Yi Chie
I know well the potential for disaster on bristol board with my various crow-quills (Hunt, Gillott, others, some perhaps older than you, even) but I'm glad to get your perspective on this. I can see how the temptation with a FP might be to try to draw faster, but did you find you had trouble tempering your drawing speed with this set-up you describe?
thanks...
I still draw at the same speed with the Zebra nib regardless on what it is put on. It's just much more convenient now because you don't have to refill it that often.
+Teoh Yi Chie
I wondered about the potential for dubious quality control at the Jinhao factory, and the 450 I just received from across the Pacific embodies Dubious. the thing LOOKS great, glossy black with gold tinted trim, the chevron on the tight clip, and that bitchin' 2-tone nib with the fake gold plate. But get down to working it?Pfffui. The converter leaks, and the line looks like you drew it in wet sand with your big toe. The 250s I gave my young daughters make beautiful lines compared to what comes out of this missile. (it's supposed to be the same nib, I thought)
Maybe it's the feed, quality control lacking, because I then tried to swap out the nib for a Zebra G and it took way too long to get it to work at all, along with gushing 3 or 4 converters worth of ink. The nib did NOT seat well with the ZG, despite the testimony of many others to the contrary, and once I got it seated (after a lotta boiling water nib soaking) it flows so weakly that I'm tempted to plunge the damned pen into my eye socket in frustration. For all the time it took to get the new nib correctly seated, and all the ink I lost, and all the scratchy misery of dragging the ZG across the bristol at a snail's pace to keep my line intact, I'd have been better off dipping my Hunt or Gillott crow-quills into India ink. This is not a tool, it is a torture device. And I have no doubt that others have 450s that work fine. And that pisses me off too.
I'm sorry to hear about that. Yeah, China brand pens can have some quality control issues. I've pens that break down after months of use, even without modification.
Nice videos! I've just started watching.
I understand that this is a somewhat older video and you may have swapped your pen's setup by now.
I've noticed that you're using a plastic feeder rather than an ebonite feeder. You might have less issues with an ebonite feeder.
Hi Teoh! How do you maintain the pen as the nib is going to rust if you leave on the pen without cleaning and drying. I know the steel chrome plated is more vulnerable to water. You must know how to maintain Flex ink dip nibs on fountain pens. Thanks for the answer.
I tried it on a jinhao 82 but I think the zebra nib is too big since the jinhao 82 has a small nib
Do I need use the ZEBRA nib or i can use the tachikawa or nikko too
I'm not sure if other brands will fit
Only works with g nibs? Cant we use other o es? Thx
Sir, thank you for the very informative video. May I ask, how long would
the Zebra G Nib last? The one I used is the Titanium (gold) g nib, how
long would it last and how would one figure that it is time to change
the installed g nib?
could you recommend that which original flex fountain pen can compare to a dip nib?
It's difficult to find modern fountain pens matching the flex of vintage or dip nibs. The one that's good might be the Omas fountain pens with flessible (spelled that way) nibs. But I'm saying that from hearsay as I've not used them before. The next closest would be the spencerian modified Namiki Falcon th-cam.com/video/knNedhhFsCI/w-d-xo.html
Can you make a full flex music nib as on a vintage Waterman eye dropper pen?
Thank you so much! There were some parts that I never understood when other people were showing this technique of modification. Like how to properly pull out the nerve. In this video, I was still a little unclear on how to put the genie back in after you took out the old Nfb, but I think that part I can probably figure out. And this type of fountain pen is super affordable so if I mess it up there is room for error! Thanks again
I just wondering.. zebra g nib on twsbi diamond.. will be fit without any mod?
Probably not. Anyway, there's no need for such modifications now since there are fountain pens that actually use Zebra G nib. Look for Osprey Pens. BlueDew is another one that has a really sharp nib.
@@teohyc thanks for reply! I would love to try buying them but i live in indonesia, my option is limited 😅.. i just heard this osprey and bluedew, i already know about desiderata pens tho.. they use dip nib as well..
I purchased a fountain pen of Parker brand and then I saw this video, but the tip its very different from the zebra gpen, do you think I can also make the changes with this fountain pen?
