Let's take it RNAV | Can The F28 Fly Like Any Other Airliner? | Real Airline Pilot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
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I flew the F28 for 5 years in the 1980's - we had Omega ( like GPS) which had a display like an FMC in the B737 except for VNAV.
It coupled with the Auto Pilot.
I like flying old aircraft in a modern way. But what would make it even better is if you would have a FMS, Autothrust and maybe a ND- *realises that's a Fokker 100 and Justflight is working on one
hahaha, that Fokker 70/100 is something I'm eagerly awaiting as well ;-)
What's the point then? Do you also want modern avionics on a Spitfire or something?
@@lipslide101You can enjoy an airframe and flight characteristics of an aircraft even if you want modern avionics. Way to gate keep though, who cares if you have a GPS in your spitfire, many of the spitfires today actually have GPS in them as it's easier for transiting airspace, etc.
@@lipslide101 same reason why many people modify their classic cars for the modern age. Not uncommon for owners of 40's or 50's cars to have modern engines with modern ECU systems, brake systems, etc.
@@A330Driver any idea when the fokker 100 will be released? Last update for this was January. I' was eyeing the fokker f28 but a glass cockpit with modern avionics is much more preferred for me.
I'm currently on my first flight from Ayers Rock to Darwin. She is so handsom to fly by hand, roll and pitch modes are smooth, not to fast, not to slow. Ablosutely a top addon.
I heard there was a plane crash near Darwin was that you ?
Thx for the useful video! I did a couple of flights in the F-28 but, having been trained in the 1980's, im enjoying the 'old school"' way of flying immensly tbh😊. Just flight did a stellar job on this aircraft.
Even trained in the moders days I prefer flying this conventionally as well. But as most flight simmers love their RNAV I just couldn't help myself but cover that as well.
Thanks so much for producing this. I find VORs a little difficult and I’ve been wanting to try the RNAV but wasn’t sure how to go further than just inputting the flight plan!
Good video, and welcome to my beautiful sunburnt country! Have just binge watched your tutorials on this plane, and honestly, I think the VOR-VOR navigation setup you demonstrated in the tutorials is much better. I think adding a GPS into this aircraft takes something away from it. Love the Ansett livery! Will definitely be getting that one....when I can afford to buy the plane!!
After revisiting the video I really love how you just squeeze the life out of those engines by just ignoring all high and low pressure limitations and just relying on turbine temperature :D #a330pilotlife :D
That's what the manual said 😂
@@A330Driver Please tell that to the turbines when they visit your PAX in the cabin🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is that modelled though ? There’s no failures modelled
@@saren6538 no, unfortunatly not. But there are strict high- and low pressure limitations. Manual says: HP max 102.5%, LP max 109.5% and that limit has a time limit of max 5 minutes (10 Minutes with single engine operation). In the video he reached the 102.5% HP-Limit with setting climb power. But in climb you use max continious thrust which is max 98.5% high pressure which he exceeds heavily :) I always fly this plane fully loaded up to 29.000ft altitude and for better orientation and to protect the engines 100% LP is my personal maximum while climbing and its enough to maintain about 1000ft per minute climbrate over 27.000ft. So again: No, engine damage is not simulated but as many others I dont play this as a game but as a simulation with real life operations ;)
The speed at which you do the preflight - amazing
Once you operated the plane a bit it really becomes second hand. It's a very intuitive plane to fly.
@@A330Driver it seems a perfect mix of manual and automated flying actually. Underrated in my opinion
fantastic- flew it from KBTR to KSHV using a single VOR- AEX. Got assigned an RNAV approach and had to just guess the landing...
Haha, well, should have refused the RNAV approach and went for another one.
Currently my favourite airliner in the sim. Have only just started using the GPS with it as I find it more fun to fly VORs. Enjoyed this video, some useful tips in it. Thanks.
Thank you for this. I do not mind for radio beacons, but u love gps. I did not know this plane had one. Bravo.
The noise for the size of the engines is considerably loud. Really fun aircraft to fly.
Danke my aviation friend for sharing your knowledge!
The correct name of the rock is Uluru, renamed to be the original name that Indigenous Australians referred to it as.😊
Good grief!
Almost the same Colours as ours on the 1000 series I flew, but I flew from Sydney to Broken Hill - Ularu (Ayres Rock) were we stayed the night (And climbed the rock) before flying back the next day.
All the Australian Aircraft had Omega Navigation systems situated in the blank spot on the Pedistal (worked like GPS but closer to FMC) a coupled to the Auto Pilot.