Not sure about it.
The problem is the G nib is curved more tightly than the original nib for the Jinhao pens are really any number six nib pen. In order to slide it in you really have to flatten out the G nib somehow either in a vise or pliers or hammering it against a drill or something to make the curvature less pronounced. There are some other videos that show this flattening process for the jinhao x450 or 750 I have tried it on three Jinhao pens and there's just really no comfortable way to get it in without flattening the nimb a bit which is kind of tricky. I also finally bet bought an Ackerman pen that was designed purely for these nibs. The nib slips in and out much much more easily, however in my Ackerman and it was actually too loose & it tends to fall out, and the ink reservoir is too loose and tends to leak ink. I found ways to deal with these problems but still. Also I think in any of these pens the G nib is going to rust after 2 or 3 weeks of being constantly wet. It's most advisable to take it out of the pen when you're not using it, so that's a bit of a hassle unless you are just using it all the time. But the G nib has no equal as far as incredibly thin hairlines combined with good control over much thicker lines.
have you tried this with a Noodler's fountain pen? They are flex pens already but maybe the zebra nib is more ideal?
I've Noodlers fountain pens. They are too stiff to be considered flexible. Zebra nib definitely is more flexible and easier to flex.
+Teoh Yi Chie have you tried fitting the zedbra nib onto a Noodler's pen?
I've not tried that. Since I don't use dip pens that often, I'm afraid that it might clog up the pen. I think the main advantage of the Zebra nib on Noodlers is the portability. However, you can get that sort of stroke variation with other flex pens. But of course, the fun is in the modification. LOL.
Teoh Yi Chie
It is fun indeed! I can't find any Zebra G nibs to try it though. They only come in packs of 10 but I only need one. Do they wear out that quickly?
theartyone it depends on how agressively you use them, or how much... On averag, a person might have to get a new G in one to three months. They are very very springy, so they are quite resilient.
Hi, any technique to fit a #6 FPR Ultra-Flex + FPR #6 ebonite feed into a Jinhao X750 which also has a #6 nib size. Companies do have different tolerances, with nib & feed stacked together the FPR is larger than the section's hole (where you insert the nib and feed) by 0.92mm?
Thank you.
God bless.
Very accurately explained . Thank you .
Akermans makes a Manga G nib fountain pen that works well.
Hello, which nib is going to give me the finest line, like the micron .005? Is there one, bcuz I haven’t found it yet. Thank you
I don't think there's another nib that can produces lines thinner than the Zebra G. As to whether this is thinner than .005 I cannot say because I don't have that Micron to test.
why did you go with an x750 instead of an x450 when buying?
I didn't know that x450 existed. lol
Lol you should also look into the 159 :D I can't believe you replied 😄. They're all the same nib (I've heard) but I think the 159 might be slightly wetter (I'm not really sure) I don't have it so there's no way for me to test it.
what inks (brands) do you recommend to be used for this? thank you
+Gary Tan Noodlers Ink.
How many user actually tried and succeeded? Unless you modify the nib or the feed , the nib and the feed are unlikely to match properly when inserted into the pen.
I couldn't get the g nib to fit on the jinhao 750. its too tight and ink wouldn't flow. I am now trying to use the g nib on a dip pen using calligraphy ink and liquid acrylics, etc. after little use the ink will not flow smoothly on the nib and I have cleaned the nib with alcohol. the nib seems to be rusty looking. any recommendations? I haven't found anything on TH-cam for using g nib on dip pen with acrylic and shellac based inks. help.
Love your videos! Thank you!
That is exactly why you never ever use pliers on a fountain pen unless you have a pair that is designed for that exact purpose.
It's a Jinhao so it does not matter too much but still if you try to modify a different pen always just use your fingers.
+Christian S. I won't dare to use pliers on any fountain pen over $20 😂😂
If the nib size on the Jinhao is a med then does the zebra G nib also have to be a medium?
If I'm not wrong, the Zebra nib only has one size. Med on the Jinhao means the tip is medium, not the size of the nib.
+Teoh Yi Chie Thank you Teoh for such a quick reply. I am so new to all this, but I think it would be good training to start drawing with a fountain pen to train myself to get used to it. Thanks again for the video!
I know this is a pretty old video, but since I know you have experience with the Rotring Art Pen, do you think you would be able to do this mod on that pen?
I am thinking use some molding blue stuff/frogz eggz to make a mold of the feeder, then cast the feeder. Cut the nib down at the back with a razer saw to the same length as the stock rotring one polish the cut and then use the cast to shape the nib. A bit of a process but if it works that would be pretty awesome?
I am interested your question, love Artpens, and would be cool if a Zebra fits. Anyone?
just try with my jinhao x750 the zebra g Nib won't come out the whole bottom came out of my pen,? what should I do to get the Nib out
+MC CLG If you have pliers, just some cardboard to product the nib and feed, then clamp it on the side where you can't bend those fins, and pull.
+Teoh Yi Chie I finally got it off! I had to crazy friends the grip back together then was able to pull the Nib n feed out with a grip puller I made,that's like goulet pens to remove my nibs safety. thanks!
Do you think that nib fit with #8 feed?
thank you so much for this guide. It helps a lot!
Would you do a video on how to take care of a fp in the future?
+artgapelove Maybe I'll do a video. But the general advice is to wash your fountain pens monthly. Just flush them with water will be sufficient. You can also get the Rotring Cleaning Fluid (for technical pens) for cleaning as I find that it can really dissolve ink particles quite well overnight.
This is really very handy to modify a fountain pen! Thanks for sharing! But I just want to ask, will the cap still fit after inserting the G nib?
+Americo Neves The cap still fits
thanks a lot!
Hi nice post, A question the Jinhao 599 works with the zebra g nib.
I'm not sure about that.
Jinhao x450 works best with zebra G
did the nib fit naturally into the pen with the feed or did you need to reshape it a little?
+Damon Lobsien The nib will not fit perfectly but it will fit quite close, so it will feel a bit tight when you push the nib in. There's no need to reshape the nib.
can I use the Zebra g nib in Parker sonnet fountain Pen? Please answer me before I do something stupid lol
I'm not sure. The Zebra nib only fits specific size holders
Thanks, your video is very well made, nice idea, I'm ordering the pen, I've got the zebras and ink.
Teoh yi chie do you go to art mark and art friend in singapore brasbasah road already?
+Gerald Keshawn I don't go to Art Mark but I go to ArtFriend frequently.
I sure end up on your blog and youtube a lot. Thanks for your dedication and enthusiasm.
Gonna try to build this frankenpen this weekend. I will try the platinum/carbon ink, and I also have Sailor ink which feels almost the same to me when I use in a FUDE sailor fountain pen.
If you have a chance? What is the difference between the 40 degree blue FUDE and the slightly more expensive in a black body 50 degree FUDE pen?
Keep up the good work. Hope you had a good INKTOBER.
+Michael Sammler Both of those Sailor Fude pens (plastic body) are not my choice. Their ink flow is not good and I think it's got to do with the tip. If you want to get a cheap Fude pen to try, get the Duke 209.
Teoh Yi Chie I have the Fude blue body cheap one, which has a 40 degree angle. Used it for several months with no issues. Really like it. The black body one has a 50 angle and is about twice as much. still pretty cheap. Not sure how the angle effects drawing though. More tilt for a fatter line or less?
Also I just ordered the jinhao x750. it was only ¥350. About $3. Luckily I already have pliers and nibs.
Just like you said. Works great and is SUPER fun to draw with. Took quite a bit of pressure to get it to railroad. The variations are really awesome. Thanks so much.
9:11 does feeder has thinner part in the beginning (length of short nib) and thicker pard to the end? I want to install Nikko G into Hero 1801 and it has thinner and thicker part (original nib is short). I don't know do i have to modify feeder or to cut the Nikko G?
Oh, nice! Do you know if I can fit other dip nibs in it? I have a few Hunt 101s lying around I'd like to try.
+ihy I'm not sure about Hunt 101. If they can fit into the Tachikawa nib holder, I guess they should be able to fit into the X750.