BTW On two occasions heading in to Ularu (First time in a DC3) & then in the F28 I flew through Spider Webs at 3,000 ft (Not kidding!)
Uluru is the correct name it was named after the explorer Sir John Edward Eyre but was changed back in the eighties.
Just pronounced 'Airs' Rock ;)
Fun fact, but the flying school I went to flies the current iteration of VH-EWF, a 2014 C172
What a coincidence! And a "brand new" Cessna as well!
Thanks for all your vids, flying the f28 a lot but rnav is imo not really an option even though it can track the approach laterally without a GS it's really tricky to simply follow the charts descent's profile especially in bad weather where the runway is not in sight meaning you have to be spot on, I can't imagine they would be risking this IRL, not a pilot so it's admittedly conjecture on my part. Becoming more and more of a pain as well as a lot of runways have GPS approaches only. I wish Navigraph had a historical navdata option which would be great for these older birds.
Nice video again.. Wish Just flight could put a Garmin 1000 in it especially since it has a great Navigraph add on. I know its a period plane but I think a lot of people would buy it as some are put off with VORs
You make it look easy, maybe it is :)
Wonderful explanations.
Could you tell me how u managed to get that garmin on the fokker 28?
Hi, you can select it in the options in the tablet.
What keybinding can be used for pitch ?
Hi Emmanuel would really love to fly this plane however with each attempt I try it appears my bravo controller is not set up correctly for this aircraft I have searched high and low for a guide on how to setup for this aircraft but to no avail would you be so kind as to do a short vid on a setup please ? :)
You can’t keep a good Fokker down.
I wonder if the GTN750 would couple with the glideslope indicators on an RNAV approach with this plane. I also wonder if you could use the GLIDE mode on the autopilot as well.
Was thinking the same about pressing the glide button.
@@delg551 my first test of the 750 was a dismal failure. It refuses to play nicely with the F28. The GNS just keeps re-asserting itself and you end up with homicidal autopilot
53:08 what is the blue lever that you lift for?
Gustlock
Were these coming with GPS ?
Also how do you find enough VOR waypoints ? I only find airports ones.
Why is the AP transition so smooth in your version??? When I switch AP on during climb, it instantly starts to pitch the plane down heavily followed by a decent pitch up to a normal flight state. This is a little bit annoying but maybe Im doing something wrong?
Maybe you take off with wrong pitch. On the EFB load Page, where you set your tankering and Pax, on the downright the CG is displayed, if you click there, the correct trimm is set.
@@peterspatz6918 Thank you for the help but thats exaclty what I do everytime the checklist says that to me :P
@@peterspatz6918 btw it was indeed an issue which is fixed in the current version :D
I think a GTN 650 or 750 would be great too
I'm using the PMS50 GTN750 sim panel to load SimBrief flight plans. Works fairly well.
I do that with the DC-6.
When will this be available?
Thanks .. just got wish msfs had more plane movement even with fs realistic .. in real life take off and landing in the f28 is mayhem … shaking and plane rattling away .. msfs is just ok static
How on real life do you transition from your last vor to say the ils?
When you fly personally and not necessarily for your videos, do you use AI traffic? I find it's a pain with the taxi conflict, subpar ATC continue and unrealistic constant TCAS warnings even if following ATC.
I've went with static traffic maybe for airport immersion and that's it. How about you?
I know you have a lot of subscribers and stuff but I'd be really grateful if you took the time to answer, thank you.
Hi, for my "personal" flights I fly online on vatsim where I have other players of the network around me. Of course that amount of traffic does by far not get close enough to real life, however it is still mich better in quality than any AI traffic for exactly the reasons you mention.
I rather have no traffic than stupid traffic.
is it just me or the yokes seems too low compared to the real thing, on real cockpit videos and pictures it looks like the yoke is much bigger and higher than on the justsim one, maybe its just me aha (also on the manual it says mct on n2 is 98.5 % of n2 so why are you climbing on TGT?, and how do you do flex takeoff? couldnt find how to do it on the manual)
Those are some aggressive sparks sounds and flashes when the Ground and/or generators trip in for bing in the cockpit ?
Thanks Emmanuel! This looks like PMDG quality level?
It surely is. Of course the F28 is a much simpler plane than a 737 or 777, but it definitely is simulated to a very high level. Sounds are probably even better than the 737s.
GPS is boring but I’ll watch your tutorial anyway, always good to know…information might become handy one day :)