Hi Teoh...Am Malaysian an interested in a flex nib fountain pen...as am a beginner I don't want to spend too much money on such a pen yet..what do you recommend I get and from where
Maybe you can check out Noodlers Ahab. www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-noodlers-ahab-flex-nib-fountain-pen
Hi Teoh....Do you have any experience with the Brause Rose nib?
I’ve not tried that before
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. They are great. Can you do some more outdoor sketching?
+Michael Spader Thanks for your support. You can check out the past outdoor sketching videos at th-cam.com/play/PLucoL_7WoAgBy5QVG51DaTEaGgzDqz82A.html
I don't produce those as frequently because they are rather difficult to produce solo.
Hello~! Do you think this would work on a Twsbi Mini? Do you think the Twsbi mini is a good sketching pen for an artist or someone who is a beginner with fountain pens? Thank you in advance!
+rincake I'm not sure if this will work on a Twsbi Mini. I do have a Twsbi pen and they are good for sketching too. I like that they have a huge ink reservoir inside the pen.
I've tried this on my own x750, but didn't like the small capacity of it. I managed to fit the G nib onto a Twsbi Vac700 after squeezing the body to flatten it slightly so the arc fits the feed. However, when I try to flex the pen, the ink flows in reverse, what could be causing this?
Hmmm. That's weird. Sorry, I'm not sure why that is so.
+Jason Tay I'm not sure but the Twsbi 700 is a vacuum type filler and I'm pretty sure when you push down to flex it is causing the pressure to change.
Would a Nikko G nib work with this fp? I'm getting my first JinHao X750 to modify it into a fp with a flex nib so I do calligraphy writing. Also, what ink is better for a fp? Like I'm pretty new to this fp thing.
+artgapelove I'm not sure about the Nikko G nib. If it can fit into a Tachikawa nib holder, it should fit into this pen. Ink is actually not as important as the paper. Ink may feather on lousy paper. But I found that the Platinum Carbon Ink and Sailor KiwaGuro to be excellent for calligraphy work.
Hi Teoh....thanks for your prompt reply as always...am more into writing and calligraphy although would love to try sketching....but am not so artistic...thanks again
Great video. Thanks. Which Jinhao models are best to fit G nibs?
+Derun Ertugrul Jinhao x750
Thanks. So you don't need any adjustments for the feed? You just insert the nib?
No modification required. But it's going to be a tight fit.
Thank you very much for your interest. I don't know why fountain pens are not produced with G nibs. That's what everybody needs and looking for. I will send an email to Jinhao company to demand such fountain pens.
I hardly put Nikko G nib inside of Jinhao 150. I had to grind the feed but the ink flow diminished bec of the modification. But it works anyways. The nib is so scratchy that I am thinking about grinding the tip of the nib too.
Excellent advices... thank you nyo!
Do you think it will work on a jinhao 250?
+iAmIISupermanII Not sure.
+iAmIISupermanII The Jinhao x750 is a size 6 nib, which is a universal size for most, if not all, interchangeable nibs.
However, the Jinhao x250 is smaller and has a size 5 nib so no it can not be used in it..
Would this work on a cheap pen like a metropolitan?
+bigcat2501 I'm not sure if the grip section from the Metropolitan would fit.
the metropolitan fits a proprietary pilot nib, while the jinhao in this video fits a standard #6 size nib. thankfully jinhao pens are very inexpensive, more so than the metropolitan, if you wanted to try it out
awesome! the pilot feeds are specially designed, so I guess that makes sense. but I'm sure it works well as a dip pen too!
This is really fun, but I was not prepared for the amount of feathering and bleed through. Looks like I'll need to buy better paper.
+SUPERVANS Yeah, don't use paper that are too thin.
Does anyone know where I can get a Zebra G nib in The Netherlands? Or online with pretty low shipping costs to The Netherlands? Thanks in advance.
+Robert van Munster You can buy it on Amazon UK at www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=zebra+g+nib&tag=parblo-21
Or buy on eBay and look out for free shipping. The item is very lightweight.
Teoh Yi Chie Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a creditcard. So I need to find a website where I can pay with PayPal.
+Robert van Munster Try eBay then.
Teoh Yi Chie Wow, I don't know why, but I didn't even consider it when I read your comment. But it's of course a perfectly fine option, so thank you for telling me again. And thank you for this video and all the others, I really like them and find them very informative.
www.penstore.nl/
can you use sumi ink for that?
Sumi ink is grounded from ink sticks. They have heavily pigmented so more likely to clog the pen. I recommend Rotring ink.
I tried a Nikko G nib, and I can't put it in the pen.... Does anybody tried it with succes ??
@JambonJovi only one video seen where someone uses a Nikko nib - you could contact "Double H" on his/her channel and see how the swap was made.
hi teoh, did you get the zebra g nibs in sg? if so, where did you purchase it at.
I bought from Amazon. Maybe you can check out eBay.
hey may i know what country you're from? you sound a tad Singaporean
I'm from Singapore. You have a good ear 😂
@@teohyc haha yeah, i studied at jcu awhile back and my friends had an accent similar to yours
There's one thing I'd like to ask. Most of my sketchbooks bleed when trying to ink with the Gnib, I understand that the quality of the paper is definitely causing it to bleed , but can I have some suggestions of sketchbooks that is slightly cheaper and perform well in inking ? I'm still a student so I couldn't really afford some expensive sketchbook. Especially when my country's currency is dropping badly. Thanks ;3
+Xuan Shao Maybe you can look at the Daler Rowney sketchbooks. I recommend at least 120gsm. www.daler-rowney.com/content/hardback-books
+Xuan Shao water cooler books work well, and if you can get some paper from rhodia that would be great!
Hi there! Where can one buy the Zebra nib in Singapore? ^^
+Henry Chua Hi, sorry I don't know. I bought mine from Amazon USA. Maybe you can ask at ArtFriend, Straits Commercial or Overjoyed.
+Teoh Yi Chie Thanks for your prompt reply. Really appreciate your advice. Happy drawing! ☺
thank you! so useful information to me. i succeed. this new pen is best to me.
+이승효 Thanks
Is this what Manga Illustrators uses?
I suppose. But nowadays there are fountain pens with EF flex nibs that can mimic Zebra nibs. It's just more convenient when you don't have to keep loading ink to the nib.
One example is Pilot Namiki with Spencerian modification
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pilot-namiki-falcon-fountain-pen
@@teohyc Thanks brother
Will this work on Nikko G?
+Yin Kean Chin I have not tried that before.
Are u Singaporean ?
Awesome video!
Oh thanks dude
Do not use carbon ink for fountain pens. Carbon ink has a lot of impurities and is generally schelack based.(I don't know the exact word )If that ink drys out in the pen and youhave to clean it. You have to ise Acetone Whitch is very un beneficial for Plastic AKA the feed
Help! an offer appeared on my FB page recently and I went for it, a fountain pen with a dip nib. The body is Jinhao X450 and it has the Zebra G nib. It came with cartridges, one of which I put in the pen. The problem, the frustrating problem, is that it will not consistently write for me. I just checked the alignment you talked about in this video and it is aligned correctly....so, what oh what can I do to make it work? thanks!!!!
The feed is not made for the nib so ink flow will always be a problem unfortunately
ohhh, bummer. so, could I buy a regular nib for this pen, and safely change it and use like a regular fountain pen? thanks so much for your response.
@@Sunny-pr1qw If you really want to use flexible nibs, consider the Ackerman Pens ackermanpens.com/
or Desiderata www.desideratapens.com
Research online for reviews first.
Alternatively, just use the Zebra nib with a pen holder.
yeah, i've killed two pens making the plier mistake :/
Oops
Praise God 🙌
Ugh I've tried this several times but just can't get it
Thanks.
XD... that destroyed feed... XD
+mrN3w7 Yup. lol
ok. thanks
That feed is very badly damaged, and you don't even need to use pliers! You can just pull them out with your fingers.
I broke my pen ;(
+Ренат Гафаров how'd you break your pen trying to replace a nib
Damon Lobsien it didn't fit
Good grief this is a disaster and a half.
The handwriting is awful horrible
The drawing is more horrible and awful
Worthless